******Official politics thread ******

[Horza]

don't call them nerds, antifa bigot

[Wonkie]

don't call them nerds, antifa bigot

Bully, not bigot. I'm a bully if I don't treat his troll arguments as serious.

[Horza]

Troll arguments? I'm sure he has reputable sources to support his claim that ninety percent of the population is worthless.

[Patriam1066]

Real talk is this Dino?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/12-year-old-boy-jumps-out-moving-vehicle-florida-escape-n1045306

[Patriam1066]

Why does no one group with necros? I am dope in group wirh my nec

[BallzDeep]

let's do equality of opportunity then

100% inheritance tax

Sure, what laws prohibit someone from equality of opportunity?

[Jimjam]

Why does no one group with necros? I am dope in group wirh my nec

They are -in political terms - pariahs and untouchables. You can't associate with them lest ye get associated with them.

[BallzDeep]

Troll arguments? I'm sure he has reputable sources to support his claim that ninety percent of the population is worthless.

No one said worthless, a small percentage always owns a large portion of everything. Sorry your comprehension is terrible. Not everyone sits at home all day posting articles of Trump.

[Wonkie]

Sure, what laws prohibit someone from equality of opportunity?

https://i.imgur.com/p52u0eq.gif

[Horza]

So those sources?

There's an argument to be made here that 90% of all things that are used are created by the 10% of the population. Take music for example. 1% of all music made is in regular use. From the composers in the 1700-1800's, 1% of the music that is made is in circulation today. Of that 1% from Beethoven or any other composer from that time period, only 1% of their songs or music is used.

[Wonkie]

They are -in political terms - pariahs and untouchables. You can't associate with them lest ye get associated with them.

DR?

[Horza]

Did you just make all those numbers up?

[BallzDeep]

Did you just make all those numbers up?

Not hard to find a source. Reddit - 1% of users posts all the comments. YouTube 1% of users post all the comments. Music 1% of the music is widely circulated. Wealth 1% of the population controls a vast majority of the wealth. Sports, 1% of athletes make it to the professional level. Actors, 1% of actors make it to the big screen.

[BallzDeep]

You should do some research on Price's law.

[Horza]

Sources, or did you just make those numbers up too?

[BallzDeep]

I figured you'd like this one from your basement:

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/b5p751/top_1_of_reddit_users_post_all_the_content/?st=jznc0ux7&sh=87d5f487

[BallzDeep]

On the athletes, actors, writers, music and gamers - I'll let you make a common sense decision on that one. There are 361K PUBG players, how many are pro?

Good luck with your stupid ideology or attempt to waste more time pretending to troll people from your basement. It's hard to believe someone is that committed to being stupid or trolling, either way.....I don't get it and I feel sorry for you.

[BallzDeep]

On the wealth, Bernie Sanders and every Democrat already argues that point.

[Horza]

/r/JordanPeterson

Can you not find one reputable source?

[Wonkie]

1% of lobstermen get laid

[BallzDeep]

What like CNN, MSNBC or some liberal website? Can't change someone's mind who either A. Thinks they are hilariously funny attempting to spend a good bit of time trolling politics forums on EQ (sad existence). or B. Denounces common sense and considers CNN, MSNBC, and other websites "reputable" and a website source about it's own website, isn't a source. Either way, good luck with the bias or trolling. Not much intelligence to be had with someone like you, its a sad existence either way.

[Horza]

Just give us your sources.

[BallzDeep]

"Yes, you can’t sit in your ivory tower and criticize the world. But you also should not criticize “unfairness” while you’re working hard to earn your money. We get it, life’s not easy.
And theories like Price’s law are merely ideas — not facts. They don’t hold up in every single situation. So before the pretentious idiots go out and theorize about all the limitations of Price’s theory, let’s stop and think about what we can learn.
Because understanding the underlying idea of Price’s law can make your life a lot easier.
Look at your current profession. Are you in a position to create substantial value? If the answer is no, move on to a different place where you CAN."

Good luck pretentious idiots and hope it gets better for you.

[Horza]

So many fucking excuses.

[BallzDeep]

Just give us your sources.

Sure, let's hear Bernie's point on wealth distribution?

[BallzDeep]

So many fucking excuses.

Don't be mad you have a shitty existence resorting to sitting on the internet all day thinking you are original.

[Wonkie]

Not much intelligence to be had with someone like you, its a sad existence either way.

He says while quoting r/JordanPeterson

Lol

[Horza]

Just give us your sources.

[Horza]

Is it seriously just Jordan Peterson?

[BallzDeep]

He says while quoting r/JordanPeterson

Lol

Well, I would counter with and who are you? Jordan Peterson is respected, done well, successful, helped people through psychology, built a foundation on his belief. Not hard to read a query ran on reddit of whose posted and who hasn't.

I would almost wager Horza and Wonkie are the same person. Post times are right on cue, one liners to try and trigger people but, claim liberal. Posts bait articles to grab people. Rejects anything that could have any merit. A very, very lonely person. I am naturally curious how it gets to that point lol and what really separates that from someone who is mentally ill.

[BallzDeep]

Clearly not as clever as you think you are and most likely a mild effect of dunning-kruger.

[Horza]

We are all the same person. You're not paranoid and delusional.

[Wonkie]

He's not respected among his academic peers. He has zero influence in philosophy. His only fame comes from pandering to degenerate young males.

Standard conservative grifter

[Ennewi]

Aged perfectly fine. That comment was already out when I talked about this. Same thing. It is easy to take things out of context and input words like "Second coming of God." I think yours doesn't age well since it is taking something out of context and being stupid enough to put any stake in that.

So you did all of that mental yoga after the retweet? Argue semantics and context if you want, but the fact is, words and their delivery are how dictatorships begin. Say something loud enough, often enough and people will believe it.

https://youtu.be/htbzGFXGkvI

[Horza]

For the tenth time, sources?

[feniin]

Conservatives are so easy to con. It's ridiculous.

[Wonkie]

Clearly not as clever as you think you are and most likely a mild effect of dunning-kruger.

I'm not clever enough to scam Jordy Pete

He's clever enough to scam you

[BallzDeep]

So you did all of that mental yoga after the retweet? Argue semantics and context if you want, but the fact is, words and their delivery are how dictatorships begin. Say something loud enough, often enough and people will believe it.

https://youtu.be/htbzGFXGkvI

Right so if you yell "Racist Bigot" enough times, people will believe it, even if you aren't one. Got it. Have some more of that retard sandwhich.

[Horza]

Just give us your sources already, christ.

[BallzDeep]

For the tenth time, sources?

Given it to you. Stop being lazy.

Look at the % of College Football players that get drafted to the NFL. Look at the % of streamers and those that can make a living off it, Look at music artists and what percentage are successful enough to make a living, Look at Bernie Sanders claim, Look at % of athletes that make it to the Olympics, % of gamers that are pro.

I'm not going to do the research for you, I've done it. Stop being a troll and if you are going to put this much effort into this, put some to at least have an intelligent conversation with someone.

Otherwise, let me see your sources that prove otherwise?

[Wonkie]

Listening to podcasts is not research

[BallzDeep]

Reading up on Hume, Locke, Marx, Socrates, Confucius, Bible, Koran, Might is Right are as a few examples.

[Wonkie]

Reading up on Hume, Locke, Marx, Socrates, Confucius, Bible, Koran, Might is Right are as a few examples.

Cool man I like Taytay

[BallzDeep]

Yeah, good luck with that and Horza.

[Horza]

Can you provide an actual source?

[Ennewi]

He's not respected among his academic peers. He has zero influence in philosophy. His only fame comes from pandering to degenerate young males.

Standard conservative grifter

Well, he reveres Carl Jung and speaks to that area of psychology, which does not exclude philosophy, mythology, or religious teachings. If you take issue with most anything Peterson puts forth, you won't like what Jung had to say on the matter, particularly towards the end of his life. Peterson's fame comes from YouTube, but so what? All kinds of educational content is on there, from Brandon Sanderson teaching lit college courses to Simon Schama talking about the tumultuous lives of painters throughout history.

Also, most if not all young males are degenerates by nature, whether they're conscious of it or not. Young males today just have greater and easier access to explore those tendencies than before. Dial-up internet did not allow for the best uninterrupted smut experience; if you bypassed parental controls using Napster or Kazaa, it took hours to download and the titles/descriptions often didn't match the content. Degenerate? Yes, but back then it required creative problem solving skills and patience. Undeniably good character traits.

That's been a talking point of Peterson's--how we operate based on unconscious drives and expectations within our cultures, often becoming dysfunctional through some conflict of the two, then later perhaps reaching a state of maturity beyond our parents and their parents, recognizing one family's small part in this longstanding, bleak, and largely unfair human endeavor. That isn't pandering at all. That was the shit Hubert Selby wrote about, and what Orwell wrote about in Down and Out in Paris and London.

