There Is So Much Dust, But Is It Life Threatening? (pics)

[AzzarTheGod]

So I have gathered some samples the past week to illustrate. Bare in mind this is big-city dust, this isn't household dust. It contains everything that goes along with big-city contaminants, mostly rubber and silicone and brake pad material.

This is a building with 225 separate units. Within 25 feet in any direction, I have up to 6 units immediately above and below me in my vicinity with fully carpeted hallways throughout the building.

The bedrooms are fully carpeted with no plans to change that (noise reduction measure, but the rest of the units are hardwood and tile outside of that.)

Its simply not enough. And the hallways being carpeted to me, is a huge "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE" red flag. The square footage of carpeting in the building probably amounts to up to 80-90 units as far as square footage goes. Its A LOT of carpeting, and its permanently installed (No carpet change in 5 years that I have seen)



Windowsil, probably the most blackest dust. The windowsill sits in front of the central circulator.

Dust accumulation rate, unknown. Assumed to be high but no data.


http://i.imgur.com/n0SSwsV.jpg





A kitchen area countertop (top of microwave/fridge) buildup of dust in this area was noted to only take 5 days after a full wipe. (Not like the picture, but it will have NOTICABLE-TO-THE-EYE surface dust buildup after just 5-7 days)

Too much accumulation? Unhealthy?

http://i.imgur.com/a6MWz5z.jpg




Average object, all objects become covered with dust. Time frame unknown. Even high-use areas become covered in dust within a matter of weeks. Needless to say wiping off objects every week isn't exactly top priority for a young guy, I am not a housewife or a maid and I'm already not allocating enough time into the stuff I need to be doing.

http://i.imgur.com/Qex5eGc.jpg





I need air filter suggestions in the meantime as my health and allergies have been on the decline (busted red eyes every day, being harassed by police, asthma) which I never 3 years ago. Eczema and contact dermatitis, which I never had 3-4 years ago with no prior history of skin problems ever. Not even acne.

So I saw this one advertised on wired.com https://airmega.com/shop/

Its in the price range, but I just want to make sure I am getting the most bang for the buck. The review looked solid, but if anyone else has a filter they prefer or use (REGARDLESS OF COST) please provide some input here.

My nose is running as I type this. Help. Advise. Dictate.

[AzzarTheGod]

You guys probably want to see a picture of the vacuum container after 1 vacuum sweep huh? And the reason I demanded to know where I could obtain a vacuum that has a disposable bag.

Morbid curiosity anyone? I have a fresh canister I haven't emptied yet (because its legitimately unsafe to empty, I almost caught pneumonia last time I am pretty sure)

[big_ole_jpn]

obamma a commie and your worried about this

[AzzarTheGod]

im dyin duke n trying to save my life here.

what I learned is that none of u guys live in the big city. its all suburban and faux-city dwellers on these forums, living in duplexs at best

If we go by the lack of input on dust abatement techniques and filter strategies on the last thread regarding this.

maybe when im dead n gone u will care.

[skarlorn]

Dust : can't live with it
Cannot live without it

[maskedmelon]

If you are published will you ever share your pen name with us? ^^

[big_ole_jpn]

im dyin duke n trying to save my life here.

what I learned is that none of u guys live in the big city. its all suburban and faux-city dwellers on these forums, living in duplexs at best

If we go by the lack of input on dust abatement techniques and filter strategies on the last thread regarding this.

maybe when im dead n gone u will care.

i lived in the city until i learned to make the same amount remotely and never had dust problems. just vacuum semi regularly.

dont be a baboon and u wont find urself up a tree

[maskedmelon]

Maybe don't wear shoes inside either. I know dust on everything else is your concern, but don't imagine it helps tracking outside debris all over your floor :/ Looks like you wearing a boot in the first pic. Get slippers or an extra pair of socks to wear around the house if your feet cold ^^

[AzzarTheGod]

i lived in the city until i learned to make the same amount remotely and never had dust problems. just vacuum semi regularly.

dont be a baboon and u wont find urself up a tree

knowledge god

[AzzarTheGod]

Maybe don't wear shoes inside either. I know dust on everything else is your concern, but don't imagine it helps tracking outside debris all over your floor :/ Looks like you wearing a boot in the first pic. Get slippers or an extra pair of socks to wear around the house if your feet cold ^^

lol yeah the ((((())))))'s won't let us keep floor mats outside the doors in the hallway. So we cant even wipe our feet. We track the garage pavement with the car parts directly into the carpets that haven't been changed in a decade.

