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Wonkie
08-08-2019, 10:45 PM
"Can't reach this page"
Why are you trying to associate me with Milo? I'm like Sam Harris in this situation, some points of his I agree, some I don't. You realize I can rationalize my own thoughts right? Not everyone falls into some category like you want them to. I know you'd LOVE to paint me in that corner to validate your point but how about arguing the issue at hand instead of trying to cop out to validate it.
haha the youtube machine is poisoning your brain. stop going there and PET A DOG instead!
entruil
08-09-2019, 08:20 AM
We choose truth over facts!
Cecily
08-09-2019, 11:02 AM
Say what you will about Texas, I don’t like the place either, but those Hungry Jack pancakes I had a hankering for were a bite above the rest. I covered a couple in organic maple syrup by accident, which made me retch a little when I remembered that I hate the taste of Canadian tree blood, but I luckily had some good ol’ fashioned American high fructose corn syrup in an Aunt Jemima bottle nearby to save breakfast.
Patriam1066
08-09-2019, 11:09 AM
Texas is great. Most of our whites aren’t pussy incels... grew up hunting and crushing blacks on the football field. Our blacks play football, and we have Hispanic women. Even as a 14 year old Iranian outcast I smashed tons of Latina spinners until I graduated to Aryans
What a great state. Still remember the Czech catholic blonde. Also, as have a brewery called “Three Nations” or maybe “3 Nations”, I’ll look when I get home. I have not tried a beer of theirs that I didn’t enjoy. Sorry y’all live in states without Mexican women or 0% stars income tax. See you in hell losers
Cecily
08-09-2019, 11:19 AM
So you hunt, play football, drink beer, and have sex in Texas, too, huh? What’s special about the place besides silly hats and yokel accents?
fortior
08-09-2019, 11:48 AM
largest number of texans in a single state
fortior
08-09-2019, 11:49 AM
the only good beer is kentucky breakfast stout
Cecily
08-09-2019, 12:15 PM
I’m thinking about getting electrolysis done in Lewisville with inheritance. There’s a place there where they numb your face and have two techs work on you at once, so you can get like 14 hours worth of treatment in 7 hours and get to look like a thousand bees stung your face. Average beard is like 50-150 hours (about $100/hour at normal places).
Also: Texans per square inch
Makes me laugh and horrified to think about at the same time.
BallzDeep
08-09-2019, 01:00 PM
Texas is special because it probably has the highest state pride overall from its residents. Although, I'd argue even that is changing. Getting a lot more people who dislike California for strict tax laws and want freedom of economic opportunity. People from California and NY are moving here for economic freedom but then argue for higher taxes for social issues.
Texas is pretty diverse too, hippies in Austin, Houston is considered one of the highest ranked for food diversity in the world and corporate Dallas.
Cecily
08-09-2019, 01:14 PM
Well, I actually considered living in Texas for about 20-30 mins. I’ll keep Austin in mind though.
“I have lived in all three cities listed. Austin was, by far, the most enjoyable and friendliest and happiest place I have ever lived....until about the mid 1980s at which time the decline began. By 2000, I considered it untenable and abandoned ship and never looked back. I spent several years in Dallas going to medical school. I really liked it. Again, it devolved, and the last time I went there 2 years ago, I was astounded. The city is impossible to navigate comfortably, they have even started charging for driving on the loop, much of the choice territory within the loop is now not only ugly, I wouldn't go there after dark. The traffic is impossible. I swore I'd never go back. I hate to miss the high quality medical conferences, but going there isn't worth it. Houston. Nearly the same comments apply. The police are nearly as bad as the criminals. The last time I went there, for a medical conference by Baylor, a woman was murdered within six feet of me in a "good" part of town. I stayed as a witness and can testify that the Houston police I encountered should be shot also. I'll never go back. All that having been said, there are many towns and cities in Texas that I see as near heaven to be in. Dallas, Houston and Austin ain't three of them.”
Horza
08-09-2019, 01:57 PM
Anger as grinning Trump gives thumbs-up while Melania holds El Paso orphan. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/09/trump-el-paso-melania-orphan-baby-thumbs-up)
On a visit to El Paso this week, the president flashed a thumbs-up when posing with the two-month-old, whose parents Andre and Jordan Anchondo were shot dead last Saturday. The orphaned child, named Paul, had been brought back to the hospital – reportedly at the request of White House during the visit by the Trumps on Wednesday.
Horza
08-09-2019, 03:27 PM
White supremacy is not an actual thing, its the work of those dastardly Jews.
Horza
08-09-2019, 03:33 PM
The man accused of carrying out last weekend’s deadly mass shooting at Walmart in the Texas border city of El Paso confessed to officers that he had been targeting Mexicans. (http://apnews.com/456c0154218a4d378e2fb36cd40b709d?utm_campaign)
Crusius later waived his Miranda Rights and agreed to speak with detectives, telling them that he had driven to El Paso from the Dallas suburb of Allen — which is where he lived and is a more than 10-hour drive from El Paso — and that he was targeting Mexicans in the attack.
Horza
08-09-2019, 05:30 PM
English, please.
Patriam1066
08-09-2019, 05:38 PM
It’s sad that 21 year olds, regardless of ideology, are already so isolated in life that they adopt a reason to commit mass murder. Even sadder that his mom called the cops and they did nothing
Wonkie
08-09-2019, 05:50 PM
Miraculously, jihadists stop jihadding conveniently when "white supremacists" start supremacising.
Nothing to see here sheople, just white supremacists supremacising like they are wont to do.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr, and your trustworthy gubbment/corporate media machine.
They stopped jihadding because THE TROOPS made them stop. I'm down for a similar solution.
fortior
08-09-2019, 07:01 PM
say what you want about the mujahideen but at least they have an ethos
Vasarious
08-09-2019, 07:30 PM
The man accused of carrying out last weekend’s deadly mass shooting at Walmart in the Texas border city of El Paso confessed to officers that he had been targeting Mexicans. (http://apnews.com/456c0154218a4d378e2fb36cd40b709d?utm_campaign)
Crusius later waived his Miranda Rights and agreed to speak with detectives, telling them that he had driven to El Paso from the Dallas suburb of Allen — which is where he lived and is a more than 10-hour drive from El Paso — and that he was targeting Mexicans in the attack.
It's funny how you are so heavily invested in the Texas shooter and what his motives are. I wonder if you leave out the Dayton shooter because it doesn't fit your narrative, or you genuinely don't know what his agenda was.
I'm sure you are a parrot of CNN so in your defense, you won't see it in any main stream outlet because it doesn't look good on what they try to push on the ignorant disciples, but I would suggest to try and think for yourself.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dayton-shooter-reportedly-supported-gun-control-elizabeth-warren-and-socialism%3f_amp=true
If you don't click the link, short summary: avowed socalist, gun control advocate, liberal activist, elizabeth warren (what a stange choice of all his options) supporter. Evidently he thought Socalist version of gun control = i can have my gun and use it, but i will take yours so you cant stop me. Unfortunately that mindset seems to come with the territory. RiP Venezuela.
Both shooters are garbage, motive is irrelevant. An insane sociopath doesn't need a legitimate motive, just an excuse.
fortior
08-09-2019, 07:35 PM
kinda fills me with hope that no matter which side wins, american citizens will still kill each other. it's a strange feeling of security.
Cecily
08-09-2019, 07:39 PM
kinda fills me with hope that no matter which side wins, american citizens will still kill each other. it's a strange feeling of security.
It validates my decision to not pursue employment or otherwise leave my house. Not getting skin cancer or shot has kept my skin looking amazing.
Horza
08-09-2019, 08:20 PM
when our deep state handlers need that narrative to be brought back in fashion after this whole "white supremacist" fad blows over.
This is what too much Youtube does to your brain.
Horza
08-09-2019, 08:23 PM
You just had to edit a couple slurs in there.
rebeccablack
08-09-2019, 08:54 PM
i dont want to put you on the spot throndor but your meltdown after the nz shooting that got you banned set my expectations pretty high, dont let me down buddy
Wonkie
08-09-2019, 10:33 PM
confession: I like it when throndor calls me a faggot it makes me giggle
Patriam1066
08-10-2019, 09:30 AM
Oh god Jeffrey Epsteinberg dead in an apparent suicide. Can’t wait to hear what Raev says about the “deep state” on this one
feniin
08-10-2019, 09:34 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if someone had him killed but that's way too conspiratorial for me to rely on. Good riddance. Hopefully his possessions and documents get other pedophiles put behind bars too.
Wonkie
08-10-2019, 10:51 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if someone had him killed but that's way too conspiratorial for me to rely on. Good riddance. Hopefully his possessions and documents get other pedophiles put behind bars too.
Is it even a conspiracy theory if they make it this obvious?
Horza
08-10-2019, 01:32 PM
A Trump Official Just Posted on Instagram That Jeffrey Epstein Was “Hillary’d” (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/lynne-patton-hillary-bill-clinton-jeffrey-epstein-conspiracy-theory/)
Wonkie
08-10-2019, 01:55 PM
#Hillary'd
True
Horza
08-10-2019, 03:02 PM
Can you not go two posts without calling someone a fag?
Horza
08-10-2019, 03:07 PM
You sound like an angry 12 year old.
Horza
08-10-2019, 03:17 PM
You use the word to describe him, me, and everyone on this forum who disagrees with you. We get it already, you have a fetish.
Horza
08-10-2019, 03:24 PM
You sound like a 12 year old.