[Wonkie]

Well, he reveres Carl Jung and speaks to that area of psychology, which does not exclude philosophy, mythology, or religious teachings. If you take issue with most anything Peterson puts forth, you won't like what Jung had to say on the matter, particularly towards the end of his life. Peterson's fame comes from YouTube, but so what? All kinds of educational content is on there, from Brandon Sanderson teaching lit college courses to Simon Schama talking about the tumultuous lives of painters throughout history.

Also, most if not all young males are degenerates by nature, whether they're conscious of it or not. Young males today just have greater and easier access to explore those tendencies than before. Dial-up internet did not allow for the best uninterrupted smut experience; if you bypassed parental controls using Napster or Kazaa, it took hours to download and the titles/descriptions often didn't match the content. Degenerate? Yes, but back then it required creative problem solving skills and patience. Undeniably good character traits.

That's been a talking point of Peterson's--how we operate based on unconscious drives and expectations within our cultures, often becoming dysfunctional through some conflict of the two, then later perhaps reaching a state of maturity beyond our parents and their parents, recognizing one family's small part in this longstanding, bleak, and largely unfair human endeavor. That isn't pandering at all. That was the shit Hubert Selby wrote about, and what Orwell wrote about in Down and Out in Paris and London.

That's substantially different than asserting a natural hierarchy of the number 1 and calling yourself enlightened. I'm worried you're just name-dropping Jung for cred but I'm not versed enough to know.

Instead I'll do this: putting lipstick on the black pill is pandering, hun.

[Ennewi]

That's substantially different than asserting a natural hierarchy of the number 1 and calling yourself enlightened. I'm worried you're just name-dropping Jung for cred but I'm not versed enough to know.

Instead I'll do this: putting lipstick on the black pill is pandering, hun.

If I were to write at length about Jung, it would be absurdly long and probably dull to most, and distract from the topic. But Jung did not go about psychology in the usual buttoned-down labcoat manner later in life. It became experimental and creative, even to the extent of documenting his own psychosis and unconscious experiences in The Red Book. The images alone are fascinating to look at. He seemed preoccupied with dreams and finding a connection between the symbolism within them and our perceptual reality.

https://youtu.be/ZVgMgMsMCww

But I just scratch the surface, only a little square of it. My postcount and join date are what my self-worth is hinged upon. Credibility is Jung's, dropping his name should do nothing to anyone else's unless they manage to offer new thoughtful commentary to his own about the human being. And to talk about Jung's views would take too long; I only referenced him here because Peterson does in lectures semi-frequently, which is relevant not to BallzDeep's argument or Incel's, but Peterson's as he has researched, written, and spoken extensively on the subject and they have not (nor have I for that matter, at least by comparison). There are of course interviews and audiobooks of Jung's on YouTube as well. Why hear it described by someone who heard it? Though that argument could be used against Peterson and his interpretations.

Am I drinking the punch, or in the case of Peterson, eating the meat? Idk. That's for others to conclude. It's terribly difficult to see oneself as one actually is, rather than other more preferable alternatives. And, in saying that, if incels have somehow rallied around Peterson, I must have missed that headline which wouldn't be surprising since I had to google black pill. But this goes back to the whole deal with culture.

Incels blame everyone else it seems, as if the supposed unfairness of their circumstances was a bad thing. Bad has brought about of a lot of good, such as Blues music. Bad is part of life. To want only what we perceive to be good is a weakness we wouldn't even admit to ourselves because that wouldn't feel good. I haven't followed what people who call themselves proud boys, antifa, or incels are angry about. The incel argument is what exactly, that nice guys never get the girl? They don't and it's because they aren't nice. No one is that nice, not really, not without conditions. Getting laid was their condition. An awareness of that part of them beforehand could have helped to prevent whatever it is they think they're going to accomplish.

If a guy doesn't hesitate to be blunt or even rude, at least the woman knows what she's dealing with. Overly nice guys are nice because that is understood to gain favor and eventually have sex. Like a politician wanting your vote and saying all the right phrases, kissing the babies, and smiling for the photo ops. Bill Clinton using his thumb to point, rather than his finger. This social media behavior has been going on since before The Brady Bunch, but always the double life gets exposed. That YouTuber who hit and spit on her dog, for example. YouTuber (abuse) / dog. Nice guy (incel) / single girl. The shadow aspect of the self. This is oversimplifying things, but it's late.

But the point is, the nice guy wasn't especially nice to girls before puberty. Puberty arrived and television said, be a gentleman. So he's hiding primal intentions to be socially acceptable, making him a danger to others if he doesn't get what he wants. Or he is so groomed that he isn't even aware of his inherent capacity for violence, which makes him a danger not only to others but also to himself. That is some of what Jung was getting at. To be made aware of that dark, instinctual and aggressive part of the mind, because it's there. It's had ages and ages to develope. Chimpanzees display it. Our ancestors wrote about having participated in it. And if it isn't examined or allowed to be explored within reason, it will manifest in groups searching for an outlet to impose that aggression out onto society, in order to have one's own mental imbalance actualized there, creating a false sense of equilibrium in the process.

[zodium]

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[zodium]

jungs a creative fiction writere with literally zero surviving contributions to the behavioral science literature op, hth

[zodium]

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[Patriam1066]

People take podcasts seriously? Seek Christ

[Patriam1066]

Joe rogan smokes another bowl. “Woah”

[Ennewi]

jungs a creative fiction writere with literally zero surviving contributions to the behavioral science literature op, hth

Incorrect. Some of Freud's assertions were actually closer to creative fiction, whereas Jung's appear more and more to be substantiated by modern research. jungs-dream-theory-and-modern-neuroscience (https://psychcentral.com/lib/jungs-dream-theory-and-modern-neuroscience-from-fallacies-to-facts/)

[Ennewi]

T
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Also, I hate you for taking my plat and never revealing how to add musical notes into a macro.

[Cecily]

Psychoanalysis got split into two camps: Freud and Jung. Jung lost, to our collective downfall.

[Horza]

Trump issues ominous warning as looming recession threatens to cost him 2020 election: 'I always find a way to win.' (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-2020-election-win-recession-warning-us-economy-a9076126.html)

Outburst comes at end of week in which U.S. president mused about staying in office for 14 years.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/ZhhBNQq.jpg

[zodium]

Also, I hate you for taking my plat and never revealing how to add musical notes into a macro.

plat may buy you a port but my secrets are for sale only for a jolly jingle my friend

[BallzDeep]

Agreed but just as Price's law can't be dismissed, Jung has merit in regards to a conductive philosophy on many different aspects. As stated before, mob mentality doesn't mean something is right or wrong and as Ennewi has stated, modern research has resembled something closer to Jung's vision. A rational person would tell you that if follow the guidelines of philosophy set out by Jung and Peterson, you will most likely not be a degenerate (life of crime).

It would also echo what Jung even saw during his time, “I am losing my faith in the possibility of a rational organization of the world,” and “as for ideals, neither the Christian Church, nor the brotherhood of man, nor international social democracy, nor the solidarity of economic interests has stood up to the acid test of reality.”

[Horza]

Tell us more about your favorite Youtubers.

[Horza]

So are you incapable of providing any actual sources to support your claims?

[Wonkie]

Agreed but just as Price's law can't be dismissed, Jung has merit in regards to a conductive philosophy on many different aspects. As stated before, mob mentality doesn't mean something is right or wrong and as Ennewi has stated, modern research has resembled something closer to Jung's vision. A rational person would tell you that if follow the guidelines of philosophy set out by Jung and Peterson, you will most likely not be a degenerate (life of crime).

It would also echo what Jung even saw during his time, “I am losing my faith in the possibility of a rational organization of the world,” and “as for ideals, neither the Christian Church, nor the brotherhood of man, nor international social democracy, nor the solidarity of economic interests has stood up to the acid test of reality.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5icDbjQ-8cM

[Cecily]

Tell us more about your favorite Youtubers.

This woman is my favorite false prophet. She’s a big role model for me, seriously.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7yPDd8_zK3A

[zodium]

what if you tube is the tower of babel

[Nibblewitz]

Three SCOTUS appointments in one term?

Sign me up!

[NegaStoat]

Three SCOTUS appointments in one term?

Sign me up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB8HOpf2lPY

Some people are happy about the situation. I might even be one of them. I was never keen on her view of 9 year old girls being of legal marriage age.

[Patriam1066]

Celebrating your political foe’s pancreatic cancer affliction. We’ve reached a new low folks. Seek Christ

[Wonkie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB8HOpf2lPY

Some people are happy about the situation. I might even be one of them. I was never keen on her view of 9 year old girls being of legal marriage age.

General Reposti

[Horza]

That's a new low even for you, Nibblewitz.

