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Quidello
09-19-2016, 10:05 PM
Are the trash mobs in fear/hate pretty easy for level 60 characters? The mobs (AC, hp, dmg stats from wiki) don't seem much harder than krups in sebilis or mobs in HS south. Would it be possible to break in and kill stuff with single balanced group of 60s?

Jmcwrestling
09-19-2016, 11:20 PM
Yeah, pretty easy actually.
Only real concern is 2nd floor invisible fists of quantum bullshit

Handull
09-20-2016, 12:02 AM
both can be done. the biggest pain will be the pulls, it really helps to know what you're doing.

another issue in hate is the trash mob pathers that will repop regularly. with fewer people, they take longer to kill, so you spend less time fighting the mobs you want and more time on them.

fear has the added complication of scarelings that will proc shadowstep, and you can/will get quite a few adds on the zonein. I've solo'd the break of fear, but it was a very long and arduous process.

Bummey
09-20-2016, 12:29 AM
Depends on the players, group composition, and gear. Breaking in to Hate is always a surprise; sometimes you'll get a ghast and a rat, and sometimes you'll get a swarm of magic immune spite golems; sometimes your healer will load in first and get fucking wrecked before they can react.

You can kite the break in swarm in Fear's wide open spaces, but Hate is too tight for that and you always run the risk of second floor teleport fists.

solutionx
09-20-2016, 01:35 AM
We've done first floor minis with only nine before, but someone had cleared the floor about an hour before our arrival, so we didn't have to deal with anything but the roamer repops. Also... a monk who extremely knew his shit.

Maner
09-20-2016, 02:31 AM
can do hate minis with 4 people if you are smart and know how to pull it

Sallan
09-20-2016, 02:58 AM
can do hate minis with 4 people if you are smart and know how to pull it

Even as low as two people if you are lucky with the break :)

surron
09-20-2016, 07:33 AM
can evac in pohate when you land and end up at the safe spot in middle of zone at the spiral staircase. then proceed to kill maestro room and your set. very ez

Doctor Jeff
09-20-2016, 09:20 AM
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Sodors Finest Poster
09-20-2016, 09:31 AM
I hate trains.

Shift
09-20-2016, 10:31 AM
I hate trains.

say's the guy with a avatar of Thomas The Train & Friends Lmao, shit's classic folks

Swish
09-20-2016, 12:33 PM
say's the guy with a avatar of Thomas The Train & Friends Lmao, shit's classic folks

/facepalm :p

Quidello
09-20-2016, 07:46 PM
another issue in hate is the trash mob pathers that will repop regularly. with fewer people, they take longer to kill, so you spend less time fighting the mobs you want and more time on them.



Do all the pathers repop? Any idea what the spawn time is?

Bummey
09-21-2016, 11:42 AM
Do all the pathers repop? Any idea what the spawn time is?

Yes. I know they're pretty quick to respawn, but I don't have an estimate.

Erati
09-21-2016, 11:47 AM
can evac in pohate when you land and end up at the safe spot in middle of zone at the spiral staircase. then proceed to kill maestro room and your set. very ez

The safe point in PoH is the zone in where the wizard port spells land you.

Your advice is incorrect.

surron
09-21-2016, 03:19 PM
The safe point in PoH is the zone in where the wizard port spells land you.

Your advice is incorrect.

then that's wrong because on live and eqmac its location 0,0


http://www.showeq.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-1010.html

from an article in 2002.

Plane of Hate 0, 0 Inside the pillar with the ramp to Inny's room. Not really safe.

actually that post references a website from December 2001 https://web.archive.org/web/20011215151759/http://www.graffe.com/library/abscond.htm

way back machine has a snapshot of that from December 15th 2001 (Luclin released December 4th 2001) doubt that A) Luclin changed pohate's safe spot and B) He edited his website within that 10 day period


check out takproject if you want an accurate classic EQ experience

kotton05
09-21-2016, 03:31 PM
can do hate minis with 4 people if you are smart and know how to pull it

omghi