******Official politics thread ******

[Ahldagor]

Lol, Texas politicians are some of the most pretentitous closet cases ever who spout autistic bullshit while pilfering public coffers (Rick Perry stole public money to fund vacations). Check out how they set up the child support statewide payment system. Anyway, that shit show was one hick playing the coy cock sucker who spits like a queer while the latin descendent displayed his machismo because our politicians have the thinnest of skins in Texas.

[Xaanka]

displayed his machismo

is it ok to use racial stereotypes if it's to excuse multiple state rep's making death threats on the house floor? also it was two hispanic us rep's making death threats not just one. pretty funny story with very poor optics for the latino community.

[Pokesan]

bash the fash

[Ahldagor]

is it ok to use racial stereotypes if it's to excuse multiple state rep's making death threats on the house floor? also it was two hispanic us rep's making death threats not just one. pretty funny story with very poor optics for the latino community.

No, they were reps of the Texas state legislature. Lol, fucking idiot.

[Xaanka]

that's what i said, state house level reps?


oh whoops i also said us reps later in the post i'm high my dude.
OMG U made a spelling error this invalidates ur entire point!!11

[mickmoranis]

lmao yall posting about bottom rung politicians.

yall ever been to a subway? The employee's there are more together than an average politician, let alone the bottom rung ones.

That said, i seen way more video of republicans reverting to their animal base instincts on film

but dont take that for me sticking up for democrats, remember they all dumber than a subway employee

[Xaanka]

lol you can tell someone's a partisan bootlicker when their response to "funny story" is reeeeeeeeeee must make excuses instead of lol'ing

[mickmoranis]

yea im a partisan bootlicker jesus christ chill on the manic depression kid

[mickmoranis]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Rader]

N-A-M-E O-N-E

Seine-Saint-Denis

[originalman]

cue jarjar's conspicuous absence from the thread for a day or two

[AzzarTheGod]

The obvious twist is they weren't illegal immigrants, but how dare you assume that they were because they were holding a sign saying so...

ofc not Soros only hires the best

[Ahldagor]

lol you can tell someone's a partisan bootlicker when their response to "funny story" is reeeeeeeeeee must make excuses instead of lol'ing

For Texas politics it's shit show bottom dwellers. Bill in question deals with sactuary cities which was going to pass not in favor of immigrants because Texas is obvious in how it'll vote. Next 10 years and that vote will get weird. Hell might even see actual fights on the congressional floor, I can't wait.

[xtraball]

Seine-Saint-Denis

Sources ?

[Jarnauga]

Yes, a privately owned coffeeshop selling alcohol and where you can gamble on horse races is definitely a shariah law haven.

I could link you that this video has been debunked already, but it's all in french (http://www.bondyblog.fr/201703101815/bar-pmu-de-sevran-la-contre-enquete-du-bondy-blog/#.WS2b6Wk6_qB), sorry buddy. Heard that the owner of the café is suing

Seine-Saint-Denis

LUL. International airport of paris is in seine st denis. Biggest french stadium is in st denis. Seine saint denis style ..! (https://youtu.be/p0p8svsg7uo)

cue jarjar's conspicuous absence from the thread for a day or two

My last post here is 18 hours ago.. you reek of desperation. in between i slept and still at work right now. Don't hate me if i can't concentrate my whole life to this thread, i actually have a life and you're just a hobby while i get bored at work ;)

[Jarnauga]

Also nice source you got there:

Two undercover French women tried to enter a café in Sevran, a suburb of Paris, and were told to stay outside and wait for their male family member. They were not allowed to enter alone.

“In this café, there is no mixing,” someone can be heard telling them on the undercover video.

“Is this normal?” one of them asks.

“We are in Sevran. Not in Paris. It’s a different mentality,” the man tells her, adding, “It is like back home [in the Middle East].”

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/12/see-video-of-no-go-zones-for-women-in-france/

World net daily ..? Really ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily?wprov=sfla1

The Southern Poverty Law Center has accused WND of "peddling white nationalism," due to its publication of a series of articles on "black mob violence" by writer Colin Flaherty. It accused the website of being a source of "anti-government conspiracy theories, gay-bashing, anti-Muslim propaganda, and End Times prophecy".

