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mickmoranis
01-23-2019, 03:23 PM
The left is going to slay kamalia harris for self imposing herself as the first candidate, how dare she, the hubris. Her head will be a warning to any others that want to put themselves before the hive.

mickmoranis
01-23-2019, 03:24 PM
www.c-span.org/video/?c4678202/bill-browder-suspect-fusion-gps-incentives-journalists

liberal logic:

trump using twitter = propaganda.

the media printing what politicians tell them to = public relations.

Irulan
01-23-2019, 03:34 PM
The left is going to slay kamalia harris for self imposing herself as the first candidate, how dare she, the hubris. Her head will be a warning to any others that want to put themselves before the hive.

Would you vote for her, even in the primaries, genuinely, not as sabotage of the Democratic party?

Other than Trump. Who is the next best presidential candidate regardless of party affiliation in your eyes.

maskedmelon
01-23-2019, 03:36 PM
imagine democrats seizing the vacant role of the adult and resolving this shitdown by giving trump what he wants and locking his disapproval rating at its current low.

Irulan
01-23-2019, 03:43 PM
imagine democrats seizing the vacant role of the adult and resolving this shitdown by giving trump what he wants and locking his disapproval rating at its current low.

They're afraid of losing votes from their base and the extreme left though :o

Not arguing you. I am just illustrating what I think the core issue is.

Also, I would recommend they take the high road by apologizing for wasting money over this particular football and acknowledge that the people who want the wall deserve to see reform in our border protection and immigration enforcement.

There's this excuse that this is going to happen again. Either way it probably will and is better to stand their ground over a more critical issue. Like health insurance regulations.

mickmoranis
01-23-2019, 04:09 PM
Would you vote for her, even in the primaries, genuinely, not as sabotage of the Democratic party?

Other than Trump. Who is the next best presidential candidate regardless of party affiliation in your eyes.

heel no, she wanted to flay kavanaugh and goalposted when she got her investigation to say no because he was upset that she was calling him a rapist. She's a reptoid.

re question #2: Ivanka Trump

mickmoranis
01-23-2019, 04:11 PM
I guess if rand paul ran again Id be into that. Its hard to say. Fuck it, Lyndsy Ghram, lets get weird.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 04:34 PM
imagine democrats seizing the vacant role of the adult and resolving this shitdown by giving trump what he wants and locking his disapproval rating at its current low.

adult in the room = doing whatever Republicans want

sure thing melon :rolleyes:

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 04:39 PM
adult in the room = doing whatever Republicans want

sure thing melon :rolleyes:

Adults compromise.

Trump is the only one willing to compromise.

Trump is making the Democrats look like children.

Let that sink in.

Throndor
01-23-2019, 05:32 PM
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad wrote extensively on this topic. In defining the word dajjal he wrote:

Then understand, my dear ones, that it has been disclosed to me that the reference to the Antichrist as one individual is not designed to indicate his personal individuality, but his unity as a class, meaning thereby that in that class there will be a unity of ideas as is, indeed, indicated by the word dajjāl itself and in this name there are many Signs for those who reflect. The meaning of the word dajjāl is a chain of deceptive ideas, the links of which are so attached to each other as if it was a structure of equal-sized bricks of the same colour, quality and strength, some of them firmly overlapping others and further strengthened by being plastered from outside.[23]

Ennewi
01-23-2019, 06:35 PM
Adults compromise.

Trump is the only one willing to kompromat.

Trump is making the Democrats look like children.

Let that sink in.

Ftfy

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 06:38 PM
Ftfy

Whatever you have to do to lie to yourself, buddy :)

Ennewi
01-23-2019, 06:41 PM
Lol

Hahahahahahaha

Uou really do believe this don't you?

*sigh*

They often have the same adjuncts, it costs less, and in your final year you can have the credits transferred. If you want to be a welder or technician it is especially good. With spelling/grammar like that, I imagine you graduated from Trump University.

Ennewi
01-23-2019, 06:43 PM
Whatever you have to do to lie to yourself, buddy :)

Your smiles are as false as the president's tan.

Throndor
01-23-2019, 06:55 PM
They often have the same adjuncts, it costs less, and in your final year you can have the credits transferred. If you want to be a welder or technician it is especially good. With spelling/grammar like that, I imagine you graduated from Trump University.

Did the first two years at a JC, transferred with a 3.9 GPA. You're right about it being cheaper to transfer, and i suppose theres not much of a difference between GE requirements at either type of institution. Landing an A did'nt require much effort if you disingenuously allied yourself with your professors ideological bent, but it seems that's a given at any institution of "higher education" these days, where smart = conjuring boogeymen to pin people's shortcomings on.


What do you think of the Sokal affair?

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:06 PM
Your smiles are as false as the president's tan.

ORANGE XD

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cn4hBDy.jpg

Ennewi
01-23-2019, 07:10 PM
Alan Watts, and joseph campbell are both pretty solid thinkers. Why are you siding with authoritarian left, though? Leftist dogma has essentially slid into religiosity at this point, how are you unable to see that, or reconcile that with free thinking?

Granted, that the right fringe polemics arent much different but i dont see them calling for the abolishment of free speech, and a massive rewrite to the constitution like we're in some sort of orwellian dystopia.

I don't side with the left, that keeps being assumed. I maintain a quiet suspicion for anyone who seeks out a position of power. Anyone making big promises. It doesn't even have to be a politician. Anyone with influence and a group of followers. From Tony Robbins to Joe Rogan. Not in a paranoid way, but aware that fame does things to people and they will do things for it. If they run for office and win, even if I supported them, they deserve scrutiny as that is the role of the public, if not news journalists.

If Clinton had won, these posts would be directed at her. Whenever anyone takes power, regardless of their party, they deserve more scrutiny and criticism. But there are numerous examples of democrats who should be scrutinized, even now with a republican majority. Ex.: Tulsi Gabbard having tea with Assad.

It's more of a human problem than a political problem imo. Humans have a poor track record and corrupt whatever form of government they claim to hold dear.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7Djq45y.png

Throndor
01-23-2019, 07:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cn4hBDy.jpg

Yes, really. Pretty sure your side called for "opening fire on sight" of these children......

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UUBjkZL.png

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:15 PM
Yes, really. Pretty sure your side called for "opening fire on sight" of these children......

little on the nose if you know who David Hogg is but i did laugh good joke

mickmoranis
01-23-2019, 07:20 PM
love how david hog is twitter verified and wants to actually pen legislation but is free from criticism cus hes a kid?

nice try slimy democrats

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cn4hBDy.jpg

Let me know when an equivalent of a CNN correspondent calls for violence against David Hogg. Or someone threatening to put him into a wood chipper (with thousands of likes and support), or an SNL writer and a country singer offering blowjobs and signatures in exchange for assault done to David Hogg.

Let me know when all that happens to David Hogg.

Throndor
01-23-2019, 07:23 PM
I don't side with the left, that keeps being assumed. I maintain a quiet suspicion for anyone who seeks out a position of power. Anyone making big promises. It doesn't even have to be a politician. Anyone with influence and a group of followers. From Tony Robbins to Joe Rogan. Not in a paranoid way, but aware that fame does things to people and they will do things for it. If they run for office and win, even if I supported them, they deserve scrutiny as that is the role of the public, if not news journalists.

If Clinton had won, these posts would be directed at her. Whenever anyone takes power, regardless of their party, they deserve more scrutiny and criticism. But there are numerous examples of democrats who should be scrutinized, even now with a republican majority. Ex.: Tulsi Gabbard having tea with Assad.

It's more of a human problem than a political problem imo. Humans have a poor track record and corrupt whatever form of government they claim to hold dear.


Neither do I, that's why I refer to Trump as King Ecgbert of North Umbria (look it up). I, and a large contingent of people "supporting" Trump, sided with him merely because his opponent was a globalist corporocratic shill. Technically, I'm more of the vote out all incumbents mindset. I also support passing legislation to install term limits on congress. Politics transforming from a position of civil service to a lucrative career of courting lobbyists has forced my hand on that position.

If you've ever read 48 Laws of Power, you can see players on both sides of the political aisle pretty regularly making plays from that book. Although trump has a tendency to violate Law 18.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:25 PM
Let me know when an equivalent of a CNN correspondent calls for violence against David Hogg. Or someone threatening to put him into a wood chipper (with thousands of likes and support), or an SNL writer and a country singer offering blowjobs and signatures in exchange for assault done to David Hogg.

Let me know when all that happens to David Hogg.

im real sorry about your inferiority complex. Please know that you're just as important to me as any CNN reporter







































bucko

Throndor
01-23-2019, 07:25 PM
little on the nose if you know who David Hogg is but i did laugh good joke

Why would i care to take the time to intricately get to know every armchair sociologist in the country these days? You need to back away from the internet bro, your faggotry is showing.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:27 PM
Why would i care to take the time to intricately get to know every armchair sociologist in the country these days? You need to back away from the internet bro, your faggotry is showing.

ladies and gentleman, the intellectual right.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:29 PM
im real sorry about your inferiority complex. Please know that you're just as important to me as any CNN reporter

The Left's violence against Conservatives is accepted and mainstream.

When Don Lemon of CNN announces that Antifa is just in their violence and you should attack conservatives because it's the right thing to do, you know our situation is fucked.

If a Conservative looks at someone, it's an outrage worthy of death.

If a Leftist sucker punches anyone they disagree with or incite violence against children, they're "resisting" and it's their "moral duty".

You guys are playing with fire.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:36 PM
The Left's violence against Conservatives is accepted and mainstream.

When Don Lemon of CNN announces that Antifa is just in their violence and you should attack conservatives because it's the right thing to do, you know our situation is fucked.

If a Conservative looks at someone, it's an outrage worthy of death.

If a Leftist sucker punches anyone they disagree with or incite violence against children, they're "resisting" and it's their "moral duty".

You guys are playing with fire.

sorry, persecution complex

Patriam1066
01-23-2019, 07:40 PM
I don't side with the left, that keeps being assumed. I maintain a quiet suspicion for anyone who seeks out a position of power. Anyone making big promises. It doesn't even have to be a politician. Anyone with influence and a group of followers. From Tony Robbins to Joe Rogan. Not in a paranoid way, but aware that fame does things to people and they will do things for it. If they run for office and win, even if I supported them, they deserve scrutiny as that is the role of the public, if not news journalists.

