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Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:07 PM

Of course the land grab and genocide i was thinking of happened a little earlier in history.

Do you know the story of Rhodesia? It’s now called Zimbabwe. When it was Rhodesia it was a thriving nation of white farmers with rich exports. One day they just decided to throw out the law. There are no farms in Zimbabwe anymore. Many white farmers were slaughtered on their own land. Their president goaded peasants to attack the farmers as they’ve stolen their land. Zimbabwe is now poor. The peasants failed to use the farm land they stole. Too low iq. Since then they’ve begged white farmers to come back many times.

I have various, but distant, connections to African heritage, and one of my father's cousins was killed in this way (workers aggressing land owners). I wouldn't want to comment further as I am far from informed on the matter, but you are of course welcome to continue to push your points. Its certainly not an issue personal to me, and i know you've advised posters keep their noses out of other people's business before.

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 02:07 PM

Another top notch analysis by our resident low iq commentator. :D are you minority wonkie?

im irish and swedish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QFAppht5o) according to the legends

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:08 PM

Isn’t it amazing with all the white privileged out there none of you have ever heard the story of Rhodesia?

Horza

10-12-2019, 02:10 PM

Pompeo refuses to say if he met with Giuliani in Warsaw. (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pompeo-giuliani-warsaw-interview)

In an interview with Nashville’s News4, Pompeo changed the subject every time reporter Nancy Amons asked him a question. When Amons prodded him on the text messages exchanged between Giuliani and state department officials, he lashed out.

"It sounds like you’re working at least in part for the Democratic National Committee," he said.

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 02:11 PM

Isn’t it amazing with all the white privileged out there none of you have ever heard the story of Rhodesia?

i said i've heard of it. you replied to me saying so. who's low iq now baby

Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:17 PM

im irish and swedish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QFAppht5o) according to the legends

I bet you can drunk like a seahorse.

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:19 PM

Wonkies got those cuck genetics. I’m sorry what’s happened to Sweden.

Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:19 PM

Funfact: the vikings would raid Ireland for slaves to sell to Constantinople. They'd sell the men and keep the women for themselves as wives.

I guess they liked the ice and fire complexion.

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:21 PM

Yeah, nah. Don't need to have an actual Nazi psychoanalyze me. You can just fuck right off with that business.

You obviously don't understand what a Nazi is. Look up the definition from any source. Then try to apply that to someone who lives in the US. They wouldn't be called a Nazi, they would be called a Nazi sympathizer. You would have to be a member of the Nationalist Socialist to be a Nazi.

Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:21 PM

Wonkies got those cuck genetics. I’m sorry what’s happened to Sweden.

Is this a reference to the islamic immigrants in Sweden? The vikings and islam go way back. They were affluent slave merchants and highly desired as bodyguards.

Who doesn't want a 6'4 giant thats got your back?!

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 02:21 PM

Funfact: the vikings would raid Ireland for slaves to sell to Constantinople. They'd sell the men and keep the women for themselves as wives.

I guess they liked the ice and fire complexion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_Guard

Horza

10-12-2019, 02:21 PM

Let me tell you about a man called Adolf, Wonkie.

Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:22 PM

You obviously don't understand what a Nazi is. Look up the definition from any source. Then try to apply that to someone who lives in the US. They wouldn't be called a Nazi, they would be called a Nazi sympathizer. You would have to be a member of the Nationalist Socialist to be a Nazi.

Are you gatekeeping being a Nazi?

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:25 PM

Imagine wonkies great great grandparents maybe hundreds of years ago. Vikings perhaps. Fighting hard for their genetics to survive. In harder times. Struggling. Their whole lineage leading up to this fucking dud of a human being. Sad.

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:26 PM

Are you gatekeeping being a Nazi?

No, sounds like you are. I think there is a common definition for Nazi that has been used widely for some time.

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 02:28 PM

Horza

10-12-2019, 02:28 PM

No, sounds like you are. I think there is a common definition for Nazi that has been used widely for some time.

How is he gatekeeping by applying the word to a greater number of people?

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:29 PM

If you were to ask and honestly I'm not even sure if Teppler would fit the idealism of white supremacy or racial division, but he might openly say yes. But since you guys are so shit with your generalizations, that you are just as bad.

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:32 PM

How is he gatekeeping by applying the word to a greater number of people?

By redefining the definition to fit anyone that isn't a Nazi, a Nazi by any similar ideal association. It's similar to you getting offended about everything you always complain about when someone would say well "That's gay or he's a f*g" even when they aren't a f*g.

The problem lies that yes, people say "He's a f*g" and then if you asked them honestly if the person was a f*g or they were just saying that. They will openly admit they were just saying that. When you guys say Nazi, you actually believe it.

Horza

10-12-2019, 02:33 PM

You forgot to asterisk out one of your slurs.

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:35 PM

I’m a nationalist not supremacist. Lefties always try to conflate the two as a tactic. Dishonest people. :( it’s the same reason they call everyone they don’t like nazis too.

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:35 PM

And obviously people are getting punched in the face and spit on because someone thinks they are a "Nazi" in the United States.

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 02:35 PM

And obviously people are getting punched in the face and spit on because someone thinks they are a "Nazi" in the United States.

assault is illegal

Horza

10-12-2019, 02:36 PM

Attorney General Bill Barr: (https://www.twitter.com/thehill/status/1182851865203105792) "Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values."

BallzDeep

10-12-2019, 02:36 PM

You forgot to asterisk out one of your slurs.

Sorry, I know your pretty sensitive so figured I'd block it out for you. I was worried if I posted it, you'd have to bring it up with your addiction and all.

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:39 PM

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.

Horza tried to pretend this isn’t true when he calls literally everyone he doesn’t like a nazi.

Jimjam

10-12-2019, 02:40 PM

repost; bin dun

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:45 PM

Teppler

10-12-2019, 02:54 PM

Shepard Smith rage quits Fox News after my dude Tucker fucked his shit up.

Rader

10-12-2019, 03:34 PM

You forgot to asterisk out one of your slurs.

LOL, <sniffle sniffle> did someone just violate your safe space boo hoo

Horza

10-12-2019, 03:50 PM

Shepard Smith rage quits Fox News after my dude Tucker fucked his shit up.

One day after Attorney General Barr met with Rupert Murdoch. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/us/politics/fox-news-poll-trump-impeachment.html)

Teppler

10-12-2019, 04:04 PM

LOL, <sniffle sniffle> did someone just violate your safe space boo hoo

Better watch out, he’s going to call you a Nazi soon. It’s like his ultimate go to.

zodium

10-12-2019, 05:00 PM

TRNUMP

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 05:31 PM

Better watch out, he’s going to call you a Nazi soon. It’s like his ultimate go to.

you are a nazi tho. the bullshit isn't effective when you're openly advocating nazi crap.

dino had more nuance and he was as dumb as i am.

Wonkie

10-12-2019, 05:36 PM

to that point here is one of my favorite memes

https://i.imgur.com/hGZtBRO.jpg

Horza

10-12-2019, 05:49 PM

you are a nazi tho. the bullshit isn't effective when you're openly advocating nazi crap.

dino had more nuance and he was as dumb as i am.

I highly doubt anyone was systematically killed. The US had concentration camps just like Germany for their foreign populations.

Any burning that happened had to do with disinfecting from typhus. Somehow that turned into propaganda about mass burnings alive.

#disinfectingfromtyphus

Canelek

10-12-2019, 07:22 PM

Nah, these aren't nazis, they are more like Patriot Prayer or Proudbois cockwits. Generally cowards and closet racists. Harmless alone, but aggressive in groups.

Not innovators or leaders, but they will adore any leader who shares their twisted logic. They deny racism exists, hear Spanish and mutter, "illegals", get super-mad at NFL player protests yet literally treat the US flag as clothing, think that 90% of global media outlets are "fake news", but will listen to any conspiracy theory while nodding and drooling.

Basically inept failures that can often be overheard starting conversations with, "I don't mean to seem racist, but..."

TL;DR

Cockwits

Rader

10-12-2019, 09:59 PM

feniin

10-12-2019, 10:12 PM

If only I had a shot of the good stuff for every time a butthurt libturd blubbered the word "racist" or "nazi"...

Did your inbred ass not read where Hippler was trying to tell us more about the finer aspects of Hitler and Nazism? And how the Holocaust was just propaganda? #disinfectingfromtyphus

Rader

10-12-2019, 10:14 PM

Canelek

10-12-2019, 10:26 PM

Easily triggered by words, apparently. Drink up Sputnik.

feniin

10-12-2019, 10:45 PM

One more shot down the hatch, thank you moronic libturd shill!

