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[Teppler]

Part 3 of 4

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40824,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

FNC

Carl Cameron

Friday, December 14, 2001

This partial transcript of Special Report with Brit Hume, Dec. 13, was provided by the Federal Document Clearing House. Click here to order the complete transcript.

Part 3 of 4

BRIT HUME, HOST: Last time we reported on an Israeli-based company called Amdocs Ltd. that generates the computerized records and billing data for nearly every phone call made in America. As Carl Cameron reported, U.S. investigators digging into the 9/11 terrorist attacks fear that suspects may have been tipped off to what they were doing by information leaking out of Amdocs.

In tonight's report, we learn that the concern about phone security extends to another company, founded in Israel, that provides the technology that the U.S. government uses for electronic eavesdropping.

Here is Carl Cameron's third report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over):

The company is Comverse Infosys [lawful interception solutions], a subsidiary of an Israeli-run private telecommunications firm, with offices throughout the U.S. It provides wiretapping equipment for law enforcement. Here's how wiretapping works in the U.S.

Every time you make a call, it passes through the nation's elaborate network of switchers and routers run by the phone companies. Custom computers and software, made by companies like Comverse, are tied into that network to intercept, record and store the wiretapped calls, and at the same time transmit them to investigators.

The manufacturers have continuing access to the computers so they can service them and keep them free of glitches. This process was authorized by the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA. Senior government officials have now told Fox News that while CALEA made wiretapping easier, it has led to a system that is seriously vulnerable to compromise, and may have undermined the whole wiretapping system.

Indeed, Fox News has learned that Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were both warned Oct. 18 in a hand-delivered letter from 15 local, state and federal law enforcement officials, who complained that "law enforcement's current electronic surveillance capabilities are less effective today than they were at the time CALEA was enacted."

Congress [sic, probably Comverse] insists the equipment it installs is secure. But the complaint about this system is that the wiretap computer programs made by Comverse have, in effect, a back door through which wiretaps themselves can be intercepted by unauthorized parties.

Adding to the suspicions is the fact that in Israel, Comverse works closely with the Israeli government, and under special programs, gets reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by the Israeli Ministry of Industry and Trade. But investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying through Comverse is considered career suicide.

And sources say that while various F.B.I. inquiries into Comverse have been conducted over the years, they've been halted before the actual equipment has ever been thoroughly tested for leaks. A 1999 F.C.C. document indicates several government agencies expressed deep concerns that too many unauthorized non-law enforcement personnel can access the wiretap system.

And the FBI's own nondescript office in Chantilly, Virginia that actually oversees the CALEA wiretapping program, is among the most agitated about the threat. But there is a bitter turf war internally at F.B.I.

It is the FBI's office in Quantico, Virginia, that has jurisdiction over awarding contracts and buying intercept equipment. And for years, they've thrown much of the business to Comverse. A handful of former U.S. law enforcement officials involved in awarding Comverse government contracts over the years now work for the company.

Numerous sources say some of those individuals were asked to leave government service under what knowledgeable sources call "troublesome circumstances" that remain under administrative review within the Justice Department.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

And what troubles investigators most, particularly in New York, in the counter terrorism investigation of the World Trade Center attack, is that on a number of cases, suspects that they had sought to wiretap and survey immediately changed their telecommunications processes. They started acting much differently as soon as those supposedly secret wiretaps went into place * Brit.

HUME: Carl, is there any reason to suspect in this instance that the Israeli government is involved?

CAMERON: No, there's not. But there are growing instincts in an awful lot of law enforcement officials in a variety of agencies who suspect that it had begun compiling evidence, and a highly classified investigation into that possibility * Brit.

[Teppler]

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40981,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

TONY SNOW, HOST: This week, senior correspondent Carl Cameron has reported on a longstanding government espionage investigation. Federal officials this year have arrested or detained nearly 200 Israeli citizens suspected of belonging to an "organized intelligence-gathering operation." The Bush administration has deported most of those arrested after Sept. 11, although some are in custody under the new anti-terrorism law.

Cameron also investigates the possibility that an Israeli firm generated billing data that could be used for intelligence purpose, and describes concerns that the federal government's own wiretapping system may be vulnerable. Tonight, in part four of the series, we'll learn about the probable roots of the probe: a drug case that went bad four years ago in L.A.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Los Angeles, 1997, a major local, state and federal drug investigating sours. The suspects: Israeli organized crime with operations in New York, Miami, Las Vegas, Canada, Israel and Egypt. The allegations: cocaine and ecstasy trafficking, and sophisticated white-collar credit card and computer fraud.

The problem: according to classified law enforcement documents obtained by Fox News, the bad guys had the cops’ beepers, cell phones, even home phones under surveillance. Some who did get caught admitted to having hundreds of numbers and using them to avoid arrest.

"This compromised law enforcement communications between LAPD detectives and other assigned law enforcement officers working various aspects of the case. The organization discovered communications between organized crime intelligence division detectives, the FBI and the Secret Service."

Shock spread from the DEA to the FBI in Washington, and then the CIA. An investigation of the problem, according to law enforcement documents, concluded, "The organization has apparent extensive access to database systems to identify pertinent personal and biographical information."

When investigators tried to find out where the information might have come from, they looked at Amdocs, a publicly traded firm based in Israel. Amdocs generates billing data for virtually every call in America, and they do credit checks. The company denies any leaks, but investigators still fear that the firm's data is getting into the wrong hands.

When investigators checked their own wiretapping system for leaks, they grew concerned about potential vulnerabilities in the computers that intercept, record and store the wiretapped calls. A main contractor is Comverse Infosys, which works closely with the Israeli government, and under a special grant program, is reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by Israel's Ministry of Industry and Trade.

Asked this week about another sprawling investigation and the detention of 60 Israeli since Sept. 11, the Bush administration treated the questions like hot potatoes.

ARI FLEISCHER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I would just refer you to the Department of Justice with that. I'm not familiar with the report.

COLIN POWELL, SECRETARY OF STATE: I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained. With respect to why they're being detained and the other aspects of your question * whether it's because they're in intelligence services, or what they were doing * I will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI to answer that.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CAMERON: Beyond the 60 apprehended or detained, and many deported since Sept. 11, another group of 140 Israeli individuals have been arrested and detained in this year in what government documents describe as "an organized intelligence gathering operation," designed to "penetrate government facilities." Most of those individuals said they had served in the Israeli military, which is compulsory there.

But they also had, most of them, intelligence expertise, and either worked for Amdocs or other companies in Israel that specialize in wiretapping. Earlier this week, the Israeli embassy in Washington denied any spying against or in the United States * Tony.

SNOW: Carl, we've heard the comments from Ari Fleischer and Colin Powell. What are officials saying behind the scenes?

CAMERON: Well, there's real pandemonium described at the FBI, the DEA and the INS. A lot of these problems have been well known to some investigators, many of who have contributed to the reporting on this story. And what they say is happening is supervisors and management are now going back and collecting much of the information, because there's tremendous pressure from the top levels of all of those agencies to find out exactly what's going on.

At the DEA and the FBI already a variety of administration reviews are under way, in addition to the investigation of the phenomenon. They want to find out how it is all this has come out, as well as be very careful because of the explosive nature and very political ramifications of the story itself * Tony.

SNOW: All right, Carl, thanks.

[Jimjam]

You know how there are all these e-thots nowadays that stream and have people donate? A paypig is dedicated viewer of an ethot that donates regularly. They get little to no verbal contact let alone physical contact yet they regularly spend money.

It's kind of like the US's relationship with Israel. We send billions over every years but what kind of pay off to we get? What do we get back?
Dual nationality politicians 😂.

[BadOrangeMan]

gaslighting thread

Which candidate do you think has the best chances?

[feniin]

Trump claims he received 'deep respect' at Nato summit despite video showing world leaders laughing at him (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-nato-summit-video-laughing-trudeau-macron-johnson-a9233461.html)

It’s not even that he lies. You can actually count on him to say the exact opposite of the truth. If a poll came out putting him in last place of something entirely trivial and which he hadn’t even heard of previously, he would claim he was the best at it ever, still not knowing what it even is.

[Jimjam]

Okay. Go up to the federal government or federal government people and tell them you want 10 million dollars right now. They have it. And you say “the federal government answers to the people”. Let’s see if your claim is true.
Feniin is a person not people... But lets be honest some people essentially do get given millions of dollars by government. I know in the UK one of our public healthcare services got contracted to a US provider (owned by a friend of the ministers that facilitated the service being sold off) and it was sold hugely under valued. This contractor then sold it off again to a chinese subcontractor for a price orders of magnitude higher. Sadly i can't rember any of the details beyond these vague impressions, but I'm sure such cronyisms (or incompetence?) exist in your own government too. And Tepplar, you think the Conservative party and their leader are not the tools of the billionaires 😂.
Do you understand how foreign aid works and why it exists?Largely it is to provide free private security to crony business interests under the guise of local humanitarian work. The chinese do it best as they actually build decent infrastructure to support their crony businesses, so locals actually benefit much more (albiet incidentally).

Always amuses me how much Tepplar reads past my posts or focuses on superficial differences of opinion when if he examined the crucial details he'd be suprised by our overlap.

[Jimjam]

Oh and Tepplar while I'm responding to you, you asked why in the UK you have reports of wrong thinkers being rounded up and why the UK political news is obsessed with America... It's about the media creating fake bogeymen to control the populations through a climate of fear.

An immigrant inciting to kill the Queen's grand daughter (even if just through marriage) is going to have a bad time! The fact I've not been locked up proves it isn't just a mis-speak=locked up system here. The fact you believe this shows you've been filled with unreasoning fear.

[Jimjam]

Current president's wife 'presents as a lady'... Reads like a transphobic attack against the former president...perhaps just me projecting my own love of TV.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

UK utterly has freedom of speech. You could easily call a policeman a brainless fuckwit if you wanted with no come back. 99% dead on bet they just cba to even bother.

I could go stand outside buckingham palace with a sign which says "Royalty sucks, get out of the UK back to Germany" and no one would bat an eyelid.

We have free speech. It's just at times people confuse it for being IMMUNE to consequences. Free speech is about being able to call someone a twat, its also about accepting they may give you a broken nose for it.

If you think the crackdown on hate speech is an infringement of that you are mistaken.

[BadOrangeMan]

We have free speech. It's just at times people confuse it for being IMMUNE to consequences. Free speech is about being able to call someone a twat, its also about accepting they may give you a broken nose for it.

If you think the crackdown on hate speech is an infringement of that you are mistaken.

Totalitarian hogwash.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Wrote something but deleted it. Pointless.

[Kaveh]

UK utterly has freedom of speech. You could easily call a policeman a brainless fuckwit if you wanted with no come back. 99% dead on bet they just cba to even bother.

I could go stand outside buckingham palace with a sign which says "Royalty sucks, get out of the UK back to Germany" and no one would bat an eyelid.

We have free speech. It's just at times people confuse it for being IMMUNE to consequences. Free speech is about being able to call someone a twat, its also about accepting they may give you a broken nose for it.

If you think the crackdown on hate speech is an infringement of that you are mistaken.

Hate speech should be allowed. Tepplers exist in the world. I’d rather have them free to make fools of themselves as opposed to them going the school shooter / lone wolf route

[Jimjam]

Maybe we don't hear of [school shootings] because of our heavily regulated and controlled media, but we don't seem to have school shootings in the UK. How about the US?

Afaik hate speech only seems to carry consequences when accompanied with calls to action. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

[Teppler]

Hate speech should be allowed. Tepplers exist in the world. I’d rather have them free to make fools of themselves as opposed to them going the school shooter / lone wolf route

Someone’s butthurt this morning. What did I say to offend you yesterday snowflake? :D

[Teppler]

Maybe we don't hear of [school shootings] because of our heavily regulated and controlled media, but we don't seem to have school shootings in the UK. How about the US?

Afaik hate speech only seems to carry consequences when accompanied with calls to action. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

Mass shootings also largely didn’t exist in the 60s and 70s.