If Clinton had won, these posts would be directed at her. Whenever anyone takes power, regardless of their party, they deserve more scrutiny and criticism. But there are numerous examples of democrats who should be scrutinized, even now with a republican majority. Ex.: Tulsi Gabbard having tea with Assad.

It's more of a human problem than a political problem imo. Humans have a poor track record and corrupt whatever form of government they claim to hold dear.

Assad is better than the alternatives. Obama and our generals never toppled him for a reason, and it wasn’t fear of Iran or Russia. It was fear of Sunni Arab rule in a country that is 40% either non Sunni or non Muslim. Assad is an ophthalmologist from Britain. His opponents fuck goats. Hope this helps

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:42 PM
sorry, persecution complex

Says the Leftist who fully endorses the Oppression Olympics™ (aka Intersectionality)

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:47 PM
Says the Leftist who fully endorses the Oppression Olympics™ (aka Intersectionality)

nuance, dingus. an idea can be 100% completely correct and still be ineffective in this vale of tears.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:51 PM
nuance, dingus. an idea can be 100% completely correct and still be ineffective in this vale of tears.

"It's okay when I do it, but it's not when you do it."

K.

Let me know when the mainstream media threatens violence against "marginalized" minorities.

I'll wait.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:56 PM
Leftwing Redditors are currently being red pilled against the leftist media hahahahahahahaha (https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/aiuqi0/gay_valedictorian_banned_from_speaking_at?sort=top )

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 07:58 PM
"It's okay when I do it, but it's not when you do it."

K.

Let me know when the mainstream media threatens violence against "marginalized" minorities.

I'll wait.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-best-option/2015/03/13/fb112eb0-c725-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html?utm_term=.fa2818e11064&noredirect=on

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 07:59 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-best-option/2015/03/13/fb112eb0-c725-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html?utm_term=.fa2818e11064&noredirect=on

Couldn't find anything, huh?

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 08:04 PM
Couldn't find anything, huh?

whoosh

Throndor
01-23-2019, 08:06 PM
ladies and gentleman, the intellectual right.

I wasn't aware that I'm supposed to adopt the knowledge of celebrity that the left regales upon traitors to the constitution. Why do I care about this fucking child with his childish mindset?

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 08:12 PM
I wasn't aware that I'm supposed to adopt the knowledge of celebrity that the left regales upon traitors to the constitution. Why do I care about this fucking child with his childish mindset?

because you said open fire and he was in a school shooting. usually when people say ridiculous things they're kidding.

Irulan
01-23-2019, 08:21 PM
Waiting for that day when I have a specific and unique medical problem and the doctor says "just smoke some weeeeeed maaaannnn'aaammm" without even running some blood tests or recommending a better diet.

This is why Healthcare cant be nationalized, cuz ppl will demand shit without following best practices and the doctors won't give a fuck what their patients do as long as they smoke weed.

If I was a doctor I would definitely refuse to continue treatment on someone who did things that where self destructive.

Throndor
01-23-2019, 08:22 PM
because you said open fire and he was in a school shooting. usually when people say ridiculous things they're kidding.

I suppose we have very different definitions or senses of humor when it comes to "kidding".

Irulan
01-23-2019, 08:24 PM
Hanging is way more dishonorable way to go than being fired.

Throndor
01-23-2019, 08:28 PM
Waiting for that day when I have a specific and unique medical problem and the doctor says "just smoke some weeeeeed maaaannnn'aaammm" without even running some blood tests or recommending a better diet.

This is why Healthcare cant be nationalized, cuz ppl will demand shit without following best practices and the doctors won't give a fuck what their patients do as long as they smoke weed.

If I was a doctor I would definitely refuse to continue treatment on someone who did things that where self destructive.

Right? I work within the fitness supply industry, and there's a big push to include CBD infusions in the fitness beverage and grab-n-go snack industry. Just got off the horn with a salesperson trying to sell me on CBD Gummies and CBD Drinks. Interrupted, and said...."look, i'm an obdurate sunnuvabitch. I don't really fucking care to hear the marketting pitch about how magical weed is dude, my customers in santa cruz and my yoga/dharmic program gyms will probably gobble this shit up and that's cool and all but spare me the Panacea pitch".

Ennewi
01-23-2019, 08:40 PM
Did the first two years at a JC, transferred with a 3.9 GPA. You're right about it being cheaper to transfer, and i suppose theres not much of a difference between GE requirements at either type of institution. Landing an A did'nt require much effort if you disingenuously allied yourself with your professors ideological bent, but it seems that's a given at any institution of "higher education" these days, where smart = conjuring boogeymen to pin people's shortcomings on.


What do you think of the Sokal affair?

Clever work, similar to the experiments conducted by Stanley Milgram.

It reveals that the established parameters of higher learning can only exist in theory because the standard itself isn't sufficiently tested except through graduates out in the professional world and in cases like Sokal.

In a lot of ways colleges cause more issues for the world than they can hope to solve, and often do so through trying to solve them.

In my first college course we were explicitly instructed never to use the word "gypped" because it was offensive to gypsies. We were then sent on a scavenger hunt around campus to become more familiar with its layout, except it was named something "more appropriate" to avoid disparaging scavengers. This was not considered a liberal college either and the professor repeatedly felt the need to inform everyone that he voted for Bush and "respectfully disagreed" with those who did not. It would have been equally irrelevant if he kept telling everyone he voted Nader. Having to include "respectfully" just added to the bs notion that we were somehow more civilized now through this sensitivity training which was present from class to class.

There was so much politically correct verbal tiptoeing going on that mental gymnastics were impossible. Comedians that used to perform at universities now avoid it altogether for that same reason. Everyone is offended for someone else they don't have any interest in otherwise.

But to the point about the credibility of college credits, regardless of external influences, that is more difficult to measure. It's easy to know when a welder has been poorly trained or taught something that is incompatible with the reality of the job. But with a softer, less hands-on job this is not always so apparent or it is less likely to be questioned/challenged by others given the setting. Everyone can name at least one office worker or college professor who should have in all rights been unemployed, but who maintained his or her position because of connections and/or politics.

Also, the experiment should serve to remind students that the mind is not to be directed entirely by a syllabus and that evidence to advance our understanding of reality is not confined to what the status quo signs off on.

My GPA was much lower than yours btw. Consistently 3.75, just enough to get on the dean's list along with a thousand other names.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 08:41 PM
whoosh

...was the sound as you desperately searched through pages of pages of news articles, only to come up empty-handed :(

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 08:41 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://i.imgur.com/Thy4T8Z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 08:52 PM
...was the sound as you desperately searched through pages of pages of news articles, only to come up empty-handed :(

link broken or something?

Throndor
01-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Also, the experiment should serve to remind students that the mind is not to be directed entirely by a syllabus and that evidence to advance our understanding of reality is not confined to what the status quo signs off on.

My GPA was much lower than yours btw. Consistently 3.75, just enough to get on the dean's list along with a thousand other names.

Yeah i ended up getting the Sociology department's "Student of the Year" award, and because of acadamea's tendency toward only accepting and echo-chambering assenting views, i don't even believe it's can categorically be defined as "Science", at this point.

I mean, there's some "truthiness", for lack of a better word, to it, when rhethorical conclusions remain very closely associated with sound data sets, and i somehwat like Haidt's take on the sociological foundation of morality and ethics, but i largely disagree with how heavily the entire discipline leans on postmodern thinkers such as Marcusse, Foucault, and Derridan. Critical theory, dialectics, and subtextual rhetorical analysis can be somewhat interesting but at the end of the day when you understand how they attempted to wield these tools to enact repugnant change, its hard to stand by their contributions as meaningful.

Youll have to mind my spelling, this was quickly typed out on my phone.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 09:13 PM
link broken or something?

Nope, it worked.

It just wasn't related.

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 09:20 PM
Nope, it worked.

It just wasn't related.

oh :o

whoosh

maskedmelon
01-23-2019, 10:10 PM
adult in the room = doing whatever Republicans want

sure thing melon :rolleyes:

trump's a child, everyone knows this. And now, the democrats are his playmates. it really is shameful that 235 individuals would unite in denying 800,000 public employees a month's wages simply to deny an offensive manchild his ineffective wall.

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 10:14 PM
Trump is the adult in the room (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-being-the-adult-in-the-room-on-the-shutdown/2019/01/22/0da03e76-1e67-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html)

Wonkie
01-23-2019, 11:13 PM
Trump is the adult in the room (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-being-the-adult-in-the-room-on-the-shutdown/2019/01/22/0da03e76-1e67-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html)

dubyas speechwriter

His one book is a defense of the Torture Memos and "enhanced interrogation methods" used by the CIA under the George W. Bush administration.

Ahldagor
01-23-2019, 11:17 PM
Trump is the adult in the room (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-being-the-adult-in-the-room-on-the-shutdown/2019/01/22/0da03e76-1e67-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html)

His offer was a can kick for the dems. Nobody bringing up Trump owning the shut down before it happened is odd to me.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WTrA9ybQKbs

ScaringChildren
01-23-2019, 11:35 PM
dubyas speechwriter

His one book is a defense of the Torture Memos and "enhanced interrogation methods" used by the CIA under the George W. Bush administration.

The guy who started the whole program for the CIA lives down the street from me.

Of course it was a Floridian who started the torture program. :cool:

Mblake1981
01-24-2019, 07:41 AM
trump's a child, everyone knows this. And now, the democrats are his playmates. it really is shameful that 235 individuals would unite in denying 800,000 public employees a month's wages simply to deny an offensive manchild his ineffective wall.

I suppose its a little more clear when people are climbing over your gated community fence using a ladder. Politics, you know.

Gigi googoo

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 07:44 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Vrnw5Mk_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Irulan
01-24-2019, 07:48 AM
Lol ^

(relying on the media to tell you what is right or wrong)

GJ

To be fair plenty of media outlets have condemned both though.

Please don't tell me (butttttt mines better and honestor)

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 07:49 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7fU4F1Z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 09:14 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7fU4F1Z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Lol.

Anybody can tho'.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 10:03 AM
I had latka for breakfast

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 10:05 AM
I had latka for breakfast

Pretzels and black coffee here

Irulan
01-24-2019, 10:06 AM
Pretzels and black coffee here

Hot coffee flavored whipped milk :p

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 11:18 AM
Two pints of water and a low sugar energy drink.

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 11:23 AM
To be fair plenty of media outlets have condemned both though.

Please don't tell me (butttttt mines better and honestor)

name one outlet that condemned both.