[Horza]

Trump really wanted A$AP Rocky to personally thank him, but Rocky stopped returning his texts. (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvg8qp/trump-really-wanted-adollarap-rocky-to-personally-thank-him-but-rocky-stopped-returning-his-texts)

[Wonkie]

That's a new low even for you, Nibblewitz.

the furry is making a good point that just yesterday the left was celebrating that Koch guy going to Hell so we cant really be mad if the red team celebrates rbg's health problems.

[Horza]

Oh, well that justifies his inability to feel empathy.

[Patriam1066]

Horza how obese are you? Leave your computer for a minute dude Jesus

[Horza]

That's the best you can do?

[Patriam1066]

I’m not trying to insult you. I’m praying that you’ll stop wasting your youth on this nonsense. You’ll be 70 one day and a man worse than Donald trump will be prez

[Horza]

You have 3,100 posts on this forum, what's that saying about glass houses?

[Patriam1066]

god the youth can’t take criticism these days. I’m 54 and my posts aren’t 100% “Trump had a loose stool today.”

Praying for you bud.

[Horza]

Hours after Rocky got out of jail, the White House was expecting a public thank you from the rapper, or some sort of acknowledgment that Trump had lent a hand in his release. But once Rocky was out, his manager started making excuses. He said the rapper was tired, and needed time to travel and rest. Within two days after he was freed, Rocky’s team stopped responding to text messages from Trump’s people altogether.

[Nibblewitz]

the furry is making a good point that just yesterday the left was celebrating that Koch guy going to Hell so we cant really be mad if the red team celebrates rbg's health problems.

Thanks for the bait.

Didn't say anything about the death of RBG. I'm optimistic about the prospect of a more conservative supreme court. RBG is a very conscientious individual, and will most likely retire before her faculties wane.

[Horza]

“I have no plan right now,” Trump says amid escalating Chinese trade war. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/8/25/20831958/trade-war-china-us-tariffs-white-house-donald-trump-g7)

During a working breakfast with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson at the G7 summit, which is currently taking place in Biarritz, France, Trump was asked whether he was having “any second thoughts on escalating the trade war with China.”

“Yeah, sure. Why not,” the president responded. “Might as well. Might as well.”

“I have second thoughts about everything,” Trump went on to add.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/492LReP.jpg

[zodium]

i just want to take a moment to say thank you, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, for saving europe from nazism

[zodium]

and everyone else too. thank ju

[Patriam1066]

Nice bait Putin lovers

[Jimjam]

“I have no plan right now,” Trump says amid escalating Chinese trade war. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/8/25/20831958/trade-war-china-us-tariffs-white-house-donald-trump-g7)

During a working breakfast with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson at the G7 summit, which is currently taking place in Biarritz, France, Trump was asked whether he was having “any second thoughts on escalating the trade war with China.”

“Yeah, sure. Why not,” the president responded. “Might as well. Might as well.”

“I have second thoughts about everything,” Trump went on to add.

It's nice he keeps his mind open to changes of opinion?

[Horza]

Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S. (https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html)

[Nibblewitz]

Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S. (https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html)

People have opinions about things they don't understand. Think about any elected official having opinions about welfare or socialized medicine.

[Horza]

The president of the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world is seriously considering nuking the Atlantic Ocean.

The source, who paraphrased Trump's remarks to Axios, said that the President said, "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" Asked by Axios how the briefer responded to the President's suggestion, the source said he "said something to the effect of, 'Sir, we'll look into that.'"

The President then asked how many hurricanes the U.S. may be able to stop and reiterated his suggestions, according to the source, which caused the briefer to be "knocked back on his heels."

"You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'" the source told Axios. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/politics/donald-trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes/index.html)

[Patriam1066]

Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal

Hope that helps

[Horza]

Trump suggested hosting the next G7 at one of his Florida resorts, which could violate the Constitution. (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggested-hosting-next-g7-at-his-resort-could-illegal-2019-8)

[Horza]

Not one of you is even going to try to defend his plan to nuke the Atlantic?

[Patriam1066]

Trump is dumb but you probably have the same BMI as him at a quarter his age. Get off your computer dude

[Horza]

Trump is definitely dumb.

[Nibblewitz]

Y'all gotta make it so personal.

Click bait can be quite entertaining.

[Wonkie]

Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal

Hope that helps

Russia just gets the blame for our own broken promises #ukraine

Never give up your weapons

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[Patriam1066]

Russia just gets the blame for our own broken promises #ukraine

Never give up your weapons

Russia sucks

Greenland needs to be taken ASAP

Haha!

[Horza]

The Trump administration is taking millions from FEMA to fund immigration courts and ICE jails. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/the-trump-administration-is-taking-millions-from-fema-to)

The Department of Homeland Security will transfer more than $200 million to Immigration and Customs Enforcement to pay for a massive increase in detention beds and temporary courts at the U.S. border, according to congressional and homeland security officials.

Some of those funds, $155 million, will be diverted from FEMA's disaster relief fund. The fund pays for the federal response to catastrophic events, like hurricanes or wildfires. The funding transfer comes as hurricane season ramps up and Tropical Storm Dorian takes aim at Puerto Rico this week.

[Wonkie]

The Trump administration is taking millions from FEMA to fund immigration courts and ICE jails. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/the-trump-administration-is-taking-millions-from-fema-to)

The Department of Homeland Security will transfer more than $200 million to Immigration and Customs Enforcement to pay for a massive increase in detention beds and temporary courts at the U.S. border, according to congressional and homeland security officials.

Some of those funds, $155 million, will be diverted from FEMA's disaster relief fund. The fund pays for the federal response to catastrophic events, like hurricanes or wildfires. The funding transfer comes as hurricane season ramps up and Tropical Storm Dorian takes aim at Puerto Rico this week.

Migrant care is taking away money intended to help disaster relief for citizens?

This is an own goal amigo

[Nibblewitz]

It is an emergency, and something is finally being done.

[Patriam1066]

The Trump administration is taking millions from FEMA to fund immigration courts and ICE jails. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/the-trump-administration-is-taking-millions-from-fema-to)

The Department of Homeland Security will transfer more than $200 million to Immigration and Customs Enforcement to pay for a massive increase in detention beds and temporary courts at the U.S. border, according to congressional and homeland security officials.

Some of those funds, $155 million, will be diverted from FEMA's disaster relief fund. The fund pays for the federal response to catastrophic events, like hurricanes or wildfires. The funding transfer comes as hurricane season ramps up and Tropical Storm Dorian takes aim at Puerto Rico this week.

If you cross the border illegally you should be KOS
- legion of cabilis

[Horza]

Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law building border wall. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/take-the-land-president-trump-wants-a-border-wall-he-wants-it-black-and-he-wants-it-by-election-day/2019/08/27/37b80018-c821-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html)

When aides have suggested that some orders are illegal or unworkable, Trump has suggested he would pardon the officials if they would just go ahead, aides said. He has waved off worries about contracting procedures and the use of eminent domain, saying “take the land,” according to officials who attended the meetings.

“Don’t worry, I’ll pardon you,” he has told officials in meetings about the wall. Asked for comment, a White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Trump is joking when he makes such statements about pardons.

[Wonkie]

Two men jailed for free speech (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/08/26/two-men-lied-about-being-veterans-judges-sentence-wear-signs-saying-i-am-liar/)

[Mblake81]

During weekend's G7 summit, French President Emmanuel Macron reportedly said the US didn't sign on to a charter against online hate speech. Why? Macron said "legal reasons"

"We formalized an agreement for the first time with several Anglo-Saxon and European platforms and with support from nearly all (G7) countries," Macron told reporters, according to Reuters. "We had a very good discussion with the United States, which for legal reasons was not able to formalize the agreement on this point."

The White House didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

France, the G7 summit host, originally hoped to get social media giants to sign the "Charter for an Open, Free, and Safe Internet" on Friday. Facebook, Snapchat and Google were among the platforms set to sign the charter.

https://i.imgur.com/P9c7w0n.jpg

[Horza]

Kayleigh McEnany (Trump campaign press secretary): The president has never lied to the American people. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBkRIlH-bQ)

[Domo]

Kayleigh McEnany (Trump campaign press secretary): The president has never lied to the American people. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBkRIlH-bQ)


The women talks bullshit as if her life depends on it.


I bet if you would tell her that Trumps shit smells like shit she would say its a lie because Trumps shit smells like flowers.

[Horza]

She certainly isn't being paid for her honesty.

[Jimjam]

Kayleigh McEnany (Trump campaign press secretary): The president has never lied to the American people. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBkRIlH-bQ)

That's the official lien.

[Mblake81]

The women talks bullshit as if her life depends on it.


I bet if you would tell her that Trumps shit smells like shit she would say its a lie because Trumps shit smells like flowers.