If 0bama was really doing something helpful he would have legislated against carpeted hallways in public buildings, especially over 1 year nevermind 5+ years and running. That's how I know hes a huge loser. Where is the executive order? Bring home the bacon. We voted you in, and you just turn your back on us.

Some guy had a nice Welcome mat at the end of the hallway (No other units in the vicinity) and they made him get rid of it. Someone had a Welcome holiday wreath for Halloween spirit, and they made him get rid of it. No spirit allowed.

[AzzarTheGod]

Another woman had a "welcome neighbor" stamp she placed on her door (Shes a nice Sanderly woman, all about social welfare and the like) and I smiled knowingly, she was in for a big surprise phone call in the coming days.

The stamp is now gone.

Better up the dose of antidepressants :)

[georgie]

Clean ur dusty ass ceiling fan

[AzzarTheGod]

Maybe don't wear shoes inside either. I know dust on everything else is your concern, but don't imagine it helps tracking outside debris all over your floor :/ Looks like you wearing a boot in the first pic. Get slippers or an extra pair of socks to wear around the house if your feet cold ^^

Its just the lighting. its a boat shoe.

http://i.imgur.com/xs0HmJt.jpg

[skarlorn]

Living with Asian chicks taught me two things:

Shoes inside is filthy. Don't do it.

I can fit up to three hundred grains of rice in my mouth at any moment.

[Trollhide]

Sorry you live in a disgusting hovel, op ;)

[Pokesan]

get rid of your skin and you won't have so much dust

[maskedmelon]

get rid of your skin and you won't have so much dust

Pretty sure he's said before that he's already done this and was unhappy about it. Don't really see how it would help here though.

[AzzarTheGod]

carpeted hallways are the enemy. I notice blue-ish tinge and fibers in the collections of dust, no matter where the dust is. It all has this blue tinge to it.

Years ago a girl actually thought it was indicative of someone ( someone, being another girl?!?! lol she was such a damaged psycho glad the weird accusations and cheating stuff is over with) else having been in the apartment. I finally figured it out.

I have lived in 2 different units here, both had this blue dust that would collect in the bathtub (in one of the unused bathrooms), on the toilet top, and other unused areas.

I have nothing blue in my apartment. Lo and behold, guess what is blue? The carpeting throughout the hallways throughout the entire building. Dark navy blue.

[entruil]

what have you done for air purification... from what i read before water is the most effective means of removing shit from air, but you need to maximize the surface area of the water that contacts the air contaminants...

if you are willing to spend big bucks then do some research but on the cheap I would just get a fan, a fish tank bubbler/pump/air thing and a tub of water...


in a big complex like that I imagine that you have boiler/radiating heat?

if forced air then there are some options with filters but doubt it applies....


daily cleaning probably will have the best results though no matter what...

If it were me I'd definately be looking for a better place to live, or invest in some hazmat suits...

[Pokesan]

cut off your skin

[big_ole_jpn]

cut yourself you little freak cut yourself for me

[entruil]

alright


*what do I do now?

[big_ole_jpn]

post pics

[entruil]

http://i.imgur.com/fL025Hr.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/5tstSE7.jpg

[big_ole_jpn]

I wouldnt go to Mars or the moon cuz I don't think the air filtration systems could cope with all the weed I am prescribed to smoke to treat my emotional pain

[AzzarTheGod]

what have you done for air purification... from what i read before water is the most effective means of removing shit from air, but you need to maximize the surface area of the water that contacts the air contaminants...

if you are willing to spend big bucks then do some research but on the cheap I would just get a fan, a fish tank bubbler/pump/air thing and a tub of water...


in a big complex like that I imagine that you have boiler/radiating heat?

if forced air then there are some options with filters but doubt it applies....


daily cleaning probably will have the best results though no matter what...

