Boxing suspension duration?

[blaster010]

So stupid me got greedy and box a PL instead of doing what most people do and just have a mule in EC tunnel for selling. Long story short i got busted and the account is suspended. My question is to any one who has been or know of how long the duration is and or if it's permanent ban?

[Llandris]

1st offense is 30 days with IP exemptions removed from the account(s). 2nd is a permanent ban.

[Ele]

so instead of boxing, you regret not boxing?

[blaster010]

Now that my account is flagged I will not get a chance to box ever again. Account association and interaction is going to be risky. Suck cause my favorite part about boxing was the easy transfer of loot. Wish they made a BOT in EC that will transfer item to same IP address.

[paulgiamatti]

Incoming deluge of Not Classic gifs.

[Vicatin]

You're acting like boxing an EC mule is allowable or otherwise a non-issue to downplay your infraction...

Dont box kids, not even once.

[Malk]

Dont box kids, not even once.

Yeah, better slap them. Doesn't leave as much bruises.










:D

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Use plastic totes instead.

[Lunababy]

not even once

[blaster010]

I'm in no way down playing it. Just stating what i miss the most now that it's gone. Trying to think positive here and say i started playing again after almost a year ago. Before i stop playing i invested in 3 circlet of shadow at 3k a pop. It the smartest investment i ever did. I'm thinking i will hold onto them till the end of time where it's 100kpp.

[skarlorn]

Thank God this villain got suspended.

[maskedmelon]

Silver lining ^^

[xKoopa]

Cos never goin over 10k pal

Sorry

Might wanna buy up some beads or something maybe

[Spyder73]

I would fight the staff via duel - Once Braknar challenged me and this was the result

[supermonk]

lucky account is not permabanned on first offense, my friend. with boxing, sooner or later, you will get caught

[Braknar]

I would fight the staff via duel - Once Braknar challenged me and this was the result

You really captured the essence of that epic battle.

[azeth]

I appreciate the OP's candor.

[GreldorEQ]

shared bank slots would solve a lot of problems around here....

[Braknar]

shared bank slots would solve a lot of problems around here....

Perhaps, but as many will say "not classic".

I played on P99 a long time before I became staff, and I transferred a lot of high value items around. I never had any problems finding someone to help me out.

Good rule of thumb is to choose some high level in a major raiding guild. If they scam you, often you can go to their guild leadership and get things set right. Don't ever use a rando level 1 guy, even if he's moved a lot of items for you in the past, unless you know them really well. Lots of folks scam people that way. They build trust, then when you give them a lot of high value items, they just keep em.

[nyclin]

Perhaps, but as many will say "not classic".

It's about as classic as implementing a 25 target limit on PBAE spells to solve a CSR issue.

[xKoopa]

It's about as classic as implementing a 25 target limit on PBAE spells to solve a CSR issue.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=29267&dateline=1472850056

[Braknar]

It's about as classic as implementing a 25 target limit on PBAE spells to solve a CSR issue.

I sense some salt.

[Vandil]

Perhaps a system could be implemented where someone could pay to have a second account per IP address. The price would have to be significant to avoid a flood of requests, perhaps one-time Paypal donation of $200. Adding a third account per IP would cost an additional $400. And just keep scaling it as double the previous tier. This controls the number of people willing to multibox their own raid.

Considering that the majority of people that play here are playing due to nostalgia, that means we all likely have jobs, and can decide if $200 (etc.) is worth it or not.

Obviously, that kind of money would significantly help Project 1999 with server hardware/software/hosting costs, etc.

[GreldorEQ]

I sense some salt.


It's not so much salt in my opinion as a clear example of how we are not actually classic. The PBAE change was implemented to solve a problem, a problem that arguably will not affect the "classic experience" of 99.9% of the player base. A shared bank slot would be a change done in the same spirit as the PBAE change.

[kotton05]

Don't even /q and log in another toon without waiting, two guildies got popped with that recently. You should camp.