We’ve had mass immigration and open borders since then. UK doesn’t have a southern border like the US where they are constantly flooded with illegal immigrants. I suspect that’s a large part of the difference if we are doing an honest analysis here. When you have a society on the same page with a stronger family unit reinforcing mental stability, these shootings don’t happen. America is a sick nation right now for sure.

[Teppler]

Current president's wife 'presents as a lady'... Reads like a transphobic attack against the former president...perhaps just me projecting my own love of TV.

I think it’s fair to say one is better and more natural at being a lady than the muscled up one with bulges all over.

[Jimjam]

Well you previously encouraged me to assassin (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPSSs1xnpY)ate those who you perceive to be the political tools of the elites, and endorsed the murder of a British MP, so I can somewhat sympathise with his impression that you could be implicated in act of defiant violence.

Elections are rolling around the UK soon. Our chance to 'shoot' our leaders down (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPSSs1xnpY).

Today had flyers pledging to provide bursaries to train nurses and invest in the development of affordable entry level housing (no private sector company builds this in the uk, neither have the government for decades). Sounds like the elites with their claws in medical schools and the construction industry want to leach away the common people's tax money!

I think I may buy into it regardless. Having safety net houses and an abudance of trained young nurses makes my unemployed / homeless fantasies so much warmer and snuggly. With housing and healthcare provision no one will want to work! We'll just eat out of food banks!

[Jimjam]

https://i.imgur.com/SxslXP3.jpgI went on the internet and found this.

[Teppler]

Well you previously encouraged me to assassin (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPSSs1xnpY)ate those who you perceive to be the political tools of the elites, and endorsed the murder of a British MP, so I can somewhat sympathise with his impression that you could be implicated in act of defiant violence.

Elections are rolling around the UK soon. Our chance to 'shoot' our leaders down (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPSSs1xnpY).

Today had flyers pledging to provide bursaries to train nurses and invest in the development of affordable entry level housing (no private sector company builds this in the uk, neither have the government for decades). Sounds like the elites with their claws in medical schools and the construction industry want to leach away the common people's tax money!

I think I may buy into it regardless. Having safety net houses and an abudance of trained young nurses makes my unemployed / homeless fantasies so much warmer and snuggly. With housing and healthcare provision no one will want to work! We'll just eat out of food banks!

Lol I’ve simply said political protest and harsh violence is often called for when the elected politicians do not serve their people anymore. You’re trying to morph this into some idea I’m telling you to attack a specific person? I’m not sure if the rest of this post is directed at me, seems like a bit of a non sensical ramble.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Hate speech should be allowed. Tepplers exist in the world. I’d rather have them free to make fools of themselves as opposed to them going the school shooter / lone wolf route

Again, freedom of speech allows this. No one is stopping you being racist. BUTTTTT you have to be prepared to face the consequences of it.

Freedom of speech =/= Being immune to the law

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

https://i.imgur.com/SxslXP3.jpgI went on the internet and found this.

LOL @ weaker population. one of the worlds strongest men is a vegan :D Patrik Baboumian :) (disclaimer: i know you didnt author that)

[Teppler]

Again, freedom of speech allows this. No one is stopping you being racist. BUTTTTT you have to be prepared to face the consequences of it.

Freedom of speech =/= Being immune to the law

You’re mixing up your points completely. The law isn’t supposed to get you if you exercise free speech in any form. Rofl....

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

No. I think you are getting it wrong.

Laws are vital for a society. People simply cannot be free to do anything they want. That's a fantasy land.

Free speech means you can say whatever you want to say. You still need to face consequences if what you say is against a law.

But look on the bright side you were allowed to say it :)

[Jimjam]

Lol I’ve simply said political protest and harsh violence is often called for when the elected politicians do not serve their people anymore. You’re trying to morph this into some idea I’m telling you to attack a specific person? I’m not sure if the rest of this post is directed at me, seems like a bit of a non sensical ramble.

I'm anused to hear my post was rambling, I'm trying to adopt a style closer to yours to better fit into this subforum thread.

You absolutely have encouraged GB citizens to 'rise up', don't backpedal, be proud of your revolutionary principles. The British thought police can't arrest you. And no, you didn't tell us to attack a specific person but a class of people. We pointed out to you we already had a political assassination and how hate speech and calls to action are of mortal danger but you just endorsed it (Jo Cox).

https://i.imgur.com/iXdW0ej.jpg

[Teppler]

No. I think you are getting it wrong.

Laws are vital for a society. People simply cannot be free to do anything they want. That's a fantasy land.

Free speech means you can say whatever you want to say. You still need to face consequences if what you say is against a law.

But look on the bright side you were allowed to say it :)

You’re not making sense.

Just because you can rob a store blind doesn’t mean you legally have a right to do so even though you are physically able to. The consequences show you do not have that right and freedom and you will be gravely punished.

Just because you can say nasty things and get arrested for it doesn’t mean you have the freedom to say those nasty things. Again, the consequences are showing you don’t have that freedom.

And then consider, what speech needs to be protected? You’re protecting speech that doesn’t need it. Freedom of speech exists to protect “hate speech”.

[Kaveh]

LOL @ weaker population. one of the worlds strongest men is a vegan :D Patrik Baboumian :) (disclaimer: i know you didnt author that)

That guy is an Iranian Armenian. Cataphract is in his blood, doesn’t count

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Disagree. With my body i am free to do anything i want with it.

My argument is although you are free to exercise that right doesn't mean you are free of consequence.

If your definition of free spech is that you can say anything you want without any consequence you are living in a fairytale world. No country has ever been like that or WILL ever be like that.

You for instance are free to break any law you wish, thats your right to use your brain and body as you see fit. You can even resist arrest if you want. You could go further and you are free to waive your right to legal counsel and insinuate the judges wife is a lady of scrupilus values (which would leave him free to abuse his position to send you someplace real nasty).

You would be free to spout your hate speech then in prison and see how many friends it makes you and then be free to fight the gaurds to get into solitary confinement.

No one would impinge you freedom of speech. PRobably just your freedom of everything else.

[Kaveh]

I'm anused to hear my post was rambling, I'm trying to adopt a style closer to yours to better fit into this subforum thread.

You absolutely have encouraged GB citizens to 'rise up', don't backpedal, be proud of your revolutionary principles. The British thought police can't arrest you. And no, you didn't tell us to attack a specific person but a class of people. We pointed out to you we already had a political assassination and how hate speech and calls to action are of mortal danger but you just endorsed it (Jo Cox).

https://i.imgur.com/iXdW0ej.jpg

Can britons call out Pakistanis for running sex slavery rings? They do, and they fill your prisons. They also smell like shit

[Kaveh]

Buttigieg beating trump will be hilarious. I won’t like seeing a First Gayboi instead of First Lady though

[Teppler]

Disagree. With my body i am free to do anything i want with it.

My argument is although you are free to exercise that right doesn't mean you are free of consequence.

If your definition of free spech is that you can say anything you want without any consequence you are living in a fairytale world. No country has ever been like that or WILL ever be like that.

You for instance are free to break any law you wish, thats your right to use your brain and body as you see fit. You can even resist arrest if you want. You could go further and you are free to waive your right to legal counsel and insinuate the judges wife is a lady of scrupilus values (which would leave him free to abuse his position to send you someplace real nasty).

You would be free to spout your hate speech then in prison and see how many friends it makes you and then be free to fight the gaurds to get into solitary confinement.

No one would impinge you freedom of speech. PRobably just your freedom of everything else.

When your state grants you freedom it means they will not persecute you for exercising the rights that come with those freedoms. You simply are not free to commit murder, rob people blindly and commit mass terrorist acts. You are prosecuted very dearly for any of these acts which shows you are not granted freedom by the state to commit them.

By your definitions the word freedom has no meaning. It would mean the state grants you no freedoms whatsoever because they literally can’t stop you from doing things with your body.

I can see you’re trying to pilpul the word freedom but I’m wondering if you are noticing you are failing horribly.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

You are free to think that. I won't hold it against you.

[Teppler]

Buttigieg beating trump will be hilarious. I won’t like seeing a First Gayboi instead of First Lady though

Is he even in the top 3 democrats right now? I thought it was Biden > Warren > Bernie

A little ahead of yourself there

[Teppler]

You are free to think that. I won't hold it against you.

Am I really free to think that or will the government come lock me up for wrong think?

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Lucky for us nobody cares what happens if you do that.

[this user was banned]

She is not going to win because she wants to put the people’s’ interests over the party’s interests and the Democratic Party will not allow that. Her stance on foreign policy is anti establishment which is attempting to break the decades trend of covert nation building and regime change that this county has enacted since colonialism is no longer popular and no longer an option. That’s going to make a lot of powerful people angry. She sure seems like what our country needs as far as Democratic candidates goes.

[feniin]

Was there some newfound revelation about Gabbard on 9gag/8chan/T_D/Stormfront? So many alt-right cultists supporting her and literally zero Democrats. She's polling around 0.

[Wonkie]

Was there some newfound revelation about Gabbard on 9gag/8chan/T_D/Stormfront? So many alt-right cultists supporting her and literally zero Democrats. She's polling around 0.

she got in a twitter beef with hillary clinton is how this heel turn started

[rebeccablack]

i dont really get the boner right wing people have for her, her policy stances arent significantly different from the rest of the pack of dem candidates. is it just because shes hot and she goes on fox news? or is it just an attempt to astroturf some support for an anti-establishment candidate to promote infighting?

[Teppler]

http://www.absltzero.com/the-day-the-logic-died/

Last night I was reading an extremely fascinating account of how Harvard has declined so steeply from the most elite higher learning institution.

Apparently there was a rising feminist element in Harvard and higher learning in general starting in the 90s. Larry Summers was an economic genius and president of Harvard. The feminists were constantly noting that there weren't enough women in STEM. They maintained there was unlawful discrimination going on despite the colleges best efforts to put more women in STEM. One day Larry Summers decides to address the female faculty in an off the record meeting that is not recorded. In this meeting he very politely puts forward a number of theories that might explain why the numbers still aren't 50/50 in STEM.

We have the transcript now and it's true he was very polite in simply trying to explain why they were getting the results they were getting but a transcript wasn't available early on. There was only 2 dozen people at this meeting and they made up all sorts of bullshit about the speech about how Larry was saying women are inferior to men.

The shrieking 'reeeeee' types at the meeting started getting a national platform from this story and Larry Summers, the man that dared to say there might be biological differences between men and women was ousted from his position as president for stating that.

That is the day intellectualism died at Harvard and it's taken it's current form. Larry Summers went on an apology tour but it didn't help. He only looked pathetic. The final blow came when the Clinton family withdrew support for him, further confirming the politics entrenched in these higher learning organizations.

He did land okay though. All that apologizing and begging feminazis not to hurt him anymore got him a job in Obama's admin. Probably deservedly so, he's a great economic mind.

Interesting enough.... at the end of this story the author starts creating his own theories about how this happened. He goes into this idea about a primordial female element that beats out males like this but I see it differently. The people that ousted Larry Summers weren't doing it on their own. They had political support from the establishment as shown by the media and Clinton's helping them transform Harvard from science based economic viewpoint first to placating whacko social justice people first. None of this would of been possible without big money elites funding the destructive harpies.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

THE FEMINISTS
DESTRUCTIVE HARPIES
THE MAN THAT DARED TO SAY
FEMINAZIS

Man you have a lot of anger toward women. It's worrying.

[Teppler]

i dont really get the boner right wing people have for her, her policy stances arent significantly different from the rest of the pack of dem candidates. is it just because shes hot and she goes on fox news? or is it just an attempt to astroturf some support for an anti-establishment candidate to promote infighting?

She doesn't want to drag us into wars for Israel for one. How many dems were against attacking Syria?

I could vote for her just on that issue honestly even though she's strong on some others.

[feniin]

THE FEMINISTS
DESTRUCTIVE HARPIES
THE MAN THAT DARED TO SAY
FEMINAZIS

Man you have a lot of anger toward women. It's worrying.

Involuntarily celibacy.

