******Official politics thread ******

[Horza]

Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed.

[BallzDeep]

Or I can use my eyes and ears and make sense of the fact that orange man is doing everything he can to subvert rationality, law, and tradition. It's not hard to see that he's done more harm to the "American Brand" and our standing globally as well as lower every human rights standard he can.

So let me ask you this. You list eyes and ears. Would you agree you aren't physically seeing something happen in action besides watching something live. Would you also agree when you listen you aren't physically on the phone call or listening to a live conversation minus what you see on live TV or filtered calls?

Then would you agree that both sides of media have bias. Then you would come to the conclusion that both sides are undoubtedly using news to push stories that might not be completely true and have bias involved.

Then would you believe that now you are arguing disingenuously stating the left has no bias and factual and the right is full of lies.

Then you get to the point where you realize you have a political party that is deeply tied to 90% of the news organizations that just lost an election. Their opponent mocks them, hates them and reverses any of their policies. What would you do to stop him from winning again when you know its going to be a victory in his favor? And would it be moral?

[BallzDeep]

And to be honest, strategically, it is all the democrats have. You just put major stake into a candidate and prepped it for years. You downvoted Bernie to promote Hillary and told the country it was a landslide victory. Trump wins the election. Hillary steps down. Statistically a beaten opponent is not prone to win against an incumbent. If you want any chance for the 2020 election with your voter base so split currently, it's impeachment or else and for any reason.

[feniin]

Stop reading so many opinion pieces and get yourself out of the 24/7 news cycle. Make a friend, see some nature, try having compassion and empathy for something. Guarantee you won't be thumping your alt-right Bible if you just make a human connection.

[Cecily]

That's pretty good advice. Life is better without politics and every time I check on them it's just something else bad like oh... I can't serve in the military now. Great.

America doesn't have enough brain cells left after 2016 to survive another election with trump on the ballot. I'd just switch off the news and let whatever catastrophe that's gonna happen happen.

[BallzDeep]

Stop reading so many opinion pieces and get yourself out of the 24/7 news cycle. Make a friend, see some nature, try having compassion and empathy for something. Guarantee you won't be thumping your alt-right Bible if you just make a human connection.

No valid arguments - results to personal insults without knowing anything about me. Check.

Have plenty of friends, shoot in 3 gun tournaments once a month, set up for deer season this year for bow and rifle with friends, just shot a group of hogs last week with a buddy, make close to 100K a year and just bought a home. Pretty stable and normal life.

Sorry I don't fit what you imagined. Is hunting hogs not compassionate enough for you?

Also wanted to add non religious - I find religion is metaphor for some valuable life lessons and what human beings have written over time as a guide to live your life. Some are powerful lessons, some are terrible.

[BallzDeep]

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson

[feniin]

Yikes.

[feniin]

The overlap between 20 year old elf sim player and intellectually crippled redneck gun enthusiast is not one I would have imagined to exist.

[BallzDeep]

Yikes.

Yikes to Thomas Jefferson and believing in the idea of being self sufficient. I can see where you get your priorities.

[BallzDeep]

The overlap between 20 year old elf sim player and intellectually crippled redneck gun enthusiast is not one I would have imagined to exist.

Wrong again. Live in Austin, Texas and in the main city. Work in Risk Management. I like the idea of self preservation and yes I like video games. I guess you find something wrong with that. Maybe you are the one who needs to go outside and understand nature?

[feniin]

Yikes to Thomas Jefferson and believing in the idea of being self sufficient. I can see where you get your priorities.

He lived in a time where it was mandatory to be self sufficient (or have slaves/vassals to do it for you, anyway). Today we have grocery stores and electricity. Do you also sacrifice livestock to the sun god for good weather for the crops?

[BallzDeep]

And then you want to give me a line about compassion when you are pre-judging someone based on a lifestyle you don't agree with. Get fucking real.

[BallzDeep]

He lived in a time where it was mandatory to be self sufficient (or have slaves/vassals to do it for you, anyway). Today we have grocery stores and electricity. Do you also sacrifice livestock to the sun god for good weather for the crops?

Are you stupid enough to tell me self harvested deer meat is worse for the environment and for you then processed meat from the store? Did you also know that national forest and animal preservation is mainly paid by hunters? Bet you didn't know that did you. Bet you've never donated have you.

[Horza]

One Trump ally outside the White House described receiving a message from Chinese government officials asking if Trump was serious when he suggested China open an investigation into Biden. The response: investigating corruption is an easy way to earn goodwill with Trump.

;)

[feniin]

And then you want to give me a line about compassion when you are pre-judging someone based on a lifestyle you don't agree with. Get fucking real.

You're awfully sensitive for a guy that gets off on shooting animals.

[feniin]

Are you stupid enough to tell me self harvested deer meat is worse for the environment and for you then processed meat from the store? Did you also know that national forest and animal preservation is mainly paid by hunters? Bet you didn't know that did you. Bet you've never donated have you.

Hunters are different than guys who like to shoot their guns and gloat about it on 20 year old elf sim forums.

[BallzDeep]

U.S. Sportsmen Contribute
$8 Million
Every Day to Conservation

https://elknetwork.com/hunting-conservation-paid-hunters/

[BallzDeep]

You're awfully sensitive for a guy that gets off on shooting animals.

Well lucky for you I've been approved by the ATF for form 4's, been extensively checked. You on the other hand that doesn't have a basic understanding for wildlife and wants to pre judge someones emotions through an online form. Can't be so sure.

[feniin]

Well lucky for you I've been approved by the ATF for form 4's, been extensively checked. You on the other hand that doesn't have a basic understanding for wildlife and wants to pre judge someones emotions through an online form. Can't be so sure.

:confused:

Because you have ATF stamps you're a conservationist?

[BallzDeep]

Hunters are different than guys who like to shoot their guns and gloat about it on 20 year old elf sim forums.

Well, another thing you'd be wrong about is that I've been on this forum for quite awhile and have brought it up twice. Once on my main character back when I actually played P99 4 years ago and once now when you wanted to judge my character and I had to explain how dumb you are.

And yes, I like P99 forums because I've played EQ in the past, enjoy the game and always had somewhat funny interactions or talked about nostalgia of the game.

I know this is very hard for you to comprehend but there are decently normal people who used to like Everquest that still enjoy talking about the game mechanics or the game itself. It's the ones that continued playing and joined raid guilds and played it like a job you have to be worried about.

[BallzDeep]

:confused:

Because you have ATF stamps you're a conservationist?

Man, you are fucking retarded lol. No idiot, I have to pay for permits to hunt. Hunting permits fund wildlife conservation. Hunters care about what type of game is available so they don't overhunt for that purpose. No one wants to go out there and kill a baby deer. If you are killing a deer, you want an older buck for the value of meat and because it is an accomplishment of patience and accuracy. If you don't believe so, I'd invite you out, give you my bow and good luck.

Or do you just enjoy fantasizing about that in video games?

[BallzDeep]

Read a post next time before you speak. You liberals have an awful hard time comprehending basic stuff but want to speak up and shout over people.

[Wonkie]

If you x, you then y is an obnoxious argumentation style go back to reddit

[Horza]

.

You seem upset.

[feniin]

Cool story, bro. Glad we could get to the bottom of your ridiculous life. Talking shit about people playing a game on the forum for the game. Kills animals for fun. Thinks Trump is telling the truth when he speaks. Your brain is busted, my man.

[BallzDeep]

You seem upset.

Good thing you used seem. But I'll fill in that limited vocabulary. Flabbergasted. It blows my mind people want to speak up about something they have no earthly clue about and never attempted in their life.

[Horza]

Good thing you used seem. But I'll fill in that limited vocabulary. Flabbergasted. It blows my mind people want to speak up about something they have no earthly clue about and never attempted in their life.

I've hunted before and killing defenseless animals doesn't make you more of a man.

[BallzDeep]

I've hunted before and killing defenseless animals doesn't make you more of a man.

Have you now? Did you field dress? What range? What blind? Caliber? What season did you do it in winter or summer? Scope specs and what zoom?

Do you eat meat? No? You have a vagina.

[BallzDeep]

Also, it doesn't make you more of a man but makes you a more useful man. You guys still aren't getting it. So yes, it makes you more of a man based of the fact you are a more useful man. Similar to me saying a mechanic is more of a man than himself if he didn't have that skill. You compare to other people, I compare to myself.

[feniin]

Have you now? Did you field dress? What range? What blind? Caliber? What season did you do it in winter or summer? Scope specs and what zoom?

Do you eat meat? No? You have a vagina.

dat misogyny

[Wonkie]

dat misogyny

Plenty of ladies love to gobble meat

[Horza]

Have you now? Did you field dress? What range? What blind? Caliber? What season did you do it in winter or summer? Scope specs and what zoom?

Do you eat meat? No? You have a vagina.

Of course I eat meat, I don't have the willpower to be a vegetarian.

[BallzDeep]

Of course I eat meat, I don't have the willpower to be a vegetarian.

So you just prefer someone else does the dirty work in an inhumane way I guess?

[Horza]

I think that it should be seen as a necessary evil, not a macho sport for white trash.

[BallzDeep]

I think that it should be seen as a necessary evil, not a macho sport for white trash.

Well considering I use every part of the deer and most deer hunters do, I'd say even if it is macho sport for white trash, its better for the world than how you do things but this is one of those areas where you probably think since you are doing it that everyone else should too regardless if it's more inhumane and unhealthy and worse for the environment. Where did those liberal values go though?

[feniin]

I think that it should be seen as a necessary evil, not a macho sport for white trash.

It's almost like living in the modern world is offensive to ol' BallzDeep. He wants to go back in time to when men were men and women were seen and not heard. When it was okay to be openly racist/sexist in public. Poor guy. Can't cope with reality.

[feniin]

Well considering I use every part of the deer and most deer hunters do, I'd say even if it is macho sport for white trash, its better for the world than how you do things but this is one of those areas where you probably think since you are doing it that everyone else should too regardless if it's more inhumane and unhealthy and worse for the environment. Where did those liberal values go though?

Tell us more about how you mutilate animals.

[Wonkie]

So you just prefer someone else does the dirty work in an inhumane way I guess?