[skarlorn]

Pick pocketing is also not classic here. Probably because none of the lead devs GM played rogue. They do not respect.

[Braknar]

It's not so much salt in my opinion as a clear example of how we are not actually classic. The PBAE change was implemented to solve a problem, a problem that arguably will not affect the "classic experience" of 99.9% of the player base. A shared bank slot would be a change done in the same spirit as the PBAE change.

Oh, with him it's salt I'm sure.

Show me an example of someone, in 1999-2003 era, that was able to pull the crap we saw in chardok or bard swarms and I might agree with you.

No, the hard limit was not in classic, but the result is decidedly more classic than without. Back in those days, no one could have swarms of 100+. Due to PC/server performance, network bandwidth, etc.

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

[GreldorEQ]

You're right - but I still want shared banks : )

[Boptop]

Oh, with him it's salt I'm sure.

Show me an example of someone, in 1999-2003 era, that was able to pull the crap we saw in chardok or bard swarms and I might agree with you.

No, the hard limit was not in classic, but the result is decidedly more classic than without. Back in those days, no one could have swarms of 100+. Due to PC/server performance, network bandwidth, etc.

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

I used to see AE groups in Sebilis on Veeshan server where the cleric (often famed CT cleric Teurde Ferguson) would DA pull from the zone out straight through to the back end of disco 2. Massive AE pulls did happen in the day.

[Malk]

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

That would have been fun - but probably much longer to code.

Current compromise addresses most of the issue without randomly deathtouching people with more than 25 mobs in their trail :cool:

[Izmael]

I don't think Chardok or Seb AE happened much if at all before Luclin on live. If it did it was probably marginal at best.

Expansions rolled out quickly back then and people might think there were AE'ing 'dok in Velious or earlier while actually it was Luclin or even PoP already.

[thufir]

Oh, with him it's salt I'm sure.

Show me an example of someone, in 1999-2003 era, that was able to pull the crap we saw in chardok or bard swarms and I might agree with you.

No, the hard limit was not in classic, but the result is decidedly more classic than without. Back in those days, no one could have swarms of 100+. Due to PC/server performance, network bandwidth, etc.

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

Not even just this. People say it could happen in classic, and maybe it did at isolated periods. I personally remember aoeing most of Lower Guk a couple of times. Probably was more than 25 mobs.

Reliably enough to establish a cartel extracting cash for proxy pulls in Chardok? Nope.

People have been able to come up with all sorts of "yaaaas it could" stories, but it's clear that even if it could happen at isolated times in this era given the proper combination of machine and circumstance, it couldn't happen regularly.

The "artificial lag" solution is probably "most classic", with some rng attached to determine the current value of "Classic ISP X" applied as a variable to the size of the pull, but if you're really at that point you're picking some pretty tiny nits.

[Daldaen]

Oh, with him it's salt I'm sure.

Show me an example of someone, in 1999-2003 era, that was able to pull the crap we saw in chardok or bard swarms and I might agree with you.

No, the hard limit was not in classic, but the result is decidedly more classic than without. Back in those days, no one could have swarms of 100+. Due to PC/server performance, network bandwidth, etc.

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

Something I long argued for during Kunark was implementing an anti-Zerg mechanic for P99. For mobs whose hate list exceeds 30, have the mob arbitrarily choose 1 player and mez them for 5 minutes to simulate an LD player. When you're in the 40+ entity realm have the boss "LD" 3-4 random people. When you're rolling deep with 60+ nerds on some Kunark content, "LD" 6-10 random people.

Man it would increase my immersion to all of a sudden lose my groups healer because of an "LD". Having a wipe due to 3-4 clerics all going LD simultaneously is such a classic experience that doesn't really happen here sadly.

[Sorn]

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

Please don't, I already lag when I hit 20+ mobs...

[Kutsumo]

Needing help with transfers is definitely classic. As are EC scams of all kinds. I'm sad they had to stop the casinos.