[Teppler]

THE FEMINISTS
DESTRUCTIVE HARPIES
THE MAN THAT DARED TO SAY
FEMINAZIS

Man you have a lot of anger toward women. It's worrying.

Liberals. You should see how I refer to your men too. I'm equal opportunity between genders when it comes to hating liberals. :D

[Wonkie]

Liberals. You should see how I refer to your men too. I'm equal opportunity between genders when it comes to hating liberals. :D

how about start a youtube channel instead of whatever brand identity you're trying to build on this tiny corner of the dorkweb.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Yes hilarious

[feniin]

how about start a youtube channel instead of whatever brand identity you're trying to build on this tiny corner of the dorkweb.

He's definitely keeping a livejournal/blogspot of how much he's owning libs every day.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Yeah he could do a shaman part to the show. It would be great.

I mean i've watched Alex Jones so it can only be better :s

[Teppler]

how about start a youtube channel instead of whatever brand identity you're trying to build on this tiny corner of the dorkweb.

I have a month off from work I'm just starting so get used to me around here.

[Wonkie]

I have a month off from work I'm just starting so get used to me around here.

there's always podcasting if you have a face for radio :p

[Teppler]

there's always podcasting if you have a face for radio :p

Maybe you should do a podcast with feniin. You guys can have that safe space youre dreaming about and do all the personal attacks to your hearts content like you guys are just dying to do.

[feniin]

Maybe you should do a podcast with feniin. You guys can have that safe space youre dreaming about and do all the personal attacks to your hearts content like you guys are just dying to do.

You really can't handle any sort of critique of your beliefs, can you?

[feniin]

Gabbard’s supporters are also likely to fall outside of traditional Democratic circles. Her supporters, for instance, are more likely to have backed President Trump in 2016, hold conservative views or identify as Republican compared to voters backing the other candidates

Sounds like she's not a Democrat and doesn't hold Democratic principles. Pence should pick her for VP in 2020.

[Teppler]

Sounds like she's not a Democrat and doesn't hold Democratic principles. Pence should pick her for VP in 2020.

What are democratic principles? She seems to hold traditional liberal party positions before the party shifted extremely far left over the past 30 years. She was actually a big rising star in the DNC till at some point she wouldn’t get in bed with the banker element. She definitely told them to fuck of.

Why can’t the democrat field have a lot of variance and just let the people vote?

She would also make a great choice because she has lots of cross party appeal. What exactly do you not like about her?

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/9R4OI0R.png

Alexandria is a walking embarrassment for the democrats

And yet, she gurgles on hundreds of thousands of likes, retweets, supporters etc on every media she posts.

Are democrats just plain stupid or the epitome of hypocrites?

[feniin]

What are democratic principles? She seems to hold traditional liberal party positions before the party shifted extremely far left over the past 30 years. She was actually a big rising star in the DNC till at some point she wouldn’t get in bed with the banker element. She definitely told them to fuck of.

Why can’t the democrat field have a lot of variance and just let the people vote?

She would also make a great choice because she has lots of cross party appeal. What exactly do you not like about her?

Mostly that it's obvious that she's a shill and spoiler controlled by Russia. Exactly the same as Jill Stein was last go 'round.

[feniin]

I love that the alt-right cult hates her so much.

[Teppler]

Mostly that it's obvious that she's a shill and spoiler controlled by Russia. Exactly the same as Jill Stein was last go 'round.

Is that your convincing argument? Where's your evidence? Which of her positions aid Russia?

How come you never get up in arms about Israeli spys in America? I just posted a lengthy thing yesterday going over the mass amount of Israeli spys that were detained and deported around 9/11 including the dancing Israeli's story that was fbi guarded for a long time.

At the very least, Israeli spies were well aware that 9/11 was about to happen while there was tons of Mossad scams and operations going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyUoGUV7b8

There's records of people watching them set up the cameras to watch the towers and them dancing in celebration afterwards.

How do you do this if you are unaware of the mass terror attack about to happen?

Why are you not concerned about this Israeli spy element while we have dual citizen policians and we send billions to Israel every year with no return that I can figure out? How on earth is russia a big concern for you in the face of this?

[solleks]

I don't know who she is and I'm a nazi

[Teppler]

The dancing israelis were part of a moving company that was most likely a business that was almost completely fraudulent. According to FBI documents there was one worker they were able to track down who quit a few months before 9/11 citing the reason was extreme anti American sentiment. He also stated that one of the Israeli employees at some point remarked, "Give us 20 years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country".

These are fbi records.

[rebeccablack]

is it an israeli tradition to dance villainously after your elaborate plots come to fruition? it seems like that might tip people off

[Teppler]

is it an israeli tradition to dance villainously after your elaborate plots come to fruition? it seems like that might tip people off

Dudes on television bragging about documenting 9/11 when it happened as it was part of a plan. Implication being he knew 9/11 was going to happen. You don't believe there's some hubris involved here?

He's obviously not worried about repercussions whether that's smart or not for him.

[Wonkie]

I love that the alt-right cult hates her so much.

AOC attracts a lot of venom from redhats that would otherwise be spent on calling President Buttigieg a communist.

She's ok

[feniin]

That Teppler is defending her so vehemently is all I need to know.

[feniin]

Dudes on television bragging about documenting 9/11 when it happened as it was part of a plan. Implication being he knew 9/11 was going to happen. You don't believe there's some hubris involved here?

He's obviously not worried about repercussions whether that's smart or not for him.

Trump did that.

[rebeccablack]

Dudes on television bragging about documenting 9/11 when it happened as it was part of a plan. Implication being he knew 9/11 was going to happen. You don't believe there's some hubris involved here?

He's obviously not worried about repercussions whether that's smart or not for him.
just a friendly piece of life advice: if your view of the world involves cartoon-style mustache twirling villains you have probably taken a left turn from reality somewhere

[Ripp]

AOC is a Socialist/Communist nut bag.

But that's where your party is going so I'm not surprised at all that you support her.

[Teppler]

AOC is a Socialist/Communist nut bag.

But that's where your party is going so I'm not surprised at all that you support her.

No one's made a post yet that she seems actually retarded. Read that image post I did. She gets things totally wrong all the time but her liberal base eats it up. Like factually wrong.... not just difference of opinion.

This is why it's very hard to support democrats and liberalism in 2019. If they aren't paying you in some way it just looks like a bunch of illogical mess appealing to wacko emotions.

[Ripp]

No one's made a post yet that she seems actually retarded. Read that image post I did. She gets things totally wrong all the time but her liberal base eats it up. Like factually wrong.... not just difference of opinion.

This is why it's very hard to support democrats and liberalism in 2019. If they aren't paying you in some way it just looks like a bunch of illogical mess appealing to wacko emotions.

Did you hear the story of how she got the nomination?

O.

M.

G.

The Democratic party is such a joke. Sad.

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/AYWBudI.jpg

[Teppler]

just a friendly piece of life advice: if your view of the world involves cartoon-style mustache twirling villains you have probably taken a left turn from reality somewhere

Nice theory but the dancing israeli story comes from FBI documents and actual videos of them speaking. Lets sum up the evidence here.

People of a community notice suspicious activity on 9/11 and alert law enforcement.

They were seen celebrating first from atop their vehicle in a parking lot at Doric Towers in Union City, New Jersey, and later from the roof of a warehouse owned by Urban Moving Systems in Weehawken, New Jersey, the company for which the men worked.

Now you might say, this is all hearsay. There's no proof of this. The FBI confirms these reports from multiple people and then we have a video of one of them also admitting to it in 2001-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyUoGUV7b8

There are photographs that were released. 76 photographs on 11 September 2001 according to the FBI documents, including many of themselves smiling, hugging, horsing around, trading high-fives and holding up a cigarette lighter with the burning World Trade Center towers as their backdrop.

When you dig deeper you learn about their scam of a company that abruptly dissolved before the FBI got to them. And that there were a mass amount of around 200 Israeli spies in America around them time.

[Teppler]

I posted this yesterday- This fox news correspondent Carl Cameron did a story on the Israeli spies that is really hard to find now. Fox shut it down but here it is. It's fascinating stuff that helps but a little context to the dancing israelis-

[feniin]

Socialism is a fun buzzword for cultists to shout when you take care of people less fortunate than yourself instead of stepping on their throats.

[Teppler]

Part 1 of 4

[No date available.]

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40684,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

BRIT HUME, HOST: It has been more than 16 years since a civilian working for the Navy was charged with passing secrets to Israel. Jonathan Pollard pled guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage and is serving a life sentence. At first, Israeli leaders claimed Pollard was part of a rogue operation, but later took responsibility for his work.

Now Fox News has learned some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S., who may have known things they didn't tell us before Sept. 11. Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron has details in the first of a four-part series.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Since Sept. 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or detained, either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.

There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are "tie-ins." But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, "evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis, spotted in North Carolina recently, is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the United States is also investigating for links to terrorism. Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to Sept. 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that's been compiling evidence since the mid '90s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say, "may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity."

The first part of the investigation focuses on Israelis who say they are art students from the University of Jerusalem and Bazala Academy. They repeatedly made contact with U.S. government personnel, the report says, by saying they wanted to sell cheap art or handiwork.

Documents say they, "targeted and penetrated military bases." The DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel. The majority of those questioned, "stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and or explosive ordinance units."

Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrests of dozens of Israelis at American mall kiosks, where they've been selling toys called Puzzle Car and Zoom Copter. Investigators suspect a front.

Shortly after The New York Times and Washington Post reported the Israeli detentions last months, the carts began vanishing. Zoom Copter's Web page says, "We are aware of the situation caused by thousands of mall carts being closed at the last minute. This in no way reflects the quality of the toy or its salability. The problem lies in the operators' business policies."

Why would Israelis spy in and on the U.S.? A general accounting office investigation referred to Israel as country A and said, "According to a U.S. intelligence agency, the government of country A conducts the most aggressive espionage operations against the U.S. of any U.S. ally."

A defense intelligence report said Israel has a voracious appetite for information and said, "the Israelis are motivated by strong survival instincts which dictate every possible facet of their political and economical policies. It aggressively collects military and industrial technology and the U.S. is a high priority target."

The document concludes: "Israel possesses the resources and technical capability to achieve its collection objectives."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy here in Washington issued a denial saying that any suggestion that Israelis are spying in or on the U.S. is "simply not true." There are other things to consider. And in the days ahead, we'll take a look at the U.S. phone system and law enforcement's methods for wiretaps. And an investigation that both have been compromised by our friends overseas.

HUME: Carl, what about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on 9/11? How clear are investigators that some Israeli agents may have known something?

CAMERON: It's very explosive information, obviously, and there's a great deal of evidence that they say they have collected — none of it necessarily conclusive. It's more when they put it all together. A bigger question, they say, is how could they not have know? Almost a direct quote.

HUME: Going into the fact that they were spying on some Arabs, right?

CAMERON: Correct.

HUME: All right, Carl, thanks very much.

[Teppler]

Part 2 of 4

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40747,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

Could information that fell into an Israeli-based private communications company impeded the Sept. 11 inquiry

BRIT HUME, HOST: Last time we reported on the approximately 60 Israelis who had been detained in connection with the Sept. 11 terrorism investigation. Carl Cameron reported that U.S. investigators suspect that some of these Israelis were spying on Arabs in this country, and may have turned up information on the planned terrorist attacks back in September that was not passed on.

Tonight, in the second of four reports on spying by Israelis in the U.S., we learn about an Israeli-based private communications company, for whom a half-dozen of those 60 detained suspects worked. American investigators fear information generated by this firm may have fallen into the wrong hands and had the effect of impeded the Sept. 11 terror inquiry. Here's Carl Cameron's second report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over):

Fox News has learned that some American terrorist investigators fear certain suspects in the Sept. 11 attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them, by knowing who and when investigators are calling on the telephone. How?

By obtaining and analyzing data that's generated every time someone in the U.S. makes a call.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What city and state, please?

CAMERON: Here's how the system works. Most directory assistance calls, and virtually all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private telecommunications company.

Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.