In a related Huffington Post article, Terry Krepel of ConWebWatch.com states WND tried to "cash in on Paula Deen's racism".

In April 2011, Paul Harris, writing for The Guardian, described WND Books as "a niche producer of rightwing conspiracy theories, religious books and 'family values' tracts."

..why am i not surprised ..? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[originalman]

Also nice source you got there:


http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/12/see-video-of-no-go-zones-for-women-in-france/

World net daily ..? Really ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily?wprov=sfla1





..why am i not surprised ..? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

welp if splc says an outlet is evil that must mean video they post is conjured by hitler's last occultist wizards

o wait ur just trying to put me on that Novella tip again huh

ps nice job getting sucked further than u usually allow into a losing argument after being called out. just stick with ur usual post-dunk absenteeism next time, it has plausible deniability at least

[AzzarTheGod]

i been sinnin bruh i think i dunked the fat king so hard past month that Daywolf might never post here again

he mic dropped all our asses

[Xaanka]

Also nice source you got there:


http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/12/see-video-of-no-go-zones-for-women-in-france/

World net daily ..? Really ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily?wprov=sfla1





..why am i not surprised ..? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

holy shit did this guy just un-ironically quote the Southern Poverty Law Center. like he's not meming or making a joke right now?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4555734/Woman-19-sentenced-die-raped-Pakistan.html

Woman, 19, is sentenced to death by stoning for adultery after she was 'raped at gunpoint by her cousin' in Pakistan

[AzzarTheGod]

holy shit did this guy just un-ironically quote the Southern Poverty Law Center. like he's not meming or making a joke right now?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4555734/Woman-19-sentenced-die-raped-Pakistan.html

Woman, 19, is sentenced to death by stoning for adultery after she was 'raped at gunpoint by her cousin' in Pakistan


im lazy. i thought honor killing was illegal in pakistan and therefore i had assumed that sharia was not a real thing either?

whats the deal? so its like faux-sharia with pick-and-choose.

a tribal court that operates outside the official justice system in remote areas of the country

ah, no-go zones. first world countries tend not to allow illicit courts you can't drive out to the New Mexico desert and find a new form of government just because its away from the city lmao

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/nztReOO.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

lmao sweden or germany

[Xaanka]

lmao sweden or germany

probably Jarnauga

[Pokesan]

lmao sweden or germany

neither. its fake and gay.

[AzzarTheGod]

hey you leave the buzz killing to me ok

[originalman]

neither. its fake and gay.

[Xaanka]

same but with my gender

[originalman]

3/4 of way to 88 votes on poll

[Rader]

same but with my gender

If you can pass 75+ percent in person as a lipstick tranny you are making me real hot.

[originalman]

If you can pass 75+ percent in person as a lipstick tranny you are making me real hot.

them titties pass 1 hunnid

[Jarnauga]

How many beheadings was there in seine saint denis in the last 50 years ?

Let's ask something even funnier.. what do you think is more dangerous: living in seine saint denis or in chicago ..?

i mean surely, people must be dying by the thousand under shariah law, right ?

http://i.imgur.com/UIZ0Ox8.png

Highlighted: homicides + homicides on minors less than 15 yo.. total = 18 murders in 2012 in seine saint denis (source: https://www.inhesj.fr/fr/ondrp/crimes_delits_dep/2014 )

http://i.imgur.com/86phKnk.png

..and here's Chicago on the same year.. 500 murders and nonnegligent manslaughter. (source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_illin ois_by_city_2012.xls)

Now Chicago is a bit more populated than seine saint denis (seine saint denis pop = 1 571 028 in 2014 source: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seine-Saint-Denis) so obviously you have to take that into consideration.. adjusted with pop it would make a bit over 31 murders in seine saint denis compared to 500 in chicago. need some more math ? that's over 15 times more murders in chicago than in seine saint denis.