[musashi1612]

Just throwing my 2 cents in on a subject that has already been derailed haha, 1 AE kiting was a thing bards used to do it for Fear to clear the zone now how many they could handle is up for debate. 2 Finding a video of such footage from 16 years ago pretty rough considering youtube didn't exist. 3 What i really would like to know is this, When did bard charm kiting become a thing? On P99 bard charm kiting has never worked due to the mobs not agroing the charmed mob, Could this ever be fixed so that Charm kiting would be a thing again?

Ps Op you are possibly the first person on this server i have seen straight up admit to you're crime and just ask a legit question of how long will i be punished you get a semi kudo's from me.

[lonmoer]

There was never a 'cartel' in Chardok. If you showed up early enough you would be the person who ran Chardok for the day.

[Evia]

It's not so much salt in my opinion as a clear example of how we are not actually classic. The PBAE change was implemented to solve a problem, a problem that arguably will not affect the "classic experience" of 99.9% of the player base. A shared bank slot would be a change done in the same spirit as the PBAE change.

good point

[Victorio]

50% of "LDs" during velious were people pulling the plug when their dad woke up

[Ivory]

Burn the boxer! BURN HIM!

[heartbrand]

1st offense is 30 days with IP exemptions removed from the account(s). 2nd is a permanent ban.

this must be a Blue only rule

[Necabo]

A more classic solution probably would have been to start artificially lagging people when they hit more than 25 mobs.

^^ This.

[Spyder73]

50% of "LDs" during velious were people pulling the plug when their dad woke up

So close to home its not funny

[Jimjam]

So close to home its not funny

My dad came down in the night and pulled the power cord on the pc when I was doing my shaman's epic mob. dang.

[clacbec]

another solution with pbAOE would be to cap xp on big pulls, like you get xp for the first 25 mobs, no more

[Kiwix]

I played on P99 a long time before I became staff, and I transferred a lot of high value items around. I never had any problems finding someone to help me out.

Just as a side note form the other side of the table; I would and will never help you or any other transfer any high value items. I know people who has been banned becasue they did random transfers like these for whoever who got banned for whatever (well deserved). This had a cause of ripple effect though as the helpers who transfered what ever this way got assosiated with this and got banned as well.

To save yourself going through petition becasue you might be caught in what ever I recommend do not transfer items for others. Just 1 day of an undeserved ban is nerve wrecking.

[maskedmelon]

Just as a side note form the other side of the table; I would and will never help you or any other transfer any high value items. I know people who has been banned becasue they did random transfers like these for whoever who got banned for whatever (well deserved). This had a cause of ripple effect though as the helpers who transfered what ever this way got assosiated with this and got banned as well.

To save yourself going through petition becasue you might be caught in what ever I recommend do not transfer items for others. Just 1 day of an undeserved ban is nerve wrecking.

There are plenty who still do ^^ I do and I never have trouble finding peeps to help me. Shouldn't let it dampen your enjoyment of the game ^^

[Spyder73]

Just as a side note form the other side of the table; I would and will never help you or any other transfer any high value items. I know people who has been banned becasue they did random transfers like these for whoever who got banned for whatever (well deserved). This had a cause of ripple effect though as the helpers who transfered what ever this way got assosiated with this and got banned as well.

To save yourself going through petition becasue you might be caught in what ever I recommend do not transfer items for others. Just 1 day of an undeserved ban is nerve wrecking.

I have transferred literally millions of plat of items over the years for my Aftermath/Asgard friends and have never been flagged or questioned even once

[syztem]

if salaryman can steal an AoN and other high value items after chumming it up to a new guild/guildmates for a month. then get banned for 3-4 months and items restored to owner, i think thats pretty safe to say #win. though a perma ban wouldve been better when it was a straight clear cut "yeah i took ur shit, u handed it to me, deal with it"

[Braknar]

I have transferred literally millions of plat of items over the years for my Aftermath/Asgard friends and have never been flagged or questioned even once

Orly?