I do yes ;)

[Horza]

Well considering I use every part of the deer and most deer hunters do, I'd say even if it is macho sport for white trash, its better for the world than how you do things but this is one of those areas where you probably think since you are doing it that everyone else should too regardless if it's more inhumane and unhealthy and worse for the environment. Where did those liberal values go though?

I could care less about hunting as the environmental costs are pretty negligible, it's the misogynistic macho attitude I take issue with.

[Wonkie]

Ballzdeep do you really prefer to handle your meat yourself?

[BallzDeep]

Tell us more about how you mutilate animals.

Is this identity politics? do you only know some weird fucked up people so you have to put someone in one of those boxes?

You know there is a SJW playbook. If you read the book, you are play by play. Argue something you know nothing about. Person proves how its actually a good thing and processed meat is a bad thing. SJW makes some outrageous claim with 0 evidence and keep repeating it like an autistic kid.

[BallzDeep]

News Flash....

The more you say it the more it doesn't come true and do you literally have to tell yourself that to justify your position? Can your argument not stand on its own?

[BallzDeep]

Ballzdeep do you really prefer to handle your meat yourself?

Great dad joke. Can tell you'd be the cool guy at the party. But yes, doesn't everyone? No one knows it better.

[feniin]

I could care less about hunting as the environmental costs are pretty negligible, it's the misogynistic macho attitude I take issue with.

This, 100%.

Also, BallzDeep is such a dingus that it's fun to get him riled up about his weird humblebrag about his guns.

[Wonkie]

Great dad joke. Can tell you'd be the cool guy at the party. But yes, doesn't everyone? No one knows it better.

lol

[BallzDeep]

I could care less about hunting as the environmental costs are pretty negligible, it's the misogynistic macho attitude I take issue with.

Actually there not. If you read the article hunters donate 8mil per day. If you want to break up hunters and create mass factories that produce meat, that's fine but I guarantee you none of you have donated to the wildlife conservation and if you have it isn't a yearly submission. The people that do are hunters. If you don't collect the permit fees, people who don't give a shit would never fork over the amounts hunters do. That's evidence by you all here.

[BallzDeep]

Not to mention hunters help regulate over and under population. Hogs infiltrate and breed in massive quantity. They kill some of the other wildlife, scare off deer and destroy over 1.5 billion annually of vegetative land.

[Horza]

Actually there not. If you read the article hunters donate 8mil per day. If you want to break up hunters and create mass factories that produce meat, that's fine but I guarantee you none of you have donated to the wildlife conservation and if you have it isn't a yearly submission. The people that do are hunters. If you don't collect the permit fees, people who don't give a shit would never fork over the amounts hunters do. That's evidence by you all here.

I could care less about hunting means that I'm not even against or in favor of it, I don't care.

[feniin]

Actually there not. If you read the article hunters donate 8mil per day. If you want to break up hunters and create mass factories that produce meat, that's fine but I guarantee you none of you have donated to the wildlife conservation and if you have it isn't a yearly submission. The people that do are hunters. If you don't collect the permit fees, people who don't give a shit would never fork over the amounts hunters do. That's evidence by you all here.

They're*

[Horza]

evidenced*

[Teppler]

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/464072-trumps-approval-ticks-to-up-to-highest-level-since-december

"Trump approval climbs to highest level of 2019 amid impeachment inquiry"

[BallzDeep]

I could care less about hunting means that I'm not even against or in favor of it, I don't care.

Ah so you are one of those that only picks things that suit them. Up in arms about Donald Trump. Don't care about anything else that doesn't effect me.
They're*
I glad you can point out multi-tasking typing over being a loud vocal majority against hunting, rednecks and a lifestyle you don't understand. Glad to see your priorities are straight. -

[Horza]

According to a new USA TODAY-Ipsos Poll, 45 percent of Americans support a vote by the House to impeach the president while 38 percent said they don't think the House should vote on impeachment. (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464158-poll-45-percent-of-americans-support-impeaching-trump)

[feniin]

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/464072-trumps-approval-ticks-to-up-to-highest-level-since-december

"Trump approval climbs to highest level of 2019 amid impeachment inquiry"

That's a one day poll from a hardly-rated polling organization ;)

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTKnNJvoZeKKm1tTvcd9X2OSxhbEZgz9Axn6VdUFeRQHJf80Y ZlNybwjQsqJdmSynnmEi1RKmRzo3tl/pubhtml/sheet?headers=false&gid=0

45% Approval on their 3 day over that time period. 55% Net Disapproval.

[Horza]

That's a one day poll from a hardly-rated polling organization ;)

Harris is rated plenty, I believe that it's a C on 538.

[Sonderbeast]

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/464072-trumps-approval-ticks-to-up-to-highest-level-since-december

"Trump approval climbs to highest level of 2019 amid impeachment inquiry"

45% is still an F

[feniin]

45% is still an F

That's an optimistic number, too. It's closer to <42% according to the aggregate, weighted polling.

[Canelek]

I skimmed quite a bit after I was out. Had to hit some golf balls.

OK, now I see where a few of us are disagreeing that have nothing to do with the catastrophe of trump and more to do with the traditional party discrepancies from times of yore.

Let's shelve hunting as a related topic. I do not think it pertains to anything here. That's hunting, not civilian tactical weaponry.

Hunting should never be associated with that bullshit NRA nonsense. Hunting is more than just tradition to huge swaths of people. I grew up hunting and fishing. I no longer hunt due to time and interest, but I believe it to be a healthy activity (except for the hunted, of course).

Fishing? Bassmasters, motherfuckers. Fishing is dope. I hope to have time to do much more. I grew up in Arkansas, so that shit is dear to me. Salmon, steelhead, smallie and sturgeon fishing is goodtimes up here in the PNW.

I may think you all are mislead and fixably-tarded for voting for trump, we are not all that different.

Well, except for the conspiracy//Biden thing. That is just silly and you should know better than listen to people like Hannity.

Traditional conservative != Liberal arguments make much more fucking sense. At least it is a semblance of normalcy missing from our collective USAdian lives since late 2015.

[Canelek]

45% is still an F

If that orange twat didn't inherit massive wealth and/or had everything in life served up to him on a fucking tee he'd be babbling on a street corner wearing a breadboard.

[Horza]

Texts show U.S. diplomats pushed Ukraine to investigate Biden and dangled a Trump visit. (https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-03/the-latest-texts-show-reactions-to-trump-demands-on-ukraine)

A cache of text messages were released late Thursday by House investigators following a 10-hour interview with one of the diplomats, Kurt Volker, who stepped down as special envoy to Ukraine amid the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry.

Volker, in a text message on the morning of a planned July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, wrote: “Heard from White House — Assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / 'get to the bottom of what happened' in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”

[Canelek]

This whole thing is gaining momentum rather quickly. Hell, even China is getting worried about being involved with this mess; and they bootleg DVDs and Levis!

[zodium]

TRTEUM

[Patriam1066]

Texts show U.S. diplomats pushed Ukraine to investigate Biden and dangled a Trump visit. (https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-03/the-latest-texts-show-reactions-to-trump-demands-on-ukraine)

A cache of text messages were released late Thursday by House investigators following a 10-hour interview with one of the diplomats, Kurt Volker, who stepped down as special envoy to Ukraine amid the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry.

Volker, in a text message on the morning of a planned July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, wrote: “Heard from White House — Assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / 'get to the bottom of what happened' in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”

Finally, a reputable source from you. Pretty damning if true

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Don't worry. Someone will be along soon to say the source is probably written by the reanimated corpse of Chairman Mao and totally false.

[zodium]

Don't worry. Someone will be along soon to say the source is probably written by the reanimated corpse of Chairman Mao and totally false.

https://i.imgur.com/FuIKWiH.gif

[Horza]

Trump goes on rant about the U.K., Australia, and Italy plotting against him during the 2016 campaign. (https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1180145955636731904)

[Wonkie]

Chuck Grassley for Caretaker

mend this land

[Teppler]

45% is still an F

https://news.gallup.com/poll/150230/obama-job-approval-average-slides-new-low-11th-quarter.aspx

This is where Obama was 3 years into his presidency.

[Horza]

Senator Romney on Trump's foreign outreach: 'brazen', 'unprecedented', 'wrong,' and 'appalling.' (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/oct/04/trump-news-today-live-ukraine-china-texts-impeachment-latest-updates?page=with:block-5d9770298f084ab841732c63#block-5d9770298f084ab841732c63)

Here’s Romney’s statement in full: "When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated. By all appearances, the President’s brazen and unprecedented appeal to China and to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is wrong and appalling."

[Teppler]

Remember when the left used to tell us Romney was worse than the devil when he was running against Obama? I wonder what changed.

[Horza]

Romney is a piece of shit coward but his vote still counts in the Senate.

[Teppler]

You guys have a real great cast of characters on your side.

[Horza]

Senator Romney is a Republican.

[Teppler]

He’s an establishment elite just like the rest of the ones helping your little cause out. He’s your team through and through.

[Wonkie]

He’s an establishment elite just like the rest of the ones helping your little cause out. He’s your team through and through.

no true volksmann

[Horza]

A protester who called for Americans to 'eat the babies' to fight climate change was revealed as a member of a pro-Trump fringe group. (https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-group-behind-aoc-protester-calling-to-eat-babies-2019-10)

A protester disrupted a Thursday town hall held by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Queens, New York, yelling that Americans should "eat the babies" to reduce carbon emissions and fight climate change.

President Trump retweeted a video of the incident and called Ocasio-Cortez a "Wack Job." The president's eldest son tweeted that the woman "seems like a normal AOC supporter to me." But soon after a video of the incident went viral on Thursday night, a far-right pro-Trump group called the LaRouche movement announced on Twitter that it was behind the protester.

[feniin]

Teppler hates people when people follow the law and vote with their conscience (probably because it has the word science in it!).

Romney's politics aren't mine but I've never doubted he was a decent person. Can't say the same for Trump.

[Teppler]

You got me fenlin. Nailed it. I just can’t stand people who follow the law. That’s it exactly. I see the law and I feel like I must break it. That’s my thing. That is surely what I’m about.