So see, when you say there's actually a no go zone with shariah laws taking place in seine saint denis with murders, rape and hanging all over the place, i don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, and i'm sure as hell you don't either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See, all that i just did took me 10 mins. You could have done it yourself, as a free thinking individual that, i'm sure, you're boasting about being. But no, you choose to read an "article" wrote by a pseudo journalist that just happen to write what you want to hear. Of course there's a deeper reason for that: don't ever think about how bad it is in your country, just look abroad and look there's rapes and murders everywhere ! and see we don't need to change anything in here, we're the best already. vote for me. gimme your dollars for defense. y'know, to protect you an stuff.. :rolleyes:

so now my good Originalman, i'm going to bed, since it's almost 5am in here.. so don't you miss me, okay ..? i promise i will come back, don't worry..

http://i.imgur.com/kDugM5h.gif

[Ahldagor]

Temperatures are about the same too.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/blog/2013/01/31/a-tale-of-two-cities/amp/

[originalman]

How many beheadings was there in seine saint denis in the last 50 years ?

Let's ask something even funnier.. what do you think is more dangerous: living in seine saint denis or in chicago ..?

i mean surely, people must be dying by the thousand under shariah law, right ?

http://i.imgur.com/UIZ0Ox8.png

Highlighted: homicides + homicides on minors less than 15 yo.. total = 18 murders in 2012 in seine saint denis (source: https://www.inhesj.fr/fr/ondrp/crimes_delits_dep/2014 )

http://i.imgur.com/86phKnk.png

..and here's Chicago on the same year.. 500 murders and nonnegligent manslaughter. (source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_illin ois_by_city_2012.xls)

Now Chicago is a bit more populated than seine saint denis (seine saint denis pop = 1 571 028 in 2014 source: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seine-Saint-Denis) so obviously you have to take that into consideration.. adjusted with pop it would make a bit over 31 murders in seine saint denis compared to 500 in chicago. need some more math ? that's over 15 times more murders in chicago than in seine saint denis.

So see, when you say there's actually a no go zone with shariah laws taking place in seine saint denis with murders, rape and hanging all over the place, i don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, and i'm sure as hell you don't either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See, all that i just did took me 10 mins. You could have done it yourself, as a free thinking individual that, i'm sure, you're boasting about being. But no, you choose to read an "article" wrote by a pseudo journalist that just happen to write what you want to hear. Of course there's a deeper reason for that: don't ever think about how bad it is in your country, just look abroad and look there's rapes and murders everywhere ! and see we don't need to change anything in here, we're the best already. vote for me. gimme your dollars for defense. y'know, to protect you an stuff.. :rolleyes:

so now my good Originalman, i'm going to bed, since it's almost 5am in here.. so don't you miss me, okay ..? i promise i will come back, don't worry..

http://i.imgur.com/kDugM5h.gif

didn't read. seems mad

[NachtMystium]

didn't read. seems mad

lmao, can you imagine someone typing up charts and shit to justify why their <insert group here> isn't ACKSHUALLY committing terrorist acts, ITS THE MEDIA!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE

[Pokesan]

chicago was a poor choice jarn

[Xaanka]

If you can pass 75+ percent in person as a lipstick tranny you are making me real hot.

im a real qt

[Xaanka]

them titties pass 1 hunnid

[Jarnauga]

Why are you defending sharia law? Do you see some value in it?

..that's really what you got from what i typed?

Wtf is wrong with you.

[Ahldagor]

..that's really what you got from what i typed?

Wtf is wrong with you.

Swish can't troll unless it's p99 related.

[Xaanka]

Of course there's a deeper reason for that: don't ever think about how bad it is in your country, just look abroad and look there's rapes and murders everywhere !

no dude. this logic is how people like you and the population of sweden stockholm-syndrome yourselves into this stuff. this is exactly what you're doing. nobody on here is saying or thinks that anywhere in sweden is comparable to the most violent cities in america. sweden's only the size of like, two average US states and under-reports their own crime statistics. you're the only person who's been doing this, for the past 380 whatever pages. i don't know why/how someone could post this line unironically, while in the same paragraph using relativism to dismiss europe's problems in your country. you guys can stop pretending the rest of the world hasn't seen that western europe is getting cucked and crumbling. we know.

you don't even have free speech in these countries. "oh look guys the swedish media is pro muslim cock, we should all begin sucking it off" you aren't exposed to any opposing views or dissent in your country. you aren't allowed to speak out on these issues in sweden & most of w europe or you will be jailed. you don't even have free speech, you're like a little baby. that's why we as free and intellectually superior americans have to provide the dialogue.

