Charlotte, North Carolina

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http://www.wsoctv.com/(a local news channel) (http://www.wsoctv.com/)


so a black cop shot an armed black man?... what is going on?


are more white people coming from outerspace and this is how they twist the news?....



not relevant but what the f... (same site just a story) (http://www.wsoctv.com/news/trending-now/deputies-man-grabbed-drugs-left-baby-as-home-burned-down/448317846)

[Angushjalmur]

It's current year and you haven't realized yet that BLM doesn't have anything to do with caring about black people.

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isn't BLM just a label that is put on a group to categorize and marginallize?... ... the real culprits seem to be a president that legitamizes racist violence and violent protesting, a demo candidate that flouts the law and in doing so encourages her serfs to follow suit.

I just wondered what is going on in the world that this would be happening (what aren't we supposed to be paying attention to in the current news cycle)...

[fash]

Just some animals running wild in the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVbdqgyQacw

[Nibblewitz]

Violence and conflict sells.

[Pokesan]

Violence and conflict sells.

so do products made with prison labor!

[Angushjalmur]

so do products made with prison labor!

Implying that people get put in prison for no reason

[Pokesan]

Implying that people get put in prison for no reason

i don't understand why you think this is relevant

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local cbs station livefeed(Helicopter) (www.wbtv.com/category/258124/wbtv-live-stream)

fox local live stream(on the ground) (http://www.fox46charlotte.com/live)* this one might b loud

don't have scanner out... currently playing recordings

either way , much better links than above...

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reports of civilian fatally shot civilian uptown .... feeds are live... expect helicopter to have to refuel just before action...

bad wording and lack of details diminishing returns...

[Angushjalmur]

civilian shot civilian.... live

I need details

[Angushjalmur]

lmao dude just called em 'brotesters' on the live stream

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlotte-protests-20160921-snap-story.html

'The governor announced he has initiated efforts to deploy the National Guard and state troopers to help quell the violence, which has raged for the past two nights in Charlotte in response to the death of 43-year-old'

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Pretty dissappointed that i have not been able to find any "protestors" livestreams...

ustream looks like it has become a pile of crap...


oh well ... peace

[JurisDictum]

CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) -

The Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department continued to withhold video from police body cameras and dash cameras Wednesday that contain footage surrounding the moments a police officer shot and killed Keith Lamont Scott in the parking lot of a University City-area apartment complex.

Police say Scott was shot as he attempted to get out of his car with a gun in his hand. His family disputes that, saying he was in his car reading a book while he waited for his son to come home from school.

At a press conference Wednesday morning, CMPD Chief Kerr Putney said his department would not release the video.

Sooooo...

I'm going to wait until I see that video to make up my mind. See I'm not one of those idiots that hears "cop" and "black man shot" and assume I know exactly what happened. We have too many of those these days.

[JurisDictum]

From what I can tell, the entire protest is based on the fact that the cops refused to release the video indefinitely under <enter some bullshit statute here>

So we give them all car and body cams to insure us that they are doing things by the book...and then they refuse to release the video...

I couldn't have planned a better way to start a riot at this point.

Edit: so apparently starting Oct 1. it will be illegal to release a bodycam video without a court order in this wonderful state...cool laws you guys have. The good news is we might get to see this video before the law goes into effect.

[Daywolf]

I need details
Simple. The George Soros army on the march again. Same this time as last time, no real reason needed for them. Soros and his people in leadership really need to be arrested on charges of high treason. Also 0bama impeached (swiftly) and HRC locked up.

[Jarnauga]

Look at all these muslim refugees raping and stealing in euro..

Oh, wait, sorry :D

[AzzarTheGod]

Simple. The George Soros army on the march again. Same this time as last time, no real reason needed for them. Soros and his people in leadership really need to be arrested on charges of high treason. Also 0bama impeached (swiftly) and HRC locked up.

Fact is the Reagan era had other consequences. Its called poison tree.

When we declared as a nation that "Greed is good" during the 1980 Reagan era, we lost the ability to judge others for committing white-collar crimes or getting ahead.

More importantly, it established a class of elites. Wallstreet is still borderline untouchable, as are the banks. And Clinton and the Foundation is no different.

The AG Loretta Lynch is just another affirmative action girl along for the ride. She will take her cut when the time comes in the form of a donation, vacation, or house sold to her for a certain low price.

America is capitalist, for all its faults. And the Daywolf's are just going to have to accept the new normal that began in the Reagan era. We lost the ability as a people (meaning, the masses) to judge anyone in high-society. The classes were cemented, and Reagan went to war for the elites for the very first time in history he went public with it. Its time to move forward and accept this.

[Daywolf]

huh?
All this shiat didn't start under Reagan. It's been around since ... well a long time. But if you want to talk current era, in a way it did start under Reagan, when he was forced to take Bush as VP. This is all 100% globalist garbage, I mean those that are screwing us (e.g. like Soros is HARD core globalist and who funded BLM and house their leader). I ain't accepting anything, because these be chains they wanting to put on us.

They got all these people fooled that are out on the street. When they are done using them, they will be wiped out right along with the rest of us. Their masters don't care about black or gay or muslim or poor, it's about setting a fire and then diving in with the firefighting hose ...to tie everyone up.

better?

And before you ask, yes Soros is a jew, well from a "non-practicing" jewish family. Most jews are that way anyway. I don't know about ZoG, but certainly we have a GoG as in globalist occupational government. They think themselves citizens of the world coming from all nations.

[AzzarTheGod]

huh?
All this shiat didn't start under Reagan. It's been around since ... well a long time. But if you want to talk current era, in a way it did start under Reagan, when he was forced to take Bush as VP. This is all 100% globalist garbage, I mean those that are screwing us (e.g. like Soros is HARD core globalist and who funded BLM and house their leader). I ain't accepting anything, because these be chains they wanting to put on us.

They got all these people fooled that are out on the street. When they are done using them, they will be wiped out right along with the rest of us. Their masters don't care about black or gay or muslim or poor, it's about setting a fire and then diving in with the firefighting hose ...to tie everyone up.

better?

And before you ask, yes Soros is a jew, well from a "non-practicing" jewish family. Most jews are that way anyway. I don't know about ZoG, but certainly we have a GoG as in globalist occupational government. They think themselves citizens of the world coming from all nations.

Reagan was the first president to openly state that greed is good, and therefore implying that corruption is also good and American through linear logic at the time.

He was the one that created the current moral establishment.

[Daywolf]

Reagan was the first president to openly state that greed is good, and therefore implying that corruption is also good and American through linear logic at the time.

He was the one that created the current moral establishment.

:confused:
where is Reagan's speech on "greed is good"?
Or are you talking about the 1987 wall street movie?
That's all the leftist liberal rantings, I remember it. I lived through the Reagan era, that's when I dumped liberal for conservative. I realized back then, as it is today, liberals are missing some marbles. Some, especially the lefties, are downright nuts.
You turning socialist again, AtG? You're like all over the place every couple months.

Anyway, all this has nothing to do with that. This started about 100 years ago, at least the campaign on America. Originally the globalists pushed hard, but they started being rejected. So they reorganized and realized to best implement their global government, they were going to need to do it in gentle phases through the 20th century, a slower progression. But now again, they are pushing hard, feeling the goal in reach. Maybe they are in a rush, it's gotten to a point where some people are waking up to it, threatening to set them back decades.

These people on the street, they are without a doubt being lead by leaders a part of the Soro's gang. They have the ear of an angry mob, and are being set against the US to cause considerable instability so these globalists can take power.

You think not? Look at Brexit, that was a pushback against it, a dire threat to the globalist plans. The whole EU could topple, especially if the US does the same now. This is a war going on, a power struggle, those that want this globalist garbage, and those that don't.

[Nihilist_santa]

Look at all these muslim refugees raping and stealing in euro..

Oh, wait, sorry :D

Was wondering what had happened to you. Figured you were cut off when they started building the wall in Calais .