[Wonkie]

A protester who called for Americans to 'eat the babies' to fight climate change was revealed as a member of a pro-Trump fringe group. (https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-group-behind-aoc-protester-calling-to-eat-babies-2019-10)

A protester disrupted a Thursday town hall held by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Queens, New York, yelling that Americans should "eat the babies" to reduce carbon emissions and fight climate change.

President Trump retweeted a video of the incident and called Ocasio-Cortez a "Wack Job." The president's eldest son tweeted that the woman "seems like a normal AOC supporter to me." But soon after a video of the incident went viral on Thursday night, a far-right pro-Trump group called the LaRouche movement announced on Twitter that it was behind the protester.

larouchites will straight beat you up don't mess with em. way older than trumpism tho

[Horza]

larouchites will straight beat you up don't mess with em. way older than trumpism tho

[Horza]

The Hill published a column by Eric Trump yesterday which quoted "the great Marcus Aurelius from The Gladiator," leading people to believe that the first-son does not realize that Aurelius was a real Roman emperor and not just a movie character. (https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/464256-eric-trump-hypocrisy-creates-unlevel-playing-field-in-politics)

[Teppler]

Very interesting read about facebook. I usually read these with a lot of skepticism but I think this one is legit. It's calling on a number of obscure facts I know to be true and also confirming some long term beliefs I had about Zuckerberg and the facebook project. I can usually find a big red flag in an article like this but I can't really find one here.

I could never feel truth from the original story Zuckerberg gave about facebook creation and we know why. It's utter horseshit.

https://aim4truth.org/2019/06/13/facebook-insider-confesses-all/

Reminder that CIA's lifelog project was officially cancelled the day facebook launched.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_LifeLog

"LifeLog aimed to compile a massive electronic database of every activity and relationship a person engages in."

[Horza]

Once again Teppler, your taste in wingnut conspiracy websites is simply exquisite.

ANCIENT OLIGARCH FAMILIES KEEP HUMANITY STEEPED IN RITUAL SIN AND MURDER. (https://aim4truth.org/2019/10/01/ancient-oligarch-families-keep-humanity-steeped-in-ritual-sin-and-murder/)

LENIN’S “BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION” IN 1917 WAS A PILGRIMS SOCIETY CRIMINAL OPERATION EXECUTED ON THE PAGES OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, DAILY TELEGRAPH, LONDON TIMES, DAILY MAIL, GUARDIAN—ALL FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE EMPIRE PRESS UNION (1909).

[Teppler]

Honestly, that looks like I could of written that fucking piece-

"This is one of the points I am most angry about. Mark has become, over the years, no friend of America. In fact, he hates America and rants on about how proud he is to avoid U. S. taxes and to cheat the American people – whom he considers to be animals."

[Horza]

The best conspiracy websites, I swear. (https://aim4truth.org/2019/08/18/cat-report-110/)

Many of you have begun to feel “the shift” and are experiencing the effects in your daily life. Years ago, we prepared a path to assist you in this human transformation. A great place to start is with your personal health as you clear, balance, and harmonize each of the chakra areas. We prepared a “diet” and a step-by-step plan of how this is achieved. We call this the ASCEND diet – Ascension Sacraments for the Cosmic and Earthly Nutrition Diet.

Please don’t be alarmed with the word “sacrament”. We aren’t some kind of Koo-laid cult. A sacrament is an offering to the spiritual world, which we hope everyone does through prayer, mediation, spiritual reading, and pursuit of a noble and moral life. Make each sacrament meaningful to you in your striving of higher knowledge.

[feniin]

Koo-laid

[Sonderbeast]

Growing up as a conservative christian the fact that people are still defending Trump blows my mind. Absolutely mind-blowing. This same shit wouldn't have been appropriate with the Bushes, or Reagan. It just goes to show you how much of a serious problem Fox's propaganda and the online right-wing outlets are so desperate to hold 'power'. Once the shit hits the fan, GOP is gonna be doing some major spinning and all the so called "Never trumpers" who were complicit the whole time will start coming out and drawing the line in the sand. My political system makes me sick. get me out.

[Zeboim]

I for one love the irony that the Christian Right sold their soul to Satan to abolish abortion.

[Teppler]

Look into 9/11. It was perpetrated part by people within our own government that have foreign allegiance. Look into the Dancing Israeli's that were arrested and were admitted to be mossad agents that were documenting the event and more.

google dancing israelis

[feniin]

Look into 9/11. It was perpetrated part by people within our own government that have foreign allegiance. Look into the Dancing Israeli's that were arrested and were admitted to be mossad agents that were documenting the event and more.

google dancing israelis

jfc. your brain really is broken.

[Teppler]

"Our purpose was to document the event"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyUoGUV7b8

[Canelek]

Pigs (Three Different Ones)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWLBtMz5OuY

[Domo]

I wonder why Teppler isnt working for the CIA, FBI, the Pentagon or something like that with all this wisdom and knowledge he has...

https://i.imgur.com/ZKnhU2S.jpg

[zodium]

TEOUM

[fortior]

turfnp

[Teppler]

Former Republican Elizabeth Warren raises less money than Bernie Sanders

Bernie - $25.3M
Warren - $24.6M

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/04/elizabeth-warren-third-quarter-fundraising-027426

Warren is totally going to break up those big businesses. Billionaires are totally supporting her to do that.

[Horza]

Fox News' Tucker Carlson turns on Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate political rival Joe Biden: ‘There’s no way to spin this.’ (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tucker-carlson-fox-news-biden-ukraine-phone-call-impeachment-a9143956.html)

Carlson, who is one of Fox News’ leading presenters, fell short of backing impeachment in an op-ed on Friday but admitted that Mr Trump should not have raised the prospect of an investigation into Mr. Biden and his son Hunter.

“Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden,” he said. “Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”

[Teppler]

The intelligence community(FBI, CIA, NSA) are practically a government within our government. They have no oversight basically.

One theory I've had for a long time is that Trump as president is useful to them. My first WTF was when they reopened the investigation into Hillary's emails like a week before the general election. That gave Trump a huge opening.

Why would the FBI time it that way for maximum damage to the Clinton's right before the general election after they just spent the whole election laying out the red carpet for her?

There wasn't much else evidence to go on at the time but since then Trump has been ineffective to do anything. Why? Leak after leak. BS scandal after bs scandal.

So let's count some things up.

Trump mired in scandals- ineffective executive branch
Establishment democrats/judges who get everything they want- bought off
The common people- non stop propaganda through facebook, media, school

When you combine these 3 things along with our intelligence agencies with no oversight what do you get? Foreign rule by foreign elites.

Look into the 'Mega group'. Not to be confused with MAGA.

[Horza]

House Democrats subpoena White House for Ukraine documents in impeachment inquiry. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-subpoena-white-house-documents-impeachment-investigation/story?id=66073486)

The subpoena, issued by the House Oversight Committee after the White House didn't meet the Friday deadline to turn over the requested records, also included information about millions of dollars in military aid withheld from Ukraine over the summer. Democrats are demanding White House compliance with the subpoena by Friday, Oct. 18, and said any refusal to turn over documents will inform their impeachment efforts.

"After nearly a month of stonewalling, it appears clear that the President has chosen the path of defiance, obstruction, and cover-up," Chairmen Elijah Cummings, D-Md., Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., wrote in their letter to the White House.

[Teppler]

The earliest political moves of the Mega group I know of is that they started infiltrating American politics and government since at least Bill Clinton's presidency. I suspect the Mega group executed a gradual internal coup and currently own our government. And Larouche group was telling us all about Jeffrey Epstein's Mossad "Mega Group" back in the late 90s and before and after 9/11:

Israeli Spies: 'Mega Was Not
an Agent; Mega Was the Boss'
by Jeffrey Steinberg
[PDF version of this article]

For a brief period of time in early 1997, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the National Security Agency engaged in a frantic mole hunt for an Israeli spy, believed to be operating inside the highest levels of the Clinton Administration national security establishment. By the time the mole hunt was made public--in a May 7, 1997 Washington Post leak--the hunt had been abruptly ended, and for all intents and purposes, the story disappeared from the news within a matter of days.

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

"The 'New Sanhedrin'
Bronfman's call for war was not just issued in his capacity as President of the WJC. It was issued on behalf of the Mega Group, a super-secret, by-invitation-only group of powerful American and Canadian "mega-billionaires," who meet behind closed doors twice a year, to set the overall policy for the "official" Israel Lobby in North America, and deploy billions of dollars a year in "charitable" cash (see EIR Aug. 31, 2001, "Israeli Spies: 'Mega Was Not An Agent—Mega Was lthe Boss' ").

Mega Group was launched in 1991 by Seagrams Corp. director Charles Bronfman and Victoria's Secret owner Leslie Wexner.

As EIR first reported Aug. 31, some Mega Group members are chary about flaunting their power in public. Charles Bronfman told the Wall Street Journal's Lisa Miller, "From the beginning, we didn't want to be seen as a threat to anybody... We don't want to be seen as the Sanhedrin (the highest court of the ancient Jews)."

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2844mega_sharon.html

[Horza]

larouchepub.com

Come on, you aren't even trying any longer.

Look into the 'Mega group'. Not to be confused with MAGA.

[Teppler]

Let us not argue. Simply name one other source that was calling out Jeffrey epstein as early as the late 90s

[Wonkie]

Let us not argue. Simply name one other source that was calling out Jeffrey epstein as early as the late 90s

sup with the queen

[Teppler]

Epstein is probably partying it up in Israel right now.

www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-israel-becoming-a-refuge-for-pedophiles-1.5420848

Jokes on the American public(again) and all those child victims that were diddled.

No justice will be seen just like 9/11. There will be no justice for the people who get brexit stolen too. I’ve seen this play before.

[Wonkie]

Epstein is probably partying it up in Israel right now.

www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-israel-becoming-a-refuge-for-pedophiles-1.5420848

Jokes on the American public(again) and all those child victims that were diddled.

No justice will be seen just like 9/11. There will be no justice for the people who get brexit stolen too. I’ve seen this play before.

Have you seen Into the Woods (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOv8OK2rE0)?

[Zeboim]

I'm growing increasingly convinced that Teppler posting is performance art.

[Horza]

Epstein is probably partying it up in Israel right now.