I wish you could read. This would be so much easier.

Horza

10-12-2019, 11:08 PM

Trump’s envoy who denied quid pro quo now says he isn’t certain. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-envoy-who-denied-quid-pro-quo-now-says-he-isnt-certain/2019/10/12/4abe0902-bc19-44e8-8c38-9aa35c544859_story.html)

The U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, intends to tell Congress this week that the content of a text message he wrote denying a quid pro quo with Ukraine was relayed to him directly by President Trump in a phone call, according to a person familiar with his testimony. Sondland plans to tell lawmakers he has no knowledge of whether the president was telling him the truth at that moment.

zodium

10-13-2019, 02:18 AM

nazis mad sad

TRAUMP

Teppler

10-13-2019, 09:18 AM

Did your inbred ass not read where Hippler was trying to tell us more about the finer aspects of Hitler and Nazism? And how the Holocaust was just propaganda? #disinfectingfromtyphus

Fenlin you support the international banker cabal that felt threatened by Hitlers interest free loan system. The same power structure that exists today to bully independent small nations trying to survive on their own.

The side you advocate for has fucked this world sideways on all levels. Countless hospitals, schools and brown children bombed in the name of this zionist banking and expansion that was sought to be thwarted in ww2. Hitler wanted nationalist nations surviving on their own, non exploitative banking and had a deep respect of animal rights. Yes the ultimate boogie man. Hah.

But I can’t blame you really fenlin. You revealed you’re a low iq minority. You’re doing your job which is exploiting America. You have it in the back of your head as an instinct. You’ll never make it on your own because you’re too low iq and stupid. Which country do your people come from? I guarantee they weren’t able to create a long term functioning society and I can tell this just based on the way you’ve argued things.

Teppler

10-13-2019, 09:19 AM

nazis mad sad

TRAUMP

You more than anyone should be look into what interest free banking was all about. You’ll learn why all modern day wars happen and why people are enslaved.

zodium

10-13-2019, 09:42 AM

You more than anyone should be look into what interest free banking was all about. You’ll learn why all modern day wars happen and why people are enslaved.

https://i.imgur.com/TnEP6kd.gif

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 11:38 AM

usury is one of those icky little tricks that make freedom possible

Teppler

10-13-2019, 11:42 AM

usury is one of those icky little tricks that make freedom possible

That’s so backwards to me. I would say usury is closer to slavery. Debt=you owe=you lose freedom. Just be being born an American citizen you are part of the debt of the country which is billions.

What’s your argument?

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 11:45 AM

That’s so backwards to me. I would say usury is closer to slavery. Debt=you owe=you lose freedom. Just be being born an American citizen you are part of the debt of the country which is billions.

What’s your argument?

what incentive is there to make loans if you lose value/gain nothing in doing so? interest is necessary to maintain relative wealth

it's good that people can buy cars and houses and shit

e: im about to get dogpiled :)

zodium

10-13-2019, 11:51 AM

TRZMP

Teppler

10-13-2019, 11:57 AM

what incentive is there to make loans if you lose value in doing so? interest is necessary to maintain relative wealth

In the history of the world, loans weren’t always for profit. This is what I’ve been trying to explain to you with world war 2. Germany went from ghetto nation to world super power by having a system where the state introduced interest free loans and they got away from bankers taking their cut. You want to talk about incentive. These bankers had incentive to shut this down. Financing the world is their giant power structure.

Think about what banking could be if it were simply a public service and not something for profit. Is that so hard? Like imagine if basic police or traffic lights were for profit. That wouldn’t be right.

Banking shouldn’t be a business. Many ancient religions try to tell us and warn of the danger of usury. We have to see why with our own mistakes apparently. There’s a reason in the Bible that god favors Abel and not Cain.

Horza

10-13-2019, 12:00 PM

U.S. troops withdraw from another Syrian town as Turkish forces cut off supply lines. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-troops-withdraw-from-another-syrian-town-as-turkish-forces-block-supply-lines/2019/10/13/aab5fab8-ec5a-11e9-a329-7378fbfa1b63_story.html)

U.S. troops withdrew Sunday from another town in Syria as Turkish-backed forces pushed deeper inside Syrian territory, seizing positions along a major highway that serves as the U.S. military’s main supply route and cutting off access to U.S. troops farther west, according to a U.S. official.

Turkish-backed rebels have set up checkpoints on the highway near Ain Issa, cutting off the U.S. troops in bases to the west, in the Syrian cities of Manbij and Kobane. Those troops came under Turkish artillery fire Friday night in what some U.S. soldiers suspect was a deliberate attempt to drive them away from the bulk of the U.S. forces farther east.

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 12:01 PM

In the history of the world, loans weren’t always for profit. This is what I’ve been trying to explain to you with world war 2. Germany went from ghetto nation to world super power by having a system where the state introduced interest free loans and they got away from bankers taking their cut. You want to talk about incentive. These bankers had incentive to shut this down. Financing the world is their giant power structure.

Think about what banking could be if it were simply a public service and not something for profit. Is that so hard? Like imagine if basic police or traffic lights were for profit. That wouldn’t be right.

Banking shouldn’t be a business. Many ancient religions try to tell us and warn of the danger of usury. We have to see why with our own mistakes apparently. There’s a reason in the Bible that god favors Abel and not Cain.

is there a word for when the state controls the economy?

Teppler

10-13-2019, 12:12 PM

Some people need some perspective on how much value is lost on society through bankers taking their cut.

We spend, as a country, almost 500 billion a year on interest payments on our debt which is power going directly to bankers from tax payers and what are they doing to earn this? This is furthering enslavement, every $1. Debt means we owe. They own part of you.

Our national defense budget(military, tech etc...)in its entirety is 700 billion a year for some more perspective. These international bankers get a cut like this from every country. The US is the biggest but theres a lot of countries.

Forget how powerful they are becoming and have become by amassing this wealth. Imagine if we could use 500 billion a year on improving our country every year. This is how Germany became a super power.

Zeboim

10-13-2019, 12:18 PM

You're absolutely right Teppler, let's abolish Capitalism.

Horza

10-13-2019, 12:30 PM

Fenlin you support the international banker cabal that felt threatened by Hitlers interest free loan system.

Countless hospitals, schools and brown children bombed in the name of this zionist banking and expansion that was sought to be thwarted in ww2. Hitler wanted nationalist nations surviving on their own, non exploitative banking and had a deep respect of animal rights. Yes the ultimate boogie man. Hah.

Which country do your people come from?

https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.gif

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 12:32 PM

credit availability is good though

Horza

10-13-2019, 12:41 PM

President Trump may have already lost Iowa and the rest of the midwest, but now he risks throwing the Senate into play. (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/13/iowa-trump-joni-ernst-senate-seat-unsteady)

Until last week, Senator Joni Ernst, a Republican from Iowa, was pretty safe, with high approval ratings and an ability to lie low in her re-election bid.

Trump’s trade war with China caused John Deere, the largest employer in Iowa, to cut production by 20% and lay off 160 workers. Crop markets are in disarray as China was the largest consumer of soybeans until that market was shut down. Farmers have been furious with Trump for waiving ethanol blending requirements, which the EPA has tried to smooth over with vague promises for the corn-based fuel.

zodium

10-13-2019, 12:42 PM

TRIMP

Teppler

10-13-2019, 12:48 PM

credit availability is good though

That’s not really an argument but ok I’ll take the position to argue against. Usury in its totality is blasphemy and we’re seeing the effect. It was one of God’s original laws and we might not have been able to see why clearly at first but it is definitely evil. This banking has led to horrible wars, death, destruction and imo limited humans progress.

However, interest free loans by the state can offer some flexibility for the people and doesn’t lead to banking domination and wars.

Did you know the US wasn’t always bankrupt? We didn’t always owe bankers.

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 01:00 PM

feniin

10-13-2019, 01:02 PM

You heard it here first, folks. Hippler wants National Socialism.

Horza

10-13-2019, 02:33 PM

Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Sunday that Turkey “appears to be” committing war crimes in its incursion into northern Syria. (https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/465564-esper-turkey-appears-to-be-committing-war-crimes-in-northern-syria)

“It appears to be,” Esper agreed on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday when host Margaret Brennan described some of Turkey's actions against Kurdish forces as war crimes, including footage appearing to show the summary execution of Kurdish captives.

“It’s a very terrible situation over there, a situation caused by the Turks. Despite our opposition, they decided to make this incursion,” Esper said. He also said officials need to "sort out" reports that Turkish forces attacked U.S. Special Forces in Syria.