If it were me I'd definately be looking for a better place to live, or invest in some hazmat suits...

Yeah I am not resigning a new lease. Its too much to deal with. Just spent 1k on some air filter recommendations I got from this forum.

Pakistanis have moved in, so time to go. The whole shouting thing they do is obnoxious. Constant shouting tone, constant contrived laughter like evil HA HA HA HA ACKBAR schtick (that's basically what it sounds like, like a violent Tom Cruise on drugs except with a deep Arabic voice and pure venom running through his veins).

Its like yea dude calm down, we respect your testosterone level and dominance, chill out.

I need a remote gig. or just suck it up and start commuting. My friend did 2.5 hours of commute back and forth for 2 years, total of 4 hours average on bad days. I shook my head but a few years later he changed jobs 4 times, worked his way up the food chain, and he pushes a benz now.

I needa holler at tha god grand Nippon 4 about that remote action. don't care if I lose luxury at this point, im kinda done with all that. did the jewels n the cars and the drugs and drinks in my 20's and already got my piece of the rap life. Basically spent 3-4 hundred racks (legit ran thru 300k+). Im too woke 4 them games. Its nice if youre a billionaire, but im still working class.

Also this kid sprays febreeze and poisons the air with that shit. That stuff is loaded with carcinogens and its against the rules here listed in the lease. But these guys don't respect rules. that shit has killed kids in their crib.

cant wait to tell the owner all about the paki problem when I tender my resignation (60 day notice of intent to vacate)

[AzzarTheGod]

I know a lot of nerds cant relate. but I could legit mop the floor with this disrespectful rat.

its tough not being able to do that due to law enforcement/society. Theres people who need a good bell-ringing, and this kid will never get it.

[StocktonRZ]

If you're willing to pay to get the stuff lab tested, there's a high likelihood that--even if it's only carpet fibers, as most carpets these days are laced with industrial chemical agents--it will wind up having a level of an EPA-regulated contaminant that exceeds the regulatory limit. Then, depending to an extent on where you live, you should have a lot of leverage via tenants' laws and city ordinances on your side. I know a few people who have done this with household dust samples in new construction buildings to get out of leases they were unhappy with.

[AzzarTheGod]

If you're willing to pay to get the stuff lab tested, there's a high likelihood that--even if it's only carpet fibers, as most carpets these days are laced with industrial chemical agents--it will wind up having a level of an EPA-regulated contaminant that exceeds the regulatory limit. Then, depending to an extent on where you live, you should have a lot of leverage via tenants' laws and city ordinances on your side. I know a few people who have done this with household dust samples in new construction buildings to get out of leases they were unhappy with.


Very helpful post. Got a nice big sample from the toilet cover of blue fibers.

Will google it

[big_ole_jpn]

ya big stockton woke AF

[Begather]

So I have gathered some samples the past week to illustrate. Bare in mind this is big-city dust, this isn't household dust. It contains everything that goes along with big-city contaminants, mostly rubber and silicone and brake pad material.

This is a building with 225 separate units. Within 25 feet in any direction, I have up to 6 units immediately above and below me in my vicinity with fully carpeted hallways throughout the building.

The bedrooms are fully carpeted with no plans to change that (noise reduction measure, but the rest of the units are hardwood and tile outside of that.)

Its simply not enough. And the hallways being carpeted to me, is a huge "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE" red flag. The square footage of carpeting in the building probably amounts to up to 80-90 units as far as square footage goes. Its A LOT of carpeting, and its permanently installed (No carpet change in 5 years that I have seen)



Windowsil, probably the most blackest dust. The windowsill sits in front of the central circulator.