Epstein and Tupac are living it up with Biggie. #israel #disinfectedfortyphus

I'm growing increasingly convinced that Teppler posting is performance art.

It took you this long?

[Teppler]

I'm growing increasingly convinced that Teppler posting is performance art.

If you read the last 7 posts, sadly, I'm the only one talking politics in the politics thread.

[Teppler]

"According to the Post account, in January 1997, the National Security Agency (NSA) had intercepted a phone conversation between an Israeli official at the embassy in Washington, and Danny Yatom, the head of the Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence service. The official sought permission from the spy boss to "go to Mega" in order to obtain a copy of a confidential letter that had been sent by then-U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher to Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, concerning U.S. assurances about a recently negotiated agreement for an Israeli military withdrawal from the Hebron area in the West Bank. Yatom, according to the NSA intercept, rejected the request, admonishing his agent, "This is not something we use Mega for."

The idea that the Israeli government was running another spy operation inside the U.S. national security establishment created a tremendous stir. The Washington Post, in its May 7, 1997 leak, had reported, "One official with knowledge of the FBI investigation into the identity of Mega cautioned that much remained unknown. But the official said that if it turned out that a senior U.S. official was passing sensitive information to Israeli authorities, it could prove more serious than the espionage case involving Jonathan Jay Pollard, a former Navy analyst who was convicted in 1986 of selling U.S. military intelligence documents to Israel."

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

[Wonkie]

If you read the last 7 posts, sadly, I'm the only one talking politics in the politics thread.

posting copypasta about jews isn't talking, it's shitting.

[Horza]

The official sought permission from the spy boss to "go to Mega"

Alex Jones becomes a Super Saiyan. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs)

[Teppler]

Remember that Jeffrey Epstein was hanging out in the Clinton White House as early as 1993

"Given the seriousness of the Mega security breach, the abrupt shutdown of the mole hunt naturally prompted some wild speculation about the circumstances under which the search for Mega was abandoned. In March 1999, British author Gordon Thomas released a book, Gideon's Spies, which alleged that Israel had blackmailed the Clinton Administration, with the threat to release tapped telephone conversations between the President and Monica Lewinsky, to force Washington to abandon the Mega hunt. Indeed, in her testimony before independent counsel Kenneth Starr, Lewinsky had reported that the President had warned her, on March 29, 1997, at the height of the Mega hunt, that he suspected the White House telephones were being tapped by agents of an unnamed foreign country.

Years later, it was revealed that the White House communications system had been overhauled and modernized during the early Clinton era, and one of the main outside contractors involved in the project was an Israeli firm, Amdocs. According to a May 2000 story in Insight magazine, Amdocs employees would have had nearly unfettered access to White House telephone lines and other super-sensitive communications equipment. However, the nature of the request from the Mossad man in Washington to Yatom—to obtain a confidential State Department document—rules out the possibility that Mega was an electronic eavesdropping source."

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

[Wonkie]

Remember that Jeffrey Epstein was hanging out in the Clinton White House as early as 1993

"Given the seriousness of the Mega security breach, the abrupt shutdown of the mole hunt naturally prompted some wild speculation about the circumstances under which the search for Mega was abandoned. In March 1999, British author Gordon Thomas released a book, Gideon's Spies, which alleged that Israel had blackmailed the Clinton Administration, with the threat to release tapped telephone conversations between the President and Monica Lewinsky, to force Washington to abandon the Mega hunt. Indeed, in her testimony before independent counsel Kenneth Starr, Lewinsky had reported that the President had warned her, on March 29, 1997, at the height of the Mega hunt, that he suspected the White House telephones were being tapped by agents of an unnamed foreign country.

Years later, it was revealed that the White House communications system had been overhauled and modernized during the early Clinton era, and one of the main outside contractors involved in the project was an Israeli firm, Amdocs. According to a May 2000 story in Insight magazine, Amdocs employees would have had nearly unfettered access to White House telephone lines and other super-sensitive communications equipment. However, the nature of the request from the Mossad man in Washington to Yatom—to obtain a confidential State Department document—rules out the possibility that Mega was an electronic eavesdropping source."

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

anyway did you delete your torpor shaman yet like you said you was gonna?

[Teppler]

This is Nobel/Pulitzer worthy journalism Larouche group was doing, published 11 days before 9/11:

Israeli Spies: 'Mega Was Not
an Agent; Mega Was the Boss'
"there is a much simpler answer to the Mega puzzle: Mega was not a deep mole inside the White House. Mega was a far more visible, far more powerful entity, known among its several dozen members as "the Mega Group."

The existence of the Mega Group came to light, almost exactly a year after the Washington Post revealed that the mole hunt was under way. Yet, the story of the Mega Group, which appeared in the Wall Street Journal on May 4, 1998, made no mention of espionage, and did not mention the Mossad, the CIA, or Monica Lewinsky, even in passing. Despite that, the Mega Group precisely fits the story of the illusive mole hunt, in a manner that has profound policy implications to this day, as President George W. Bush struggles to avoid an outbreak of war in the Middle East, which would have devastating consequences for the entire planet.

Under the innocent headline, "Titans of Industry Join Forces To Work for Jewish Philanthropy," Wall Street Journal staff reporter Lisa Miller reported on an April 1998 gathering of some 20 Jewish billionaires, at the Manhattan apartment of hedge-fund manager Michael Steinhardt. That gathering involved some of the most powerful names in the Jewish lobby in America, starting with Edgar Bronfman, the chairman of the World Jewish Congress. Others included: Charles Bronfman, Edgar's brother and a top executive of the family's flagship Seagrams Corp.; Leslie Wexler of Limited, Inc.; Charles Schusterman, chairman of Samson Investment Co. of Tulsa, Oklahoma; Harvey "Bud" Meyerhoff, a fabulously wealthy and powerful Baltimore real estate magnate; Laurence Tisch, chairman of Loews Corp.; Max Fisher, the Detroit oil magnate and Republican Party powerhouse; bagel magnate Max Lender; and Leonard Abramson, the founder of U.S. Healthcare."

https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

[Horza]

I'm growing increasingly convinced that Teppler posting is performance art.

This is Nobel/Pulitzer worthy journalism Larouche group was doing, published 11 days before 9/11:

Are you not entertained?

[Teppler]

"According to the Journal account, the Mega Group was founded in 1991 by Wexler and Charles Bronfman, to add greater clout to the Israeli lobby, by establishing an informal, but all-powerful policymaking group, able to deploy billions of dollars in "charitable" funds for the maximum effect on U.S. policy toward Israel, the Mideast, and other issues of paramount importance to the Jewish megabillionaires. The Mega Group convenes twice a year, for two-day sessions, where, behind closed doors, the members make life-and-death decisions, affecting U.S. policy. Membership is by invitation only; the meetings are secret (the Wall Street Journal story was the only coverage to ever appear in the U.S. media about the existence of the Mega Group, before the publication of this EIR account); and the members each kick in $30,000 in annual dues, to cover "operating expenses" for the twice-yearly sessions.

Charles Bronfman reflected the Mega Group's propensity for secrecy, when he told the Journal's Lisa Miller, "From the beginning we didn't want to be seen as a threat to anybody. And that still pertains. We don't want to be seen as the Sanhedrin," a reference to the highest court of the ancient Jews. "We don't want to be looked at crooked." Charles' far more sinister and slick brother, Edgar, tried to dismiss the activities of the Mega Group, telling Miller, "We want to make it cool to be Jewish.""

[Teppler]

"The Power of Money
The Mega Group story came full circle on May 5, 2001, with the publication of a story in an obscure Israeli online publication, Media Monitors Network, by writer Israel Shamir. Shamir noted, with no lack of irony, the meeting of the Mega Group, which had taken place the previous day at the Manhattan mansion of Edgar Bronfman.

Shamir first described a meeting he had recently had with a Vermont-based psychoanalyst, the nephew of Israel's first Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion. The nephew prided himself on the fact that his closest friends were Palestinians, and that he rejected the idea of a Jewish "tribal" identity, preferring to view all human beings as brethren.

Shamir observed, "That is the last thing the bosses want. I would not be amazed if they discussed it yesterday, when they met in the Edgar Bronfman mansion in Manhattan. The head of the World Jewish Congress hosted a meeting of the 50 richest and most powerful Jews of the U.S. and Canada. There was no press coverage, no limelight, just a few lines in the newspapers.... They agreed to launch a PR program under the Orwellian codename of 'Truth' with the purpose of influencing American public opinion regarding Israeli policies."

Shamir continued, "The megabucks call themselves 'Mega group.'"

[Teppler]

Imagine writing this 11 days before 9/11:

"The Bronfman-centered Mega Group is but one component of an insane and desperate element within the transatlantic financial establishment that is now pressing for a "Clash of Civilizations," as a means of responding to the collapse of their global financial empire, and the threat of a new set of Eurasia-centered cooperative arrangements among nations supplanting their power. But, as far as the Mega puzzle is concerned, Shamir has solved the mystery.

No wonder Mossad boss Yatom scolded his Washington-based underling with the warning, "This is not something we use Mega for.""

[Zeboim]

Stop Tepp you're ruining the mystique by going too far.

[Domo]

If you read the last 7 posts, sadly, I'm the only one talking politics in the politics thread.[/url]

You said few days ago something like "Feel free to ignore me".
That was your best post so far.
I am ignoring you most of the time, simply because you are a waste of time. There is no way to debate with you. You talk like some cultist.

"ObAmA iS tHe AnTiChRiSt, hErE iS mY pRoVe; www,storys4idiots-whobelieveeverythinktheylike.com, www.foilhats4baldguys.com and www.factsareboring.com"

The sad part is, you seems not to even notice how stupid you sound most of the time.

Maybe you are only trolling, I dont know. But you are for sure a waste of time.

[Horza]

Stop Tepp you're ruining the mystique by going too far.

I'm starting to regret introducing him to the LaRouche movement.

Maybe you are only trolling, I dont know. But you are for sure a waste of time.

You know.