[originalman]

you don't even have free speech in these countries. "oh look guys the swedish media is pro muslim cock, we should all begin sucking it off" you aren't exposed to any opposing views or dissent in your country. you aren't allowed to speak out on these issues in sweden & most of w europe or you will be jailed. you don't even have free speech, you're like a little baby. that's why we as free and intellectually superior americans have to provide the dialogue.

azzar when u wake up from ur benzo coma rate this on the wochter scale please

[Jarnauga]

no dude. this logic is how people like you and the population of sweden stockholm-syndrome yourselves into this stuff. this is exactly what you're doing. nobody on here is saying or thinks that anywhere in sweden is comparable to the most violent cities in america. sweden's only the size of like, two average US states and under-reports their own crime statistics. you're the only person who's been doing this, for the past 380 whatever pages. i don't know why/how someone could post this line unironically, while in the same paragraph using relativism to dismiss europe's problems in your country. you guys can stop pretending the rest of the world hasn't seen that western europe is getting cucked and crumbling. we know.

you don't even have free speech in these countries. "oh look guys the swedish media is pro muslim cock, we should all begin sucking it off" you aren't exposed to any opposing views or dissent in your country. you aren't allowed to speak out on these issues in sweden & most of w europe or you will be jailed. you don't even have free speech, you're like a little baby. that's why we as free and intellectually superior americans have to provide the dialogue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZJoCWuhXE

[Xaanka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZJoCWuhXE

why yes, this is a very striking and compelling argument as to why free speech is bad :confused::confused::confused: because one of your fellow bernie sanders socialists said something about it while he was on trial for stabbing some people.

are you really saying imprisoning people for political dissent makes your society better? :eek:

[Jarnauga]

oh and by the way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#France

The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, of constitutional value, states, in its article 11:

The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, save [if it is necessary] to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law.

In addition, France adheres to the European Convention on Human Rights and accepts the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights.

The Press Law of 1881, as amended, guarantees freedom of the press, subject to several exceptions. The Pleven Act of 1972 (after Justice Minister René Pleven) prohibits incitement to hatred, discrimination, slander and racial insults.[100][101] The Gayssot Act of 1990 prohibits any racist, anti-Semite, or xenophobic activities, including Holocaust denial.[101] The Law of 30 December 2004 prohibits hatred against people because of their gender, sexual orientation, or disability.[102]

An addition to the Public Health Code was passed on 31 December 1970, which punishes the "positive presentation of drugs" and the "incitement to their consumption" with up to five years in prison and fines up to €76,000. Newspapers such as Libération, Charlie Hebdo and associations, political parties, and various publications criticizing the current drug laws and advocating drug reform in France have been repeatedly hit with heavy fines based on this law.

France does not implement any preliminary government censorship for written publications. Any violation of law must be processed through the courts.

The government has a commission recommending movie classifications, the decisions of which can be appealed before the courts. Another commission oversees publications for the youth. The Minister of the Interior can prohibit the sale of pornographic publications to minors, and can also prevent such publications from being publicly displayed or advertised; such decisions can be challenged before administrative courts.[103]

The government restricts the right of broadcasting to authorized radio and television channels; the authorizations are granted by an independent administrative authority; this authority has recently removed the broadcasting authorizations of some foreign channels because of their antisemitic content.

As part of "internal security" enactments passed in 2003, it is an offense to insult the national flag or anthem, with a penalty of a maximum 9,000 euro fine or up to six months' imprisonment.[citation needed] Restrictions on "offending the dignity of the republic", on the other hand, include "insulting" anyone who serves the public (potentially magistrates, police, firefighters, teachers and even bus conductors).[citation needed] The legislation reflects the debate that raged after incidents such as the booing of the "La Marseillaise" at a France vs. Algeria football match in 2002.

HURR I CAN'T SAY THAT I WANT TO GAS ALL THE KIKES DURR

[Xaanka]

imagine being this cucked to your government, willingly

say it with me, stockholm syndrome

[Xaanka]

admittedly france is way better off than sweden for free speech but


An addition to the Public Health Code was passed on 31 December 1970, which punishes the "positive presentation of drugs" and the "incitement to their consumption" with up to five years in prison and fines up to €76,000. Newspapers such as Libération, Charlie Hebdo and associations, political parties, and various publications criticizing the current drug laws and advocating drug reform in France have been repeatedly hit with heavy fines based on this law.


this doesn't sound like free speech to me. most of that doesn't.