Ill even allow the notion that "both" is some how good, considering the maga one should be celebrated for its maturity and resilience under pressure

Irulan
01-24-2019, 12:47 PM
name one outlet that condemned both.

Ill even allow the notion that "both" is some how good, considering the maga one should be celebrated for its maturity and resilience under pressure

Well there's sides that condemned one or the other. But like... Just because media likes one but not the other.

Anyway you have a valid point.

My point is that our distrust of and skeptism of and criticism of the media shouldn't fall along political lines.

I can say that there's very little I trust.

Making my own stock because I don't even trust brand names at the supermarket. Even the ones that are labeled with stuff I feel is appropriate.

I get the distaste and bias people have for both examples.

It's not "just the jewy pedo MSM sorosaurs" tho.

Lot of dumb fucking shit in the world and every one is ready to die over it.

I just had this discussion with my sister and mother as it relates to school lunches.

Where's the families taking care of their children and ensuring that the wests logistic and supply chain isn't a clusterfuck?

I get why people don't want to raise their kids in public school. Not only is the culture toxic, but so too is the food.

Anyway. It is just fucking hilarious people want to sit on their high horses over at fox and brietbart and butch about CNN

Both publish fairly ludicrous made up misinformed or innacurate bullshit on the reg


Cause it's goooood for business.

Wasn't that kid picture some weirdo libertarian eurotrash country?

Anyway it was the evangelicals with cults doin weird stuff in the 70s IIRC which fed the hippies.

You can use the internet to build a good exercise routine and source grass fed meat from a local farmer.

Or you can pop ultra mega super maga hot cheatos and farm fucking outrage between fungi repops. The left does the same with quinoa crisps baked in industrial tailings and GMO soy...

GG

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 12:47 PM
My boss just said to a co-worker, "Come be my negro" and he flipped out on him.

Was awkward and funny.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 12:48 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/24/juan-guaido-venezuelas-opposition-leader-declares-himself-interim-president

This is a tricky one. Who's (Left/Right) is on which side of this clusterfuck?

On one hand, we have severely impoverished people growing increasingly despondent over Totalitarian Socialist leadership being backed by China and Russia.

On the other Hand we have Trump supporting an unelected candidate declaring himself president after emerging somewhat organically from the disenfranchised.

On the other hand we have the globalist-establishment left wanting to promote a new era of agreeableness with China, but at the same time wanting to re-enter a cold war with Russia.

Then, of course, there is the ever-looming unwillingness to side with Trump on anything whatsoever coming from the left.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 12:50 PM
My boss just said to a co-worker, "Come be my negro" and he flipped out on him.

Was awkward and funny.

Blak or white tho

If white == radical inclusion

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 12:51 PM
Latin America is pretty fed up with Venezuela. Maduro will fall and Russia and China won’t do shit

Throndor
01-24-2019, 12:53 PM
Well there's sides that condemned one or the other. But like... Just because media likes one but not the other.

Anyway you have a valid point.

My point is that our distrust of and skeptism of and criticism of the media shouldn't fall along political lines.

I can say that there's very little I trust.

Making my own stock because I don't even trust brand names at the supermarket. Even the ones that are labeled with stuff I feel is appropriate.

I get the distaste and bias people have for both examples.

It's not "just the jewy pedo MSM sorosaurs" tho.

Lot of dumb fucking shit in the world and every one is ready to die over it.

I just had this discussion with my sister and mother as it relates to school lunches.

Where's the families taking care of their children and ensuring that the wests logistic and supply chain isn't a clusterfuck?

I get why people don't want to raise their kids in public school. Not only is the culture toxic, but so too is the food.

Anyway. It is just fucking hilarious people want to sit on their high horses over at fox and brietbart and butch about CNN

Both publish fairly ludicrous made up misinformed or innacurate bullshit on the reg


Cause it's goooood for business.

Wasn't that kid picture some weirdo libertarian eurotrash country?

Anyway it was the evangelicals with cults doin weird stuff in the 70s IIRC which fed the hippies.

You can use the internet to build a good exercise routine and source grass fed meat from a local farmer.

Or you can pop ultra mega super maga hot cheatos and farm fucking outrage between fungi repops. The left does the same with quinoa crisps baked in industrial tailings and GMO soy...

GG


For sure. There are no Mary Sues amongst the Mass Media Outlets. Both sides are being pretty goddamned obnoxious at this point.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 12:55 PM
Latin America is pretty fed up with Venezuela. Maduro will fall and Russia and China won’t do shit

Yeah, but I'm asking for the leftist's take on this issue ;)

Do they go against "socialism" and against "China" who they are berating Trump for going against.

And

Side WITH TRUMP at the same time.

Or do they double down on their "socialism is a good idea", so let the peasantry starve approach?

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 12:55 PM
Blak or white tho

If white == radical inclusion

He's white.

He's 21 and new.

He's not used to our inappropriate office culture.

He didn't go into a moral lecture, it's possible he just felt disrespected.

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 12:57 PM
My point is that our distrust of and skeptism of and criticism of the media shouldn't fall along political lines.

It does tho, its simple, establishment, and non establishment people are the difference.

Right now the democrat party line is hard establishment. which means that distrust and skepticism of the media has now (for the time being miss fortune) fallen along political lines.

Until the left becomes less authoritarian with their idiology it will continue to do so.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:00 PM
"My point is that our distrust of and skeptism of and criticism of the media shouldn't fall along political lines."

It does tho, its simple, establishment, and non establishment people are the difference.

Right now the democrat party line is hard establishment. which means that distrust and skepticism of the media has now (for the time being miss fortune) fallen along political lines.

Until the left becomes less authoritarian with their idiology it will continue to do so.

Yep.

Leftists hardline support the globalist establishment at this point, while simultaneously disingenuously supporting ineffective environmental policies. You cant have globalized distribution with acute areas of environmentally catastrophic production, and rampant migration from third to first world while simultaneously being "eco-minded" for obvious reasons.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:01 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/24/juan-guaido-venezuelas-opposition-leader-declares-himself-interim-president

This is a tricky one. Who's (Left/Right) is on which side of this clusterfuck?

On one hand, we have severely impoverished people growing increasingly despondent over Totalitarian Socialist leadership being backed by China and Russia.

On the other Hand we have Trump supporting an unelected candidate declaring himself president after emerging somewhat organically from the disenfranchised.

On the other hand we have the globalist-establishment left wanting to promote a new era of agreeableness with China, but at the same time wanting to re-enter a cold war with Russia.

Then, of course, there is the ever-looming unwillingness to side with Trump on anything whatsoever coming from the left.

Sounds like the wind is blowing in the direction Juan Guaido.

The people don't want to be ruled by Maduro's regime. We would have better ties with Juan if he siezes power.

Fuck both Russia and China. They aren't getting both Syria and Venezuela. Doesn't matter who wins there.

I want to say I'm with Trump here.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:03 PM
Yep.

Leftists hardline support the globalist establishment at this point, while simultaneously disingenuously supporting ineffective environmental policies. You cant have globalized distribution with acute areas of environmentally catastrophic production, and rampant migration from third to first world while simultaneously being "eco-minded" for obvious reasons.

I agree. Left = gated communities with wasteland all around. And no means in sight to re-align our own communities.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:05 PM
I was reading a great book where the hero was a veteran of the special forces who where in Venezuela circa 2030s lol.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:06 PM
Sounds like the wind is blowing in the direction Juan Guaido.

The people don't want to be ruled by Maduro's regime. We would have better ties with Juan if he siezes power.

Fuck both Russia and China. They aren't getting both Syria and Venezuela. Doesn't matter who wins there.

I want to say I'm with Trump here.

That may very well be true, but it will be interesting to see how the left pivots on this one. Is there hatred for Trump and unwillingness to agree with him on anything whatsoever so deep that they will throw Venezuela under the bus just to not be seen as agreeing with him? lol

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 01:07 PM
Sounds like the wind is blowing in the direction Juan Guaido.

The people don't want to be ruled by Maduro's regime. We would have better ties with Juan if he siezes power.

Fuck both Russia and China. They aren't getting both Syria and Venezuela. Doesn't matter who wins there.

I want to say I'm with Trump here.

Assad is better for the Christians of Syria than the alternatives. Anyone who disagrees can answer to my bible and penis

(Also haha Saudis, Iran dunked on you)

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:08 PM
Also seems like Russia wants a failed state in Venezuela. Probably for economic reasons. Making it harder for us to get gas or oil or just making it harder on south America thus creating a scarcity. IDK can we make a buck selling oil or uranium to Mexico?

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 01:12 PM
Assad is better for the Christians of Syria than the alternatives. Anyone who disagrees can answer to my bible and penis

(Also haha Saudis, Iran dunked on you)

haha no surprise someone gassing muslims is better for christians. Im not saying its good or bad, just par for the course ;)

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:12 PM
Assad is better for the Christians of Syria than the alternatives. Anyone who disagrees can answer to my bible and penis

(Also haha Saudis, Iran dunked on you)

I do not disagree at all.

TBH I think Syria was moving in the right direction under Assad.

It is now perpetually fucked tho... Is an Assad regime ever going to work?

Our shot was to stop the rebellion before it started. Kinda missed the boat on that. Maybe there's a 50/50 chance the next Syrian government won't suck so bad. However. If Chechnya is any indication it's going to be another Russian shitholding.

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 01:13 PM
We should invade Mexico, impose a 1 child policy, and make everyone there grow either agave or avocado

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:13 PM
Also seems like Russia wants a failed state in Venezuela. Probably for economic reasons. Making it harder for us to get gas or oil or just making it harder on south America thus creating a scarcity. IDK can we make a buck selling oil or uranium to Mexico?

From what I understand, China has been loaning Venezuela's socialist leadership money like crazy and so they're trying to protect their interests.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:14 PM
We should invade Mexico, impose a 1 child policy, and make everyone there grow either agave or avocado

Avocado, Agave, and Artichokes (the queen's crop)

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:15 PM
From what I understand, China has been loaning Venezuela's socialist leadership money like crazy and so they're trying to protect their interests.

Ya. Is Juan a socialist?

I thought both Russia n China support Maduro.

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 01:15 PM
haha no surprise someone gassing muslims is better for christians. Im not saying its good or bad, just par for the course ;)

I have very little sympathy for Sunnis who dress their daughters in trash bags. Sorry I couldn’t give you a different response. Persian empire taking shape all across the Fertile (((Crescent)))

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:16 PM
Ya. Is Juan a socialist?