[Teppler]

Imagine knowing exactly who did 9/11 before the towers even collapsed:

"EIR Blows Israeli Spies' Cover in Sept. 11 Case

by Jeffrey Steinberg and Edward Spannaus - EIR

December 28, 2001

Years of tracking down an important set of drug-trafficking cases, led EIR investigators to what has now become a contender for the story of the new century: the investigation of connections between detained Israeli spies and the events of Sept. 11. The opening gun of this earth-shaking story, was EIR's own, Nov. 29, 2001 release, which was circulated to subscribers in the Dec. 4, 2001 Executive Alert Service.

To appreciate the significance of the EIR expose properly, it is crucial to first restate some essential features of Lyndon LaRouche's now-undisputable assessment of the events of Sept. 11, first aired on the Jack Stockwell radio show, as the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were still occurring. LaRouche stated that the New York and Washington attacks could not have occurred without the witting complicity of high-level "rogue elements" within the U.S. military-intelligence command structures. The actions of Sept. 11 constituted a coup d'état attempt against the Bush Administration, aimed at drawing the United States into precisely the kind of "Clash of Civilizations" Eurasian war, openly advocated by such individuals as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samuel Huntington, and Bush Administration "moles" like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle.

The Israeli government of Ariel Sharon and the present Israeli Defense Force command is the most significant asset of the Anglo-American faction pressing the "Clash of Civilizations" war-plan, as evidenced by Sharon's persistent efforts to provoke a new religious war in the Middle East against the Palestinian Authority and a range of other Arab targets."

http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/IsraeliSpyCoverBlown.html

[Teppler]

December 28, 2001

"Thus the events of Sept. 11 and the ongoing coup threat must be first understood from the standpoint of the interaction of these three elements: 1.) the as-yet unidentified rogue operators within the military-security command; 2.) the strategic policy figures promoting the new Eurasian Thirty Years War; and 3.) the Israeli apparatus of Sharon and the IDF.

It is the latter, the IDF, which, as part of its war aims, has carried out an aggressive espionage and covert operations penetration of the U.S.A., including the recruitment of American-born assets. It is so far unknown, but strongly suspected, that some of these Israeli assets may have contributed an included feature of the rogue networks whose complicity abetted the successful attacks of Sept. 11.

With that said, the story can be told."

[Teppler]

December 28, 2001

The Jones-Powell Exchange

That Executive Alert Service item of Dec. 4 reported, under the headline, "A Sharon spy network in the Americas?", that "A well-placed Washington source has alerted EIR that there is growing suspicion among U.S. government law enforcement and intelligence agencies that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has dispatched special operations teams into North America. The warning came in the context of a discussion about the recent deportation of five Israelis who were detained on Sept. 11 for suspicious behavior."

Since Secretary of State Colin Powell's answer to a question from EIR's Washington Bureau Chief Bill Jones, at a Dec. 13 special State Department briefing, the lid is off the Israeli spy scandal and suggestions of its links to the Sept. 11 irregular warfare attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon—despite desperate efforts at suppressing the Israeli spy story by most leading news media.

[Zeboim]

Tepp please, take your medicine.

[Horza]

The official sought permission from the spy boss to "go to Mega" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs)

[zodium]

it's capitalism bud

TROUEPL

[Teppler]

December 28, 2001

Where It Stands

"To summarize the EIR investigation as of this moment: The same billionaires' club, called "Mega," which was pointed to as the orchestrator of the 1997-99 operations against U.S. President Bill Clinton, is multiply linked to the authors of the current Israeli killing operations. It is situated in a network of U.S.A., Canada, Israeli, and other business organizations at the center of the Israeli military intelligence service's international operating capabilities. These businesses, like those involved in the Clinton White House message system scandal, represent wiretapping and other espionage capabilities beyond the means enjoyed by most leading governments.

These connections should have been shut down totally, even for no other reason than U.S. interest in protection of its citizens against foreign and other spying, and in the protection of the secrets of our sovereign government, and integrity of our intelligence and law-enforcement functions. While this Israeli-linked spying against the United States and its most sensitive military, intelligence, and law-enforcement agencies continues, the United States has no real national security. As long as this is not cleaned up, the drug-traffickers, including those tied to international terrorist operations, often have more authority in criminal matters than properly constituted law-enforcement and related official agencies."

[Teppler]

Now you know why our foreign policy is basically doing Israel's bidding and we send them 3.2 billion for nothing. There's more to look into as well but let's settle with this today.

[Horza]

North Korean envoy says nuclear talks with U.S. have broken down. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-05/n-korea-envoy-says-nuclear-talks-with-u-s-break-down-yonhap)

Working-level talks with the U.S. on denuclearization broke down after Washington arrived at the meetings “empty handed,” Kim Myong Gil, the top North Korean nuclear envoy, said in Stockholm, the South Korean Yonhap News Agency reported. North Korea tested a new, submarine-based ballistic missile on Wednesday, according to the official Korean News Agency, the longest-range weapon tested by Pyongyang since November 2017.

[zodium]

tired: these billionaires are conspiring against the people
wired: all billionaires are conspiring against the people
inspired: Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks.

[Teppler]

North Korea is one of the last places in the world without a Rothschild central bank. Watch how propaganda against it never ends(which people like Horza are accomplice to) until we go in and end up murdering a bunch of innocent people in foreign land so some bankers can have some more control and their shekel cut.

[Horza]

North Korea is one of the last places in the world without a Rothschild central bank. Watch how propaganda against it never ends(which people like Horza are accomplice to) until we go in and end up murdering a bunch of innocent people in foreign land so some bankers can have some more control and their shekel cut.

https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.gif

[Horza]

Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry. (https://www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html)

President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry — a call Trump claimed he didn’t even want to make.

The president's remarks suggest he may be seeking to distance himself from responsibility or recast the pretext for the call. Text messages released this week between Trump administration officials and Andrey Yermak, a top aide to Zelensky, suggest that Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, was a primary advocate for arranging the call.

[feniin]

North Korea is one of the last places in the world without a Rothschild central bank. Watch how propaganda against it never ends(which people like Horza are accomplice to) until we go in and end up murdering a bunch of innocent people in foreign land so some bankers can have some more control and their shekel cut.

We get it, Hippler. You don't like Jews.

[Zeboim]

Rick Perry getting thrown under the bus is a highlight of my week.

[Sonderbeast]

tired: these billionaires are conspiring against the people
wired: all billionaires are conspiring against the people
inspired: Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks.

Gat, you're a gem. I especially appreciate your devolving trump chant.

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.gif

If only

[Patriam1066]

Imagine writing this 11 days before 9/11:

"The Bronfman-centered Mega Group is but one component of an insane and desperate element within the transatlantic financial establishment that is now pressing for a "Clash of Civilizations," as a means of responding to the collapse of their global financial empire, and the threat of a new set of Eurasia-centered cooperative arrangements among nations supplanting their power. But, as far as the Mega puzzle is concerned, Shamir has solved the mystery.

No wonder Mossad boss Yatom scolded his Washington-based underling with the warning, "This is not something we use Mega for.""

Damn dude, do you live in a bunker?

[Sonderbeast]

North Korea is one of the last places in the world without a Rothschild central bank. Watch how propaganda against it never ends(which people like Horza are accomplice to) until we go in and end up murdering a bunch of innocent people in foreign land so some bankers can have some more control and their shekel cut.

I just want to say Tep, that I've been in your shoes before and I've come out the other end safely vaccinated. I know what you're going through, it's scary believing these giant monster institutions are bending power willfully in some sinister way, and that you are one of a select few who know the truth. But 2012 apocalypse never came, Nibiru was a hoax, and the 'rigged' election system somehow elected Trump. Start looking at your logic and the bigger picture closer and you'll see the holes in your own thinking eventually. Conspiracies are a trap, they isolate you, and play upon your own ego to make you feel special, when in fact you're the naiive idiot that you think everyone else is.

[Teppler]

Tough talk but someone like you would never go toe to toe with me on any political points. You’re missing multiple pieces. One of which is actually having a valid side to argue. So, definitely continue to attack my character. We both know you don’t have political points to express.

[Canelek]

lol

[Horza]

Second whistleblower comes forward after speaking with IG. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-whistleblower-forward-speaking-ig-attorney/story?id=66092396)

Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarm on President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and triggered an impeachment inquiry, tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.

Zaid tells ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos that the second person -- also described as an intelligence official -- has first-hand knowledge of some of the allegations outlined in the original complaint and has been interviewed by the head of the intelligence community's internal watchdog office, Michael Atkinson.

[zodium]

TUARM

[Wonkie]

TUARM

PETER!

https://i.imgur.com/7TLv6wl.jpg

[Horza]

'This is what we do.' Trump official Mike Pompeo suggest pressuring foreign leaders to investigate political rivals is normal. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mike-pompeo-ukraine-call-impeachment-joe-biden-zelensky-a9144701.html)

Mike Pompeo, the U.S. secretary of state, has not ruled out the possibility of Donald Trump pressuring other countries into helping him ahead of the 2020 election. The Trump administration official suggested the president's call with Ukraine's leader, in which Mr Trump encouraged the country’s leader to investigate his 2020 rival Joe Biden, was normal and dismissed concerns as “some silly gotcha game.”

[Zeboim]

Ah, you mean Mike 'Highest Donations from the Koch Brothers in Congress' Pompeo?

[Horza]

Trump on the MeToo generation: “Never ever call a woman beautiful. Please. You’re not allowed to do it.” (https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1180239493720346624)

[Horza]

Trump abandons allies, clears path for Turkish assault on Kurds in Syria. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/07/us-to-let-turkish-forces-move-into-syria-abandoning-kurdish-allies)

In an abrupt foreign policy shift that would leave American-backed Kurdish forces vulnerable, Donald Trump announced Sunday night that the U.S. military will withdraw from Syria in advance of a Turkish invasion. Lawmakers and commentators across the political spectrum condemned the move, which effectively clears the way for Erdogan to proceed with long-threatened plans to wipe out Kurdish fighters.

Trump defended the move Monday morning, tweeting that while the Kurdish forces fought alongside U.S. forces against ISIS, they were “paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so” and suggested that America had no responsibility to protect them. He also railed against “ridiculous Endless Wars” and blasted U.S. allies for treating America like a “sucker.”

[Zeboim]

Ha Ha, thanks for fighting and dying as our meatshields for almost two decades, suckers!