[Nihilist_santa]

huh?
All this shiat didn't start under Reagan. It's been around since ... well a long time. But if you want to talk current era, in a way it did start under Reagan, when he was forced to take Bush as VP. This is all 100% globalist garbage, I mean those that are screwing us (e.g. like Soros is HARD core globalist and who funded BLM and house their leader). I ain't accepting anything, because these be chains they wanting to put on us.

They got all these people fooled that are out on the street. When they are done using them, they will be wiped out right along with the rest of us. Their masters don't care about black or gay or muslim or poor, it's about setting a fire and then diving in with the firefighting hose ...to tie everyone up.

better?

And before you ask, yes Soros is a jew, well from a "non-practicing" jewish family. Most jews are that way anyway. I don't know about ZoG, but certainly we have a GoG as in globalist occupational government. They think themselves citizens of the world coming from all nations.

Reagan was ok. He fucked up by giving amnesty and banning full auto.

[Jarnauga]

Was wondering what had happened to you. Figured you were cut off when they started building the wall in Calais .

i'm just saying, all these people rioting share something that y'all are too politically correct to admit..


..they're all christians. and deep down we all know that the bible is full of dangerous stuff. wasn't jesus married to a whore ? what kind of prophet marries a whore ? he even threw out the businessmen out of the temple, that's clearly anti-freedom. and you all hear about their imams priests being pedophiles ? open your eyes, their values are clearly wrong. The truth is christians are trying to destroy america by bringing their communist beliefs in here.. like wtf is that thing about multiplying bread to give to poor people ? if that's not communism nothing is. also guess what. all the people holding public positions.. they're ALL christians. all the public figures. All of them. You tell me the media isn't biased now, fkin sheeple. the other day i saw a nun i her burqa, i was so shocked and sad that i couldn't see her boobies. well im a free bald eagle and i'm not eating this bread of lies they feed us.

[Nihilist_santa]

i'm just saying, all these people rioting share something that y'all are too politically correct to admit..


..they're all christians. and deep down we all know that the bible is full of dangerous stuff. wasn't jesus married to a whore ? what kind of prophet marries a whore ? he even threw out the businessmen out of the temple, that's clearly anti-freedom. and you all hear about their imams priests being pedophiles ? open your eyes, their values are clearly wrong. The truth is christians are trying to destroy america by bringing their communist beliefs in here.. like wtf is that thing about multiplying bread to give to poor people ? if that's not communism nothing is. also guess what. all the people holding public positions.. they're ALL christians. all the public figures. All of them. You tell me the media isn't biased now, fkin sheeple. the other day i saw a nun i her burqa, i was so shocked and sad that i couldn't see her boobies. well im a free bald eagle and i'm not eating this bread of lies they feed us.

(((Jarns))) back.

http://i.imgur.com/hwJj0zM.gif

[Angushjalmur]

i'm just saying, all these people rioting share something that y'all are too politically correct to admit..


..they're all jews. and deep down we all know that the Talmud is full of dangerous stuff. wasn't Moses a thieving general ? what kind of prophet ransacks Egypt and breaks a labor contract ? he even sold some of his own men into slavery, that's clearly anti-freedom. and you all hear about their imams Mohalem being pedophiles ? open your eyes, their values are clearly wrong. The truth is jews are trying to destroy america by bringing their communist beliefs in here.. like wtf is that thing about multiplying bread to give to poor people ? if that's not communism nothing is. also guess what. all the people holding public positions.. they're ALL working for israel. all the public figures. All of them. You tell me the media isn't biased now, fkin goyim. the other day i saw a nun i her burqa, i was so shocked and sad that i couldn't see her boobies. well im a free bald eagle and i'm not eating this bread of lies they feed us.

The worst part about this is that the people pushing communism on america are die hard capitalists.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

At least with Reagan our defense wasn't garbage.

I remember watching a live news vid of him speaking about the Berlin Wall. He thought he was off the air, and made a comment. It went something like this : "We'll they have to tear it down, or we'll blow them up", as he chuckled.

Probably one of the best highlights of Reagan for me.

Thing is, when Reagan took office- it put the fear of god back into people. Which, despite Reagan's short coming's - no one wanted to fuck with us.

I hope Trump can do the same thing.

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rioting christians they're ALL christians. public figures. media sheeple. boobies. bald eagle bread feed us.

just a bit of fun but i like the <insert conservative here> argument...

if someone is a christian they are not going to go around doing the things you are accusing them of...

..............

hoover nixon and greenspan are only lessers... reagan might of just put the light on top of the hill(if he did it was probably for nancy) , idk...

principals of sound money and freedom are christian values... but not cause maher says so... hehe peace

[maskedmelon]

i'm just saying, all these people rioting share something that y'all are too politically correct to admit..


..they're all christians. and deep down we all know that the bible is full of dangerous stuff. wasn't jesus married to a whore ? what kind of prophet marries a whore ? he even threw out the businessmen out of the temple, that's clearly anti-freedom. and you all hear about their imams priests being pedophiles ? open your eyes, their values are clearly wrong. The truth is christians are trying to destroy america by bringing their communist beliefs in here..


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http://i.imgur.com/SO7m6A0.jpg

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lol... expected more petey pablo

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https://storify.com/cmgnationalnews/protests-turn-violent-in-charlotte-on-second-night/preview

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From what I can tell, the entire protest is based on the fact that the cops refused to release the video indefinitely under <enter some bullshit statute here>

So we give them all car and body cams to insure us that they are doing things by the book...and then they refuse to release the video...

I couldn't have planned a better way to start a riot at this point.

Edit: so apparently starting Oct 1. it will be illegal to release a bodycam video without a court order in this wonderful state...cool laws you guys have. The good news is we might get to see this video before the law goes into effect.

don't understand the "you guys have." but other than that +1

[R Flair]

http://imgur.com/GLVO0Au.jpg
So disgusting that we have a candidate that race-baits claiming perp was UNARMED.

From the get go police have reported the man was ARMED. Not only that but he was shot by a black police officer.

Aside from the hundreds of crimes and treason Hitlary has already committed, this alone should once again disqualify her from running and land her in jail.

[Joyelle]

Terence Crutcher was the one that was supposedly unarmed in Tulsa. Keith Lamont Scott is the one who had a gun/book (whatever you believe) and was shot by the black cop in Charlotte. These 2 happened so close together that alot of people are mixing up the facts.

The police chief just stated that the video won't be made public so I expect these idiots to chimp out around the city again tonight. Saw a bunch of humvees headed that way earlier, so hopefully they will enforce a curfew.

[Brutal_X]

has there been a police shooting that has happened yet that was factually proven to be racially driven? not that I know of.

i see people saying that blacks apparently can't even go outside without being assassinated on their porch by a white person. they seem to do fine in public when rioting tho so i guess it doesn't apply then.

[sOurDieSel]

More media coverage of chimpouts = more votes for Trump.

[JurisDictum]

After hearing the explanation for why the video has yet to be released (provided by the family's lawyers), I feel better about the decision. But that's definitely not how it was pitched when I first heard of this story. The police chief seemed to imply the video may be made secret indefinitely-- and he never once sighted the man's family as the hold up.

In short, If the guy has a gun and the video looks suspicious -- I doubt it will be released. And that should be the right of families that have a guy caught on camera acting like a thug right before they die.

But I'm a big believer that if done right, these body cams might reduce a lot of tension. But we need to make sure that the cops can't easily manipulate them. I hear the officer that shot the guy isn't wearing one....well WTF not? Is that what were going to hear every time?

And the media has to be held more accountable for how they release information to people. I have no idea how to do that however.

[JurisDictum]

has there been a police shooting that has happened yet that was factually proven to be racially driven? not that I know of.

i see people saying that blacks apparently can't even go outside without being assassinated on their porch by a white person. they seem to do fine in public when rioting tho so i guess it doesn't apply then.