Domo.. come here. right here. have a seat. here, have a sip. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5t7wFOq1Yc)

[Domo]

Domo.. come here. right here. have a seat. here, have a sip. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5t7wFOq1Yc)

thank ya mate. May I reply with the dark side of Canada (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGzfENx7I-U)?

[Horza]

Trump's aides admit that he lied about trade talks with China this week to boost the stock market, committing securities fraud. (http://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-pardons-walls-victories/index.html)

Still, Trump flashed signs of optimism this week that the trade war could be resolved, saying he's received calls from Chinese officials saying they wanted to restart talks. Though Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin insisted there had been "communication," aides privately conceded the phone calls Trump described didn't happen they way he said they did.

Instead, two officials said Trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets, and conflated comments from China's vice premier with direct communication from the Chinese.

[Horza]

Hurricane Dorian baffles the president: “I’m not sure I’ve ever even heard of a Category 5. I knew it existed. And I’ve seen some Category 4s. You don’t even see them that much. But a Category 5 is something that, uh, I don’t know that I’ve never even heard the term, other than I know it’s there.” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/02/hurricane-dorian-illustrates-president-trumps-category-hurricane-problem/)

This isn’t the first time that Trump has expressed shock at a Category 5 storm. When Hurricane Irma struck Florida in 2017, Trump said he “never even knew a Category 5 existed.” Then when Hurricane Michael struck the Florida Panhandle last year as a Category 5 storm, Trump again said he hadn’t heard of a Category 5 storm.

[Patriam1066]

Happy Labor Day

(Doesn’t really apply to Horza)

[Tethler]

Happy Labor Day

(Doesn’t really apply to Horza)

lol

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/tODtOrw.jpg

[Horza]

Trump insists meteorologists are wrong and he is right to say Hurricane Dorian could have hit Alabama. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama-twitter-storm-winds-weather-forecast-latest-a9089901.html)

Alabama, though bordering Florida, does not have any eastern coastline, and at its closest point is still around 250 miles from the Atlantic.

[Horza]

The President of the United States altered a National Hurricane Center map with a sharpie to falsely extend the official forecast toward Alabama so he didn't have to admit he was wrong in a tweet. (https://twitter.com/wxdam/status/1169308075662151680)

It is a violation of federal law to falsify a National Weather Service forecast and pass it off as official, as President Trump did here.

[feniin]

Since when do laws apply to this president?

[Horza]

I'm just surprised he knows where Alabama is.

[Horza]

REPORTER: That map you showed us today, it looked like it almost had like a Sharpie on it.

TRUMP: I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know. (https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1169331817897443328)

[kaluppo]

Unemployment is low, median wages are up, interest rates are low, military is strong, border wall is being built, Mexico is actively helping us on their side of the border which is nothing short of a miracle.

Trump insists meteorologists are wrong and he is right to say Hurricane Dorian could have hit Alabama. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama-twitter-storm-winds-weather-forecast-latest-a9089901.html)

Alabama, though bordering Florida, does not have any eastern coastline, and at its closest point is still around 250 miles from the Atlantic.


You know life in america is good when this is the best liberals can come up with to bitch about.

TRUMP 2020!

[Horza]

He's physically incapable of admitting he was wrong and just keeps digging.

[Horza]

Why do you assume everyone who dislikes President Cheeto is a liberal?

[kaluppo]

He's physically incapable of admitting he was wrong and just keeps digging.

Welcome to the world of politicians. None of them ever admit they are wrong. They spin. It's what they do. "You can keep your doctor and keep your plan", "it was a spontaneous protest caused by a youtube video", "we choose truth over facts".

Who cares?

Under Obama I lost my health insurance, I lost my doctor, I lost my job and I lost my house.

Under Trump I have gotten a good job, had a few raises and bonuses (thanks to the corporate tax cuts mostly) and I feel good about the direction of our economy.

If he keeps producing results like that for me (and others like me) then he can say whatever he likes and he can tweet whatever he likes. Not to mention watching him give the liberal media crap is highly entertaining. "Sir you called us fake news" "I'm changing it from fake news. Very fake news!"

Even Jim Acosta had to laugh at that. I love this country

TRUMP 2020!

[Horza]

border wall is being built

(Ron Howard voiceover) It wasn't.

[kaluppo]

(Ron Howard voiceover) It wasn't.


Drone video showing border wall being built. Ron Howard LMAO!

https://nypost.com/2019/08/28/video-shows-miles-of-newly-constructed-mexico-border-wall/

[Horza]

Welcome to the world of politicians. None of them ever admit they are wrong.

No, that's not true. It's just Trump.

President Obama apologizes after people have lost their health care plans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwudZqo-Bg)

Obama apologizes for airstrike (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlGzc62zXk)

Elbowgate: Justin Trudeau apologizes for his actions in the House (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJ4zucC0xY)

Trudeau sorry for eating chocolate in vote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VssuFKfyrNM)

[feniin]

Drone video showing border wall being built. Ron Howard LMAO!

https://nypost.com/2019/08/28/video-shows-miles-of-newly-constructed-mexico-border-wall/

As of July 2019, U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed that, although they had begun to replace old fencing, no new wall had yet been built.

[Wonkie]

As of July 2019, U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed that, although they had begun to replace old fencing, no new wall had yet been built.

i wish for a republican obama who could explain that you don't really need to protect the open desert - there's no roads and we have cameras in space. they have to go ask for asylum at the border station anyway or they won't be able to do anything. so build by those.

that said, the "wall" is a waste, bush's fence was fine.

[feniin]

i wish for a republican obama who could explain that you don't really need to protect the open desert - there's no roads and we have cameras in space. they have to go ask for asylum at the border station anyway or they won't be able to do anything. so build by those.

that said, the "wall" is a waste, bush's fence was fine.

I don't think there are any Republican politicians that are intelligent enough to understand something so obvious.

[kaluppo]

No, that's not true. It's just Trump.

President Obama apologizes after people have lost their health care plans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwudZqo-Bg)

Obama apologizes for airstrike (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlGzc62zXk)

Elbowgate: Justin Trudeau apologizes for his actions in the House (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJ4zucC0xY)

Trudeau sorry for eating chocolate in vote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VssuFKfyrNM)

LOL, did you even watch the first video you linked? CNN was bashing him for how he qualified his so-called apology. And CNN loved Obama!

Not a good example. And you do know Trudeau is not one of our politicians right? If you need to look to foreign countries to try find an example then you helped prove my point.

But don't worry because according to AOC we are all going to die in 12 years anyway :D

[Horza]

I believe you said no politicians ever apologize, but Trump is just pathological.

None of them ever admit they are wrong.

[Horza]

There's more than enough to dislike about our political elites without the delusional they are all incapable of admitting a mistake (like Trump).

Hillary Clinton apologizes for 1994 crime bill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlGM4TClIjA)

Clinton apologizes for email controversy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1QppXMJ9vU)

Jeremy Corbyn apologises for Iraq War on behalf of Labour (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2nX6btVFE)

Theresa May apologizes for saying EU workers can't 'jump the queue' (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-may-migration-idUSKCN1NV26Y)

[kaluppo]

There's more than enough to dislike about our political elites without the delusional they are all incapable of admitting a mistake (like Trump).

Hillary Clinton apologizes for 1994 crime bill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlGM4TClIjA)

Clinton apologizes for email controversy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1QppXMJ9vU)

Jeremy Corbyn apologises for Iraq War on behalf of Labour (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2nX6btVFE)

Theresa May apologizes for saying EU workers can't 'jump the queue' (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-may-migration-idUSKCN1NV26Y)

Hillary didn't apologize for anything. She flip flops on positions whenever it suits her political needs. Not that it did her much good. She's still not president right?

Theresa May? Seriously?

Again, you're proving my point. US politicians all love to play the spin game. They change their positions on issues when it's politically expedient to do so in order to get votes and keep power.

They all lie and deceive when it suits their personal or political needs. To think otherwise is crazy.

[Horza]

They all admitted they were wrong, but Trump is incapable. You're grasping at straws.

[Horza]

Did you not see the two videos of Hillary apologizing or do you pretend anything that goes against your views doesn't exist?

[kaluppo]

Did you not see the two videos of Hillary apologizing?

LMAO. If your idea of an honest politician is Hillary Clinton then you are grasping at paper straws.

See what I did there? :D

There is a difference between truly apologizing and flip flopping because you have an agenda. The Clinton's are masters at that game. We all know what Bill was famous for:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinski"

I saw a video from one of Trump's rally's in 2015 where someone was wearing a T-shirt that said:

"Hillary Sucks but not like Monica"

And there was a picture of Hillary and Monica on the shirt. That was funny! The Clinton's are a joke and I just hope they finally go away for good this time.

[Horza]

I don't think she is honest, just capable of admitting a mistake (unlike Trump).

[Horza]

Trump is incapable of admitting a mistake no matter how small, its part of his narcissistic personality disorder.