Horza
08-10-2019, 03:26 PM
Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221)
A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.
fortior
08-10-2019, 05:51 PM
if you want to stop supporting pedophiles as an american citizen, start dodging the tax man
Horza
08-10-2019, 06:06 PM
RIP Thorondor
Horza
08-10-2019, 06:16 PM
The President of the United States just suggested that the Clintons had Jeffrey Epstein murdered. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily
rebeccablack
08-10-2019, 06:16 PM
who could have possibly predicted this
Wonkie
08-10-2019, 06:53 PM
The President of the United States just suggested that the Clintons had Jeffrey Epstein murdered. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily
Can u prove they didnt
feanan
08-12-2019, 09:02 AM
Can u prove they didnt
Yep, because according to the trump russian probe, you no longer need
evidence of guilt. you now need proof to exonerate them. guilty until proven innocent.
can anyone prove the clintons didn't do it?
case closed!
NegaStoat
08-12-2019, 12:18 PM
Yep, because according to the trump russian probe, you no longer need
evidence of guilt. you now need proof to exonerate them. guilty until proven innocent.
can anyone prove the clintons didn't do it?
case closed!
In all fairness, that was the same situation with the Kavanaugh hearing. A lady shows up 30 some years later and accuses you of rape, with no police report, witnesses, or anything to back it up, and she's not even sure of the address, date, or time of when it happened? 'Credible evidence' is now present, and you get to defend yourself on TV.
Horza
08-12-2019, 12:44 PM
Trump Uses Accents to Mock Japanese, Korean Allies at Hamptons Fundraiser (https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/trump-cracks-jokes-about-rent-control-kamikaze-pilots-at-hamptons-fundraiser/)
BallzDeep
08-12-2019, 05:57 PM
Video of Trump mocking Japanese and Korean please? Not saying it didn't happen but think you or NYP often have too much credulity.
Also mocking someone's accent in a non-pejorative way isn't racist. If that were the case, any time someone was impersonated, they would be a racist.
Wonkie
08-12-2019, 06:38 PM
Video of Trump mocking Japanese and Korean please? Not saying it didn't happen but think you or NYP often have too much credulity.
Also mocking someone's accent in a non-pejorative way isn't racist. If that were the case, any time someone was impersonated, they would be a racist.
Here's a meme for you, Galaxy brain
https://i.imgur.com/1qsRGUD.jpg
Patriam1066
08-12-2019, 07:16 PM
We shouldn’t be paying for korea’s or Israel’s defense. He’s right and they are rich
Vietnamese have the worst accents though. Sounds like if mandarin was spoken while someone was gargling
Patriam1066
08-12-2019, 07:18 PM
TRUMP isn’t Augustus, but it’s time for democracy to go. Y’all are sinners who can’t count calories. Hail the Principate and emperor Buttigieg
Wonkie
08-12-2019, 10:16 PM
We shouldn’t be paying for korea’s or Israel’s defense. He’s right and they are rich
Vietnamese have the worst accents though. Sounds like if mandarin was spoken while someone was gargling
What if it's good for the private sector(this means defense industry lol) for us to pay it? Also some mad gay shit about diplomatic credibility haha
TRUMP isn’t Augustus, but it’s time for democracy to go. Y’all are sinners who can’t count calories. Hail the Principate and emperor Buttigieg
Gabbard/Buttigieg is an acceptable ticket, Americans love our killers don't we folks? Not sarcasm
Wonkie
08-12-2019, 10:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/C5IUG4Z.jpg
Tex this is my mental image of you but a shorter darker beard. He's a nazi puncher tho
Patriam1066
08-12-2019, 10:45 PM
Damn dude I’m 54 not 80
Not too far off racially though
Patriam1066
08-12-2019, 10:48 PM
What if it's good for the private sector(this means defense industry lol) for us to pay it? Also some mad gay shit about diplomatic credibility haha
Gabbard/Buttigieg is an acceptable ticket, Americans love our killers don't we folks? Not sarcasm
Buttigieg can “lower the heat” between the rival “tribes” in America if you will. That’s necessary right now. As for the defense industry, the prison industry, the fossil fuel industry, the pharmaceutical industry....
Everyone has their hand out. If you’re a homeless beggar or a corporation paying zero taxes, you’re still a detriment to the Empire. No one rides for free. (It’s time we start holding these fucks accountable)
Wonkie
08-12-2019, 10:53 PM
Buttigieg can “lower the heat” between the rival “tribes” in America if you will. That’s necessary right now. As for the defense industry, the prison industry, the fossil fuel industry, the pharmaceutical industry....
Everyone has their hand out. If you’re a homeless beggar or a corporation paying zero taxes, you’re still a detriment to the Empire. No one rides for free. (It’s time we start holding these fucks accountable)
I worry the blacks will never vote for an f-slur, as shown by the California prop 8 gay marriage thing a few years ago
Wonkie
08-12-2019, 11:05 PM
Damn dude I’m 54 not 80
That's what I meant with the beard thing. He ain't bad, but probably hairy. :o
Patriam1066
08-12-2019, 11:36 PM
I’m pretty hairy so yeah lining up
Buttigieg / Harris or Buttigieg / Booker clears that problem up. But yes Buttigieg will attract less melanin than most candidates. However, I think he’s a sane centrist and the country will vote for that over these morons calling each other racist and proposing free healthcare for El Salvador at a time when the rednecks are in an opioid induced frenzy over fine as hell hispanic women crossing the border. We truly are living in strange times
Why don’t the incels bang the Mexicans instead of shooting them? I don’t understand the youth at all
Wonkie
08-13-2019, 02:48 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/europe/berlin-tempelhof-sex-work-sex-booth-intl-scli-grm/index.html
(CNN)Berlin's former Tempelhof airport has witnessed some major events in its time -- a Nazi airfield during World War II, it was the site of the Berlin airlift during the Cold War, and most recently an emergency shelter for refugees fleeing Syria.
In 2008, it was taken out of service and transformed into a gigantic park, and Berliners can now be seen rollerblading down its former runways on summer evenings.
But the airfield may soon take on less wholesome role, if one local politician gets his way.
The mayor of Berlin's central Mitte district has proposed installing "Verichtungsboxen" -- booths where prostitutes can meet clients -- in the airport site, a bid to improve the safety of the city's sex workers. These include drive-in booths, where customers can meet sex workers in their own vehicles.
Wonkie
08-13-2019, 03:50 PM
i cant believe immigrants coming here can immediately apply for welfare and get food stamps. I thought you had to be a citizen to get these wonderful handouts???
Refugees?
Hi Mario
Cecily
08-13-2019, 06:08 PM
I worry the blacks will never vote for an f-slur, as shown by the California prop 8 gay marriage thing a few years ago
There's a black kid at McDonalds who smiles at me and freezes his zygomatic muscles into a dead, albeit crazy eye fake smile and holds it while locking eye contact through my iced coffee transaction. I had to wait 15 mins for it yesterday.
Why won't he love me?
feniin
08-13-2019, 08:14 PM
they arent refugees
a refugee flees a conflict, the only conflict in south america and central america is poverty.
thats not a conflict
lying about a "gang" So you can seek asylum and get adopted by america as an adult is unacceptable
why do you care where someone came out of their mother's vagina?
Wonkie
08-13-2019, 08:35 PM
they arent refugees
a refugee flees a conflict, the only conflict in south america and central america is poverty.
thats not a conflict
lying about a "gang" So you can seek asylum and get adopted by america as an adult is unacceptable
legally you have to treat them(asylum seekers) as genuine until proven otherwise. im sorry
also cocaine i guess? alot of the violence in central and south america is stoked by America's appetite for drugs
Horza
08-13-2019, 09:11 PM
You couldn't last a week, Thorondor?
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 12:57 PM
I’m pretty hairy so yeah lining up
Buttigieg / Harris or Buttigieg / Booker clears that problem up. But yes Buttigieg will attract less melanin than most candidates. However, I think he’s a sane centrist and the country will vote for that over these morons calling each other racist and proposing free healthcare for El Salvador at a time when the rednecks are in an opioid induced frenzy over fine as hell hispanic women crossing the border. We truly are living in strange times
Why don’t the incels bang the Mexicans instead of shooting them? I don’t understand the youth at all
A sane centrist that is okay with infringing on second amendment rights and most likely being "f-slur" would be open to what is deemed as "hate speech." Refers to the President as a white nationalist. From what I saw on the debates, he is left. There are not really any centrist in this debate.
To touch on Horza's meme and your comment at the same time, anyone who is stupid enough to want more socialized programs from the government, would not be a candidate I would be interested in. Government programs have continuously failed time and time again and they fail worse than private sectors.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 01:06 PM
legally you have to treat them(asylum seekers) as genuine until proven otherwise. im sorry
also cocaine i guess? alot of the violence in central and south america is stoked by America's appetite for drugs
Legally, you don't. Asylum seekers refers to neighboring countries only. If you are coming from Honduras, you can't say I want to legally seek asylum in the US or U.K. or a country that I deem is great enough for me. If you want to seek asylum, you seek the closest resource available.
The conflict in Central and South America go far back. Further back than even the Cold War. But, during the Cold War, these countries were manipulated. Russia and the US were trying to install their form of government for "allied" forces across the globe and spread their ideology. This caused a greater form of conflict between these countries, along with drug trade and other issues. This caused a ripple effect for those territories on different ideologies and constant conflict. It predates even the Cold War but that was the point where money and world powers were involved. My opinion is that this still have an effect on the chaos in those places today.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 01:18 PM
Legally, you don't. Asylum seekers refers to neighboring countries only. If you are coming from Honduras, you can't say I want to legally seek asylum in the US or U.K. or a country that I deem is great enough for me. If you want to seek asylum, you seek the closest resource available.