[Thulack]

Just as a side note form the other side of the table; I would and will never help you or any other transfer any high value items. I know people who has been banned becasue they did random transfers like these for whoever who got banned for whatever (well deserved). This had a cause of ripple effect though as the helpers who transfered what ever this way got assosiated with this and got banned as well.

To save yourself going through petition becasue you might be caught in what ever I recommend do not transfer items for others. Just 1 day of an undeserved ban is nerve wrecking.

If you are not guilty of anything and you have your logs on its a very easy process to get unbanned. Transferred tons over the years for anyone and everyone including people who were caught RMTing like Culprit and never had a issue. I did have a toon banned because he was previously owned by a RMTer and i bought him for plat when it was legal. I had the logs that i sent to staff and was unbanned within 6 hours.

[heartbrand]

I spent $180 on WoW tokens last night and quickly converted it to gold. Love playing for profit video games.

[Vandil]

I spent $180 of real world money on fake video game currency.

Fixed that for you. To each their own.

[fadetree]

All currency is fake. That's the point, it's an abstract representation of value. Value is partially, if not mostly, subjective, and if he values what he gets for 'fake currency' then it's just as legit as paying 100$ for a round of golf. Although I think the writer was actually being sarcastic.

[maskedmelon]

All currency is fake. That's the point, it's an abstract representation of value. Value is partially, if not mostly, subjective, and if he values what he gets for 'fake currency' then it's just as legit as paying 100$ for a round of golf. Although I think the writer was actually being sarcastic.

Mhmm and what he has essentially done is said he would prefer to allocate the fruits of several hours of his labor to create a more enjoyable game experience for himself at his leisure. Buying game items is no different than going to a movie or going out to dinner rather than staying at home. The difference is, the game item is more likely to directly generate additional experiences down the road.

[myriverse]

Mhmm and what he has essentially done is said he would prefer to allocate the fruits of several hours of his labor to create a more enjoyable game experience for himself at his leisure. Buying game items is no different than going to a movie or going out to dinner rather than staying at home. The difference is, the game item is more likely to directly generate additional experiences down the road.
Or he could have used that $180 real money to buy real items that are more likely to directly generate additional and more varied experiences.

[maskedmelon]

Or he could have used that $180 real money to buy real items that are more likely to directly generate additional and more varied experiences.

Entirely untrue if he spends most of his time in game.

[georgie]

I spent over 300 dollars on league of legend skins, was a good run. Just got boring and repetitive, that and they are always changing heroes.

[Dixao]

All currency is fake. That's the point, it's an abstract representation of value. Value is partially, if not mostly, subjective, and if he values what he gets for 'fake currency' then it's just as legit as paying 100$ for a round of golf. Although I think the writer was actually being sarcastic.

Currency is the equivalence of time. Time is not fake. Time is real.
Ever heard the saying time is money? It is true. The more money, the better hospital surgeries you can afford, the longer you live.

[Vandil]

Entirely untrue if he spends most of his time in game.

They call this game EverCrack for a reason. WOW is even worse.

$180 buys food/resources/savings in meatspace or it can buy better crack.

[Thulack]

Everyone spends their money differently. I look at someone buying a 30k+ dollar car and call it a waste. Others look at me who spends money on weed and video games and calls it a waste. To each their own.

[maskedmelon]

Everyone spends their money differently. I look at someone buying a 30k+ dollar car and call it a waste. Others look at me who spends money on weed and video games and calls it a waste. To each their own.

Yes! I have a hard time choosing what to spend my money on and generally end up too exhausted to by more things once I decide on one. Then someone comes along and is all like are you suuuure? FACK! Take me like a week to recover from that and formulate another (usually same -.-) decision. kinda tangent I guess, but my point is, if you spending money on something you enjoy, don't matter if it virtual or analog. Reminds me of people who insist online interactions/relationships aren't real. Guess what? We all be living in the machine eventually v(~ 。^)

[supermonk]

I spent over 300 dollars on league of legend skins, was a good run. Just got boring and repetitive, that and they are always changing heroes.

CS:GO skins are the next level. most value i put on a single bet was $5K and lost lol.