7859

[Pokesan]

Gonna take the people saying "chimp out" at their word when they say no racism was involved.

[R Flair]

Terence Crutcher was the one that was supposedly unarmed in Tulsa. Keith Lamont Scott is the one who had a gun/book (whatever you believe) and was shot by the black cop in Charlotte. These 2 happened so close together that alot of people are mixing up the facts.

The police chief just stated that the video won't be made public so I expect these idiots to chimp out around the city again tonight. Saw a bunch of humvees headed that way earlier, so hopefully they will enforce a curfew.

My mistake thanks for clarifying. Nevertheless, the obvious race-baiting still holds true and this incident in NC has yet to have been addressed by her.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://imgur.com/GLVO0Au.jpg
So disgusting that we have a candidate that race-baits claiming perp was UNARMED.

From the get go police have reported the man was ARMED. Not only that but he was shot by a black police officer.

Aside from the hundreds of crimes and treason Hitlary has already committed, this alone should once again disqualify her from running and land her in jail.

She knows when she got a bitch, she got a bitch.

Pimping curly baby. Straight pimping the black man.

[Pokesan]

getting shot to death by police is race baiting

[JurisDictum]

He could have at least had the common decency to have a gun in the car!

Yea the Tulsa case is pretty straight forward...thanks to blm kids making a ruckus. Otherwise we would be hearing a lot more about "her side."

But that might punctuate the narrative that its a useless movement that stands for nothing and can never accomplish anything except destruction.

[R Flair]

Her side is the dude was high on PCP, refusing to listen to police, and reached into his car while police told him repeatedly to stop and get on the ground for over a minute.

Was a bad decision for her, she should have tased him like the other officer. Just another example of why most women aren't equipped to deal with high stress situations. She called it the most stressful event in her life, but watching both the dash and helicopter video footage show it to have really not been that big of a deal.

She has been charged with first degree manslaughter and her life is probably over.

The perps race is irrelevant.

[AzzarTheGod]

Her side is the dude was high on PCP, refusing to listen to police, and reached into his car while police told him repeatedly to stop and get on the ground for over a minute.

Was a bad decision for her, she should have tased him like the other officer. Just another example of why most women aren't equipped to deal with high stress situations. She called it the most stressful event in her life, but watching both the dash and helicopter video footage show it to have really not been that big of a deal.

She has been charged with first degree manslaughter and her life is probably over.

The perps race is irrelevant.

pras. thank god. emotions do not make the laws. men made laws.

shes gonna be doin hard time in the bing. and that's the bottom line.

[JurisDictum]

"Her side is the dude was high on PCP, refusing to listen to police, and reached into his car while police told him repeatedly to stop and get on the ground for over a minute."

I think she would have walked in 2010 under those circumstances. Probably would still be an officer.

[R Flair]

Maybe. America has never been less racist, but the left's dialectical agenda has created racial tension unseen since the days of Rodney King and OJ. Couldn't be more manufactured, or more dangerous for everyone especially blacks and the police who are rightly on high alert while having to walk on eggshells.

[AzzarTheGod]

"Her side is the dude was high on PCP, refusing to listen to police, and reached into his car while police told him repeatedly to stop and get on the ground for over a minute."

I think she would have walked in 2010 under those circumstances. Probably would still be an officer.

Dead on.

[Angushjalmur]

getting shot to death by police is race baiting

Having an illegal gun, outstanding warrants, and ignoring police orders isnt, race baiting, its just a poor life choice.

Making it about race when it clearly is not.. That's race baiting

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lmao feed just cut out when some guy with a PA said "I'm a revolutionary communist."(i might have misunderstood him though).... it just came back though... "All the whores need to be stopped"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Relations_Service not in swing apparently....

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https://storify.com/cmgnationalnews/protests-turn-violent-in-charlotte-on-second-night/preview

sry for spam... quoted for visibility and scott family statement about video i missed earlier....

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'CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) -

A curfew was issued in uptown Charlotte as large groups took to the streets for the third night in a row Thursday protesting the death of Keith Lamont Scott, who was shot and killed by a Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police (CMPD) officer earlier in the week.

The curfew, which will last from midnight to 6 a.m., will be in place every day until the State of Emergency is lifted or the official proclamation is revoked.'


-----

national guard waiting in uptown...


seems like the feds and national media corps. controlling the info now... glad im not there i would be getting arrested just cause curfew... ...

[maskedmelon]

You know, to me, night is a rather dubious platform for social activism.

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http://www.wsoctv.com/video/live-event-2 helicopter feed....
riot police showing up


yea, melon, i hear you.


*sry guys, i dont use the face-book. is there a way to watch public live feeds without an account on there?

[Daywolf]

fb? meh. Here is a faux 10 stream https://youtu.be/vZq7KsMXYaI
About an hour for the action to start. Yeah might need to find another stream quick here, faux may pull out to obey the law I'm guessing. I don't think there are going to be any safe spaces in an hour.

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passenger just got out a car, dude with hand on holstered gun, nc is open carry,just scared everyone on fox 46...


*and 46 feed gone... ...

**have any guardian angels been spotted?... don't see a chapter from NC though...

[AzzarTheGod]

You know, to me, night is a rather dubious platform for social activism.

If you sleep all day, it makes infinitely more sense.

[Daywolf]

Looks like faux 10 has a drone up.
About 20 minutes to ignition. Mob just started moving...

[AzzarTheGod]

Looks like faux 10 has a drone up.
About 20 minutes to ignition. Mob just started moving...

How long before drones are part of the press ban? Criminals could use drones to gather intel.

[maskedmelon]

If you sleep all day, it makes infinitely more sense.

lol

[Daywolf]

How long before drones are part of the press ban? Criminals could use drones to gather intel.Well not tonight. I don't think it's any advantage for the mob in any case. Looks like the mob is headed to downtown. Everyone is just standing there now. Looks like they are going to do it..

[Daywolf]

They got stand down/hold orders. Wont be enforcing curfew.

[AzzarTheGod]

They got stand down/hold orders. Wont be enforcing curfew.

They got beasted on.

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if they are going to do something they will wait 'til hype dies down and get their jammers and flashing lights and sonic tech out ....

highly unlikely if protestors keep it cool...

*lmao "we'll be out here every day f that"...

**only takes a few people to change atmosphere sometimes...

[Daywolf]

Well it's what a Sgt. said, as long as they keep it peaceful they are not going to clear them out.

[fash]

Charlotte's gone full chimp out. Can't believe people are still calling these animals "protestors".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmOTXfQq0xc

[Pokesan]

very dope police riot

vote trump

[Daywolf]

Charlotte's gone full chimp out. Can't believe people are still calling these animals "protestors".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmOTXfQq0xc

Charlotte Riots: What They're NOT Telling You (https://youtu.be/MDzsE5heUuA)

[Pokesan]

Charlotte Riots: What They're NOT Telling You (https://youtu.be/MDzsE5heUuA)

daywolf displays his independent thinker cred by linking infowars for the fifteen hundredth time

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lol ezel was in video stealin' shoes...

ISS feed only chance of seeing anything now?...

[AzzarTheGod]

daywolf displays his independent thinker cred by linking infowars for the fifteen hundredth time

2 dunks in under 4 minutes, pokesan is on fire.

Can anybody stop him??? *announcer shout*

[R Flair]

daywolf displays his independent thinker cred by linking infowars for the fifteen hundredth time

whatever u do, make sure you attack the source and not the content

[AzzarTheGod]

whatever u do, make sure you attack the source and not the content

- Chapter 3, verse 16. Book of Azzar the God.

[Jarnauga]

Black guy uses his 2nd amendment right to resist the opressive obama administration and gets shot

I don't get why y'all don't call him a hero.. right ? :D

[Nihilist_santa]

Black guy uses his 2nd amendment right to resist the opressive obama administration and gets shot

I don't get why y'all don't call him a hero.. right ? :D

What are you going on about? That dude dindu nuffin he was just sitting in his car reading How to Win Friends and Influence People.