The conflict in Central and South America go far back. Further back than even the Cold War. But, during the Cold War, these countries were manipulated. Russia and the US were trying to install their form of government for "allied" forces across the globe and spread their ideology. This caused a greater form of conflict between these countries, along with drug trade and other issues. This caused a ripple effect for those territories on different ideologies and constant conflict. It predates even the Cold War but that was the point where money and world powers were involved. My opinion is that this still have an effect on the chaos in those places today.
This makes no sense. We take refugees from Cambodia, from Somalia, etc. Which YouTuber told you this shit?
Horza
08-14-2019, 01:28 PM
Only Canadians can legally seek asylum in the United States.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 03:31 PM
This makes no sense. We take refugees from Cambodia, from Somalia, etc. Which YouTuber told you this shit?
Lol you are too dumb to debate. You are conflating two different laws. We take refugees from Cambodia, Somalia under granted asylum. They don't just walk up to our check points and say let me in and the answer is yes.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 03:37 PM
"the change to asylum rules making it so that migrants had to have made an asylum claim at a previous country while en route to the U.S. before arriving to the southern border — anyone who hasn’t becomes ineligible for asylum in the U.S."
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 03:38 PM
The European Court of Justice (ECJ), supreme court for the European Union (EU), has ruled that would-be migrants must seek asylum in the first country they reach.
Europe's reference of asylum as well.
This isn't youtube bias, this is just basic information that anyone can look up and you are too stupid to before you express your opinion.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 03:47 PM
It's easier to have you look it up for me
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 03:51 PM
It's easier to have you look it up for me
Just so you can eat your words after, well played. Great critical thinking skills and a shining beacon for the left.
Horza
08-14-2019, 03:52 PM
Trump will probably end asylum altogether next month, 2020 can't come soon enough.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 03:54 PM
Just so you can eat your words after, well played. Great critical thinking skills and a shining beacon for the left.
Ok Google, how recent was the first country asylum rule adopted?
Horza
08-14-2019, 03:57 PM
Ok Google, how recent was the first country asylum rule adopted?
About two weeks ago.
rebeccablack
08-14-2019, 04:15 PM
the article that he pulled that policy description from literally states that its not the law and is in fact being challenged in the courts for potentially violating domestic and international law. theyre not sending their best, folks.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 04:41 PM
the article that he pulled that policy description from literally states that its not the law and is in fact being challenged in the courts for potentially violating domestic and international law. theyre not sending their best, folks.
Your reading comprehension is bad. The article states previously that the Supreme Court had ruled in the EU that asylum must be to neighboring countries but wasn't a law in the US as of yet. Two weeks ago it was enacted.
Even before the law, you couldn't just walk up and claim asylum.
Asylum has two basic requirements. First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution from their Government in their home country.[5] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group
Basically they would vet you and if you didn't exhaust all options, you would be denied. This has been the case for quite some time. Trump just enacted the language to make it law just incase any liberal idiot with half a brain thought they could twist the original "asylum" definition. Same with the second amendment. People like you now argue there is a possibility it didn't mean citizens of the US.
Horza
08-14-2019, 04:49 PM
A U.S. federal judge on Friday struck down one of President Donald Trump’s initiatives to curtail asylum claims, ruling that the government could not reject migrants who had crossed the border illegally. A different federal judge had already put a temporary block on the policy, which would have rejected asylum claims from people who entered the United States between legal ports of entry. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/trump-rule-restricting-asylum-seekers-struck-down-by-court-idUSKCN1US2JK)
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 04:54 PM
Your reading comprehension is bad. The article states previously that the Supreme Court had ruled in the EU that asylum must be to neighboring countries but wasn't a law in the US as of yet. Two weeks ago it was enacted.
Even before the law, you couldn't just walk up and claim asylum.
Asylum has two basic requirements. First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution from their Government in their home country.[5] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group
Basically they would vet you and if you didn't exhaust all options, you would be denied. This has been the case for quite some time. Trump just enacted the language to make it law just incase any liberal idiot with half a brain thought they could twist the original "asylum" definition. Same with the second amendment. People like you now argue there is a possibility it didn't mean citizens of the US.
Isnt that just Western Europe telling Eastern Europe 'haha sucks for you not our problem'.
The EU is illegitimate.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 04:56 PM
A U.S. federal judge on Friday struck down one of President Donald Trump’s initiatives to curtail asylum claims, ruling that the government could not reject migrants who had crossed the border illegally. A different federal judge had already put a temporary block on the policy, which would have rejected asylum claims from people who entered the United States between legal ports of entry. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/trump-rule-restricting-asylum-seekers-struck-down-by-court-idUSKCN1US2JK)
"U.S. District Judge Timothy J. Kelly, a Trump appointee, declined to halt the policy, setting up a potential race to federal appellate courts over one of the administration’s key migration initiatives."
It's already on the federal register. I know you'd like to take one article from a Federal Judge in CA that temporarily blocks the motion but, it isn't a dead policy unlike you seem to be insinuating. As I reiterate, there is already a rule set in place, it just justifies the rule.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 04:59 PM
Isnt that just Western Europe telling Eastern Europe 'haha sucks for you not our problem'.
The EU is illegitimate.
Mainly I think they are sick of the middle east and some of that ideology seeping into their culture. Most places in Europe are not as oppressive as places such as Syria, Afghanistan, etc. Look at a flow chart of immigration for EU.
Horza
08-14-2019, 05:09 PM
The point is it has yet to be settled in the courts and Trump doesn't have the best record.
Horza
08-14-2019, 05:12 PM
Mainly I think they are sick of the middle east and some of that ideology seeping into their culture.
Just say they don't want Arabs, the dog whistles make you look like a coward.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 05:27 PM
Just say they don't want Arabs, the dog whistles make you look like a coward.
I look like a coward because I choose not to speak for a whole population of people for their various reasons of why they might not want people from Middle East. I'm just going off the data.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=276&pictureid=1258
https://www.project1999.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=276&pictureid=1257
Horza
08-14-2019, 05:43 PM
If you have something to say then say it, quit hiding behind euphemisms and nonexistent data.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 05:47 PM
Anyway the President doesn't make laws
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 06:01 PM
If you have something to say then say it, quit hiding behind euphemisms and nonexistent data.
I've already said it, you just don't listen and your only source of data is quips like "Quit acting like a 12 year old", "You love the word fag", "I'm not but you are." You are just dying to call me a racist, I can already read it from the way you form your debates.
Instead, I'll challenge you. If you want my opinion on something, ask it. No, I'm not a racist. Yes, I want only legal immigration, regardless of race.
President does assist in making laws, yes.
Horza
08-14-2019, 06:12 PM
Trump just enacted the language to make it law just incase any liberal idiot with half a brain thought they could twist the original "asylum" definition.
Mainly I think they are sick of the middle east
I choose not to speak for a whole population of people for their various reasons of why they might not want people from Middle East.
You're certainly giving the impression that you are a racist.
Horza
08-14-2019, 06:13 PM
Homophobic too.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 06:42 PM
President does assist in making laws, yes.
Weird how he's supposed to only sign or veto.
Almost like Executive Orders overruling Congress are unconstitutional.
Impeach 45
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 09:34 PM
Homophobic too.
You are just validating the meme.
Weird how he's supposed to only sign or veto.
Almost like Executive Orders overruling Congress are unconstitutional.
Impeach 45
No, the President influences Congress to pass new laws.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
Point being, nothing to see here. Executive orders are used by Democrat and Republican alike. The highest per year going to FDR.
Wonkie
08-14-2019, 10:24 PM
You are just validating the meme.
No, the President influences Congress to pass new laws.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
Point being, nothing to see here. Executive orders are used by Democrat and Republican alike. The highest per year going to FDR.
Still unconstitutional bud
Impeach
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 10:59 PM
"Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it. ... However, the United States Supreme Court overturned the lower court order, and affirmed that the executive order was within the constitutional authority of the president."
Not saying I agree with them, not really sure my point of view on those. It varies. But, if you want to debate with someone or do a "gotcha," make sure what you are saying is factually correct otherwise you won't really make sense when you have to explain your position.
BallzDeep
08-14-2019, 11:08 PM
Also interesting read about Washington's first executive orders.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160514023700/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/14/dibacco-the-first-president-had-a-pen-but-no-phone
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 12:41 AM
"Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it. ... However, the United States Supreme Court overturned the lower court order, and affirmed that the executive order was within the constitutional authority of the president."
Not saying I agree with them, not really sure my point of view on those. It varies. But, if you want to debate with someone or do a "gotcha," make sure what you are saying is factually correct otherwise you won't really make sense when you have to explain your position.
https://i.imgur.com/4YRmOtH.jpg
this looks like machine text.
Patriam1066
08-15-2019, 09:53 AM
Just say they don't want Arabs, the dog whistles make you look like a coward.
Who cares dude no one does. Iran is taking Syria Iraq and Lebanon hope this helps plebs
Horza
08-15-2019, 01:41 PM
Biden allies float scaling back events to limit gaffes. (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457486-biden-allies-float-scaling-back-events-to-limit-gaffes)
Over the weekend, he mistakenly said he had met with students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., during his time as vice president. The school was attacked by a gunman more than a year after Biden’s term as vice president ended. That gaffe came two days after he told an audience of Asian and Hispanic voters that “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”
Horza
08-15-2019, 04:16 PM
President Trump urged Israel to deny entry to two U.S. congresswomen, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, in an effort to punish domestic rivals. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/world/middleeast/trump-israel-omar-tlaib.html)
Mr. Trump’s intervention was an extraordinary step to influence an allied nation and punish his political opponents at home. While Israeli officials were still deliberating the matter, he said in a Twitter post that “it would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib to visit.”
