******Official politics thread ******

[Jimjam]

Money is speech though.

But property is theft!

[Horza]

White House ordered top-secret system upgraded to prevent leaks. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/01/white-house-trump-leaks-code-015194)

The Trump White House upgraded the security of the National Security Council’s top-secret codeword system in the spring of 2018, according to two former Trump White House officials familiar with the matter, as part of an effort to ferret out and deter leaks.

The changes included a new log of who accessed specific documents in the NSC’s system—known as NICE or “NSC Intelligence Collaboration Environment”—and was designed in part to prevent leaks of records of the president’s phone calls with foreign leaders and to find out the suspected leaker if transcripts did get disclosed, one of the former officials said.

[Wonkie]

But property is theft!

True but that's not a real judicial precedent

my good bellend!

[Jimjam]

True but that's not a real judicial precedent

my good bellend!

Teppler has already asserted courts are undemocratic and paid off by foreign elite so we can dismiss judicial precedent on such political matters.

[Horza]

On his calls with Putin, most of the time Trump talked about wanting to put the relationship between the U.S. and Russia on a friendlier footing, but complained that the media and other people in the government were preventing him from doing so.

“They were certainly the type of thing that you would not want in public because they were just really embarrassing from the standpoint of just national pride,” said the official.

[Wonkie]

Teppler has already asserted courts are undemocratic and paid off by foreign elite so we can dismiss judicial precedent on such political matters.

my understanding is the english court is a new invention and not unconstitutional only because england has no constitution

We do though =(

[Horza]

everytime i meet a trump hater i ask them that and they get real quiet, its like they are too much of a bitch to support trump yet an even bigger bitch because they dont have the balls to support hillary, its like they want to be mad and fail at life


Hillary isn't running for president.

[Jimjam]

my understanding is the english court is a new invention and not unconstitutional only because england has no constitution

We do though =(

Life is about making shit up as you go along. Rules only get distorted and used in unintended ways to produce undesired circumstances.

[Teppler]

Life is about making shit up as you go along. Rules only get distorted and used in unintended ways to produce undesired circumstances.

Lots of people have had libertarian phases. No one that's a worthwhile person keeps that mindset because in reality and in practice it always gets crushed by groups that coordinate together. "Making shit up as you go along" isn't even a human thing to do. It's an animal thing. Human's have the amazing ability of foresight and to plan ahead. In fact our brains evolved and got much bigger when we started planning for harsh winters. Societies that stayed in Africa that have never had the pressure of planning ahead for harsh winters are still in mud huts.

[Jimjam]

To be honest i was more talking about the British lack of constitution allowing government to be more adaptive, but as ever you've completely blindsided me with where you took it...

Are you saying native africans have small brains because Africa has a 2 season wet/dry cycle instead of a full four season cycle?

[Jimjam]

It was drought actually, not harsh winters. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/09/980908074159.htm) Pretty close though.See! There is some knowledge hidden away at the back of Jimjam's broken mind!

Perhaps the mental decline of those living in Great Britain can be attributed to the fact the island has four wet seasons* and no drought season.

*wet and icy,
*wet and frosty,
*wet and warm,
*wet and windy.

[Wonkie]

oh good we're doing phrenology again :(

https://i.imgur.com/Ou2KFec.jpg

[Horza]

In fact our brains evolved and got much bigger when we started planning for harsh winters.

It was drought actually, not harsh winters. Pretty close though. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/09/980908074159.htm)

Societies that stayed in Africa that have never had the pressure of planning ahead for harsh winters are still in mud huts.

:confused:

[Teppler]

To be honest i was more talking about the British lack of constitution allowing government to be more adaptive, but as ever you've completely blindsided me with where you took it...

Are you saying native africans have small brains because Africa has a 2 season wet/dry cycle instead of a full four season cycle?

Modern history is a blip on the map.

Consider 2 groups of humans that have had 2 very different environmental pressures on them.

Group 1 has to deal with deadly winters every year. This group needs to plant food, find shelter, plan to be warm enough, eat protein rich diets which brains notoriously develop with.

Group 2 lives in tropical weather and has food growing around them all year. When their food runs out, they simply hike a few miles to the next round of vegetation. If another tribe is near by and has the food, they murder each other and steal. Evolution of thousands of years of that behavior ingrained in their head. You tell me where the pressure to get smarter comes from.

[Horza]

If another tribe is near by and has the food, they murder each other and steal. Evolution of thousands of years of that behavior ingrained in their head. You tell me where the pressure to get smarter comes from.

The hypothesis, offered by anthropologist Stanley Ambrose of the University of Illinois, proposes that a volcanic winter reduced populations to "levels low enough for evolutionary changes, which occur much faster in small populations, to produce rapid population differentiation," Ambrose said. If, as he believes, the eruption of Mount Toba in Sumatra caused the bottleneck, "then modern human races may have diverged abruptly, only 70,000 years ago," Ambrose wrote in the June issue of the Journal of Human Evolution.

Ambrose has linked geneticists' research to that of volcanologists Michael Rampino, Stephen Self, Greg Zielinski and colleagues, which shows the super-eruption of Toba caused a volcanic winter that lasted six years and significantly altered global climate for the next 1,000 years. Those six years of "relentless volcanic winter" led to substantial lowering of global temperatures, drought and famine, and to a global human population crash during which, if geneticists are correct, no more than 15,000 to 40,000 people survived.

[Patriam1066]

Get a job

[BallzDeep]

Just say the Jews, we all already know what you're thinking.

I find this racist and bigoted. Why do you always need to resort to Jews and Tran-sexual every time someone posts? Are you obsessed with them or something?

[Horza]

I find this racist and bigoted. Why do you always need to resort to Jews and Tran-sexual every time someone posts? Are you obsessed with them or something?

Nobody brought up transexuals until you did.

[BallzDeep]

Nobody brought up transexuals until you did.

Would you like me to go through your post history here?

[BallzDeep]

I can count how many times I've brought it up vs you if you like.

[Horza]

What is it about transexuals that makes you upset?

[BallzDeep]

"I'm sorry, which of these gentlemen are you game to beat off?"

"they are getting rammed in the ass by their government

always on the side of the big government ass ramming

increasingly squeezes their farmers"

"Just say the Jews."

"Just a normal white guy fantasizing about lynching blacks on the elf boards"

This is like 2 pages in on your posts. Either 1. You are a contradiction in calling people racist and bigot meanwhile making sexual innuendo's about gays and using it as pejorative. or 2. A bad troll.

[BallzDeep]

What is it about transexuals that makes you upset?

I ask you the same question. What is it about transsexuals that you think everyone is out to get them and it is your right to be the guy to point out anyone you believe as bigoted? Are you obsessed with them or something?

[Horza]

This is like 2 pages in on your posts. Either 1. You are a contradiction in calling people racist and bigot meanwhile making sexual innuendo's about gays and using it as pejorative. or 2. A bad troll.

Sexual innuendo is racist and bigoted now too? Damn cancel culture!

[Horza]

"they are getting rammed in the ass by their government

always on the side of the big government ass ramming

increasingly squeezes their farmers"

Teppler was the one going on about ass ramming farmers.

[Teppler]

Horza needs to play the victim or defender of the victim. The problem is, deep down he’s a piece of shit and seems unwilling to work on himself. So instead he sticks to shallow replies that try to paint the opposing party as some sort of bully.

[Horza]

Totally correct, I'm the piece of shit and not the self-professed Nazi.

[Teppler]

If you worked on yourself a little bit you would be able to articulate a point a little better than "you're a nazi". But there you are. Now go ahead and post another 5 articles about your Trump derangement because you don't have anything to say for yourself.

[Wonkie]

Stick to being a tranny, your forumquest sucks.

3 months after you joined. nice.

[Horza]

If you worked on yourself a little bit you would be able to articulate a point a little better than "you're a nazi".

[Canelek]

So you are a hillary supporter?

everytime i meet a trump hater i ask them that and they get real quiet, its like they are too much of a bitch to support trump yet an even bigger bitch because they dont have the balls to support hillary, its like they want to be mad and fail at life

Last I checked she is not a candidate, my enthusiastic pal.

In 2016, absolutely, as she beat out the better candidate, Sanders, in the Primary, therefore was the only viable candidate to support. Not great, but at least she was not Donald trump, eh?