[kaluppo]

I don't think she is honest, just capable of admitting a mistake (unlike Trump).

Really? Since you like youtube videos so much, here are a few for you:


Donald Trump apologizes for sexist comments about groping women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfARBsz6_Y


Donald Trump apologises to those offended by him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2WfC7qDSgs


Donald Trump apologises to PM after explosive newspaper interview | ITV News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3UoB80tOuQ

Trump apologises to Kavanaugh during White House swearing-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzSirloAziE

Donald Trump Apologises to the UK Over Anti-Muslim Tweets | Good Morning Britain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AbrEUMOqY

[Horza]

And yet he can't admit that Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a hurricane map with a sharpie.

[kaluppo]

And yet he can't admit that Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a hurricane map with a sharpie.

And again, who cares?

It's a great day in america when the economy is this good, unemployment is near a record low and the worst thing to complain about is a sharpie mark spotted on a map.

[Horza]

'Who cares' is the best argument you can manage?

[Horza]

Narcissistic personality disorder (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662)

[kaluppo]

Narcissistic personality disorder (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662)

He's the president whether you like it or not. Don't worry, It'll be Jan 20, 2025 before you know it.

But enough of crappy youtube video's about politicians. Here is a video actually worth watching:

Sunday Sauce Recipe by Chef Pat Marone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzIZ53DDQQQ

I'm telling ya, you make this sauce and those meatballs and you will forget all about who is in the white house by the 3rd bite.

It's really that good!

[Horza]

You still haven't said why he can't admit that Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a map with a sharpie.

[Wonkie]

'Who cares' is the best argument you can manage?

Number go up

[kaluppo]

You still haven't said why he can't admit that Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a map with a sharpie.

Let me get out my crystal ball........ It says who cares? :D

[Horza]

You can't even defend the man you claim to support.

[zodium]

TREMT

[kaluppo]

You can't even defend the man you claim to support.

I don't have to defend him. He has secret service agents for that job. That's what they get paid for.

I do support and defend this great economy, this low unemployment and this great country.

It's been fun going back and forth with you tonight. It made a slow night at work a lot more fun. Gotta head home and get some sleep now so if you want continue this later on tonight then I'm good with that.

Now go try them meatballs man. They're something special :D

[Domo]

I think what kaluppo is trying to say is that as long he`s making enough money he dont care about his brothers and sisters or the future of his kids and grandkids

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/1CVIZOX.gif

[Raev]

https://i.imgur.com/1CVIZOX.gif

I've been facepalming at your running gag, but this was pretty good.

I think what kaluppo is trying to say is that as long he`s making enough money he dont care about his brothers and sisters or the future of his kids and grandkids

By any reasonable metric Trump has been great for the poor. Black unemployment is an all time low for example, and the bottom quartile has seen more wage growth than any others. This bothers racists like Horza.

[BallzDeep]

I think the argument that "Trump lied about a hurricane path" and here, let me give you all this anecdotal evidence of how people I like have apologized one time before, so that makes me right is disingenuous and worse than Trump's rhetoric.

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/S0VVRbZ.png

[Horza]

let me give you all this anecdotal evidence of how people I like have apologized one time before, so that makes me right is disingenuous and worse than Trump's rhetoric.

I don't like any of the politicians I listed, they just aren't pathological narcissists like Trump.

[Horza]

White House photo shows Trump being briefed with accurate Hurricane Dorian map before it was altered to include Alabama. (https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-picture-trump-told-alabama-not-in-dorian-path-2019-9)

A White House spokesman, Hogan Gidley, later confirmed the map had been altered using a Sharpie marker pen. The president may have even broken the law if the map was found to have been deliberately altered, as knowingly publishing counterfeit weather forecasts violates federal law.

[BallzDeep]

I don't like any of the politicians I listed, they just aren't pathological narcissists like Trump.

That doesn't answer the elephant in the room that you still are using anecdotal evidence to support your bias. Pot meet kettle. Trump distorts rhetoric to justify his position, you do too.

[Horza]

kaluppo said no politician had ever admitted wrongdoing and I simply provided evidence to the contrary.

[Wonkie]

That doesn't answer the elephant in the room that you still are using anecdotal evidence to support your bias. Pot meet kettle. Trump distorts rhetoric to justify his position, you do too.

eyyyy yo check out diogenes ovah here!

[rebeccablack]

I think the argument that "Trump lied about a hurricane path" and here, let me give you all this anecdotal evidence of how people I like have apologized one time before, so that makes me right is disingenuous and worse than Trump's rhetoric.
does the fact that this president regularly makes up random bullshit really not bother you?

[Ripqozko]

God bless trump, chick fil a, and ice.

[Wonkie]

The President vandalized a picture he printed out

at least it's not obscene

[Horza]

God bless Ice-T. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI8Zx_QvNVU)

[BallzDeep]

does the fact that this president regularly makes up random bullshit really not bother you?

It depends on what we are talking about. Are there things I disagree with the President about? Sure. Am I the most gullible person for Anti-Trump propaganda like Horza or Wookie? No. Most of the things posted are opinion pieces and I can separate the two.

I typically try to use a pragmatic approach. Here is a prime example with the given situation. Was the Hurricane slated to have some diminished effects in the states surrounding FL? Yes. Did Trump make the statement when the effect of the Hurricane was unknown? Yes. Do we know for a fact if Trump himself drew the trajectory? No. Do I even give a shit if the answer was yes or no? No.

I can make anyone out to be a lying piece of shit given enough media attention. New companies make money off making someone look like a piece of shit, whether they are or aren't. Horza, especially funds these websites with hits and drives what I call insanity, the process repeating itself to look for more dirt on Trump because they enjoy the hits and profit from ad revenue. If Trump was a good guy, where would they make their money?

[Wonkie]

It depends on what we are talking about. Are there things I disagree with the President about? Sure. Am I the most gullible person for Anti-Trump propaganda like Horza or Wookie? No. Most of the things posted are opinion pieces and I can separate the two.

I typically try to use a pragmatic approach. Here is a prime example with the given situation. Was the Hurricane slated to have some diminished effects in the states surrounding FL? Yes. Did Trump make the statement when the effect of the Hurricane was unknown? Yes. Do we know for a fact if Trump himself drew the trajectory? No. Do I even give a shit if the answer was yes or no? No.

I can make anyone out to be a lying piece of shit given enough media attention. New companies make money off making someone look like a piece of shit, whether they are or aren't. Horza, especially funds these websites with hits and drives what I call insanity, the process repeating itself to look for more dirt on Trump because they enjoy the hits and profit from ad revenue. If Trump was a good guy, where would they make their money?

Dems can accomplish the same policy goals without torching our image domestically and diplomatically.

Bring me the gay guy.

[Horza]

Do we know for a fact if Trump himself drew the trajectory? No. Do I even give a shit if the answer was yes or no? No.

Who are you going to believe, Trump or your lying eyes?

[Horza]

Horza, especially funds these websites with hits and drives what I call insanity, the process repeating itself to look for more dirt on Trump because they enjoy the hits and profit from ad revenue.

George Soros pays me to aggravate idiots like you on the internet.

#ClintonBodyCount

[kaluppo]

kaluppo said no politician had ever admitted wrongdoing and I simply provided evidence to the contrary.

No you didn't. You proved they play politics. And as I recall I showed you several times where trump apologized because you said it never happened. You were clearly wrong.

I love watching all these snowflakes get all bent out of shape over Trump. Don't worry 2025 will be here before you know it!

[Wonkie]

He's physically incapable of admitting he was wrong and just keeps digging.

Welcome to the world of politicians. None of them ever admit they are wrong.

No, that's not true. It's just Trump.

President Obama apologizes after people have lost their health care plans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwudZqo-Bg)

Obama apologizes for airstrike (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlGzc62zXk)

Elbowgate: Justin Trudeau apologizes for his actions in the House (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJ4zucC0xY)

Trudeau sorry for eating chocolate in vote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VssuFKfyrNM)

Really? Since you like youtube videos so much, here are a few for you:


Donald Trump apologizes for sexist comments about groping women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfARBsz6_Y


Donald Trump apologises to those offended by him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2WfC7qDSgs


Donald Trump apologises to PM after explosive newspaper interview | ITV News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3UoB80tOuQ

Trump apologises to Kavanaugh during White House swearing-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzSirloAziE

Donald Trump Apologises to the UK Over Anti-Muslim Tweets | Good Morning Britain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AbrEUMOqY

[Horza]

I never said politicians are incapable of admitting wrongdoing, that was you (then you bizarrely started arguing against yourself).

[kaluppo]

I never said politicians are incapable of admitting wrongdoing, that was you (then you bizarrely started arguing against yourself).

You said Trump was unable to and I proved you wrong. And you tried to use Hillary Clinton as proof that politicians are honest and able to admit wrongdoing :eek:

Bad example. She was exposed by wikileaks as having said you need both a public and private position. So anything that comes out her mouth needs to be taken with a grain of salt because that is her "public" position.

