bliz tells players to l2p

[lethstang]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2053469

i thought alot of u would get a kick out of this. its blizzard telling ppl to lrn2play. the real hidden gems are the comments after the article. I LOLed at many points and srsly couldnt figure out if some of them were supposed to be in humor or not.

enjoy!

[JayDee]

wut

[Goobles]

This is awesome.

[xshayla701]

tabbed back to p99 forums after reading it and now there's stripes on the screen

[Goobles]

tabbed back to p99 forums after reading it and now there's stripes on the screen

Time for a new video card.

[xshayla701]

Time for a new video card.

WTB new laptop :(

[Winobot]

Its their own fault. WotLK was far too easy save some of the heroic raids. Now they're trying to reintroduce difficulty back into heroics and raids and the windowlickers are going berserk.

[Walabaego]

Excellent lols for the morning. :)

[Scrooge]

Just means it's overheating.

[Cyrano]

Kind of makes me want to play.

[Ihealyou]

I never made it to max level or raided in WoW, but I always thought that combat was more stressful than in EQ. Everything goes so fast in WoW, I feel like I barely have time to think.

[Chanus]

NO THINK

MASH BUTTON

[Crone]

I quit about a month before Cata. I told myself that I didn't want to deal with the new expansion rush of crowded servers, crazy whack economy, and all that. Just wasn't what I wanted to do. Came back to P99 instead.

However, I never thought things were that difficult to figure out, but it's sad to see that Blizzard has to make a statement like that because so many players are just that bad. As already said though, they put themselves into this situation with WotLK being so stupidly easy. No skill at all was required.

[Cars]

I hate blizzard in so many ways and on so many levels that I cant even formulate the proper wording to express what a bane they have become to the Genre and the video game industry in general. Fuck you Blizzard.

[boboo]

A sample comment:

"I am saddened to see Blizzard bowing to the minority of Hardcore "gamers" out there and forgetting about the casual gamer. I hate to break all these hardcore bubbles but the majority of players are casual players. I for one am a good player but due to family and school i do not have the time to play WoW like the rest of these 'hardcore' players do. it would be nice to play WoW all day because we have no lives and responsibilities but we casual players unfortunatly do not have that option. I have seen time and again players booted from heroics because they meet the minimum requirements and the rest of the LFG group kicks them cause the casual gamer isn't doing the DPS the "hardcore" people expect. So LFG is useless to these players and they quit enjoying the game and leave. I call on every "casual player" to not renew your subscriptions and let Blizzard and these "hardcore" players see how valuable we are. When these so called "hardcore" players are waiting in a que for over an hour..wee will see their toon change. Hopefully this will send a message to Blizzard as well to make this game balanced for everyone! Not just for the minority of "hardcore" fanboys who have no life. If Blizzard doesn't change then we do have options. Rift releases march 1rst and Old Republic this spring. So lets get together all you casual members and make our voices heard by not renewing our subscriptions. We are basically buying stock in Blizzard and we need to flex our power."


lolololol Blizz make the heroic dungeons easy for casuals or I quit, not only that i will encourage other players to quit because we cant just stomp the keyboard and win anymore :(

[guineapig]

That is some good lols. I'm glad I didn't invest more than a few months in to that game.

[lethstang]

i just really dont understand the conflict. the majority of wow caters to casuals. thats why its such a wild success. why are people griping because theyve put some stuff in for the ppl who play wild hours a week is beyond me. its probably a generation gap thing.

[Chanus]

I love how it's oppression against "casual" players whenever there's 5% of content unavailable to them because they don't want to put in the effort required to experience it.

Whereas removing any content that challenges "hardcore" players is the only equitable way to proceed.

[Crone]

I hate blizzard in so many ways and on so many levels that I cant even formulate the proper wording to express what a bane they have become to the Genre and the video game industry in general. Fuck you Blizzard.

They've built their own bed, and are now dealing with it. I have great respect for the developers, after having met most of them at Blizzcon, however, your same rage towards them, I have towards their retarded player base.

It reminds me of bad drivers. I so wish, somehow, I was able to reach from my car to theirs, to explain how stupid they are being.

Alas, there isn't a way for that to happen.

But come on, the above quote from a comment. How can they be so stupid to believe that casual = skill? Because someone has to play all day, and have no life, in order to have any skill? So retarded.

[boboo]

I love how it's oppression against "casual" players whenever there's 5% of content unavailable to them because they don't want to put in the effort required to experience it.

Whereas removing any content that challenges "hardcore" players is the only equitable way to proceed.

Funny how it works heh? In the month preceding the Warhammer launch you had legions of players not content with having 95% of the servers where pvp was restricted to specific areas in a zone, they went on a crusade to try to stop the players who were trying to have one server where you can pvp everywhere. Oh the irony of these "carebears" trying to piss in other people's cheerios.

It was really something to see these people call people like me "griefers" when in actuality they were the ones trying to grief FFA players outside the game and actively trying to stop these players from getting their server, although they would never set foot themselves on that server.

[Chanus]

It's not skill, it's time.

And there's no reason not to cater a portion of the content to those who put in the most amount of time. Everyone pays the same subscription, but a "casual" player is less likely to quit paying because they've run out of things to do.

[Chanus]

Funny how it works heh? In the month preceding the Warhammer launch you had legions of players not content with having 95% of the servers where pvp was restricted to specific areas in a zone, they went on a crusade to try to stop the players who were trying to have one server where you can pvp everywhere. Oh the irony of these "carebears" trying to piss in other people's cheerios.