That guy, there’s a piece of work. Do you realize that he has fleeced dimwits across the country? Hell, 3 million shy of half the votes were for him. Crazy.

It’s a damn shame that the vast majority of media outlets are so horrible to trump by quoting him thereby making him look bad. It’s obviously a conspiracy by the extra-elite against the common man trump.

Well done on teaching us all a lesson. Jesus would be proud of you.

[BallzDeep]

3 months after you joined. nice.

Does that say I'm against trannies or something? It says stop trying to be edgy and work on your emotional issues. Not hard to comprehend. Also, 3 months is quite awhile when you take in comparison Horza can't go 1 day without urging some liberal propaganda.

[BallzDeep]

And you can't go half an hour without jumping to Horza's defense regardless of the topic at hand. Social Justice warrior/hypocrite meet other social justice warrior/hypocrite.

[Horza]

State Department inspector general requests 'urgent' Ukraine briefing on Capitol Hill. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-dept-inspector-general-expected-urgent-ukraine-briefing/story?id=65991911)

The State Department’s inspector general is expected to give an "urgent" briefing to staffers from several House and Senate committees on Wednesday afternoon about documents obtained from the Office of the Legal Adviser related to the State Department and Ukraine.

The unusual nature and timing of the briefing – during a congressional recess – suggests it may be connected to a recent intelligence community whistleblower allegation which describes, in part, the State Department’s role in coordinating interactions between Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, and Ukrainian officials.

[Cecil]

You ever notice when you're hanging out with your friends and you're trying to have a conversation about how bad Hitler was some asshat always needs to say Stalin was worse? Like why can't we just have a conversation about how evil Hitler was?

Agreed. Teppler was worse.

[Horza]

The urgent request from State inspector general to brief staff tomorrow from several House and Senate committees came roughly an hour after Mike Pompeo pushed back against House Dems’ subpoena. The email was cryptic, per sources, but has to do with Ukraine. (https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1179158748134289409)

[Cecil]

jesus a few hours and like 5 pages, i would read it but its all bitches posting about nothing

also sicko post right above me LOL

You should keep your trolling in RnF. You can get banned for trolling outside of there. And I want you to know that I forgive you.

[Wonkie]

Agreed. Teppler was worse.

I'm p sure that's a norm MacDonald bit

[Wonkie]

And you can't go half an hour without jumping to Horza's defense regardless of the topic at hand. Social Justice warrior/hypocrite meet other social justice warrior/hypocrite.

Are liberals sjws now?

Seek friedman

[Canelek]

jesus a few hours and like 5 pages, i would read it but its all bitches posting about nothing

also sicko post right above me LOL

What is frustrated, angry, bigoted posts by a determined, yet incapable manchild that end with "LOL"?

Let's continue on with 'stupid shit conservative martians say' for $300.

[Horza]

Pompeo’s office in recent days asked State Department HR/IG if they could “discipline” officers for “failure to follow direction” if they cooperate with Congress. (https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1179156540835500032)

[Teppler]

Very good Wonkie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AL5NGY7AjI

[BallzDeep]

Are liberals sjws now?

Seek friedman

Does this fit Horza and you?

"The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and engaging in disingenuous arguments."

I'd check yes.

[Wonkie]

Does this fit Horza and you?

"The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and engaging in disingenuous arguments."

I'd check yes.

Your little adventure with Bush in the desert got a Marxist Kenyan elected in just 7 years after 9/11

Conservativism has failed.

[BallzDeep]

Your little adventure with Bush in the desert got a Marxist Kenyan elected in just 7 years after 9/11

Conservativism has failed.

Your SJW is showing.

[Wonkie]

Your SJW is showing.

:eek:

[Patriam1066]

Obama was dark mitt Romney. Hardly a Marxist poke you NL

[Horza]

Trump says the impeachment inquiry is a coup, two days after calling for civil war. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179179573541511176)

[Teppler]

I wonder if we'll ever really know all the real story of Obama's background.

[Wonkie]

Obama was dark mitt Romney. Hardly a Marxist poke you NL

melanin Mitt Romney has a better ring to it

[Canelek]

*shrug* from Hawaii. No longer president. He was a very good president while in office.

What does Obama have to do with the current, really bad president, aside from the occasional eyeroll at what a joke the White House has become?

Oh yeah, Kenya, Muslim, hillaryemails, etc. Jesus-pete you guys must be a hoot at Klan parties.

[BallzDeep]

*shrug* from Hawaii. No longer president. He was a very good president while in office.

What does Obama have to do with the current, really bad president, aside from the occasional eyeroll at what a joke the White House has become?

Oh yeah, Kenya, Muslim, hillaryemails, etc. Jesus-pete you guys must be a hoot at Klan parties.

Well considering Wonkie is the one that brought up Kenyan, that would be your own political affiliation. I think the point has been made that the talks about Trannies, Jews, Kenyans or any other race or religion seems to be brought up far more often from the social justice warriors then people on the right.

See Cecily, Horza for examples.

[BallzDeep]

This would also be the same people here who are slamming liberal material down your throat because they want to convince you to "their side".

It fits the description of SJW to the T. Someone who wants to cram their opinion down your throat whether it is force feeding articles everyday or calling people immoral, they don't want you to make up your mind. They need to feel validated by the crowd.

[Wonkie]

Well considering Wonkie is the one that brought up Kenyan, that would be your own political affiliation. I think the point has been made that the talks about Trannies, Jews, Kenyans or any other race or religion seems to be brought up far more often from the social justice warriors then people on the right.

See Cecily, Horza for examples.

SJW is a silly inclusion but you're spot on that the Hillary 08 campaign created the birther meme

[Patriam1066]

melanin Mitt Romney has a better ring to it

Mulatto Mitt?

[Patriam1066]

*shrug* from Hawaii. No longer president. He was a very good president while in office.

What does Obama have to do with the current, really bad president, aside from the occasional eyeroll at what a joke the White House has become?

Oh yeah, Kenya, Muslim, hillaryemails, etc. Jesus-pete you guys must be a hoot at Klan parties.

Obama was a solid republican president. Trade deals, deportations, drone strikes

God bless America. He was a throw back to Bush senior

[Canelek]

Obama was a solid republican president. Trade deals, deportations, drone strikes

God bless America. He was a throw back to Bush senior

He’d be up there. May be close to mark with HW. Moderates keep things working.

Shit ain’t working now. Except for all the crazy shit.

[Teppler]

What does republican and democrat even mean anymore? Republican used to be tied to the idea of conserving.

Nobody has conserved immigration in a very long time. Trump has brought it back into the conversation. Obama's deportations were catch and release at the border aka padded #s.

Foreign war is an establishment position that spans right and left.

Social justice and spending issues are two places where they split. Republicans have been completely and utterly ineffective at both. There's slightly less spending under republicans but over the long haul the deficit and debt are just an ever growing balloon. Republicans have conserved no social issues over the past 30 years.

Can anyone name some things republicans have conserved over the past 30 years? What does it really mean to be a republican?

[Patriam1066]

It means I have multiple bank accounts and multiple homes

[Teppler]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/bernie-sanders-house-home-photos/

Bernie Sanders Has Three Houses: See Photos of the Latest

Pretty good for never have worked a job in his life besides politician.

[Canelek]

Trump supporter talking shit about a wealthy lad. You do realize your boy and his children have never worked in their lives, right?

[Canelek]

Ah! And here is Kenya reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW3xkHxIEQ (Obama guest on that two ferns show).

[Wonkie]

catch and release

Can anyone name some things republicans have conserved over the past 30 years? What does it really mean to be a republican?

1. I have the impression c&r is an internationally agreed on rule for processing refugees. It may be being abused, I don't know, like Jimjam said rules always have unforseen consequences.

2. Conservatism is about retarding change not stopping it completely.

[Teppler]

Wonkie wtf lol.

You think people that consider themselves conservative see the changes happening and think “well I just wish this would happen a little slower”?

[Domo]

Conservatism is about "party before country"

[Horza]

You think people that consider themselves conservative see the changes happening and think “well I just wish this would happen a little slower”?

Conservatism has traditionally rested on an organic conception of society—that is, on the belief that society is not merely a loose collection of individuals but a living organism comprising closely connected, interdependent members. Conservatives thus favour institutions and practices that have evolved gradually and are manifestations of continuity and stability. (https://www.britannica.com/topic/conservatism)

[Horza]

Also the people that consider themselves conservative aren't actually conservatives, they're mostly authoritarian nationalists.