[Horza]

I asked why he can't admit Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a map with a sharpie and you started arguing with yourself.

Trust me, I probably dislike Clinton even more than you do. I just don't think she's a pathological narcissist like Trump.

[kaluppo]

I asked why he can't admit Alabama is 250 miles from the Atlantic and had to doctor a map with a sharpie and you started arguing with yourself.

Trust me, I probably dislike Clinton even more than you do. I just don't think she's a pathological narcissist like Trump.

No, I was debating with you. There is a difference.

You do know that Alabama has been hit by six category 3 hurricanes in the states history? There were also a few category 4 and 5's that got close but never actually made landfall. I only mention that because the 250 mile argument is irrelevant. The state has and can be affected by Hurricanes. Just not this one.

And therein lies your real argument. You're clearly upset that he won't apologize or admit he was wrong or whatever it is you're after.

And my argument is, who cares? Will his apology in any way make your life or life style any better? I doubt it. But Trump getting China to agree to come back to the negotiation table next month just might.

You like to call him a narcissist but I'm sure you don't have a psychology degree to even be in a position to make such a claim. I know this because everyone who is all say the same thing which is it's unethical to label or diagnose someone you have not met as a patient.

He gives his entire paycheck as president to charity. He has given out 14 pardons and commuted 5 peoples sentence including the one to Alice Marie Johnson who truly deserved a second chance. He seems to not have a problem showing empathy from where I am sitting. But I am not not a doctor and don't even play one on the internet.

[Horza]

We aren't talking about the state's history, we were talking about why he had to doctor a map with a sharpie rather than admit a tiny mistake.

Here you go: Narcissistic personality disorder (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662)

[kaluppo]

We aren't talking about the state's history, we were talking about why he had to doctor a map with a sharpie rather than admit a tiny mistake.

Here you go: Narcissistic personality disorder (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662)

Lets go! I got all night.

Symptoms

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance

He's president of the United States. He's about as important as it gets for the next 5.25 years as part of his job description which makes exaggeration impossible

Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration

He has worked for everything he has. That's not entitlement when you worked to build it. Even becoming president was something he did almost completely on his own. He had only himself, Cory, Hope and an IT guy who liked to sleep by the pool because the RNC was against him

Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it

He's President of the United States. That's one hell of an achievement that only 44 others have accomplished.

Exaggerate achievements and talents

Same answer as above for achievements (PotUS). He is one hell of a talented negotiator and he showed a lot of talent for television based on how well the apprentice did in ratings

Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate

They are not fantasies when he is President and married to Malania. That's reality.

Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people

He was known for eating McDonalds with contactors back in his developing days. Not to mention he has never been one for the lets say Martha's Vinyard crowd.

Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior

Not even close. He often hands his mic over to senators, governors or people like Diamond and Silk at his rallies. And again, he will take a meeting and listen to anyone who is willing to sit down with him whether they are a celebrity on a cause or a CEO or a member of congress.

Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations

He's a negotiator. The only thing he expects is a good deal for America. Do you go to a car dealer and ask the salesman to please sell you an overpriced car? No, you negotiate a good deal that's fair to you and to them. That's what he does for us

Take advantage of others to get what they want

Considering what he wants is to make America great, I would say this is a good one to have when you are President

Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others

LOL, Alice Marie Johnson. Nuff said on that one.

Be envious of others and believe others envy them

I doubt he envies anyone. Hard to do that when you are PotUS and married to Malania

Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious

This one I can't argue. But being a billionaire and now a billionaire president kind of gives you that right. No?

Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

He eats at McDonald's, rides in the presidential limo, flies in air-force one and uses the resolute desk. None of that is actually by choice except for McDonald's and that definitely does not qualify as the best

What else you got?

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/EpS1DfX.jpg

The Case of the Sharpie-Wielding Map Alterer
(https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/arts/television/late-night-trump-hurricane-map-sharpie.html)
At the White House on Wednesday, President Trump displayed a map of Hurricane Dorian’s potential path that someone had extended to Alabama with a black pen. Mr. Trump, who’d mistakenly tweeted Sunday that the storm might hit the state, said he didn’t know who had done it, but the late-night hosts seemed fairly certain.

"I mean, don’t get me wrong — I'm impressed that Trump can locate Alabama on a map. But still, the president of the United States just changed the map with a Sharpie to make himself look right.” — TREVOR NOAH

“Because of the fact that the president misrepresented where the water would go, I’m calling this scandal ‘Water-gate.’ Trademark.” — STEPHEN COLBERT

“It must be so easy to play poker with this guy. [As Trump:] ‘Let me just see what I’ve got here. Let me see. I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t know. I do not — I do not have three queens. I do not have — I do not have three queens. Or, if anyone has a Sharpie, I do not have four queens.’” — STEPHEN COLBERT

“I mean, after this, I have to wonder if his high school report card was legit.” — SETH MEYERS

“That’s right — he’s not even trying to hide the lies anymore. Not only do we have fake news, we now have fake weather, too. I’m hoping we get fake sports, because I want to see the Mets win the World Series.” — JIMMY KIMMEL

“But he really must think we’re a bunch of idiots. I bet he thinks, ‘Hey, they elected me president — let’s see what other dumb crap they’ll go for.’” — JIMMY KIMMEL

“According to a new poll, former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by nine points in Wisconsin. And when Trump heard that, he updated the hurricane map again.” — SETH MEYERS

[Horza]

I don't doubt that you have all night.

[Wonkie]

there's nothing more patriotic than eating at Mickey D's

troops should take the note

[kaluppo]

I don't doubt that you have all night.

Not that it matters but I'm an IT guy. I have a desk in a computer room with a bunch of servers. I work four 10 hour shifts so a three day weekend every week rocks! I have a few reports I have to run and I spend about two hours processing orders for the next days workload.

That leaves maybe 7 hours of every shift where I have nothing to do but baby sit the servers and be on standby in case someone on the floor has an IT issue like thier scan gun isn't working or they can't get into their email. So I get plenty of time to kill on youtube, forums ect. It's just the nature of this job.

But you seem to have just as much time as me. You are every bit as quick to reply and every bit as unwilling to let a reply go unanswered.

We have something in common, LOL

[Horza]

“That’s right — he’s not even trying to hide the lies anymore. Not only do we have fake news, we now have fake weather, too. I’m hoping we get fake sports, because I want to see the Mets win the World Series.” — JIMMY KIMMEL

I'm not a big late night guy but that's a solid burn.

[Mblake81]

I'm sure hes losing sleep over it.

[kaluppo]

I'm not a big late night guy but that's a solid burn.

It is a solid burn.....For the METS :D

[Horza]

Yeah, its a joke about the Mets.

[Horza]

I'm sure hes losing sleep over it.

Mickey Callaway?

[Ennewi]

"Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous."
Dietrich Bonhoeffer

"We must make a clear distinction between belief and faith, because, in general practice, belief has come to mean a state of mind which is almost opposite of faith. Belief, as I use the word here, is the insistence that the truth is what one would "lief" or wish it to be. The believer will open his mind to the truth on the condition that it fits in with his preconceived ideas and wishes. Faith, on the other hand, is an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth, whatever it may turn out to be." ... "In this sense of the word, faith is the essential virtue of science, and likewise of any religion that is not self-deception."
Alan Watts

there's nothing more patriotic than eating at Mickey D's

McDonalds is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

[Horza]

Fox News on Trump:

“Why would the president of the United States do this?” Smith wondered aloud. “He decries fake news that isn’t and disseminates fake news that is. Think China pays the tariffs. The wall is going up. Historic inauguration crowds. The Russia probe was a witch hunt. You need an ID to buy cereal. Noise from windmills causes cancer. It’s endless!” (https://www.thedailybeast.com/shep-smith-torches-trump-over-dorian-map-it-was-fake-news-defined)

It's just Shep Smith but still.

[zodium]

TROMP

[kaluppo]

Fox News on Trump:



It's just Shep Smith but still.

I have no idea what Shepard Smith is doing on FOX. He needs to move over to CNN where he belongs. He'll fit in better over there.

[Horza]

He gives the network plausible deniability.

[Wonkie]

He gives the network plausible deniability.

[DMN]

He gives the network plausible deniability.

I heard he gives them aids, which works out great for the pension plans at fox corporate.

[rebeccablack]

It depends on what we are talking about.
im talking about the president making up, for example, that alabama was going to get hit with a hurricane based on nothing. there was no weather report that ever suggested this. this isnt a strategic lie or an embellishment like you would expect politicians to make, why does he do this constantly?

[Patriam1066]

im talking about the president making up, for example, that alabama was going to get hit with a hurricane based on nothing. there was no weather report that ever suggested this. this isnt a strategic lie or an embellishment like you would expect politicians to make, why does he do this constantly?