I like how the family is now saying that the video is unclear. They have been somewhat silent since viewing the video. Really makes you think.

[Daywolf]

I bet if he were shot unarmed, the vid would have been released within hours :P

[Nihilist_santa]

Everyone keeps forgetting he was shot by a black cop in a city with a black police chief. They are in on the "systemic" racism apparently.

[entruil]

Ron Paul: Drug War In U.S. Has Racist Origins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHQM2SASFU)

Ron Paul Calls For An End To The Racist War On Drugs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VR9YbBquRY)

Ron Paul - Capitalism vs. Corporatism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5in0V4AvPrk) * oh dang watch out for alex jones speaker BOOOM around 6:30


Will also add that racism goes every which way. Social Engineering by the federal govt. is far more concerning to me than racism(also the growing "caste" system).

-sidenote: this is what rp is right? larp,larp,larp,larp...

[Jarnauga]

What are you going on about? That dude dindu nuffin he was just sitting in his car reading How to Win Friends and Influence People.

Nah, not saying that.. who would already draw conclusions when the investigation is still going on, amirite ? ;)

I like how the family is now saying that the video is unclear. They have been somewhat silent since viewing the video. Really makes you think.

Really ? (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103509382.html)

An attorney for the family of Keith Lamont Scott said Thursday night that, after viewing videos taken by police dashboard and body cameras, Scott’s wife and other family members want those videos released to the public immediately.

Chief Putney said Thursday that footage from the Scott shooting does not show "absolute, definitive visual evidence that could confirm that a person is pointing a gun. I didn’t see that in the videos I saw." Still, Putney told the news conference that he'll only show the footage to the victim's family, not the public.

The chief said the agency only publicly releases video of shootings "when we believe there is a compelling reason." He said the department wants to be as transparent as possible, "but I never said full transparency."

"If you think we should display a family’s worst day for public consumption, that is not the transparency we’re speaking of," Putney said.

So the family wants the video to be released and not the police ? why ? whatever you think of the whole deal, the point of having cameras on policer is to actually prove they did their job in the best way possible, so why not realease it to shut the whole case down ? that kind of attitude is just pouring oil on the fire right now.

[Angushjalmur]

What are you going on about? That dude dindu nuffin he was just sitting in his car reading How to Win Friends and Influence People.

I like how the family is now saying that the video is unclear. They have been somewhat silent since viewing the video. Really makes you think.

It takes racists a while to come up with a new spin once theyre proven blatantly wrong

[Nihilist_santa]

Has Jarn ever been right about one of these incidents? So answer this Jarn if the cop that shot Scott was black how does this incident support the racist narrative?

[entruil]

Mission Accomplished? More US Troops To Iraq (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC4BoOsqb-I)

[Pokesan]

whatever u do, make sure you attack the source and not the content

taking jones seriously is identical to getting your news from mentally ill homeless people shouting at traffic.

go ahead, disprove their claims.

[Nihilist_santa]

The families lawyer has released video recorded by the victim's wife at the time of the incident. It doesn't show the shooting directly but once again the person was not being compliant. Officers shouting several times to drop the gun. The man's wife telling him to comply and work with the officers.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004667027/video-keith-scott-police-shooting-charlotte.html

LOL @ ambulamps. Tragic someone died by being difficult with the police but I cant help but laugh at that every time I hear it.

[Jarnauga]

Has Jarn ever been right about one of these incidents? So answer this Jarn if the cop that shot Scott was black how does this incident support the racist narrative?

oh it doesn't, i'm more of a "trigger happy policeman" than "dis raycist" guy

[Jarnauga]

taking jones seriously is identical to getting your news from mentally ill homeless people shouting at traffic.

go ahead, disprove their claims.

https://youtu.be/6KalX0MJ5hQ

[Angushjalmur]

oh it doesn't, i'm more of a "trigger happy policeman" than "dis raycist" guy
Argument annihilated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g)

nothing personnel, kid

[JurisDictum]

The elves idea came from Terrance Mckenna. He was a sci fi fan as a child and took a tun of mushrooms as an adult. Then he wrote books about the elves he would see during his trips. He got relatively wealthy and famous doing this.

What I like about Mckenna, is he believed his own bullshit.

[Angushjalmur]

taking jones seriously is identical to getting your news from mentally ill homeless people shouting at traffic.

go ahead, disprove their claims.

Youre a liberal. By definition, nothing you will ever say for the rest of your existence will carry any weight. That's just a law of nature.

[barrettdc1]

The families lawyer has released video recorded by the victim's wife at the time of the incident. It doesn't show the shooting directly but once again the person was not being compliant. Officers shouting several times to drop the gun. The man's wife telling him to comply and work with the officers.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004667027/video-keith-scott-police-shooting-charlotte.html

LOL @ ambulamps. Tragic someone died by being difficult with the police but I cant help but laugh at that every time I hear it.

SOMEONE GET DAT BOY SOME MILK!

[Jarnauga]

Argument annihilated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g)

nothing personnel, kid

i don't really have an argument, and i fully understand that cops face dangers and they should protect themselves.

My point is why not release the video when there's obviously doubts about what happened ? Also, from what i read, the guys were looking for someone (that wasn't the victim) and happened to shoot the guy ? why ? because he had (what they think was, until proven) a gun ? in a open-carry state..? Maybe they made a mistake in the heat of the moment ? and that's understandable, they're still human beings, right ?

The real thing is neither you, or me, or the family knows what happened. We can only believe what the cops say about it, and i'm sorry but it wouldn't be the first time that they would lie to cover their asses. (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/09/cops-record-themselves-allegedly-fabricating-charges-with-suspects-camera/)

There's a video about what happened that can put the whole thing to rest, but let's not release it ? that's the part that's fucked up. I'm not defending the rioters (who should be prosecuted), or the guy that died, or the cops here, i'm defending the seek of truth. Like we all should.

..of course, you can just say "err, he's black, so he deserved it". Which is exactly what some cops think. Which is why some of this stuff happens. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Jarnauga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvHD8rtR63M

:confused:

[JurisDictum]

The guy had a traumatic brain injury. Which means a guy that normally would comply with police, might have gotten really scattered when they all surrounded him and started shouting. It seems like their has to be a better way to deal with situations like this.

Even if he was some nut with an illegal gun (not confirmed)

[Patriam1066]

The guy had a traumatic brain injury. Which means a guy that normally would comply with police, might have gotten really scattered when they all surrounded him and started shouting. It seems like their has to be a better way to deal with situations like this.

Even if he was some nut with an illegal gun (not confirmed)

This is a reasonable point and could gain support. A riot / chimp out will never accomplish this

Hope this helps!

[AzzarTheGod]

The guy had a traumatic brain injury. Which means a guy that normally would comply with police, might have gotten really scattered when they all surrounded him and started shouting. It seems like their has to be a better way to deal with situations like this.

Even if he was some nut with an illegal gun (not confirmed)

Got an article I might release here in photographed format (its printed in a major paper).

Long story short, you guys will really like the social commentary of it. It hits on exactly what you just mentioned.

It involves a serious incident where a young white person was making terroristic threats, claimed a gun, and had a gun confirmed to be on his hip by SWAT. They didn't shoot him, he tried to ignite a gas station pump, and then he drove his car into a SWAT armored AV unit, then he jumped out and drew on the police.

He drew the gun and they took him down safely with tazer, dogs (got his calf in his mouth) and other safe measures with non-lethal rounds fired into his body to cause maximum trauma.

Should I photograph the story and post it? It was a 4 hour standoff and involved advanced planning and tactics to take him down.

Including stun grenades thrown into his car. If no one wants to read it I won't bother.

[Jarnauga]

Got an article I might release here in photographed format (its printed in a major paper).

Long story short, you guys will really like the social commentary of it. It hits on exactly what you just mentioned.

