High level toons farming for plat in lower level xp area

[macleod76]

I know there are zones with guards that high level toons like to farm for plat. Sometimes they are farming NPC's that are 20 levels below their level. My question is, should a player be able to farm those mobs that give them no or very very very little xp, when a lower level player could be farming for both at the same time?

[fan D]

you don't own norrath kid kick rocks

[RDawg816]

Should they? No. Should you expect them to leave? No.
Ideally they'd let you have some mobs or let you exp and you would trade buffs for some loot..... but this is not the normal scenario. Normally it's a fcfs and you can kick rocks. :)

[ZiggyTheMuss]

This is how EQ has always been. It's unfortunate when a high level is depriving low levels of exp and loot. More courteous players will recognize this and perhaps buff you and leave the mobs alone, but those are a dying breed.

[Kowalski]

That's why we make alts chump

[entruil]

most people are cool and will talk to you about it, they might not always do what you expect of them. most of the time there is just no communication when a problem is percieved.

[maskedmelon]

Overall, the lower level people shouldn't be there because the higher level person can operate much more efficiently, so the net benefit to Norrath is greater.

[Baler]

My question is, should a player be able to farm those mobs that give them no or very very very little xp, when a lower level player could be farming for both at the same time?
Why wouldn't they be able to? Disallowing players to kill low level mobs over low level players killing them would not be classic. So long as everyone is following the rules.

Shit's Classic.

There is a zone called The Warrens you may like.
I understand where you are coming from I really do but you have to understand as well.

[Daywolf]

How do you know they were farming for plat and not quest items or junk for crafting? Plats are no good on low level mobs, but for certain drop items thats just part of the game. This aint wow, ya know?

[jolanar]

Am I having dejavu or was this not a thread like a week ago?

[elwing]

not exactly the same, it was almost specifically aimed at AC camp...

[macleod76]

I was talking more about zones like Paineel Gaurds. People in there 50's killing toons in their 30's. I fully understand if you are farming something for quest. But just killing for plat and nothing else, when players could be killing for exp and plat. Their are other zones to farm for plat that are of appropriate level to them.

[Strawberries]

Aside from evil erudite who start there, that zone was not really accessible to most lowbies until the warrens was released. Had to slaughter Erudin guards to get in good with them. Even with the warrens though you can't really build enough faction until the warrens is trivialized. Maybe you should not get faction from green mobs either?

[Alanus]

This might be a stupid question, but why would a level 50 kill a paineel guard?

[Freakish]

Faction.

[yooperdave23]

This might be a stupid question, but why would a level 50 kill a paineel guard?

There are 7 guards in paineel that give XP at 50. I leveled from 50-51 in paineel on my necromancer.

[Kowalski]

You just got clowned.

[Vicatin]

This is one of the things that motivates me to level toons. So i can actually farm MOAR STUFF

[indiscriminate_hater]

Lower level characters should always yield to higher-level and more established players. These players have been on the server longer and are directly responsible for the success of the server and the proliferation and availability of loot to lower-level toons. Honestly, there should be a movement to empower those who maintain the server economy instead of promoting pixel welfare and easy-mode EQ.

[poena.dare]

I'm roleplaying. A decayed skeleton killed my parents. Move along, kid.

[tiadashi]

I know there are zones with guards that high level toons like to farm for plat. Sometimes they are farming NPC's that are 20 levels below their level. My question is, should a player be able to farm those mobs that give them no or very very very little xp, when a lower level player could be farming for both at the same time?

They can and its not going to change, maybe just try talking with them - ask if you can have a guard spawn or 2?

[Spyder73]

I was once told by a level 55 shaman who was camping Oasis Spectres that "it's a money driven world my friend"

#OPisRustled

[zillabunny]

a few times I've gone into the basement of unrest and there are level 60's down there i ask politly if I can camp it for XP and they'll usually leave. embarrassed that they're level 60 looking for fine steel and jagged bands

[zillabunny]

Also how does one get into paineel without a key?

[Tethler]

I run into this from both ends. Orc camp in highpass comes to mind. I usually give the camp to lower levels if they are polite in asking about it. Being nice to people goes a long way.

[yooperdave23]

a few times I've gone into the basement of unrest and there are level 60's down there i ask politly if I can camp it for XP and they'll usually leave. embarrassed that they're level 60 looking for fine steel and jagged bands

Someone gives up their camp so you can get XP and you make snotty comments about them.

[skarlorn]

Good posts by :

Entruil
Maskedmelon
Indiscriminate_hater
Spyder73
Poena. Dare
Fan D
Kowalski

Thread is performing way above average, unlike the OP.

[Mortiis]

How do you know they were farming for plat and not quest items or junk for crafting?

This was my thought. spiderling silks, leather padding..etc.