[Horza]

Donald Trump now accuses Nancy Pelosi of 'treason' (and wants to impeach her). (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/07/treason-trump-lashes-out-pelosi-and-wants-impeach-her/3896006002/)

"This makes Nervous Nancy every bit as guilty as Liddle’ Adam Schiff for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and even Treason," Trump tweeted late Sunday. "I guess that means that they, along with all of those that evilly 'Colluded' with them, must all be immediately Impeached!"

Members of Congress cannot be impeached. Impeachment is a tool that Congress uses to investigate judges or executive branch officials they believe may have committed crimes.

[feniin]

Don't let facts get in the way of spin, projection, a lack of intelligence, and no understanding of how our government works.

[Teppler]

Nancy Pelosi’s Son Paul Jr. Was Exec at ‘Ukraine-Based Gas Company,’ Similar to Hunter Biden https://www.waynedupree.com/paul-pelosi-jr-ukraine-gas-company/

What are so many establishment dems doing in the Ukraine exactly?

[Horza]

The unbiased reporting of waynedupree.com, courtesy of Hippler:

Christian Doctor Fired After Refusing to Call a 6-Foot-Tall Bearded Man ‘She' (https://www.waynedupree.com/dr-mackereth-transgender-fired/)

Hundreds of Young People Regret Gender Transition, Begging For Help to Change Back (https://www.waynedupree.com/transgender-regret-surgery/)

Hundreds of Excited Wyoming Residents Line Streets to Get a Peek at Beautiful Melania (https://www.waynedupree.com/melania-wyoming-boy-scouts/)

African Immigrant Asks if She Can Pray Over Trump in Magical Moment Our Media Will Never Show You (https://www.waynedupree.com/mahalet-young-black-leadership-summit-prayer/)

[Horza]

Turkey attacks Kurds and Syrian Democratic Forces in Iraq and Syria as U.S. withdraws. (https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Turkey-attacks-Kurds-SDF-in-Iraq-Syria-as-US-withdraws-604010)

Turkish forces carried out attacks against Kurdish forces and the anti-Assad Syrian Democratic Forces militia in Syria and Iraq near the Turkish border on Monday evening. Turkey will move forward with its long-planned military operation to create what it calls a "safe zone" in northern Syria and U.S. forces will not support or be involved in it, the White House press secretary announced early Monday morning.

The U.S. is just protecting its troops and is definitely not giving a "green light" to Turkey to kill Kurds, according to the official who stressed that President Donald Trump is prepared to "obliterate the economy of Turkey if they do."

[Canelek]

Nancy Pelosi’s Son Paul Jr. Was Exec at ‘Ukraine-Based Gas Company,’ Similar to Hunter Biden https://www.waynedupree.com/paul-pelosi-jr-ukraine-gas-company/

What are so many establishment dems doing in the Ukraine exactly?

Between you and the fire hydrant, what is the overall debate record this year?

[feverq]

Turkey attacks Kurds and Syrian Democratic Forces in Iraq and Syria as U.S. withdraws. (https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Turkey-attacks-Kurds-SDF-in-Iraq-Syria-as-US-withdraws-604010)

Turkish forces carried out attacks against Kurdish forces and the anti-Assad Syrian Democratic Forces militia in Syria and Iraq near the Turkish border on Monday evening. Turkey will move forward with its long-planned military operation to create what it calls a "safe zone" in northern Syria and U.S. forces will not support or be involved in it, the White House press secretary announced early Monday morning.

The U.S. is just protecting its troops and is definitely not giving a "green light" to Turkey to kill Kurds, according to the official who stressed that President Donald Trump is prepared to "obliterate the economy of Turkey if they do."

jpost? couldn't find a better source? I've never seen anyone else calling SDF "anti-Assad" or some other bullshit, but I guess israelis just like chaos in their neighborhood, like the time they sponsored various armed thugs in Daraa and Quneitra.

[Teppler]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/violent-crime-drops-trump-gets-no-credit.php

Crime down under Trump reversing trend under Obama.

[Teppler]

jpost? couldn't find a better source? I've never seen anyone else calling SDF "anti-Assad" or some other bullshit, but I guess israelis just like chaos in their neighborhood, like the time they sponsored various armed thugs in Daraa and Quneitra.

Inb4 you’re simply called an Semite and point dismissed.

[Horza]

Brutal new poll shows 3 in 10 Republicans support Trump impeachment push. (https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/870332/brutal-new-poll-shows-3-10-republicans-support-trump-impeachment-push)

A 58 percent majority of Americans say House Democrats were right to begin an impeachment inquiry of President Trump, and a 49 percent plurality say the House should vote to remove him from office, according to a Washington Post-Schar School poll released Tuesday morning.

There is a clear partisan split in the results, but 28 percent of Republicans said they support the House impeachment investigation — a 21-point jump from a Washington Post/ABC News poll in July.

[Zeboim]

I'm pretty sure neither side in this argument really cares much about the legitimacy of their sources.

Laroucheposting is definitely the lowest it's gone so far yet however.

[Horza]

I thought The Jerusalem Post was a decently reputable newspaper, but then Teppler explained how Jews are incapable of honesty.

[Horza]

Trump wishes Japanese Prime Minister Abe 'a very happy birthday' on the day of Putin's birth. (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/08/national/trump-wishes-abe-happy-birthday-day-putins-birth/)

“I want to start by wishing my very good friend, Prime Minister Abe of Japan, a very happy birthday,” Trump said, mispronouncing, as he often does, the Japanese leader’s name as “abby.” But there was just one problem — Abe’s birthday is on Sept. 21. Rather, Monday was the birthday of another leader often associated with Trump: Russian President Vladimir Putin.

[Wonkie]

Trump WH & DOJ:

--You can't indict a sitting president
--Therefore, you can't subpoena him for documents or compel him to testify to a GJ
--You also can't engage in congressional oversight bc that might be related to an indictment you can't bring
--Impeachment is unconstitutional

[Horza]

Bernie Sanders says he'll 'change the nature' of his campaign 'a bit' after appointment with his cardiologist. (https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-says-hell-scale-back-on-campaign-after-heart-attack-2019-10)

Senator Bernie Sanders said on Tuesday that he will cut back on the number of campaign events he does on a daily basis following an appointment with his cardiologist one week after suffering a heart attack. He insisted that he would continue "actively campaigning" this fall, but that he would scale back on the number of rallies he does daily from about four to two, in addition to other smaller events.

[Patriam1066]

Trump WH & DOJ:

--You can't indict a sitting president
--Therefore, you can't subpoena him for documents or compel him to testify to a GJ
--You also can't engage in congressional oversight bc that might be related to an indictment you can't bring
--Impeachment is unconstitutional

Rudy Giuliani

[Patriam1066]

I thought The Jerusalem Post was a decently reputable newspaper, but then Teppler explained how Jews are incapable of honesty.

Iran is legitimately more interested in stability than Israel. We just want the non Aryans to submit and pay taxes. We wear the purple, they wear sepia and brown.

[Horza]

Trump ally referred to impeachment as "regicide," and accused two whistleblowers who had raised alarms about Trump's conversations with Ukraine's president of being "suicide bombers." (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/465013-trump-defender-calls-impeachment-regicide-and-whistleblowers)

In an appearance on Fox News Tuesday night, Joe diGenova said: “These two nonentities are suicide bombers that the Democrats have unleashed on the democratic process,” diGenova said. "What you're seeing is regicide; this is regicide by another name: fake impeachment."

[zodium]

TRUEARG

[Horza]

Trump rants about Fox News poll numbers: "From the day I announced I was running for President, I have NEVER had a good @FoxNews Poll. Whoever their Pollster is, they suck. But @FoxNews is also much different than it used to be in the good old days." (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1182281834970980352)

[Canelek]

Private attorney for US President brokers shady deals with foreign nations at the behest of said President. I mean, odds were good that Giuliani would take down his own boss eventually, but they could have done a better job of obfuscating the part about a non-government official running point on this.

EDIT: forgot link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/two-business-associates-of-trumps-personal-lawyer-giuliani-have-been-arrested-and-are-in-custody/2019/10/10/9f9c101a-eb63-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html

'Associates' seems pretty apt here. Looking forward to see how Orange Pol Pot Twit-eacts to the arrests...

[Horza]

Turkish president Erdoğan threatens to send 3.6 million refugees to Europe. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/10/turkish-president-threatens-send-refugees-europe-recep-tayyip-erdogan-syria)

The Turkish president has threatened to “open the gates” for Syrian refugees in his country to migrate to Europe if the continent’s countries label Turkey’s military campaign in north-eastern Syria an “occupation.” As he spoke, Turkish warplanes and artillery continued to strike border towns in north-eastern Syria on Thursday, hours after its troops crossed into the region to wrest it from U.S.-backed Kurdish forces.

[Bazia]

turkey has been "tanking" undesired economic migrants for years on behalf of the EU, that was the entire reason they were even allowed to join

of course they are gonna retaliate if pressured

this is common knowledge

[Jimjam]

Wait, Turkey is in the EU now?

[Patriam1066]

Wait, Turkey is in the EU now?

No, and he also leaves out the billions Turkey is being paid to keep those migrants by the EU, which is actually why Erdogan is keeping them (as he siphons funds off the top)

[Horza]

Private attorney for US President brokers shady deals with foreign nations at the behest of said President. I mean, odds were good that Giuliani would take down his own boss eventually, but they could have done a better job of obfuscating the part about a non-government official running point on this.

EDIT: forgot link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/two-business-associates-of-trumps-personal-lawyer-giuliani-have-been-arrested-and-are-in-custody/2019/10/10/9f9c101a-eb63-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html

'Associates' seems pretty apt here. Looking forward to see how Orange Pol Pot Twit-eacts to the arrests...

Asked about two men with ties to Rudy Giuliani arrested earlier today, President Trump said, "I don't know those gentlemen. Now, it's possible I have a picture with them, because I have a picture with everybody." "Maybe they were clients of Rudy," he added. "You'd have to ask Rudy." (https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1182400090901639169)

[Bazia]

turks have visa-free travel through the EU, close enough

The early 2016 refugee deal between Turkey and the European Union was intended to accelerate negotiations after previous stagnation and allow visa-free travel through Europe for Turks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

[Swish]

Unfortunately for Turkey, their record on human rights is fairly shit both today and historically...some might argue that's based around a religious book but either way it's slowed down their membership.