[feniin]

Conservatives want to prevent progress in every aspect. Usually by authoritarianism.

[Horza]

Conservatives haven't had any real influence since LBJ beat Barry Goldwater.

[Patriam1066]

we have two right of center parties. What world you in Horza? Turn off the hentai

[Domo]

sometimes i think hardcore conservatives act stupid or come up with dumb ideas just to get some attention and feel special about it. You know, just to be diffrent than the "mainstream".

[Horza]

we have two right of center parties. What world you in Horza? Turn off the hentai

Republicans have long since become authoritarian nationalists, conservatives care about preserving social norms and traditions.

[Horza]

And most Democrats are center right liberals, not conservatives.

[Canelek]

Looking forward to white nationalists to go back under the rocks. You can have tiki torches, Morrissey, ted nugent, plastic fetuses, piggly wiggly, Mississippi, Alabama, panhandles (FL and OK!), Chevy commercials, christianity; and even all WWII nazi memorabilia.

Just fuck off. We are tired of your bullshit.

[Teppler]

The 2 party system is a sham. Current republicans exist to be losers to democrats. To be the bought puppets that say "we tried but we failed". Liberals eventually pass everything which is a failure of conservative leaders to the people conservative leaders represent. Who do conservatives represent? Largely native, responsible types. The rabbit hole is deep. If current republicans exist to be bought losers to the native, responsible types in the country who is doing the buying? Go deeper.

If you doubt me, name some battles republicans have won vs democrats over the last 30 years. Socially, spending, law, education, immigration, etc... everything.

[Horza]

Who do conservatives represent? Largely native, responsible types. The rabbit hole is deep. If current republicans exist to be bought losers to the native, responsible types in the country who is doing the buying? Go deeper.

[Jimjam]

I just want to backtrack, and say Teppler made some wonderful farmyard word play yesterday, using the animals 'ram' and 'ass' to describe how the Netherlands government was persecuting its own livestock farmers.

I'm still s******ing at the chosen method of protest ��.

[Patriam1066]

Looking forward to white nationalists to go back under the rocks. You can have tiki torches, Morrissey, ted nugent, plastic fetuses, piggly wiggly, Mississippi, Alabama, panhandles (FL and OK!), Chevy commercials, christianity; and even all WWII nazi memorabilia.

Just fuck off. We are tired of your bullshit.

I’m tired of all people with sub 120 IQs. Exception: Hispanic women

Rednecks, in general, have less mouth breathing children than the melanic-welfare class though, so if the race war ever occurs I’ll be co-opting an Armenian identity to lead the Aryans, like Heraclius, against the barbarian horde

[Horza]

Trump administration officials agree to testify about Ukraine call. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-ukraine-investigation-testify-call-a9128826.html)

Two members of the Trump administration have agreed to testify to Congress’ impeachment investigations into the president’s allegedly inappropriate outreach to the leader of Ukraine – apparently rejecting Mike Pompeo’s demand that they not cooperate.

Marie Yovanovitch, the former US ambassador to Ukraine, who was brought back to Washington several months early, will provide a deposition on 11 October. Meanwhile, Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine who resigned from his position last Friday, will appear before the intelligence committee of the House of Representatives on Thursday, committee sources told the US media.

[Domo]

Facebook removes pro-Trump "Police Lives Matter" pages that were run from Kosovo (https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-popular-information-kosovo-police-lives-matter-1462297)

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/eGA4EeV.gif

[Teppler]

Republicans have long since become authoritarian nationalists, conservatives care about preserving social norms and traditions.

“Authoritarian”. Why does Trump have such a hard time getting through things the public voted him in on? Where’s the wall that was his #1 issue? If republicans are authoritarians then they are the lamest and most fucking ineffective authoritarians I’ve ever seen. Back to the drawing board horza, try again.

[zodium]

trpUM

[Jimjam]

The promises made by politicians are symbols of their ideology, not pragmatic plans for action.

Politicians are figureheads that argue rhetoric while civil servants actually implement workable solutions loosely based around the framework provided by the flavour of the month demagogues.

[Teppler]

The promises made by politicians are symbols of their ideology, not pragmatic plans for action.

Politicians are figureheads that argue rhetoric while civil servants actually implement workable solutions loosely based around the framework provided by the flavour of the month demagogues.

Define for me what a promise is.

[Domo]

Trump shouted 'you're making me look like a f******' idiot' at White House staff (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-border-wall-us-mexico-mike-pompeo-white-house-moat-kirstjen-nielsen-a9128991.html?)

[wildstar]

I don't see the reasoning behind why some people are calling Trump an authoritarian. No one is forced to be a subordinate to the state neither are we being treated as subjects. Trump is behaving as a populist for his base.

Things i'd like to see for an authoritarian Trump are as follows. Gun bans, limiting free speech, and push for more dependence on the state for starters.

So far from what I have seen he has baited Democrats in office about limiting gun anything and they rub their hands together happily on more than one occasion. Like the red flag laws. Honestly some people downright want all guns removed on the left.

In new york they recently passed a law that you cant call people illegal alien or be fined with 250k. Trump did good here on his authoritarianism agenda. Oh wait, democrats passed this.

Honestly Trumps constant job growth, being at a 52 year low for unemployment is the biggest indicator of his authoritarianism.

[Wonkie]

I don't see the reasoning behind why some people are calling Trump an authoritarian. No one is forced to be a subordinate to the state neither are we being treated as subjects. Trump is behaving as a populist for his base.

Things i'd like to see for an authoritarian Trump are as follows. Gun bans, limiting free speech, and push for more dependence on the state for starters.

So far from what I have seen he has baited Democrats in office about limiting gun anything and they rub their hands together happily on more than one occasion. Like the red flag laws. Honestly some people downright want all guns removed on the left.

In new york they recently passed a law that you cant call people illegal alien or be fined with 250k. Trump did good here on his authoritarianism agenda. Oh wait, democrats passed this.

Honestly Trumps constant job growth, being at a 52 year low for unemployment is the biggest indicator of his authoritarianism.

Yeah there's not much there. The only thing I can think of is he threatened a civil war if he gets impeached. No big deal.

[Teppler]

I don't see the reasoning behind why some people are calling Trump an authoritarian. No one is forced to be a subordinate to the state neither are we being treated as subjects. Trump is behaving as a populist for his base.

Things i'd like to see for an authoritarian Trump are as follows. Gun bans, limiting free speech, and push for more dependence on the state for starters.

So far from what I have seen he has baited Democrats in office about limiting gun anything and they rub their hands together happily on more than one occasion. Like the red flag laws. Honestly some people downright want all guns removed on the left.

In new york they recently passed a law that you cant call people illegal alien or be fined with 250k. Trump did good here on his authoritarianism agenda. Oh wait, democrats passed this.

Honestly Trumps constant job growth, being at a 52 year low for unemployment is the biggest indicator of his authoritarianism.


Remember how I pointed out the Left / Right line has been shifted far left over the last 30 years?

All the screeching about Trump, moves to push it even further left. Just look at immigration alone. The left wing screechers have effectively pushed the idea of any sort of border security and accountability at the border as being anti humanitarian and something that must be stopped. It's happened with immigration but it's happened everywhere else as well. Every social issue. Spending issues. The screeching and harassment serves to shift the line further left and it's an inevitable crawl as they own media, politicians, school etc....

It's all a slow burn tactic and it doesn't matter if they get one of their direct guys in like a Biden or Obama or they get a Trump in who placates the common people with small victories but still inevitably loses anything he tried to do.

[Wonkie]

Remember how I pointed out the Left / Right line has been shifted far left over the last 30 years?



what, was it supposed to keep going right after Reagan broke the back of Labor? :p

What do you call a progressive but for Right-wing ideas?

[Teppler]

what, was it supposed to keep going right after Reagan broke the back of Labor? :p

What do you call a progressive but for Right-wing ideas?

Reagan committed one of the biggest crimes ever against the US by opening borders. Establishment politicians left and right often fight for the same things. Both establishment left and right work to open the border which hurts every single natural citizen but is great for corporate profits and real estate and banks where these people need loans and financing.

How did he sell this to his base? He said the mexican illegal immigrants were largely natural republicans. That they were God fearing, hard working, conservative people. Oops, turns out they vote almost 100% democrat, for welfare and to turn this country in the one they just fled.