Dust accumulation rate, unknown. Assumed to be high but no data.


http://i.imgur.com/n0SSwsV.jpg





A kitchen area countertop (top of microwave/fridge) buildup of dust in this area was noted to only take 5 days after a full wipe. (Not like the picture, but it will have NOTICABLE-TO-THE-EYE surface dust buildup after just 5-7 days)

Too much accumulation? Unhealthy?

http://i.imgur.com/a6MWz5z.jpg




Average object, all objects become covered with dust. Time frame unknown. Even high-use areas become covered in dust within a matter of weeks. Needless to say wiping off objects every week isn't exactly top priority for a young guy, I am not a housewife or a maid and I'm already not allocating enough time into the stuff I need to be doing.

http://i.imgur.com/Qex5eGc.jpg





I need air filter suggestions in the meantime as my health and allergies have been on the decline (busted red eyes every day, being harassed by police, asthma) which I never 3 years ago. Eczema and contact dermatitis, which I never had 3-4 years ago with no prior history of skin problems ever. Not even acne.

So I saw this one advertised on wired.com https://airmega.com/shop/

Its in the price range, but I just want to make sure I am getting the most bang for the buck. The review looked solid, but if anyone else has a filter they prefer or use (REGARDLESS OF COST) please provide some input here.

My nose is running as I type this. Help. Advise. Dictate.

You should use rug doctor (http://www.wordsiseek.com/rug-doctor-reviews/) or carpet cleaner / carpet steamer for this because it is so horrible to see such kind of dirt on the carpet. And yes it is kind of life threatening and can cause serious health problems.

[AzzarTheGod]

You should use rug doctor (http://www.wordsiseek.com/rug-doctor-reviews/) or carpet cleaner / carpet steamer for this because it is so horrible to see such kind of dirt on the carpet. And yes it is kind of life threatening and can cause serious health problems.

Yeah I basically have a small bit of fluid in my lung/throat area (typical allergy area) for about 6-8 hours a day. Causes nonstop need to clear throat a bit every 20 mins or so.

I got these air filters but with the rate of collection and the viscosity of the dust itself, I'm wondering if this isn't a lost cause.

[Jarnauga]

Chemtrails obv

I read on infowars about this

You're basically sterile

[Blingy]

Just came across this post. As somebody that also has bad reactions to this crap I feel for you.

Suggestions going forward are to do what you're doing, move the hell out. When checking out new places go for hardwood floors (even the fake wood, just know that bamboo is very loud).

Also find a place that has central forced air. Depending on where you live this may be difficult. If the apartment manager replaces the filters ask them if they'd be willing to get an electrostatic filter or if not go purchase your own. Get one from an actual allergy website and skip the big box store crap....this includes amazon.com. You can also get a disposable high MERV air filter. I use to buy MERV 13 filters that were wonderful but a 3 year supply was more expensive a single MERV 13 electrostatic.

Once you have the right air filters in your central air system try and run a fan for at least a few hours a day. A good system will give you the option to just turn the fan on without having the heater or ac going. Moving dirty air through a good air filter will help out a lot. No it won't be a magic miracle but every bit helps.

Look for a place that has a ceiling fan in some central location if your new place is over 1000 square feet. If not a ceiling fan then a good HEPA filter or two in the far reaches of your new place will serve the same purpose.

Chances are you've looked into the Pledge or other type of dust cloth things. If you do use them throw that crap out. The chemicals in those things make my entire family sound like 2 pack a day smokers. They also makes my son and I look like our skin is melting. Rather go get some microfiber rags and make your own. If you have a Costco membership you can get a huge package of these for cheap. Now make your own dusting solution that fits what scent you prefer. Mine is 2 cups water, 1 tablespoon white vinegar, 1 teaspoon olive oil and 1 teaspoon lemon juice. Depending on how dirty your city is you may simply need to dust once a week.

[Baler]

Chemtrails obv

I read on infowars about this

You're basically sterile

They seed the air with disease and eggs of parasites.

Why do you think airplanes leave streaks in the sky.
http://i.imgur.com/5Z5ACR3.jpg
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[AzzarTheGod]

Just came across this post. As somebody that also has bad reactions to this crap I feel for you.

Suggestions going forward are to do what you're doing, move the hell out. When checking out new places go for hardwood floors (even the fake wood, just know that bamboo is very loud).

Also find a place that has central forced air. Depending on where you live this may be difficult. If the apartment manager replaces the filters ask them if they'd be willing to get an electrostatic filter or if not go purchase your own. Get one from an actual allergy website and skip the big box store crap....this includes amazon.com. You can also get a disposable high MERV air filter. I use to buy MERV 13 filters that were wonderful but a 3 year supply was more expensive a single MERV 13 electrostatic.

Once you have the right air filters in your central air system try and run a fan for at least a few hours a day. A good system will give you the option to just turn the fan on without having the heater or ac going. Moving dirty air through a good air filter will help out a lot. No it won't be a magic miracle but every bit helps.

Look for a place that has a ceiling fan in some central location if your new place is over 1000 square feet. If not a ceiling fan then a good HEPA filter or two in the far reaches of your new place will serve the same purpose.

Chances are you've looked into the Pledge or other type of dust cloth things. If you do use them throw that crap out. The chemicals in those things make my entire family sound like 2 pack a day smokers. They also makes my son and I look like our skin is melting. Rather go get some microfiber rags and make your own. If you have a Costco membership you can get a huge package of these for cheap. Now make your own dusting solution that fits what scent you prefer. Mine is 2 cups water, 1 tablespoon white vinegar, 1 teaspoon olive oil and 1 teaspoon lemon juice. Depending on how dirty your city is you may simply need to dust once a week.

No time to highlight anything in this post atm by item, so just going to reply in general. But want to say it helped learn about different filters (more than just HEPA) and ways to optimize filtration (because I am guessing at this point I am going to have to live a life with absolutely no dust exposure no matter where I go now, the damage is done) I'd be too old not to use a setup like this regardless now.

About the dusting, yeah that's basically what happened (as well as an extremely high rate of dust collection per day) And not dusting for months on end = big problem. I'm working on getting contact seals for the door which seems critical to disallowing more dust inside.

I have clothing storage that I can't even move because its covered in dust and you can't really remove dust from clothing. I have no idea how to approach that besides get a really strong vacuum and start with that...obviously vacuuming the clothes isn't going to get all the dust off since its so insidious since its been allowed to collect and increase its own viscosity.

[maskedmelon]

Get new clothes! ^^

[AzzarTheGod]

Get new clothes! ^^

If you saw how much I'd spent on clothes yearly for about 2-3 years (5 years ago now) you would hang yourself. I decided Im never getting new clothes for another few years.

At least I think I will be able to salvage my leather jacket. I figure the leather surface won't allow the dust to really sink and attach and its going to be the easiest piece of clothing to rescue from the "dust pile"

I call it the dust pile because its basically where all the dust has decided to collect.

[maskedmelon]

If you saw how much I'd spent on clothes yearly for about 2-3 years (5 years ago now) you would hang yourself. I decided Im never getting new clothes for another few years.

At least I think I will be able to salvage my leather jacket. I figure the leather surface won't allow the dust to really sink and attach and its going to be the easiest piece of clothing to rescue from the "dust pile"

I call it the dust pile because its basically where all the dust has decided to collect.

Sunk cost ^^ I wouldnt fret over it. Just means you have a lot of shopping to do. Silver lining to the dust cloud ^^

[AzzarTheGod]

Sunk cost ^^ I wouldnt fret over it. Just means you have a lot of shopping to do. Silver lining to the dust cloud ^^

Yeah for some reason I have been becoming a real (((shrewd))) person lately.

I thought it was a good thing, but its been becoming a real complex, and fret would definitely be the operative word-- at minimum.

My mother did test positive recently for the (((Chosen))) people (Kinda figured that with her grandfathers wife's maiden name being Mossberg, so it might just be in my nature.

Albeit an extremely low percent, talking like 2-5% was passed on. I can fight it.

[maskedmelon]

Yeah for some reason I have been becoming a real (((shrewd))) person lately.

I thought it was a good thing, but its been becoming a real complex, and fret would definitely be the operative word-- at minimum.

My mother did test positive recently for the (((Chosen))) people (Kinda figured that with her grandfathers wife's maiden name being Mossberg, so it might just be in my nature.

Albeit an extremely low percent, talking like 2-5% was passed on. I can fight it.

Oh..


Well, if you want to be (((schrewd))) about it, sell what you can online, donate the rest to Goodwill taking the full value write-off and then put the proceeds and 'untaxed' (from decreased liability) portion of your income towards your new purchases ^^

No guilt! ^^