Teppler

10-13-2019, 03:01 PM

owing a debt to the state is a million times more horrifying than owing to some company. There's no one to protect you from them.

Are you aware of how America was created?

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:16 PM

Are you aware of how America was created?

can you get to the point

Teppler

10-13-2019, 03:18 PM

This is why a lot of people value the 2nd amendment. Which should be obvious by now.

Society itself is a compact between government and the people. If the government steps out of line, it’s supposed to be the people with a well regulated militia that hold them accountable.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Guess which people want to totally disarm the public?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots." - Thomas Jefferson

The founding fathers warned us against being totally pussies and that freedom would not be peaceful to preserve.

Only when people have no weapons is the state very scary. To be a UK citizen should be terrifying because what recourse do the people have against anything their government says tomorrow?

Horza

10-13-2019, 03:19 PM

That’s not really an argument but ok I’ll take the position to argue against. Usury in its totality is blasphemy and we’re seeing the effect. It was one of God’s original laws and we might not have been able to see why clearly at first but it is definitely evil. This banking has led to horrible wars, death, destruction and imo limited humans progress.

However, interest free loans by the state can offer some flexibility for the people and doesn’t lead to banking domination and wars.

Did you know the US wasn’t always bankrupt? We didn’t always owe bankers.

God’s original laws:

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us–he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

"This is what the Lord Almighty says... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'" (Samuel 15:3)

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:21 PM

Guess which people want to totally disarm the public?

Nazis

Teppler

10-13-2019, 03:27 PM

Nazis

Exactly- in your fairytale of ww2 the story is the Germans were able to round up the Jews and walk them into death camps because the public was disarmed.

Horza

10-13-2019, 03:31 PM

Exactly- in your fairytale of ww2 the story is the Germans were able to round up the Jews and walk them into death camps because the public was disarmed.

The classic children's fairy tale of rounding up the Jews and walking them into death camps.

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:31 PM

Exactly- in your fairytale of ww2 the story is the Germans were able to round up the Jews and walk them into death camps because the public was disarmed.

That's not a fairytale though they really did a gun control

Jimjam

10-13-2019, 03:31 PM

owing a debt to the state is a million times more horrifying than owing to some company. There's no one to protect you from them.

This is how student loans work in the UK!

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:32 PM

Anyway Teppler changes his position every 3 posts so it's impossible to prove him wrong. He's an argument guerilla.

We are brothers

Jimjam

10-13-2019, 03:33 PM

can you get to the point

Parallels are drawn to the nation of Rhodesia.

Teppler

10-13-2019, 03:35 PM

That's not a fairytale though they really did a gun control

I mean you’re proving my point for me here.

I’m as consistent as they come tbqh

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:48 PM

I mean you’re proving my point for me here.

I’m as consistent as they come tbqh

I'm agreeing with you that gun grabbers, such as Nazis, are bad.

Teppler

10-13-2019, 03:55 PM

Wonkie I want to point this out. You go for the most retarded ‘gotchas’ I’ve ever seen. Like they aren’t even close to getting me. You’re trying to get me like I have viewpoints similar to Mitt Romney when I fucking him as much as any liberal.

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 03:58 PM

Horza

10-13-2019, 04:32 PM

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 04:36 PM

Which liberals are fucking Mitt Romney?

Mitt Romney is a liberal

Jimjam

10-13-2019, 05:02 PM

Which liberals are fucking Mitt Romney?

Mitt Romney is a liberal

Liberals are always being told to go fuck themself so I guess that makes sense.

Patriam1066

10-13-2019, 06:58 PM

My man buttigieg needs to step up his game. Grandma warren is not the leader of our time

Wonkie

10-13-2019, 07:34 PM

My man buttigieg needs to step up his game. Grandma warren is not the leader of our time

deep state patriam is in my email. i was just talking to my trumpian sister about how bad warren sucks. dems are trying to do the sassy abuela crap again, and of course, it's completely scripted.

https://i.imgur.com/55zj3GB.png

Patriam1066

10-13-2019, 10:30 PM

That klobuchar dyke is actually quite sensible. Trump delenda est

Horza

10-14-2019, 12:36 AM

Trump depicted as mass shooter killing various journalists and politicians during an event at his resort. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html)

A video depicting a macabre scene of a fake President Trump shooting, stabbing and brutally assaulting members of the news media and his political opponents was shown at a conference for his supporters at his Miami resort last week.

Several of Mr. Trump’s top surrogates — including his son Donald Trump Jr., his former spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders and the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis — were scheduled to speak at the three-day conference, which was held by a pro-Trump group, American Priority, at Trump National Doral Miami.

Here's the cringeworthy video. (https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1183552670738477056)

GhostCow

10-14-2019, 12:57 AM

That video is pretty cringe but I can't say I didn't enjoy it anyway

Wonkie

10-14-2019, 01:07 AM

what movie is that from? that's fucked up

Horza

10-14-2019, 01:17 AM

what movie is that from? that's fucked up

It's from one of the Kingsman movies.

Wonkie

10-14-2019, 01:21 AM

It's from one of the Kingsman movies.

You can just make a movie about shooting up a Church?

This offends me.

Horza

10-14-2019, 01:29 AM

You can just make a movie about shooting up a Church?

This offends me.

Samuel L. Jackson mind controls the congregation into rage zombies or some crap, it's not an amazing film.

Patriam1066

10-14-2019, 04:11 AM

You can just make a movie about shooting up a Church?

This offends me.

I hated the new joker movie. Everyone but me loved it and I had a hard time with the fact that people are ok with A) mental health issues being portrayed so negatively and B) harelip emaciated insane clown posse reject being so grotesquely violent in a COMICBOOK movie bound to be seen by tons of impressionable kids who, lets face it, are already being swayed towards hatred and violence by twitter and other bastions of imbecilic thought

feniin

10-14-2019, 04:34 AM

I thought you were a conservative, Patriam? Getting soft in your old age? God told me I can make fun of handicapped and mentally ill people as well as glorify all forms of violence so long as I don't use bad words or show a nipple.

Teppler

10-14-2019, 07:34 AM

I have reliable info that Obama was executed in gitmo over the weekend. Plz read

https://twitter.com/QuispMe/status/1180964483373518849?s=20

Jimjam

10-14-2019, 11:32 AM

Super is a great kids movie too!

Patriam1066

10-14-2019, 12:40 PM

Super is a great kids movie too!

Haha I didn’t say it was intended to be a kids movie, I just REALLY did not like the film. It’s not shocking to make a point, like eyes wide shut, it’s just garbage (other than the portrayal... it’s well acted by jewquin Phoenix)

Canelek

10-14-2019, 01:02 PM

Super is a great kids movie too!

The Rainn Wilson one? Oh totally. :D

I've not seen Joker yet. It looks interesting for sure. I'm a film dork, so it'll happen.

Horza

10-14-2019, 02:10 PM

I have reliable info that Obama was executed in gitmo over the weekend. Plz read

https://twitter.com/QuispMe/status/1180964483373518849?s=20

Totally reliable.

Horza

10-14-2019, 02:15 PM

Trump suggests Kurds are deliberately freeing Isis prisoners, after hundreds escape during Turkey bombing U.S. president suggests former allies he abandoned are trying to 'get us involved.' (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-kurds-isis-prisoners-turkey-syria-bombing-latest-erdogan-tweet-a9155051.html)

Hundreds of Isis militants and affiliates reportedly escaped from facilities during shelling over the weekend, and Trump said ”Europe had a chance to get their ISIS prisoners, but didn’t want the cost.” And the president used a 7:14am tweet to say, without providing evidence: “Kurds may be releasing some to get us involved. Easily recaptured by Turkey or European Nations from where many came, but they should move quickly.”

Horza

10-14-2019, 02:45 PM

Kurdish forces in north-east Syria have reached a deal with the Assad regime to stave off a bloody five-day-old Turkish assault. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/kurds-reach-deal-with-damascus-in-face-of-turkish-offensive)

Kurdish fighters controlling the region would surrender the border towns of Manbij and Kobane to Damascus in a deal brokered by Russia, officials said on Sunday night. Syrian state media said units from President Bashar al-Assad’s army were moving north to “confront Turkish aggression on Syrian territory.”

zodium

10-15-2019, 12:32 PM

TRUMOP

Horza

10-15-2019, 01:36 PM

Russian units have begun patrolling territory separating Turkish-backed Syrian rebels from the Syrian army around the town of Manbij in north-east Syria, in a clear sign that Moscow has become the de facto power broker in the region after the evacuation of U.S. troops. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/15/russian-troops-patrol-between-turkish-and-syrian-forces-on-border)

Despite the prospect of losing the area’s semi-autonomous status, Kurdish officials struck a Russian-brokered deal with Damascus on Sunday for reinforcements to protect Kurdish-held border positions. There are unconfirmed reports that talks are still under way to implement a Russian-enforced no-fly zone over the area.