Reagan sold his base out and demographic change is a ticking biological time bomb that gets worse over time when you look at which demographics are contributing vs drawing from the tax pool.

[Wonkie]

Reagan committed one of the biggest crimes ever against the US by opening borders. Establishment politicians left and right often fight for the same things. Both establishment left and right work to open the border which hurts every single natural citizen but is great for corporate profits and real estate and banks where these people need loans and financing.

How did he sell this to his base? He said the mexican illegal immigrants were largely natural republicans. That they were God fearing, hard working, conservative people. Oops, turns out they vote almost 100% democrat, for welfare and to turn this country in the one they just fled.

Reagan sold his base out and demographic change is a ticking biological time bomb that gets worse over time when you look at which demographics are contributing vs drawing from the tax pool.

Which is more likely: Reagan was a secret Marxist or you are a buffoon?

[Teppler]

Which is more likely: Reagan was a secret Marxist or you are a buffoon?

Alright if I'm a buffoon, name one thing I said incorrectly in that post.

Did Reagan not open the border? Did Reagan not sell his base on the illegals being natural god fear republicans? Was he not completely and utterly wrong?

[feniin]

"the illegals" is some really trashy language. Christ. Do you not have an ounce of compassion for another human? What makes someone born south of The Rio Grande different than some meth addled racist in West Virginia?

[Jimjam]

Well, if illegals are natural republicans he made a huge mistake opening the border; this allowed legals in who clearly must have been demos!

[Ripqozko]

Get rid of illegals
God bless ice
Build the wall
Trump 2020

[Teppler]

"the illegals" is some really trashy language. Christ. Do you not have an ounce of compassion for another human? What makes someone born south of The Rio Grande different than some meth addled racist in West Virginia?

You’re mixing up duty, responsibility and justice.

America has a responsibility to our lower class before the rest of the worlds lower class. We have plenty of people in our country currently who need help. Is it right to help foreigners who belong to another government while our current people struggle? Do you have any idea what it does to wages and job availability for our lowest class when you have a never ending influx of foreign low class people that will work under the minimum wage and also abuse our infrastructure.

Anything america gives foreigners should be charity at our own discretion. What kind arrogance would you have to have to waltz into someone else’s property and start demanding things like welfare and rights. But honestly I would do it too. All of them are getting away with it. We have enough foreign elites sponsoring open borders that no one ever gets punished except natural born Americans who feel the consequences. You show your racism as you try to paint the victim of these crimes as simply “meth addled racists” that deserve it I guess? But what did they do wrong besides be born in the wrong place that they deserve your ire?

There’s a simple way to show how people like you are full of shit on the matter. If you don’t believe in borders and wall, open up your home to every bum in your neighborhood. You’ll quickly learn the value of borders and walls.

[Wonkie]

Alright if I'm a buffoon, name one thing I said incorrectly in that post.

Did Reagan not open the border? Did Reagan not sell his base on the illegals being natural god fear republicans? Was he not completely and utterly wrong?

https://i.imgur.com/T60pSdb.jpg

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/W5xwdxw.jpg

had to do a small edit to your picture

[Horza]

demographic change is a ticking biological time bomb

[feniin]

ITT: Teppler doesn't understand the difference between the right to personal property and the right to live within the borders of a country without being treated as sub-human. Would guess that "illegals" pay more of their income in taxes to the US Government than Trump has in the last decade.

[Ripqozko]

Get rid of illegals
Pras trump

[BallzDeep]

Yeah there's not much there. The only thing I can think of is he threatened a civil war if he gets impeached. No big deal.

you really love to make up fake posts to justify your position. Stop being a social justice warrior. Trump never threatened anything. Look up what the definition of threat is. Look up what he posted. He posted a quote. You are literally so gullible.

[BallzDeep]

The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and engaging in disingenuous arguments

Meet social justice warrior AGAIN.

Lastly, you obviously don't understand context and literally turn everything to a disingenuous argument that suits your needs. The quote was "civil-war like fracture." Not very hard to comprehend. Must be hard for you though.

[Horza]

Trump never threatened anything. Look up what the definition of threat is. Look up what he posted. He posted a quote.

A quote that said if the Democrats are successful in removing the president from office it will cause a civil war.

[Horza]

Bernie Sanders cancels upcoming events after undergoing heart surgery. (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/02/bernie-sanders-undergoes-surgery-for-artery-blockage-cancels-events-until-further-notice.html)

Bernie Sanders cancels presidential events after the 78-year-old senator suffered chest pain and doctors inserted two stents for artery blockage.

“Sen. Sanders is conversing and in good spirits. He will be resting up over the next few days,” his campaign advisor Jeff Weaver said. “We are canceling his events and appearances until further notice, and we will continue to provide appropriate updates.”

[Domo]

some people just want to be "special".
I belive that if the whole world would be behind Trump people like Teppler would be against Trump, just to be diffrent than the majority.

[Teppler]

Each illegal immigrant that comes into the US has the cost on average of many many many thousands of dollars over their life time. This cost falls on the middle class tax payer. The upper class largely doesn't pay taxes with their tax loop holes. So with all the other trouble illegals bring in(lower wages, less jobs for natural citizens, social problems), the big fuck you on top of it all is the middle class is sponsoring it all through their taxes.

[Horza]

The quote was "civil-war like fracture."

Do you know what a civil-war like fracture looks like to me? A civil war.

[feniin]

Each illegal immigrant that comes into the US has the cost on average of many many many thousands of dollars over their life time. This cost falls on the middle class tax payer. The upper class largely doesn't pay taxes with their tax loop holes. So with all the other trouble illegals bring in(lower wages, less jobs for natural citizens, social problems), the big fuck you on top of it all is the middle class is sponsoring it all through their taxes.

You're not middle class, though. You're a working class nerd playing a 20 year old elf sim.

[BallzDeep]

some people just want to be "special".
I belive that if the whole world would be behind Trump people like Teppler would be against Trump, just to be diffrent than the majority.

And I'd counter that with that you'd probably be for Trump to feel the warmth of the crowd.

[BallzDeep]

You're not middle class, though. You're a working class nerd playing a 20 year old elf sim.

Typical - another leftie assuming political status, social status and what you probably look like too. Never met so many people who were that good at those indicators through online conversation.

Identity politics are a thing but you come off as an ass and a hypocrite if you start talking like Donald Trump (most of you do).

[Domo]

And I'd counter that with that you'd probably be for Trump to feel the warmth of the crowd.

nah man,

I mean, maybe I would vote for Trump if I would be an american, you know, just to get some fresh air into the politics (and because Hillary looks very boring), but I would call for an impeachment the moment he started to vist his own hotels and make taxpayers pay for it (nepotism).

Overall I always vote for the party who have the best education programm, because I belive that you can slove a lot of problems in the long run with education (like teen pregnancy, gun violation, hate crimes, making depts, environmental Protection, etc. etc.)

[BallzDeep]

Do you know what a civil-war like fracture looks like to me? A civil war.

Well that's why that's called an opinion. You don't seem to understand those too well but there are millions of them. You can't even quote the source correctly and misconstrue quotes to prove your point. Then you want to blame Donald Trump for being a shit human being when that normally starts with looking in.

I think if we did a poll most people would take a Trump over someone that obviously dwells on the internet, somewhat read these articles, then takes the time to repost and repeats the process every day, multiple times a day.

Easy to point out other people's inefficiencies, hard to look at your own.

[BallzDeep]

nah man,

I mean, maybe I would vote for Trump if I would be an american, you know, just to get some fresh air into the politics (and because Hillary looks very boring), but I would call for an impeachment the moment he started to vist his own hotels and make taxpayers pay for it (nepotism).

Overall I always vote for the party who have the best education programm, because I belive that you can slove a lot of problems in the long run with education (like teen pregnancy, gun violation, hate crimes, making depts, environmental Protection, etc. etc.)

Education is good but a lot of issues there in itself. It's hard to tell what peoples actual education policies are because they hardly get implemented. I'm all for the school voucher system and think that would substantially increase education.

[BallzDeep]

Now I'll use Horza's adolescent method of posting - Horza, I see you are deleting posts. Why?

[Horza]

I made a joke about Trump's mafia-style threats but by then you already replied and edited three of your posts.