I thought both Russia n China support Maduro.

they do

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:16 PM
FYI Tesla stock looking REALLY appealing right now ;)

Poised for 25% gains when it blasts back up to 350+, as it has a dozen times in the past year.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:22 PM
FYI Tesla stock looking REALLY appealing right now ;)

Poised for 25% gains when it blasts back up to 350+, as it has a dozen times in the past year.

No matter what side of the fence you support or wind up living on. The power elite are going to be walling themselves up in out of the way corners trying to create new sustainable and off the grid systems and villages to ensure those geothermally locally sourced vanilla lattes are always delicious and warm.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 01:28 PM
No matter what side of the fence you support or wind up living on. The power elite are going to be walling themselves up in out of the way corners trying to create new sustainable and off the grid systems and villages to ensure those geothermally locally sourced vanilla lattes are always delicious and warm.

They never even gonna see this wolf in the hen-house, though ;)

Irulan
01-24-2019, 01:31 PM
They never even gonna see this wolf in the hen-house, though ;)

😉

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 02:17 PM
we should invade venezuela to promote terrorist diversity

�� more �� latina �� bombers ��

Throndor
01-24-2019, 02:21 PM
we should invade venezuela to promote terrorist diversity

�� more �� latina �� bombers ��

Nice of you to roll out of bed at 10am, wonk. Bright and chipper new day.

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 02:25 PM
we should invade venezuela to promote terrorist diversity

�� more �� latina �� bombers ��

if we turned the caravan we could invaide venezuela and stop illegal immigration at the same time, if only they ran into a wall...

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 02:35 PM
Nice of you to roll out of bed at 10am, wonk. Bright and chipper new day.

how do you find the time to insta reply while still being a good father and captain of industry?

Throndor
01-24-2019, 02:57 PM
how do you find the time to insta reply while still being a good father and captain of industry?

I skip over all the regaling of leftist heroes in the newsfeed, and generally keep a chrome tab open to this ole hole to peruse throughout the workday.

Plus, i wake up in the morning! (Remeber that south park episode where the old people take over the town before the younger adults even get out of bed?)

Im already on lunch; headed to the gym.

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 03:05 PM
*gives good boy points to NPC*

Throndor
01-24-2019, 03:16 PM
Todays topic is venezuela and an attempt to clarify the leftist platform on it. With trump supporting regime change with Juan's declaration of presidency over Maduro, Russia and China are supporting the current socialist totalitarian regime.

Are you with china and russia, or trump?

Throndor
01-24-2019, 03:27 PM
This month's window to invest in tesla is closing. Tomorrow it will be soaring back up on the path back toward 350 from sub 300

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 03:42 PM
*gives good boy points to NPC*

Can someone explain what an 'NPC' is to Wonkie?

feniin
01-24-2019, 04:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZNvlBAF60

This is a pretty honest, brilliant analysis on how we ended up with Trump. And I agree and have fallen into some of the pitfalls he describes.

So, I'd like to apologize to SC, Throndor, Mick and crew. We didn't engage in proper discourse and name-called each other rather than talking about the actual politics/positions (you guys were just as bad, so don't suck your own dicks too much).

I'll try to stick to the policies and positions more in the future.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 04:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZNvlBAF60

This is a pretty honest, brilliant analysis on how we ended up with Trump. And I agree and have fallen into some of the pitfalls he describes.

So, I'd like to apologize to SC, Throndor, Mick and crew. We didn't engage in proper discourse and name-called each other rather than talking about the actual politics/positions (you guys were just as bad, so don't suck your own dicks too much).

I'll try to stick to the policies and positions more in the future.

That's the thing. We've been waiting for viable policies to come from the left for quite awhile now. Those of us that voted for Obama (twice, i might add) were expecting him to enact meaningful change; instead, all we got was a focused attack on middle class america and ANTI-WHITE HATE, while his administration abused their power to make and keep themselves rich.

Quit trying to put a stranglehold on the middle class and "close the book" on capitalism, and provide the creative and innovative approach to problem-solving that we need.

The left needs the right to slow their role when they get too authoritarian and communistic; the right needs the left for their innovative approach and new ways of approaching historic problems.

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 05:22 PM
Indiana superintendent accused of lying about insurance to get care for sick student (https://abc7ny.com/superintendent-accused-of-lying-to-get-help-for-sick-student/5104416/)

INDIANA (WABC) -- A superintendent in Indiana returned to school after she was arrested for helping a sick student. She now faces three charges, including insurance fraud.

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 05:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZNvlBAF60

This is a pretty honest, brilliant analysis on how we ended up with Trump. And I agree and have fallen into some of the pitfalls he describes.

So, I'd like to apologize to SC, Throndor, Mick and crew. We didn't engage in proper discourse and name-called each other rather than talking about the actual politics/positions (you guys were just as bad, so don't suck your own dicks too much).

I'll try to stick to the policies and positions more in the future.

He got a few points right, but it's not the full picture.

1) Pendulum swing. We had a Democrat in office for the last 8 years. This usually causes some change to happen. Same with Republicans.

2) The GOP were lazy bastards with no spines. This one never gets mentioned. A lot of the conservative voters were absolutely pissed with their representation in DC. For years.

3) Conservatives always wanted a "Business man" in office. We tend to believe business moguls and military generals make good leaders. Experience without the slimy, political bureaucracy.

4) Trump broke the mold. Up until then, we were used to seeing fake ass politicians. In an age of plastic surgery and photo shop, a lot of people were yearning for authenticity.

5) Trump is a charismatic leader. He turned the entire Republican around to follow his dreams and ideas, overnight. People were enamored with his leadership and bold attitude. He didn't seem like the type that would fall asleep at the wheel, when a lot of people were used to politicians falling asleep at the wheel (see point 2).

6) Trump tapped into people's anger regarding income-inequality. Catering to those who lost manufacturing jobs to China, etc. Conservatives may not talk much about income-inequality, but they definitely feel its effects and Trump ran with the sentiment.

7) Starting in 2015, the "SJW" culture really started ramping up and leaking into the mainstream. A ton of people saw Trump as a defense against this new trend, especially younger people.

8) The media has to compete with the Internet. That means if they want to survive, they need to be a little more sensational. The quickest way to get eyes on a story was to include Trump in it. The media ended up giving him tons of free press. Even if it was bad press, doesn't matter.

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 05:26 PM
Indiana superintendent accused of lying about insurance to get care for sick student (https://abc7ny.com/superintendent-accused-of-lying-to-get-help-for-sick-student/5104416/)

INDIANA (WABC) -- A superintendent in Indiana returned to school after she was arrested for helping a sick student. She now faces three charges, including insurance fraud.

You shouldn't buy oxycontin for a child.

Believe me, I know

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 05:49 PM
leaving diplomats in Venezuela to bait casus belli 😂😂😂😂😂

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 06:09 PM
Massive layoffs for Buzzfeed (https://youtu.be/Q9-sSZCyHoc)

Throndor
01-24-2019, 06:27 PM
Massive layoffs for Buzzfeed (https://youtu.be/Q9-sSZCyHoc)

LOL, borrowed tomorrow to make fake news today. Apparently, they're about as competent with business loan repayment as they are with student loan repayment.

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 06:33 PM
LOL, borrowed tomorrow to make fake news today. Apparently, they're about as competent with business loan repayment as they are with student loan repayment.

They're cutting 15% of their workforce. That's crazy

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 06:43 PM
democrats causing problems they will later complain about: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426824-schumer-blocks-bill-to-pay-coast-guard

gosh we sure need more big government.

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 07:37 PM
They're cutting 15% of their workforce. That's crazy

Do they have investors?

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 07:40 PM
Todays topic is venezuela and an attempt to clarify the leftist platform on it. With trump supporting regime change with Juan's declaration of presidency over Maduro, Russia and China are supporting the current socialist totalitarian regime.

Are you with china and russia, or trump?

Neither. I'd be okay with letting Venezuela sort out its own mess, but (if recalling correctly) Venezuela has more oil in the ground than Saudi Arabia; and that makes it a prime target for business interests in countries with a strong military arm.

ScaringChildren
01-24-2019, 08:03 PM
Do they have investors?

Yeah, I imagine they do. To be fair to Buzzfeed, it's been happening to a lot of digital media companies lately. Huffington Post is another big one about to have layoffs.

Mic.com had a HUGE layoff a few months ago. Like half of their employees or something crazy.

A lot of these companies push really controversial articles and videos, gaining a lot of clicks through angry response. It's a dangerous game because it's a balancing act. Click bait can pay off immediately, but then you start to lose reasonable readers due to sensationalized and low quality content.

Half of the crazy SJW type world are these guys, purposefully poking sticks at society so they look, because creating an emotional response increases the chance of someone sharing it.

Both sides do it, but I think the layoffs are only happening to the left because of over saturation in the market.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 08:10 PM
They're cutting 15% of their workforce. That's crazy

Tesla cut 7% and the market reacted with a 15% plunge. I went all in and moved my holdings over from NIO when it was down to just over 300/share. Today they regained 1.5% and i dont suppose it will be long before theyre back at 350$+/share. Standing to make a 16.5% gain when it limit sells at 360 which it has shot past 9 times in the past 12 months. There will probably be another scare around feb 6th when they announce their quarterlies since investors are really scared right now, and even when a company beats their earnings reports they plummet over the slightest inclination of difficulties ahead. I may shortsell just before the earnings call and rebuy right after the dive. Not sure yet but im hoping it goes up to my limit sale point before that.

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 08:48 PM
Yeah, I imagine they do. To be fair to Buzzfeed, it's been happening to a lot of digital media companies lately. Huffington Post is another big one about to have layoffs.

Mic.com had a HUGE layoff a few months ago. Like half of their employees or something crazy.

A lot of these companies push really controversial articles and videos, gaining a lot of clicks through angry response. It's a dangerous game because it's a balancing act. Click bait can pay off immediately, but then you start to lose reasonable readers due to sensationalized and low quality content.

Half of the crazy SJW type world are these guys, purposefully poking sticks at society so they look, because creating an emotional response increases the chance of someone sharing it.

Both sides do it, but I think the layoffs are only happening to the left because of over saturation in the market.

I hope we're reaching sensationalist burnout, and Weekly World New like presentation goes the way of Weekly World News (LONG LIVE BATBOY!). It's also layoff season for ceo's to get a bonus check.

Raev
01-24-2019, 08:53 PM
Tesla cut 7% and the market reacted with a 15% plunge. I went all in and moved my holdings over from NIO when it was down to just over 300/share. Today they regained 1.5% and i dont suppose it will be long before theyre back at 350$+/share. Standing to make a 16.5% gain when it limit sells at 360 which it has shot past 9 times in the past 12 months. There will probably be another scare around feb 6th when they announce their quarterlies since investors are really scared right now, and even when a company beats their earnings reports they plummet over the slightest inclination of difficulties ahead. I may shortsell just before the earnings call and rebuy right after the dive. Not sure yet but im hoping it goes up to my limit sale point before that.

I will be surprised if Tesla makes it through 2019 without going bankrupt. They are not down because they laid off 7% of their workforce, but because no one wants to buy the Model 3: only 30-40,000 new orders in Q4 despite pulling demand forward due to the tax credit expiring. They have finished the American backlog and European homologation was bungled to the point that they won't be able to sell anything there before Q1 finishes.

Q1 is going to be a bloodbath. Even Elon in his latest memo said something like 'with a huge amount of hard work and luck we might be able to break even in Q1'. This is from the most optimistic (or most fraudulent, depending on your viewpoint) guy in the world who previously claimed that investors should have 'no concern at all that Tesla would fail to produce 10,000 M3/week by the end of 2018'.

Keep in mind that even if Tesla were able to maintain $300m a quarter, at a generous auto P/E of 10 that equates to a $12 billion valuation and a share price of $50. So the market is pricing in 6x growth, only Tesla has already maxed out the Fremont plant and cannot possibly grow at all without Shanghai, which won't be ready for another year even on Tesla's literally-always-wrong timeline. Rising interest rates/QT and the end of the business cycle also do not bode well for Tesla's long term survival.

If you have channel traded Tesla in the past successfully, more power to you. It's been a great trade. Just keep in mind that's inherently a short vol strategy and those have a way of blowing up spectacularly. If Tesla ever breaks $230 or so to the downside it will likely fall a long way.

Irulan
01-24-2019, 09:02 PM
The Alliance accidentally created the Reavers by trying to use chemicals to pacify the entire population. Everyone knows that.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 09:31 PM
I will be surprised if Tesla makes it through 2019 without going bankrupt. They are not down because they laid off 7% of their workforce, but because no one wants to buy the Model 3: only 30-40,000 new orders in Q4 despite pulling demand forward due to the tax credit expiring. They have finished the American backlog and European homologation was bungled to the point that they won't be able to sell anything there before Q1 finishes.

Q1 is going to be a bloodbath. Even Elon in his latest memo said something like 'with a huge amount of hard work and luck we might be able to break even in Q1'. This is from the most optimistic (or most fraudulent, depending on your viewpoint) guy in the world who previously claimed that investors should have 'no concern at all that Tesla would fail to produce 10,000 M3/week by the end of 2018'.

Keep in mind that even if Tesla were able to maintain $300m a quarter, at a generous auto P/E of 10 that equates to a $12 billion valuation and a share price of $50. So the market is pricing in 6x growth, only Tesla has already maxed out the Fremont plant and cannot possibly grow at all without Shanghai, which won't be ready for another year even on Tesla's literally-always-wrong timeline. Rising interest rates/QT and the end of the business cycle also do not bode well for Tesla's long term survival.

If you have channel traded Tesla in the past successfully, more power to you. It's been a great trade. Just keep in mind that's inherently a short vol strategy and those have a way of blowing up spectacularly. If Tesla ever breaks $230 or so to the downside it will likely fall a long way.
I hear ya. I have stoploss orders in place as well, and i dont really give too much of a shit on the actual value the company deserves to be priced at; reality is their share value is largely contingent upon the millennial investor, who is largely ruled by the "eco-friendly" narrative. Ive been toying with riding both nio and tesla up, and then dumping them on the fall for the past several months. In reality, NIO has a much better chance at being viable longterm, with china's support and the close relationship with their parts manufacturers but they will remain ebbing and flowing between 6.5 and 7 until trump brokers a deal with china later this year.

Anyways, back to tesla, In this scenario, im fairly confident that eco-minded optimism will come through one or two more times before the stark reality of business fundamentals comes in to play here. This is largely why i mentioned the pull n wait strategy come the 6th of february, when tesla could be on the hook for making a loan payment with company cash if their valuation doesnt surge back up to 360+/share to keep the sharks off their back. If it induces a panic we could very well see tesla dive back down to sub200/share where many analysts are saying they rightfully should be priced at.

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 09:37 PM
I will be surprised if Tesla makes it through 2019 without going bankrupt. They are not down because they laid off 7% of their workforce, but because no one wants to buy the Model 3: only 30-40,000 new orders in Q4 despite pulling demand forward due to the tax credit expiring. They have finished the American backlog and European homologation was bungled to the point that they won't be able to sell anything there before Q1 finishes.

Q1 is going to be a bloodbath. Even Elon in his latest memo said something like 'with a huge amount of hard work and luck we might be able to break even in Q1'. This is from the most optimistic (or most fraudulent, depending on your viewpoint) guy in the world who previously claimed that investors should have 'no concern at all that Tesla would fail to produce 10,000 M3/week by the end of 2018'.

Keep in mind that even if Tesla were able to maintain $300m a quarter, at a generous auto P/E of 10 that equates to a $12 billion valuation and a share price of $50. So the market is pricing in 6x growth, only Tesla has already maxed out the Fremont plant and cannot possibly grow at all without Shanghai, which won't be ready for another year even on Tesla's literally-always-wrong timeline. Rising interest rates/QT and the end of the business cycle also do not bode well for Tesla's long term survival.

If you have channel traded Tesla in the past successfully, more power to you. It's been a great trade. Just keep in mind that's inherently a short vol strategy and those have a way of blowing up spectacularly. If Tesla ever breaks $230 or so to the downside it will likely fall a long way.

really good post dude

how can you be this knowledgeable about mathematics but be such a dolt when it comes to politics? Have you sought Christ?

Patriam1066
01-24-2019, 09:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZNvlBAF60

This is a pretty honest, brilliant analysis on how we ended up with Trump. And I agree and have fallen into some of the pitfalls he describes.

So, I'd like to apologize to SC, Throndor, Mick and crew. We didn't engage in proper discourse and name-called each other rather than talking about the actual politics/positions (you guys were just as bad, so don't suck your own dicks too much).

I'll try to stick to the policies and positions more in the future.

build the wall dude. I am brown and will vote for a Neo nazi if you y'all don't stop giving money to freeloading ass holes who don't speak English. Thanks and god bless

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 09:47 PM
I will be surprised if Tesla makes it through 2019 without going bankrupt. They are not down because they laid off 7% of their workforce, but because no one wants to buy the Model 3: only 30-40,000 new orders in Q4 despite pulling demand forward due to the tax credit expiring. They have finished the American backlog and European homologation was bungled to the point that they won't be able to sell anything there before Q1 finishes.

Q1 is going to be a bloodbath. Even Elon in his latest memo said something like 'with a huge amount of hard work and luck we might be able to break even in Q1'. This is from the most optimistic (or most fraudulent, depending on your viewpoint) guy in the world who previously claimed that investors should have 'no concern at all that Tesla would fail to produce 10,000 M3/week by the end of 2018'.

Keep in mind that even if Tesla were able to maintain $300m a quarter, at a generous auto P/E of 10 that equates to a $12 billion valuation and a share price of $50. So the market is pricing in 6x growth, only Tesla has already maxed out the Fremont plant and cannot possibly grow at all without Shanghai, which won't be ready for another year even on Tesla's literally-always-wrong timeline. Rising interest rates/QT and the end of the business cycle also do not bode well for Tesla's long term survival.

If you have channel traded Tesla in the past successfully, more power to you. It's been a great trade. Just keep in mind that's inherently a short vol strategy and those have a way of blowing up spectacularly. If Tesla ever breaks $230 or so to the downside it will likely fall a long way.

Has Tesla said anything concerning rising costs due to China's stranglehold on the rare-earth minerals that are used in their hilariously un-ecofriendly batteries?

Throndor
01-24-2019, 09:50 PM
Has Tesla said anything concerning rising costs due to China's stranglehold on the rare-earth minerals that are used in their hilariously un-ecofriendly batteries?

The rare earth metals are primarily mined in africa; notably the congo. Wheaton precious metals owns most of the cobalt mines which seems to be the limiting ingredient in EV batteries. I hold stock it that too.

Ahldagor
01-24-2019, 09:58 PM
The rare earth metals are primarily mined in africa; notably the congo. Wheaton precious metals owns most of the cobalt mines which seems to be the limiting ingredient in EV batteries. I hold stock it that too.

Um, no. China is still the world's top producer and miner of rare earth minerals.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 10:10 PM
That may be true, but the metal in least supply is the cobalt.

Throndor
01-24-2019, 10:14 PM
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/electric-vehicles/electric-cars-battery-life-materials-cost#.XEpxTGmIY0M

Raev
01-24-2019, 10:19 PM
In this scenario, im fairly confident that eco-minded optimism will come through one or two more times before the stark reality of business fundamentals comes in to play here.

To quote Yogi Berra, it's hard to make predictions, especially about the future. You could certainly be right, and Musk is a genius stock promoter. My personal prediction is that Q1 is the end. Once it becomes obvious that TSLA can't even sell the 250K model 3s from Fremont, where is the growth narrative that is supporting this ridiculous pricing?

Has Tesla said anything concerning rising costs due to China's stranglehold on the rare-earth minerals that are used in their hilariously un-ecofriendly batteries?

That's the funny thing about TSLA: they aren't ecological at all. You haven't even talked about how most of the electricity comes from coal, or how their workers aren't unionized and have relatively poor working conditions.

how can you be this knowledgeable about mathematics but be such a dolt when it comes to politics?

It is precisely this knowledge of mathematics and science which has lead me to my political positions. Modern America has forgotten that life is a struggle to survive. Nothing is free! But you are too enervated to accept this after a lifetime of ease, and they know this. The founders would have started shooting long ago.

Anyway, I only posted here to bash TSLA. You may now return to insulting each other for another 2000 pages.

mickmoranis
01-24-2019, 10:59 PM
google: is ruth bater ginsberg still alive

Wonkie
01-24-2019, 11:24 PM
ok google give mick a wedgie

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 12:20 AM
she's cool and all and I pray for her but I cant help but wanting to see that shitshow

Patriam1066
01-25-2019, 08:51 AM
ok google give mick a wedgie

laika triggers me. The Russians are such pieces of shit that they'd send a dog to die alone in space. Now they're talking about Venezuela. Have they not heard of the Monroe doctrine? It's our hemisphere. Time to make the Cold War a bit warmer

PS: Putin is a midget who left his wife for a muslim. He will die and never entire Valhalla

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 09:06 AM
laika triggers me. The Russians are such pieces of shit that they'd send a dog to die alone in space. Now they're talking about Venezuela. Have they not heard of the Monroe doctrine? It's our hemisphere. Time to make the Cold War a bit warmer

PS: Putin is a midget who left his wife for a muslim. He will die and never entire Valhalla

Largest oil reserves in the world, so we're proly getting a Syria in our backyard. Refugee crisis incoming I'm betting.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 09:12 AM
laika triggers me

All dogs go to heaven, except laika.

Patriam1066
01-25-2019, 09:13 AM
They're already pouring into Brazil and Colombia

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 10:23 AM
They're already pouring into Brazil and Colombia

True, but that's on Maduro at the moment. Tariff imports on raw materials, manufacturing decreases to a virtual stand still, pikachu face, so blame the US for meddling while ignoring the fact Goldman Sachs gave you a few billion dollars.

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 10:23 AM
All dogs go to heaven, except laika.

Ever watch the tv series from that movie?

Irulan
01-25-2019, 10:24 AM
Ya'll hearing about that black face tranny secretary of state that just resigned in FL

Fucking pissed they are chasing tranny Republicans outa politics.

He was super queer looking too, definitely a grade A trap soy boy material.

Seriously the world just needs to realize weirdo Nazis are the only path to prosperity.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 10:25 AM
They're already pouring into Brazil and Colombia

What's fucking sad is these little bitches could easily take over their country if they grew a fucking pair and organized.

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 10:27 AM
Ya'll hearing about that black face tranny secretary of state that just resigned in FL

Fucking pissed they are chasing tranny Republicans outa politics.

He was super queer looking too, definitely a grade A trap soy boy material.

Seriously the world just needs to realize weirdo Nazis are the only path to prosperity.

Nazi regalia and homosexual culture in the 70's?

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 10:29 AM
What's fucking sad is these little bitches could easily take over their country if they grew a fucking pair and organized.

True. Maduro still has the military backing him with Russian and Chinese military support tho'.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 10:47 AM
True. Maduro still has the military backing him with Russian and Chinese military support tho'.

The best they could do is carpet bomb their own civilian infrastructures, while guerrilla tactics would be highly effective against expensive and hard to maintain military hardware and logistics. Also the natives are totally adapted and tbh our special ops "should not ever be there".

*cheers at the south American Vietnam* where we play the roll of China.

Asteria
01-25-2019, 11:07 AM
Send all worldwide oil to Mars ASAP.

Steal all oil money from Saudi Arabia Asap.

Move Mecca to Caracas. Move Medina to Texas

Muslimize Latin America

Irulan
01-25-2019, 11:39 AM
I just want to live long enough to see pizza hut become theee martian megacorp.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 11:58 AM
google: is ruth bater ginsberg still alive

https://i.imgur.com/62QJyBy.jpg

Irulan
01-25-2019, 12:04 PM
^^ obvios filters. (she looks 40).

I hope we get at least one more SC Justice pick b4 2020.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 12:36 PM
If we got another SC pick before 2020 I think there would utter chaos and bloodshed in the streets.

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 12:49 PM
If we got another SC pick before 2020 I think there would utter chaos and bloodshed in the streets.

honestly, I hate talkinga bout this because its someone's life and family member, but if she did die, it would be so.... interesting.

Cus if you google her name, google auto searches "shows no signs" "in remission" "doing great" articles.

and I dont believe mainstream media, and it'd be nice to have evidence of them pumping a ton MORE propaganda into your living rooms, considering in the last week we've caught them pumping anti maga white kid propaganda, anti trump buzfeed propaganda, and just regular pro globalist establishment propaganda all up into your butthole.

like, to a lefty, the ability to feel safe and secure in knowing that RBG is healthy, is definitely propaganda.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 01:02 PM
honestly, I hate talkinga bout this because its someone's life and family member, but if she did die, it would be so.... interesting.

Cus if you google her name, google auto searches "shows no signs" "in remission" "doing great" articles.

and I dont believe mainstream media, and it'd be nice to have evidence of them pumping a ton MORE propaganda into your living rooms, considering in the last week we've caught them pumping anti maga white kid propaganda, anti trump buzfeed propaganda, and just regular pro globalist establishment propaganda all up into your butthole.

like, to a lefty, the ability to feel safe and secure in knowing that RBG is healthy, is definitely propaganda.

Maybe animatronic digital animation (aka carrie fisher) already?

Do you think ole'trumpy irontoe would participate in this for $$$ gainz n security, especially if kompromized or blackfacemailed?

Patriam1066
01-25-2019, 01:17 PM
If we got another SC pick before 2020 I think there would utter chaos and bloodshed in the streets.

The death of the republic. We aren’t ready yet. Probably end up with Sulla, not Augustus

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 01:50 PM
America is not in a decline and its republic is not coming to an end, this is globalist hogwash.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 01:55 PM
America is not in a decline and its republic is not coming to an end, this is globalist hogwash.

We still need to get rid of the excess parisites though.

*serves up a nice spicy hot chilli*

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 02:16 PM
Cant wait for this roger stone arrest to uncover the corruption, and that corruption is that the FBI is working the media to make propaganda for a political party.

You dont need to worry about Russian influence, if our own media is influencing our electorate at the direction of a political party or entity.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 02:23 PM
Cant wait for this roger stone arrest to uncover the corruption, and that corruption is that the FBI is working the media to make propaganda for a political party.

You dont need to worry about Russian influence, if our own media is influencing our electorate at the direction of a political party or entity.

The entire investigation is a cover-up for the previous administration's abuse of power. They were lazy enough not to cover their tracks because they were confident Clinton was going to win.

Now that Trump is in office, they're in panic mode.

They won't end the investigation because they literally do not have evidence to impeach.

They're going to keep the investigation going so they can use it to cause Trump to lose re-election. Once that happens, they'll dump the investigation and go "Welp, we couldn't find anything."

Then when Trump is gone, it'll go back to business as usual, with a President who won't hold them accountable.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 02:31 PM
The entire investigation is a cover-up for the previous administration's abuse of power. They were lazy enough not to cover their tracks because they were confident Clinton was going to win.

Now that Trump is in office, they're in panic mode.

They won't end the investigation because they literally do not have evidence to impeach.

They're going to keep the investigation going so they can use it to cause Trump to lose re-election. Once that happens, they'll dump the investigation and go "Welp, we couldn't find anything."

Then when Trump is gone, it'll go back to business as usual, with a President who won't hold them accountable.

What about Shillary tho.

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 03:48 PM
you COULD do something to stop mass shootings, but telling people you disagree with that they're murderers for believing in our fundamental rights is more fun:

https://i.imgur.com/almBJzb.png

and of course the federal government doesn't care about you or your issues, they care about the one that will give power to politicians.

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 03:50 PM
We still need to get rid of the excess parisites though.

*serves up a nice spicy hot chilli*

chili sounds good

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 03:52 PM
They won't end the investigation because they literally do not have evidence to impeach.



you don't need evidence to impeach, you silly goose.

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 03:55 PM
Im gonna watch this bad boy now that I just found out that Roger Stone is my hero: https://youtu.be/5IPyv4KgTAA

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 04:04 PM
you don't need evidence to impeach, you silly goose.

You do if you want to convince others to vote for it.

Throndor
01-25-2019, 04:06 PM
Youll get no input from me today.

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 04:07 PM
you don't need evidence to impeach, you silly goose.

You do if you want to convince others to vote for it.

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 04:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jvckN6L.jpg

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 04:21 PM
You need to convince others to vote for impeachment.

rebeccablack
01-25-2019, 04:25 PM
The entire investigation is a cover-up for the previous administration's abuse of power. They were lazy enough not to cover their tracks because they were confident Clinton was going to win.

Now that Trump is in office, they're in panic mode.
yeah they must be just floored that so many people in the campaign actually committed crimes, what a happy accident for them

Ahldagor
01-25-2019, 04:34 PM
Im gonna watch this bad boy now that I just found out that Roger Stone is my hero: https://youtu.be/5IPyv4KgTAA

It wasn't that good.

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 04:37 PM
You need to convince others to vote for impeachment.

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1088880429686575106
https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/1088893803291906048

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 06:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Izy09wV.jpg

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 06:49 PM
We're not overthrowing Maduro, Wankie

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 07:00 PM
We're not overthrowing Maduro, Wankie

what would you call it? :rolleyes:

Throndor
01-25-2019, 07:07 PM
LOL There we go. It took an extra day for the left to tell Wonkie what he thinks regarding the Venezuela crisis. He must've downloaded his opinions via USB while he was sleeping till 1oclock.

We have a totalitarian government that the people are rebelling against after a rigged election; with the current regime backed by RUSSIA and CHINA, BUT because Trump is against Maduro the left is aligning themselves with a Tyrant.

Who's the NPC bitch? Why did you have to wait until your side chose for you to have an opinion on it? Stupid ass NPC

Throndor
01-25-2019, 07:09 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/world/americas/venezuela-election-president-maduro-food.html

Vote for me! (and i won't starve you, right now)

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 07:09 PM
what would you call it? :rolleyes:

A failed state.

Throndor
01-25-2019, 07:14 PM
Dude, dont even entertain this faggot. I asked him point-blank yesterday to declare his position on venezuela. He had to wait a day for his faggot comrades to develop memes for him to post to respond with his "opinion".

That, in and of itself, invalidates any position he could possibly have, organically, regarding the matter.

When you have to wait for the hive to make up your goddamned mind for you, that is the literal definition of an NPC.

Fuck this lame, not even a real human with agency.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 07:16 PM
Dude, dont even entertain this faggot. I asked him point-blank yesterday to declare his position on venezuela. He had to wait a day for his faggot comrades to develop memes for him to post to respond with his "opinion".

That, in and of itself, invalidates any position he could possibly have, organically, regarding the matter.

When you have to wait for the hive to make up your goddamned mind for you, that is the literal definition of an NPC.

Fuck this lame, not even a real human with agency.

Oh I know Wonkie doesn't have an original thought in his head, but I just like making him defend a dictator :D

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 07:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7nCJ0ce.jpg

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 07:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/yMuCI8G.jpg

Patriam1066
01-25-2019, 07:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/yMuCI8G.jpg

Hahahaha it is dude. Can’t wait to drop 100 g’s in citgo stock after it tanks

Patriam1066
01-25-2019, 07:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Izy09wV.jpg
He’s mismanaging the government. Also. Macron is helping us in Syria and Africa, duh. France is a loyal vassal, and jarnauga will be sent to the front lines if lady liberty asks for it. The Venezuelans chose defiance. Actions have consequences. The empire always collects its due

mickmoranis
01-25-2019, 07:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7nCJ0ce.jpg

all of those are us backing socialist coups in non socialist countries lol

Irulan
01-25-2019, 07:45 PM
He’s mismanaging the government. Also. Macron is helping us in Syria and Africa, duh. France is a loyal vassal, and jarnauga will be sent to the front lines if lady liberty asks for it. The Venezuelans chose defiance. Actions have consequences. The empire always collects its due

Patriam smartest wokest patriach on the boards. Even using woke words like vassal.

I am serious.

Serious props dude, you're swaying my opinion intensely.

Throndor
01-25-2019, 08:06 PM
He’s mismanaging the government. Also. Macron is helping us in Syria and Africa, duh. France is a loyal vassal, and jarnauga will be sent to the front lines if lady liberty asks for it. The Venezuelans chose defiance. Actions have consequences. The empire always collects its due


Lets not forget that Macron is unpopular in France because hes a leftist cuck. Its funny to see the left throw their own allies under the bus to make a snappy meme.

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 08:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7nCJ0ce.jpg

This is a meme that losers post when they can't face the fact that their economic pipe dream is straight shit.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 08:09 PM
Hehehe (https://www.netflix.com/title/80145141)

Definitely going to watch this and report back.

*edit fixed url

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 08:11 PM
Speaking of which, Socialists are TERRIBLE at making memes....holy shit...

https://i.imgur.com/gc8GHFZ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Irulan
01-25-2019, 08:16 PM
Speaking of which, Socialists are TERRIBLE at making memes....holy shit...

https://i.imgur.com/gc8GHFZ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Ya lolz. I fucking hate it when they brigade tranny boards. I have actively been swinging my bootheal at the hammer n sickle types for awhile now

Throndor
01-25-2019, 08:18 PM
This is a meme that losers post when they can't face the fact that their economic pipe dream is straight shit.

If socialism is a sustainable model, it wouldn't require the assistance of the rest of the world's economy to make it work. That's kind of the whole theoretical point of socialism, building a closed-loop community/country that works, at-cost, to sustain itself.

Throndor
01-25-2019, 08:20 PM
Ya lolz. I fucking hate it when they brigade tranny boards. I have actively been swinging my bootheal at the hammer n sickle types for awhile now

I like how they accuse the trump administration of using Russian Propaganda to win the 2016 election, whilst they actively support Russian Propaganda on the viability of socialism.

Irulan
01-25-2019, 08:21 PM
If socialism is a sustainable model, it wouldn't require the assistance of the rest of the world's economy to make it work. That's kind of the whole theoretical point of socialism, building a closed-loop community/country that works, at-cost, to sustain itself.

On small scales we just wind up with sparsely populated inbred medieval communities.

No EQ if socialism = true

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 08:24 PM
If socialism is a sustainable model, it wouldn't require the assistance of the rest of the world's economy to make it work. That's kind of the whole theoretical point of socialism, building a closed-loop community/country that works, at-cost, to sustain itself.

Socialists also think that the US is still out to get them.

This isn't the Cold War.

And the Cold War was mostly about preventing the spread of the Soviet Union, not Communism.

Any sanctions we do have are due to actions done in the past while under the influence of the USSR.

The US doesn't go around attacking every Socialist country it sees.

Sorry, Socialists. You're just not that important.

Sorry you have no food :(

Wonkie
01-25-2019, 08:31 PM
yall geniuses are arguing about memes hope ur proud

ScaringChildren
01-25-2019, 08:32 PM
yall geniuses are arguing about memes hope ur proud

We're smart enough to know that Socialist countries go to shit :)

Throndor
01-25-2019, 08:54 PM
yall geniuses are arguing about memes hope ur proud

Right on, Nathan Paxton Charlesworth III.

Domo
01-25-2019, 10:29 PM
this will most likely trigger some dudes here, but this is the funniest shit Ive seen whole week:

https://i.imgur.com/sptjRfi.jpg

Mblake81
01-26-2019, 07:09 AM
Have a good time.

Mblake1981
01-26-2019, 11:29 AM
The White House says Trump donated $100,000 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.

Alcoholism is a personal issue for the president. His older brother, Fred Jr., died in 1981 after struggling with alcoholism, and the president has said he learned from his brother's experience.

Trump pledged as a candidate in 2016 to not accept the $400,000 annual presidential salary he would be due if elected.

By law, he must be paid so Trump has donated the quarterly payments to various federal departments and agencies. The departments of Education, Health and Human Services, Transportation and Veterans Affairs, among others, have accepted Trump's donations.

Cheers! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnf_GFJFAAw)

Irulan
01-26-2019, 11:32 AM
Cheers! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnf_GFJFAAw)

That's good.

Irulan
01-26-2019, 11:36 AM
TIL our medical system is keeping people alive for 30 years from infancy in vegetative states.

What happened to allowing nature to take it's course?

Are we so obsessed against fighting the nature of God's creation that we literally will torment a vessel in hellish agony, allowing it to be violated. For some kind of "social good" or ethical reasoning?

Had there been no intervention this woman's body would have passed on and she would never had been abused.

I cant possibly believe that this is a part of God's plan for us.

Ahldagor
01-26-2019, 12:46 PM
TIL our medical system is keeping people alive for 30 years from infancy in vegetative states.

What happened to allowing nature to take it's course?

Are we so obsessed against fighting the nature of God's creation that we literally will torment a vessel in hellish agony, allowing it to be violated. For some kind of "social good" or ethical reasoning?

Had there been no intervention this woman's body would have passed on and she would never had been abused.

I cant possibly believe that this is a part of God's plan for us.

nsfw:

https://imgur.com/gallery/IiLBH

Irulan
01-26-2019, 01:35 PM
nsfw:

https://imgur.com/gallery/IiLBH

That's horrific. He didn't even get to play everquest :(

Also wow.... Fucked up they totally experimented on him against his will. Maybe this is why radical groups like Aum Shinriko where popping up. Also wasn't Japan, particularly its medical system leaning more socialist?

This is the #reason I don't submit to a psych ward. Wish to die alone where no one is going to to be able to interfere or mess with my corpse.

Ahldagor
01-26-2019, 04:01 PM
That's horrific. He didn't even get to play everquest :(

Also wow.... Fucked up they totally experimented on him against his will. Maybe this is why radical groups like Aum Shinriko where popping up. Also wasn't Japan, particularly its medical system leaning more socialist?

This is the #reason I don't submit to a psych ward. Wish to die alone where no one is going to to be able to interfere or mess with my corpse.

I'm not sure about Japan's health care system, and it is fucked up. The guy virtually melted over time due to the damage done to his cells, but the do no harm aspect of medical treatment doesn't take into account mercy in some people's minds. Like they couldn't kill him because killing is the ultimate form of harm which is bullshit.

Patriam1066
01-26-2019, 06:01 PM
It’s a good idea to have an advanced directive. I need to get one. My family is very religious and would keep me alive if I were just a brain in a jar

Ahldagor
01-26-2019, 06:57 PM
It’s a good idea to have an advanced directive. I need to get one. My family is very religious and would keep me alive if I were just a brain in a jar

Yup. I'm my mother's power of attorney in such a situation because she knows I'd honor her wishes and pull the plug. Vice versa for now too.

choppedandglued
01-26-2019, 07:10 PM
That's horrific. He didn't even get to play everquest :(

Also wow.... Fucked up they totally experimented on him against his will. Maybe this is why radical groups like Aum Shinriko where popping up. Also wasn't Japan, particularly its medical system leaning more socialist?

This is the #reason I don't submit to a psych ward. Wish to die alone where no one is going to to be able to interfere or mess with my corpse.

/consent me I'll drag it somewhere safe

choppedandglued
01-26-2019, 07:14 PM
nsfw:

https://imgur.com/gallery/IiLBH

“I can’t take it any more… I am not a guinea pig”

is it messed up I heard that in an Asian accented voice and chuckled.. im going to hell

Patriam1066
01-26-2019, 07:16 PM
Suspected whale sighting

ScaringChildren
01-26-2019, 07:54 PM
Covington Diocese apologizes to MAGA hat kids (https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/26/covington-bishop-apologizes/)

I told you the expulsion would be reversed, Wonkie :D

ScaringChildren
01-26-2019, 07:56 PM
this will most likely trigger some dudes here, but this is the funniest shit Ive seen whole week:

https://i.imgur.com/sptjRfi.jpg

This meme is boomer-tier. It should have one of those yellow minions and comic sans in it.

You're German, so I'm not surprised you don't have a great sense of humor.

mickmoranis
01-26-2019, 08:03 PM
this will most likely trigger some dudes here, but this is the funniest shit Ive seen whole week:

https://i.imgur.com/sptjRfi.jpg

that feeling when people in Germany have up to the minuet emotional reactions to your country trying to figure out if it should build a cement wall.

ScaringChildren
01-26-2019, 09:09 PM
The Ten Year Challenge for Huffington Post

https://i.imgur.com/vSIf239_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

mickmoranis
01-27-2019, 12:07 AM
pee tape real? Plz tell me the truth pee tape real??

mickmoranis
01-27-2019, 12:18 AM
That pee tape fake.

Look this is funny tho https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1087924542780133376?s=20

Wonkie
01-27-2019, 01:59 AM
That pee tape fake.

Look this is funny tho https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1087924542780133376?s=20

which part looks fake to you?

are you just repeating your programming, NPC?

Ahldagor
01-27-2019, 05:10 AM
The piss tape is real and I've not seen a concentrated effort since the NEDM cat to try to remove somerhing from the internet.