[Jarnauga]

sweden's only the size of like, two average US states and under-reports their own crime statistics.

I guess you're talking about the "hurr rapes durr" stuff ? sweden considers stuff as rape that'd be considered catcalling in the US, but somehow they "under-report" ?

Poor thing. it must be hard to live your life with that kind of thinking.

[Jarnauga]

imagine being this cucked to your government, willingly

say it with me, stockholm syndrome

that would be a good definition of trump election ;)

[Jarnauga]

inb4 "hurr you can't even own guns in your country"

[originalman]

inb4 "hurr you can't even own guns in your country"

can you?

[Jarnauga]

can you?

what for ? to defend ourselves against the hordes that kill and maim in seine saint denis ..? :p

[originalman]

what for ? to defend ourselves against the hordes that kill and maim in seine saint denis ..? :p

you'll be saying something similar about cars with manual driving capability in about 15 yrs :)

to steer myself somewhere a computer could take me? xDD

[Ahldagor]

admittedly france is way better off than sweden for free speech but



this doesn't sound like free speech to me. most of that doesn't.

That doesn't hold up to scrutiny because of potential harm done to the public at large. Same reasoning as to why you can't say fire in a crowded theatre, to use the old addage. Slippery slope it if you want to, but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny either.

[Jarnauga]

you'll be saying something similar about cars with manual driving capability in about 15 yrs :)

to steer myself somewhere a computer could take me? xDD

http://i.imgur.com/ESZxanM.gif

[Jarnauga]

That doesn't hold up to scrutiny because of potential harm done to the public at large. Same reasoning as to why you can't say fire in a crowded theatre, to use the old addage. Slippery slope it if you want to, but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny either.

The limitations to free speech in france about the holocaust denialism is mainly because of historical reasons. The french government of vichy actively participated in the deportation of jews and other "not desirable", famously during the episode of the "rafle du vel'd'hiv" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vel%27_d%27Hiv_Roundup).

Coincidentally, it's for the same reason that you don't have racial or religious statistics in france. Vichy did use the records to find the jews an round them up.

[Xaanka]

hmmmmm the plot thickens maybe limiting free speech isn't in the best interest of the citizen and is a slippery slope to fall into if you have any respect for individual liberties (you're european so you don't even really know what that means)

[Xaanka]

I guess you're talking about the "hurr rapes durr" stuff ? sweden considers stuff as rape that'd be considered catcalling in the US, but somehow they "under-report" ?

Poor thing. it must be hard to live your life with that kind of thinking.

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.

[Pokesan]

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.

julian assange

[Xaanka]

julian assange

that was a political move not an actual rape case, also charges dropped. if anything proves my point harder that the same country covering up migrant rapes was the one using fake rape cases to harass assange.

[Pokesan]

that was a political move not an actual rape case, also charges dropped. if anything proves my point harder that the same country covering up migrant rapes was the one using fake rape cases to harass assange.

no the condom fell off cuz his weiner too small and that's rape in sweden. he was charged with rape.

contrived for revenge or not, that's what the legal charge was.

you were saying swedish rape laws aren't overly broad, this example directly refutes that notion.

[AzzarTheGod]

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.

what is her name or this story i havent seen it

[AzzarTheGod]

what for ? to defend ourselves against the hordes that kill and maim in seine saint denis ..? :p

lmao yet all the thugs have guns in france

good 1. go suck an Armenian criminals dick

[Jarnauga]

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.



http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/26/three-men-jailed-for-gang-raping-woman-on-facebook-live-6597934/


Three people have been jailed for gang raping a woman and broadcasting the horrific attack on Facebook Live.

Reza Mohammed Ahmadi, 21, was jailed for two years and four months for rape and accessory to rape, while Maysam Afshar, 18, was sentenced to one year in prison for rape.

Afshar’s sentenced was reduced because of his age.

Both men are Afghan citizens who live in Sweden, where the attack took place.

Emil Khodagholi, a 21-year-old Swede, was jailed for six months for aggravated defamation for posting the rape on Facebook and failing to report it.

Footage of the rape was posted in a private Facebook group with 60,000 members, some of whom reported it to police.

The Swedish court heard Khodagholi had encouraged his friends, and ‘laughed’ while filming the attack on his phone.