[Horza]

RIP Peanut5

[Wonkie]

RIP Peanut5

https://i.imgur.com/RoDt9nq.jpg

bring back Dino

[BallzDeep]

I made a joke about Trump's mafia-style threats but by then you already replied and edited three of your posts.

Except some of those posts weren't even talking about you. I think edit is far better than deleting. Edit says I made an error. Deleting says "I'm a dumbass, maybe I shouldn't say this."

[Wonkie]

you really love to make up fake posts to justify your position. Stop being a social justice warrior. Trump never threatened anything. Look up what the definition of threat is. Look up what he posted. He posted a quote. You are literally so gullible.

Sorry but I only do that to people I don't respect.

[BallzDeep]

Sorry but I only do that to people I don't respect.

And so you do that to anyone who disagrees with you. Got it. Not open to criticism.

[Wonkie]

And so you do that to anyone who disagrees with you. Got it. Not open to criticism.

No just morons.

[BallzDeep]

No just morons.

Has to be real hard when you have those conversations with yourself then.

[Horza]

Can we talk about Bernie Sander's heart attack now or do we have to keep arguing about whether Trump is an authoritarian or just a xenophobic isolationist standing up for "native types?"

[Wonkie]

Has to be real hard when you have those conversations with yourself then.

https://i.imgur.com/OC6mwsS.gif

[zodium]

TREUOM,P

[Wonkie]

Bernie Sanders cancels upcoming events after undergoing heart surgery. (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/02/bernie-sanders-undergoes-surgery-for-artery-blockage-cancels-events-until-further-notice.html)

Bernie Sanders cancels presidential events after the 78-year-old senator suffered chest pain and doctors inserted two stents for artery blockage.

“Sen. Sanders is conversing and in good spirits. He will be resting up over the next few days,” his campaign advisor Jeff Weaver said. “We are canceling his events and appearances until further notice, and we will continue to provide appropriate updates.”

wait what the fuck bern had a heart attack?

[Horza]

It probably wasn't actually a heart attack, but his campaign is on indefinite hiatus.

[Wonkie]

It probably wasn't actually a heart attack, but his campaign is on indefinite hiatus.

wapo said blockage. that's a heart attack.

[Canelek]

We can sub in Larry David though, right?

Hopefully Bernie recovers quickly. Two stints put in eh?

[Horza]

He should probably drop out and endorse Warren.

[BallzDeep]

Can we talk about Bernie Sander's heart attack now or do we have to keep arguing about whether Trump is an authoritarian or just a xenophobic isolationist standing up for "native types?"

Do we always have to seek approval from Horza on what topics are discussed and how long? Does Horza also decide which parameters that we can scope Trump under? I see one authoritarian here.

[Horza]

The State Department's inspector general has arrived on Capitol Hill after requesting an urgent briefing with senior congressional staff. (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-10-02-2019/h_41627e81c12dbd33808acfc3145a251d)

The State Department's Inspector General has arrived on Capitol Hill after requesting an urgent briefing with senior congressional staff members after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pushed back on House Democratic demands to turn over Ukraine documents.

Linick plans to "provide staff with copies of documents related to the State Department and Ukraine" this afternoon in a bipartisan closed-door briefing with relevant congressional committees, a person familiar with the briefing told CNN.

[Horza]

Do we always have to seek approval from Horza on what topics are discussed and how long? Does Horza also decide which parameters that we can scope Trump under? I see one authoritarian here.

[Wonkie]

He should probably drop out and endorse Warren.

[Teppler]

I don’t get it, I thought the story was Biden did nothing wrong thus Trump was attacking an innocent political rival. Why would his odds drop in a Democrat primary which is democrat voters?

[Wonkie]

I don’t get it, I thought the story was Biden did nothing wrong thus Trump was attacking an innocent political rival. Why would his odds drop in a Democrat primary which is democrat voters?

because Biden fucking sucks

[Cecily]

You should keep your trolling in RnF. You can get banned for trolling outside of there. And I want you to know that I forgive you.

Alright I'm 100% sure you're me, and I love you.

[Domo]

#TrumpMeltdown trending on Twitter right now.

Best part about the Press conference was a finnish reporter asking the finnish President if Trump asked him for any favors hehe

[Horza]

Asked about his phone call with the Ukrainian President, Donald Trump goes into a full meltdown. (https://twitter.com/BridgeProject21/status/1179481327009243136)

[Teppler]

#TrumpMeltdown trending on Twitter right now.

Best part about the Press conference was a finnish reporter asking the finnish President if Trump asked him for any favors hehe

#TrumpMeltdown sounds like what you and Horza are going through right now.

[Horza]

Trump tweets a Nickelback song. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179502966606352386)

[Canelek]

I don't think there are any Biden supporters here unless he wins the primary.

And this Biden "corruption" nonsense... oy vey Trump is good at planting the seeds for conspiracy theorists to nurture! I mean really, that guy, for all his lying and gaslighting, has some big fans out in internetland.

[Horza]

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH!

[Canelek]

So the Finnish leader...he must have felt like the couple on the double-date with the couple that is having a hellacious argument.

"No. Marty, Janet. You both stay and listen to how much of a whore my wife is."

[feniin]

Asked about his phone call with the Ukrainian President, Donald Trump goes into a full meltdown. (https://twitter.com/BridgeProject21/status/1179481327009243136)

lol would you let someone this unhinged manage a gas station much less the "greatest nation on earth"? Yikes.

[Patriam1066]

Buttigieg 2020

[Teppler]

I don't think there are any Biden supporters here unless he wins the primary.

And this Biden "corruption" nonsense... oy vey Trump is good at planting the seeds for conspiracy theorists to nurture! I mean really, that guy, for all his lying and gaslighting, has some big fans out in internetland.

Joe Biden is so honest, he demanded that the corrupt prosecutor looking into the company that was paying his druggie son $50k a month be fired and replaced with an even more honest prosecutor! He's so honest he even extorted the Ukies by withholding a billion dollars in aid, which is what Trump was accused of doing half of except the transcript proves he didn't.

We'll just forget about how the new prosecutor, the one Biden wanted, then received a visit from Hunter's company, in which they apologized for the smear campaign they mounted against the old prosecutor to get him fired.

[Patriam1066]

Joe Biden is so honest, he demanded that the corrupt prosecutor looking into the company that was paying his druggie son $50k a month be fired and replaced with an even more honest prosecutor! He's so honest he even extorted the Ukies by withholding a billion dollars in aid, which is what Trump was accused of doing half of except the transcript proves he didn't.

We'll just forget about how the new prosecutor, the one Biden wanted, then received a visit from Hunter's company, in which they apologized for the smear campaign they mounted against the old prosecutor to get him fired.

Who cares

[Horza]

blah blah blah.

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH!

[Teppler]

https://i.ibb.co/Wcbkbbn/facebook1.png

Facebook has always been a CIA/Foreign Establishment operation to spy on the public and invade privacy. Once upon a time CIA tried time and time again to create something called 'Lifelog' which was an early, crude, online directory created for the purpose of intelligence communities to track people. It failed many times. The very day they gave up was the same day Facebook was founded.

Control of information and knowing everything about you is one of their power apparatuses. Facebook has been unfairly propped up against any and all competition for it's entire existence. Zuckerberg is a foreign operative. These people don't have allegiance to the US but enjoy a tax paid protected monopoly with impunity.

[Horza]

Zuckerberg is a foreign operative. These people don't have allegiance to the US but enjoy a tax paid protected monopoly with impunity.

[Teppler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRAsgvCwQvg

[Horza]

Hillary Clinton compares decision to not divorce Bill to parenting a transgender child on The View. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-compares-decision-to-not-divorce-bill-to-parenting-a-transgender-child)

"In my case, after really hard, hard thinking about it, counseling, praying, all the things that I did and that we went through, I just decided it was the right decision for me but that doesn’t mean it was an easy decision. It was a really hard decision."

"Sometimes when your child has an issue — I had a friend a few years ago who called up and said 'I don’t know who to talk to about this, but my little girl wants to be a boy. What do I do?'"

[Canelek]

Joe Biden is so honest, he demanded that the corrupt prosecutor looking into the company that was paying his druggie son $50k a month be fired and replaced with an even more honest prosecutor! He's so honest he even extorted the Ukies by withholding a billion dollars in aid, which is what Trump was accused of doing half of except the transcript proves he didn't.

We'll just forget about how the new prosecutor, the one Biden wanted, then received a visit from Hunter's company, in which they apologized for the smear campaign they mounted against the old prosecutor to get him fired.