He’s dumb

[BallzDeep]

im talking about the president making up, for example, that alabama was going to get hit with a hurricane based on nothing. there was no weather report that ever suggested this. this isnt a strategic lie or an embellishment like you would expect politicians to make, why does he do this constantly?

There actually were weather reports of the storm hitting FL and the continued flooding to hit areas like AL. Original projections were the storm was going to cut across FL to the West. The storm changed paths and moved up the coast (pretty common with hurricanes) and someone thought it would be funny to take a marker and draw that since Trump wasn't privy to the news and was still holding strong on the storm hitting AL. He was wrong and was still reciting old info.

I find more of an issue with someone who cares so much about the intricacies of that situatio. Someone who thinks they've Sherlock Holme's that Trump is a liar and purposely lied about a storm for what? And then HE drew a path for what? Wouldn't make much sense. What makes sense is that the media finds this as a "Look how Justin Beiber eats a hot dog, he's so dumb" moment. Similar to a tirade on "look how dumb Trump is, he didn't know the path changed."

I think if you read news and you don't look at every article from adverse point of view and take it with a grain of salt, you end up like Horza. You will find yourself believing Trump purposely lied about the storm for an Ego trip. When he was wrong, he couldn't be and HE and ONLY HE brought a sharpie in and drew a path he thought was more acceptable. All while knowing it will be fact checked. Seems likely.

I think something many people have pointed out is that people mis-speak all the time. That is what we actually want in a President, someone who is real. Trump uses the wrong words sometimes just as Joe Biden mis-spoke and said "poor kids are just as bright as white kids." Do I think he's racist, no. Do I think he mis-spoke, yes.

[DMN]

im talking about the president making up, for example, that alabama was going to get hit with a hurricane based on nothing. there was no weather report that ever suggested this. this isnt a strategic lie or an embellishment like you would expect politicians to make, why does he do this constantly?

More like the media is constantly fixated on Trump and making a mountain out of every molehill. one of the many symptoms of TDS.

[Wonkie]

There actually were weather reports of the storm hitting FL and the continued flooding to hit areas like AL. Original projections were the storm was going to cut across FL to the West. The storm changed paths and moved up the coast (pretty common with hurricanes) and someone thought it would be funny to take a marker and draw that since Trump wasn't privy to the news and was still holding strong on the storm hitting AL. He was wrong and was still reciting old info.

I find more of an issue with someone who cares so much about the intricacies of that situatio. Someone who thinks they've Sherlock Holme's that Trump is a liar and purposely lied about a storm for what? And then HE drew a path for what? Wouldn't make much sense. What makes sense is that the media finds this as a "Look how Justin Beiber eats a hot dog, he's so dumb" moment. Similar to a tirade on "look how dumb Trump is, he didn't know the path changed."

I think if you read news and you don't look at every article from adverse point of view and take it with a grain of salt, you end up like Horza. You will find yourself believing Trump purposely lied about the storm for an Ego trip. When he was wrong, he couldn't be and HE and ONLY HE brought a sharpie in and drew a path he thought was more acceptable. All while knowing it will be fact checked. Seems likely.

I think something many people have pointed out is that people mis-speak all the time. That is what we actually want in a President, someone who is real. Trump uses the wrong words sometimes just as Joe Biden mis-spoke and said "poor kids are just as bright as white kids." Do I think he's racist, no. Do I think he mis-spoke, yes.

The cone thingy predicts landfall silly goose.

[BallzDeep]

The cone thingy predicts landfall silly goose.

You have a severe case of Dunning-Kruger. Projections change, land fall projections change, path trajectory changes. None of that is stagnant. Stop commenting on something you know nothing about and refer to as "cone thingy." If you like Yoda, you should start actually taking that advice practically.

[Mblake81]

I think something many people have pointed out is that people mis-speak all the time. That is what we actually want in a President, someone who is real. Trump uses the wrong words sometimes just as Joe Biden mis-spoke and said "poor kids are just as bright as white kids." Do I think he's racist, no. Do I think he mis-spoke, yes.

Some say they want a person like that and understand that is part of a real person. Their every action isn't gone over for the umpteenth time to make sure its perfectly polished.

What others might see is that allowing such a thing to happen will give an excuse to someone down the line to game the system claiming "im just a person". You know, some piece of shit watching this whole thing and thinks they have found an angle.

But we also have some that want a perfect person. One that never makes a public mistake, "looks Presidential" because looks do matter more than people give credit sometimes. It doesn't matter if everything has been spit polished and all soul erased. Also something to keep in mind is that if the leader makes a mistake then he is not perfect and therefore not fit to lead. If you make a mistake then you are no better than the person watching it.

It is also controversial to admit to a mistake or to apologize. Admitting can be seen as a sign of weakness to some. Saying you are sorry puts you in a weak position to be exploited by others.. "If you really are sorry then do what I want to prove it"

[Horza]

And then HE drew a path for what? Wouldn't make much sense.

What are you going to believe, Trump or your lying eyes?

[BallzDeep]

Right on queue. Well my eye's said I saw a projection that was doctored but doesn't tell me who did it. So based off your question, my eyes saw a doctored photo but didn't see who did it. Still going with my answer of - could of been someone anti-Trump, like the seal or it could be someone from Trumps campaign.

Are you going to believe your eyes or some concocted conspiracy theory you've made up?

[Horza]

White House official says Trump personally drew sharpie bubble on map. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/what-i-said-was-accurate-trump-stays-fixated-on-his-alabama-error-as-hurricane-pounds-the-carolinas/2019/09/05/32597606-cfe7-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html)

It was Trump who used a black Sharpie to mark up an official National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map, which he displayed during an Oval Office briefing on Wednesday, according to a White House official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

“No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie,” the official said of the map, which added Alabama into the hurricane’s potential pathway inside the loop of the marker.

Several White House officials argued that media coverage of the Alabama issue has been unfair to Trump, but one senior administration official said that “as long as it’s in the news, he is not going to drop it.”

[Wonkie]

You have a severe case of Dunning-Kruger. Projections change, land fall projections change, path trajectory changes. None of that is stagnant. Stop commenting on something you know nothing about and refer to as "cone thingy." If you like Yoda, you should start actually taking that advice practically.

Dunning Kruger is when the hurricane hits land then crosses more land to make landfall on land. Trump said so!

BTFO lib

[BallzDeep]

Some say they want a person like that and understand that is part of a real person. Their every action isn't gone over for the umpteenth time to make sure its perfectly polished.

What others might see is that allowing such a thing to happen will give an excuse to someone down the line to game the system claiming "im just a person". You know, some piece of shit watching this whole thing and thinks they have found an angle.

But we also have some that want a perfect person. One that never makes a public mistake, "looks Presidential" because looks do matter more than people give credit sometimes. It doesn't matter if everything has been spit polished and all soul erased. Also something to keep in mind is that if the leader makes a mistake then he is not perfect and therefore not fit to lead. If you make a mistake then you are no better than the person watching it.

It is also controversial to admit to a mistake or to apologize. Admitting can be seen as a sign of weakness to some. Saying you are sorry puts you in a weak position to be exploited by others.. "If you really are sorry then do what I want to prove it"

I agree with this and as Malcom X said, "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses."

That's the game right now and pretty much always has been - smear the opponent until people think he is unfit and un-presidential.

Unfortunately for the people who want a perfect person, that is not achievable. We are all human and all make mistakes.

[Horza]

Tim O’Brien, a Trump biographer and executive editor of Bloomberg Opinion, said the Alabama claims underscore the president’s belief that admitting error is a sign of weakness.

“He’s doubling down on the worst sides of his troubled personality — to never admit an error and to continue obsessing about it, and emphasizing it, when it doesn’t serve him well to do so,” he said. “He doesn’t move along because he is incapable of moving along.”

[DMN]

White House official says Trump personally drew sharpie bubble on map. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/what-i-said-was-accurate-trump-stays-fixated-on-his-alabama-error-as-hurricane-pounds-the-carolinas/2019/09/05/32597606-cfe7-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html)

It was Trump who used a black Sharpie to mark up an official National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map, which he displayed during an Oval Office briefing on Wednesday, according to a White House official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

“No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie,” the official said of the map, which added Alabama into the hurricane’s potential pathway inside the loop of the marker.

Several White House officials argued that media coverage of the Alabama issue has been unfair to Trump, but one senior administration official said that “as long as it’s in the news, he is not going to drop it.”

“No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie,”-- who the fuck talks like that. And who was it or is it another case of them consulting their janitorial staff and calling them sources like the every-day-another-fake-Russia-story?

[Horza]

Well you've convinced me.

[Horza]

"Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous."
Dietrich Bonhoeffer

[Wonkie]

“No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie,”-- who the fuck talks like that. And who was it or is it another case of them consulting their janitorial staff and calling them sources like the every-day-another-fake-Russia-story?