Before Turkey became a nation state in itself, the Ottoman Empire took Europeans from around Croatia/Serbia/Bosnia as slaves around the 18th century...I don't think they ever apologized for it or have been asked to.

Meanwhile here in the UK, particularly in some cities...you can often find Turkish guys in bars "passport hunting", arguably they're the ones that want to get away from the shitstorm going down in Turkey - can't blame them.

[Canelek]

Asked about two men with ties to Rudy Giuliani arrested earlier today, President Trump said, "I don't know those gentlemen. Now, it's possible I have a picture with them, because I have a picture with everybody." "Maybe they were clients of Rudy," he added. "You'd have to ask Rudy." (https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1182400090901639169)

Trump is the perfect mix of habitual liar and doddering simpleton. And he sure loves to throw others under the bus. In all fairness though, Giuliani is such a piece of shit, literally throwing him under the bus would be quite entertaining.

Again though, we have this president of the United States (this nightmare doesn't seem to end) who has private citizens running matters of State.

If only Bitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and a baker's dozen other conservatives had backbones, this would have already been a done deal and that fuckwit president would be out of office, and likely facing federal charges.

But alas, here we are--doing it the hard wasy as usual.

[Horza]

Lindsey Graham dishes on Trump in hoax calls with Russians. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/10/lindsey-graham-trump-hoax-call-043991)

The substance of Graham’s conversation with Stolyarov, who was posing as Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar, is newly relevant in light of the South Carolina senator’s push for sanctions on Turkey as punishment for their offensive against the Kurds in northern Syria. Graham labeled the Kurds a “threat” to Turkey in the call, seemingly contradicting what he has said publicly in recent days.

“Everything I worried about has come true, and now we have to make sure Turkey is protected from this threat in Syria. I’m sympathetic to the YPG problem, and so is the president, quite frankly,” Graham told the pranksters.

[Baler]

Apple pulls Hong Kong app used by protesters after China warning

https://i.imgur.com/m1HdjDq.gif

[Zeboim]

Seems like they're just saying fuck it at this point.

[Horza]

Federal appeals court rules against President Donald Trump, orders financial records turned over to House. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/trump-mazars-appeal-decision/index.html)

In a 2-1 ruling, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld a lower court ruling saying the firm must turn over eight years of accounting records.

The opinion is a strong signal that the White House's letter earlier this week refusing to cooperate with the impeachment probe without a full House vote authorizing it would not hold up in court. The court specifically weighed in on this idea, writing it has "no authority" to require the House to take a full vote in support of a subpoena to investigate the President, citing the Constitution.

[Teppler]

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.

[zodium]

TREPUM

[Jimjam]

I disagree. That may be the USA's 'foundation myth' for its real entrance onto the world stage, finally being more than just an abandoned, rebellious sugar plantation colony.

[Horza]

Our foundation myth is all the way back in 1776, and your low-effort copypasta is terrible.

[Horza]

The White House accidentally sent talking points to House Democrats again. (https://theweek.com/speedreads/871264/white-house-seems-have-accidentally-sent-talking-points-house-democrats-again)

The White House on Friday sent around a list of talking points on Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine who testified before Congress as part of its impeachment inquiry. The only problem? The talking points may have also gone out to to House Democrats, ABC News' Ben Siegel reports.

[feniin]

Teppler probably also believes vaccines give you autism, the moon landing was faked, and the world is flat.

[Wonkie]

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.

Japan is an animist culture

Desu

[DMN]

Teppler probably also believes vaccines give you autism, the moon landing was faked, and the world is flat.

He's a typical lefty?

[feniin]

He's a typical lefty?

Sounds like an anti-science alt reichist like yourself

[Ripqozko]

God bless Trump, the best president we have ever had.

[Horza]

Trump freed the slaves.

[feniin]

Trump parted the Red Sea and crossed the Delaware.

[Wonkie]

Trump freed the slaves.

What kind of sLaVEs? H1b or agricultural?

[Horza]

Pentagon sends three thousand troops to Saudi Arabia even as Trump calls for ending wars. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/11/pentagon-troops-saudi-arabia-044502)

The Pentagon is sending a fresh wave of troops to Saudi Arabia to help defend the kingdom against Iran, despite President Donald Trump’s repeated pledges to end the U.S. military's commitments in the Middle East. The latest deployment, which includes two squadrons of fighter jets and three air-defense units, will bring to 3,000 the number of troops sent to Saudi Arabia since Iran attacked the kingdom’s oil infrastructure last month.

[Horza]

Turkey bombs U.S. special forces in Syria attack, apparently by mistake. (https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727)

A contingent of U.S. Special Forces was caught up in Turkish shelling against U.S.-backed Kurdish positions in northern Syria, days after President Donald Trump told his Turkish counterpart he would withdraw U.S. troops from certain positions in the area. A senior Pentagon official said shelling by the Turkish forces was so heavy that the U.S. personnel considered firing back in self-defense

[Horza]

Well well well. Eric Ciaramella. What a character.

https://i.imgur.com/0tSkixx.gif

[BallzDeep]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/protesters-burn-maga-hats-police-use-pepper-spray-in-tense-hours-after-donald-trump-rally-in-minneapolis/ar-AAIBWDY?ocid=spartanntp

"Around 10 p.m., a Washington Post national correspondent posted a video of protesters going after a man identified as a Nazi."

LOL

[BallzDeep]

I wonder if that was Horza's classification of a Nazi (anyone he disagrees with) or an actual person of the National Socialist Party?

[feniin]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/protesters-burn-maga-hats-police-use-pepper-spray-in-tense-hours-after-donald-trump-rally-in-minneapolis/ar-AAIBWDY?ocid=spartanntp

"Around 10 p.m., a Washington Post national correspondent posted a video of protesters going after a man identified as a Nazi."

LOL

I hope Teppler is safe.

[Canelek]

I hope Teppler is safe.


He can circus-seal through the adversity.

[Wonkie]

Stay safe Teppler ghost

[Canelek]

Ghost of circus seal antics and shenanigans, :D

[DMN]

Sounds like an anti-science alt reichist like yourself

LOL. I've got more degrees, certs, and awards in science than your whole inbred family has teeth.

[feniin]

LOL. I've got more degrees, certs, and awards in science than your whole inbred family has teeth.
[Insert Jennifer Lawrence yeah okay gif here]

[DMN]

[Insert Jennifer Lawrence yeah okay gif here]

You can't even post a fucking gif, even the most cringey copy and paste gif on these forums.

[Horza]

I wonder if that was Horza's classification of a Nazi (anyone he disagrees with) or an actual person of the National Socialist Party?

https://i.imgur.com/0tSkixx.gif

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/0tSkixx.gif

See, even this fucking troglodyte perma-virgin can gif.

[Horza]

See, even this fucking troglodyte perma-virgin can gif.

Stay classy.

[Madbad]

https://i.imgur.com/dQX7iRM.gif

[Madbad]

https://i.imgur.com/BxvCLhx.gif

[Horza]

President Trump won’t say if Giuliani is still his attorney: ‘Well, I don’t know.’ (https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1182769341105881089)

A day after two of Rudy Giuliani’s associates were arrested on campaign finance violations, President Donald Trump appeared to be at a loss for words Friday when asked whether the former New York mayor was still his personal attorney.

“Well, I don’t know. I haven’t spoken to Rudy,” Trump told reporters outside the White House. “I spoke to him yesterday briefly. He’s a very good attorney, and he has been my attorney, yeah, sure."

[Madbad]

https://i.imgur.com/IIzo7Wp.gif

[Madbad]

https://i.imgur.com/MFjC8Ie.gif

[Teppler]

I wonder if that was Horza's classification of a Nazi (anyone he disagrees with) or an actual person of the National Socialist Party?

Everyone he doesn't like is a nazi yet he denies the current projection about WW2 is the current foundation myth of our modern day society that he eats up.

These are the types of issues this fellow runs into if he takes a deeper look into anything. He won't explain any of positions because he looks like a bigger hypocrite every single time he goes further with an idea. Keep that RSS feed going Horza.

[Teppler]

Anyone see the CNN town hall?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaR-bH2hENM

They had to call Don Lemon out multiple times to calm this tranny down and they still give her a big round of applause at the end after she interrupted the mom and her own tranny child. What the fuck.

Anyone think we stay in power long term if these people inevitably get control again?

[Teppler]

All the clapping reminds me of this pic of Horza

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tc7QGFX1Cgw/maxresdefault.jpg

[zodium]

TRPEAM

[Teppler]

TRPEAM

https://i.ibb.co/nm5h2TB/trumpanime.jpg

[feniin]

You can't even post a fucking gif, even the most cringey copy and paste gif on these forums.

You are easily the most dense idiot I've ever encountered. Of course I can post a gif you knuckle dragging cousin fucker. It's not worth my time to search for one and host it on imgur from my phone just to reply to you. You knew exactly which gif it was and it got you to sperg out.

Can't wait for you and your mentally deficient red hat crew to fuck off and fade to irrelevance again. This anti-intellectual, white supremacist sub culture needs to be drowned out in every aspect of civilization.

[feniin]

Sorry I used strong words, DMN. Wouldn't want you to cry all day about it.

In other news, let's watch rats continue to abandon a sinking ship in this farcical, criminal administration. Let's watch as Trump continues to admit to breaking laws as The Senate does nothing. Who the fuck cares about laws and tradition if our side is "winning," amirite? What does Conservativism even mean if you don't care about the law and Constitution? Just that rich, white men have to remain as the sole power at all costs?

[Teppler]

One day I’m going to have a deep and long conversation with you fenlin. We will get to the bottom of how you are so backwards on so many things. Where do you live? Are you US citizen? What ethnicity?

[feniin]

One day I’m going to have a deep and long conversation with you fenlin. We will get to the bottom of how you are so backwards on so many things. Where do you live? Are you US citizen? What ethnicity?

Yeah, nah. Don't need to have an actual Nazi psychoanalyze me. You can just fuck right off with that business.