Totally, totally.

[Wonkie]

Hillary Clinton compares decision to not divorce Bill to parenting a transgender child on The View. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-compares-decision-to-not-divorce-bill-to-parenting-a-transgender-child)

"In my case, after really hard, hard thinking about it, counseling, praying, all the things that I did and that we went through, I just decided it was the right decision for me but that doesn’t mean it was an easy decision. It was a really hard decision."

"Sometimes when your child has an issue — I had a friend a few years ago who called up and said 'I don’t know who to talk to about this, but my little girl wants to be a boy. What do I do?'"

full cosplay immersion 💋

[Patriam1066]

Teppler is right that Zuckerberg is some type of entity disloyal to the United States. I’m thinking just an autistic Jew with yellow fever, nothing sinister

[Teppler]

Big tech are monopolies that don't get broken up. For a reason, they are CIA operation linked at the very least.

https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/

[Patriam1066]

I hope they work for the CIA. May the American flag fly high atop every city. Roma victor, deus vult

[Wonkie]

Hey teppler what's your favorite food?

[feniin]

Hey teppler what's your favorite food?

I would imagine it's the assortment of pills the nurse at the asylum hands him at 2pm every day.

[Horza]

Big tech are monopolies that don't get broken up. For a reason, they are CIA operation linked at the very least.

Mark Zuckerberg recently admitted to employees that the prospect of an Elizabeth Warren presidency could "suck" for the company. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/01/tech/mark-zuckerberg-leaked-audio-elizabeth-warren/index.html)

"You have someone like Elizabeth Warren who thinks that the right answer is to break up the companies," Zuckerberg said in a meeting with Facebook employees this summer, according to the audio obtained by The Verge. "If she gets elected president, then I would bet that we will have a legal challenge, and I would bet that we will win the legal challenge. And does that still suck for us? Yeah."

[Wonkie]

I would imagine it's the assortment of pills the nurse at the asylum hands him at 2pm every day.

I was thinking dim son

[Patriam1066]

I was thinking dim son

Lol’ed

[Teppler]

Hey so are we admitting yet that Biden did something very bad? Or are we still denying reality?

If so, can we get back to the question, what was our CIA doing while this was happening?

[Horza]

Hey so are we admitting yet that Biden did something very bad? Or are we still denying reality?

If so, can we get back to the question, what was our CIA doing while this was happening?

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH!

[Canelek]

Hey so are we admitting yet that Biden did something very bad? Or are we still denying reality?

If so, can we get back to the question, what was our CIA doing while this was happening?

So after the 2PM meal, do you guys get dessert or is it just observed social time and crafts until lights out?

[Teppler]

Look at the cognitive dissonance they are in.

If Trump is guilty of the crimes they accuse him, which he isn't, then Biden is on the record as doing it twice as worse and that's the Obama administration with the CIA standing by and doing nothing. And clearly none of them have an explanation for why that could be. It ruins their whole Drumph paradigm they've propagandized with. They are completely unable to discuss any parts of these points, look at them.

[Wonkie]

Look at the cognitive dissonance they are in.

If Trump is guilty of the crimes they accuse him, which he isn't, then Biden is on the record as doing it twice as worse and that's the Obama administration with the CIA standing by and doing nothing. And clearly none of them have an explanation for why that could be. It ruins their whole Drumph paradigm they've propagandized with. They are completely unable to discuss any parts of these points, look at them.

Lock them up

[Teppler]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1179516055112290307

"An intelligence community whistleblower is required to go to directly to the Inspector General, before going to congress. The fact that this anonymous whistleblower went first to seek partisan advice from a George Soros *puppet* tells you everything you need to know..."

Adam Schiff broke conduct and should go to jail at the very least. A liar and enemy of the state. I think it's hilarious the words 'Soros puppet' are coming out of the white house now in 2019. What a time to be alive. More people are learning. We're coming for you guys. :)

[Canelek]

Yes, totally. How much for the macaroni depiction of your story?

[Horza]

I think it's hilarious the words 'Soros puppet' are coming out of the white house now in 2019.

Hilarious isn't exactly the word that I would use.

[Patriam1066]

This country was so much better in the 80s

[feniin]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1179516055112290307

"An intelligence community whistleblower is required to go to directly to the Inspector General, before going to congress. The fact that this anonymous whistleblower went first to seek partisan advice from a George Soros *puppet* tells you everything you need to know..."

Adam Schiff broke conduct and should go to jail at the very least. A liar and enemy of the state. I think it's hilarious the words 'Soros puppet' are coming out of the white house now in 2019. What a time to be alive. More people are learning. We're coming for you guys. :)
the inspector general’s office had found information in its review supporting the whistleblower’s allegations, according to its statement.

“The Complainant followed the law in filing the urgent concern complaint, and the [inspector general’s office] followed the law in transmitting the information to the Acting Director of National Intelligence on August 26, 2019,” the intelligence community’s inspector general wrote.

[Wonkie]

.

The strategy here is to throw dirty diapers at the media and drown the signal in noise.

Butt only very stable geniuses fall for that crap. :o

[zodium]

TRONKT

[Teppler]

Education time. Why do we have so much propaganda and little rejects shilling for the DNC and DNC causes?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_Foreign_Propaganda_and_Disinformation_A ct

They spend billions on propaganda. During Obama’s presidency, the state funded a massive propaganda apparatus where tax payer money started funding companies like vox, salon and buzzfeed to put out articles that combat what the government calls propaganda. One of his last acts of his presidency was to leave them with major funds. Of course what happens is what the government funds ends up being the worst propaganda.

We were never told where funding for this went exactly but one clue we had was that #learntocode started trending when the funds ran out and many left wing rags went out of business over night.

[Patriam1066]

What is foxnews ? Seems like redneck propaganda to me

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Question: Is Edward Snowden an enemy of the state? Should he goto jail for exposing the seedy under belly of various parts of american politics etc?

As he (in my opinion quite rightfully) said: What is lawful isnt always right.

[Teppler]

What is foxnews ? Seems like redneck propaganda to me

Fox News is an enemy of the state for sure. They have a few anchors that are great like Tucker. Sean is ok some times. Most others are garb.

[Teppler]

https://i.ibb.co/FDLTD3r/tucker1.png

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Pretty sure he called Iraq "a crappy place filled with a bunch of semiliterate primitive monkeys"

nice guy

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/unearthed-audio-shows-tucker-carlson-using-white-nationalist-rhetoric-and-making

Carlson. What a champ.

Media Matters is rated by mediabiasfactcheck.com as "Overall, we rate Media Matters Left Biased based on selectively checking right wing sources and High for factual reporting due to properly sourcing information and a clean fact check record."

So wether or not its "left wing" its fact he said these things.

[Teppler]

Oh boy, media matters. You might as well post your ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord propaganda too.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Oh boy, media matters. You might as well post your ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord propaganda too.

So your saying mediabiasfactcheck.com are biased too?

A website setup to vet how biased sources are also biased?

Where does it end? :D

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

In any case its pretty hard to argue with the audio. Unless you think thats fabricated.

[Teppler]

It doesn't end. They spend money to dominate the media. Soros has funded an incredible amount of liberal think tanks to disseminate propaganda.

Media Maters, ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord are the same things under different names.

He does these things in all sorts of countries. Except Israel. Check this one out-

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhc_epGUwAACvfk.jpg

[Teppler]

Look into David Brock, the guy Soros has run these think tanks.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Right so basically all media bar the media you think fit is biased. How can anyone possibly discuss with you.

IS the audio fabricated? Do you think someone with those views should be presenting on what you call unbiased media?

You also didnt answer: Is Edward Snowden an enemy of the state? Should he goto jail for exposing the seedy under belly of various parts of american politics etc?

As he (in my opinion quite rightfully) said: What is lawful isnt always right.

[Jimjam]

So your saying mediabiasfactcheck.com are biased too?

A website setup to vet how biased sources are also biased?