There was a story(ad) that he has a custom Sharpie, gold though. Good brand exposure, this controversy.

[DMN]

i wonder where all these climate scientists that have been wrong in virtually all of their doom and gloom predictions for the last 20 years?

Where iz muh apologeez.

[feniin]

i wonder where all these climate scientists that have been wrong in virtually all of their doom and gloom predictions for the last 20 years?

Where iz muh apologeez.

Yikes. You still don't understand basic science.

[Horza]

Climatologists and meteorologists are two types of atmospheric scientists who study weather patterns and their effects on humans and the environment. A key difference relates to time horizons. Meteorologists focus more on short-term weather conditions while climatologists are more interested in long-term climate conditions.

A key difference between meteorologists and climatologists lies in the time perspectives they bring to the study of weather and climate. Meteorologists produce forecasts that are intended to predict weather conditions over the short term, often a horizon no longer than 7 to 10 days. Climatologists, meanwhile, employ a long-term perspective, developing and analyzing models that are designed to predict changes in weather patterns in the months and years to come. A meteorologist will predict whether it will rain in the next day or two, but a climatologist will predict whether climate patterns will result in more rainfall on average in the years to come. (https://work.chron.com/climatologist-vs-meteorologist-16462.html)

[rebeccablack]

I find more of an issue with someone who cares so much about the intricacies of that situatio. Someone who thinks they've Sherlock Holme's that Trump is a liar and purposely lied about a storm for what? And then HE drew a path for what? Wouldn't make much sense.
yeah its clearly an irrational thing to do. that doesnt mean it didnt happen.

dont you think its a little bit concerning that to avoid correcting himself he went to the trouble of having someone doctor a map to match what he said? he would literally rather change the facts to match what he said than admit he said something incorrect. yes the whole thing is asinine but thats some seriously mentally ill behavior, and i find it difficult to take seriously anyone that cant just admit that its weird at the very least.

[Horza]

Why President Trump’s Sharpied weather map was likely a crime — and should be. (https://beta.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/06/why-president-trumps-sharpied-weather-map-was-likely-crime-should-be/)

In 1903, a top Weather Bureau official warned that false weather forecasts would cause both “public injury and discredit to the Weather Bureau,” which could lead Americans to ignore crucially important — even lifesaving — information. These dangers compelled Congress to pass the law making counterfeit forecasts illegal.

The new law made it possible for the Weather Bureau to target opportunists and hucksters. It also gave officials the tools to try to suppress weather-related advertising in the early days of modern consumer culture. Companies that sold weather-related products ran afoul of government weather officials when they modified official storm warnings in their advertisements or just invented forecasts to help them market their products.

[DMN]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic: you wrote that, you read that, wapo wrote that, or wapo clowns thought that. Pretty pathetic all around.

[feniin]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic: you wrote that, you read that, wapo wrote that, or wapo clowns thought that. Pretty pathetic all around.

Laws shouldn't apply to my president and my political party.

[DMN]

Laws shouldn't apply to my president and my political party.

You don't even know anything about law. You copy and paste whatever dumb shit the lefty media dumps into your empty head.

[Horza]

Jamie Pietruska wrote that, I don't work for the Washington Post.

[DMN]

Jamie Pietruska wrote that, I don't work for the Washington Post.

You wrote it here. Hur dur?

I can't wait for all these shitty weathermen getting arrested for making incorrect forecasts. maybe even find a way to prosecute the climate change loons lying for decades.

[Horza]

No, Jamie Pietruska wrote it.

[DMN]

No, Jamie Pietruska wrote it.

No, he typed it, dumb ass. wanna split some more hairs?

[Horza]

Sure, why not?

[Horza]

Jamie is a woman.

[feniin]

You don't even know anything about law. You copy and paste whatever dumb shit the lefty media dumps into your empty head.

Oh? Tell me more.:rolleyes:

[Mblake81]

its you're not your

[DMN]

Jamie is a woman.

But have you asked his preferred pronouns?

[feniin]

18 U.S. Code § 2074. False weather reports

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

It's okay for a politician to just break whichever laws he or she so chooses with impunity, right?

[DMN]

"knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit..."

As far as he knew we was telling the truth as he believed it to be.

[Mblake81]

Open and shut case boys. It was drawn there, fine all monies and status awarded for false reports about which way the water was going. I think there was no monies or status awarded and the offers were turned down. Shame such an experienced populace with knowledge of weather law took nine years to figure out the water wasn't going that way despite deep pushes for it to.

Remove from office.

[Mblake81]

"knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit..."

As far as he knew we was telling the truth as he believed it to be.

If its the way the wind was blowing at the time, I think it was.

oh yeah, that's right..

https://i.imgur.com/XdZdMg1.jpg

[Horza]

'He's losing his s---': Trump's advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behaviour. (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-aides-worried-about-mental-state-alabama-hurricane-dorian-2019-9)

The president’s advisers are particularly worried about his stubborn refusal to acknowledge that a tweet he sent over the weekend claiming that Alabama was going to be hit by Hurricane Dorian was false. They believe that his frustration is compounded by stress about the 2020 election and the economy’s recent downturn.

“People are used to the president saying things that aren’t true, but this Alabama stuff is another story,” the former official said. “This was the president sending out patently false information about a national-emergency situation as it was unfolding.”

[Mblake81]

/\ haha

[Horza]

But one person who was close to Trump’s legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements are “nothing compared to what he’s like behind closed doors. He’s like a bull seeing red. There’s just no getting through to him and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you’re basically stuck looking after a four-year-old now.”

[Mblake81]

quick.. scramble.

have someone come out as gay at a camp in SC

[feniin]

"knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit..."

As far as he knew we was telling the truth as he believed it to be.

I guess I can't expect the president to be briefed, nearly constantly, by the top experts in every field and apply a modicum of common sense to his statements.

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/JfNCnDS.jpg

I guess I can't expect the president to be briefed, nearly constantly, by the top experts in every field and apply a modicum of common sense to his statements.

He would have to give a shit first. I think he works for free. I can't blame him, I wouldn't take a dollar to run that ball when it was in play. How could the man look at himself in the mirror?

I don't think he really gives a damn but it is his office. You should run the weather law thing since you feel that strongly about it.

[DMN]

I guess I can't expect the president to be briefed, nearly constantly, by the top experts in every field and apply a modicum of common sense to his statements.

How many times you figure Obama and friends got briefed before they went out and blatantly lied about Benghazi?

[Horza]

#ClintonBodyCount #Pizzagate

[feniin]

How many times you figure Obama and friends got briefed before they went out and blatantly lied about Benghazi?

lololol benghazi. yikes.

I suppose you have a pizza restaurant basement to sell me too?

[Wonkie]

How many times you figure Obama and friends got briefed before they went out and blatantly lied about Benghazi?

the president is allowed to lie. politicians are allowed to lie. corporations too.

hell, i'm allowed to lie. that's what living in a free country is all about!

[zodium]

TRONK

[Wonkie]

Follow the money. All this Raiders drama over AB is fake news, a charade. Fact is Mark Davis is the least wealthy team owner and extremely cash poor. All this nonsense was cooked up in cahoots together as he doesn't have the money to make payroll.

Stay woke.

[Mblake81]

moving day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mm8wXuvKW4)

[Horza]

Trump goes after 'nasty' reporters, suggests they be barred from White House. (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/460356-trump-goes-after-nasty-wapost-reporters-suggests-they-be-barred-from)

President Trump lashed out at a pair of Washington Post reporters early Saturday, ratcheting up the White House's feud with the journalists over their coverage of the Trump administration.

Trump went after the Post's Philip Rucker and Ashley Parker in a tweet, calling them "two nasty lightweight reporters" and suggesting they be barred from the White House grounds.

[zodium]

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[Horza]

Trump: I would like very much to stop referring to this ridiculous story, but the LameStream Media just won’t let it alone. They always have to have the last word, even though they know they are defrauding & deceiving the public. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1170437809796255745)

[Raev]

How does it feel to be part of the LameStream media, Horza? What's your salary per post?

[Horza]

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration staff warned against contradicting Trump. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/noaa-staff-warned-in-sept-1-directive-against-contradicting-trump/2019/09/07/12a52d1a-d18f-11e9-87fa-8501a456c003_story.html)

A NOAA meteorologist who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution said the note, understood internally to be referring to Trump, came after the National Weather Service office in Birmingham contradicted Trump by tweeting Alabama would “NOT see any impacts from the hurricane.” The Birmingham office sent the tweet after receiving a flurry of phone calls from concerned residents following Trump’s message.

“This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around. One of the things we train on is to dispel inaccurate rumors and ultimately that is what was occurring — ultimately what the Alabama office did is provide a forecast with their tweet, that is what they get paid to do.”