It involves a serious incident where a young white person was making terroristic threats, claimed a gun, and had a gun confirmed to be on his hip by SWAT. They didn't shoot him, he tried to ignite a gas station pump, and then he drove his car into a SWAT armored AV unit, then he jumped out and drew on the police.

He drew the gun and they took him down safely with tazer, dogs (got his calf in his mouth) and other safe measures with non-lethal rounds fired into his body to cause maximum trauma.

Should I photograph the story and post it?

i don't know exactly what are SWAT but if they're like french GIGN, they're like elite cops for counter terrorism or hostages situations etc ..? if so they're highly trained to react and not "panic" in dire situations (ex: marignane plane hostages in 94 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969), gunfire in a crowded plane, all terrorists dead, no casualties in the hostages, only one serious wounded in GIGN), which is way different than a regular cop..

[Patriam1066]

i don't know exactly what are SWAT but if they're like french GIGN, they're like elite cops for counter terrorism or hostages situations etc ..? if so they're highly trained to react and not "panic" in dire situations (ex: marignane plane hostages in 94 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969), gunfire in a crowded plane, all terrorists dead, no casualties in the hostages, only one serious wounded in GIGN), which is way different than a regular cop..

SWAT isn't elite

There was a murder-suicide on my block about 4 months ago and they called SWAT. I step outside with my Australian shepherd to take him for a walk and the guy puts his ar-15 in my face and starts screaming for me to get inside. These dumb fucks didn't knock on our doors to tell us there's an active shooter and then got pissed when I tried to walk my dog

We have SWAT teams pretty much everywhere. It just means "special weapons and tactics," but in practice, they aren't any better than our normal police and are organized by the local police departments. If I were litigious I would've sued this ass hole for putting his gun in my face but I was fine telling his commander that they need to learn what the fuck they're doing before they shoot a civilian. They told me I looked suspicious. I was wearing a Dallas Cowboys shirt, am brown, and had a well groomed Australian shepherd with me. I basically looked like every Mexican in the entire state, and the cop in question was w Mexican too

Basically, American cops have no training and SWAT isn't any better

[AzzarTheGod]

SWAT isn't elite

There was a murder-suicide on my block about 4 months ago and they called SWAT. I step outside with my Australian shepherd to take him for a walk and the guy puts his ar-15 in my face and starts screaming for me to get inside. These dumb fucks didn't knock on our doors to tell us there's an active shooter and then got pissed when I tried to walk my dog

We have SWAT teams pretty much everywhere. It just means "special weapons and tactics," but in practice, they aren't any better than our normal police and are organized by the local police departments. If I were litigious I would've sued this ass hole for putting his gun in my face but I was fine telling his commander that they need to learn what the fuck they're doing before they shoot a civilian. They told me I looked suspicious. I was wearing a Dallas Cowboys shirt, am brown, and had a well groomed Australian shepherd with me. I basically looked like every Mexican in the entire state, and the cop in question was w Mexican too

Basically, American cops have no training and SWAT isn't any better

Alright I am going to photograph the entire article and ordeal (Includes a picture of the perpetrator).

This just happened yesterday so its a fresh story with an active terror suspect. The terror suspect worked at a mental hospital. He called police from the Cumberland Farms gas station and said "Get down here, I'm planning something big". The first responder was threatened and told to "Back the fuck up, I have a gun. I'm running the show." The cop complied and called for SWAT.

The perp proceeded to his car and sat in it at the gas pump, then he got out during talks with a negotiator and tried to ignite the pump with a torch lighter.

When that failed he was allowed to get back into his car. The negotiation lasted a long time. SWAT sneaked up on his car and surveyed the situation, they saw the handle of a gun on his waist. They devised a plan to assault him safely incase he was trying to shoot.

They drove 1 armored car in front of him, and one in back of him to block him safely with vantage points to assault him.

He attempted to ram the AV, that's when SWAT snuck up on him and smashed his window out and threw a stun grenade in his car. He got out disoriented and deaf, he couldn't see. The dog was sent in from a safe vantage point and tore into his leg while another sniper fired non-lethal rounds into his body, as he began to fall down he drew the gun, but he was too rocked and in such pain that SWAT was able to close the distance and fire a tazer into his body to finish him off.

That is advanced planning and tactics.

I think its relevant to this thread and since you posted this, I think the story also speaks to how there IS trained SWAT and you are making a generalization because you are angry you were mistreated.

I see some bias here.

He is in the hospital now with permanent leg wounds for the rest of his life, and non-lethal bruises and breaks in his ribs that will heal, but he is ALIVE. HE IS ALIVE. He had a breakdown and now he gets a second chance at life. They didn't have to shoot him. That's the point of the example. There are ways to handle active threats that don't result in death. And yet we are killing people for what?

[Pokesan]

SWAT isn't elite

There was a murder-suicide on my block about 4 months ago and they called SWAT. I step outside with my Australian shepherd to take him for a walk and the guy puts his ar-15 in my face and starts screaming for me to get inside. These dumb fucks didn't knock on our doors to tell us there's an active shooter and then got pissed when I tried to walk my dog

We have SWAT teams pretty much everywhere. It just means "special weapons and tactics," but in practice, they aren't any better than our normal police and are organized by the local police departments. If I were litigious I would've sued this ass hole for putting his gun in my face but I was fine telling his commander that they need to learn what the fuck they're doing before they shoot a civilian. They told me I looked suspicious. I was wearing a Dallas Cowboys shirt, am brown, and had a well groomed Australian shepherd with me. I basically looked like every Mexican in the entire state, and the cop in question was w Mexican too

Basically, American cops have no training and SWAT isn't any better

get a klondike bar tattoo so the next cop will know you're one of the good ones

[Patriam1066]

get a klondike bar tattoo so the next cop will know you're one of the good ones

Tattoos are against my religion. So are piercings, any other advice how to let them know I'm a taxpayer?

[entruil]

marching in atlanta now... helicopter feed -http://www.wsbtv.com/live-breaking2

[Pokesan]

Tattoos are against my religion. So are piercings, any other advice how to let them know I'm a taxpayer?

nope. guess you'll just have to live with cops treating you like shit because of your skin color (:

[maskedmelon]

SWAT isn't elite

There was a murder-suicide on my block about 4 months ago and they called SWAT. I step outside with my Australian shepherd to take him for a walk and the guy puts his ar-15 in my face and starts screaming for me to get inside. These dumb fucks didn't knock on our doors to tell us there's an active shooter and then got pissed when I tried to walk my dog

We have SWAT teams pretty much everywhere. It just means "special weapons and tactics," but in practice, they aren't any better than our normal police and are organized by the local police departments. If I were litigious I would've sued this ass hole for putting his gun in my face but I was fine telling his commander that they need to learn what the fuck they're doing before they shoot a civilian. They told me I looked suspicious. I was wearing a Dallas Cowboys shirt, am brown, and had a well groomed Australian shepherd with me. I basically looked like every Mexican in the entire state, and the cop in question was w Mexican too

Basically, American cops have no training and SWAT isn't any better

D: I had no idea you were a sock puppet! Very nice :cool:

[Daywolf]

taking jones seriously is identical to getting your news from mentally ill homeless people shouting at traffic.

go ahead, disprove their claims.
Right after you prove that was Jones in that video. Or is Jones really Swish thus we are all Jones except for you?

But I know what you want, you don't need to ask here again, no need for another false flag here from you. Will the real Swish please stand up? https://youtu.be/UkRY_kA2Aaw

[Pokesan]

Right after you prove that was Jones in that video. Or is Jones really Swish thus we are all Jones except for you?

But I know what you want, you don't need to ask here again, no need for another false flag here from you. Will the real Swish please stand up? https://youtu.be/UkRY_kA2Aaw

i don't negotiate with vibrating DMT elves from the mechanoverse

[Karkona]

I live in Charlotte. It still has the shadows of segregation. White people live in their own neighborhoods and blacks do the same thing. The cops are pushovers, they are too scared to even give speeding tickets. Shaking in their boots.