Wonkie

10-15-2019, 02:26 PM

https://i.imgur.com/QdsaeRw.jpg

Canelek

10-15-2019, 02:34 PM

https://i.imgur.com/QdsaeRw.jpg

Man these goofballs Trump selected for his inner circle make great witnesses at some point. I think Trump's spirit animal is Captain Sobel from Band of Brothers, aside from the enlisted part.

http://i.imgur.com/84uyW5K.gif (https://imgur.com/84uyW5K)

Horza

10-15-2019, 04:31 PM

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo drops the n-word in radio interview. (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/465863-ny-gov-andrew-cuomo-uses-n-word-during-radio-interview)

Andrew Cuomo dropped the N-word during a discussion around discrimination against Italian Americans while quoting a recent New York Times op-ed on a radio show Tuesday. “Going back to the Italian Americans because now you have me. They used an expression that southern Italians were called quote-unquote, and pardon my language, but I’m just quoting The Times, n----r w--s. N-word wops as a derogatory comment,” he added.

Jimjam

10-15-2019, 04:33 PM

Whats the second bleeped word? 'Wigs'? Is it an offensive one?

feniin

10-15-2019, 04:35 PM

Literally says it in the next sentence...

Jimjam

10-15-2019, 04:44 PM

What even is a wop?!

Horza

10-15-2019, 04:47 PM

What even is a wop?!

Where did wop really come from? (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/wop-doesnt-mean-what-andrew-cuomo-thinks-it-means/558659/)

The best guess from etymologists is that the source is a southern Italian dialectal word, guappo or guappu, meaning “dandy” or “swaggerer.” That, in turn, is likely from the Spanish word guapo meaning “handsome” or “bold,” imported to Sicily when the island was occupied by Spain. Sicilian immigrants to the United States brought the swaggering word with them. It “connoted arrogance, bluster, and maleficence entwined,” wrote the music journalist Nick Tosches in his 2001 book Where Dead Voices Gather.

Jimjam

10-15-2019, 04:49 PM

So the spaniard from princess bride but more mafia?

Wonkie

10-15-2019, 04:49 PM

What even is a wop?!

a derogatory term for Italians, more usually Italian-Americans. it's not nice to say but I'm uncertain it counts as a slur.

you'd probably get punched though

Horza

10-15-2019, 04:53 PM

So the spaniard from princess bride but more mafia?

It was originally a slur for Sicilian gangsters that was applied to Italian immigrants in the States.

PieOats

10-15-2019, 04:57 PM

There's really only one slur,

NECKBEARD

*showers and brushes teeth and tongue too*

Zeboim

10-15-2019, 05:01 PM

At what point does a beard become a neckbeard and vice versa?

Wonkie

10-15-2019, 05:06 PM

https://i.imgur.com/WeZPekw.jpg

PieOats

10-15-2019, 05:24 PM

Wonkie, where did you find that ridiculous looking dogfox thing?

tsuchang

10-15-2019, 05:25 PM

Maybe it's White Over Powered.
Like white privilege?

Wonkie

10-15-2019, 05:38 PM

Wonkie, where did you find that ridiculous looking dogfox thing?

I was looking at fox pictures. I think it's called a Tibetan sand fox.

Zeboim

10-15-2019, 06:00 PM

It is, and they all look like that. Majestic creature.

feniin

10-15-2019, 06:15 PM

Maybe it's White Over Powered.
Like white privilege?

Wop is a pejorative slur for Italians or people of Italian descent.

I'm sure you already knew that, being one of the last remaining Trump supporters.

PieOats

10-15-2019, 06:21 PM

I was looking at fox pictures. I think it's called a Tibetan sand fox.

It is a fine animal, Wonkie. Were it more appropriately themed I too would adopt it as my avatar.

Horza

10-15-2019, 09:13 PM

That Ron Reagan Jr. commercial for atheism almost made the debate actually worth watching.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 11:19 AM

I'm sure you already knew that, being one of the last remaining Trump supporters.

You've literally talked to like 8 different people here who support Trump over a Democrat and the only people who are highly invested (yourself, Horza, Wonkie) and excessively post and you tell yourself you're the majority.

Just because you guys are more extreme than the Trump supporters and can't even admit it, doesn't mean people don't support him. and just because you, horza or wonkie are at the computer every day and spam these boards, doesn't make you any more of a majority.

I know your parents told you that shouting louder means your right but it doesn't.

zodium

10-16-2019, 11:23 AM

TTREOM

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 11:33 AM

You've literally talked to like 8 different people here who support Trump over a Democrat and the only people who are highly invested (yourself, Horza, Wonkie) and excessively post and you tell yourself you're the majority.

Just because you guys are more extreme than the Trump supporters and can't even admit it, doesn't mean people don't support him. and just because you, horza or wonkie are at the computer every day and spam these boards, doesn't make you any more of a majority.

I know your parents told you that shouting louder means your right but it doesn't.

Horza the libtard is trying to post shame us lmao

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 12:49 PM

Horza the libtard is trying to post shame us lmao

No, it's pointing out the hive mind from you. Even now, you have to say "Hey Horza, he's insulting both of us, us liberals need to fight together. My insults can't stand on their own."

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 01:26 PM

No, it's pointing out the hive mind from you. Even now, you have to say "Hey Horza, he's insulting both of us, us liberals need to fight together. My insults can't stand on their own."

what's that got to do with the fact that you're a libtard? :confused:

Horza

10-16-2019, 01:27 PM

Just because you guys are more extreme than the Trump supporters and can't even admit it, doesn't mean people don't support him. and just because you, horza or wonkie are at the computer every day and spam these boards, doesn't make you any more of a majority.

A majority of Americans says the Trump administration should cooperate with the impeachment inquiry. Twenty-nine percent of Americans describe the president's actions regarding Ukraine as proper and another 27% say they were still legal, if improper. Forty-four percent call the actions illegal. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-poll-partisans-dig-in-but-majority-say-trump-administration-should-cooperate-with-inquiry-cbs-news/)

Horza

10-16-2019, 01:32 PM

Donald Trump has described Kurds as "no angels" as he attempted to defend his decision to allow Turkey's offensive in Syria. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kurds-syria-turkey-isis-us-allies-sanctions-a9158626.html)

The comments from the president — who also said it was "fine" for Russia to assist Assad regime in the conflict — come despite Kurdish forces being longstanding allies of the U.S. who played a key role in the defeat of Isis. "They are no angels, by the way," Trump continued, referring to a group who have been bombarded since the U.S. pulled troops from northern Syria, allowing the Turkish offensive.

Horza

10-16-2019, 01:41 PM

A fourth Giuliani associate is arrested in New York City. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/16/giuliani-associate-arrest-probe-finance-048490)

David Correia, 44, was named in an indictment with two Giuliani associates and another man arrested last week on charges they made illegal contributions to politicians and a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump. Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, is Trump’s personal lawyer.

Canelek

10-16-2019, 02:17 PM

More "extreme" than trump supporters. Totally. David Duke may as well be a cabinet member.

KKK, neo-nazis, regular nazis, evangelical christians, patriot prayer, proud bois, holocaust deniers, anti-science, militia folks, polygamist sects, neo-fascists, aryan brotherhood, and quite a few more are all huge trump fans that we have been so lucky to be dealing with on a grander scale since dude took office.

Here is a larger list:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups

I didn't even touch on the conspiracy theory folks that teppler and other fringe-types subscribe to. Mainly because it is so otherworldly stupid; I mean, it makes the dey-gonna-take-away-our-guns and dey-gunna-turn-us-into-commie-socialists types seem totally rational and normal.

solleks

10-16-2019, 03:00 PM

KKK, neo-nazis, regular nazis, evangelical christians, patriot prayer, proud bois, holocaust deniers, anti-science, militia folks, polygamist sects, neo-fascists, aryan brotherhood, and quite a few more.

So basically most of the U.S. population, got it. And these bad man groups are all so bad because the tv and internet told you so, got it.

feniin

10-16-2019, 03:06 PM

So basically most of the U.S. population, got it. And these bad man groups are all so bad because the tv and internet told you so, got it.

If you think you and your racist friends are the majority... Wow.

Canelek

10-16-2019, 03:06 PM

Oh wow son, you already navigated that rabbit hole to bunker-land. How are the C02 levels down there?

solleks

10-16-2019, 03:08 PM

Bad man groups like Nazis, holocaust deniers, and the Aryan brotherhood aren't so bad, right?

So says a bunch of Jewish lawyers no one cares about

Horza

10-16-2019, 03:12 PM

So says a bunch of Jewish lawyers no one cares about

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:13 PM

what's that got to do with the fact that you're a libtard? :confused:

I would be confused too if I didn't know what people refer to as a libtard. In fact, I am confused since it appears you don't really know the use.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:16 PM

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:24 PM

And finally - Here is a piece from a left aligned website showing there was a Trump rally. The trump supporters had to deal with protestors. The protestors were liberal and throwing urine, spitting and beating people they "thought" were Nazi's or even Trump supporters. Yes, I would say with Antifa and some of the other stupid groups out there, violence is increasing on the left. Right does have hate groups as well but my specific point was to this forum. Horza and Wonkie are definitely more invested than anyone else here and uses disingenuous arguments to try to force people Trump is bad. To me, it's pot meet kettle. And if they are just trolls, then that would prove my point further.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/10/donald-trump-rally-sparks-tension-supporters-protesters/3940441002/

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:27 PM

Never seen so many shining beacons of light for anti-racism in my life. Feniin washes his colored with his whites when he is doing laundry and even samples BET from time to time.

Horza

10-16-2019, 03:32 PM

The rare quadruple rage post.

Most of those people openly have either supported Trump then disavowed at some point in time. Think Duke even endorsed Gabbard at some point in time. Does that make her a racist by association or?

Gabbard is a homophobe and an Assad apologist, I wouldn't be surprised if she was personally racist.

And finally - Here is a piece from a left aligned website showing there was a Trump rally.

...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/10/donald-trump-rally-sparks-tension-supporters-protesters/3940441002/

USA Today is not a left-leaning website.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:33 PM

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:35 PM

The rare quadruple rage post.

Gabbard is a homophobe and an Assad apologist, I wouldn't be surprised if she was personally racist.

USA Today is not a left-leaning website.

The SJWarrior that loves anger and wants to add some notches to his belt. Good to see.

feniin

10-16-2019, 03:37 PM

Never seen so many shining beacons of light for anti-racism in my life. Feniin washes his colored with his whites when he is doing laundry and even samples BET from time to time.

Do you really separate your laundry like it's the 50s?

Horza

10-16-2019, 03:37 PM

Never seen so many shining beacons of light for anti-racism in my life. Feniin washes his colored with his whites when he is doing laundry and even samples BET from time to time.

The SJWarrior that loves anger and wants to add some notches to his belt. Good to see.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 03:42 PM

You know what's funny is those are all things you say and I imagine you as that dude but probably more feminine.

Canelek

10-16-2019, 03:45 PM

Oh noes, anti-fascists are countering fascists. At least someone is doing it.

You boys are dumber than sacks of hair. Is it from the spray paint huffing or just plain fear of diversity?

Horza

10-16-2019, 03:46 PM

You know what's funny is those are all things you say and I imagine you as that dude but probably more feminine.

For sure, everyone that disagrees with your political views is womanly as hell. Not misogynistic at all.

Horza

10-16-2019, 04:01 PM

At a press conference today with the president of Italy, President Trump says Kurdish organization is “probably worse than ISIS.” (https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1184521200044793856)

During the conference with Sergio Mattarella, Trump repeated the lines of the Turkish government, accusing the Kurds of “not being angels.”

“The PKK,” Trump stated, “which is a part of the Kurds... is probably worse at terror, more of a terrorist threat in many ways, than ISIS." Later in the conference, Trump continued, “ISIS respects PKK” and said its a "semi-complicated, not too complicated if you're smart" issue.

Zeboim

10-16-2019, 04:05 PM

Anyone that supports Trump after this Syria debacle is incomprehensible to me. We have done the Kurds dirty before, but this is just too naked in its motivations and too incompetent to earn anything other than complete and total disdain.

feniin

10-16-2019, 04:10 PM

Horza

10-16-2019, 04:11 PM

Horza

10-16-2019, 05:31 PM

After Democratic leaders walked out of their meeting on Syria with Trump, Pelosi says they witnessed the president have "a meltdown." (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-angrily-walk-out-white-house-meeting-after-trump-meltdown-n1067716)

"What we witnessed on the part of the president was a meltdown. Sad to say," Pelosi told reporters outside the White House with House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. In the meeting, Trump said fewer than 100 ISIS prisoners have escaped. “The least dangerous” ones, he said, and "that there are communists involved and you guys might like that."

Zeboim

10-16-2019, 05:40 PM

Dude is leaning hard on the 'There is an extremist faction in this population of millions that is Communist, ergo they deserve genocide' argument.

PieOats

10-16-2019, 05:53 PM

Mods, please ban Teppler for poorly representing conservatism, Borza for poorly representing himself and everyone else for subjecting themselves to the exchange.

Wonkie, I want you to take Patriam as your wife and together build an ark to weather the cumming Storm.

Chortles Snort|eS

10-16-2019, 06:00 PM

me wonder if 40 virginS awaiting our neWLy banNed frenD

*NRO music playS*

RiP

Horza

10-16-2019, 06:04 PM

Dude is leaning hard on the 'There is an extremist faction in this population of millions that is Communist, ergo they deserve genocide' argument.

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 06:09 PM

I would be confused too if I didn't know what people refer to as a libtard. In fact, I am confused since it appears you don't really know the use.

do you believe in capitalism? congrats you're a libtard

Horza

10-16-2019, 06:28 PM

Newly uncovered tax documents show Trump kept 'two sets of books' and may have committed financial fraud. (https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies)

Newly uncovered tax documents from President Donald Trump that were obtained by ProPublica contain several inconsistencies that could point to financial fraud. A dozen real estate professionals told ProPublica they saw no clear explanation for multiple inconsistencies in the documents.

“It really feels like there’s two sets of books — a set of books for the tax guy and a set for the lender,” said Kevin Riordan, a financing expert and real estate professor at Montclair State University who reviewed the records. “It’s hard to argue numbers. That’s black and white.”

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 09:40 PM

For sure, everyone that disagrees with your political views is womanly as hell. Not misogynistic at all.

No, well... someone with feminine qualities would probably take it that way but no. You missed a key word again, I know this is very hard. I said I imagine. I know you have that disorder where you miss context but I'll make sure to point it out to you every time.

My assumption of you being feminine is because you conform to gender theory, obsessed with trans, your avatar, how often you are here, my opinion on the lack of your social life(based on your posting methods and youre here day in and out), and that you fit the profile of someone who either is a troll or feminine SJW with a sad existence. Nothing to do with misogyny, more just your representation of yourself here.

Just as you think I'm probably a racist redneck bigot. Hence where I can use the words imagine, and you dumb lefties can't. You think your world is the reality.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 09:42 PM

Pretty soon you'll be telling me that MS-13 was started by American citizens......wait.

Cecily

10-16-2019, 09:53 PM

Do an unfunny and uninteresting psych profile for me next.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 09:54 PM

Oh noes, anti-fascists are countering fascists. At least someone is doing it.

You boys are dumber than sacks of hair. Is it from the spray paint huffing or just plain fear of diversity?

George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'"

For example, it has been applied to Marxist regimes in Cuba under Fidel Castro and Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh

Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet Union during the Sino-Soviet Split, and likewise the Soviets used the term to denounce Chinese Marxists[67] and social democracy (coining a new term in "social fascism")

Just because it says Fascism is right-wing doesn't mean fascism is only right wing. Two things can be true at once. Sorry I have to clear this up for you.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 09:55 PM

Do an unfunny and uninteresting psych profile for me next.

No, your really not interesting at all. You already spill your life on these forums anyway and I'd venture to say most people don't care. Think it would just be left as a big ? since you still haven't even figured it out.

feniin

10-16-2019, 09:59 PM

George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'"

For example, it has been applied to Marxist regimes in Cuba under Fidel Castro and Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh

Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet Union during the Sino-Soviet Split, and likewise the Soviets used the term to denounce Chinese Marxists[67] and social democracy (coining a new term in "social fascism")

Just because it says Fascism is right-wing doesn't mean fascism is only right wing. Two things can be true at once. Sorry I have to clear this up for you.

Thanks for the copy pasta. Sorry you support demagogues.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:00 PM

Thanks for the copy pasta. Sorry you support demagogues.

Hey, I'd just be following suit of every comment you ever make. Funny, you use demagogue. Which by definition would be rational. What are some rational things you've added to this conversation so far? Please repost.

Cecily

10-16-2019, 10:00 PM

Does anyone really have it figured out?

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:04 PM

Hey, I'd just be following suit of every comment you ever make. Funny, you use demagogue. Which by definition would be rational. What are some rational things you've added to this conversation so far? Please repost.

Every single one of your posts is just impotent rage.

Horza

10-16-2019, 10:05 PM

My assumption of you being feminine is because you conform to gender theory, obsessed with trans, your avatar, how often you are here, my opinion on the lack of your social life(based on your posting methods and youre here day in and out), and that you fit the profile of someone who either is a troll or feminine SJW with a sad existence. Nothing to do with misogyny, more just your representation of yourself here.

The only one who keeps bringing up gender theory and trans stuff is you, and what's so feminine about my avatar? Because it's Japanese, or do you just think it's a womanly color scheme?

George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'"

George Orwell was a socialist.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:06 PM

More dead brown people is usually a plus for Trump supporters.

Rational or bigoted?

If you think you and your racist friends are the majority... Wow.

Rational or bigoted?

Teppler definitely doesn't have kids. He's not even allowed near children according to the court order.

Rational or bigoted?

Don't see a good case in your favor of why you'd be good to judge someone who is rational.

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:09 PM

Rational or bigoted?

Rational or bigoted?

Rational or bigoted?

Don't see a good case in your favor of why you'd be good to judge someone who is rational.

Impotent rage. Involuntarily celibate. Sad/Mad/Bad.

Horza

10-16-2019, 10:13 PM

Contrary to his supposed anti-socialism, Orwell actually took part in the revolutionary events which accompanied the Spanish Civil War, writing about it in his excellent book, Homage to Catalonia. In chapter one, he describes his experiences of Barcelona under workers’ control:

Practically every building of any size had been seized by the workers and was draped with red flags or with the red and black flag of the Anarchists; every wall was scrawled with the hammer and sickle and with the initials of the revolutionary parties… All this was queer and moving. There was much in it that I did not understand, in some ways I did not even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth fighting for.

The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.

Orwell follows a similar line of argument again in his 1941 essay ‘The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius:'

We cannot win the war without introducing Socialism, nor establish Socialism without winning the war... The difference between Socialism and capitalism is not primarily a difference of technique. One cannot simply change from one system to the other as one might install a new piece of machinery in a factory, and then carry on as before, with the same people in positions of control. Obviously there is also needed a complete shift of power. New blood, new men, new ideas – in the true sense of the word, a revolution.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:13 PM

The only one who keeps bringing up gender theory and trans stuff is you, and what's so feminine about my avatar? Because it's Japanese, or do you just think it's a womanly color scheme?

George Orwell was a socialist.

No kidding George Orwell was a socialist. That was the point. Even someone as a socialist is saying the word has no meaning. You idiots still think it does. It can apply to anyone trying to create an authoritarian government. That can be pressed on the idea of socialism or it can be pressed for Nationalism. They are almost one in the same.

I can pull all the posts about you decrying feminism, sexist, against LGBTQ or any other group when you don't actually know if they are or not. So by default, you are obsessed with assuming people are against race or sex for what? Do you have some disorder that if someone mentions sex or race you must be the SJW to call them a racist or sexist? Are you LGBTQ and want to stand up for them? Who choose you to judge whether someone is racist or not and what that line is? Curious minds would like to know otherwise ....I personally can hear someone negatively talk about a sex, race or anything else, even if it's my own race and I don't feel the need to correct them. You do. Why?

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 10:14 PM

Every single one of your posts is just impotent rage.

What do you expect from a libtard? :p

Horza

10-16-2019, 10:20 PM

No kidding George Orwell was a socialist. That was the point. Even someone as a socialist is saying the word has no meaning. You idiots still think it does. It can apply to anyone trying to create an authoritarian government. That can be pressed on the idea of socialism or it can be pressed for Nationalism. They are almost one in the same.

I can pull all the posts about you decrying feminism, sexist, against LGBTQ or any other group when you don't actually know if they are or not. So by default, you are obsessed with assuming people are against race or sex for what? Do you have some disorder that if someone mentions sex or race you must be the SJW to call them a racist or sexist? Are you LGBTQ and want to stand up for them? Who choose you to judge whether someone is racist or not and what that line is? Curious minds would like to know otherwise ....I personally can hear someone negatively talk about a sex, race or anything else, even if it's my own race and I don't feel the need to correct them. You do. Why?

Yes, language is fluid. Who cares what pejoratives people use to describe your reprehensible behavior and why does it matter if I'm LGBTQ?

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:20 PM

What do you expect from a libtard? :p

I wonder if you catch the irony of the definition of insanity and stupidity. You can post the same thing over and over, they aren't getting any funnier.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:22 PM

Yes, language is fluid. Who cares what pejoratives people use to describe your reprehensible behavior?

Nice deflect. Whenever you deflect, it's an obvious failure to come up with something rational. I don't care but again I ask why do you think you are the guy that needs to do it? The reason it matters if you are LGBTQ is I am wondering why you have declared yourself the white knight? I'm all for being an advocate if that is your origin or lifestyle but if you aren't.....How do I know you are representing correctly? And I know there are Trans here in this community. Are you telling me you know their experience more than them and you are the vocal voice? You can do whatever you want obviously but self reflection is key to progress.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:29 PM

And to answer on your avatar. It's the anime. I never was into it, think a lot of adult children watch anime and it's marketed for teens and children. My opinion is that most adult men that watch anime are either feminine or immature. That would probably compete for my love with video games but I enjoy games for competitive aspect, skill level and that you control it.

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:29 PM

Nice deflect. Whenever you deflect, it's an obvious failure to come up with something rational. I don't care but again I ask why do you think you are the guy that needs to do it? The reason it matters if you are LGBTQ is I am wondering why you have declared yourself the white knight? I'm all for being an advocate if that is your origin or lifestyle but if you aren't.....How do I know you are representing correctly? And I know there are Trans here in this community. Are you telling me you know their experience more than them and you are the vocal voice? You can do whatever you want obviously but self reflection is key to progress.

Splitting hairs to pretend you're not misogynistic, transphobic, and racist. Have some dignity like your boy Hippler.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:33 PM

Splitting hairs to pretend you're not misogynistic, transphobic, and racist. Have some dignity like your boy Hippler.

Yeah very. I don't communicate well with others. Don't work in a job that pays me 100K per year. Didn't just buy a home. Have 0 friends of any other ethnicity. Didn't grow up in Charlotte, NC.

I'd say youre the coward. Arguing disingenuously and can't find an argument to stand but to resort to trying to actually profile me. It's funny because Cecily's comment was profile me next but you guys already profile someone when they make one comment. "I support Trump." It isn't a profile either, it's fact. Dumbasses.

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 10:35 PM

I wonder if you catch the irony of the definition of insanity and stupidity. You can post the same thing over and over, they aren't getting any funnier.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedic_device#Repetition

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:35 PM

Yeah very. I don't communicate well with others. Don't work in a job that pays me 100K per year. Didn't just buy a home. Have 0 friends of any other ethnicity. Didn't grow up in Charlotte, NC.

I'd say youre the coward. Arguing disingenuously and can't find an argument to stand but to resort to trying to actually profile me. It's funny because Cecily's comment was profile me next but you guys already profile someone when they make one comment. "I support Trump." It isn't a profile either, it's fact. Dumbasses.

Yeah, okay.

Cecily

10-16-2019, 10:36 PM

It's an intelligence test at this point.

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 10:37 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG-kAHHUcAA-mSH?format=jpg&name=small

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:37 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedic_device#Repetition

You missed a big thing there though. It has to be funny first.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:41 PM

Wonkie - here is an example:

They say as you get older, you become more conservative.

They say as you make more money, you become more conservative.

Since your competency comes in at around age 8 and you're broke as shit, I can see why you vote liberal.

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 10:43 PM

You missed a big thing there though. It has to be funny first.

Everybody bombs sometimes

Wonkie - here is an example:

They say as you get older, you become more conservative.

They say as you make more money, you become more conservative.

Since your competency comes in at around age 8 and you're broke as shit, I can see why you vote liberal.

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:47 PM

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:49 PM

Yikes. Cringey as fuck.

Why is it that all the red hats try to infer what other people make? Insecurities?

You must be stupid as hell. Literally scroll up and read the context of the whole conversation and then look up irony. I'm obviously joking you dimwit. This is the point where even if I was a liberal I'd want you to shut up.

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:52 PM

You must be stupid as hell. Literally scroll up and read the context of the whole conversation and then look up irony. I'm obviously joking you dimwit. This is the point where even if I was a liberal I'd want you to shut up.

It would help if you understood anything about comedy or wit. :o

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:54 PM

It would help if you understood anything about comedy or wit. :o

What was the joke in your sentence? I'm missing it? Are you just trolling or something? If so, that wouldn't fit your narrative for your long history of posting on the topic.

feniin

10-16-2019, 10:56 PM

What was the joke in your sentence? I'm missing it? Are you just trolling or something? If so, that wouldn't fit your narrative for your long history of posting on the topic.

I don't believe I ever claimed to be on topic in Off Topic.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 10:58 PM

I don't believe I ever claimed to be on topic in Off Topic.

Is that another dad joke or something? Either way.....don't think that joke hit hard with anyone.

feniin

10-16-2019, 11:03 PM

Is that another dad joke or something? Either way.....don't think that joke hit hard with anyone.

I think you're misinterpreting my tone. I wasn't joking with you. I was stating a fact. You're not good at being clever, funny, or satirical. You're far too closed minded for that.

BallzDeep

10-16-2019, 11:06 PM

I think you're misinterpreting my tone. I wasn't joking with you. I was stating a fact. You're not good at being clever, funny, or satirical. You're far too closed minded for that.

No, I've got your tone. You were stating a fact and being serious. I came back with something that made you look stupid. You still probably don't get it and come back with another assertion that I'm closed minded. I tell you that there is this thing called irony. I say I've come here and talked with everyone and only imagined what their opinions are, who they are and what they look like in both an opinionated and joking manner. I'm open to admitting that and that it probably isn't reality. I've just established that you already have openly said Trump supporters are racist and all this random shit. You establish that as soon as they say "I'm a Trump supporter." You are a close minded bigot. Now look up irony dumbass.

Wonkie

10-16-2019, 11:15 PM

https://youtu.be/a2krXq8fw90

feniin

10-16-2019, 11:33 PM

No, I've got your tone. You were stating a fact and being serious. I came back with something that made you look stupid. You still probably don't get it and come back with another assertion that I'm closed minded. I tell you that there is this thing called irony. I say I've come here and talked with everyone and only imagined what their opinions are, who they are and what they look like in both an opinionated and joking manner. I'm open to admitting that and that it probably isn't reality. I've just established that you already have openly said Trump supporters are racist and all this random shit. You establish that as soon as they say "I'm a Trump supporter." You are a close minded bigot. Now look up irony dumbass.

Yikes again.

Canelek

10-16-2019, 11:53 PM

Zeboim

10-16-2019, 11:54 PM

BallzDeep

10-17-2019, 12:14 AM

Wow, do better at gaslighting.

And yeah, you are indeed a bigot and idiot. In this you are correct: Trump supporters are idiots and bigots. So, thanks for the clarification.

PS: Can you make your mouth go like this: 'O' ?

Cool

I'll help you for rationality sake since that seems to be your big shtick with Trump.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Incoming weird comment with an emoji...very intimidating and great use of intellect.

idiot: a stupid person.

Can't comprehend standard definitions, applies his definitions as the rule, bigoted towards Trump supporters.....Your mind is more closed than Chick-fil-a on a Sunday.

BallzDeep

10-17-2019, 12:30 AM

Still waiting for a MAGA chud to defend Trump's actions in Syria as anything but craven betrayal of one of our most effective and loyal allies in the last 2 decades. It's not even about 'Get us out of foreign wars', considering that it has destabilized the region, we've dispatched troops to Saud preparing for the showdown with Iran, and is fomenting a genocide/handing the region to the Russia-Iran-Syria axis on a silver, oil pipeline plated platter.

I don't know, neither you nor I am qualified to make that decision. I haven't really read up on it lately. Trump cites his reason as "They have a problem with Turkey. They have a problem at a border. It's not our border. We shouldn't be losing lives over it."

The U.S. military posture in the Middle East has always been predicated on deterrence, not defense. But deterrence has taken a huge hit because of the string of presumably Iranian attacks leading to the one on Abqaiq last month. So the million-dollar question that U.S. Central Command is wrestling with is how the United States can restore deterrence in the Middle East.

There is too much that policy between nations that neither of us have any idea about. Funding, trade deals, etc. I highly doubt Trump sitting in his chair and single handed decided to pull out. It came on recommendation by an official. The official reviewed policy, finances, projections and came to a decision. Not saying it's the right one but I'd say ABC news, you and me don't know better.

Wonkie

10-17-2019, 12:31 AM

��if you want to win a vote scratch a bigots itch��

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BallzDeep

10-17-2019, 12:32 AM

��if you want to win a vote scratch a bigots itch��

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Yeah but I leave for like a week and go do shit. You don't.

Wonkie

10-17-2019, 12:36 AM

Yeah but I leave for like a week and go do shit. You don't.

that wasn't directed at you. Guilty conscience much?

BallzDeep

10-17-2019, 12:38 AM

that wasn't directed at you. Guilty conscience much?

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if it was, you guys are known for bandwagoning. Whereas there are conservatives (a lot here) even I don't agree with.

Baler

10-17-2019, 12:39 AM

https://i.imgur.com/4sdDAsY.png

Getting my money's worth out of this image.

Wonkie

10-17-2019, 12:39 AM

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if it was, you guys are known for bandwagoning. Whereas there are conservatives (a lot here) even I don't agree with.

i don't actually know if you're a bigot cuz I skim your posts (:

Baler

10-17-2019, 12:40 AM

i don't actually know if you're a bigot cuz I skim your posts (:

Wonkie is like santa claus. He's keeping a list, checking it twice. Gunna find out who's naughty or nice.

Wonkie

10-17-2019, 12:41 AM

https://i.imgur.com/4sdDAsY.png

Getting my money's worth out of this image.

kickass avatar change Baler kun! :)

Bazia

10-17-2019, 12:41 AM

our most trusted allies

the fucking kurds

who were an alliance of convenience when we supplied them weapons to retake their own towns back from ISIS

ISIS is dead they have their towns back

why is it some kid from kansas needs to patrol and protect communist arabs that are also fanatical backward Sunnis?

oh yes we owe them a HUGE debt for reclaiming THEIR homes back from ISIS with OUR support because that totally did a ton for america

kurds are a vassal entity used to disrupt geopolitical rivals of israel and nothing else

israel (biggest lobby in the world) shills are the only one who gives a single fuck about the kurds because they are a useful political tool to justify israel bombing neighbors ("We're helping duh kurds! We have to bomb our rivals! they were mean to duh kurds!" *continues to genocide palestinians*)

A FUCKING JOKE

Baler

10-17-2019, 12:49 AM

kickass avatar change Baler kun! :)

I like your Tibetan Fox Wonkie san :)
The way they hunt their prey is awesome.

Canelek

10-17-2019, 12:49 AM

I'll help you for rationality sake since that seems to be your big shtick with Trump.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Incoming weird comment with an emoji...very intimidating and great use of intellect.

idiot: a stupid person.

Can't comprehend standard definitions, applies his definitions as the rule, bigoted towards Trump supporters.....Your mind is more closed than Chick-fil-a on a Sunday.

Holy shitbats, do you do birthday parties too?

Edit: Oh, and can you make your mouth go like this then? { }

Horza

10-17-2019, 01:08 AM

kurds are a vassal entity used to disrupt geopolitical rivals of israel and nothing else

israel (biggest lobby in the world) shills are the only one who gives a single fuck about the kurds because they are a useful political tool to justify israel bombing neighbors ("We're helping duh kurds! We have to bomb our rivals! they were mean to duh kurds!" *continues to genocide palestinians*)

This is how forty percent of the electorate views our long-standing allies. Anti-semitism is a helluva drug.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 01:18 AM

This is how forty percent of the electorate views our long-standing allies. Anti-semitism is a helluva drug.

yes our beloved allies who bomb their arab neighbors for "abusing" ethnic kurds within their countries while simultaneously and hypocritically genociding the ethnic palestinians within their own country

guess it's racist to notice the israelis arent very good people, you sound exactly like donald trump when he called ilhan omar and other democrats who called out israel and their lobby AIPAC for war mongering against arabs anti-semitic

congrats you agree with donald trump!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162000480681287683

Horza

10-17-2019, 01:31 AM

I was referring to the Kurds, fuck Israel.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 01:34 AM

I was referring to the Kurds, fuck Israel.

kurds are barbaric sunni muslim arabs (the stone women in the street for reading and throwing gays from rooftops type) that live in the mountains of northern syria, you tell me why 20 y/o AMERICANS should risk death in service of them

most are illiterate and are barely even aware of what or where america even is by the way

even if they did understand american culture they as sunni muslims they would condemn us and consider us infidels worthy of death and conquest

Horza

10-17-2019, 01:42 AM

You're really dialing up the racism with that edit.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 01:44 AM

You're really dialing up the racism with that edit.

anyone adhering to sunni islam is a barbarian by any western world standard

it's convenient everyone you disagree with is a racist isn't it? that way you never have to develop a competent counter point

you can just yell "WITCH!" like a salem puritan

Wonkie

10-17-2019, 01:47 AM

anyone adhering to sunni islam is a barbarian by any western world standard

i hear most of those dudes are beastlords if u know whot i mean ;)

Bazia

10-17-2019, 01:48 AM

i hear most of those dudes are beastlords if u know whot i mean ;)

based and goat-pilled

Horza

10-17-2019, 01:55 AM

anyone adhering to sunni islam is a barbarian by any western world standard

it's convenient everyone you disagree with is a racist isn't it? that way you never have to develop a competent counter point

you can just yell "WITCH!" like a salem puritan

I disagree with lots of people who aren't racist, I don't even like superhero movies.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 01:58 AM

I disagree with lots of people who aren't racist, I don't even like superhero movies.

okay then instead of relying on this insult answer the original question, why should american 20 y/o service member risk death in service to backwards sunni muslim mountain people who by the way as sunni muslims hate western culture and consider it heretical

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:02 AM

or even whats so good about kurds? what have they done for america?

or do you just care about them because every media mouthpiece both left and right (same owners) told you that you should and you can't be bothered to be informed so you just regurgitate the shit you saw on day time TV or cable news

Horza

10-17-2019, 02:09 AM

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:10 AM

It's not like they defeated ISIS for us.

the complete defeat of ISIS was a coalition effort one of which the kurds had likely the smallest contributions of all particpants, all the Kurds did specifically was wrestle back control of their own towns and villages with massive support from the US, so if anything they owe US a favor not the other way around

so try again bud, and remember the whole "murdering gays and beating women for reading" sunni muslim stuff

Horza

10-17-2019, 02:16 AM

Hundreds of ISIS prisoners are escaping from camps in northern Syria amid Turkish offensive. (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/isis-prisoners-are-escaping-from-camps-in-syria-amid-turkish-offensive.html)

More than 800 suspected IS detainees escaped the Ayn Issa camp in northern Syria on Sunday, Kurdish forces said in a statement, five days into Turkey’s military incursion into norther Syria. At least 10,000 Islamic State prisoners are in camps across northeastern Syria, according to Kurdish and U.S. officials.

Jimjam

10-17-2019, 02:23 AM

The last few pages of bickering with no political content has made me bigoted against Americans.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:24 AM

turkey can handle ISIS prisoners or syria itself, no one is asking the kurds (who have no country themselves or position within the Syrian government) to maintain custody of them

there has been numerous offers to take over the custody of these detainees, and personally as a NATO member i'd prefer turkey have custody of them over the kurdish syrian rebels who have utilized them as a bargaining chip in their domestic disputes with the syrian government

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:25 AM

The last few pages of bickering with no political comtemt has made me bigoted against Americans.

foreign policy isn't political gotchya, you've made me bigoted against stupid people who are in the wrong threads

zodium

10-17-2019, 02:27 AM

TRUMOF

Horza

10-17-2019, 02:35 AM

turkey can handle ISIS prisoners or syria itself, no one is asking the kurds (who have no country themselves or position within the Syrian government) to maintain custody of them

How is Turkey going to handle ISIS prisoners that have already escaped and are on the run in a war torn country?

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:41 AM

How is Turkey going to handle ISIS prisoners that have already escaped and are on the run in a war torn country?

easily is how if the kurds were willing to transfer the prisoners, instead the kurds have been using custody of the prisoners to request ridiculous concessions from the syrian government

also the kurds are petty fucks letting them run free in retaliation for being attacked, if a prison guard walked off it wouldnt mean all the prisoners could free themselves

the narrative doesnt even make sense unless the bombs are landing on the cell doors specifically i guess :confused:

Horza

10-17-2019, 02:46 AM

So you don't have an answer.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 02:48 AM

So you don't have an answer.

if the kurds would take any of the offers from actual countries to house the detainees it wouldnt be a problem, they took the situation hostage in an attempt to achieve their personal goals independent of the coalition that were supposedly indebted to them for participating in

Horza

10-17-2019, 02:51 AM

if if if if if if

Bazia

10-17-2019, 03:00 AM

yes if the kurds werent pettily releasing them in retaliation for syria and turkey taking actions against them for illegally occupying a province in syria it wouldnt be a problem

personally i give zero fucks if a 1,000 IS detainees were set free in syria by the kurds in retaliation to syrian policy, i dont want 22 year old jimmy from topeka kansas to die there defending sunni muslims who hate america and western culture

the kurds created the problem with the illegal occupation, the kurds created the problem by refusing to transfer custody of the detainees, and you still havent explained why it's our obligation to solve their self created problems

oh yeah because they told us they would pettily release war criminals that occupied their own villages in retaliation

come on by every observable metric (communists, barbaric sunni islamists, illiterate third worlders, releasing their own occupiers, etc) the kurds are an awful people, how contrarian can you be to defend them

Horza

10-17-2019, 03:07 AM

Obviously you give zero fucks, and once again you're really dialing up the racism with those edits.

Just answer the damn question without mindlessly repeating more shit that Trump has tweeted.

Bazia

10-17-2019, 03:14 AM

Obviously you give zero fucks, and once again you're really dialing up the racism with those edits.

Just answer the damn question without mindlessly repeating more shit that Trump has tweeted.

i concede it's likely turkey or syria could not stop the kurds from maliciously releasing their own occupying war criminals into the syrian population

do you think that detainee ransom is enough of a justification for the US to actively occupy the sovereign state of Syria?

and ironically you're the only one that's repeated a trump tweet tonight with your "it's anti-semitic to acknowledge the israeli lobby"

Bazia

10-17-2019, 03:21 AM

I also don't know what kind of pathetic westerner kisses the asses of hardcore islamists who consider the western culture as we know it satanic, you want us to send people to die defending people who would decapitate you for watching the lord of the rings or allowing your wife to drive a car

Horza

10-17-2019, 03:21 AM

and ironically you're the only one that's repeated a trump tweet tonight with your "it's anti-semitic to acknowledge the israeli lobby"

Trump: Europe had a chance to get their ISIS prisoners, but didn’t want the cost. “Let the USA pay,” they said...Kurds may be releasing some to get us involved. Easily recaptured by Turkey or European Nations from where many came, but they should move quickly. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1183702528787189767)

Horza

10-17-2019, 03:22 AM

On Tucker Carlson Tonight, Tulsi Gabbard uses a Project Veritas video to bolster her campaign. (https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1184626850942857217)

Bazia

10-17-2019, 03:25 AM

i never mentioned europe a single time in this thread, and it's been fun but im going to bed

i'll let the observers decide whose arguments look ridiculous, the guy who wants to send some poor kid from oklahoma to die defending hardcore sunni islamists (you) or the guy who says it's none of our fucking business what happens to kurds or syria (me)

solleks

10-17-2019, 09:16 AM

Zeboim

10-17-2019, 09:17 AM

Bold of you to dial the racism up to 11 within 10 pages of the other chuds getting banned for it, let's see how this works for you.

Hoppkins_Wytchfinder

10-17-2019, 09:20 AM

solleks

10-17-2019, 09:27 AM

No, but i understand why you would think that. The mainstream narrative works very well on you and you think you are the majority and there is only one of the bad man but actually most of American thinks this way you wouldn't know because you watch so much sodomy on Netflix.

Zeboim

10-17-2019, 09:28 AM

America and Isolationism, name a more iconic and disastrous duo.

solleks

10-17-2019, 09:30 AM

Satanism and sodomy

feniin

10-17-2019, 09:39 AM

Promoting sodomy and sexual activity to kids in public school, killing children in the womb, promoting sodomy sex and drugs on public media, promoting drugs and alcohol on public media, promoting materialism. Currently American mainstream culture is by definition satanic.

You are awfully concerned about what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. Guilty conscience much? It's okay to like the butt stuff. There's no God. Don't worry about being damned. Hope that helps.