[Teppler]

Yeah, nah. Don't need to have an actual Nazi psychoanalyze me. You can just fuck right off with that business.

I’m really good at psychoanalyzing though. One of my many talents. Come on give it a shot.

[Patriam1066]

He’s a minority that isn’t of African descent from most probably Florida

Maybe Georgia

[feniin]

He’s a minority that isn’t of African descent from most probably Florida

Maybe Georgia

Half right ;)

[Teppler]

Whatever I’m already bored of you fenlin. On to the next topic.

You ever notice how most catholic priests have that thing in the western media where it’s often pushed that they are pedophiles?

And that school teachers are the hero’s of society.

Well much more school teachers fuck children than catholic priests. Check the stats.

Most priests I know are incredible people and literally do the lords work for free. Going to hospitals etc...

Ever wonder why catholic priest image in western media is a pedophilia but school and higher learner = the ultimate good?

[Wonkie]

One day I’m going to have a deep and long conversation with you fenlin. We will get to the bottom of how you are so backwards on so many things. Where do you live? Are you US citizen? What ethnicity?

I’m really good at psychoanalyzing though. One of my many talents. Come on give it a shot.

your idiolect is showing, doctor

[feniin]

he likes butts

[Teppler]

You spy boys sure have a lot of gay fantasies.

[Wonkie]

New ship: Teppler x Feniin ��❤️��

[Jimjam]

Sorry I used strong words, DMN. Wouldn't want you to cry all day about it.

In other news, let's watch rats continue to abandon a sinking ship in this farcical, criminal administration. Let's watch as Trump continues to admit to breaking laws as The Senate does nothing. Who the fuck cares about laws and tradition if our side is "winning," amirite? What does Conservativism even mean if you don't care about the law and Constitution? Just that rich, white men have to remain as the sole power at all costs?

Law is a tool of oppression, not accountability.

[Teppler]

Laws are societal agreements. Social compacts between parties and classes. We agree to lose some of our freedom for the safety and convenience rules provide for us. Some societies choose more or less rules and pros and cons that come with them.

[Teppler]

You spy boys sure have a lot of gay fantasies.

*soy boys, damn auto correct

[feniin]

Laws are societal agreements. Social compacts between parties and classes. We agree to lose some of our freedom for the safety and convenience rules provide for us. Some societies choose more or less rules and pros and cons that come with them.

Great. Thanks for defining what a law is.

Why is it okay for Republicans to ignore them completely when it suits them? Why do you support them doing so?

[Teppler]

Great. Thanks for defining what a law is.

Why is it okay for Republicans to ignore them completely when it suits them? Why do you support them doing so?

We need to have this talk. We’re going to go over the extreme high treasonous crimes of the left and what is happening to the country right now.

We can start with the fact that your side pushes for the massive extremely high scale crime of breaking down our borders with the wish for illegal immigrants to come in unfettered. That’s a crime and an extremely high treasonous one.

The act itself is a direct crime and it is continued every day that they are illegals in this country. And it has horrible horrible effect on our legal citizens.

We’ve had this discussion before though and you cry “what about humanitarianism?”.

That’s not an excuse to commit these high crimes against the state. And you accuse my side of ignoring law and order.

What you are missing is that the US has a responsibility to its own citizens first. You push for the law to be broken to get around that because you are deluded. We have citizens in this country that are legal that are suffering. It’s not right to give to strangers when your own family suffers. You have a duty and responsibility to those close to you first. Mexican government has a duty to the Mexican people. And you’re stopping them from holding that government from being accountable. Let the Mexican people rise up and fix their own state. Don’t push for the exploitation on all levels in America where you goad your side to ignore basic law.

And don’t try and bring up the argument that your side is law and order and mine isn’t again.

[Wonkie]

We need to have this talk. We’re going to go over the extreme high treasonous crimes of the left and what is happening to the country right now.

We can start with the fact that your side pushes for the massive extremely high scale crime of breaking down our borders with the wish for illegal immigrants to come in unfettered. That’s a crime and an extremely high treasonous one.

The act itself is a direct crime and it is continued every day that they are illegals in this country. And it has horrible horrible effect on our legal citizens.

We’ve had this discussion before though and you cry “what about humanitarianism?”.

That’s not an excuse to commit these high crimes against the state. And you accuse my side of ignoring law and order.

What you are missing is that the US has a responsibility to its own citizens first. You push for the law to be broken to get around that because you are deluded. We have citizens in this country that are legal that are suffering. It’s not right to give to strangers when your own family suffers. You have a duty and responsibility to those close to you first. Mexican government has a duty to the Mexican people. And you’re stopping them from holding that government from being accountable. Let the Mexican people rise up and fix their own state. Don’t push for the exploitation on all levels in America where you goad your side to ignore basic law.

And don’t try and bring up the argument that your side is law and order and mine isn’t again.


https://i.imgur.com/PW9280r.jpg

[Jimjam]

Great. Thanks for defining what a law is.

Why is it okay for Republicans to ignore them completely when it suits them? Why do you support them doing so?

Cos dems forgot to run fraps.

[Jimjam]

We need to have this talk. We’re going to go over the extreme high treasonous crimes of the left and what is happening to the country right now.

We can start with the fact that your side pushes for the massive extremely high scale crime of breaking down our borders with the wish for illegal immigrants to come in unfettered. That’s a crime and an extremely high treasonous one.

The act itself is a direct crime and it is continued every day that they are illegals in this country. And it has horrible horrible effect on our legal citizens.

We’ve had this discussion before though and you cry “what about humanitarianism?”.

That’s not an excuse to commit these high crimes against the state. And you accuse my side of ignoring law and order.

What you are missing is that the US has a responsibility to its own citizens first. You push for the law to be broken to get around that because you are deluded. We have citizens in this country that are legal that are suffering. It’s not right to give to strangers when your own family suffers. You have a duty and responsibility to those close to you first. Mexican government has a duty to the Mexican people. And you’re stopping them from holding that government from being accountable. Let the Mexican people rise up and fix their own state. Don’t push for the exploitation on all levels in America where you goad your side to ignore basic law.

And don’t try and bring up the argument that your side is law and order and mine isn’t again.America is a case study in how open borders and providing stretched humanitarian aid to migrants. A set of those migrants fled their own lands instead of fixing them, then have seized total power through shady deals and are pulling the ladder up behind them.

[Teppler]

America is a case study in how open borders and providing stretched humanitarian aid to migrants. A set of those migrants fled their own lands instead of fixing them, then have seized total power through shady deals and are pulling the ladder up behind them.

The case study on a small scale was already done. Rhodesia. I don’t see any reason why America won’t be any different. America is the golden calf for multicultural foreign elites to bleed dry before they move to the next place. Why would domestic laws and domestic integrity matter to international business people and bankers?

[feniin]

We need to have this talk. We’re going to go over the extreme high treasonous crimes of the left and what is happening to the country right now.

We can start with the fact that your side pushes for the massive extremely high scale crime of breaking down our borders with the wish for illegal immigrants to come in unfettered. That’s a crime and an extremely high treasonous one.

The act itself is a direct crime and it is continued every day that they are illegals in this country. And it has horrible horrible effect on our legal citizens.

We’ve had this discussion before though and you cry “what about humanitarianism?”.

That’s not an excuse to commit these high crimes against the state. And you accuse my side of ignoring law and order.

What you are missing is that the US has a responsibility to its own citizens first. You push for the law to be broken to get around that because you are deluded. We have citizens in this country that are legal that are suffering. It’s not right to give to strangers when your own family suffers. You have a duty and responsibility to those close to you first. Mexican government has a duty to the Mexican people. And you’re stopping them from holding that government from being accountable. Let the Mexican people rise up and fix their own state. Don’t push for the exploitation on all levels in America where you goad your side to ignore basic law.

And don’t try and bring up the argument that your side is law and order and mine isn’t again.
Your whataboutism isn't going to work here, Hippler. Trump admitted on live TV that he broke laws. He's been allowed to break the Emoluments Clause his entire time in office. He's covered up extensive sexual predation by members of his administration and covered up his own infidelity with illegal payments.

Why isn't Congress holding him to account for his actual crimes rather than imaginary ones you think the previous administration was guilty of?

[Jimjam]

The case study on a small scale was already done. Rhodesia. I don’t see any reason why America won’t be any different. America is the golden calf for multicultural foreign elites to bleed dry before they move to the next place. Why would domestic laws and domestic integrity matter to international business people and bankers?

Does the example you're thinking of also end in genocide?

[Horza]

The case study on a small scale was already done. Rhodesia. I don’t see any reason why America won’t be any different. America is the golden calf for multicultural foreign elites to bleed dry before they move to the next place. Why would domestic laws and domestic integrity matter to international business people and bankers?

https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.gif

[Teppler]

Does the example you're thinking of also end in genocide?

Do you know the story of Rhodesia? It’s now called Zimbabwe. When it was Rhodesia it was a thriving nation of white farmers with rich exports. One day they just decided to throw out the law. There are no farms in Zimbabwe anymore. Many white farmers were slaughtered on their own land. Their president goaded peasants to attack the farmers as they’ve stolen their land. Zimbabwe is now poor. The peasants failed to use the farm land they stole. Too low iq. Since then they’ve begged white farmers to come back many times.

[Teppler]

Your whataboutism isn't going to work here, Hippler. Trump admitted on live TV that he broke laws. He's been allowed to break the Emoluments Clause his entire time in office. He's covered up extensive sexual predation by members of his administration and covered up his own infidelity with illegal payments.

Why isn't Congress holding him to account for his actual crimes rather than imaginary ones you think the previous administration was guilty of?

Fenlin. I’m not talking about previous administration crimes. You and your people push the crime happening yesterday and today. You push for this type of lawlessness that’s happening right now and then have the balls to say my side isn’t law and order. Very typical though. If you are ever wondering what crime democrats are currently committing just see what they are projecting about.

[Wonkie]

rhodesia eh? i've seen this raw concern only once before

https://i.imgur.com/XyQaHlx.jpg

[Teppler]

rhodesia eh? i've seen this raw concern only once before

https://i.imgur.com/XyQaHlx.jpg

Another top notch analysis by our resident low iq commentator. :D are you minority wonkie?