[AzzarTheGod]

I live in Charlotte. It still has the shadows of segregation. White people live in their own neighborhoods and blacks do the same thing. The cops are pushovers, they are too scared to even give speeding tickets. Shaking in their boots.

Figured. Southern cops (East of Texas) tend to be a bunch of do-nothings. Intimidated by the constituency for whatever reason seems to be the case.

I could own (mortgage) a fucking killer penthouse condo in Atlanta with marble floors and an elevator in it, I actually dream about it... But, Atlanta. All Barney Fife cops and the black officers are just as scared and toothless.

[Karkona]

Figured. Southern cops (East of Texas) tend to be a bunch of do-nothings. Intimidated by the constituency for whatever reason seems to be the case.

I could own (mortgage) a fucking killer penthouse condo in Atlanta with marble floors and an elevator in it, I actually dream about it... But, Atlanta. All Barney Fife cops and the black officers are just as scared and toothless.

I went around Atlanta and little bit south and I saw the Henry county police, I heard they are tough. They gave a guy a ticket for trying to put his seatbelt buckle on as he started moving his car to leave the gas station that kind of extremism made me smile, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to crack skulls with some nightsticks even sensing the slightest resistance.

[Nihilist_santa]

I went around Atlanta and little bit south and I saw the Henry county police, I heard they are tough. They gave a guy a ticket for trying to put his seatbelt buckle on as he started moving his car to leave the gas station that kind of extremism made me smile, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to crack skulls with some nightsticks even sensing the slightest resistance.

I was near the Henry county/Rockdale county line in my teens at a roadblock. A couple of cars ahead a guy in an orange truck tried to flee and was dragging a Henry county officer caught in the seat belt (door open). He hits a curb in the middle median and the cop is knocked loose and ends up being ran over pretty badly by the truck.

[Lictor]

Figured. Southern cops (East of Texas) tend to be a bunch of do-nothings. Intimidated by the constituency for whatever reason seems to be the case.

I could own (mortgage) a fucking killer penthouse condo in Atlanta with marble floors and an elevator in it, I actually dream about it... But, Atlanta. All Barney Fife cops and the black officers are just as scared and toothless.

I travel out to Hopkins, delta, hunt county and further east for hearings can confirm law enforcement rarely know what they are doing... Troopers generally know their shit though.

[AzzarTheGod]

I was near the Henry county/Rockdale county line in my teens at a roadblock. A couple of cars ahead a guy in an orange truck tried to flee and was dragging a Henry county officer caught in the seat belt (door open). He hits a curb in the middle median and the cop is knocked loose and ends up being ran over pretty badly by the truck.

Fucking hell man.

Yeah I take it all with a grain of salt, of course. But on average they don't seem to crack as many heads down there. I sensed a lot of apathy and intimidation.

[Daywolf]

i don't negotiate with vibrating DMT elves from the mechanoverse
Don't look at me! I'm not the one recently drug unconscious into a van with mechanical parts falling from between my legs :D

[Daywolf]

Speaking of the infowars youtube channel, here's Swish ... er I mean Joe Biggs commenting from the war zone in NC on the planned HRC visit for Sunday: https://youtu.be/sEPcOL-Cy9w

She is on her way to beg for the video.
hah could this all have been a stunt?? "here's that vid you told us last week to hold on for you, your Excellency Goddess Hillary" hehe

[R Flair]

She could easily show up, "negotiate" with someone, and then call Soros and tell him to stand down to lend merit to her efforts.

[Daywolf]

She could easily show up, "negotiate" with someone, and then call Soros and tell him to stand down to lend merit to her efforts.
Friggen lying wonders, eh? You betcha, she's someone's mini-me. It's going to be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. Hopefully they don't jack her up too high so that she drops before she even makes through the door.

[R Flair]

Friggen lying wonders, eh? You betcha, she's someone's mini-me. It's going to be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. Hopefully they don't jack her up too high so that she drops before she even makes through the door.

They are going to have to work hard to find the balance between high as fuck so as to not have coughing fits, and mellow enough to not act crazy. You can see her running this gambit every day. One day she can't even talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H133cTro1NQ), the next she appears so pissed she would kill puppies. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EyoKB3ZHSc)

[Daywolf]

They are going to have to work hard to find the balance between high as fuck so as to not have coughing fits, and mellow enough to not act crazy. You can see her running this gambit every day. One day she can't even talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H133cTro1NQ), the next she appears so pissed she would kill puppies. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EyoKB3ZHSc)
They found that balance, she canceled :D
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/24/whoops-hillary-clinton-cancels-planned-trip-charlotte-mayor-begs-stay-home/
The democrat mayor was unwelcoming to the idea. Anyway, if she really want's to act like a democrat POTUS, she needs to take up golf for such situations. Though an ambulance following her around on the greens could damage the course, but we all do need to make sacrifices ...preferably not human.

[R Flair]

That was probably a planned cancellation to spare her potential embarassment. The mayor would probably be glad to have her, but she's no longer physically able to make public appearances.

Now, she has nothing but private meetings and staged events because its 50/50 whether she spergs out or coughs herself to death. The fact that her rallies are constantly delayed and there is an ambulance that followers her around with a stretcher at the ready (https://youtu.be/jFsEu-LShW4?t=35) has become public knowledge so she only comes out when absolutely necessary.

[Nihilist_santa]

Video has been released of the shooting. Guy clearly has an ankle holster and something in his hands when he gets out of the vehicle. Whether he intended harm to the officers is doubtful but his refusal to comply mixed with the weapon means the cop will probably not be charged.

https://youtu.be/U7zL49wnN6s

[entruil]

yea dubious...

body cam's are just about useless... would think they could mount them like predator shoulder gun or something more practical... this clip a cell phone to your shirt pocket doesn't seem to be useful...

on the dash cam one he looks like he is backing up towards them (at least had an oppurtunity to non-lethal him) but that's probably unrealistic...

[Nihilist_santa]

watch the video at the slowest speed starting around the 15 second mark and check the guys ankle.

[entruil]

yea definately something there, i see holster outline too but im not sure if my mind is creating the shape i am looking for

can see something on dash cam too (also looked like something in his hand there)...

looks to big to be a tether-bracelet...

i realized they do have predator gun mounts from shadows too...


thanks for update

[Tradesonred]

Video has been released of the shooting. Guy clearly has an ankle holster and something in his hands when he gets out of the vehicle. Whether he intended harm to the officers is doubtful but his refusal to comply mixed with the weapon means the cop will probably not be charged.

https://youtu.be/U7zL49wnN6s

When does he refuse to comply? Im not trolling, im wondering how you came to that conclusion.

Dashcam and bodycam released

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/9/25/breaking_charlotte_police_release_two_videos

[Utanven]

Why/how is this such news...

530 dead in Chicago this year with 2 months to go (that's 1 fucking city)

No one cooperates...no self policing..snitches get stitches etc... But these relatively few (in comparison) cases need special focus / prosecutors / news conferences etc?

Still haven't seen a video where the victim fully cooperates. (Not an excuse for the outcome but shit happens when people don't know what to expect and weapons are potentially involved.

Had a cop pull his gun on me and a bunch of (white) friends as kids because my friend had a hat in his pocket...

Has no one ever seen the show cops, they deal with madness, put your fucking hands on the wheel and make them feel safe.

White people being targeted at rallies / protests, people laughing in the backround while recording... it wasn't even a white cop this time..

It almost seems like #BLM is controlled by people who wanna make blacks look bad.

[RDawg816]

They saw him with a gun in the car. He didn't exit the vehicle when asked. He only got out after they smashed his window. Even then, it looks like he was backing away to get in position to shoot.

Once shots were fired they rushed towards him and were attempting to mitigate the blood-loss. It didn't help, obviously, but they tried.

Moral of the story, if you have cops asking you to get out of the car, put the gun down, lie on the ground, etc. you need to do that. If not, things will escalate into similar scenarios as this.