It was really something to see these people call people like me "griefers" when in actuality they were the ones trying to grief FFA players outside the game and actively trying to stop these players from getting their server, although they would never set foot themselves on that server.

Yeah, PvP is the same way.

I personally am not a fan, but other people love it. What right do I have to demand PvP not be available to them? What's the harm in people who enjoy PvP having their own server where they can enjoy and not have to worry about interference between them and people who don't?

[Crone]

It's not skill, it's time.

And there's no reason not to cater a portion of the content to those who put in the most amount of time. Everyone pays the same subscription, but a "casual" player is less likely to quit paying because they've run out of things to do.

I agree. I was making the point of how retarded it was to think that time = skill, when it's not at all the case.

[citizen1080]

I agree. I was making the point of how retarded it was to think that time = skill, when it's not at all the case.

How dare you imply that Poopsocking does not take skill! Not just anyone can stare at a empty spawn point for hours on end sir!

[Crone]

How dare you imply that Poopsocking does not take skill! Not just anyone can stare at a empty spawn point for hours on end sir!

Ahh, my good friend. I am merely implying that while poopsocking may take skill, skill may not take poopsocking...

:cool:

[Shannacore]

http://i54.tinypic.com/5yampu.jpg



I JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN

[Chanus]

Just like that Cindi Lauper song!

Time After Time!


No, wait...

[lethstang]

guys i simply cannot stop reading the comments under the article and laughing. this is what the genre has come to and this is why we hide out here in p99.

"heroics should be doable by pugs in 30 minutes"

seriously i just cant discern if this is intended as humor or is there really a playerbase that feels this way.

lolz

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

haha!

[john_savage1982]

All the while the hardcores on P1999 sit in east commonlands thinking the casuals respect them for their poopsocked.....or SKILL... *cough* *cough* gear. At least WoW is trying to make difficult encounters and rewarding all those with the ability to win - not the ability to sit for long hours.

[SirAlvarex]

Although I haven't played WoW/Cataclysm, I played EQ2 through the Shadow Odyssey expansion pack. Shadow Odyssey did the same thing to EQ2, give new dungeons that could *not* just be tanked & spanked out of the gate, therefore catering to the hardcore crowd.

After awhile, lots of the casual players left the less populated servers. But, on some servers, the population was more than adequate.

Then with the latest expansion, EQ2 went back to the Casual play, with each dungeon being pretty much doable with quested gear. The game is pretty much dead now.

My point? Going from a casual -> hardcore is fine. As is, but less so, going hardcore -> casual. However, going casual -> hardcore -> casual -> who the fuck knows will kill the player base and eventually the game..

[Valakut]

when i used to play wow sometime ago we had a saying "madcuzbad" pretty much summarizes that whole bnet blog post

to the one who posted above me i really liked eq2 at launch it required you to quest to become something from nothing other than a good/evil race which was fairly easy you just picked mage/fighter/priest/scout and then you leveld a bit to get a feel for it but then you had to get your citizenship to freeport/qeynos or else you were stuck at like level 6. once you got citizenship you could only level to 9 until you talked to your subclass trainer and if you didnt you would cap at 9. it was merely a quest to get you to talk to the different trainers and get some info. once you did that you could not level past 19 without talking to your final class trainer. this was great imo because it required you to get familiar with the starting area and your class before you started your way to max level. basically if you rolled heals but wanted to do cleric instead of druid or even shaman and changed your mind at 9 you were still okay you didnt have to reroll that first 9 levels. then you get to 19 you have half the mystic spells and half the defiler spells(shaman) or you had half the templar spells and half the inquisitor spells (cleric) or half the fury spells and half the warden spells (druid). so if you hit 19 and thought i like this version of this healer better you could confirm and ding 20 and become that healer. sad to say they removed this from the game shortly after to the point where you just picked your class when you rolled your toon at the character screen and if you got to 20 and realized you didnt like that class you would have to reroll and level back to 20 just because the original method was too hard for some noobs.

another thing that was cool about eq2 at first was the first time you traveled/used the mariner bell your whole group had to be at the docks near the bell. next, rather than say just zoning from thundering steps to lavastorm you had to go on a instanced "boat ride" where you would actually fight monsters in a ring event and you had to survive waves or else you wouldnt get to lavastorm. then after the first time you did it you didn't have to do it again you were just character flagged for clicking the mariner bell and zoning into lava or w/e. even if you were 4/5 of the group flagged you still had to do it for the guy who wasnt flagged. this was cool though because it added to the game and was a challenge. this feature was removed quickly also due to difficulty complaints by people who didn't do all the quests and were undergeared trying to move on or underskilled.

these 2 examples among other things just show eq2 track record with having a decent system in place but they remove it to cater to people who can't read quests or npc text and are not good at playing their class.

i think what it comes down to is that saying fish for a man and he eats for a day but teach a man to fish and he will eat for life. due to profit motives the devs never wanna teach the man to fish

[Chanus]

Build a man a fire and he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life.

[Prince]

blizzard is pretty much the cisco of the gaming world

[Prince]

aka old + irrelevant

[JayDee]

you better clarify your posts *****

[Feachie]

aka old + irrelevant

just like this thread?

[Prince]

racism ban

[Bardalicious]

racism ban

thank u o great thread necro


but srsly I didn't catch this the first time around. some lulz were had on this day

[Prince]

im here 2 help