[Mortiis]

I was once told by a level 55 shaman who was camping Oasis Spectres that "it's a money driven world my friend"

#OPisRustled


BIG MONIES off them specs.. a 55 shaman? now that's funny.

[RDawg816]

Also how does one get into paineel without a key?
Same way everyone gets a key. Guards hand them out like candy.

[Baler]

There is a zone called The Warrens you may like.
Same way everyone gets a key. Guards hand them out like candy.

Combine these. Tada,.. find someone who can aoe. took me 1 hour even at max hate.
I've done it twice.

[Jimjam]

BIG MONIES off them specs.. a 55 shaman? now that's funny.
clearly a strategic move to stop others levelling up and accessing the BIG MONIES!

[NagaPrince]

Lower level characters should always yield to higher-level and more established players. These players have been on the server longer and are directly responsible for the success of the server and the proliferation and availability of loot to lower-level toons. Honestly, there should be a movement to empower those who maintain the server economy instead of promoting pixel welfare and easy-mode EQ.

I hope you're joking. That kind of attitude will prevent new people from wanting to invest hundreds or thousands of hours into an MMO game that is nearly two decades old. Elitism is strong here.

Availability of loot? That mostly they can't afford until their Main is maxed? Damn I got Triggered.

Totally worth it.

[Jaleth]

I hope you're joking. That kind of attitude will prevent new people from wanting to invest hundreds or thousands of hours into an MMO game that is nearly two decades old. Elitism is strong here.

Availability of loot? That mostly they can't afford until their Main is maxed? Damn I got Triggered.

Totally worth it.

Yeah there are quite a few here that make it their mission to get folks riled up. You'll learn who they are, since most of the time they want to see the reactions to their controversial posts. It's entertaining to them, and hell, even me as well sometimes. It's called ForumQuest for a reason.

But I'll bite and take it up a notch. All players that kill non-experience giving mobs in the game should be banned on the first kill. Shit's classic.

I hope others see the the irony/hypocrisy of this post. =D

[Spyder73]

Yeah there are quite a few here that make it their mission to get folks riled up. You'll learn who they are, since most of the time they want to see the reactions to their controversial posts. It's entertaining to them, and hell, even me as well sometimes. It's called ForumQuest for a reason.

If you are suggesting that there is a highly vocal minority of players, most of whom do not even play P99 anymore, that highjack these boards/threads to further their own nefarious ends of internet trolling....well I would FITE IRL someone who made that type of claim.

[Metalopolis]

a few times I've gone into the basement of unrest and there are level 60's down there i ask politly if I can camp it for XP and they'll usually leave. embarrassed that they're level 60 looking for fine steel and jagged bands

I've been known to camp the ghost on my 60 Warrior to get some jagged bands and/or dwarven work boots to hand out to people in unrest. Players who are in the level 20-30 range still wearing cloth and patchwork, as I know they're actively playing said toon.

Don't like giving our gear in EC for this reason, for example.

[Jimjam]

Yeah there are quite a few here that make it their mission to get folks riled up. You'll learn who they are, since most of the time they want to see the reactions to their controversial posts. It's entertaining to them, and hell, even me as well sometimes. It's called ForumQuest for a reason.

But I'll bite and take it up a notch. All players that kill non-experience giving mobs in the game should be banned on the first kill. Shit's classic.

I hope others see the the irony/hypocrisy of this post. =D

'Availability of loot'. To be honest, on live people would be using absolutely rubbish weapons and might not see things like Green Jade Broadswords till their 40s.

On p99, spend levels 1-4 killing skeletons, bears and spiders and you'll have that before level 5.

Once you surpass your 40s you can go out and earn your own loot without the need to buy it.

[countytime]

you don't own norrath kid kick rocks

Shitbags like this are why this forum is a cesspool.

[Lagaidh]

a few times I've gone into the basement of unrest and there are level 60's down there i ask politly if I can camp it for XP and they'll usually leave. embarrassed that they're level 60 looking for fine steel and jagged bands

There's an implied "the way you play is dumb" in almost everything any of us says isn't there?

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Shitbags like this are why this forum is a cesspool.

Hey he's just one the edgy cool 40 year old kids, careful man.

[maskedmelon]

He's actually kinda funny if you don't wrap your feelings in flowers and Kotex ^^

[Tewaz]

Probably because all the big money camps are camped 24/7 by people on government assistance. Have to drop RMT just to get the gear to get in line for the fungi king.

[tristantio]

High level farming in a low level area is good risk vs reward if you don't feel like paying much attention while still getting some plat.

[Maschenny]

What are some places these bad people might be doing this?

[Jimjam]

SolA is a popular one, you often see 50s monks in there. Although much of the time the solo monks will be lower and also getting xp.

I suppose it might be something a ranger could do effectively, seeing as their defence caps out at level 40 (so they tank mobs upto mid/late 30s effectively) and they have a reasonable array of damage shields, heals, mobilisation, etc.