I don't care if I'm guilty or innocent, if a cop asks me to do something (within reason) I'm going to do it. It's most likely not worth dying over.

[Pokesan]

bootlicking peckerwoods

[AzzarTheGod]

bootlicking peckerwoods

Ace post lol

[AzzarTheGod]

Video has been released of the shooting. Guy clearly has an ankle holster and something in his hands when he gets out of the vehicle. Whether he intended harm to the officers is doubtful but his refusal to comply mixed with the weapon means the cop will probably not be charged.

https://youtu.be/U7zL49wnN6s

This. I got a little emotional earlier about it with a friend, he reminded me that, hey, compliance isn't optional. If an officer feels threatened enough to have lethal force out, you should probably "break" yourself as they say in the hood and listen and ask what they want you to do next.

Some officers get stuck on the hands up part, and stop issuing commands while they just stare at you with their hands up. You should probably be saying "What do you want me to do now?, What now?" Instead of getting butthurt about it or feeling that you are being targeted. Its lethal fucking force afterall man.

Some of the scientists on this forum make me smile hard. Try following commands and complying instead of treating it like a chore, or taking it personal. Fix your attitude and things like this won't happen.

Its lethal force. Alas, the skulls may be too dense.

[IceCadaverX]

I'm from North Carolina. Three hours from Charlotte but still. The past two or three years have made me so ashamed of my state's government and the people living there. They've ruined the movie and film industry (a huge income for the state), damaged tourism, created incredibly controversial tension with sexual orientation and allowing discrimination and even termination in the workplace based on sexual preference (the true purpose of HB2, not the bathroom issue), and now this.

God dammit, NC, I've longed to return to you from Virginia for 17 years and things were going amazing and now this. Why you gotta make it hard to talk good about you anymore?

[Ahldagor]

I'm from North Carolina. Three hours from Charlotte but still. The past two or three years have made me so ashamed of my state's government and the people living there. They've ruined the movie and film industry (a huge income for the state), damaged tourism, created incredibly controversial tension with sexual orientation and allowing discrimination and even termination in the workplace based on sexual preference (the true purpose of HB2, not the bathroom issue), and now this.

God dammit, NC, I've longed to return to you from Virginia for 17 years and things were going amazing and now this. Why you gotta make it hard to talk good about you anymore?

Democracies get the leaders they deserve.

[Joyelle]

The past two or three years have made me so ashamed of my state's government and the people living there.

lol i've said that so many times in private conversation over the past few years. Ours is a beautiful state run by an ugly government. Here's to hoping we can get the bible-thumpers and wacko-hippies out of Raleigh soon.

[Jarnauga]

meh, it's a tough call. i don't see any guns, and he doesn't seem to try to point and shoot at any moment.

But again, i think that's the kind of reaction you get when the police has to deal with dumb gun laws where anyone can be better armed than they are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Tradesonred]

They saw him with a gun in the car. He didn't exit the vehicle when asked. He only got out after they smashed his window. Even then, it looks like he was backing away to get in position to shoot.


Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.

[Nihilist_santa]

Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.

The police were there serving a warrant. They ended up with the wrong guy but the wrong guy just so happened to be a felon in possession of a gun. I am going to assume that you have not seen the footage taken by the victim's wife. This will show how uncooperative the guy was being. The guy is surrounded by officers. They saw a gun in the vehicle. They are yelling telling him to put the gun down and exit the vehicle. This genius gets out with the gun in his hand (its in his left hand as he is backing away and the ankle holster on his right ankle). There are pictures from the scene of the gun after the shooting and the gun appears to be ready to be fired but that is speculation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXmaqfG58U

I like how recently rappers like Kevin Gates are speaking out against groups like BLM. Gates is a convicted felon and he states basically anytime he was messed with by the cops its because he was being a *radio edit*. He said change your attitude and you wont have any problem with the cops. Gates is a Muslim also if I recall. He has an interesting view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlWMunmMwqo

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good post

The police were there serving a warrant. They ended up with the wrong guy... The guy is surrounded by officers. They saw a gun in the vehicle. ... This genius gets out with the gun in his hand ...


change your attitude and you wont have any problem with the cops.


This is what a police state looks like.

they showed up and killed him for sitting in his car smoking a blunt?

was he at address where warrant was served or really just waiting on a bus... how can i find this out...*he was in front of complex

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Relations_Service in full swing apparently....

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

everyone should definately learn how to interact with law enforcement and show respect... being rude is a sure fire way to get harrassed at least and murdered at the worst...

[Tradesonred]

The police were there serving a warrant. They ended up with the wrong guy but the wrong guy just so happened to be a felon in possession of a gun. I am going to assume that you have not seen the footage taken by the victim's wife. This will show how uncooperative the guy was being. The guy is surrounded by officers. They saw a gun in the vehicle. They are yelling telling him to put the gun down and exit the vehicle. This genius gets out with the gun in his hand (its in his left hand as he is backing away and the ankle holster on his right ankle). There are pictures from the scene of the gun after the shooting and the gun appears to be ready to be fired but that is speculation.

The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady. It might or might not be an ankle holster at his feet but the picture ive seen is very blurry. What ive seen is a guy not pointing a gun at cops, hands on his side, being riddled with bullets.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting. I raised my voice a little to let passersby know that this cop was hurting me for no reason.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.

[Nihilist_santa]

The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in the court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.

Did you watch that Kevin Gates video I linked? It might help put into perspective your current and past experiences with law enforcement.

[AzzarTheGod]

Did you watch that Kevin Gates video I linked? It might help put into perspective your current and past experiences with law enforcement.

The SJWs are out in force on that one. Could feel the tension on the Asian interviewer who likely knows fuck-all about the situation. Gates handled it well "if you want to be right, I'll agree w/ you"... But who has more experience here.

I imagine tradesonred much the same.

[RDawg816]

Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.
Did you watch the wife's video? How many times did she say to get out the car and don't let them break the window? Then she changes her tune to "don't you do it." Clearly she's talking to her husband. I don't care that you have an issue with cops, and I'm not here to change your opinion.

If you ask me, she's just as bad as he was. Her husband gets shot in front of her and all she does is say "he better not be dead..." over and over while continuing to argue with the police. That's the thug life right there.

I'm not saying I'm glad he got shot, but I am saying it's his own fault. He had plenty of time to do what they asked. The longer he resists the itchier those trigger fingers get. Why tempt fate? That's just dumb.

[AzzarTheGod]

This. I got a little emotional earlier about it with a friend, he reminded me that, hey, compliance isn't optional. If an officer feels threatened enough to have lethal force out, you should probably "break" yourself as they say in the hood and listen and ask what they want you to do next.

Some officers get stuck on the hands up part, and stop issuing commands while they just stare at you with their hands up. You should probably be saying "What do you want me to do now?, What now?" Instead of getting butthurt about it or feeling that you are being targeted. Its lethal fucking force afterall man.

Some of the scientists on this forum make me smile hard. Try following commands and complying instead of treating it like a chore, or taking it personal. Fix your attitude and things like this won't happen.


Since we are reposting, just reloading again.

Any time someone doesn't read the thread, I'll start doing it in an attempt to correct the course of the discussion so we don't have to read the same shit that was just posted on the previous page.

I encourage the other regulars to get involved with this new movement.

Reposters not welcome

[Patriam1066]

The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady. It might or might not be an ankle holster at his feet but the picture ive seen is very blurry. What ive seen is a guy not pointing a gun at cops, hands on his side, being riddled with bullets.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting. I raised my voice a little to let passersby know that this cop was hurting me for no reason.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.

"I'm black, I played loud music in public and talked back when a cop asked me to stop and as a result got fined $400. I don't understand why I can't act like a child and not be treated like one."

None of you get it. You're entitled, talk in movie theaters, and generally annoying as fuck. Good thing God invented basketball

[Tradesonred]

"I'm black, I played loud music in public and talked back when a cop asked me to stop and as a result got fined $400. I don't understand why I can't act like a child and not be treated like one."