Where does it end? :D

You need to visit http://mediabiastfactcheckbiasfactcheck.com

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

You need to visit http://mediabiastfactcheckbiasfactcheck.com

Gold :D

[Teppler]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-brocks-media-empire-ramps-up-for-2020

Democratic activist David Brock rebranded the progressive website Blue Nation Review as Shareblue, hoping to build the left’s answer to Breitbart News.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/325259-media-matters-founder-david-brock-suffers-heart-attack

"Media Matters founder David Brock"

https://www.influencewatch.org/political-party/correct-the-record/

The PAC(Correct The Record) was run by Clinton ally David Brock

I've seen first hand what kind of things these agencies do and they are extremely ugly. You need to look at who is directing these companies before you start citing them as good resources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

"Media Matters has a policy of not comprehensively listing donors. In 2010, six years after the Democracy Alliance initially endorsed MMfA, financier George Soros — a founding and continuing member of the Alliance — announced that he was donating $1 million to MMfA. Soros said his concern over "recent evidence suggesting that the incendiary rhetoric of Fox News hosts may incite violence" had moved him to donate to MMfA.[21][22] During a 2014 CNN interview, David Brock stated that Soros' contributions were "less than 10 percent" of Media Matters' budget.[23] According to Politico: "Media Matters, however has received funding from or formed partnerships with several groups that Soros funds or has funded. These include the Tides Foundation, Democracy Alliance, Moveon.org and the Center for American Progress.
George Soros and Clinton administration White House Chief of Staff John Podesta helped Brock raise $2 million for Media Matters."

Look how they try to hide Soros involvement.

[Canelek]

No macaroni art then?

[Wonkie]

Education time. Why do we have so much propaganda and little rejects shilling for the DNC and DNC causes?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_Foreign_Propaganda_and_Disinformation_A ct

They spend billions on propaganda. During Obama’s presidency, the state funded a massive propaganda apparatus where tax payer money started funding companies like vox, salon and buzzfeed to put out articles that combat what the government calls propaganda. One of his last acts of his presidency was to leave them with major funds. Of course what happens is what the government funds ends up being the worst propaganda.

We were never told where funding for this went exactly but one clue we had was that #learntocode started trending when the funds ran out and many left wing rags went out of business over night.

Fox News is an enemy of the state for sure. They have a few anchors that are great like Tucker. Sean is ok some times. Most others are garb.

https://i.ibb.co/FDLTD3r/tucker1.png

Oh boy, media matters. You might as well post your ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord propaganda too.

It doesn't end. They spend money to dominate the media. Soros has funded an incredible amount of liberal think tanks to disseminate propaganda.

Media Maters, ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord are the same things under different names.

He does these things in all sorts of countries. Except Israel. Check this one out-

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhc_epGUwAACvfk.jpg

Look into David Brock, the guy Soros has run these think tanks.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-brocks-media-empire-ramps-up-for-2020

Democratic activist David Brock rebranded the progressive website Blue Nation Review as Shareblue, hoping to build the left’s answer to Breitbart News.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/325259-media-matters-founder-david-brock-suffers-heart-attack

"Media Matters founder David Brock"

https://www.influencewatch.org/political-party/correct-the-record/

The PAC(Correct The Record) was run by Clinton ally David Brock

I've seen first hand what kind of things these agencies do and they are extremely ugly. You need to look at who is directing these companies before you start citing them as good resources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America



Look how they try to hide Soros involvement.

a sword-day, a post day, ere the sun rises! Forth, analinguist!

[feniin]

We get it, Teppler. You don't like Jews.

[Horza]

We get it, Teppler. You don't like Jews.

Of course he loves Tucker Carlson.

[BallzDeep]

lol would you let someone this unhinged manage a gas station much less the "greatest nation on earth"? Yikes.

Guess you don't see the irony in asking Horza that question.

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/MBN0bKb.jpg

[BallzDeep]

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/unearthed-audio-shows-tucker-carlson-using-white-nationalist-rhetoric-and-making

Carlson. What a champ.

Media Matters is rated by mediabiasfactcheck.com as "Overall, we rate Media Matters Left Biased based on selectively checking right wing sources and High for factual reporting due to properly sourcing information and a clean fact check record."

So wether or not its "left wing" its fact he said these things.

Right but its OPINION whether someone deems them as "White Nationalist." You guys don't seem to understand the line between someones opinion and a fact lol.

[Horza]

Trump is now openly urging the leaders of Ukraine and China to investigate his political rivals. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/oct/03/trump-news-today-live-impeachment-updates-ukraine-bernie-sanders-latest?page=with:block-5d960da68f081108db9c1a4c#block-5d960da68f081108db9c1a4c)

In an extraordinary press conference outside the White House – aired on cable news and attended by multiple journalists – Trump said China should investigate the Bidens, and suggested he may ask the country to do so. He did not explain what he meant by "what happened in China."

[Canelek]

It's actually quite an interesting tactic by trump. But the problem lies not in whether the statements are private or public. The problem lies simply in the statements themselves, and if they are concrete evidence that he used his office for personal gain, or even extortion (in the case of Ukraine).

I'm not sure he gets that part.

Or, he's just spamming now to desensitize and dilute the impact.

Either way, the call and transcripts with Ukraine president Vlfgmerkic sure as shit point to both personal gain and extortion. I'm no young lawyer, but the 'duh' factor is pretty high there.

If for nothing else, the conspiracy theory pirates have latched on to the whole Biden & Son thing since disproving hard evidence is out the window.

[Teppler]

This one always cracks me up

https://i.ibb.co/BN921dy/1564545111944.jpg

[Teppler]

https://i.ibb.co/Q6Ft16s/merkel1.gif

[Horza]

This one always cracks me up

Sanders is out, you need to improve your meme game.

[Horza]

House intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff says Trump’s Ukraine/China comments this morning were “repugnant” and “a fundamental breach of his oath of office.” (https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1179810100346793985)

[Teppler]

Sanders is out, you need to improve your meme game.

Yeah but the joke is still on his donors because that money they donated isn't coming back.

[Teppler]

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/e25e2a95b358671d5e752b18aa062bdf5e0a609ccf4ad08429 dcc98b6ba1ca1b_1.jpg

lel

[Horza]

You seem even more /pol/ than usual today.

[Horza]

It's actually quite an interesting tactic by trump. But the problem lies not in whether the statements are private or public. The problem lies simply in the statements themselves, and if they are concrete evidence that he used his office for personal gain, or even extortion (in the case of Ukraine).

I'm not sure he gets that part.

Or, he's just spamming now to desensitize and dilute the impact.

Either way, the call and transcripts with Ukraine president Vlfgmerkic sure as shit point to both personal gain and extortion. I'm no young lawyer, but the 'duh' factor is pretty high there.

If for nothing else, the conspiracy theory pirates have latched on to the whole Biden & Son thing since disproving hard evidence is out the window.

He's just trying to normalize this sort of behavior so that the Republicans can attempt to portray the many investigations into his many shading dealings as standard partisan attacks during the upcoming election.

[Wonkie]

Owning a house isn't much different from being a landlord

Bernie is a class-enemy

[Teppler]

Owning a house isn't much different from being a landlord

Bernie is a class-enemy

Never worked a job in his life except politician. Was always upper class because of his family. His dad was a fucking asshole too and always bitched and moaned about working conditions during the days when you could get insane salaries right out of high school.

[Horza]

We get it, Teppler. You don't like Jews.

[Horza]

'Crazy to withhold security assistance' to Ukraine for political purposes said top U.S. diplomat. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-diplomat-ukraine-crazy-withhold-security-sasistance-political/story?id=66039011)

The exchange, provided by former U.S Special Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker as part of his closed-door deposition before multiple House committees Thursday, shows what appears to be encrypted text messages he exchanged with two other American diplomats in September regarding aid money President Donald Trump ordered to be held back from Ukraine.

[PieOats]

Owning a house isn't much different from being a landlord

Bernie is a class-enemy

Woke.


*adds Bernie Sanders to shortlist of presidential picks*

[Patriam1066]

Pretty sure he called Iraq "a crappy place filled with a bunch of semiliterate primitive monkeys"

nice guy

Occasionally he gets it right

[Horza]

Trump floats idea of his own news network to counter CNN. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/03/trump-proposes-creating-own-news-network-025988)

“CNN is a voice that seems to be the voice out there. It’s a terrible thing for our country,” Trump said, diverging from his speech on protecting Medicare for seniors at an event in The Villages, Fla. “We ought to start our own network and put some real news out there, because they are so bad for our country.”

“We’re looking at that. We should do something about it, too,” he added. “Put some really talented people and get a real voice out there, not a voice that's fake.”