In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. The firm has repeatedly and adamantly denied any security breaches or wrongdoing. But sources tell Fox News that in 1999, the super secret National Security Agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what's called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands * in Israel, in particular.

Investigators don't believe calls are being listened to, but the data about who is calling whom and when is plenty valuable in itself. An internal Amdocs memo to senior company executives suggests just how Amdocs generated call records could be used. “Widespread data mining techniques and algorithms.... combining both the properties of the customer (e.g., credit rating) and properties of the specific ‘behavior….’” Specific behavior, such as who the customers are calling.

The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system. Fox News has learned that the N.S.A has held numerous classified conferences to warn the F.B.I. and C.I.A. how Amdocs records could be used. At one NSA briefing, a diagram by the Argon national lab was used to show that if the phone records are not secure, major security breaches are possible.

Another briefing document said, "It has become increasingly apparent that systems and networks are vulnerable.…Such crimes always involve unauthorized persons, or persons who exceed their authorization...citing on exploitable vulnerabilities."

Those vulnerabilities are growing, because according to another briefing, the U.S. relies too much on foreign companies like Amdocs for high-tech equipment and software. "Many factors have led to increased dependence on code developed overseas.... We buy rather than train or develop solutions."

U.S. intelligence does not believe the Israeli government is involved in a misuse of information, and Amdocs insists that its data is secure. What U.S. government officials are worried about, however, is the possibility that Amdocs data could get into the wrong hands, particularly organized crime.

And that would not be the first thing that such a thing has happened. Fox News has documents of a 1997 drug trafficking case in Los Angeles, in which telephone information, the type that Amdocs collects, was used to "completely compromise the communications of the FBI, the Secret Service, the DEA and the LAPD."

We'll have that and a lot more in the days ahead * Brit.

HUME: Carl, I want to take you back to your report last night on those 60 Israelis who were detained in the anti-terror investigation, and the suspicion that some investigators have that they may have picked up information on the 9/11 attacks ahead of time and not passed it on.

There was a report, you'll recall, that the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, did indeed send representatives to the U.S. to warn, just before 9/11, that a major terrorist attack was imminent. How does that leave room for the lack of a warning?

CAMERON: I remember the report, Brit. We did it first internationally right here on your show on the 14th. What investigators are saying is that that warning from the Mossad was nonspecific and general, and they believe that it may have had something to do with the desire to protect what are called sources and methods in the intelligence community. The suspicion being, perhaps those sources and methods were taking place right here in the United States.

The question came up in select intelligence committee on Capitol Hill today. They intend to look into what we reported last night, and specifically that possibility * Brit.

HUME: So in other words, the problem wasn't lack of a warning, the problem was lack of useful details?

CAMERON: Quantity of information.

HUME: All right, Carl, thank you very much

[Wonkie]

just a friendly piece of life advice: if your view of the world involves cartoon-style mustache twirling villains you have probably taken a left turn from reality somewhere

[Teppler]

Part 3 of 4

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40824,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

FNC

Carl Cameron

Friday, December 14, 2001

This partial transcript of Special Report with Brit Hume, Dec. 13, was provided by the Federal Document Clearing House. Click here to order the complete transcript.

Part 3 of 4

BRIT HUME, HOST: Last time we reported on an Israeli-based company called Amdocs Ltd. that generates the computerized records and billing data for nearly every phone call made in America. As Carl Cameron reported, U.S. investigators digging into the 9/11 terrorist attacks fear that suspects may have been tipped off to what they were doing by information leaking out of Amdocs.

In tonight's report, we learn that the concern about phone security extends to another company, founded in Israel, that provides the technology that the U.S. government uses for electronic eavesdropping.

Here is Carl Cameron's third report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over):

The company is Comverse Infosys [lawful interception solutions], a subsidiary of an Israeli-run private telecommunications firm, with offices throughout the U.S. It provides wiretapping equipment for law enforcement. Here's how wiretapping works in the U.S.

Every time you make a call, it passes through the nation's elaborate network of switchers and routers run by the phone companies. Custom computers and software, made by companies like Comverse, are tied into that network to intercept, record and store the wiretapped calls, and at the same time transmit them to investigators.

The manufacturers have continuing access to the computers so they can service them and keep them free of glitches. This process was authorized by the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA. Senior government officials have now told Fox News that while CALEA made wiretapping easier, it has led to a system that is seriously vulnerable to compromise, and may have undermined the whole wiretapping system.

Indeed, Fox News has learned that Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were both warned Oct. 18 in a hand-delivered letter from 15 local, state and federal law enforcement officials, who complained that "law enforcement's current electronic surveillance capabilities are less effective today than they were at the time CALEA was enacted."

Congress [sic, probably Comverse] insists the equipment it installs is secure. But the complaint about this system is that the wiretap computer programs made by Comverse have, in effect, a back door through which wiretaps themselves can be intercepted by unauthorized parties.

Adding to the suspicions is the fact that in Israel, Comverse works closely with the Israeli government, and under special programs, gets reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by the Israeli Ministry of Industry and Trade. But investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying through Comverse is considered career suicide.

And sources say that while various F.B.I. inquiries into Comverse have been conducted over the years, they've been halted before the actual equipment has ever been thoroughly tested for leaks. A 1999 F.C.C. document indicates several government agencies expressed deep concerns that too many unauthorized non-law enforcement personnel can access the wiretap system.

And the FBI's own nondescript office in Chantilly, Virginia that actually oversees the CALEA wiretapping program, is among the most agitated about the threat. But there is a bitter turf war internally at F.B.I.

It is the FBI's office in Quantico, Virginia, that has jurisdiction over awarding contracts and buying intercept equipment. And for years, they've thrown much of the business to Comverse. A handful of former U.S. law enforcement officials involved in awarding Comverse government contracts over the years now work for the company.

Numerous sources say some of those individuals were asked to leave government service under what knowledgeable sources call "troublesome circumstances" that remain under administrative review within the Justice Department.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

And what troubles investigators most, particularly in New York, in the counter terrorism investigation of the World Trade Center attack, is that on a number of cases, suspects that they had sought to wiretap and survey immediately changed their telecommunications processes. They started acting much differently as soon as those supposedly secret wiretaps went into place * Brit.

HUME: Carl, is there any reason to suspect in this instance that the Israeli government is involved?

CAMERON: No, there's not. But there are growing instincts in an awful lot of law enforcement officials in a variety of agencies who suspect that it had begun compiling evidence, and a highly classified investigation into that possibility * Brit.

[this user was banned]

Mostly that it's obvious that she's a shill and spoiler controlled by Russia. Exactly the same as Jill Stein was last go 'round.

No, Jill Stein was just a convenient idiot

[Teppler]

Part 4 of 4

Original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40981,00.html (File no longer available on Fox News.)

TONY SNOW, HOST: This week, senior correspondent Carl Cameron has reported on a longstanding government espionage investigation. Federal officials this year have arrested or detained nearly 200 Israeli citizens suspected of belonging to an "organized intelligence-gathering operation." The Bush administration has deported most of those arrested after Sept. 11, although some are in custody under the new anti-terrorism law.

Cameron also investigates the possibility that an Israeli firm generated billing data that could be used for intelligence purpose, and describes concerns that the federal government's own wiretapping system may be vulnerable. Tonight, in part four of the series, we'll learn about the probable roots of the probe: a drug case that went bad four years ago in L.A.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Los Angeles, 1997, a major local, state and federal drug investigating sours. The suspects: Israeli organized crime with operations in New York, Miami, Las Vegas, Canada, Israel and Egypt. The allegations: cocaine and ecstasy trafficking, and sophisticated white-collar credit card and computer fraud.

The problem: according to classified law enforcement documents obtained by Fox News, the bad guys had the cops’ beepers, cell phones, even home phones under surveillance. Some who did get caught admitted to having hundreds of numbers and using them to avoid arrest.

"This compromised law enforcement communications between LAPD detectives and other assigned law enforcement officers working various aspects of the case. The organization discovered communications between organized crime intelligence division detectives, the FBI and the Secret Service."

Shock spread from the DEA to the FBI in Washington, and then the CIA. An investigation of the problem, according to law enforcement documents, concluded, "The organization has apparent extensive access to database systems to identify pertinent personal and biographical information."

When investigators tried to find out where the information might have come from, they looked at Amdocs, a publicly traded firm based in Israel. Amdocs generates billing data for virtually every call in America, and they do credit checks. The company denies any leaks, but investigators still fear that the firm's data is getting into the wrong hands.

When investigators checked their own wiretapping system for leaks, they grew concerned about potential vulnerabilities in the computers that intercept, record and store the wiretapped calls. A main contractor is Comverse Infosys, which works closely with the Israeli government, and under a special grant program, is reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by Israel's Ministry of Industry and Trade.

Asked this week about another sprawling investigation and the detention of 60 Israeli since Sept. 11, the Bush administration treated the questions like hot potatoes.

ARI FLEISCHER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I would just refer you to the Department of Justice with that. I'm not familiar with the report.

COLIN POWELL, SECRETARY OF STATE: I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained. With respect to why they're being detained and the other aspects of your question * whether it's because they're in intelligence services, or what they were doing * I will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI to answer that.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CAMERON: Beyond the 60 apprehended or detained, and many deported since Sept. 11, another group of 140 Israeli individuals have been arrested and detained in this year in what government documents describe as "an organized intelligence gathering operation," designed to "penetrate government facilities." Most of those individuals said they had served in the Israeli military, which is compulsory there.

But they also had, most of them, intelligence expertise, and either worked for Amdocs or other companies in Israel that specialize in wiretapping. Earlier this week, the Israeli embassy in Washington denied any spying against or in the United States * Tony.

SNOW: Carl, we've heard the comments from Ari Fleischer and Colin Powell. What are officials saying behind the scenes?

CAMERON: Well, there's real pandemonium described at the FBI, the DEA and the INS. A lot of these problems have been well known to some investigators, many of who have contributed to the reporting on this story. And what they say is happening is supervisors and management are now going back and collecting much of the information, because there's tremendous pressure from the top levels of all of those agencies to find out exactly what's going on.

At the DEA and the FBI already a variety of administration reviews are under way, in addition to the investigation of the phenomenon. They want to find out how it is all this has come out, as well as be very careful because of the explosive nature and very political ramifications of the story itself * Tony.

SNOW: All right, Carl, thanks.

[Ripp]

The interesting thing is, what exactly has the Democratic party done over the past three years to help our nation?

The answer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've done nothing but try to impeach Trump with scam after scam after scam.

Sad. :(

[feniin]

Love the copy pasta spam.

Gabbard is a Russian operative. Basically confirmed by how much Teppler and the alt-right cult loves her.

Trump gloated on 9/11/01 about how his building was now the tallest in New York (Narrator: it wasn't)

[rebeccablack]

i would like to publicly apologize for prompting this

[feniin]

just a friendly piece of life advice: if your view of the world involves cartoon-style mustache twirling villains you have probably taken a left turn from reality somewhere

Hard (alt-)right turn, actually.

[Domo]

The interesting thing is, what exactly has the Democratic party done over the past three years to help our nation?

The answer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've done nothing but try to impeach Trump with scam after scam after scam.

Sad. :(

https://i.imgur.com/YUNkMY5.jpg

[feniin]

Fox News has learned

Let me stop you right there.

[feniin]

The interesting thing is, what exactly has the Democratic party done over the past three years to help our nation?

The answer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've done nothing but try to impeach Trump with scam after scam after scam.

Sad. :(

Attempting to secure the Constitution seems like the most patriotic thing they could be doing. :cool:

[Teppler]

The interesting thing is, what exactly has the Democratic party done over the past three years to help our nation?

The answer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've done nothing but try to impeach Trump with scam after scam after scam.

Sad. :(

Give money to non Americans and sponsor Joe Biden’s druggy son getting a 7 figure job he’s not qualified for. America first was such a genius tag line that absolutely stumps them. So simple too.

[Teppler]

Let me stop you right there.

Fox News shut that story down. Good luck finding it through fox. You have to go through the shadows of the web to find what I found there. You’re welcome for me educating you on this. What is your answer to earning about these intense Israeli spy rings and their knowledge of 9/11 before it happens? Is your answer really “muh Russians”?

[feniin]

Give money to non Americans and sponsor Joe Biden’s druggy son getting a 7 figure job he’s not qualified for. America first was such a genius tag line that absolutely stumps them. So simple too.

If this is the best you've got... oof.

Can I introduce you to Donald Trump, Jr.? Ivanka Trump? Eric Trump? Whatever Ivanka's husband's name is? Just about every single person appointed by Trump to a cabinet or ambassadorship based on donations and fealty pledges?

[feniin]

Fox News shut that story down. Good luck finding it through fox. You have to go through the shadows of the web to find what I found there. You’re welcome for me educating you on this. What is your answer to earning about these intense Israeli spy rings and their knowledge of 9/11 before it happens? Is your answer really “muh Russians”?

Well, there's nothing there and you're believing an alt-right/neo-nazi fantasy story. I can't help that.

[BallzDeep]

https://i.imgur.com/YUNkMY5.jpg

Nothing like a Non US Citizen that has very little understanding of policies posting memes on policies and attempting to "school" US citizens. Even more upsetting is the fact you have people on the left here cheering you on like you are a wealth of knowledge of our laws. I would distance myself from you if you were a Republican until you were a citizen or spent extensive time researching our history, they do the opposite.

Bet you couldn't even tell me any of the language in any of those House legislation.

[tsuchang]

Literally zero democrats support her. How's Moscow this winter?

Literally? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[Teppler]

I mean don’t these facts continue to show what a farce the russia narrative was from the very beginning. That we have these other spy rings that are never brought to public knowledge despite all the earth shattering evidence and instead they ask you to buy into this crack pot Russia theory that has no evidence to it?

Na I guess it doesn’t matter as much because CorrectTheRecord tells you reeeeeing about Russia is more important.

[Teppler]

Well, there's nothing there and you're believing an alt-right/neo-nazi fantasy story. I can't help that.

The story is really well done. I would challenge to name one part of it that is fantasy.

[Teppler]

If this is the best you've got... oof.

Can I introduce you to Donald Trump, Jr.? Ivanka Trump? Eric Trump? Whatever Ivanka's husband's name is? Just about every single person appointed by Trump to a cabinet or ambassadorship based on donations and fealty pledges?

You and me both know that’s not the best I have. I just don’t want to spend hours going into all of them.

[feniin]

You and me both know that’s not the best I have. I just don’t want to spend hours going into all of them.

Oh please do. Now that you're unemployed I suspect you'll have plenty of time to tell us all about it.

[Jimjam]

Am I really free to think that or will the government come lock me up for wrong think?

The US won't expatriate citizens to UK, even if they kill a kid with a car. You'll be safe from the UK while you stew away in the US.

[feniin]

Nothing like a Non US Citizen that has very little understanding of policies posting memes on policies and attempting to "school" US citizens. Even more upsetting is the fact you have people on the left here cheering you on like you are a wealth of knowledge of our laws. I would distance myself from you if you were a Republican until you were a citizen or spent extensive time researching our history, they do the opposite.

Bet you couldn't even tell me any of the language in any of those House legislation.

Do you have any knowledge of any of that legislation?

[Jimjam]

Also please start a podcast or youtube channel. I really loved that suggestion and your ideas and perspctives really intrigue me Tep. I'm infactuated! Can't stop coming back!

[feniin]

The story is really well done. I would challenge to name one part of it that is fantasy.

Probably the first part. The middle part. and that last little end bit. There's a reason it's not online anymore. It doesn't even meet Fox News' very low bar for journalistic integrity.

[Domo]

Nothing like a Non US Citizen that has very little understanding of policies posting memes on policies and attempting to "school" US citizens. Even more upsetting is the fact you have people on the left here cheering you on like you are a wealth of knowledge of our laws. I would distance myself from you if you were a Republican until you were a citizen or spent extensive time researching our history, they do the opposite.

Bet you couldn't even tell me any of the language in any of those House legislation.

You dont have to be a political genius to understand that the GOP is a party for the rich using dumb people by telling them that "the others" wants take away their freedom.

And dont get me wrong. America is not my country and my opinion to american politics dont (really) matter, but the fact that here are so many orange cock suckers telling me bullshit like that Trump is the most honest President ever, or that no other President ever been so pro America before etc. is a fucking insult to your and my intelligence hehe.

Vote for him, suck his cock, make him King or whatever but dont lie to me or yourself that everythink he tweets is gold.

[Teppler]

Probably the first part. The middle part. and that last little end bit. There's a reason it's not online anymore. It doesn't even meet Fox News' very low bar for journalistic integrity.

Any specifics you believe they got wrong?

The article largely deals with facts and simply speculated what it might mean. The lead into what was discovered in the 4th part was amazing.

How is it possible to be overly concerned about russia meddling but pay the overwhelming Israeli spying no mind?

[Teppler]

The US won't expatriate citizens to UK, even if they kill a kid with a car. You'll be safe from the UK while you stew away in the US.

I was jabbing that guy a little bit to illustrate the point that just because you can do something doesn’t mean your government is giving you the freedom to do it in your society.

He was making the argument that speech is still free if you say things but you get arrested afterwards.

I was continuously beating him over the head with the point that you don’t have a freedom if you are persecuted for the action afterwards.

Like you aren’t free to commit murder or rob someone because you gravely punished afterwards. Murder is not a freedom we have even though we are all physically able to commit murder.

He was trying to execute some pilpul about the word freedom and failed.

[Teppler]

You dont have to be a political genius to understand that the GOP is a party for the rich using dumb people by telling them that "the others" wants take away their freedom.

And dont get me wrong. America is not my country and my opinion to american politics dont (really) matter, but the fact that here are so many orange cock suckers telling me bullshit like that Trump is the most honest President ever, or that no other President ever been so pro America before etc. is a fucking insult to your and my intelligence hehe.

Vote for him, suck his cock, make him King or whatever but dont lie to me or yourself that everythink he tweets is gold.

If gop is the party of the rich then why do liberals largely own all media, higher learning and the left right line and shifted far left over the past 30 years. If GOP has all the money, how is this happening?

Tip- it’s not. Look at the stats. Establishment democrats are the party of elites.

[feniin]

I was jabbing that guy a little bit to illustrate the point that just because you can do something doesn’t mean your government is giving you the freedom to do it in your society.

He was making the argument that speech is still free if you say things but you get arrested afterwards.

I was continuously beating him over the head with the point that you don’t have a freedom if you are persecuted for the action afterwards.

Like you aren’t free to commit murder or rob someone because you gravely punished afterwards. Murder is not a freedom we have even though we are all physically able to commit murder.

He was trying to execute some pilpul about the word freedom and failed.

(((pilpul))) :o

[feniin]

If gop is the party of the rich then why do liberals largely own all media, higher learning and the left right line and shifted far left over the past 30 years. If GOP has all the money, how is this happening?

Tip- it’s not. Look at the stats. Establishment democrats are the party of elites.

Sounds like Regressives are sad nobody believes their garbage lies anymore?

[feniin]

Any specifics you believe they got wrong?

The article largely deals with facts and simply speculated what it might mean. The lead into what was discovered in the 4th part was amazing.

How is it possible to be overly concerned about russia meddling but pay the overwhelming Israeli spying no mind?

Fabricated stories about Jews by the alt-right cult don't really influence my opinion on Russia. Hope that helps.

[Domo]

GOP dont have all the money, but they take money from anyone.

I mean just look at your secretary of education Betsy DeVos, she bought herself the seat hehe. I find it very funny that such person who have like no experiance at all with politics or education became your secretary of education. All she had to do was send a check to the GOP /Trump. Thats funny and sad at the same time.

[Teppler]

Is regressives a play on the word progressives? Because that’s pretty true.

[Teppler]

GOP dont have all the money, but they take money from anyone.

I mean just look at your secretary of education Betsy DeVos, she bought herself the seat hehe. I find it very funny that such person who have like no experiance at all with politics or education became your secretary of education. All she had to do was send a check to the GOP /Trump. Thats funny and sad at the same time.

No experience. Kind of like Joe Biden’s son working that 7 figure job as a director of a foreign old company due to Biden’s blackmail efforts?

[Domo]

are you so critical about Kushner too like you're about Bidens son?

[Jimjam]

GOP dont have all the money, but they take money from anyone.

I mean just look at your secretary of education Betsy DeVos, she bought herself the seat hehe. I find it very funny that such person who have like no experiance at all with politics or education became your secretary of education. All she had to do was send a check to the GOP /Trump. Thats funny and sad at the same time.

There is a similar problem in the UK. Career politicians that never held a real job being made ministers of departments of which they have no understanding.

[Teppler]

are you so critical about Kushner too like you're about Bidens son?

Yes. Kushner is my least favorite part about trump and I wish he would fuck off.

[Teppler]

Fabricated stories about Jews by the alt-right cult don't really influence my opinion on Russia. Hope that helps.

This is a story from like early 2000s. Lmao that alt right boogeynman huh? Again, thenstory largely deals with facts and investigates. I’m still wondering which part they got wrong specifically.

[feniin]

Yes. Kushner is my least favorite part about trump and I wish he would fuck off.

Can't imagine why that would be. :o

[Domo]

What about Ivanka? I mean she isnt part of Trumps admistration...but somehow she isnt?
Do anyone know what role she plays in Trumps admistration? She wasnt voted in as far as i know..

[feniin]

No experience. Kind of like Joe Biden’s son working that 7 figure job as a director of a foreign old company due to Biden’s blackmail efforts?

Is anyone in Trump's administration qualified for the job they currently hold?

[feniin]

This is a story from like early 2000s. Lmao that alt right boogeynman huh? Again, thenstory largely deals with facts and investigates. I’m still wondering which part they got wrong specifically.

If you're into fiction it's an interesting read. Might I recommend a Tom Clancy novel?

[Teppler]

This is a nice lesson for onlookers about how much these people actually care about spying going on in this US. 0. It’s all about the CNN narrative.

[feniin]

This is a nice lesson for onlookers about how much these people actually care about spying going on in this US. 0. It’s all about the CNN narrative.

(((these people)))

Want to throw us into a cage, too?

[Teppler]

(((these people)))

Want to throw us into a cage, too?

Na I love clowning on you. You are my living best case against liberalism. Stick around.

[Teppler]

What about Ivanka? I mean she isnt part of Trumps admistration...but somehow she isnt?
Do anyone know what role she plays in Trumps admistration? She wasnt voted in as far as i know..

Lol no I don’t care for Ivanka.

On a 1-10

Soros is a 1 Kushner is a 3 Ivanka is a 4 Trump is like a 7.

I’d say that’s my scale of how much I like each of these people. I don’t even care for Trump THAT much he’s just the best option we have and it’s not close.

[feniin]

Lol no I don’t care for Ivanka.

On a 1-10

Soros is a 1 Kushner is a 3 Ivanka is a 4 Trump is like a 7.

I’d say that’s my scale of how much I like each of these people. I don’t even care for Trump THAT much he’s just the best option we have and it’s not close.

What is it about the big bad boogeyman that you don't like?

Where is that list of legal scholars that affirms your belief that Trump shouldn't be impeached?

[feniin]

Na I love clowning on you. You are my living best case against liberalism. Stick around.

:confused:You think you're winning some sort of game?

[feniin]

Rick Wiles Says He’s Stockpiling Ammunition to Prepare for a ‘Violent Civil War’ Between ‘Pagan Left’ and ‘Religious Right’ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-says-hes-stockpiling-ammunition-to-prepare-for-a-violent-civil-war-between-pagan-left-and-religious-right/)

End Times broadcaster, rabid anti-Semite, and radical right-wing conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles kicked off his “TruNews” broadcast last night by announcing that he has begun stockpiling ammunition in response to yesterday’s announcement by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that the House would begin drafting articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.

Wiles, who recently warned that “there is going to be violence in America” if Trump is removed from office, said that Pelosi’s announcement has forced millions of Americans to start preparing for the possibility of civil war.

“Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Eliot Engel, Brad Sherman, and Charles Schumer are compelling calm, law-abiding, middle-class American citizens to prepare for the unthinkable: a violent civil war in America fought between the pagan left and the religious right,” Wiles said. “Their actions are compelling me and others to immediately get ready to defend our families, our personal lives, and our properties if violence erupts in America over the impeachment and ouster of President Trump.”

“The Democrats are forcing me to stockpile ammunition, food, water, and medical supplies to defend my family, home, and church,” he added. “This is a bad dream that won’t end, and it’s brought to you by the Trump haters.”

“I strongly encourage you to take immediate action to prepare your home and family for the worst,” Wiles advised his audience. “Don’t foolishly dismiss my warning that a revolution could erupt, or widespread civil disruptions, even civil war.”

LOOK WHAT YOU'RE MAKING ME DO

[BallzDeep]

Do you have any knowledge of any of that legislation?

No but I am not posting memes or gotcha's that I can't speak to. When you asked me about Sinclair, I said I don't really know that much then decided to spend some time researching. If I am going to post a meme, I'd hope I could talk about it and it have some relevance in my government.

[Jimjam]

RUSSIA(tm) always feels like a 20th century bogeyman.

Until they murder ex spies with poison in England a couple of times. Maybe they are in the game still.

[BallzDeep]

Rick Wiles Says He’s Stockpiling Ammunition to Prepare for a ‘Violent Civil War’ Between ‘Pagan Left’ and ‘Religious Right’ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-says-hes-stockpiling-ammunition-to-prepare-for-a-violent-civil-war-between-pagan-left-and-religious-right/)



LOOK WHAT YOU'RE MAKING ME DO


I guess you just don't understand other walks of life. What he is saying is that if Trump were to be impeached, it's a political move to try to salvage the election for the Democrats since we have pointed out there are just as capable of being scumbags. As of right now, it sounds like he enjoys the 2nd amendment and believes his rights should not be infringed upon with laws on assault rifles. Every Democratic candidate is arguing for laws based on that. When you feel your rights are infringed, the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment was to rebel. Everyone has a line in sand. For some people its the right to defend yourself, for some people it's slavery, for some people it's speech.

If Trump were to be impeached and a Democratic candidate won and drafted laws that infringed upon his rights to own a firearms.

[feniin]

I guess you just don't understand other walks of life. What he is saying is that if Trump were to be impeached, it's a political move to try to salvage the election for the Democrats since we have pointed out there are just as capable of being scumbags. As of right now, it sounds like he enjoys the 2nd amendment and believes his rights should not be infringed upon with laws on assault rifles. Every Democratic candidate is arguing for laws based on that. When you feel your rights are infringed, the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment was to rebel. Everyone has a line in sand. For some people its the right to defend yourself, for some people it's slavery, for some people it's speech.

If Trump were to be impeached and a Democratic candidate won and drafted laws that infringed upon his rights to own a firearms.

Fear mongering among the alt-right cult is staggering. Why is 2A the only one that the alt-right cult believes in?

[Jimjam]

If Trump was impeached why would a Democrat win?

[Teppler]

I've got a good joke for you guys.

A priest and a rabbi walk down the street and see a 10 year old boy.

The priest says, "Want to fuck him?"

The rabbi replies, "Out of what?"

[galach]

merging this into the politics thread.

[feniin]

merging this into the politics thread.

Was wondering why we needed 4 politics threads :p

[BallzDeep]

Fear mongering among the alt-right cult is staggering. Why is 2A the only one that the alt-right cult believes in?

Because the second amendment protects the first. Hope this helps.

[feniin]

Because the second amendment protects the first. Hope this helps.

The Second Amendment is antiquated and doesn't make sense in a modern, civilized society.

[Teppler]

The Second Amendment is antiquated and doesn't make sense in a modern, civilized society.

No. They are designed to be timeless. The purpose is that we can arm ourselves against tyrannical government overstepping.

Do tyrannical governments not exist anymore? Did I miss something where we eliminated them from ever existing again?

You just don’t agree or respect the amendment, it’s not that it’s outdated.

[Jimjam]

I swear we covered this a fortnight ago. 2nd A is a nice intention, but small arms aren't enough. You need support from the army or an outside nation to overthrow a tyranny. Look at the war of independence. This was true even then.

Thanks France!

[Ripp]

The Second Amendment is antiquated and doesn't make sense in a modern, civilized society.

This is why you and your ilk are so dangerous. Your cheer on the destruction of our very existence and you have absolutely no clue what you are doing.

You want to take away freedom of speech. You want to take away our right to bear arms. And once that happens, it's lights out. What you preach is dangerous and traitorous.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

~ Thomas Jefferson

[feniin]

This is why you and your ilk are so dangerous. Your cheer on the destruction of our very existence and you have absolutely no clue what you are doing.

You want to take away freedom of speech. You want to take away our right to bear arms. And once that happens, it's lights out. What you preach is dangerous and traitorous.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

~ Thomas JeffersonThomas Jefferson didn't have automatic weapons.

[Ripp]

Thomas Jefferson didn't have automatic weapons.

Neither did the government.

[feniin]

No. They are designed to be timeless. The purpose is that we can arm ourselves against tyrannical government overstepping.

Do tyrannical governments not exist anymore? Did I miss something where we eliminated them from ever existing again?

You just don’t agree or respect the amendment, it’s not that it’s outdated.

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

[Domo]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

a.k.a. amish 2.0

[BallzDeep]

I swear we covered this a fortnight ago. 2nd A is a nice intention, but small arms aren't enough. You need support from the army or an outside nation to overthrow a tyranny. Look at the war of independence. This was true even then.

Thanks France!

France didn't help until the end of the war and the civilian army is the largest in the US. They just reported that there are 423 million guns in the US. There have been several overthrows of government from the people. Check out on google.

The war of independence was a major upset to the largest empire in the world at the time and carried out by civilians with small arms. The French assisted at the end of the world and in no part are the largest contribution to the war. It is extremely bad taste to discredit people who fought for independence at the time.

The argument that you need an outside force to help you control your own problems is absurd and that is the current problem Hong Kong is facing. They are asking for help. This is also true in the aspect that the shear amount of self defense cases with use of a firearm.

The point is that if the government removes the second amendment and then decides to impede on the first, what action do you have besides asking another government?

[BallzDeep]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

Regressive is impeding on the right to defend yourself by any means necessary against evil people. Regressive is trying to manipulate a document that YOU believe isn't up to speed when rights should never change. That is the point. Freedom of rights should always be the same.

[feniin]

France didn't help until the end of the war and the civilian army is the largest in the US. They just reported that there are 423 million guns in the US. There have been several overthrows of government from the people. Check out on google.

The war of independence was a major upset to the largest empire in the world at the time and carried out by civilians with small arms. The French assisted at the end of the world and in no part are the largest contribution to the war. It is extremely bad taste to discredit people who fought for independence at the time.

The argument that you need an outside force to help you control your own problems is absurd and that is the current problem Hong Kong is facing. They are asking for help. This is also true in the aspect that the shear amount of self defense cases with use of a firearm.

The point is that if the government removes the second amendment and then decides to impede on the first, what action do you have besides asking another government?

I've got a mighty fine bridge to sell you if you think that any weaponry you have in your house would be effective against a hostile US government.

[feniin]

Regressive is impeding on the right to defend yourself by any means necessary against evil people. Regressive is trying to manipulate a document that YOU believe isn't up to speed when rights should never change. That is the point. Freedom of rights should always be the same.

We've added quite a few rights and taken away others. Why is this one special?

[BallzDeep]

I've got a mighty fine bridge to sell you if you think that any weaponry you have in your house would be effective against a hostile US government.

Lol I'd love to hear about weaponry and war tactics from a stay at home bookkeeper that does not believe in the right to self defense with a semi automatic rifle.

My rifles are the same calibers as many rifles out there. They are the same caliber as in use by military's across the world. If you hit your target, it has the same effect. If you think some foreign military is going to just nuke the shit out of someone, it just shows how naive you are. There is something called mutually assured destruction when it comes to nukes and an agreement that is kept between the largest nations. No one gets a nuke off before the other one sends theirs too.

If someone were to invade whether domestic or foreign, you need to establish ground forces. With 40 million+ armed civilians, it is very hard to invade the large land mass that we have and when you have guerrilla forces of even a modest 5 million causing havoc. Most standing military's are no where near that size.

[BallzDeep]

We've added quite a few rights and taken away others. Why is this one special?

Because even as you stated - if the government has superior firepower, we are many and many can do more than a few. If you give people the right to organize when something is immoral and overthrow the oppressor with a sometimes needed force, they need to be able to arm themselves. Being able to arm and organize protects speech, oppression and immoral acts. The problem being if you aren't willing to use force and they are, you have to comply.

[feniin]

Lol I'd love to hear about weaponry and war tactics from a stay at home bookkeeper that does not believe in the right to self defense with a semi automatic rifle.

My rifles are the same calibers as many rifles out there. They are the same caliber as in use by military's across the world. If you hit your target, it has the same effect. If you think some foreign military is going to just nuke the shit out of someone, it just shows how naive you are. There is something called mutually assured destruction when it comes to nukes and an agreement that is kept between the largest nations. No one gets a nuke off before the other one sends theirs too.

If someone were to invade whether domestic or foreign, you need to establish ground forces. With 40 million+ armed civilians, it is very hard to invade the large land mass that we have and when you have guerrilla forces of even a modest 5 million causing havoc. Most standing military's are no where near that size.

Can't wait for the forced buyback and removal of guns. Going to be glorious to know that political and religious zealots won't have access to them. I'm infinitely more worried an alt-right cultist incel is going to snap and shoot up a mall than any boogeyman you can produce about the big bad government.

[Teppler]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

Pilpul. We all know you want to subvert it. I’ll repeat again, its largely all timeless. Unless you can make an overwhelming argument, which you clearly can’t.

[feniin]

Pilpul. We all know you want to subvert it. I’ll repeat again, its largely all timeless. Unless you can make an overwhelming argument, which you clearly can’t.

Why do you keep using that white supremacist buzzword?

[Ripp]

Why do you keep using that white supremacist buzzword?

Here it comes. It was just a matter of time before you started throwing out false 'raciss' allegations again. Don't agree with you? Call them racist or other derogatory terms. It's pathetic.

You are a sad individual. :cool:

[feniin]

Here it comes. It was just a matter of time before you started throwing out false 'raciss' allegations again. Don't agree with you? Call them racist or other derogatory terms. It's pathetic.

You are a sad individual. :cool:

I didn't call him a racist. I asked why he was using a popular white supremacist word. Guilty conscience much?

[Teppler]

I didn't call him a racist. I asked why he was using a popular white supremacist word. Guilty conscience much?

Your claim is that I have racist words in my vocabulary therefore racist. He’s right.

[Ripp]

I didn't call him a racist. I asked why he was using a popular white supremacist word. Guilty conscience much?

You just projected and inferred I'm a racist. You throw derogatory names and false accusations around so much that you don't even know what you're saying.

Hypocrisy much?

Sad.

[feniin]

Your claim is that I have racist words in my vocabulary therefore racist. He’s right.

Do you deny the white supremacist usage of (((pilpul)))? :confused:

[Teppler]

Do you deny the white supremacist usage of (((pilpul)))? :confused:

I don’t know I’ve never seen a significant faction of white supremacists.

[feniin]

I don’t know I’ve never seen a significant faction of white supremacists.

Oh, where'd you pick up the word? Who uses it in polite conversation?

[Ripp]

Oh, where'd you pick up the word? Who uses it in polite conversation?

I've never even heard of the term so I looked it up:

The Hebrew term pilpul (Hebrew: פלפול, from "pepper," loosely meaning "sharp analysis") refers to a method of studying the Talmud through intense textual analysis in attempts to either explain conceptual differences between various halakhic rulings or to reconcile any apparent contradictions presented from various readings of different texts.[1] Pilpul has entered English as a colloquialism used by some to indicate extreme disputation or casuistic hairsplitting.

What the heck does that have to do with racism or white supremacy?

I think that you're so eager to slap 'raciss' on anyone who disagrees with you that you've become blinded by your hatred.

You might be the most hypocritical person I've talked to. It's very sad. You should learn to let go of your hate, it's only going to eat you up. :cool:

[feniin]

I've never even heard of the term so I looked it up:

The Hebrew term pilpul (Hebrew: פלפול, from "pepper," loosely meaning "sharp analysis") refers to a method of studying the Talmud through intense textual analysis in attempts to either explain conceptual differences between various halakhic rulings or to reconcile any apparent contradictions presented from various readings of different texts.[1] Pilpul has entered English as a colloquialism used by some to indicate extreme disputation or casuistic hairsplitting.

What the heck does that have to do with racism or white supremacy?

I think that you're so eager to slap 'raciss' on anyone who disagrees with you that you've become blinded by your hatred.

You might be the most hypocritical person I've talked to. It's very sad. You should learn to let go of your hate, it's only going to eat you up. :cool:
Ahh yeah, my bad. Known anti-Jews casually using Jewish terminology is totally normal. I'm sorry. There's clearly no ulterior motive.

[Ripp]

Ahh yeah, my bad. Known anti-Jews casually using Jewish terminology is totally normal. I'm sorry. There's clearly no ulterior motive.

From reading your comments it seems that perhaps you're the one who's got a problem with races and religions. You spew allegations at people when you have no clue who they are or what they're beliefs are.

Like I said, it's sad and pathetic. You're just a hateful person.

[feniin]

From reading your comments it seems that perhaps you're the one who's got a problem with races and religions. You spew allegations at people when you have no clue who they are or what they're beliefs are.

Like I said, it's sad and pathetic. You're just a hateful person.

Not going to quote his posts because I don't want to take a two week vacation with Horza. Not sure why I bother to argue with you trolls. Masochism I guess.

[Ripp]

Not going to quote his posts because I don't want to take a two week vacation with Horza. Not sure why I bother to argue with you trolls. Masochism I guess.

So now we're trolls too?

Any other false terms/claims you want to throw out there? Might as well get it all out in the open, might be liberating for you. :cool:

[feniin]

So now we're trolls too?

Any other false terms/claims you want to throw out there? Might as well get it all out in the open, might be liberating for you. :cool:

I heard you secretly love Obama :eek:

[BallzDeep]

Can't wait for the forced buyback and removal of guns. Going to be glorious to know that political and religious zealots won't have access to them. I'm infinitely more worried an alt-right cultist incel is going to snap and shoot up a mall than any boogeyman you can produce about the big bad government.

Glad to know you are okay with throwing people who never committed a crime but want a gun to defend themselves in jail. Real humanitarian over here. Sounds like you are happy to strip people of their rights. You should look up in the world if you are statistically more likely to be killed by a mall shooting by an alt-right cultist incel or by your own government or a foreign government and get back to me on that. I can tell you are very shit at bookkeeping, you don't even know how to weigh basic stats.

You are a very backwards individual. Claims you are doing things from a moral standpoint. Okay with stripping good people that would help and defend other people of their firearm. Uses words like racist, alt-right, cultist to feel superior in the conversation on a moral standpoint but that is not something you can prove. Never contributes any solutions but always talks about forcing people to his opinion. Says we don't need guns in modern times because the government won't impede on our rights, then in the same sentence says he wants the government to impede on our rights and can't wait. Still claims he is a reasonable person and a beacon of shining light......

[feniin]

(mostly trolling you)

[BallzDeep]

(mostly trolling you)

A dad that is also a troll, good one.

[feniin]

A dad that is also a troll, good one.

What's it like being an incel? Do you look at every woman and think "she'd be better off with me?" And then call her a whore?

[BallzDeep]

What's it like being an incel? Do you look at every woman and think "she'd be better off with me?" And then call her a whore?

You sound very angry right now. Do you always just pretend to have a conversation for someone and assume what their sexual life is like or is that something special to this occasion? Seems like a very common thing for you and would almost say its on the line of a mental disability.

I'm pretty sure you can also be married and still be an incel. A bookkeeping stay at home dad that doesn't wear the pants in the family typically don't marry the hottest women and might not be getting laid often. Jealously sets in towards the younger guys that actually have money and get the women. Married dad thinks women are shit because they go after younger, more responsible men. Married stay at home dad is an incel.

[feniin]

You sound very angry right now. Do you always just pretend to have a conversation for someone and assume what their sexual life is like or is that something special to this occasion? Seems like a very common thing for you and would almost say its on the line of a mental disability.

I'm pretty sure you can also be married and still be an incel. A bookkeeping stay at home dad that doesn't wear the pants in the family typically don't marry the hottest women and might not be getting laid often. Jealously sets in towards the younger guys that actually have money and get the women. Married stay at home dad is an incel.

Your backwards relationship with women's rights, modern family life, and your propensity to be just a general asshole tells me you're involuntarily celibate. Sorry?

[BallzDeep]

Your backwards relationship with women's rights, modern family life, and your propensity to be just a general asshole tells me you're involuntarily celibate. Sorry?

Women's rights? What have I said about women's rights? You seem to try to make alot of stuff up and that's deeply concerning as an adult male.

Just so you know a stay at home dad is OUTSIDE the norm. Outside. Stop getting mad at people that don't agree with you. So if that's the case 75% of the US is involuntarily celibate somehow.

Me being an asshole is just you butthurt because your a dad that said he was trolling then I told you that was stupid and you responded with trying to personally attack someone as an incel. Very hypocritical coming from the guy who always tries to point out personal attacks. And you wanted to discuss backwards? You make up shit. Assume people are racist or an incel or whatever stupid term you found on the internet that week and then consistently project personal attacks on people and try to be the personal attack police. Perfect example as why the mother probably needs more involvement. And yes, I'm giving women credit there.

[BadOrangeMan]

Shhhhh, you'll wake up Feniin's wife's son.

[Reddarok]

Is this the forum where people un register to vote?

[zodium]

TRUMO

[Asteria]

Women's rights? What have I said about women's rights? You seem to try to make alot of stuff up and that's deeply concerning as an adult male.

Just so you know a stay at home dad is OUTSIDE the norm. Outside. Stop getting mad at people that don't agree with you. So if that's the case 75% of the US is involuntarily celibate somehow.

Me being an asshole is just you butthurt because your a dad that said he was trolling then I told you that was stupid and you responded with trying to personally attack someone as an incel. Very hypocritical coming from the guy who always tries to point out personal attacks. And you wanted to discuss backwards? You make up shit. Assume people are racist or an incel or whatever stupid term you found on the internet that week and then consistently project personal attacks on people and try to be the personal attack police. Perfect example as why the mother probably needs more involvement. And yes, I'm giving women credit there.

IM TALKING



NO

[Jimjam]

Lol I’ve simply said political protest and harsh violence is often called for when the elected politicians do not serve their people anymore. You’re trying to morph this into some idea I’m telling you to attack a specific person? I’m not sure if the rest of this post is directed at me, seems like a bit of a non sensical ramble.

Note I didn't suggest T was trying to get me to murder a specific person. Just he was inciting a general uprising of murder of the political class. I had to go back to check whether Teppler actually did encourage the murder of democratically elected representatives.

UK needs a strong leader atm the moment to come in and hang the traitors.

If the UK had guns, I doubt this assault against the common people would be happening. What a shame.

Muh Jo Cox. You better stop your behavior right now or you’ll get more of the intended result!!! (literally mocking and endorsing the victim, an mp, of a political murder here).

T: you should kill people. Someone already was killed? Great start!

Also T: I never suggested you should kill people.

[feniin]

Is this the forum where people un register to vote?

Most of these guys are on a list and ineligible to vote.

[Asteria]

Note I didn't suggest T was trying to get me to murder a specific person. Just he was inciting a general uprising of murder of the political class. I had to go back to check whether Teppler actually did encourage the murder of democratically elected representatives.


(literally mocking and endorsing the victim, an mp, of a political murder here).

T: you should kill people. Someone already was killed? Great start!

Also T: I never suggested you should kill people.


YOU'RE A CHUMP!! Does your Mommy have to hear this garbage?

[feniin]

So glad that Valeryia is back.

[BadOrangeMan]

Most of these guys are on a list and ineligible to vote.

That's your dream. Put everyone who doesn't vote for your side on a list and deny them the right to vote.

Typical leftist.

[feniin]

That's your dream. Put everyone who doesn't vote for your side on a list and deny them the right to vote.

Typical leftist.

Oof. Stop projecting.

[Teppler]

Oof. Stop projecting.

Theres very few accusations liberals put out there that aren’t obvious projections. You are the biggest culprit I’ve ever seen. Everyone that’s not a rabid leftist here sees and agrees with it. Even the mods who have told you and your close buddies you’re going too far quite a few times.

[Asteria]

Theres very few accusations liberals put out there that aren’t obvious projections. You are the biggest culprit I’ve ever seen. Everyone that’s not a rabid leftist here sees and agrees with it. Even the mods who have told you and your close buddies you’re going too far quite a few times.

Let's have coffee today, call me an uber at 9am?

PLS PLS Don't talk like this until ive had a couple cups of coffee and met a far more interesting and handsome man to invite over to our table?

[feniin]

Theres very few accusations liberals put out there that aren’t obvious projections. You are the biggest culprit I’ve ever seen. Everyone that’s not a rabid leftist here sees and agrees with it. Even the mods who have told you and your close buddies you’re going too far quite a few times.

Hey, when are you going to provide a list of lawyers that say Trump shouldn't be impeached? I've got about 500 that say he should.

[Teppler]

Hey, when are you going to provide a list of lawyers that say Trump shouldn't be impeached? I've got about 500 that say he should.

It was at the hearing. There were 4-5 legal experts and none of them could produce a legal argument in facts that amounted to any violation of the constitution in anything firm whatsoever. And impeachment is supposed to be about having something extremely firm otherwise it’s gravely disrupting the American political discourses needed for America to be at its best.

One even had to go screeching about Barron Trump.

It ended up being just another partisan sham for the liberals that people are increasingly tuning out as the days go on.

[feniin]

It was at the hearing. There were 4-5 legal experts and none of them could produce a legal argument in facts that amounted to any violation of the constitution in anything firm whatsoever. And impeachment is supposed to be about having something extremely firm otherwise it’s gravely disrupting the American political discourses needed for America to be at its best.

One even had to go screeching about Barron Trump.

It ended up being just another partisan sham for the liberals that people are increasingly tuning out as the days go on.
Oh, so you made it all up.

[feniin]

Trump spoke to Sheldon Adelson's club of Republican Jews in Vegas. Everyone in the room is a campaign donor, so they're supposed to be American citizens. Trump referred to Netanyahu as "your prime minister". He doesn't even count the Republican Jews handing him money as real Americans. Imagine how he feels about the 75% of Jews that consistently vote for Democrats.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/08/trump-calls-netanyahu-your-prime-minister-jewish-american-event/3398487002/

[Teppler]

^ divisive identity politics and propaganda vs the most pro Jewish president of all time by his actions. These people pushing this stuff hate the idea of Americans coming together.

[feniin]

^ divisive identity politics and propaganda vs the most pro Jewish president of all time by his actions. These people pushing this stuff hate the idea of Americans coming together.

Or he's just an idiot?

[Kaveh]

^ divisive identity politics and propaganda vs the most pro Jewish president of all time by his actions. These people pushing this stuff hate the idea of Americans coming together.

Yeah he really is a useful idiot for the Israeli lobby

[Wonkie]

there's always podcasting if you have a face for radio :p

[BadOrangeMan]

Oof. Stop projecting.

And yet you can't accept that Donald Trump is your duly elected president. You only tolerate voting when it goes your way.

[Wonkie]

“I’m more disappointed by how fat he is than anything”

[Asteria]

LOL

Orange >> Fat:p

[Kaveh]

“I’m more disappointed by how fat he is than anything”

And he hasn’t aged like Obama, Bush, or Clinton. You can tell he doesn’t care. Those guys worried so much about what they were doing that it took years off their lives. The fat man doesn’t give a damn

[Wonkie]

anyone got some good podcasts

[feniin]

anyone got some good podcasts

I bet some of those alt-right ones are really entertaining. Teppler, know any good ones?

[Asteria]

anyone got some good podcasts

The Intercept - interview w Cory Doctorow (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYcQAttnhM)

[Kaveh]

I listen to the intelligence by the Economist. Warning; it’s for people with money and brains, aka very centrist politically

Most of you won’t like it. 3 world news stories, 20 minutes every week day

[BallzDeep]

anyone got some good podcasts

Depends on what you are looking for but good opinions of conservative programs are the Rubin Report, The Daily Wire, Louder with Crowder, Petersen motivational stuff is always good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-VBctp-suw

If you don't want to listen to some opposition - Rogan has mind numbing countless hours of shit. If you don't like Rogan that's one thing but you can't hate literally all the guests he has had on his show. Joey Diaz has some crazy people with stories. Gamer style would be like H3 or something. Ted Talks always has some good motivational shit.

Otherwise I'll just bullshit on Colion Noir for gun videos, NFL podcasts or something like Banking weekly just to get a little up and up. Done a few of the murder mystery as well - Serial and a few others that were pretty good.

[Wonkie]

The Intercept - interview w Cory Doctorow (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYcQAttnhM)

Trip report: I don't associate with Glenn Greenwald since he burned a whistleblower to death. Sorry!

I listen to the intelligence by the Economist. Warning; it’s for people with money and brains, aka very centrist politically

Most of you won’t like it. 3 world news stories, 20 minutes every week day

Trip report: Oil be going: Canada’s separatist west
19 hours ago · 20 min · (46.1MB)

The Sweden story ruled as it mostly obliterated the wealth tax idea Warren has which was funny, the Canada story was OK - these separatist movements never go anywhere so I consider it an entertaining waste of time, the startup story made me furious and was too long.

In summation, The Economist podcast is a land of contrasts.

[Jimjam]

I used to read the Economist rag a lot, but they fell out of my favour as I didn't like their more recent online articles so much (well those from a few years ago).

Is the podcast really that good? Maybe it is time to give them another chance.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Max Keiser is always a good shout for Economics. Search youtube for "The Keiser Report"

[Teppler]

Looks like Q is real. Called out that they would misspell Comey's name in the report 1 year ago before it happens.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1204145553690378240.html

[Kaveh]

Lol, teppler man please go to a psychiatrist. You are dangerously disconnected from reality

[feniin]

Lol, teppler man please go to a psychiatrist. You are dangerously disconnected from reality

[Teppler]

In the past 5 years:
- Hillary while working as Secretary of State was bringing in $Millions to the Clinton Foundation from dozens of foreign countries
- Hillary paid a foreigner, Chris Steele, to cook up a fake "dossier" full of lies
- Biden's son was getting $50,000 a month from Ukranian energy companies
- Biden was pressuring Ukraine to fire prosecutors looking into it, or else Biden was going to hold off giving over money
- Comey and McCabe were using the fake "dossier" to get FISA wiretaps on Trump

There is almost no outrage nationwide to the above set of facts, there is no "other side", to have a Civil War, there must be 2 sides or more. In America, we don't have 2 sides, we have Globalist Liberals running the media, schools, just about every level of government.... there is no resistance to them... even our GOP Presidential Nominees such as McCain and Romney are part of the same group

[feniin]

Facts is an interesting way to describe shit you made up. You're not special. You don't have any insight. You're copypasta spamming inane babble from other disturbed people. I don't know how to get through to you.

Help Wonkie and suggest a podcast. Maybe he can figure you out.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Doubtless he attends many rallies, goes door to door for his cause and protests publically against these outrages. He wouldn't just post up on an Everquest forum about it such is his rage at the injustices of the left.

[Teppler]

You literally cannot refute this:

Qanon spent most of this year misspelling FBI director Comey as CoRNey.
The IG Report spells Comeys name CoRNey every single time. They tightened the spacing between the "rn" to make it look like an "m"

Check for yourself:
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/x1vQzNR.jpg

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

You guys need James Bond to sort this out.

Or maybe Jarnes Bond :D

[feniin]

This is some severely unhinged behavior, even for you, Teppler. Please seek help.

[Jimjam]

You literally cannot refute this:

Qanon spent most of this year misspelling FBI director Comey as CoRNey.
The IG Report spells Comeys name CoRNey every single time. They tightened the spacing between the "rn" to make it look like an "m"

Check for yourself:
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/x1vQzNR.jpg

What is teppling anyway?

[Teppler]

You guys need James Bond to sort this out.

Or maybe Jarnes Bond :D

How about 2019 liberal multicultural non white James Bond replacement, Laquisha Bond 007?

https://i.imgur.com/kNcivCh.jpg

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Sure why not. I couldn't care less if they made James Bond a black woman :D

Sorry did you think by slandering James Bond you would somehow hit a great british nerve :D

[galach]

If you are ban evading and I see a new account that is primarily posting in here or the impeach thread I am going to perma ban the forum alt. I really don't like reading through either thread and hate more disciplining someone and for them just to switch over to another account.

[feniin]

Rest in Pieces, BadOrangeMan

[BallzDeep]

Never been banned checking in.

[BallzDeep]

Galach - you should just go ahead and confirm or deny alt accounts. For the sake of science, I'd love to see how the split comes out with people not trying to recreate their own echo chamber with themselves. I could be wrong but would be interesting to see if some of these are truly legitimate.

[Kaveh]

You literally cannot refute this:

Qanon spent most of this year misspelling FBI director Comey as CoRNey.
The IG Report spells Comeys name CoRNey every single time. They tightened the spacing between the "rn" to make it look like an "m"

Check for yourself:
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/x1vQzNR.jpg

What does this prove and how does it provide evidence of your point?

[Ripp]

Galach - you should just go ahead and confirm or deny alt accounts. For the sake of science, I'd love to see how the split comes out with people not trying to recreate their own echo chamber with themselves. I could be wrong but would be interesting to see if some of these are truly legitimate.

I'm all for this. :D

Unfortunately, I don't think we'd learn the facts. Would be interested to know though.

[BallzDeep]

who's even banned right now that it could be an alt? :confused:

Could say the same for Horza. Gotta be someones alter ego. No way you go from 100 to 0. I'm open for either side. Really just curious as the total number of individuals from each side that have posted here, no additional noise.

[Ripp]

Could say the same for Horza. Gotta be someones alter ego. No way you go from 100 to 0. I'm open for either side. Really just curious as the total number of individuals from each side that have posted here, no additional noise.

Agreed. Fair is fair, regardless of beliefs.

[Tethler]

Never been banned checking in.

Same, heh. Some people here are growing forum neckbeards and don't even have 20 year old pixels to show for it.

[Tethler]

https://i.imgur.com/x1vQzNR.jpg

Just....lol

[Domo]

found this commect on reddit:

"Sometimes it helps to take 'Trump' out and replace it with POTUS just to get a grasp of how fucking outrageous shit is."

- The President of the United States calls FBI 'scum'
- The President of the United States Complains that it Takes 15 Flushes to Get His Shit Down the Toilet
- The President of the United States called himself a ‘very stable genius’, then quoted himself calling himself a very stable genius, then thanked himself for quoting himself calling himself a ‘very stable genius’.
...

[Kaveh]

Leave dissent to Americans. Your freedom only exists due to our ancestors.

hope this helps Red Army Faction!

[Domo]

did I hit a nerve? awwww

https://i.imgur.com/kG941yL.jpg

[Teppler]

Same, heh. Some people here are growing forum neckbeards and don't even have 20 year old pixels to show for it.

If you posted more you would get banned easily. You personal attack like crazy.

[feniin]

If you posted more you would get banned easily. You personal attack like crazy.https://imgur.com/v2LLJXb.jpg

[feniin]

https://imgur.com/v2LLJXb.jpg

[suptoofs]

At least my politicians aren't trying to fuck that.

Teppler that is one disgusting post, even for you.

[Kaveh]

Teppler that is one disgusting post, even for you.

It’s also factually inaccurate. See: Roy Moore

[suptoofs]

It’s also factually inaccurate. See: Roy Moore

While I agree with you, I wasn't going to delve into the whether it is accurate/inaccurate. I am absolutely disgusted that Teppler would post something like that.

Big difference between political discussion/argument and that.

[Teppler]

Except you’re a fucking retard if you’re citing Roy Moore in this case. I didn’t like the guys politics but the man was railroaded. The big evidence against Roy Moore was a mall ban that no one ever confirmed and a year book that turned out to have a forged signature by Moore. Never Drumphers John McCain and Mitt Romney led the charge to pressure him to drop out. Same guys are buddies with Obama’s/Clinton’s.... buddies of Epstein and business partners of Podesta.

Meanwhile, you all saw the art work Podesta hangs in his home. Nice work supporting pedohpiles guys.

[feniin]

https://imgur.com/v2LLJXb.jpg

[Domo]

Did you believed (or still believe ) in " #Pizzagate " Teppler?

[Teppler]

Did you believed (or still believe ) in " #Pizzagate " Teppler?

Domo what do you think of that art work Podesta collects? How do you feel about supporting those interests?

[Wonkie]

I'm with toofs, keep it normie friendly in here.

[rebeccablack]

yeah who cares about a guy who has actual accusers and a history of being banned from places due to inappropriate conduct, how about those creepy paintings?

[Teppler]

I'm with toofs, keep it normie friendly in here.

I’m sorry you empower pedophiles wonkie but we all saw Podesta art. We all know these were friends of Epstein. That they are/were elite democrats. That they never answer for their crimes. Truth is we are just scratching the surface. No this won’t be ignored. No I won’t let you conflate bogus ass Roy Moore accusations either.

[feniin]

Teppler definitely peddled pizza gate.

[rebeccablack]

I’m sorry you empower pedophiles wonkie
please cool it with the personal attacks teppler

[Wonkie]

no, they are right, its not appropriate content for any civil discussion, elf board's included.

[Teppler]

yeah who cares about a guy who has actual accusers and a history of being banned from places due to inappropriate conduct, how about those creepy paintings?

The problem isn’t creepy paintings. Creepy paintings are not banned to post on p99 forums. Pedophelia is. I’m not even allowed to post Podesta art.

Meanwhile your big evidence against Moore was fabricated in comparison. No one could produce any sort of proof Moore was banned from any place. And this was your big proof to show that “Republicans are pedophiles too!!!! See it’s not so bad I support and empower literal child fuckers!!!!”.

Democrats ran with this lie that he was banned from their mall and no proof was ever put fourth. This is how democrats argue. They rely on mistruths and control of the media to spread their lies. Go on, cite me one piece of fact that wasn’t a hazy memory about Moore being banned because I’ve done research on this and never found one. The year book note was proven to be forged too.

[Teppler]

please cool it with the personal attacks teppler

It’s not a personal attack it’s just a fact. He supports the side that empowers Podesta. We’ve agreed Podesta art is pedophelia. I’m sorry I have to argue with pedophile supporters here.

[rebeccablack]

having creepy taste in art is not proof of any wrongdoing, as has already been explained.

[feniin]

You've done research? Can you share some of your primary sources?

[feniin]

It’s not a personal attack it’s just a fact. He supports the side that empowers Podesta. We’ve agreed Podesta art is pedophelia. I’m sorry I have to argue with pedophile supporters here.

If we can't call you a Nazi sympathizer you can't call people pedophile supporters, deal?

[Teppler]

having creepy taste in art is not proof of any wrongdoing, as has already been explained.

Defending Podesta pedophile art work that is banned to post here. Yikes. We get to the heart of democrats here.

[Teppler]

If we can't call you a Nazi sympathizer you can't call people pedophile supporters, deal?

You guys call me racist and refer to me racist all the time. What world are you living in here you are persecuted for this?