Jibartik
08-15-2019, 04:18 PM
More op-ed being passed off as real news, from the failing NYT
https://youtu.be/ec4IhOymdJ4
Horza
08-15-2019, 04:24 PM
Trump posted the tweet, not the New York Times. Not that you read the article in the 90 seconds it took you to reply.
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 04:29 PM
More op-ed being passed off as real news, from the failing NYT
https://youtu.be/ec4IhOymdJ4
https://i.imgur.com/q24k2u5.jpg
*insults you*
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 08:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4YRmOtH.jpg
this looks like machine text.
Funny because it came from Wikipedia.
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 08:37 PM
Funny because it came from Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
The United States Constitution does not have a provision that explicitly permits the use of executive orders.
Impeach.
E: Also, sidenote that I don't intend to be political: The edit history on that page is DEEP with some guy called ApexPredatorTk vandalizing it. Probably to drive traffic to his sites on the .tk domain.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 10:35 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
Impeach.
E: Also, sidenote that I don't intend to be political: The edit history on that page is DEEP with some guy called ApexPredatorTk vandalizing it. Probably to drive traffic to his sites on the .tk domain.
I hear ya but the very next sentence is:
The U.S. Supreme Court has held[6] that all executive orders from the president of the United States must be supported by the Constitution, whether from a clause granting specific power, or by Congress delegating such to the executive branch.
Also negating the fact that the first President ever held executive orders and every President there after.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 10:46 PM
President Trump urged Israel to deny entry to two U.S. congresswomen, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, in an effort to punish domestic rivals. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/world/middleeast/trump-israel-omar-tlaib.html)
Mr. Trump’s intervention was an extraordinary step to influence an allied nation and punish his political opponents at home. While Israeli officials were still deliberating the matter, he said in a Twitter post that “it would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib to visit.”
I don't get it. Let me get this straight. You are probably okay with politicians telling celebrities and the likes not to visit Trump. You are okay with politicians blasting anyone who financially supports Trump. You are okay with people calling anyone you meet that is a Trump supporter a racist but....you draw the line when Trump in jest, suggests Israel shouldn't let them come in after denouncing him, calling him a racist and campaigning that Israel is evil.
I know you are a little slow but the point being....they are the exact same thing. Israel made it's own choice.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 10:48 PM
I'd also agree with this statement.
On an intellectual and moral level, they have no duty to bring in Omar and Tlaib. On a PR level, it's a big mistake," "It's a PR blunder for them to give Omar and Tlaib what they want, which is to make the state of Israel look intolerant."
Horza
08-15-2019, 10:54 PM
Keep reading the article.
By enlisting a foreign power to take action against two American citizens, let alone elected members of Congress, Mr. Trump crossed a line that other presidents have not, in effect exporting his partisan battles beyond the country’s borders. And he demonstrated the lengths that he will go to to target his domestic opponents, in this case two of the congresswomen of color he has sought to make the face of the Democratic Party heading into his re-election campaign.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 11:06 PM
Keep reading the article.
Read it. Still not convinced. Don't see how you don't see how this opinion piece is riddled with emotional rhetoric.
By enlisting a foreign power to take action against two American citizens
Trigger words for your safe space. "Enlist, take action, foreign power, American citizens." Making a comment on twitter isn't enlisting. He said they would look weak. Similar to the rhetoric of calling someone a racist bigot meanwhile, the guy supports Ben Carson, Arsenio Hall won celebrity apprentice. From what I've seen, a racist wouldn't let anyone of color win anything(albeit you'd be hard pressed to find one). I'm sure you'd argue there is levels of racist now or his racism wouldn't evolve yet.
And he demonstrated the lengths that he will go to to target his domestic opponents, in this case two of the congresswomen of color he has sought to make the face of the Democratic Party
Complete and utter opinion. It's this persons opinion that he wants to make the congresswomen of "color" the face of the democratic party. More trigger words for your safe space - "Demonstrated the lengths, target, domestic opponents, congresswomen of color." They've already got you hooked, lined and sinker.
Here would be my example of an unbiased version of the events:
"Today, President Trump tweeted "It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!" Shortly after, Israel barred Omar and Tlaib from entering Israel. There is an ongoing debate between Trump and Omar/Tlaib in regards to rhetoric, ideology and immigration."
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 11:09 PM
I hear ya but the very next sentence is:
The U.S. Supreme Court has held[6] that all executive orders from the president of the United States must be supported by the Constitution, whether from a clause granting specific power, or by Congress delegating such to the executive branch.
bolded, there ya go. they haven't.
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:16 PM
I thought you said that it was just a joke, but here you go:
enlist: to secure the support and aid of, employ in advancing an interest, to win over (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enlist)
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:17 PM
So many edits.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 11:26 PM
bolded, there ya go. they haven't.
You realize you and Horza both love to reference things that have a warped reality of the definition of something.
You are literally arguing for things that have very little context in reality and cherry picking them to justify your argument. Little selfish don't you think. Ignore all other literature and the fact that since the beginning of our government, Executive Orders have been used from President to President, year after year but you'd like to warp reality to call it unconstitutional based on your standards? I'd argue since no crime has been committed or conviction given out through due process, it currently within the legal scale. You'd like to ignore all that.
I thought you said that it was just a joke, but here you go:
enlist: to secure the support and aid of, employ in advancing an interest, to win over
You don't get it either. Enlist is a variable word that has alternate meanings. Hence the other definitions:
1
a
: to secure the support and aid of : employ in advancing an interest
enlist all the available resources
enlisted our help
b
: to win over : attract
trying to enlist my sympathies
2
: to engage (a person) for duty in the armed forces
intransitive verb
1
: to enroll oneself in the armed forces
will enlist for three years
2
: to participate heartily (as in a cause, drive, or crusade)
When people hear enlist, like you. You think of it as extreme example. You believe Trump called them directly and ordered them not to allow them. Trump posted a troll post, like always. Omar and Tlaib are anti-Israel. Israel is very protective about it's beliefs period. We are also allies. They probably thought fuck Omar and Tlaib, we don't like them, Trump doesn't like them, they hate us and are coming here to disapprove of us, they aren't coming.
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:29 PM
No, I don't believe that. I'm also not sure that you understand how words work.
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 11:34 PM
You realize you and Horza both love to reference things that have a warped reality of the definition of something.
You are literally arguing for things that have very little context in reality and cherry picking them to justify your argument. Little selfish don't you think. Ignore all other literature and the fact that since the beginning of our government, Executive Orders have been used from President to President, year after year but you'd like to warp reality to call it unconstitutional based on your standards? I'd argue since no crime has been committed or conviction given out through due process, it currently within the legal scale. You'd like to ignore all that.
I'm saying unless the current Congress(116th) has granted him that authority(they haven't) his order is not Constitutional.
Impeach Donald Trump.
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 11:37 PM
No, I don't believe that. I'm also not sure that you understand how words work.
props on getting him to quote the dictionary at you.
next level is hog
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:40 PM
Donald Trump reportedly wants to purchase Greenland from Denmark. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223)
Some of his advisers have supported the concept, saying it was a good economic play, two of the people said, while others dismissed it as a fleeting fascination that will never come to fruition.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 11:49 PM
No, I don't believe that. I'm also not sure that you understand how words work.
I do understand how words work. Freedom of speech is absolute. Trump can say what he wants. An action by Trump, there is a justification. Laws in place. Something you deem as "enlisting" is a matter of opinion. Just as I think people calling Trump a racist is unfounded. These are opinions.
You are taking the definition as a fact with no bias and referencing the only definition out of 4 that doesn't coincide with directly influencing someone. Even your one is a close definition of a direct influence, first example is "enlist ALL available resources." "Enlisted our help," most people think "I enlisted my buddy to help me move." In case you don't know and you want to argue that....A direct influence is person to person. An indirect influence is through something such as a tweet.
My opinion on you is left in awe. I imagine you as this safe space SJW warrior that has no degree of self preservation. If you were left to you devices, you'd probably die. 0 experience with firearms, self defense or hard work. If someone called you'd a name at McDonalds, I'd guess you'd say they were racist and you are probably white. Ofcourse this is all my opinion but, what a world we live in.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 11:51 PM
props on getting him to quote the dictionary at you.
next level is hog
Thanks, since Horza quoted the dictionary and I re-referenced. Is that a win and a win or?
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:54 PM
Freedom of speech is not absolute (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions), and I can't even understand what you're trying to say.
The author used the word correctly, you just quoted the definition.
BallzDeep
08-15-2019, 11:54 PM
But I'm gonna step out of this debate. Can't argue with the mental disarranged. The left is already bad. You mix Everquest with a leftist who can't comprehend hypocrisy and bias, it's probably one of the most unstable mixes in the world.
Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment include obscenity (as determined by the Miller test), fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct,[10] speech that incites imminent lawless action, and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising.
These are all crimes that incur an action. Speech is absolute. When people say Freedom of speech is absolute, they mean freedom is absolute as long as it is not an action or a call to action. You can read more about that in your spare time. Good luck.
Horza
08-15-2019, 11:57 PM
Run away, run away.
Wonkie
08-15-2019, 11:58 PM
Thanks, since Horza quoted the dictionary and I re-referenced. Is that a win and a win or?
I don't care who did it first, go to your room
Run away, run away.
Horza
08-16-2019, 12:02 AM
That lasted all of thirty seconds.
Horza
08-16-2019, 12:03 AM
absolute: having no restriction, exception, or qualification (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/absolute)
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 12:33 PM
Missing the point. Freedom of speech is absolute as long as it is not a call to action or infringement on others rights. You can argue the specifics of that all you want to take away from the point that nothing Trump did was a crime.