[BallzDeep]

It's actually quite an interesting tactic by trump. But the problem lies not in whether the statements are private or public. The problem lies simply in the statements themselves, and if they are concrete evidence that he used his office for personal gain, or even extortion (in the case of Ukraine).

I'm not sure he gets that part.

Or, he's just spamming now to desensitize and dilute the impact.

Either way, the call and transcripts with Ukraine president Vlfgmerkic sure as shit point to both personal gain and extortion. I'm no young lawyer, but the 'duh' factor is pretty high there.

If for nothing else, the conspiracy theory pirates have latched on to the whole Biden & Son thing since disproving hard evidence is out the window.

Let's clear up something for logic sake. Would you say that he is responding to spams about him or spamming?

If someone had a claim about you and they released it on CNN, MSNBC, ABC and the other 90% of the news websites that are pro-left. And then you responded back with something, is that you responding to people spamming about you or are you the actual spammer?

It's sad that most of these arguments don't actually come down to the issue at hand because honestly no one knows the unequivocal truth but moreover arguing common sense and explaining the evolution of thought processing.

These are pretty clear. You opinions aren't the way of the land until they are the way of the land and Trump is pretty reactionary.

[feniin]

Translation: pro left means based on fact/reality. Can't have that shit in our right wing spin machine.

[BallzDeep]

Translation: pro left means based on fact/reality. Can't have that shit in our right wing spin machine.

It must suck to be the epitome of what you hate in Trump lol. Authoritarian. Check.

I guess you couldn't even fathom that there is a possibility of you being wrong. To you the chance is 0%. Dumbass lol.

[Teppler]

Translation: pro left means based on fact/reality. Can't have that shit in our right wing spin machine.

Great are we ready to admit Joe Biden's crimes now?

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

[Horza]

If someone had a claim about you and they released it on CNN, MSNBC, ABC and the other 90% of the news websites that are pro-left. And then you responded back with something, is that you responding to people spamming about you or are you the actual spammer?

I have some good news then, we may soon be getting our equivalent of Russia Today.

Trump floats idea of his own news network to counter CNN. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/03/trump-proposes-creating-own-news-network-025988)

[Horza]

.png

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH!

[Wonkie]

These are pretty clear. You opinions aren't the way of the land until they are the way of the land and Trump is pretty reactionary.

the democrats won 2018. kneel before zod.

[Teppler]

Mueller time! I can tell you guys really got him this time.

[Wonkie]

i'm so tired of all these Dynast Kings. please vote for a chick.

[Teppler]

Wonkie and Horza I'm worried this is still going to be you guys after this impeachment stuff-

https://i.ibb.co/RTfz9ND/tds.jpg

Are you guys sure you aren't setting yourselves up for yet another Trump related devastating loss again?

[Wonkie]

Wonkie and Horza I'm worried this is still going to be you guys after this impeachment stuff-

https://i.ibb.co/RTfz9ND/tds.jpg

Are you guys sure you aren't setting yourselves up for yet another Trump related devastating loss again?

I'm gonna say swears at Ohio cuz my vote doesn't count

FUCK YOU OHIO

[Horza]

i'm so tired of all these Dynast Kings. please vote for a chick.

President Warren is a Cougar. (https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1179851099978846209)

[feniin]

It must suck to be the epitome of what you hate in Trump lol. Authoritarian. Check.

I guess you couldn't even fathom that there is a possibility of you being wrong. To you the chance is 0%. Dumbass lol.

Or I can use my eyes and ears and make sense of the fact that orange man is doing everything he can to subvert rationality, law, and tradition. It's not hard to see that he's done more harm to the "American Brand" and our standing globally as well as lower every human rights standard he can.

[Teppler]

Warren sure didn't mind making a pretty salary off those universities when she fraudulently claimed to be native american. She's got a lot of balls to criticize the bleeding natures of colleges now.

[Wonkie]

anyway Teppler the well-populated northern states usually vote blue

Didn't you post about intelligence and climate recently?

;)

[Teppler]

anyway Teppler the well-populated northern states usually vote blue

Didn't you post about intelligence and climate recently?

;)

Maybe you should do the research on the most valuable college educated voting block- whites. Where they voted, which is why you lost.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138754/blame-trumps-victory-college-educated-whites-not-working-class

Next check and see who actually pays taxes in the country and is supporting the infrastructure. I'm guessing you don't have the faintest clue.

But here's one. Illegal immigrants cost thousands per year per person. Regular immigrants aren't much better. Guess who provides actual tax surplus per person on average?

[PieOats]

Or I can use my eyes and ears and make sense

I don't think you *can* actually.




But do keep at it, pal!

[Horza]

whites whites whites whites.

[Teppler]

How did you guess the answer?

[Teppler]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CC5N1_bZsQ

[Wonkie]

Maybe you should do the research on the most valuable college educated voting block- whites. Where they voted, which is why you lost.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138754/blame-trumps-victory-college-educated-whites-not-working-class

Next check and see who actually pays taxes in the country and is supporting the infrastructure. I'm guessing you don't have the faintest clue.

But here's one. Illegal immigrants cost thousands per year per person. Regular immigrants aren't much better. Guess who provides actual tax surplus per person on average?

Why are you so caught up on race? Clearly geography is the true source of human intelligence.

[Teppler]

Why are you so caught up on race? Clearly geography is the true source of human intelligence.

I grew up a race libertarian of sorts. You have enough experiences and you get shocked out of that. You also learn about the statistics over time and you try to figure out the “why” with a lot of things.

There’s a reason why Israel has a border wall yet overwhelmingly fought for America not to have one. Biggest Clinton donors, voted almost 80% for her, cite no wall as an issue. Try and figure this one out.

[PieOats]

Why are you so caught up on race? Clearly geography is the true source of human intelligence.

goog poast! i agree with the black cat. warm climates produce low quality human beings. have a look at Florida, lads!





prove me wrong.

[Wonkie]

goog poast! i agree with the black cat. warm climates produce low quality human beings. have a look at Florida, lads!





prove me wrong.

They're not bad people, just terribly silly. Let's not brutalize anyone. :eek:

[Horza]

Trump ordered the removal of the ambassador to Ukraine after complaints from Giuliani that she was undermining him abroad and obstructing efforts to persuade Kyiv to investigate Biden. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-ordered-ukraine-ambassador-removed-after-complaints-from-giuliani-others-11570137147)

The recall of Marie Yovanovitch in the spring has become a key point of interest in the House impeachment inquiry. Giuliani said he gave Mr. Pompeo a nine-page document that included a detailed timeline of the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine and allegations of impropriety against Ms. Yovanovitch, including that she was “very close” to Mr. Biden.

[Horza]

There’s a reason why Israel has a border wall yet overwhelmingly fought for America not to have one. Biggest Clinton donors, voted almost 80% for her, cite no wall as an issue. Try and figure this one out.

American Jews aren't Israeli Jews.

[feniin]

Teppler thinks all Jews are the same.

[Teppler]

So who wants to count up how many dual citizen American-Israeli politicians we have? You know the people who vote for that 3.2$ bil package to Israel every year. Anyone want to remind me what we get back for the 3.2 bil annually?

Bonus question- How many Israeli politicians are dual citizens? No one's gonna answer this so I'll just give the answer. 0. They consider is a security risk.

[Horza]

Teppler thinks all Jews are the same.

[Teppler]

I'd reply but you're probably going to edit or delete your post again.

[Horza]

Asked on Thursday morning why Yovanovitch was recalled, Trump said, "I don't know if I recalled her or somebody recalled her, but I heard very, very bad things about her for a very long period of time -- not good."

Yovanovitch, a career member of the foreign service and who has served in ambassadorships under three presidents, was sworn in as ambassador to Ukraine in August 2016. Former officials who worked with her praised her experience and ability and the diplomatic community has rallied to support her.

[Wonkie]

if everyone lived north of the 48th parallel we'd be on mars by now

[Horza]

Trump raised Biden with Chinese President Xi in June call housed in highly secure server. (https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/trump-biden-call-xi-secure-server/index.html)

During a phone call with Xi on June 18, Trump raised Biden's political prospects as well as those of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who by then had started rising in the polls, according to two people familiar with the discussion. In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed.

The White House record of that call was later stored in the highly secured electronic system used to house a now-infamous phone call with Ukraine's President and which helped spark a whistleblower complaint that's led Democrats to open an impeachment inquiry into Trump.