All three men pleaded not guilty, with Ahmadi and Afshar claiming the sex was consensual, and Khodagholi arguing he was unaware the victim didn’t want the images to be posted online.

But prosecutors said the woman was ‘heavily drunk’ and ‘under the influence of drugs’, which the men must have realised.

Judge Nils Palbrant said: ‘It’s not possible for a person in such a situation to consent.’

The three men were also ordered to pay a total of 335,000 kronor (£29,800) to the victim in damages.

The difference between what you read on alt-right blogs/facebook groups VS reality.

[Jarnauga]

lmao yet all the thugs have guns in france



Are they not using them..? because damn those 18 murders per year, that seems pretty low with all these guns around.. without even considering that not all of these murders were with a firearm.

The most i heard about firearms being actually used in france was in drug related crime in marseille.. i can look for the numbers if you want my good chum, but i'm sure that deep inside you, you already know the answer :rolleyes:

good 1. go suck an Armenian criminals dick

http://i.imgur.com/ESZxanM.gif

[Jarnauga]

Damn fucking azzar reminded me of Morsay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAMkYWgyw8Q

Guy playing gangsta with airsoft guns..

Thanks for the laugh

[originalman]

lol never clicked jarjar's sig before

yep he raids on project 1999

[Ahldagor]

hmmmmm the plot thickens maybe limiting free speech isn't in the best interest of the citizen and is a slippery slope to fall into if you have any respect for individual liberties (you're european so you don't even really know what that means)

Your notion limits responsibility which is asinine. Makes you sound like a liberal baby boomer too. Idealogues don't do much besides whine until they get motivated with money. Soros, Bannon, ISIS (Al Queda in Iraq after a rebranding for recruits and more money).

[originalman]

https://i.imgur.com/pk0Ntnh.png

[Xaanka]

lol never clicked jarjar's sig before

yep he raids on project 1999

lmao he has a fungi staff what an autist

what is her name or this story i havent seen it



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/11/wheelchair-bound-woman-raped-by-refugees-at-sweden-asylum-center-police-say.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wheelchair-bound-woman-gang-raped-six-migrants-Swedish-asylum-centre-asking-use-toilet.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-refugee-centre-attacked-rape-disabled-woman-gotland-claims-a7355186.html

there's a followup story about the guys getting let off on all charges with no investigation

[Rader]

Are they not using them..? because damn those 18 murders per year, that seems pretty low with all these guns around.. without even considering that not all of these murders were with a firearm.

The most i heard about firearms being actually used in france was in drug related crime in marseille.. i can look for the numbers if you want my good chum, but i'm sure that deep inside you, you already know the answer :rolleyes:



http://i.imgur.com/ESZxanM.gif

18 per year, is that dog years, Jar Jar? Are you oblivious to all the terrorist attacks in France, whether by gun or other means? What a stupid fuck you are.

[Ahldagor]

18 per year, is that dog years, Jar Jar? Are you oblivious to all the terrorist attacks in France, whether by gun or other means? What a stupid fuck you are.

Jar's claim was specific to an area of Paris compared to Chicago. Don't be too hasty.

[Jarnauga]

lmao he has a fungi staff what an autist

http://i.imgur.com/LtXbynq.png

[Jarnauga]

Jar's claim was specific to an area of Paris compared to Chicago. Don't be too hasty.

Technically it's not paris, more of a suburb of paris

[originalman]

just realized his char is named after got too holy shit man

[Jarnauga]

just realized his char is named after got too holy shit man

Jarnauga is from the "Memory, Sorrow and Thorn" cycle from Tad Williams

Winterfell is from "A Song of Ice and Fire" from Georges RR Martin.. actually got the surname before the tv show and nobody knew anything about it ;)

[originalman]

i liked 50 shades of grey b4 the movies bro

[mickmoranis]

http://i.imgur.com/LtXbynq.png

WOW this is the best post i seen in a long long time.