None of you get it. You're entitled, talk in movie theaters, and generally annoying as fuck. Good thing God invented basketball

Thats exactly what i mean when i say ideological blinders. People see what they want to see.

This dumbshit thinks im black because ive got a picture of Mace Windu

When a cop tells him to jump, he says "How high" like a good slave

[Patriam1066]

Thats exactly what i mean when i say ideological blinders. People see what they want to see.

This dumbshit thinks im black because ive got a picture of Mace Windu

When a cop tells him to jump, he says "How high" like a good slave

If you had a father, he would've told you to comply when cops tell you to do something. Enjoy that $400 fine mace dindu!

And your low IQ / entitled responses made me think you're black. But I suppose you could be a millenial. Y'all are similarly entitled and believe the world revolves around you. In the real world, cops do a shitty job where anyone could be armed and on PCP, a terrorist, etc

That's why they ask you to comply. It lets them know they aren't about to be shot. And when that cop in Montreal asked you to turn off your radio edit music (in all likelihood because some Frenchmen called in to complain), you made his life harder by resisting. You could've just considered his humanity and the position he was put in, but you instead thought that the world revolved around yourself and it was his job to serve you. It isn't. We live in a community and you're just a cog like he is. Fall in line maggot

[maskedmelon]

Fall in line maggot


Mostly this. There is something wrong with you if you aren't uncomfortable when approached on suspicion by leo. Doesn't matter what color you are. Being belligerent to anyone who has the capacity to end for life is just stupid.

There are certainly bad cops, but it is unreasonable to argue most or even many are bad. All institutions of power will suffer to adverse selection to some degree, but standing on that as a reason to protest reasonable direction is just stupid. It is not only a disservice to the many ordinary leo out there, but also to also to those you represent by souring perception of them, whether they are your family, friends, coworkers, or whomever.

[R Flair]

As soon as police lose their ability enforce the law and kill armed suspects failing to comply, our society becomes an anarchy and safe for no one.

[AzzarTheGod]

Since we are reposting, just reloading again.

Any time someone doesn't read the thread, I'll start doing it in an attempt to correct the course of the discussion so we don't have to read the same shit that was just posted on the previous page.

I encourage the other regulars to get involved with this new movement.

Reposters not welcome

Oops double repost

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lol... expected more petey pablo

*dont click-it's editted at leastPetey Pablo - Raise Up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8)dont click-it's editted at least*

pretty horrible music ... yw for share...


well... what did YOU guys expect?.... peace

[Tradesonred]

Mostly this. There is something wrong with you if you aren't uncomfortable when approached on suspicion by leo. Doesn't matter what color you are. Being belligerent to anyone who has the capacity to end for life is just stupid.


So asking a cop to identify himself is being belligerent. Thats why the US is in trouble, so many bootlickers.

Ill win that ticket in court by the way, the cop probably knew that. He just wanted an excuse to get me in the car because i dared to ask him his name

[Nihilist_santa]

So asking a cop to identify himself is being belligerent. Thats why the US is in trouble, so many bootlickers.

Ill win that ticket in court by the way, the cop probably knew that. He just wanted an excuse to get me in the car because i dared to ask him his name

You really showed him I bet he will think twice about wasting some punks precious time again, amirite? Did you know they put their badge number on the ticket? No need to ask its right there so they can identify the officer giving the citation.

[maskedmelon]

So asking a cop to identify himself is being belligerent. Thats why the US is in trouble, so many bootlickers.

Ill win that ticket in court by the way, the cop probably knew that. He just wanted an excuse to get me in the car because i dared to ask him his name

Sure it is ^^ This is what you essentially said:

"I feel you have abused your authority to wrong me, so I plan to invoke what measure of authority I have to retaliate," or did you plan to send him a Christmas card?

Antagonizing people in authority is stupid, unless you are doing so purposefully as part of a greater strategy in a battle you are certain you'll win. You either knew what you were doing, pressing an issue you felt strongly about in which case you should have expected the result you got, or you are stupid.

Generally, if you comply, you don't get shit results. This is what normal people do. Some leo, like people in general, are just asses. It's not always about one's genetic make-up, political ideology or hairstyle. But guess what? Sometimes it may be. The vast majority of the time it's your response that determines whether or not things escalate though.

The greatest disservice to people of color in the US is propagation of this absurd idea of institutional racism, because it causes more people to be suspicious of leo and not comply which leads to more bad outcomes. It's a self-perpetuating cycle.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

So asking a cop to identify himself is being belligerent. Thats why the US is in trouble, so many bootlickers.

Ill win that ticket in court by the way, the cop probably knew that. He just wanted an excuse to get me in the car because i dared to ask him his name

I'm with you bro. The police state needs to end. Oppression by the police is disgusting

[Tradesonred]

Sure it is ^^ This is what you essentially said:

"I feel you have abused your authority to wrong me, so I plan to invoke what measure of authority I have to retaliate," or did you plan to send him a Christmas card?

Antagonizing people in authority is stupid, unless you are doing so purposefully as part of a greater strategy in a battle you are certain you'll win. You either knew what you were doing, pressing an issue you felt strongly about in which case you should have expected the result you got, or you are stupid.


I was asking him his name, he had just detained my friend for frivolous reasons. We know were gonna win this in court, thats why i wanted his name. Thats what the ticket was for, not for anything thats actually written on the ticket. For having the audacity to ask his name after an arbitrary arrest. The punishment is not the fine, which well demolish in court. Its the process. 2 hours from the car to being out of the police station, metal handcuffs too tight. Having to write down everything that just happened so you wont forget it when you go to court a year or 2 later. Wasting half a day in court, preparing for it. They use this all the time to discourage people from protesting.

Im not sure how exactly it works in the states, but in Montreal its in their deontology code. Cant disrespect people, have to give their identities when asked, cant act in a manner that makes citizens lose faith in police work.
Still its like Georgie said, "the constitution is just a piece of paper". Its all theory, in practice none of this is taken seriously and at most theyll receive a slap on the wrist for making up false charges.

[AzzarTheGod]

You really showed him I bet he will think twice about wasting some punks precious time again, amirite? Did you know they put their badge number on the ticket? No need to ask its right there so they can identify the officer giving the citation.

state PD is afraid to cut me a ticket. this trooper sliced (literally physically destroyed a piece of the ticket) in order to remove his name from the print-out for the ticket. That's how much white privilege I have and the kind of car I am driving. He gouged a hole out with this fingers in the middle of the paper.

I smiled knowingly at how much of a boss I am and how much status I throw off. My car isn't even registered in his state, and he still felt the need to remove his name with his fingers by physically tearing a circle out of it.

I got a pic of it I might post later

"n-edit we made it" - drake

everything drake raps about in his victory songs I am pretty much living. pic to follow.

[Tradesonred]

You really showed him I bet he will think twice about wasting some punks precious time again, amirite? Did you know they put their badge number on the ticket? No need to ask its right there so they can identify the officer giving the citation.

Because cops always do things by the book, right

Fucking bootlickers

Thats whats funny about these alt-conservative types, their self-image is one of rebelliousness, not gonna take that PC bullshit attitude but thats basically what they are, bootlickers

[maskedmelon]

What wrong with licking boot? I never been in jail, or handcuffed or in the back of a cop car. I lick boot. I have no problems and yes, I have encountered some asshole leo. Guess what happens when they think you aren't a threat or that they got one over on you? You go about your day instead of taking notes about stupid shit you'll need to explain to a judge in a year.

[AzzarTheGod]

What wrong with licking boot? I never been in jail, or handcuffed or in the back of a cop car. I lick boot. I have no problems and yes, I have encountered some asshole leo. Guess what happens when they think you aren't a threat or that they got one over on you? You go about your day instead of taking notes about stupid shit you'll need to explain to a judge in a year.

I lick boot. Ride the wave. :cool: