******Official politics thread ******

[Mead]

Looks like the murderer was a leftist or at least leftist ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGv1NZX0rc

"liberals swallowed part of his media strategy"

as she quotes and tries to make sense of a lunatics manifesto

good stuff very credible

hope you link some more stuff for us

[Caldwin]

"5 Stories the Media Was Afraid To Tell You:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq2SOvXkddo

Includes:
1) Wasteful spending
2) Censorship of an app at the Apple store that debunks global warming narratives
3) Obama department of justice told FBI not to charge Hilary Clinton
4) Beto O'Rourke pledge not to take money from oil and gas lobby, yet took $460,000
5) Ron DeSantis cracks down on sanctuary cities

[DMN]

Throndor basically same beliefs as the murderer and dropped the f bomb before I called it quits

Looks like everything played out accordingly

LOL. Oh no, not the F bomb. What will the 30 and 40 year olds in this forum ever do to purge it from their virgin ears.

[Caldwin]

hope you link some more stuff for us

Did you see the videos I posted early morning yesterday (3/15/19) in this thread?
They were mostly about the global warming hoax and the grand solar minimum. Also a video on censorship.

[Irulan]

Greenpeace founder attacks AOC's green new deal and is ripped to shreds by the left. Greenpeace denies he was a founder, but caught trying to cover it up. Greenpeace tried scrub their sight that listed him as a founder. Good thing there is a way back site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RL-j_lN-6E

Yes. My sister is a hardcore militant environmentalalist. She hates AOC and Biden. They are corrupt mother fuckers. Shit like the green new deal won't do shit but piss taxpayer money down the drain while making rich ppl have it easier with gated infrastructure that makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside.

We are really fucked ppl. There's ZERO heroes out there in government and politics. It is gonna be a rough ride unless we become self sufficient from the government.

[Patriam1066]

My life improved dramatically once I stopped looking for, albeit perfectly valid, things to blame my problems on. I mean I was right, in a way, but looking for and finding external reasons why things suck absolves any responsibility on your own end, which is ultimately paralyzing. Most of that perceived adversity ended up just being phantoms in my head when I finally turned to face it.

Locus of control is an important psychological concept. Do you have control over events in your life or are you at the mercy of external factors? Pick one. Either answer is right. It comes down to perspective. The thing is, people with an internal locus of control fare a lot better in life.

You can look at life one of two ways.
1. I’m blessed to not be in Africa getting shit on by Ebola morons
2. Life sucks that I’m not rich with a Colombian girlfriend

Both things are true from most people’s objective positions in life. Life could almost always be either easier or harder. It’s dedinitely all about perspective. Also, it’s absolitely critical to avoid social isolation and find friends that are emotionally intelligent and empowering. My youngest son went through it seems 2 or 3 groups of absolutely toxic friends before he figured this out

[Patriam1066]

Wow y’all went nuts in this thread the past day or so. Probably seek Christ. Watch out for Christchurch though

[Irulan]

You can look at life one of two ways.
1. I’m blessed to not be in Africa getting shit on by Ebola morons
2. Life sucks that I’m not rich with a Colombian girlfriend

Both things are true from most people’s objective positions in life. Life could almost always be either easier or harder. It’s dedinitely all about perspective. Also, it’s absolitely critical to avoid social isolation and find friends that are emotionally intelligent and empowering. My youngest son went through it seems 2 or 3 groups of absolutely toxic friends before he figured this out

+1

It's worth it to risk getting shit on to seek out said friends as well. Life isn't going to hand us pals. Also we have to be friends. If you can't friend. R. I. P. ur fucked. Unless you are a genuine psychopath. Which you probably aren't.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/4IzCGoe.jpg

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/4IzCGoe.jpg

You might want do a bit of research on matt doyle before you look especially silly.

[Mead]

LOL. Oh no, not the F bomb. What will the 30 and 40 year olds in this forum ever do to purge it from their virgin ears.

If you think i mean fuck then you aren’t very bright. The other f bomb is trashy, very low class, and could potentially offend some of my fellow questers, and I wouldn’t offend someone in that way. It’s a very hateful word.

[Wonkie]

You might want do a bit of research on matt doyle before you look especially silly.

how do you figure?

[Irulan]

I don't F bomb in support groups. But that's more of a personal choice I don't often explain unless asked.

Of course I f bomb here as it's pretty functional for neckbeard level philosophy.

[DMN]

how do you figure?

So now you've moved from silly to stupid? Good show. Do try again.

[Wonkie]

So now you've moved from silly to stupid? Good show. Do try again.

debate me u coward

[DMN]

debate me u coward

You must first defeat sheng long.

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/4AIJKB3.jpg

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/VbxGZ9T.jpg

[America]

trygger babs

[I Felt Nostalgic]

https://i.imgur.com/VbxGZ9T.jpg

Because nobody will notice that shit.

[feniin]

People who flaunt their gun ownership like it's their only interest or interesting thing about them are just about the worst. It's so trashy.

[DMN]

People who flaunt their gun ownership like it's their only interest or interesting thing about them are just about the worst. It's so trashy.

Almost as bad as virtue signalers.

[Irulan]

https://youtu.be/0Ja4mUIO4mw

[feniin]

Almost as bad as virtue signalers.

Fight me. I'll punch you in your 2A throat. Wuss.

[Cecily]

To be perfectly honest, I’m ok with it because that knowing that guy over there has a gun on him is pretty interesting, for a number of reasons.

[Irulan]

People who flaunt their gun ownership like it's their only interest or interesting thing about them are just about the worst. It's so trashy.

Until the world is a safe place u best be prepared if you don't want to be a victim.

Protip:you cannot make the world safe. Nor will your gubbamint.

[Wonkie]

To be perfectly honest, I’m ok with it because that knowing that guy over there has a gun on him is pretty interesting, for a number of reasons.

im always packing heat (https://youtu.be/4kU0XCVey_U)

[DMN]

I saw a cool gif when I was drunk one night. Looked like a black trany who was wielding a gun while doing flips and shit -- in high heels. Like really high heels. Was pretty impressive. Would like to see it again, but like hell am I searching the internet with those search terms.

[feniin]

Until the world is a safe place u best be prepared if you don't want to be a victim.

Protip:you cannot make the world safe. Nor will your gubbamint.

Or everyone could stop being a little bitch and learn to handle their problems without guns?

Or just stop preparing yourself to be a victim all the time? Like... nobody is out to get you.

[Cecily]

im always packing heat (https://youtu.be/4kU0XCVey_U)

Yeah I was gonna make a joke about yoga pants showing off all the guns you’re packing, but I couldn’t do it without making transwoman the target of the joke and that made it less funny to me.

[feniin]

I saw a cool gif when I was drunk one night. Looked like a black trany who was wielding a gun while doing flips and shit -- in high heels. Like really high heels. Was pretty impressive. Would like to see it again, but like hell am I searching the internet with those search terms.

Pretty sure Dino had that bookmarked. You can get it from him when he comes back.

[Wonkie]

Yeah I was gonna make a joke about yoga pants showing off all the guns you’re packing, but I couldn’t do it without making transwoman the target of the joke and that made it less funny to me.

football pants are kinda like yoga pants. and sometimes you do get a peek :D

[DMN]

Or everyone could stop being a little bitch and learn to handle their problems without guns?

Or just stop preparing yourself to be a victim all the time? Like... nobody is out to get you.

i really hope this was a poor attempt to channel andrew dice clay's "mano y mano".

[Irulan]

Ya I wanted to find the gif of a bomb ass hot lady with two guns and 3 knives in her short club dress.


Genuinely it's sad people feel the need to be armed at church. This is a fact of life now.

I blame hateful assholes without any compassion. That doesn't mean we should hate. Just that I believe it's the true cause and the only way to get better is to stop hating.

[Irulan]

My penis isn't really obvious during yoga. But I am lucky there.

[feniin]

i really hope this was a poor attempt to channel andrew dice clay's "mano y mano".

Are you in a retirement home? Who the fuck channels Andrew Dice Clay?

[feniin]

Ya I wanted to find the gif of a bomb ass hot lady with two guns and 3 knives in her short club dress.


Genuinely it's sad people feel the need to be armed at church. This is a fact of life now.

I blame hateful assholes without any compassion. That doesn't mean we should hate. Just that I believe it's the true cause and the only way to get better is to stop hating.

If you feel the need to arm yourself to go out in public, you probably need a psychiatrist more than a pistol.

[misterbonkers]

I saw a cool gif when I was drunk one night. Looked like a black trany who was wielding a gun while doing flips and shit -- in high heels. Like really high heels. Was pretty impressive. Would like to see it again, but like hell am I searching the internet with those search terms.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Br-4xnvACqR/ is the source

[DMN]

Are you in a retirement home? Who the fuck channels Andrew Dice Clay?

Fake ass people trying to be tough guys.

[feniin]

Fake ass people trying to be tough guys,

Bring it, little man. :rolleyes:

[Mead]

I saw a cool gif when I was drunk one night. Looked like a black trany who was wielding a gun while doing flips and shit -- in high heels. Like really high heels. Was pretty impressive. Would like to see it again, but like hell am I searching the internet with those search terms.

https://youtu.be/qfD9rLoBg7U

[Irulan]

If you feel the need to arm yourself to go out in public, you probably need a psychiatrist more than a pistol.

I have a psychiatrist.

Also lets see you do a backflip n*x2G@

I am not a privileged fucker. Theres teenagers getting kidnapped and gunshots n shit here.

Stop acting like everywhere is your safespace. It's unreasonable and marginalizes people who you should be helping. Not asking the government to tax and police more.

[America]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWEEHOKcTnA

[DMN]

Bring it, little man. :rolleyes:

Predictably puerile.

[feniin]

I have a psychiatrist.

Also lets see you do a backflip n*x2G@

I am not a privileged fucker. Theres teenagers getting kidnapped and gunshots n shit here.

Stop acting like everywhere is your safespace. It's unreasonable and marginalizes people who you should be helping. Not asking the government to tax and police more.

That stuff is being sensationalized by a fear mongering media. I live in a low class, racially diverse area where you play the gunshot or fireworks game daily. Never once did I think I would be safer carrying a weapon. The fact that you do means you're easily influenced by the media and are living in a state of fear that you shouldn't have to.

[feniin]

Predictably puerile.

You're so cute when you're upset.

[Irulan]

That stuff is being sensationalized by a fear mongering media. I live in a low class, racially diverse area where you play the gunshot or fireworks game daily. Never once did I think I would be safer carrying a weapon. The fact that you do means you're easily influenced by the media and are living in a state of fear that you shouldn't have to.

Dude it's not about being safer. It's about not being a victim. You aren't helping to fix the problem by attacking the people willing to live their lives and stand up for themselves and the defenseless. Despite desperate living conditions. Admit that this is reality. This is America.

I wouldn't ask you to go to Iraq unnamed. Don't be a twit.

[feniin]

Dude it's not about being safer. It's about not being a victim. You aren't helping to fix the problem by attacking the people willing to live their lives and stand up for themselves and the defenseless.

I wouldn't ask you to go to Iraq unnamed. Don't be a twit.

Guns don't fix any of that and you know it.

[DMN]

You're so cute when you're upset.

Making people look stupid on the internet makes me so very angry.:mad::mad::mad:

[Cecily]

Guns don't fix any of that and you know it.

It’s less about fixing a problem and more about neutralizing a threat. The right caliber firearm won’t fix anyone, but there is some variation in stopping power so make sure you do your research before your first firearm purchase. There are some nuanced factors to consider, like what is your minimum size hole you’d feel comfortable with in the person you’re shooting, what range that person will be at, etc. Also, this should go without saying but go take a firearms safety course now.

Good luck, God bless, and have fun upholding an American tradition!

[feniin]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/

[Irulan]

Guns don't fix any of that and you know it.

Getting rid of them doesn't either. Why not take all that money and energy going towards politics and attacking weapons and put it towards liberty and health and education for the disenfranchised.

The dems are wasting billions to kill the 2A

Why not open some farmers markets and health food stores with classes. Employ some people like me.

No. You're fucking afraid of me having a means of being able to defend myself while I work the street.

[feniin]

Rofl. The Right wing fear of Democrats killing 2A is hilarious.

[feniin]

Getting rid of them doesn't either. Why not take all that money and energy going towards politics and attacking weapons and put it towards liberty and health and education for the disenfranchised.

The dems are wasting billions to kill the 2A

Why not open some farmers markets and health food stores with classes. Employ some people like me.

No. You're fucking afraid of me having a means of being able to defend myself while I work the street.
Those things are out there, you just have to look for them. Jobs and education aren't going to just fall into your lap.

[Irulan]

Rofl. The Right wing fear of Democrats killing 2A is hilarious.

It's not going to happen but feel free to piss away money and potential voters on it. You're absolutely free to. I am done with my criticism of the issue.

[Irulan]

Those things are out there, you just have to look for them. Jobs and education aren't going to just fall into your lap.

Hey poor person with debt. Just pay the democrats 1 million in fees for the privilege of selling watermelons without going to jail.

To be fair the local Republicans also fucked us by putting an absurdly low cap on the free trade of groceries via the poor before the USDA gets on us. We are basically forced to live below the poverty line. And work for big megacorps. Unless we already have money and political ties.

Fuck it man. You clearly have time and money to play EQ and be ignorant.

I have shit to do so I am outa here.

[Wonkie]

No. You're fucking afraid of me having a means of being able to defend myself while I work the street.

WHAT!? :eek:

[feniin]

Hey poor person with debt. Just pay the democrats 1 million in fees for the privilege of selling watermelons without going to jail.

To be fair the local Republicans also fucked us by putting an absurdly low cap on the free trade of groceries via the poor before the USDA gets on us. We are basically forced to live below the poverty line. And work for big megacorps. Unless we already have money and political ties.

Fuck it man. You clearly have time and money to play EQ and be ignorant.

I have shit to do so I am outa here.
You do understand why there's food safety inspections and regulations as well as licensing to ensure people are vetted and can be held accountable (or their insurers), right? Do you want any rando off the street to be able to sell you untraceable, unaccountable food/drugs?

[Irulan]

WHAT!? :eek:

Ya well who wants to be a dead prostitute. Don't go near cars and shit where people can grab u. Take pictures. Let your john know your checking in and have their dox. Yadda yadda.

It's a dumb fucking life. Some of us suck at it.

[Irulan]

You do understand why there's food safety inspections and regulations as well as licensing to ensure people are vetted and can be held accountable (or their insurers), right? Do you want any rando off the street to be able to sell you untraceable, unaccountable food/drugs?

Yeah. Really we import fucking aggy from overseas in bulk and the majority doesn't get inspected or tested.

Yet I sell a home baked apple pie or sour dough roll and I am a hardend fucking criminal.

This is why we have #maga. Racism isn't the primary goal.

[Irulan]

Fuck I really have to go. Enjoy your dumb fucking Saturday being mad about guns.

[feniin]

Yeah. Really we import fucking aggy from overseas in bulk and the majority doesn't get inspected or tested.

Yet I sell a home baked apple pie or sour dough roll and I am a hardend fucking criminal.

This is why we have #maga. Racism isn't the primary goal.
Keep telling yourself that. :rolleyes:

[feniin]

Fuck I really have to go. Enjoy your dumb fucking Saturday being mad about guns.

Nah, just cooking lunch for me and my kid while we don't worry about gun violence and whatever cooked up racist ideology you believe to think you need to carry a weapon in 2019.

[misterbonkers]

You do understand why there's food safety inspections and regulations as well as licensing to ensure people are vetted and can be held accountable (or their insurers), right? Do you want any rando off the street to be able to sell you untraceable, unaccountable food/drugs?

depends on how hungry i am at a particular moment

[feniin]

depends on how hungry i am at a particular moment

Stray dog: meat animal.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/0IrAwTt.png

[misterbonkers]

Stray dog: meat animal.

mae has a point, that we criminalize genuine good faith, humane things. and that systems can be abused to otherwise discriminate or gatekeep those less well off from succeeding. if people weren't neurotic about shit like healthcare and being one critical failure away from being homeless and fucked by capitalism, we'd be able to take the risk of trying out a new entrepreneurial endeavor from a neighbor who's got talent at making imperial rice without worry about getting so sick we lose our job, and consequently, our livelihood.

also don't be stupid and just buy whatever from people you don't know/trust. i'm not saying that. be conscious, but be willing to take risks you can afford to take and understand the consequences of.

[Irulan]

mae has a point, that we criminalize genuine good faith, humane things. and that systems can be abused to otherwise discriminate or gatekeep those less well off from succeeding. if people weren't neurotic about shit like healthcare and being one critical failure away from being homeless and fucked by capitalism, we'd be able to take the risk of trying out a new entrepreneurial endeavor from a neighbor who's got talent at making imperial rice without worry about getting so sick we lose our job, and consequently, our livelihood.

also don't be stupid and just buy whatever from people you don't know/trust. i'm not saying that. be conscious, but be willing to take risks you can afford to take and understand the consequences of.

Thanks, off to pick up strong bread flower :)

[America]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWEEHOKcTnA

[Ahldagor]

Yawn. Glad I haven't missed much in a week or so. So who ate the biscuit last?

*edit*: lol, three days. Time's just squished together now.

[Caldwin]

"Students Target Professor for Criticizing College's Lack of Ideological Diversity":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFgSmvzTo3I

The left always talk about diversity, but only if you agree with them. :rolleyes:

[Caldwin]

"Forget Tucker Carlson: Look at Media Matters VP’s offensive blog posts":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls55CrLiVFI

More leftist attempts to silence those that disagree with them. Beside Tucker Carlson, they went after Roseanne Barr and Kevin Hart.

[Caldwin]

"NewZealandShooting - The Truth Behind MSM's Coverage":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Z55_eKmrI

This is someone's opinion, but I agree with most of it. Mainstream media are nothing more than shills for the globalists.

[misterbonkers]

not one day without this kinda bullshit

https://i.imgur.com/YOqjwk3.png

[Wonkie]

i agree, with this you tube video. i am the horror of my own waking nightmare.

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/b0zgQZB.jpg

[Caldwin]

"'The Global Warming War' by Walter Cunningham - Ninth International Conference on Climate Change":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16wrMkn2UHU

Questioning human-caused global warming. This is a lecture. So, if you don't like lectures, then don't watch it.

[Ahldagor]

https://i.imgur.com/b0zgQZB.jpg

Tremendous.

[Project1984]

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/your-r-kelly-jokes-and-memes-aint-funny-1833097307

Preach!

The right wingers weaponi,,ze memes. They did with their NZ attack and now they target an innocent man. Yall don't have any evidence

[JurisDictum]

Who knew fascist ideology might result in people killing minorities? I thought it was all just about family, community, and goofy frog memes.

[Project1984]

They need to start removing their leaders from YouTube and reddit. Enough is enough.

It's time to start seizing computer equipment or something

[DMN]

Who knew fascist ideology might result in people killing minorities? I thought it was all just about family, community, and goofy frog memes.

Good thing the libofascists are fucking useless cucks who couldn't shoot a gun to save their tofu eating asses.

[Project1984]

Good thing the libofascists are fucking useless cucks who couldn't shoot a gun to save their tofu eating asses.

There's that word! 'cucks'

So interesting, I've never met an altrighter before

You support the NZ killings, yes?

[misterbonkers]

0/10 try harder next time

[DMN]

There's that word! 'cucks'

So interesting, I've never met an altrighter before

You support the NZ killings, yes?

I support eunuchs stepping up to the plate.

[Project1984]

I support eunuchs stepping up to the plate.

Ah, so you're a fan of Fucker Carlson too?

Typical trumpster fire!

[Project1984]

Welcome to the new imperialism. White savior types donating to African funds. Africa doesn't need white people's help! Go do other white shit (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/24/africa-comic-relief)

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/wXOmK3n.jpg

[Project1984]

^ lol exactly

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/b0zgQZB.jpg

Tremendous.

She looks incredible for 70

I would vote for her. Takes incredible skills to be so gorgeous.

[Mota]

Getting rid of them doesn't either. Why not take all that money and energy going towards politics and attacking weapons and put it towards liberty and health and education for the disenfranchised.

The dems are wasting billions to kill the 2A

Why not open some farmers markets and health food stores with classes. Employ some people like me.

No. You're fucking afraid of me having a means of being able to defend myself while I work the street.

Whenever healthcare and education for the disenfranchised is up, Republicans shoot it down. So naturally dems figure if they can get rid of guns Republicans will stop shooting down good ideas.

[America]

really, really big brain

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Greatest President of all-time. GREATEST!

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Ugh, no.

FDR was the greatest president.

Trump is a chump

https://i.imgur.com/pTyTN54.gif

[feniin]

Ugh, no.

FDR was the greatest president.

Trump is a chump

You're trying too hard. :rolleyes:

[Caldwin]

Enough is enough. It's time to ban conservatives from social media. Our very lives depend on it (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/03/15/facebook-youtube-twitter-amplified-video-christchurch-mosque-shooting/?utm_term=.0627fd5a2f3c)

Why ban conservatives? I'm sick and tired of the far left trying to ban speech that they don't agree with. I'm sick of conservatives getting blamed every time there is a mass shooting. Most of these shooters have not been conservatives.

Yes, the shooter posted vile things. And, that should be banned. But, don't blame conservatives. This shooter had views that were more leftist than anything else...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGv1NZX0rc

I understand (but don't condone) the rants dino posted that got him banned. Day in and day out, the leftist lame stream media is constantly falsely accusing conservatives, and even libertarians, of hate speech (which is anything that goes against the leftist ideology), racism, sexism, homophobia or being just a bigot in general. Well, they aren't for the most part.

I'm just getting sick and tired of the leftists blaming the conservatives (or anyone that doesn't tow the leftist agenda) for the ills of the world. :mad:

[misterbonkers]

Why ban conservatives? I'm sick and tired of the far left trying to ban speech that they don't agree with. I'm sick of conservatives getting blamed every time there is a mass shooting. Most of these shooters have not been conservatives.

Yes, the shooter posted vile things. And, that should be banned. But, don't blame conservatives. This shooter had views that were more leftist than anything else...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGv1NZX0rc

I understand (but don't condone) the rants dino posted that got him banned. Day in and day out, the leftists lame stream media is constantly falsely accusing conservatives, and even libertarians, of hate speech (which is anything that goes against the leftist ideology), racism, sexism, homophobia or being just a bigot in general. Well, they aren't for the most part.

I'm just getting sick and tired of the leftists blaming the conservatives (or anyone that doesn't tow the leftist agenda) for the ills of the world. :mad:

fuck off nazi apologist

[Caldwin]

Ugh, no.

FDR was the greatest president.

Trump is a chump

No, Reagan was the greatest president, at least since Lincoln. FDR, prolonged the great depression by his meddling in the economy and his big government policies.

Trump may not be Reagan, but he's no chump. I'm no Trumpest, but Hillary would have been far worse.

[Caldwin]

fuck off nazi apologist

Oh, I forgot, Nazi is another thing the leftists call those who don't tow the leftist agenda.

By the way, you do know that Nazis were big government socialists, don't you? I'm far from being a socialist or for big government.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Why ban conservatives? I'm sick and tired of the far left trying to ban speech that they don't agree with. I'm sick of conservatives getting blamed every time there is a mass shooting. Most of these shooters have not been conservatives.

Yes, the shooter posted vile things. And, that should be banned. But, don't blame conservatives. This shooter had views that were more leftist than anything else...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGv1NZX0rc

I understand (but don't condone) the rants dino posted that got him banned. Day in and day out, the leftist lame stream media is constantly falsely accusing conservatives, and even libertarians, of hate speech (which is anything that goes against the leftist ideology), racism, sexism, homophobia or being just a bigot in general. Well, they aren't for the most part.

I'm just getting sick and tired of the leftists blaming the conservatives (or anyone that doesn't tow the leftist agenda) for the ills of the world. :mad:

These ANTIFA scum don't care bro.

[Wonkie]

we've got the fascists on the run, they'll be memeing about sephora soon :)

[feniin]

we've got the fascists on the run, they'll be memeing about sephora soon :)

They'll be lookin' for that mascara that's resistant to tears.

[Wonkie]

No, Reagan was the greatest president, at least since Lincoln. FDR, prolonged the great depression by his meddling in the economy and his big government policies.

Trump may not be Reagan, but he's no chump. I'm no Trumpest, but Hillary would have been far worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

[Irulan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
Lol




.....



Shits still the same dawg. Our elite have just outsourced the kidnapping erasure and human experimentation to other countries out of the reach of American journalists.




Hehehehe

[America]

They'll be lookin' for that mascara that's resistant to tears.

nah. im a cryer but current drug regime cures that ;)

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Watch this to see how stupid the left really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31fCVSFDFwA

[America]

thanks 4 blowing up my EARPHONES

tfw age of majority changes to 16 :D (more pretty girls)

is the empire fibrous enough to hold strong w/ pretty girls for a godhead?? maybe our vestals

[I Felt Nostalgic]

thanks 4 blowing up my EARPHONES

tfw age of majority changes to 16 :D (more pretty girls)

is the empire fibrous enough to hold strong w/ pretty girls for a godhead?? maybe our vestals

Sorry, I wasn't wearing headphones when I watched it.

[Caldwin]

Watch this to see how stupid the left really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31fCVSFDFwA

The Democrats are getting desperate. I agree with some of the comments on that youtube video page, like...

johnk6749:
"Dems are afraid they can't legitimately win an election, so they want the illegal alien vote and indoctrinated teenagers."

mic Williams:
"16yr olds not mature enough, that's a fact, plus they shouldn't drive a car till 18 yr old. What a bunch of scary ideas proposed here."

[I Felt Nostalgic]

The Democrats are getting desperate. I agree with some of the comments on that youtube video page, like...

johnk6749:
"Dems are afraid they can't legitimately win an election, so they want the illegal alien vote and indoctrinated teenagers."

mic Williams:
"16yr olds not mature enough, that's a fact, plus they shouldn't drive a car till 18 yr old. What a bunch of scary ideas proposed here."

Yeah, it is getting really scary in the USA right now. I feel like we are on the verge of civil war within the next 5 years if things continue on the current trajectory.

[Tethler]

Wow, you people actually click the youtube links posted here? Haha

[America]

Wow, you people actually click the youtube links posted here? Haha

VERY rarely. don't you come at me on that, nerd. i am conducting an analysis of this new poster's personality.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

VERY rarely. don't you come at me on that, nerd. i am conducting an analysis of this new poster's personality.

If you're talking about me, I am a Trump supporter, I support building a wall on the southern AND northern borders because fuck Canadians(JK) too, I support the 2nd amendment and am willing to die to protect it, I support free speech, and I also support capitalism.

I'm just an honest dude that loves his country and doesn't give a fuck about any other countries because we got enough of our own problems over here.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Sure thing, Antifa scum.

[Thorondor]

I aint no senator's son, suffice it to say. However, i do not intend to continue posting here, as i believe i've said all there is to say with the caveat that i was a little hasty to decry that we havent seen the last of fringe lunacism in todays environment of accelerationsim. The choice on whether you're going to assume the driver's seat in your own life, or cede the wheel to another is yours.

With that said, without relinquishing victimhood, i dont believe i wouldve passed through the proverbial keyhole when chance foisted me upon the foyer.

[Patriam1066]

Oh good Mario is back...

[I Felt Nostalgic]

I aint no senator's son, suffice it to say. However, i do not intend to continue posting here, as i believe i've said all there is to say with the caveat that i was a little hasty to decry that we havent seen the last of fringe lunacism in todays environment of accelerationsim. The choice on whether you're going to assume the driver's seat in your own life, or cede the wheel to another is yours.

With that said, without relinquishing victimhood, i dont believe i wouldve passed through the proverbial keyhole when chance foisted me upon the foyer.

You got any plat or a fungi tunic I can have?

[Mead]

I aint no senator's son, suffice it to say. However, i do not intend to continue posting here, as i believe i've said all there is to say with the caveat that i was a little hasty to decry that we havent seen the last of fringe lunacism in todays environment of accelerationsim. The choice on whether you're going to assume the driver's seat in your own life, or cede the wheel to another is yours.

With that said, without relinquishing victimhood, i dont believe i wouldve passed through the proverbial keyhole when chance foisted me upon the foyer.

The great thing about this place is there will always be some other unstable nerd ready to pickup where you left off

Thank you for your contributions tho. You kept the cycle going

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/J9seHId.png

[America]

^let us receive with joy the future we were promised

I aint no senator's son, suffice it to say. However, i do not intend to continue posting here, as i believe i've said all there is to say with the caveat that i was a little hasty to decry that we havent seen the last of fringe lunacism in todays environment of accelerationsim. The choice on whether you're going to assume the driver's seat in your own life, or cede the wheel to another is yours.

With that said, without relinquishing victimhood, i dont believe i wouldve passed through the proverbial keyhole when chance foisted me upon the foyer.

don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya

[Mota]

Oh, I forgot, Nazi is another thing the leftists call those who don't tow the leftist agenda.

By the way, you do know that Nazis were big government socialists, don't you? I'm far from being a socialist or for big government.


They call them Nazi's because of the rise of racism and nationalism in our country. Neither of which are a result of the size or type of government. Try again.

[rebeccablack]

With that said, without relinquishing victimhood, i dont believe i wouldve passed through the proverbial keyhole when chance foisted me upon the foyer.
thank u for leaving us with this absolutely batshit post. hope u find yourself in a place where your amoral lunacy is more appreciated.

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/J9seHId.png

I am not a violent person but we live in a violent world. Without the Isrralis fucking shit up we'd be overun by Islamic trannies.

I DGAF. The world sucks. They will live with this on their conciince. They're being trans is irrelevant.

Does the tweeter known even what pronouns to use? Wonder women is a sexist comparison.

It's not like all u ppl identify as Jesus.

[America]

I am not a violent person but we live in a violent world. Without the Isrralis fucking shit up we'd be overun by Islamic trannies.

I DGAF. The world sucks. They will live with this on their conciince. They're being trans is irrelevant.

Does the tweeter known even what pronouns to use? Wonder women is a sexist comparison.

It's not like all u ppl identify as Jesus.

my thots exactly

[Patriam1066]

Without the Israelis, Iran and turkey would be competing to subjugate the entire Middle East

It would be fine pussies. F-22s and nukes, just unclench and trust me

[Mead]

I am not a violent person but we live in a violent world. Without the Isrralis fucking shit up we'd be overun by Islamic trannies.

I DGAF. The world sucks. They will live with this on their conciince. They're being trans is irrelevant.

Does the tweeter known even what pronouns to use? Wonder women is a sexist comparison.

It's not like all u ppl identify as Jesus.

I come in the name of jesus by the power of the holy spirit (https://youtu.be/6_pV0H5ieiw?t=89)

[JurisDictum]

In the wild, Lion cubs learn to hunt by watching their mother hunt. Then they practice and play with each other. This gives them the chance to be successful adult lions themselves.

If instead the lioness spent all her time dating other lions, only coming back to drop off gazelle meat and insist the cubs didn't leave the cave -- until they were adults. The adult lions would probably not know what to do and starve. Or get killed getting into a fight for meat with other stronger lions.

[Cecily]

So you’re saying women are to blame for everything?

[America]

In the wild, Lion cubs learn to hunt by watching their mother hunt. Then they practice and play with each other. This gives them the chance to be successful adult lions themselves.

If instead the lioness spent all her time dating other lions, only coming back to drop off gazelle meat and insist the cubs didn't leave the cave -- until they were adults. The adult lions would probably not know what to do and starve. Or get killed getting into a fight for meat with other stronger lions.

thankgod I was raised by a male

https://i.imgur.com/7v7J7dg.png

[JurisDictum]

So you’re saying women are to blame for everything?

I'm just saying. In some cases (most of them), if certain women would keep their god damn legs shut until they have properly ensnared a decent guy, their kids wouldn't starve.

Selfish bitches.

So now we can't have this nice little libertarian government all you right wing red necks want. Because women fucked it up.

Seriously though its not just women. It's this self-affirming hedonism run amok. Someone gets a little money and power and thinks its up to them not to pay their dues and change the system to suit them, personally.

Leaders are supposed to look out for the entire tribe and not just their manor. Otherwise they aren't leaders at all. Just tyrants.

[Cecily]

Yeah, well. People, which includes women, are fallible. If no one fucked up and everyone just did their task in the most efficient way possible we would live in a utopian hell. I don’t think that’s an improvement over the current model.

[Irulan]

*puts gazelle meat loaf in oven *

[JurisDictum]

If no one fucked up and everyone just did their task in the most efficient way possible we would live in a utopian hell.

Maybe that is the problem. Those in charge are living in a utopian hell, so they spend their time making problems for the rest of us. Mostly through wealth/power addiction.

[Cecily]

I don’t think hedonism generally has a happy ending. Everything will crumble around us eventually and you should know things that’ll help in case of a worst case. I don’t think war, economic collapse, and/or catastrophic climate change is out of the question for any of us in our lifetimes.

[Wonkie]

maybe dont condemn an entire gender cuz one individual broke your heart

also stop reagan signalling it hurts my ears

[Irulan]

maybe dont condemn an entire gender cuz one individual broke your heart

also stop reagan signalling it hurts my ears

Hi. All genders are gay.

My heart is unbreakable.

Love,
Maerilith

[JurisDictum]

10731

Old memes.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

10731

Old memes.

I don't think you could post that on Twitter of Facebook without receiving a timeout. :D

[Patriam1066]

I'm just saying. In some cases (most of them), if certain women would keep their god damn legs shut until they have properly ensnared a decent guy, their kids wouldn't starve.

Selfish bitches.

So now we can't have this nice little libertarian government all you right wing red necks want. Because women fucked it up.

Seriously though its not just women. It's this self-affirming hedonism run amok. Someone gets a little money and power and thinks its up to them not to pay their dues and change the system to suit them, personally.

Leaders are supposed to look out for the entire tribe and not just their manor. Otherwise they aren't leaders at all. Just tyrants.

You sure know a lot about other people’s problems

How’s mom’s basement?

[JurisDictum]

You sure know a lot about other people’s problems

How’s mom’s basement?

You're actually very talented at kicking people when they're down. Ever consider continuing your career in law enforcement Patriam?

[Caldwin]

So now we can't have this nice little libertarian government all you right wing red necks want.

I don't know where you got the idea right wing and libertarian have anything to do with each other.

I'm libertarian, but certainly no red neck. I hate country music.

[JurisDictum]

I don't know where you got the idea right wing and libertarian have anything to do with each other.

I'm libertarian, but certainly no red neck. I hate country music.

Well, on the west coast we tend to associate rural "redneck" (a little less white trashy of a connotation here) types with Libertarianism. They don't like it when the gubberment tells them what to do with their land grumble grumble.

On the east coast I think there is more of that button down privileged little snob that is libertarian because they are afraid to admit they owe a lot to an accident of birth.

People are mostly heard minded cowards that go along with scapegoating whoever the easy target is. Their whole worldview is twisted to explain why they deserve their passive income -- and should get more of it. Whether that is welfare, military, or dividends.

Few care about what is actually fair or makes sense on a macro level. On actually trying to unleash the creative or productive potential in people. It's all about them.

[Cecily]

10731

Old memes.

I’m gonna have to stop calling things gay aren’t I? That sucks bc that meme is funny. I like the word as a lame synonym, but it’s also kinda part of that culture that made me wanna kill myself, so there’s that. I don’t want to help perpetuate it.

[misterbonkers]

really makes you think

https://i.imgur.com/D1IhU9o.png (https://twitter.com/notch/status/898097332692103168)

https://i.imgur.com/53RuaFG.png (https://twitter.com/notch/status/1108109738460405760)

[America]

I’m gonna have to stop calling things gay aren’t I? That sucks.

you can always call bonkers it

[Cecily]

you can always call bonkers it

I’m gonna leave this community one day — hopefully with no carry on baggage like catch phrases or in jokes that don’t exist elsewhere.

[misterbonkers]

I’m gonna leave this community one day — hopefully with no carry on baggage like catch phrases or in jokes that don’t exist elsewhere.

i hope that works out for you if you do. i've been thinking about it myself.

[America]

downersssssssss

[Wonkie]

I don't know where you got the idea right wing and libertarian have anything to do with each other.

I'm libertarian, but certainly no red neck. I hate country music.

the answer is fiscal policy

hope this helps

[JurisDictum]

I’m gonna leave this community one day — hopefully with no carry on baggage like catch phrases or in jokes that don’t exist elsewhere.

I honestly wish people weren't as sensitive now things aren't like they were in the 80s/ early 90s or before.

It was a bigger deal when there was a lot more people that honestly hated gays / thought they were lesser humans.

Trans slurs are different because they still get quite a bit of mainstream hate from what I can tell. I still see a lot of narratives about how trans is just some kind of liberal propaganda or something.

The trans suicide rate is still through the roof last I checked, so I can see why Twitter is being militant about misgendering -- for example.

But some gay guys need to get over themselves a bit IMO. If you're some well-off gay boy in the city -- you're not all that oppressed. Some southern baptist honestly hating you for being gay probably has a lot worse life than you do.

I wish my biggest problem was someone hated me because of who I am that way. Fuck em, who cares?

It's when a shitload of potential employers don't want to hire you that it's a problem...because we have decided something that arbitrary should control your life...what some random guy/girl that owns a company thinks of you on a personal level.

[America]

the gay mafia in cities is hilarious powerful. aint no oppression. then again trans girls fare even better there.

public school bullying sux tho i guess and it's not really escapable by the average kiddo

[Patriam1066]

I honestly wish people weren't as sensitive now things aren't like they were in the 80s/ early 90s or before.

It was a bigger deal when there was a lot more people that honestly hated gays / thought they were lesser humans.

Trans slurs are different because they still get quite a bit of mainstream hate from what I can tell. I still see a lot of narratives about how trans is just some kind of liberal propaganda or something.

The trans suicide rate is still through the roof last I checked, so I can see why Twitter is being militant about misgendering -- for example.

But some gay guys need to get over themselves a bit IMO. If you're some well-off gay boy in the city -- you're not all that oppressed. Some southern baptist honestly hating you for being gay probably has a lot worse life than you do.

I wish my biggest problem was someone hated me because of who I am that way. Fuck em, who cares?

It's when a shitload of potential employers don't want to hire you that it's a problem...because we have decided something that arbitrary should control your life...what some random guy/girl that owns a company thinks of you on a personal level.

Life isn’t about how privileged or oppressed you are

Your posts make me sad dude. You really needed a dad

[JurisDictum]

The freshly minted company unveiled its board members, including former House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.). Ryan, whose two decades in Congress ended in January, forged a working relationship with President Trump to advance a conservative agenda, including tax cuts.

Sweet Jesus I hate that guy.

[JurisDictum]

Murdoch family launches a new Fox, and former House Speaker Paul Ryan joins its board (https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-fox-spinoff-20190319-story.html)

Should have linked that with my last post.

[JurisDictum]

The world's happiest countries REVEALED: Finland comes top while South Sudan is the bleakest as the UK climbs the table and the US falls to its lowest ranking EVER (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6826655/The-worlds-happiest-countries-REVEALED-Finland-comes-South-Sudan-bleakest.html)

Finland has been crowned the happiest country in the world for the second year in a row, leading a top ten that is made up of five Nordic nations.

The World Happiness Report, released today, ranked 156 countries by happiness levels, based on factors such as life expectancy, social support and corruption.

But while the Nordic nations of Finland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Iceland topped the table, there was no sign of Britain in the top ten.

The UK placed 15th, up from 19th last year, one above Ireland and four above the US - which came in at its lowest ranking ever at 19th.

And we combine that with People want higher taxes on rich, better welfare - 21-country OECD survey (http://news.trust.org/item/20190319112743-3136f)

In light of the high level of discontent, a majority of people wanted their government to do more in all countries except France and Denmark, whose welfare systems are among the most generous in the world.

...

Not only did people say they were not getting their fair share given what they paid into the system, people in all countries except Canada, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands did not think that their governments were heeding their views.

"These feelings spread across most social groups, and are not limited just to those deemed 'left behind'," the OECD said in an analysis of the survey's results.

The feeling of injustice was even higher among the highly educated and high-income households, it added

We are not lead by our best. We lead by rapists, murders, thieves, and some -- I assume -- are good people.

[Irulan]

https://www.bnd.com/latest-news/article207496274.html

Chivalry is so ded in this day and age...

[America]

didnt read. answer is women walks on the inside of the street (right side if you are going with USA traffic. away from danger, duh); parties exit buildings in order of status segregated by women first (order isn't terribly strict here but you be wary in the case of rivalries, and let powerful matriarchs exit behind you if you have manners); highest-status male last. Women always "face the room" in restaurant seating. Live by it or be detected as a peasant retard.

[Mead]

soy boy beta males are plentiful these days

good for us alphas tho

who wants piggy-back ride?

[Irulan]

didnt read. answer is women walks on the inside of the street (right side if you are going with USA traffic. away from danger, duh); parties exit buildings in order of status segregated by women first (order isn't terribly strict here but you be wary in the case of rivalries, and let powerful matriarchs exit behind you if you have manners); highest-status male last. Women always "face the room" in restaurant seating. Live by it or be detected as a peasant retard.

Good rundown:caveat protect your woman, so if there are dark and dangerous alleys in the right, she should be on the left in that case.

Also offers your arms so we can please hold them gently at the elbow.

The article is good, albeit, I am sure triggering for some. It offers a comprehensive view of common dangers from our past. Be greatful you live in the modern era.

[Irulan]

soy boy beta males are plentiful these days

good for us alphas tho

who wants piggy-back ride?

*gently grasps above elbow*

[Wonkie]

androgen is so passe

[Irulan]

androgen is so passe

Hi. All genders are gay.

My heart is unbreakable.

Love,
Maerilith

[America]

androgen is so passe

guess im olefashioned. love it

[Wonkie]

guess im olefashioned. love it

fashion indeed :o

shipping heroin chic x androgen chico tho :)

[America]

This young whale died with 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines/)

*doesnt get paranoid*

[JurisDictum]

Too bad Republicans // Freedumb-types freak out every time we try to do something about plastic bags.

[Irulan]

This young whale died with 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines/)

*doesnt get paranoid*

Enact the final solution now. Most of the human population deserves this fate. Sparing them decades of horrific suffering is the most merciful godly action.

[America]

decades of horrific suffering

but it feels so good to get a nut doe

[America]

note that whale news came on the last post of page 87

[Irulan]

but it feels so good to get a nut doe

I don't care about the whales, the people, or the nutting. I just don't care at all anymore. If I could disapate my neural network and dispose of it. Limiting the entropy to the immediate decay of my bodies molecular structures. I would.

Ironically enough. My death would just fuel some fungus growth and free up some economic resources that would fuel some fat asses government subsidized cheese puff and pornhub addiction for a decade.

[Irulan]

note that whale news came on the last post of page 87

I am stupid and don't really understand numerology.

[America]

My death would just fuel some fungus growth and free up some economic resources that would fuel some fat asses government subsidized cheese puff and pornhub addiction for a decade.

that's why you take the benefits, dummy

we are investing in you. because you're a shining star (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjO5sXik5HhAhUUsZ4KHViID1kQyCkwAHoECAwQB Q&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmY nenIWZjwE&usg=AOvVaw3-Hv6wjSQA_BtugjFY3CyC)

(you really are)

[Irulan]

that's why you take the benefits, dummy

we are investing in you. because you're a shining star (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjO5sXik5HhAhUUsZ4KHViID1kQyCkwAHoECAwQB Q&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmY nenIWZjwE&usg=AOvVaw3-Hv6wjSQA_BtugjFY3CyC)

(you really are)

https://i.imgur.com/6HMIcJO.jpg

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/rdBhjuV.jpg

facebook owned me :(

[Irulan]

I think its time you sought some professional help

I have been getting professional help and still am. You are sad. Literally.

And I am sorry for that. You'd feel better if you were happy but you spend your time following me around on a dead video game forum. Being mad about what I do and how. You deserve way better friends.

[America]

he is sad. that's why i engage with his meanness. kinda like a teen bully who stays at a respectful distance if you joust him. i show him my love even tho he's a sweatlord ^^

[JurisDictum]

https://i.imgur.com/rdBhjuV.jpg

facebook owned me :(

Zuckerburned!

[Ahldagor]

So what got SC/Dino banned?

[America]

calls for civil war in the wake of NZ. "yikes stuff"

[America]

my vape died already wonkie 😂🔫
also GET

[Patriam1066]

Too bad Republicans // Freedumb-types freak out every time we try to do something about plastic bags.

I’m with you on banning / taxing sugar and plastic pimpin

Amen amen

[Wonkie]

my vape died already wonkie 😂🔫
also GET

what do you mean died? if it tastes bad you just burnt the coil dum dum get a new one

[America]

what do you mean died? if it tastes bad you just burnt the coil dum dum get a new one

nah like it just blinks when i press le button. why would u think that im a dum dum when i'm obviously very smart and goodlooking.

[Wonkie]

nah like it just blinks when i press le button. why would u think that im a dum dum when i'm obviously very smart and goodlooking.

what's the model? i kinda think you bought a vape pen (n00b)

[America]

what's the model? i kinda think you bought a vape pen (n00b)

its a orion Q. well i'll just quit nicotine right here. so who's the noob now.

[JurisDictum]

its a orion Q. well i'll just quit nicotine right here. so who's the noob now.

lol..."just quit nicotine"

[Wonkie]

its a orion Q. well i'll just quit nicotine right here. so who's the noob now.

still you, little miss internal battery haver (https://westcoastvapesupply.com/blogs/updates/the-complete-guide-to-the-lost-vape-orion-mod)

[America]

lol..."just quit nicotine"

ive conquered much bigger than a 3month nic habit

i was using 50mg juice tho :o

[Patriam1066]

Happy Nowruz everyone

[Wonkie]

Happy Nowruz everyone

https://i.imgur.com/KGRTsl5.jpg

what is??

[d3r14k]

I'm sure that food tastes great. But visually, it's off putting for some reason.

[Ahldagor]

calls for civil war in the wake of NZ. "yikes stuff"

Lol, typical. My hypothesis was correct, but it couldn't be stated for accuracy.

[Wonkie]

Yang gang (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFXbEM8y78)

[America]

"Found this in the comments of the code that gets the donor count: What's up internet. We know you're all over this. Here's how it works. We have to pull this data from a 3rd party provider, ActBlue. It's slow. So we do it manually. Thus we take our current growth rate and run at that rate every day. It's been about 1 new person per minute. We then reset manually every 24 hours. It's a little behind the real number but as accurate as we can get. We'll report the most hyper accurate number every quarter to the FEC. Thanks for always keeping us honest. #yanggang #SecureTheBag"

[Wonkie]

"Found this in the comments of the code that gets the donor count: What's up internet. We know you're all over this. Here's how it works. We have to pull this data from a 3rd party provider, ActBlue. It's slow. So we do it manually. Thus we take our current growth rate and run at that rate every day. It's been about 1 new person per minute. We then reset manually every 24 hours. It's a little behind the real number but as accurate as we can get. We'll report the most hyper accurate number every quarter to the FEC. Thanks for always keeping us honest. #yanggang #SecureTheBag"

fake news

[Irulan]

Over 50s singles and young coders is my two options for meetup groups in my area. :(

[Wonkie]

“I’m highly aligned with the intactivists,” Yang said. “History will prove them even more correct.”

[America]

“I’m highly aligned with the intactivists,” Yang said. “History will prove them even more correct.”

https://youtu.be/zUXow3d3-b0?t=43

[Ahldagor]

Why's our President bullying a dead man?

[DMN]

Why's our President bullying a dead man?

Because he was a scumbag who tried overthrow a duly elected president

[capco]

First off, I kind of have a feeling this post is going to get a lot of hype, seeming a lot of people in this community come from a place where the dislike of Americans is pretty high.

I just have a question.

Why?

In 1775 we declared war on the British Empire, in the year 1783 we won the war and became our own free country, we were a Democratic Republic. I see a lot of people claiming that the USA is an Empire. We are of no such thing. We are still a Democratic Republic, not a monarchy or an oligarchy.

In the following years we had a Civil War, the Union was victorious, setting all the black slaves free, but our racism and "Jim Crow" laws didnt end untill the 80's or 90's. We got over that problem, up to that point, we are still a Democratic Republic.

On the date 12,7,41 we where obliterated at Pearl Harbor, our Pacific fleet destroyed, open for attack. The next day, war was declared between the USA and the Axis powers, the US once again in another World War to help out their Allies.

But before the second world war, there was a first. And if an event never happened, we would never have joined the Allies. In the teens we were more likely to enter on the axis side. This all changed when The sinking of the Lusitania cruise ship by a German submarine and the Zimmermann note. The Lusitania was a passenger ship that a German torpedo hit and sunk, killing about 100 US passengers. This ignited the US to join the allies.

Imagine the US joining the Axis, and then again in WWII. If you look at it, there would be no France, there would be no UK, there would be no Russia, hell, even the US wouldn't exist. But we helped the right people, and we won.

Let's not forget the D-Day landings and paradroppings behind enemy lines the night before. Without the Ameicans the landings would have been a terrible slaughter for the Allies.

In the 60's we went to Vietnam to help out the French and the South Vietnamese, we were abandoned and sent to fight a force that memorized the land like we memorize our rooms. The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, we just lost the war with our week politics, just like always.

The United States is a very important contributor to medicine aswell.

Without us, you would still be searching for a cure for Small Pox. We have made HUGE advancements in medical science and Military technology. And without us, there would be a Soviet flag on the moon, and the Soviets would still be in the Middle east, and they would have a huge hand in everything. There would still be a communist Soviet Union.

Now please, i'm not looking for a flame war, i just want a simple explanation, i have nothing against anyone of another country. If you have anything to say just comment back.

Lastly, today, from all the bs we recive from ourselves and others. We are STILL a Democratic republic, we STILL have loyal citizens, we STILL have an amazing Armed Force, and we are STILL on this planet. That is all i have to say.

[Wonkie]

First off, I kind of have a feeling this post is going to get a lot of hype, seeming a lot of people in this community come from a place where the dislike of Americans is pretty high.

I just have a question.

Why?

In 1775 we declared war on the British Empire, in the year 1783 we won the war and became our own free country, we were a Democratic Republic. I see a lot of people claiming that the USA is an Empire. We are of no such thing. We are still a Democratic Republic, not a monarchy or an oligarchy.

In the following years we had a Civil War, the Union was victorious, setting all the black slaves free, but our racism and "Jim Crow" laws didnt end untill the 80's or 90's. We got over that problem, up to that point, we are still a Democratic Republic.

On the date 12,7,41 we where obliterated at Pearl Harbor, our Pacific fleet destroyed, open for attack. The next day, war was declared between the USA and the Axis powers, the US once again in another World War to help out their Allies.

But before the second world war, there was a first. And if an event never happened, we would never have joined the Allies. In the teens we were more likely to enter on the axis side. This all changed when The sinking of the Lusitania cruise ship by a German submarine and the Zimmermann note. The Lusitania was a passenger ship that a German torpedo hit and sunk, killing about 100 US passengers. This ignited the US to join the allies.

Imagine the US joining the Axis, and then again in WWII. If you look at it, there would be no France, there would be no UK, there would be no Russia, hell, even the US wouldn't exist. But we helped the right people, and we won.

Let's not forget the D-Day landings and paradroppings behind enemy lines the night before. Without the Ameicans the landings would have been a terrible slaughter for the Allies.

In the 60's we went to Vietnam to help out the French and the South Vietnamese, we were abandoned and sent to fight a force that memorized the land like we memorize our rooms. The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, we just lost the war with our week politics, just like always.

The United States is a very important contributor to medicine aswell.

Without us, you would still be searching for a cure for Small Pox. We have made HUGE advancements in medical science and Military technology. And without us, there would be a Soviet flag on the moon, and the Soviets would still be in the Middle east, and they would have a huge hand in everything. There would still be a communist Soviet Union.

Now please, i'm not looking for a flame war, i just want a simple explanation, i have nothing against anyone of another country. If you have anything to say just comment back.

Lastly, today, from all the bs we recive from ourselves and others. We are STILL a Democratic republic, we STILL have loyal citizens, we STILL have an amazing Armed Force, and we are STILL on this planet. That is all i have to say.

the only unAmerican folks around these parts are mick and dino. everyone else is from Glorious Cascadia, texas, or florida.

[Lune]

First off, I kind of have a feeling this post is going to get a lot of hype, seeming a lot of people in this community come from a place where the dislike of Americans is pretty high.

I just have a question.

Why?

In 1775 we declared war on the British Empire, in the year 1783 we won the war and became our own free country, we were a Democratic Republic. I see a lot of people claiming that the USA is an Empire. We are of no such thing. We are still a Democratic Republic, not a monarchy or an oligarchy.

In the following years we had a Civil War, the Union was victorious, setting all the black slaves free, but our racism and "Jim Crow" laws didnt end untill the 80's or 90's. We got over that problem, up to that point, we are still a Democratic Republic.

On the date 12,7,41 we where obliterated at Pearl Harbor, our Pacific fleet destroyed, open for attack. The next day, war was declared between the USA and the Axis powers, the US once again in another World War to help out their Allies.

But before the second world war, there was a first. And if an event never happened, we would never have joined the Allies. In the teens we were more likely to enter on the axis side. This all changed when The sinking of the Lusitania cruise ship by a German submarine and the Zimmermann note. The Lusitania was a passenger ship that a German torpedo hit and sunk, killing about 100 US passengers. This ignited the US to join the allies.

Imagine the US joining the Axis, and then again in WWII. If you look at it, there would be no France, there would be no UK, there would be no Russia, hell, even the US wouldn't exist. But we helped the right people, and we won.

Let's not forget the D-Day landings and paradroppings behind enemy lines the night before. Without the Ameicans the landings would have been a terrible slaughter for the Allies.

In the 60's we went to Vietnam to help out the French and the South Vietnamese, we were abandoned and sent to fight a force that memorized the land like we memorize our rooms. The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, we just lost the war with our week politics, just like always.

The United States is a very important contributor to medicine aswell.

Without us, you would still be searching for a cure for Small Pox. We have made HUGE advancements in medical science and Military technology. And without us, there would be a Soviet flag on the moon, and the Soviets would still be in the Middle east, and they would have a huge hand in everything. There would still be a communist Soviet Union.

Now please, i'm not looking for a flame war, i just want a simple explanation, i have nothing against anyone of another country. If you have anything to say just comment back.

Lastly, today, from all the bs we recive from ourselves and others. We are STILL a Democratic republic, we STILL have loyal citizens, we STILL have an amazing Armed Force, and we are STILL on this planet. That is all i have to say.

Yes I believe the United States has generally been a force of progress and good for humanity. Have we done some horrible shit? Yea. But it pales in comparison to the horrible shit done by any other body that has had the power we do.

Only nitpick is that we are indeed an oligarchy and we are in a new gilded age. Our economy and government are intertwined and rigged to suit the interests of a select few people, and we are being exploited like serfs and peasants to line the pockets of Haggle Barons. Also the smallpox vaccine was developed by Edward Jenner, a European, and ultimately cured by an international (Europe/North America) effort.

[Gravydoo II]

Because he was a scumbag who tried overthrow a duly elected president

Care to elaborate?? What does "tried to overthrow" mean?? So john mccain assaulted the white house with guns, but was stopped at the gate?? What does that mean?? He "tried to overthrow" trump?? Tell us what that means. Describe the actions he took which constitute "tried to overthrow" a president. Sounds like someone has been listening to a little too much AM radio..

[Patriam1066]

We’re an empire. That doesn’t mean we’re bad at all. You would’ve been blessed to live in Rome as opposed to shitholeIstan, just as you’re blessed to live in America instead of Mexico or some other shit hole country. That doesn’t mean we don’t have 12 aircraft carriers enforcing trade in the US dollar and that we didn’t get here through Manifest Destiny (ethnic cleansing and conquest) and cultural hegemony. The issue is that today, being right is considered wrong if it offends someone’s sensibilities. Progress must destroy those standing in its way. That’s how dad did it. That’s how America does it

[Patriam1066]

Yes I believe the United States has generally been a force of progress and good for humanity. Have we done some horrible shit? Yea. But it pales in comparison to the horrible shit done by any other body that has had the power we do.

Only nitpick is that we are indeed an oligarchy and we are in a new gilded age. Our economy and government are intertwined and rigged to suit the interests of a select few people, and we are being exploited like serfs and peasants to line the pockets of Haggle Barons. Also the smallpox vaccine was developed by Edward Jenner, a European, and ultimately cured by an international (Europe/North America) effort.

Become a robber baron and change it then dude

Jeff bezos was selling books in his garage at 35. Now because he had a good idea he’s an evil robber baron. We need to bring bakc serfdom. Some people clearly think of themselves as powerless and we should make the delusion reality

[Patriam1066]

the only unAmerican folks around these parts are mick and dino. everyone else is from Glorious Cascadia, texas, or florida.

God bless this post. And god bless Texas

[America]

We’re an empire. That doesn’t mean we’re bad at all. You would’ve been blessed to live in Rome as opposed to shitholeIstan, just as you’re blessed to live in America instead of Mexico or some other shit hole country. That doesn’t mean we don’t have 12 aircraft carriers enforcing trade in the US dollar and that we didn’t get here through Manifest Destiny (ethnic cleansing and conquest) and cultural hegemony. The issue is that today, being right is considered wrong if it offends someone’s sensibilities. Progress must destroy those standing in its way. That’s how dad did it. That’s how America does it

Become a robber baron and change it then dude

Jeff bezos was selling books in his garage at 35. Now because he had a good idea he’s an evil robber baron. We need to bring bakc serfdom. Some people clearly think of themselves as powerless and we should make the delusion reality

God bless this post. And god bless Texas

[JurisDictum]

Become a robber baron and change it then dude

Jeff bezos was selling books in his garage at 35. Now because he had a good idea he’s an evil robber baron. We need to bring bakc serfdom. Some people clearly think of themselves as powerless and we should make the delusion reality


Bezo's isn't evil but his company is paying zero fucking taxes. His entire business model is exploiting loopholes in the way our government works so money can be transferred out of brick in mortar stores and better paying jobs and into his bank account. Smart guy, but it no way to run a country.

No one is a bigger welfare queen than the Amazon Corp., except maybe other top companies like Walmart and AT&T etc..If you get paid $14 an hour, your paying for toward these assholes.

Bullshit military operations that benefit a handful of companies, subsides for the rich, excessive retirement plans for the well off, and yes, maybe $180 to a homeless person for food...but Trump is working on ending that part.

Not the rest though. Most the rest he is good with. Because he's a billionaire trust funder who is relatively an idiot for his class. You guys just probably want to get a beer with him. God damnit.

"WoW Masta, this is sure a nice house we have here." It make me sick. And no matter how much you point out the facts of the matter you guys have some way to twist it so Trump or McCain or some other rightwing asshole is the good guy.

[JurisDictum]

Yes I believe the United States has generally been a force of progress and good for humanity.

Why? Because we developed and invented some technology, created capital? Couldn't any asshole country have done the same?

200 years from now (in Chinese)

"I believe China has been a force for good, even though we some big problems."

[America]

Why? Because we developed and invented some technology, created capital? Couldn't any asshole country have done the same?

200 years from now (in Chinese)

"I believe China has been a force for good, even though we some big problems."

the fact of the world hegemon currently not being Chinese is a pretty great legacy in itself.

the massive explosion of capital & resource exploitation that the US represents catapulted us through the 19th-20th centuries in terms of technology. the cleveland orchestra is on par with Berlin Phil. that's how important American industry was. that's how big its biceps were. fucking Cleveland, dude.

and blew up the world economy under a very favorable social organization and culture. you owe it 20 years of life expectancy. and you owe it for developing the medicine & social setting to turn me pretty. salute the flag when you kiss me dear. That "other asshole country" who blew up the 20th century could have been Imperial Japan, Germany, or China -- all powers who rejected cultural inheritance from the Greeks. Insect cultures. Homophobes! No; the US is wonderful. and the scary thing is that it is, actually, worth some number of lives and some amount of warfare to maintain its position.

If a hegemon is inevitable it must inherit culturally from good. Not from mfkn confucius or tao te chong. "get fat and kill people if the wind blows you that way, feeling no feelings". wow great philosophy.

[Irulan]

I'd be ok with a republican president but this white trash needs to get dunked on hard.

Nothing personal m8s.

[JurisDictum]

Fine, China is more evil. My point wasn't that China was good per se. But that we have this strange tendency to associate power with what is "good."

That's the whole damn point of the Republic. Justice is not the will of the stronger. Justice is a just society. We used to pretend/think the elite were on some level, trying to seek out a just society. We know better now, now we just talk about power in political theory.

But a more just society is the only legitimate political goal there really is. We are only better then China insomuch as we are more just. That goals are more noble.

I guess I'm elitist in the sense that I think there is a natural order. Where the more capable lead and look out for the less capable. But the natural order is currently perverted by an artificial one of inherited wealth and privilege.

Those that rose with the boomer generation know its true. Most the time, they know their kids aren't as good as them (generalization, always generalizations). But they resist allowing their mediocre kids to backslide in social position...where they would probably be more comfortable if it was allowed.

You probably all seen these well-off pampered kids with pedigree in way over their head. Not a pretty sight. Its destructive them and the rest of us.

[JurisDictum]

What the hell are we trying to accomplish in the world exactly ATM? Can anyone answer this?

It seems to me that despite any high minded ideals we come up with. We mostly serve to funnel the earth's resources (including human creative and productive power) into a handful of well-connected corporate owners and their families.

It only makes sense in a context of eventually redistributing these vast pools. Assuming they don't waste it on bullshit rushed space projects and dumb island building projects.

"We have to spend money to party like this, because otherwise, the government will take it all" -- the son of some rich Jew I know indirectly. He has like 5 Ferraris, doesn't work, and bitches about taxes.

[America]

We know better now, now we just talk about power in political theory.

"Political theory" is ideology, not hard science. Power relationships are a systematic component of politics but there are, actually, culture and individual character playing their roles in things -- among other forces. If you are just talking about power you are being an ideologue. Black and white thinking.

As for what we're trying to accomplish: we are clinging to power while we devise an information-control matrix that can bend every culture into the world order which has us at its head. It may well work and be something of a political singularity; the top of the info matrix could be a permanent crown on the permanent head of human civilization. The next 30 years will be very important.

[rebeccablack]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

[Wonkie]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

deficit hawks are pretty quiet under Trump. shame about that tax cut kneecapping revenue, guess we gotta cut the budget sorry not sorry

[JurisDictum]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

We been in the culture war since Nixon (kicked into high gear under Reagan). We can't get out of it because we keep bringing in immigrants + fanning the flames of ethnic/cultural resentment as replacement for policy that will improve most people's lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZ-CpINiqg

Trump is just the newest turn.

[JurisDictum]

"Political theory" is ideology, not hard science. Power relationships are a systematic component of politics but there are, actually, culture and individual character playing their roles in things -- among other forces. If you are just talking about power you are being an ideologue. Black and white thinking.

As for what we're trying to accomplish: we are clinging to power while we devise an information-control matrix that can bend every culture into the world order which has us at its head. It may well work and be something of a political singularity; the top of the info matrix could be a permanent crown on the permanent head of human civilization. The next 30 years will be very important.

Political theory is attempt to organize and make sense people's muddle-assed thinking about ideology. It is not an ideology in and of itself. As far as the academic subject of Political Theory goes (which mostly got started in its modern form under Niccolò Machiavelli).

Plato did have an ideology, one of Meritocracy. It's one of the foundational ideas of Western ideology. In that sense maybe it is black and white. Meritocracy is an ideology that philosopher kings would do the best on top, then lower down rungs everyone has their place. Including slaves at the bottom who are better governed by other rather than themselves.

IDK where the grey is though. You either believe society should be organized according to merit or not.

The biggest threat to US hegemony is itself. It's co-option by corporations and its subservience to undisciplined private interest with no vision beyond enriching themselves. Oligarchy in short (which Aristotle identified as an unstable system).

It creates unprofitable military adventurism, predatory capitalism, kleptocracy, and undermines popular support for our country and global support for its position as a leader.

Google is giving away the mechanisms you are talking to China ATM...why? Because the US Government serves Google more than Google serves the US Government. And that is a problem.

Trump talks a good game on some of this "America First" rhetoric. But he has more or less kept the status quo from what I can tell -- accelerating subservience to limited private interest that have no actual loyalty to this country, its ideals, or anything except "GIVE ME MORE."

Bernie might at least help more people reach more of their potential and actually start contributing to the country. But he might just as much hobble things dated ideas and programs. We'll have to see.

I'm not a huge fan socialism becoming the party of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism shouldn't be a party. I think its a failure as far as policy goes, other might disagree -- that's fine, just not along high stakes winner take all party lines.

The multicultural vote needs to be split, were as the economic populist and nationalist vote needs to be concentrated in one party so it can take over for at least awhile. We have the opposite right now and its not good.

[Wonkie]

interesting post structure. did you mean to open with "muddle ass ideology" and close with a toothless critique of "multiculturalism"?

[JurisDictum]

interesting post structure. did you mean to open with "muddle ass ideology" and close with a toothless critique of "multiculturalism"?

We should import people from all over the world here, allow them to set up culturally isolated communities. The host culture however, is expected to be understanding and sensitive, even as they live in relative poverty.

Yea that's a dumb policy, and is a complete failure. It creates instability and adds little to the host country compared to a melted pot ideology. At least from what I can tell.

That doesn't mean we should all become white nationalists and round up the coloreds and Jews though.

[Wonkie]

We should import people from all over the world here, allow them to set up culturally isolated communities. The host culture however, is expected to be understanding and sensitive, even as they live in relative poverty.

the first amendment guarantees freedom of association.

[America]

yet it doesn't guarantee my lips freedom to associate with a marijuana doobie. western morality yall.

[Irulan]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

Get Google chick fa lay and big money and lgbtwtfchristianbbq bigpharna lobbies out and yes.

Not going to happen tho.

On the up and up bigmac will be federally recognized as a national treasure

[Wonkie]

Get Google chick fa lay and big money and lgbtwtfchristianbbq bigpharna lobbies out and yes.

Not going to happen tho.

I've never interacted with the Chick fil a brand. i am the holiest consumer.

[America]

I've never interacted with the Chick fil a brand. i am the holiest consumer.

ive never interfaced with chick fil a OR taco bell

[Wonkie]

ive never interfaced with chick fil a OR taco bell

the competition is heating up! who can top this?

[Irulan]

I am cool with chikfala and their bigotry is totally fine. I would eat there if I was post srs.

What sux is that *all* of these corporations hold tremendous amounts of power over my political choices and government regulations and laws.

And the American supply chain and economy.

[Irulan]

the competition is heating up! who can top this?

Pollo tropical isn't any where near as good and probably full of its own catholic jewry anyway.

[Patriam1066]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

Protestant culture produced pragmatism. The culture war must be won before phase II begins

[Daloon]

womp womp

[Patriam1066]

What the hell are we trying to accomplish in the world exactly ATM? Can anyone answer this?

It seems to me that despite any high minded ideals we come up with. We mostly serve to funnel the earth's resources (including human creative and productive power) into a handful of well-connected corporate owners and their families.

It only makes sense in a context of eventually redistributing these vast pools. Assuming they don't waste it on bullshit rushed space projects and dumb island building projects.

"We have to spend money to party like this, because otherwise, the government will take it all" -- the son of some rich Jew I know indirectly. He has like 5 Ferraris, doesn't work, and bitches about taxes.

We’re fighting HIV in Africa. That’s pretty moral I think

(China isn’t. The Muslims aren’t. No melanin participating in the noble endeavor)

Also, you’re able to share your political opinions from mom’s basement. Alternatively, had you been born in China, you’d be chained to your work station assembling my iPhone for your insolence. I think you’d agree there’s some virtue to that?

It’s perspective man. You went from being obese to being somewhat healthy. In one aspect of your life, you removed your head from your ass and learned the correct way to think and act. Now it’s time to completely get your head out of there and ascend

[Thorondor]

We’re fighting HIV in Africa. That’s pretty moral I think

(China isn’t. The Muslims aren’t. No melanin participating in the noble endeavor)

Also, you’re able to share your political opinions from mom’s basement. Alternatively, had you been born in China, you’d be chained to your work station assembling my iPhone for your insolence. I think you’d agree there’s some virtue to that?

It’s perspective man. You went from being obese to being somewhat healthy. In one aspect of your life, you removed your head from your ass and learned the correct way to think and act. Now it’s time to completely get your head out of there and ascend


Hes not ready to stop digging around in his feces, complaining that it isnt made out of gold yet. He'll figure it out eventually...hopefully. Throndor hasnt given up on this one yet.

[Thorondor]

On a positive note. We hit an inverted yield curve on long term treasury bonds today, so we're looking at a recession very soon here.

This is his generations chance to build equity in the aftermath of the market bubble popping.

Stay liquid...it looks like its going to be a 50 to 60% downturn if you assume that market growth SHOULD have followed true economic growth since 09. This is where millionaires made kids. Dont waste the opportunity while deluding yourself into believing you "never had a chance".

Thats what losers who never tried tell themselves.

[Tethler]

Ew, Throbmore is back. Hope every is ready for some more word-vomit.

[JurisDictum]

Ew, Throbmore is back. Hope every is ready for some more word-vomit.

It's hard to stay away forever -- this is the best site on the internet.

[password]

We're at a crossroads, where having a complete criminal is fine. It might not be fine. But we owned the frogloks so it's justified. peees

[Caldwin]

Bezo's isn't evil but his company is paying zero fucking taxes. His entire business model is exploiting loopholes in the way our government works so money can be transferred out of brick in mortar stores and better paying jobs and into his bank account. Smart guy, but it no way to run a country.

No one is a bigger welfare queen than the Amazon Corp., except maybe other top companies like Walmart and AT&T etc..If you get paid $14 an hour, your paying for toward these assholes.

That's what happens when you have big government in bed with big monopolistic corporations. They have the lobbyists that push loopholes in the tax code and for regulations and fees they can absorb (or are exempt from) that their competition (especially newbies) have difficulty with.

The loopholes, subsidies and bailouts have got to go. Let businesses and corporations succeed or fail on their merits (or lack thereof). The banks should never have been bailed out in 2008.

Bullshit military operations that benefit a handful of companies, subsides for the rich, excessive retirement plans for the well off, and yes, maybe $180 to a homeless person for food...but Trump is working on ending that part.

Didn't Eisenhower warn us of the industrial military complex?

[Caldwin]

What the hell are we trying to accomplish in the world exactly ATM? Can anyone answer this?

It seems to me that despite any high minded ideals we come up with. We mostly serve to funnel the earth's resources (including human creative and productive power) into a handful of well-connected corporate owners and their families.

It only makes sense in a context of eventually redistributing these vast pools. Assuming they don't waste it on bullshit rushed space projects and dumb island building projects.

"We have to spend money to party like this, because otherwise, the government will take it all" -- the son of some rich Jew I know indirectly. He has like 5 Ferraris, doesn't work, and bitches about taxes.

While I don't like big monopolistic corporations, I also don't like redistribution of wealth. All that does is make everyone equally poor, like Venezuela. I have no problem with someone being rich, as long as they are not a Scrooge or a Mr. Potter (from "It's A Wonderful Life").

The ones who call for redistribution of wealth generally view wealth as a zero sum resource. That's not true in a free market economy. Using John Stossel's pie analogy, in a zero sum economy there is one pie where if someone gets more, someone else gets less, therefore the idea of the rich "stealing" from the poor. In a free market economy, wealth is being generated, therefore creating more pies. If someone gets more pie (i.e. richer), it doesn't mean someone else gets less (i.e. poorer). In fact, the rich can get richer AND the poor can also get richer.

Now, when it comes to government, when they get richer, it DOES mean others get poorer. Because, the government produces nothing and don't make wealth. They only take wealth.

[JurisDictum]

It's not that complicated why libertarianism doesn't work:

Labor costs are too low.

Educational, Health, Housing, and Food expenses are too high.

In a pure market system on a timeline ends and implosion. There are no customers after awhile. Just masses of angry half-starved people.

If libertarian goverment was great -- we would have never left it.

Most of the advancements we are proud of in this country had nothing to do with libertarianism and everything to do with centralized forces organizing group efforts.

The pyramids would never be built by a libertarian system, the telecom systems and the internet would not either.

Cooperation works better than competition on a macro level.

I don't smell of cow shit, living on farms, or "living simply." I find it all extremely oppressive. Humans are more capable than that. So we made governments.

[Caldwin]

do u guys think that in a post-trump world the gop will pivot back to focusing on fiscal responsibility / free trade / forward thinking pragmatism or are we stuck in this culture war nightmare reality forever?

Since when in recent history has the GOP focused on fiscal responsibility? They may that about it. But, they spend nearly as much as the Democrats.

[Caldwin]

Plato did have an ideology, one of Meritocracy. It's one of the foundational ideas of Western ideology. In that sense maybe it is black and white. Meritocracy is an ideology that philosopher kings would do the best on top, then lower down rungs everyone has their place. Including slaves at the bottom who are better governed by other rather than themselves.

IDK where the grey is though. You either believe society should be organized according to merit or not.

My understanding of meritocracy is one's rise or fall is based on effort and abilities. There is no class system in meritocracy, because classes are a construct of segregating people by social and economic status, often set by birth rights. In a class system, there is little movement between the classes, especially moving up in class. In a meritocracy (and free market for that matter) one can go up and down the economic ladder several times in a life.

The biggest threat to US hegemony is itself. It's co-option by corporations and its subservience to undisciplined private interest with no vision beyond enriching themselves. Oligarchy in short (which Aristotle identified as an unstable system).

Nearly all that we have in modern society is from those who want to enrich themselves. Without that, there is little incentive to invent new products, services or ideas. The issue then becomes what will they do to achieve what they want. Will they cheat, steal and scam there way through until they have no customers left, or will they do the responsible thing and increase their customer base.

It creates unprofitable military adventurism, predatory capitalism, kleptocracy, and undermines popular support for our country and global support for its position as a leader.

Yep, the old "industrial military complex". This, I agree with you.

Google is giving away the mechanisms you are talking to China ATM...why? Because the US Government serves Google more than Google serves the US Government. And that is a problem.

I despise Google, which is why I use the DuckDuckGo search engine. Unfortunately, Youtube is owned by google and is the only video service like it that my blue ray player has on it. I might look at other options for my PC though.

[Caldwin]

It's not that complicated why libertarianism doesn't work:

Labor costs are too low.

Educational, Health, Housing, and Food expenses are too high.

Much of the increase in cost is due to inflation caused by the devaluing of the currency due to "printing" more currency because government can't stop its outrageous spending spree. Wages can never keep up with inflation. Wilson created the Federal Reserve and took us off the gold standard. But, the dollar was still tied to gold until Nixon came along and severed the connection completely. That's when inflation really took off. Ever since then, if the government needs more money, they just "print" more of it. It's a hidden tax on all of us. :mad:

In a pure market system on a timeline ends and implosion. There are no customers after awhile. Just masses of angry half-starved people.

I completely disagree with this. A free market system with little government interference will always survive in the end.

If libertarian goverment was great -- we would have never left it.

We didn't leave it, the government stole it from us, starting with Wilson.

Most of the advancements we are proud of in this country had nothing to do with libertarianism and everything to do with centralized forces organizing group efforts..

I disagree. Most advancements were done with individuals (or group of individuals) with great ideas, or just accidently discovering something... penicillin anyone? Even with corporations, it all comes down to individuals with ideas. Whether the ideas are viable or not will be sorted out by the free market.

You don't get that with the government. They produce mandates, whether viable or not. Most often, what comes out of governments are failures. Look at the cars from the eastern block back in communist Europe. Those were government planned cars. They were death traps, and polluted like nothing we ever saw in the US.

The pyramids would never be built by a libertarian system, the telecom systems and the internet would not either.

The pyramids were built with slave labor. Do you really want that now?

While the internet structure was built by the government, it was the free market that made it the way it is now, well, that is until big tech (i.e. Google, Facebook, Twiiter) get there way and push the upcoming newbies (gab, BitCute, Patreon, etc.) out of the way using big government as there means of doing so.

Cooperation works better than competition on a macro level.

I disagree completely

[JurisDictum]

Nearly all that we have in modern society is from those who want to enrich themselves. Without that, there is little incentive to invent new products, services or ideas. The issue then becomes what will they do to achieve what they want. Will they cheat, steal and scam there way through until they have no customers left, or will they do the responsible thing and increase their customer base.


There are so many people capable of doing more of the jobs that need to be done (which is shrinking) that they don't pay well under a unregulated supply/demand system. If you understood the concept of a historical timeline you would understand why this is not the case at first but becomes the case later.

There are much more people capable of something like office administration then there once was. Meanwhile skilled labor is not in high enough demand to provide the kind of wages needed for there to be people that can afford consumers. Things like automation and software "kill jobs" are killing more by the day.


Many of our great accomplishments and inventions have zero to do with "people trying to enrich themselves." A lot comes from the military and workers on salary. In general, its really hard to reduce someone down to "trying to enrich themselves" that isn't simply an investor.

Was Einstien trying to enrich himself? How about Newton? Even Zuckerberg will push back against this idea -- in his case you might be right -- but nonetheless, it makes zero sense to act like big accomplishments and societal projects were all because people want to be rich.

Most the time these people are trying to not focus on that. Doctors complain they can't focus on medicine etc...

You might disagree about cooperation being somehow less important for something like the internet or space travel than competition -- but I don't see what evidence you can possibly produce of this. It certainly isn't a boom to things like medical science or software development.

[Thorondor]

On wall street most is caused by stock buybacks that are mostly doled out to the executive board via bonuses; essentially stealing from shareholders and lesser employees

[Wonkie]

While I don't like big monopolistic corporations, I also don't like redistribution of wealth. All that does is make everyone equally poor, like Venezuela. I have no problem with someone being rich, as long as they are not a Scrooge or a Mr. Potter (from "It's A Wonderful Life").

The ones who call for redistribution of wealth generally view wealth as a zero sum resource. That's not true in a free market economy. Using John Stossel's pie analogy, in a zero sum economy there is one pie where if someone gets more, someone else gets less, therefore the idea of the rich "stealing" from the poor. In a free market economy, wealth is being generated, therefore creating more pies. If someone gets more pie (i.e. richer), it doesn't mean someone else gets less (i.e. poorer). In fact, the rich can get richer AND the poor can also get richer.

Now, when it comes to government, when they get richer, it DOES mean others get poorer. Because, the government produces nothing and don't make wealth. They only take wealth.

the "pie" is a visual tool to demonstrate percentage of the total amount owned by each class. it is not a literal pie.

[America]

i need a monthly slice of blueberry cream thats why im on that #yang

[Patriam1066]

UBI, ending Medicaid and Medicare (only free healthcare is mandatory OBGYN care for pregnant moms so we avoid teratogenic burdens + care til age 2/3 years old) is preferable to our current system. Buy your own care, no more disability, which I think we all can agree is widely abused by people who are able bodied enough to work at a desk. “I’m disabled.”

You can’t answer a phone? You can’t be a clerk? How disabled are you you gypsy

Anyway, Yang’s answer makes more sense IF we end Medicare and Medicaid to pay for it and instead fund it that way as opposed to his VAT. Also, if we’re going socialized medicine, German model with all our states as laboratories for their own individual insurance companies. Texas, Cali, NY, Ohio.... someone will do something that works and then we can do that nationally. Only problem is doctors and nurses make nothing in Germany and that would be catastrophic here since every redneck and minority is obese / diabetic. Houston has to be the insulin capital of the world

[JurisDictum]

https://www.germanjobs.com/2016/09/26/salaries-for-doctors-in-germany-what-can-you-expect-to-earn/

If you choose to work in a hospital, you are usually promoted according to your years of professional experience, and your salary rises accordingly. With higher responsibility comes a better salary. Chief physicians are at the top level of their career and earn the most – with an average of around €278,000 per year. As well as their work with patients, they lead a hospital department and supervise employees. Next in line are the senior physicians – they also have leading roles within the hospital and earn more than colleagues without this title. Depending on your professional experience and the type of hospital you work in, this is normally around €115,000 annually. As a fully trained doctor without a leading position, on average you are likely to earn €85,000 per year – again, this may rise with your experience.

This is a little lower, but Germans don't have to pay for their education, insurance, or healthcare expenses like they do here and America. Germany is a relatively fat and heavy smoking country (lots of beer with french fries and gravy) -- so its not like comparing us to the Swedish or something.

Yesterday I hear of some Neurosurgeon only making like $150K/year here after expenses. That kind of sucks for one of the most skilled professions there are.

High doctor pay is on the decline in America thanks to hospitals and insurance companies. Not mention the absurd serf-making loan programs that pass for education funding here. Not that we spend any less on the universities despite the huge amount we charge for things like professional and graduate school.

[Thorondor]

no more disability, which I think we all can agree is widely abused by people who are able bodied enough to work at a desk. “I’m disabled.”

You can’t answer a phone? You can’t be a clerk? How disabled are you you gypsy

Anyway, Yang’s answer makes more sense IF we end Medicare and Medicaid to pay for it and instead fund it that way as opposed to his VAT. Also, if we’re going socialized medicine, German model with all our states as laboratories for their own individual insurance companies. Texas, Cali, NY, Ohio.... someone will do something that works and then we can do that nationally. Only problem is doctors and nurses make nothing in Germany and that would be catastrophic here since every redneck and minority is obese / diabetic. Houston has to be the insulin capital of the world

Disability is what the "non-binary, pan-amorous" circus freaks embrace in order to opt out and suckle at the teet of a "system of oppression" they have no problem criticizing while massively exploiting it.

Essentially, they are embracing their role of oppressing the working class poor by burdening the working class poor with the costs of doing nothing while on the take. The same could be said of the walmart people, with their round walmart faces; there is often some overlap, obviously.

Stalin (and any good socialist, for that matter) started his "clean-up" pogroms, by exterminating these ones first. Socialism cant work with do-nothings swithering around around in their own filth, indiscriminately fucking each other while supported by the public coffers.