When people refer to freedom of speech is absolute, of course there are regulations. There are regulations in the founding document that states libel. I pointed this out earlier. The term refers to, there is no such thing as hate speech, racist speech, "enlisting" speech. These are not crimes.
You are agreeing with me and obviously don't get it, freedom of speech being absolute refers to that we have a Constitution in place. Absolute being the first amendment, written in word and hasn't been doctored. We don't grant the right, we protect the right.
So, in the US, it takes a huge amount of effort to curve people from literally saying anything they want, any time they want. You have to show that the restriction of speech is because it infringes on other people's rights, or other more important rights. A great example is yelling fire in a crowded movie theater when there is no fire. This is restricted because it causes bodily harm. A similar restriction would exist if, by my merely saying a word, people died
Horza
08-16-2019, 12:42 PM
I'm not agreeing with you, words have meanings whether you like them or not.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 12:56 PM
Missing the point. Freedom of speech is absolute as long as it is not a call to action or infringement on others rights. You can argue the specifics of that all you want to take away from the point that nothing Trump did was a crime.
When people refer to freedom of speech is absolute, of course there are regulations. There are regulations in the founding document that states libel. I pointed this out earlier. The term refers to, there is no such thing as hate speech, racist speech, "enlisting" speech. These are not crimes.
You are agreeing with me and obviously don't get it, freedom of speech being absolute refers to that we have a Constitution in place. Absolute being the first amendment, written in word and hasn't been doctored. We don't grant the right, we protect the right.
So, in the US, it takes a huge amount of effort to curve people from literally saying anything they want, any time they want. You have to show that the restriction of speech is because it infringes on other people's rights, or other more important rights. A great example is yelling fire in a crowded movie theater when there is no fire. This is restricted because it causes bodily harm. A similar restriction would exist if, by my merely saying a word, people died
It's not illegal to say slurs. You just get fired and/or ridiculed. Neither of which violates your rights.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 12:59 PM
Anyway free speech has a degenerative effect on society. It comes down to whether you value your culture or value liberty. Accept it or become a Muslim.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 12:59 PM
It's not illegal to say slurs. You just get fired and/or ridiculed. Neither of which violates your rights.
Depends on where you work. Go to a Islamic bakery and try to get a gay wedding cake for you and your partner. Matter of opinion. Looking at the world through a telescope again I see.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:02 PM
Anyway free speech has a degenerative effect on society. It comes down to whether you value your culture or value liberty. Accept it or become a Muslim.
Tell that to Nazi Germany who regulated Free Speech deemed on what they found appropriate. You're difference of opinion on killing jews could get you killed. Freedom of speech is what led every civil rights movement, ever.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:03 PM
Depends on where you work. Go to a Islamic bakery and try to get a gay wedding cake for you and your partner. Matter of opinion. Looking at the world through a telescope again I see.
The case you're referencing was a punt. SCOTUS did not decide it on discriminatory grounds, but on religious freedom. The state of Colorado displayed animosity so they lost. No precedent was created.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:04 PM
‘We’re NOT for sale:’ Greenland shoots down Trump plan to buy island. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark-purchase-sale-white-house-buy-response-arctic-latest-a9062096.html)
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:04 PM
Tell that to Nazi Germany who regulated Free Speech deemed on what they found appropriate. You're difference of opinion on killing jews could get you killed. Freedom of speech is what led every civil rights movement, ever.
We're not disagreeing, you just have a malformed understanding of rights. They only protect you from government persecution, not social.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:07 PM
The case you're referencing was a punt. SCOTUS did not decide it on discriminatory grounds, but on religious freedom. The state of Colorado displayed animosity so they lost. No precedent was created.
Do some more research, there is absolutely no precedent set that requires someone to serve someone in their place of business. There isn't just one case. There are thousands.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:09 PM
What happened to stepping out of this debate?
Yeah, I stepped out for the night, went to bed. Came back to work and it's been slow these past couple weeks, so I decided to spend some time discussing politics. I post on here maybe for a month out of a year. You don't. Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:10 PM
We're not disagreeing, you just have a malformed understanding of rights. They only protect you from government persecution, not social.
There is no such thing as social persecution that is recognized by a collective group of people. We call those vigilantes and they get persecuted by the government law in the US. You can socially denounce someone, just as you are now but that isn't persecution.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:10 PM
You said one thing and did the opposite, pretty cowardly.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:11 PM
Do some more research, there is absolutely no precedent set that requires someone to serve someone in their place of business. There isn't just one case. There are thousands.
right, SCOTUS declined to address the question and found a different basis. The question is still unsettled, that's what a punt is.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:12 PM
Then again, I'm not sure you understand how words work.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:13 PM
There is no such thing as social persecution that is recognized by a collective group of people. We call those vigilantes and they get persecuted by the government law in the US. You can socially denounce someone, just as you are now but that isn't persecution.
Disagreeing isn't denouncing. Everybody has free speech.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:13 PM
You said one thing and did the opposite.
No, I said "I'm stepping out of the debate" didn't say how long, didn't say what I was doing. You love to point out the most uneducated arguments that have no foundation and use those as a catalyst for anything you argue. Even then it's simple sentences, never a great complete thought and a rationalization on your point of view.
Here is you, not understanding words.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:15 PM
Disagreeing isn't denouncing. Everybody has free speech.
"Impeach Trump" Isn't denouncing. Got it.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:15 PM
Excuses, you can't even keep your word for a day.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:15 PM
Excuses, you can't even keep your word for a day.
You can't complete a rational thought.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:16 PM
"Impeach Trump" Isn't denouncing. Got it.
Correct. I'm doing free speech. The government isn't allowed to stop me. But mods could.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:18 PM
If only I could have 'a great complete thought and a rationalization on your point of view' like you. What is that gibberish even supposed to mean?
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:29 PM
Correct, you are. Doesn't stop you from being stupid though. That's obviously the point of a politics thread, to have a difference in opinion but to try to rationalize that.
Not something either of you do well. I think both of you try to be a SJW that also wants to be a troll but the issue becomes when you spend a long period of time here posting and I spend a couple days in a year, you've defeated yourself.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:30 PM
If only I could have 'a great complete thought and a rationalization on your point of view' like you. What is that gibberish even supposed to mean?
Means that if you do a search history of you, you never post something that is profound. It's all one sentence quips reminiscent of a troll who trolls himself over a very sad, long period of time.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:30 PM
Trump accidentally fat shames one of his own supporters at New Hampshire rally. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/16/man-trump-mocked-heavyset-his-new-hampshire-rally-appeared-be-trump-supporter/?noredirect=on)
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:32 PM
A couple days in a year? You can't even stop.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 01:35 PM
Correct, you are. Doesn't stop you from being stupid though. That's obviously the point of a politics thread, to have a difference in opinion but to try to rationalize that.
Not something either of you do well. I think both of you try to be a SJW that also wants to be a troll but the issue becomes when you spend a long period of time here posting and I spend a couple days in a year, you've defeated yourself.
Twitter et al have mods too. Same thing. I'm assuming you're a free speech dweebus.
Horza
08-16-2019, 01:38 PM
Except for those dastardly SJWs, to the camps with them.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 01:58 PM
For example, your point on Milo is a pedophile and putting someone who listens to Milo in that classification. I'm sure if you aren't a troll, you support the LQBTQ community and specifically have listened to material that is an advocate for modern day gender theory. Turns out, majority of people who wrote the research on modern day gender theory, were okay with pedophilia as well. John Money is a prime example. If I were to debate with the same rational and style you are using, you are also okay with pedophilia.
I don't.
Horza
08-16-2019, 02:05 PM
RIP Milo's career.
Horza
08-16-2019, 02:07 PM
Also its LGBTQ.
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 02:27 PM
For example, your point on Milo is a pedophile and putting someone who listens to Milo in that classification. I'm sure if you aren't a troll, you support the LQBTQ community and specifically have listened to material that is an advocate for modern day gender theory. Turns out, majority of people who wrote the research on modern day gender theory, were okay with pedophilia as well. John Money is a prime example. If I were to debate with the same rational and style you are using, you are also okay with pedophilia.
I don't.
Milo is no longer allowed to advertise on twitter.com because he got reported too much. Tech really hates paying for moderators.
BallzDeep
08-16-2019, 04:15 PM
Milo is no longer allowed to advertise on twitter.com because he got reported too much. Tech really hates paying for moderators.
That and if you watch the Rogan episode with Dorsey, he basically lets him know that their moderation filter is set to search for anything they deem "hate speech, racist, anti-LGBQT, etc" based on an algorithm. For the things that aren't an algorithm, they have moderators who are based in the terrible state of CA who make the decisions to ban. Milo does say some ridiculous shit though, I'd give them that.
Horza
08-16-2019, 04:24 PM
The guy is a pedophile, ridiculous is one way to put it.
Glacios
08-16-2019, 08:45 PM
Correct, you are. Doesn't stop you from being stupid though. That's obviously the point of a politics thread, to have a difference in opinion but to try to rationalize that.
Not something either of you do well. I think both of you try to be a SJW that also wants to be a troll but the issue becomes when you spend a long period of time here posting and I spend a couple days in a year, you've defeated yourself.
I commend your efforts but rational discussion/debate with those 2 is futile... cognitive dissonace run amok.
Glacios
08-16-2019, 08:46 PM
Letter from Senator Charles Grassley to Secretary Mnuchin 8/14/2019 re: CFIUS Uranium1 and Hunter Biden (https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019-08-14%20CEG%20to%20Treasury%20(AVIC%20CFIUS).pdf)
Dear Secretary Mnuchin:
In the past, I have raised concerns regarding the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’ (CFIUS) decision-making process, most notably with respect to its approval of the Uranium One transaction where the Obama administration ceded some U.S. uranium production capacity to the Russian government.