JurisDictum
01-27-2019, 10:08 AM
The new elite’s phoney crusade to save the world – without changing anything (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/22/the-new-elites-phoney-crusade-to-save-the-world-without-changing-anything)

For the most part, these initiatives are not democratic, nor do they reflect collective problem-solving or universal solutions. Rather, they favour the use of the private sector and its charitable spoils, the market way of looking at things, and the bypassing of government. They reflect a highly influential view that the winners of an unjust status quo – and the tools and mentalities and values that helped them win – are the secret to redressing the injustices. Those at greatest risk of being resented in an age of inequality are thereby recast as our saviours from an age of inequality. Socially minded financiers at Goldman Sachs seek to change the world through “win-win” initiatives such as “green bonds” and “impact investing”. Tech companies such as Uber and Airbnb cast themselves as empowering the poor by allowing them to chauffeur people around or rent out spare rooms. Management consultants and Wall Street brains seek to convince the social sector that they should guide its pursuit of greater equality by assuming board seats and leadership positions

Once people spend enough time away from market and social ideology and give attention to actual political problems, this is only going to go one way. Elites need to offer solutions that will work, or ones will be offered in spite of them.

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 11:28 AM
The piss tape is real.

How do you feel about the moon landing?

mickmoranis
01-27-2019, 11:31 AM
which part looks fake to you?

are you just repeating your programming, NPC?

idk it just looks like it could be in a spike jones music video as much as it does look like it could be real.

Im sure if it was reel that it wouldnt be so hard to find out if it was real too

mickmoranis
01-27-2019, 11:31 AM
The new elite’s phoney crusade to save the world – without changing anything (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/22/the-new-elites-phoney-crusade-to-save-the-world-without-changing-anything)



Once people spend enough time away from market and social ideology and give attention to actual political problems, this is only going to go one way. Elites need to offer solutions that will work, or ones will be offered in spite of them.

you could have said "democratic party" instead of new elite.

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 11:33 AM
which part looks fake to you?

are you just repeating your programming, NPC?

It's fake, dude.

Stop falling for fake news. You leftists never learn, apparently.

rollin5k
01-27-2019, 12:13 PM
accepting deception can feel good

Wonkie
01-27-2019, 12:22 PM
The piss tape is real

the lamestream media doesn't want you to know.

JurisDictum
01-27-2019, 12:41 PM
David Stockman, President Reagan’s budget director, also confirmed that TDE was a sham. He was one of the architects of supply-side economics who finally turned against the doctrine. To get the Reagan tax cuts passed, he helped design a policy that would give tiny tax cuts for most Americans and big tax cuts to the wealthy. Stockman said:

“Giving small tax cuts across the board to all brackets was simply a 'Trojan Horse' that was used to get approval for the huge top brackets cuts. Trickle Down was a term used by Republicans that meant giving tax cuts to the rich.

“There is no realistic way for 'Trickle-Down' economics to work and increase the income of the working classes of America. In fact, I am certain that the developers of the theory of 'Trickle-Down' economics were fully aware of this and that 'Trickle-Down' has in fact worked as intended. This means that the intent behind implementing 'Trickle-Down' was to benefit the wealthiest Americans at the expense of working class Americans. 'Trickle-Down' hasn't failed, as many modern economists have suggested, it has succeeded in its goals, which is the increase of economic inequality and the shift of a greater portion of America's wealth into the hands of the wealthiest Americans."

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 04:24 PM
Poor JD over here is writing a book and no one is responding to him.

Whatcha got, bud?

50/50 chance it's something I disagree with.

Sorry, I didn't read it yet.

If I agree with it, my response is "Hell yeah".

If it has anything to do with Socialism, you get one of these: :(

Mead
01-27-2019, 07:07 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger-stone-appears-to-open-door-to-cooperating-with-mueller-after-dramatic-predawn-arrest

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 07:22 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger-stone-appears-to-open-door-to-cooperating-with-mueller-after-dramatic-predawn-arrest

Oh no, they got him!

A Twitter activist, who wasn't affiliated with the campaign at the time of the investigation, is your hope for impeachment lol

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 07:24 PM
Gillette's new commercial failed hard. Marketing department thinks it was good anyway. (https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gillette-advert-toxic-masculinity-sales-impact-a8745966.html)

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 07:29 PM
Hillary Clinton is running for president again lol (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/427156-clinton-not-ruling-out-running-in-2020-report)

Mead
01-27-2019, 07:30 PM
Oh no, they got him!

A Twitter activist, who wasn't affiliated with the campaign at the time of the investigation, is your hope for impeachment lol

Roger stone may be a criminal but whatever they got him for wont stick and it took them 3 years to find something that might.

I think Im not too worried about my democracy as far as he's concerned, and the rogue agents working with the press to prop up democrat politicans are the real threat

just thought this was funny

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 07:34 PM
just thought this was funny

How is it funny?

We're two separate people.

I know leftists all think the same, because they're soulless, hive-minded, drones but conservatives actually believe in nuance and diversity of thought.

I know you think diversity of thought is a hate crime, but you really should embrace it.

Critical thinking is healthy. :D

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 07:47 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger-stone-appears-to-open-door-to-cooperating-with-mueller-after-dramatic-predawn-arrest

Did you even read the article?

"Uh, you know, That's a question I'll have to determine after my attorneys have some discussion," Stone said, when asked about a potential cooperation deal. "If there's wrongdoing by other people in the campaign that I know about, which I know of none, but if there is, I would certainly testify honestly. I'd also testify honestly about any other matter, including any communications with the president."

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 08:19 PM
After being told to "Learn to code", in response to losing jobs to China, Trump supporters tell Buzzfeed and Huffington Post journalists who were laid off, to "learn to code". (https://dev.to/jorgecc/huffpostbuzzfeed-and-the-learn-to-code-6fd)

Got em.

Lune
01-27-2019, 08:21 PM
After being told to "Learn to code", in response to losing jobs to China, Trump supporters tell Buzzfeed and Huffington Post journalists who were laid off, to "learn to code". (https://dev.to/jorgecc/huffpostbuzzfeed-and-the-learn-to-code-6fd)

Got em.

Handful of journalists

vs.

Entire region and social strata of the American economy

wow sure showed them

ScaringChildren
01-27-2019, 08:28 PM
Handful of journalists

vs.

Entire region and social strata of the American economy

wow sure showed them

Yeah, they're totally not mad lol (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/4chan-trolls-flood-laid-huffpost-buzzfeed-reporters-death-threats-n963001)

Irulan
01-27-2019, 08:31 PM
Sad but true, Chinese basically own all the brothels in the ME too.

So like, coming to a small US town near u

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 09:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/RRERIlt_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Mead
01-28-2019, 09:33 AM
https://i.imgur.com/RRERIlt_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

you're taking this hard buddy

will be praying for you (not)

maskedmelon
01-28-2019, 09:46 AM
I was thinking 🤔 Kamala Harris is pretty sharp and aggressive and despite being a total douche would make a pretty good president (maybe) if she didn't have brain rot.


Also, excited at the possibility of Schultz running and like Warren's wealth tax proposal.

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 10:07 AM
you're taking this hard buddy

will be praying for you (not)

Did you just make a "not" joke?

Apparently Everquest isn't the only thing stuck in '99 around here...

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 10:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/144K3yv.png

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 11:01 AM
New NBC/WSJ POLL: Nancy Pelosi is the least popular politician in America, support for her fell more during the shutdown (https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1089530472668061696)

Irulan
01-28-2019, 11:16 AM
I was thinking �� Kamala Harris is pretty sharp and aggressive and despite being a total douche would make a pretty good president (maybe) if she didn't have brain rot.


Also, excited at the possibility of Schultz running and like Warren's wealth tax proposal.

Kamala extract isn't fuckin popular among the cylons I think.

Anyway. Ya. We need a sharp, vicious, bloodthirsty dem with a squeaky queen whistle who will re-align the party, and murder the undesirables, while avoiding the welfare pit. But, really that aught to be a centrist position.

Surrounded by rotting meat. And I just don't even know what to do. :(

Question: Mm you are for the greatest good, not the greatest good for "all" right?

In my very personal opinion. There is no "greater good for all". Once we start accepting a group as the lowest common denominator and allowing it to set the low standards of living humans seem to tolerate and expect so well, we wind up with an unsustainable, and stagnating system.

Backed up sewer pipes and a lead lined water supply, so to speak.

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 11:26 AM
Democrats need a bold, charismatic, populist who defies the Neo-Liberals and doesn't think white men are public enemy number one.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the closest thing to that, but she's young and stupid and fully supports alienating white men.

Democrats support:


corporate-loving politicians who call for war and don't listen to constituents

calling for war against white men

It's amazing that they get any votes at all.

Irulan
01-28-2019, 11:36 AM
Democrats need a bold, charismatic, populist who defies the Neo-Liberals and doesn't think white men are public enemy number one.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the closest thing to that, but she's young and stupid and fully supports alienating white men.

Democrats support:


corporate-loving politicians who call for war and don't listen to constituents

calling for war against white men

It's amazing that they get any votes at all.

This is accurate IMO. I don't really want a social welfare state tho.

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 11:36 AM
I wonder why Huffington Post had to lay off empl...oh...

https://i.imgur.com/gFMUMdx.jpg

Irulan
01-28-2019, 11:39 AM
hahahahaha, all my fucking "female" pants DONT have pockets while all my dresses do.

I sit and think "what the fuck is this, at least I can keep my hands warm if wearing a dress...

but wearing dresses is when I am most likely to be dressed well and have other hand warming accessories, so, like WTF pants, why are you so sexist?

I agree SC totally, this shit is assinine

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 11:59 AM
Democrats support:


calling for war against white men



lol (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-threat-canadians-fifth-estate-1.4992184)

maskedmelon
01-28-2019, 12:26 PM
Kamala extract isn't fuckin popular among the cylons I think.

Anyway. Ya. We need a sharp, vicious, bloodthirsty dem with a squeaky queen whistle who will re-align the party, and murder the undesirables, while avoiding the welfare pit. But, really that aught to be a centrist position.

Surrounded by rotting meat. And I just don't even know what to do. :(

Question: Mm you are for the greatest good, not the greatest good for "all" right?

In my very personal opinion. There is no "greater good for all". Once we start accepting a group as the lowest common denominator and allowing it to set the low standards of living humans seem to tolerate and expect so well, we wind up with an unsustainable, and stagnating system.

Backed up sewer pipes and a lead lined water supply, so to speak.

I'm not a fan of misery. I'm for meaningful existence and progresss. Leftist ideology promulgates nihilism and offers neverending conflict with phantom oppressors as sanctuary. The individual is sacred so long as he is restrained from destroying himself.

Irulan
01-28-2019, 12:33 PM
The individual is sacred so long as he is restrained from destroying himself.

:blank_faced_stare:

(I get what you mean)

ScaringChildren
01-28-2019, 12:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4tc7NhL_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium