Luclin Graphics

[Nastorian]

I was just curious if you can use Luclin graphics or has it still been done away with still?

[Dreenk317]

You used to be able to turn them on in options. Then they patched that out. Someone came up with a work around but I'm not sure if it still works or where to find it. I'm sure some forum searching would turn it up though.

[skarlorn]

By the Grace of the God Emperor and his Acolytes, Luclin models are disabled on project 1999. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttEMYvpoR-k)

[Zaela]

One workaround was done away with, at least one other workaround still works.

PM me if you want me to copy and paste a standard spiel of instructions at you.

[Computer Man]

Luclin models give an unfair advantage in the game, I hope that encouraging people to cheat is being monitored.

[Dreenk317]

Luclin models give an unfair advantage in the game, I hope that encouraging people to cheat is being monitored.

An unfair advantage because ogres can now run around sol without having to be ducked the whole time? Or an unfair advantage because now it's harder to body block people in FTE races? I've never really understood why people think it's an "unfair" advantage. Just turn them on for yourself and then there is no advantage (if there really even is one to begin with)

[Sporkotron]

An unfair advantage because ogres can now run around sol without having to be ducked the whole time? Or an unfair advantage because now it's harder to body block people in FTE races? I've never really understood why people think it's an "unfair" advantage. Just turn them on for yourself and then there is no advantage (if there really even is one to begin with)

It seems like you don't grasp the concept of what constitutes an advantage.

[Zaela]

As I posted back when the globalload change happened, it would be really, really easy to block the current workaround. The canonical globalload.txt has a line where globalpcfroglok_chr.s3d is loaded. To show LoY froglok models. These aren't classic. The workaround depends on this line being there for the models to animate at all (it's the only one with the right settings in the TTFF part). It's unlikely anyone would put up with Luclin models that are stuck in their ragdoll pose 100% of the time.

It's been a year and a half since that was pointed out. I don't think the devs care very much about this issue. Plus when they did make the globalload change, they did not say anything about it. If they came out and unambiguously said "Luclin models are against the rules," I'd stop giving out the workaround (not that it would be relevant if they spent 30 seconds or so editing the canonical globalload file to cripple it). But as long as their stance isn't available anywhere noticeable, banning anyone for using the workaround would seem a bit unfair. So for the time being, it's out there for those who want it.

They can ban me if they ever come around to it. I've played p99 for all of 5 hours or so. I don't even like Luclin models, personally. I just know a bit about EQ's data formats, and the only thing that is good for is making little tools.

[Lulz|Sect]

mandatory reading

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50907

[Dreenk317]

It seems like you don't grasp the concept of what constitutes an advantage.

I'm very confused by this....
An advantage is something that one person has that another doesn't, and that gives them some sort of edge over the person that doesn't. How does someone enabling luclin graphics give them an advantage? Seriously, I want to know, everyone has always said this yet I've never heard a good argument. Also, how would it be an advantage when ALL players could turn them on?

[Zekayy]

Not Classic so it was changed

[Landael]

whats the difference between oldworld armor and velious armor with Luclin models?

[Takii Huggles]

I'm sure the elemental Luclin graphics work because I had to turn them off under options at log in when i first started ;).

[Izmael]

Playing EQ with Luclin models is like eating a sandwich with sand.

[Ikon]

I'm very confused by this....
An advantage is something that one person has that another doesn't, and that gives them some sort of edge over the person that doesn't. How does someone enabling luclin graphics give them an advantage? Seriously, I want to know, everyone has always said this yet I've never heard a good argument. Also, how would it be an advantage when ALL players could turn them on?
I believe the luclin graphics allowed certain things to be reached and other size related because of the differences in the size of the models involved.

[katrik]

Playing EQ with Luclin models is like eating a sandwich with sand.

[Lhancelot]

...eating a sandwich with sand.

Part of the charm when having a picnic on the beach!

[Dreenk317]

I believe the luclin graphics allowed certain things to be reached and other size related because of the differences in the size of the models involved.

Ok, I can see that. But I'd still argue it's not much of an advantage. At least not on this server. If there is an FTE where being small is an advantage you damn well know that every poopsocker guild out there has a bunch of small race racers on the line, already. And if your somewhere where it is an advantage. Camp out, enable graphics, log back in and un-enable when it's no longer an advantage. I just don't get why it's so "gamebreaking" and don't get me wrong. I enjoy the classic graphics. Just don't get why those that don't can't play with luclin graphics if they want.

[CheeseRoll]

By the power of google and p99 forums I give you

Luclin Graphics

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1995484#post1995484

[Sorn]

whats the difference between oldworld armor and velious armor with Luclin models?

Old world armor was successfully transitioned to Luclin models. Velious armor was NOT adapted properly. There was a project for it that was nixed before completion in favor of EQ2 development. The Velious armor tends to disappear into the geometry of the Luclin models.

I will now show you my druid on live with the Luclin model + Velious textures so you can share my horror. His BP is a crystal chitin chestguard, aka Velious plate, while his legs and gloves are high elf cultural chain, feet are coldain skin boots, and wrist is a serpentine bracer (old world textures chain, leather, and plate respectively).

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Needless to say, I have the classic models enabled on live for fashionquest purposes :P

[Kohedron]

Classic elementals >>>>>>>>>>>> Lucklin elementals and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

[Dreenk317]

Classic elementals >>>>>>>>>>>> Lucklin elementals and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

This is 100% true. The classic elementals are actually, how do you say it, elemental?

[Zekayy]

Classic elementals >>>>>>>>>>>> Lucklin elementals and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

[Evia]

This is 100% true. The classic elementals are actually, how do you say it, elemental?


No way. They're headless and uninspired. The only good new model luclin did give us was the elementals.

[Computer Man]

No way. They're headless and uninspired. The only good new model luclin did give us was the elementals.

You're wrong, but thank you for your input :)

[paulgiamatti]

The only good new model luclin did give us was the elementals.

Agreed - the models are fine, but the animations are god awful horrendous. Somehow they managed to animate the Luclin models so poorly that it actually detracts from the quality of the models. I'd wager the person who did the Luclin animations had literally never done 3D animating of any kind before that. Like, watch the Luclin earth elemental attack something - WTF is it doing?

Anyway, I like the classic elementals better - just download these and get the best of both worlds: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256151

[radda]

. Also, how would it be an advantage when ALL players could turn them on?

Because not ALL players would ever have them on,
Duh, come on man. Get smart