Today, I write to express concern about another Obama-era CFIUS-approved transaction which gave control over Henniges, an American maker of antivibration technologies with military applications, to a Chinese government-owned aviation company and China-based investment firm with established ties to the Chinese government. As with the Uranium One transaction, there is cause for concern that potential conflicts of interest could have influenced CFIUS approval of the Henniges transaction.
1. Accordingly, Congress and the public must fully understand the decision-making process that led to the Henniges approval and the extent to which CFIUS fully considered the transaction’s national security risks
2. For example, one of the companies involved in the Henniges transaction was a billion dollar private investment fund called Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). BHR was formed in November of 2013 by a merger between the Chinese-government linked firm, Bohai Capital, and a company named Rosemont Seneca Partners. Rosemont Seneca was reportedly formed in 2009 by Hunter Biden, the son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, Chris Heinz, the stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry, and others.
3. The direct involvement of Mr. Hunter Biden and Mr. Heinz in the acquisition of Henniges by the Chinese government creates a potential conflict of interest. Both are directly related to high-ranking Obama administration officials. The Department of State, then under Mr. Kerry’s leadership, is also a CFIUS member and played a direct role in the decision to approve the Henniges transaction...
Wonkie
08-16-2019, 09:09 PM
I commend your efforts but rational discussion/debate with those 2 is futile... cognitive dissonace run amok.
Good troll I really believe you're an idiot.
Ya got me
Glacios
08-16-2019, 09:41 PM
Hillary Clinton’s Emails Were Sent to Gmail Address Similar to Name of Chinese Company (https://www.theepochtimes.com/hillary-clintons-emails-were-sent-to-gmail-address-with-a-chinese-companys-name_3043380.html)
All but four of the 30,490 emails from Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized email server were forwarded to a private Google email address featuring a name similar to a Chinese company, according to documents released by a Senate committee on Aug. 15.
Kornaki
08-16-2019, 09:51 PM
It's easy to find stuff about this like
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2019/08/16/hillary-clinton-emails-cryptic-gmail
Combetta told the FBI that he forwarded all the emails to the Carter Heavy Industries address as an intermediary step in moving the files from the laptop to the server, according to the Senate report.
Glacios
08-16-2019, 10:15 PM
Good troll I really believe you're an idiot.
Ya got me
You're entitled to your ignorance.
Wonkie
08-17-2019, 12:01 AM
You're entitled to your ignorance.
Tu quoque, pizzaboy
Horza
08-17-2019, 12:40 AM
The Trump administration asked the Supreme Court to legalize firing workers for being transgender. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/trump-trans-scotus)
Glacios
08-17-2019, 01:42 AM
So you think Epstein was the only pedo? Surely, his sick behavior was completely isolated to just him right? No way that it could be connected to NXIVM or pizzagate... that'd really be going out in a limb huh?
Let me guess, you verified that it's fake on Snopes... the beacon of truth on the interwebs.
Why don't you try looking outside the MSM bubble of propoganda. Check out John Podesta's art collection (http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/11/26/sick-lets-revisit-the-podesta-penchant-for-pedophilic-cannibalistic-and-satanic-art/) and tell me he's not a pedo.
SMH, whatever helps you sleep at night man...
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 04:10 AM
This thread has gotten really bad. You guys need to go to church
F0rmsh1fter
08-17-2019, 10:03 AM
A lot of you people need to apologize to alex jones
feniin
08-17-2019, 10:09 AM
Oh man, right wing insanity is approaching capacity. You guys are still talking about imaginary scandals instead of realizing you're victims of a con-man pedophile/rapist.
F0rmsh1fter
08-17-2019, 10:18 AM
Oh man, right wing insanity is approaching capacity. You guys are still talking about imaginary scandals instead of realizing you're victims of a con-man pedophile/rapist.
clinton hasnt been president for like 2 decades bro what are you talking about?
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 10:46 AM
I’m voting for the gay dude. He’ll pound the Chinese from behind. Great success!
Wonkie
08-17-2019, 11:44 AM
So you think Epstein was the only pedo? Surely, his sick behavior was completely isolated to just him right? No way that it could be connected to NXIVM or pizzagate... that'd really be going out in a limb huh?
Let me guess, you verified that it's fake on Snopes... the beacon of truth on the interwebs.
Why don't you try looking outside the MSM bubble of propoganda. Check out John Podesta's art collection (http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/11/26/sick-lets-revisit-the-podesta-penchant-for-pedophilic-cannibalistic-and-satanic-art/) and tell me he's not a pedo.
SMH, whatever helps you sleep at night man...
Pizzagate is an obvious disinformation campaign to cover up the fact that every billionaire abuses children, which is a fact.
I will not have Italian-American Sauce-Bread disparaged in this way!
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 12:31 PM
Pizzagate is an obvious disinformation campaign to cover up the fact that every billionaire abuses children, which is a fact.
I will not have Italian-American Sauce-Bread disparaged in this way!
Oprah?
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 12:33 PM
Conquering Greenland is strategic and important. Hail TRUMP on that one. We should take it by force if necessary
Glacios
08-17-2019, 01:04 PM
Oprah?
Most definately... she sure had Harvey Winstein's back and has her own private (Epstein-esque) island off the coast of Washington.
Oprah Island (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/photos-oprah-winfreys-new-mansion-on-orcas-island-near-seattle.html)
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 01:06 PM
All billionaires are not pedophiles. Why are you guys so negative? Seek Christ
Horza
08-17-2019, 01:16 PM
Shell workers had to attend Trump speech to be paid, were ordered not to protest. (https://time.com/5654772/shell-union-trump-speech-no-pay/)
Horza
08-17-2019, 01:34 PM
The rules for Shell union workers attending Trump's speech.
Glacios
08-17-2019, 01:44 PM
You're right, not all are but I believe she is a human trafficker.
And my faith is just fine thank you. I have accepted Jesus as my savior a long time ago.
Just because something is upsetting doesn't mean it's not true.
There are bad actors on both sides of the isle and in all walks of life.
Horza
08-17-2019, 01:47 PM
aisle*
Glacios
08-17-2019, 02:00 PM
Thanks Horza (sincerely), I didn't realize the spelling is different.
Wonkie
08-17-2019, 03:05 PM
Oprah?
Sweatshops count as child abuse if the workers are underage.
Wonkie
08-17-2019, 03:17 PM
Conquering Greenland is strategic and important. Hail TRUMP on that one. We should take it by force if necessary
Tell California they have water and they'll be down.
Patriam1066
08-17-2019, 11:05 PM
Tell California they have water and they'll be down.
Californians not welcome. They’re already fucking up Texas
Horza
08-18-2019, 03:02 PM
Memo reveals a House Republican strategy on shootings: downplay white nationalism, blame left. (https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/08/16/memo-reveals-a-house-republican-strategy-on-shootings-downplay-white-nationalism-blame-left/)
But it also included this question: “Do you believe white nationalism is driving more mass shootings recently?” The suggested response is to steer the conversation away from white nationalism to an argument that implies both sides are to blame.
Patriam1066
08-18-2019, 03:35 PM
Black man just shot 6 cops
Didn’t hear anything about his race. Men of all races are the problem. No guns for males under 30
Horza
08-18-2019, 03:48 PM
Trump rages over poll numbers and coverage of his racism after approval ratings plummet. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-poll-twitter-racism-approval-rating-latest-new-york-times-a9064301.html)
Patriam1066
08-18-2019, 04:43 PM
He’s not gonna win re-election. Move to resolved
Mblake81
08-18-2019, 05:00 PM
They’re already fucking up Texas
Men are the problem. No guns for males under 30
Looks like they don't need Californians to fuck it up.
Patriam1066
08-18-2019, 06:33 PM
Blah blah blah
What’s the best 2hb for monk pre kunark pre planes
Mblake81
08-18-2019, 06:43 PM
Browning A5
feniin
08-18-2019, 06:55 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Blued_Two-Handed_Hammer probably?
feniin
08-18-2019, 06:57 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Ogre_War_Hammer if you feel like the Blued one isn't classic since the quest was broken until 2001.
Wonkie
08-18-2019, 09:43 PM
Blah blah blah
What’s the best 2hb for monk pre kunark pre planes
Only trust your fists. Get magic gloves tho.
Horza
08-19-2019, 02:19 PM
Kellyanne Conway falsely claims Antifa is short for ‘Anti-First Amendment.’ (https://www.thedailybeast.com/kellyanne-conway-trump-senior-adviser-falsely-claims-antifa-is-short-for-anti-first-amendment)
Kellyanne Conway incorrectly claimed that “antifa” is really a shortened version of “anti-First Amendment,” when in reality it is a moniker for anti-fascism protesters. Conway’s claim, made while speaking from the White House on the final hour of Fox & Friends, echoed a Saturday tweet from Fox News contributor Dan Bongino, who wrote: “Everywhere the group ANTIFA (Anti-First Amendment) goes, violence and chaos follows.”
Horza
08-19-2019, 05:44 PM
Yes, the Trump administration and Fox are distributing fake news.
Grimjaw
08-20-2019, 02:28 AM
but they are anti-first amendment based on their actions. they are using violence to shut down peaceful rallies.
Horza
08-20-2019, 02:48 AM
Antifa is short for antifascism, its not an acronym no matter how much they want it to be.
Patriam1066
08-20-2019, 11:51 AM
Only trust your fists. Get magic gloves tho.
Thanks gonna start playing again when (((green))) is launched. Doesn’t matter, got jewed into playing enchanter this time around (sucks, always play monk clr shm or was in groups). I hate how people don’t understand how good a necro can be in groups as well. I also tEaR sHiT up with my necro :)
Wonkie
08-20-2019, 01:00 PM
Epstein would still be alive if he had a gun
Horza
08-20-2019, 04:56 PM
Trump says Jewish voters who vote Democratic shows ‘great disloyalty.’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-says-jewish-voters-who-vote-democratic-shows-great-disloyalty/2019/08/20/d61e2234-54c2-43eb-9909-3895f399daa8_video.html)
Horza
08-20-2019, 04:58 PM
I mean (((Jewish))).
Patriam1066
08-21-2019, 12:03 AM
Nah their dem vote is perfectly expected for how they behave in tribe and out of tribe
Iranians are a better and more reliable people (it’s in the Bible)
Swish2
08-21-2019, 12:35 AM
Iranians are a better and more reliable people (it’s in the Bible)
gud1
Patriam1066
08-21-2019, 12:37 AM
gud1
Thanks for freeing our tanker
Boris Johnson is a puss
Swish2
08-21-2019, 12:41 AM
Thanks for freeing our tanker
Boris Johnson is a puss
The tanker with a bunch of Indians on it? Glad you enjoyed the narrative the media put out :)
Patriam1066
08-21-2019, 12:50 AM
You read RT? Do you do opioids?
Swish2
08-21-2019, 12:59 AM
Da, sure.
Horza
08-21-2019, 12:46 PM
Trump quotes conspiracy theorist calling him second coming of God. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/wayne-allyn-root-trump-retweets-conspiracy-theorist-calling-him-second-coming-of-god)
Wonkie
08-21-2019, 12:57 PM
When countries stop slaughtering each other en masse, they start focusing on frivolities like human health and happiness. The world has gotten weak.
Ripqozko
08-21-2019, 02:21 PM
God bless trump
God bless America
And God bless chick fil a
Nibblewitz
08-21-2019, 02:35 PM
In God we trust.
Horza
08-21-2019, 03:12 PM
‘I am the Chosen One,’ Trump proclaims as he defends trade war. (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/i-am-the-chosen-one-trump-proclaims-as-he-defends-china-trade-war.html)
feniin
08-21-2019, 03:32 PM
Yikes. And all the red hats are eating it up.
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 05:05 PM
Yikes. Taken out of context and the idiots believe it. The quote was "This isn’t my trade war, this is a trade war that should have taken place a long time ago, someone had to do it and I am the Chosen one."
Absolutely nothing to do with claiming he is God. Great spin though, keep it up.
Horza
08-21-2019, 05:10 PM
What context calls for referring to yourself as 'the Chosen One?’ This isn't normal behavior.
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 05:11 PM
What context calls for referring to yourself as 'the Chosen One?’ This isn't normal behavior.
Guess you should go sue Mortal Kombat then.
Horza
08-21-2019, 05:13 PM
Nice deflection.
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 05:15 PM
And plenty. People say it all the time. "I'm the right guy for the job." "You've got the right man", "There's a problem and I'm the guy to fix it", "I was chosen for this part" "I was the chosen one for that role." You deem this as bad behavior, I deem this as someone trying to tackle a problem. Whether they are doing it right, is a different conversation. If you say that about yourself, you are confident, and find yourself as the right guy for the job. That's a good thing.
Horza
08-21-2019, 05:18 PM
The right guy for the job is not the same as 'the Chosen One.’
Horza
08-21-2019, 05:19 PM
Bad behavior or delusions of grandeur?
I dont know much about american politics, but I know that the president election campaigns in america starts very very very early...like 1-2 years before the election.
I also know that the Democrats "battle" right now who their candidate for President should be (I think there are like 20+ candidates right now or something like that?)
But how does it work for the Republicans right now? Is the current President always the candidate for a 2nd term, or will there be also some kind of battle who the republican candidate for the next President election should be?
(sorry about my english. Hope you understand my question)
Horza
08-21-2019, 06:06 PM
Technically the Democratic primaries aren't until February, and Trump would have to choose not to run for re-election.
The chances of him losing the nomination are non-existent.
Horza
08-21-2019, 06:10 PM
Trump: Victims of mass shootings love me. (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-brags-that-victims-of-mass-shootings-love-him-they-love-their-president/)
Wonkie
08-21-2019, 06:51 PM
Technically the Democratic primaries aren't until February, and Trump would have to choose not to run for re-election.
The chances of him losing the nomination are non-existent.
True in practice but even with a incumbent party President they still hold a party convention to nominate a candidate. The parties aren't beholden but to themselves as to who they choose.
I'm sure it's happened. BallzDeep can you google it?
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 07:31 PM
I dont know much about american politics, but I know that the president election campaigns in america starts very very very early...like 1-2 years before the election.
I also know that the Democrats "battle" right now who their candidate for President should be (I think there are like 20+ candidates right now or something like that?)
But how does it work for the Republicans right now? Is the current President always the candidate for a 2nd term, or will there be also some kind of battle who the republican candidate for the next President election should be?
(sorry about my english. Hope you understand my question)
You are pretty spot on for the most part. Election debates and candidates start very early. The party that is typically not in power will hold more debates and have more candidates. Although, 20 is exceedingly high and due to the "identity politics" that are currently taking place in America. A battle for who can be the most progressive.
Republicans or the party that is currently in power, never go up against an in term President. Your chances for winning are unlikely and you don't want to go up against someone who is already winning.
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 07:56 PM
True in practice but even with a incumbent party President they still hold a party convention to nominate a candidate. The parties aren't beholden but to themselves as to who they choose.
I'm sure it's happened. BallzDeep can you google it?
Denounces Trump, but tries to use Trumps methods. We've got a good one here boys, you can tell his judgement would be on par for the course.\
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/455998-trump-says-media-is-part-of-vetting-his-nominees-we-save-a-lot-of
Horza
08-21-2019, 08:04 PM
Are you trying to make a point or just rambling?
Horza
08-21-2019, 08:06 PM
Donald Trump tells reporters his anti-semitic comments are all 'in your head.' (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-israel-jewish-anti-semitism-chosen-one-1455568)
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 08:14 PM
Are you trying to make a point or just rambling?
Still been waiting on a point from you in this whole thread. Since the very beginning of you posting in this thread...... A lot longer than myself and a lot more often as well. Wait, whose rambling again?
Are those articles making a point or just rambling again?
Horza
08-21-2019, 08:16 PM
The comments about being the Messiah follow the president's remarks yesterday about Jewish people which implied that they had dual loyalty to the United States and Israel. "If you want to vote Democrat you are being very disloyal to Jewish people and Israel," he said before calling the nearly 80 percent of Jewish Americans who voted for Democrats in the 2018 midterm elections "stupid."
"Let's be clear: What the president said was anti-Semitic," wrote Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt. "The charge of disloyalty or dual loyalty has been used against Jews for centuries. Almost a year after the Pittsburgh shooting, as anti-Semitism continues to rise, it's bewildering that we still need to have this conversation."
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 08:22 PM
A troll that takes this like his full time job HAHA. Since its been pretty obvious you are probably a HIGHLY HIGHLY invested copy/paste troll, I actually feel sorry for you. Good luck brother, hope you get a better life.
Wonkie
08-21-2019, 08:27 PM
Denounces Trump, but tries to use Trumps methods. We've got a good one here boys, you can tell his judgement would be on par for the course.\
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/455998-trump-says-media-is-part-of-vetting-his-nominees-we-save-a-lot-of
I wasn't aware of that!
I'll poz you with a question - should the President be acting like a forum elf?
Horza
08-21-2019, 08:35 PM
Sorry your dear leader is senile or syphilitic.
BallzDeep
08-21-2019, 08:35 PM
I wasn't aware of that!
I'll poz you with a question - should the President be acting like a forum elf?
Well, it depends. Do I want some guy pretending not to act like that and acting like that when people aren't around or do I want some guy who doesn't give a shit and is pretty forth coming about his intentions with stuff that the left constantly denounces him for.
Also I think Media has a lot to do with it. "We are a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable, especially those who may be dangerous. That’s why over the past six years deportations of criminals are up 80 percent, and that’s why we’re going to keep focusing on threats to our security" Trumps has a little more realism to it but isn't far off from this persons quote. That person being Obama.
Horza
08-21-2019, 08:40 PM
You're never going to get over the fact that we elected a black president, are you?
Jimjam
08-22-2019, 01:08 AM
Well, it depends. Do I want some guy pretending not to act like that and acting like that when people aren't around or do I want some guy who doesn't give a shit and is pretty forth coming about his intentions with stuff that the left constantly denounces him for.
Also I think Media has a lot to do with it. "We are a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable, especially those who may be dangerous. That’s why over the past six years deportations of criminals are up 80 percent, and that’s why we’re going to keep focusing on threats to our security" Trumps has a little more realism to it but isn't far off from this persons quote. That person being Obama.
I blame the employers.
Xulia
08-22-2019, 06:12 AM
Well, it depends. Do I want some guy pretending not to act like that and acting like that when people aren't around or do I want some guy who doesn't give a shit and is pretty forth coming about his intentions with stuff that the left constantly denounces him for.
No, most Republican swine just want to do anything that disrupts the Left so I think what you want is a bully. Republicans love to bully and you see that in how their constituents (ie Racists, Criminals, Terrorists) behave in public and how their elected officials behave when they think cameras are off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIAzSuSC1Y). Just look at Charlottesville for an example - Obama supporters weren't carrying swastikas and tiki torches. I didn't see a Bernie sticker on that white supremacist's car that killed Heather Heyer. I don't recall anyone ever standing up during a performance of Fiddler on the Roof and yelling "Heil Warren!" That's Republicans.
The Left wants to move forward with workable legislation like offering a public option of Healthcare, stricter background checks, etc. the Right just wants to impede ALL of that because it came from the Left. So they don't like what the Left is doing - Shut down the government. Trump says, "I won't blame you for it," - 1 week later - "This is really all the Dems fault." Then circle back "We need stricter background checks in this country! Why don't the Dems realize this?"
The Right moves forward with half-baked, knee-jerk reactionary legislation and blames the Left when it fails. That is the circle we've been in for the past 8 years thanks to Mitch McConnell and the overwhelming stupidity of the Republican party. Republicans think they're voting for the "Party of Traditional Values" but when they're in office, they only pass legislation to take more from the 99% and give it back to top 1% of this country, all while vomiting this rhetoric that if you aren't on board with it you're anti-American.
The inhuman cancerous growths composing the Republican party would all cut their own dicks off if Obama said that not cutting off your dick was a sign of being sane. Figured since you appreciate someone being forthcoming this would appeal to you.
Ennewi
08-22-2019, 07:08 AM
And plenty. People say it all the time. "I'm the right guy for the job." "You've got the right man", "There's a problem and I'm the guy to fix it", "I was chosen for this part" "I was the chosen one for that role." You deem this as bad behavior, I deem this as someone trying to tackle a problem. Whether they are doing it right, is a different conversation. If you say that about yourself, you are confident, and find yourself as the right guy for the job. That's a good thing.
This did not age well...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-second-coming-of-god-to-jews-israel-135407584.html
...would explain why he signed all those bibles in the south.
No, most Republican swine just want to do anything that disrupts the Left so I think what you want is a bully. Republicans love to bully and you see that in how their constituents (ie Racists, Criminals, Terrorists) behave in public and how their elected officials behave when they think cameras are off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIAzSuSC1Y). Just look at Charlottesville for an example - Obama supporters weren't carrying swastikas and tiki torches. I didn't see a Bernie sticker on that white supremacist's car that killed Heather Heyer. I don't recall anyone ever standing up during a performance of Fiddler on the Roof and yelling "Heil Warren!" That's Republicans.
The Left wants to move forward with workable legislation like offering a public option of Healthcare, stricter background checks, etc. the Right just wants to impede ALL of that because it came from the Left. So they don't like what the Left is doing - Shut down the government. Trump says, "I won't blame you for it," - 1 week later - "This is really all the Dems fault." Then circle back "We need stricter background checks in this country! Why don't the Dems realize this?"
The Right moves forward with half-baked, knee-jerk reactionary legislation and blames the Left when it fails. That is the circle we've been in for the past 8 years thanks to Mitch McConnell and the overwhelming stupidity of the Republican party. Republicans think they're voting for the "Party of Traditional Values" but when they're in office, they only pass legislation to take more from the 99% and give it back to top 1% of this country, all while vomiting this rhetoric that if you aren't on board with it you're anti-American.
The inhuman cancerous growths composing the Republican party would all cut their own dicks off if Obama said that not cutting off your dick was a sign of being sane. Figured since you appreciate someone being forthcoming this would appeal to you.
While all this is true, the Left is too incompetent to reliably win elections, so you won't see a resurgence until the Republican party shits its own pants like it did with Bush. Republicans are the chad boyfriend and democrats are the beta cuck, and no matter how much of a piece of shit Chad is, Lady Liberty is never going to leave him until he breaks her jaw, because he just makes her tingle so damn much.
Xulia
08-22-2019, 09:08 AM
While all this is true, the Left is too incompetent to reliably win elections, so you won't see a resurgence until the Republican party shits its own pants like it did with Bush. Republicans are the chad boyfriend and democrats are the beta cuck, and no matter how much of a piece of shit Chad is, Lady Liberty is never going to leave him until he breaks her jaw, because he just makes her tingle so damn much.
God damn that is poetry.
feniin
08-22-2019, 09:45 AM
Anyone still supporting this regime at this point is either human trash, mentally retarded, or both.
Patriam1066
08-22-2019, 10:06 AM
You're never going to get over the fact that we elected a black president, are you?
Half white and raised by his white grandparents in Hawaii, a stare with approximately zero blacks
He’s white. Hope that helps. Wesley snipes is the product of a black family
Patriam1066
08-22-2019, 10:06 AM
Demolition man is one of my favorite movies
Wonkie
08-22-2019, 11:23 AM
Well, it depends. Do I want some guy pretending not to act like that and acting like that when people aren't around or do I want some guy who doesn't give a shit and is pretty forth coming about his intentions with stuff that the left constantly denounces him for.
Also I think Media has a lot to do with it. "We are a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable, especially those who may be dangerous. That’s why over the past six years deportations of criminals are up 80 percent, and that’s why we’re going to keep focusing on threats to our security" Trumps has a little more realism to it but isn't far off from this persons quote. That person being Obama.
Trump and the media having a rapper beef is capitalism in action. They sell more ads this way.
Get money
Horza
08-22-2019, 12:21 PM
Trump talks about serving '14 more years' as president. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-2020-election-president-four-terms-14-years-a9074451.html)
BallzDeep
08-22-2019, 03:57 PM
This did not age well...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-second-coming-of-god-to-jews-israel-135407584.html
...would explain why he signed all those bibles in the south.
Aged perfectly fine. That comment was already out when I talked about this. Same thing. It is easy to take things out of context and input words like "Second coming of God." I think yours doesn't age well since it is taking something out of context and being stupid enough to put any stake in that.
BallzDeep
08-22-2019, 04:27 PM
No, most Republican swine just want to do anything that disrupts the Left so I think what you want is a bully. Republicans love to bully and you see that in how their constituents (ie Racists, Criminals, Terrorists) behave in public and how their elected officials behave when they think cameras are off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIAzSuSC1Y). Just look at Charlottesville for an example - Obama supporters weren't carrying swastikas and tiki torches. I didn't see a Bernie sticker on that white supremacist's car that killed Heather Heyer. I don't recall anyone ever standing up during a performance of Fiddler on the Roof and yelling "Heil Warren!" That's Republicans.
Wrong. When your party is actively banning people from social media, trying to limit free speech, limit the right to bear arms, removing people from social events for political points of view. You are the bully. You are not wanting to hear a point of view so vastly different from yours that you want to remove that from the conversation. Funny, you mention Charlottesville. Go look up "Antifa violence in Portland." Do you remember Tlaib during the Trump speech yelling "Have you read the constitution during his economic speech?" Your point of view is biased in almost every facet and not going to be much room for discussion here.
The Left wants to move forward with workable legislation like offering a public option of Healthcare, stricter background checks, etc. the Right just wants to impede ALL of that because it came from the Left. So they don't like what the Left is doing - Shut down the government. Trump says, "I won't blame you for it," - 1 week later - "This is really all the Dems fault." Then circle back "We need stricter background checks in this country! Why don't the Dems realize this?"
This is in part because major laws need to be dissected and verify that they have effect before drafting. There are between 500,000 to 2 mil uses of defensive firearms per year. There is an argument on either side but you are stating because you find what the Democrats have proposed as the best, fuck all other opinions and force them. Sounds like a bully.
The Right moves forward with half-baked, knee-jerk reactionary legislation and blames the Left when it fails. That is the circle we've been in for the past 8 years thanks to Mitch McConnell and the overwhelming stupidity of the Republican party. Republicans think they're voting for the "Party of Traditional Values" but when they're in office, they only pass legislation to take more from the 99% and give it back to top 1% of this country, all while vomiting this rhetoric that if you aren't on board with it you're anti-America.
There's an argument to be made here that 90% of all things that are used are created by the 10% of the population. Take music for example. 1% of all music made is in regular use. From the composers in the 1700-1800's, 1% of the music that is made is in circulation today. Of that 1% from Beethoven or any other composer from that time period, only 1% of their songs or music is used. There is no such thing as equality of outcome. This has been shown in some of the Nordic countries where people deem equality of outcome and gender equality the highest but the women in the medical industry is 90% female to male and coal mining is 90% male to female, by the natural order.
The inhuman cancerous growths composing the Republican party would all cut their own dicks off if Obama said that not cutting off your dick was a sign of being sane. Figured since you appreciate someone being forthcoming this would appeal to you.
This is your opinion and obviously very false. I appreciate the forthcoming but doesn't mean this isn't ignorant in my view.
Horza
08-22-2019, 04:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUTORC4eoGc
Wonkie
08-22-2019, 04:39 PM
equality of outcome.
let's do equality of opportunity then
100% inheritance tax
Patriam1066
08-22-2019, 04:40 PM
let's do equality of opportunity then
100% inheritance tax
No
Horza
08-22-2019, 04:42 PM
Back in March 2018, Trump gave a closed-door speech at Mar-a-Lago to Republican donors in which he said this of Chinese President Xi Jinping: "He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday."
The following month, in a rally with Republican members of Congress, Trump said this: "We're cutting record numbers of regulations -- we've cut more regulations in a year and a quarter than any administration whether it's four years, eight years, or in one case 16 years," Trump said. "Should we go back to 16 years? Should we do that? Congressman, can we do that?"
Earlier this spring during an event at the White House for Wounded Warriors, Trump was given a trophy from the group. "Well, this is really beautiful," he said. "This will find a permanent place, at least for six years, in the Oval Office. Is that okay? ... I was going to joke, 'General, and say at least for 10 or 14 years, but we would cause bedlam if I said that, so we'll say six.'"
(https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/donald-trump-term-limit/index.html)
Wonkie
08-22-2019, 04:44 PM
No
I'm not serious I'm just so tired of dorks posting that meme argument
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