[Jarnauga]

WOW this is the best post i seen in a long long time.

i didn't make that, someone in my old guild did :p

[Jarnauga]

i liked 50 shades of grey b4 the movies bro

look at that guy on a 20 years old elfsim forum that's trying to make fun of me because i read fantasy books

[Jarnauga]

lmao he has a fungi staff what an autist





http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/11/wheelchair-bound-woman-raped-by-refugees-at-sweden-asylum-center-police-say.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wheelchair-bound-woman-gang-raped-six-migrants-Swedish-asylum-centre-asking-use-toilet.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-refugee-centre-attacked-rape-disabled-woman-gotland-claims-a7355186.html

there's a followup story about the guys getting let off on all charges with no investigation

https://www.thelocal.se/20170111/investigation-of-alleged-rape-on-gotland-closed

Couldn't prove that they actually raped her since she had no trace of violence, and the analysis of their semen didn't turn anything

Fucking justice should have been lynched amirite

Official statement from swedish prosecution authority here (https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aklagare.se%2Fnyheter-press%2Fpressmeddelanden%2F%3FnewsId%3D9FEEB27F160 E4BCC&edit-text=&act=url) :

Samples have also been taken from the plaintiff's and the suspects bodies and subsequently analyzed. It has been possible to clarify some parts of the process, which lasted for about an hour.

"Despite a comprehensive investigation, we have not been able to investigate all details. This is because people who have been in place provided information that is unclear and in some cases contradictory, says Deputy Chief Prosecutor Åke Olsson.

The investigation has not shown that any of the suspects by violence or threat forced the plaintiff to perform or withstand a sexual act.

According to the law, sexual acts may be criminal if the plaintiff found himself in a particularly exposed situation. The investigation has not shown that the plaintiff, because of unconsciousness, sleep, serious fear, intoxication or other drug influence, illness, bodily injury or mental disorder, or in any other way has been in such a particularly vulnerable situation.

A disability does not automatically mean that the plaintiff has found himself in such an exposed situation as may be the reason for criminal liability.


Also: https://www.thelocal.se/20161015/stockholm-police-sent-to-gotland-for-new-rape-protests

The woman claims that she shared a taxi home with one of the men and then stopped off at his house to use the toilet. She claims that the man then began to rape her, with four other men later joining him.

The man claims that the woman came home and engaged in sex voluntarily, and that no others were involved.

Police are awaiting the results of DNA test which will determine whether the woman was penetrated by one man, or by several as she has reported.

So no DNA has been found on the victim, no signs of violence whatsoever on the victim and on the "crime" scene, nothing beside what she says ? that doesn't seem like a solid case to me.

Also, i really don't think any 'murican can say anything about the swedish justice system after this (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/02/brock-turner-released-jail-sexual-assault-stanford) ;)

[Xaanka]

https://www.thelocal.se/20170111/investigation-of-alleged-rape-on-gotland-closed

Couldn't prove that they actually raped her since she had no trace of violence, and the analysis of their semen didn't turn anything

Fucking justice should have been lynched amirite

Official statement from swedish prosecution authority here (https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aklagare.se%2Fnyheter-press%2Fpressmeddelanden%2F%3FnewsId%3D9FEEB27F160 E4BCC&edit-text=&act=url) :



Also: https://www.thelocal.se/20161015/stockholm-police-sent-to-gotland-for-new-rape-protests



So no DNA has been found on the victim, no signs of violence whatsoever on the victim and on the "crime" scene, nothing beside what she says ? that doesn't seem like a solid case to me.

Also, i really don't think any 'murican can say anything about the swedish justice system after this (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/02/brock-turner-released-jail-sexual-assault-stanford) ;)


since she had no trace of violence,

holyy shit you're a sick fuck. bro a crippled woman, with low blood pressure (aka muscle weakness) and fainting issues, isn't going to be able to leave visible marks while being held down and raped on a toilet by 6 adult men. this is basic common sense and says nothing about if a rape has occurred or not.

dna tests were only taken after swedes protested and burned a refugee center. it originally was not investigated. the suspects were released within hours of being detained. the original investigation was called off within hours until this story received international attention and sparked protest.

it seems like there's a lot of witnesses the swedish government never even talked to according to your links. the taxi driver, whoever found her.. you're showing me that sweden did not perform a proper investigation of these events and making it look like it was covered up.

so according to jaurnauga it's never rape, as long as she's too weak to leave a mark on you (rope, children, etc are good strategies) and don't nut inside her. it's gonna be a real mind boggler when i point out to you guys that rape was legal in france up until 1980.

edit: hahaha she literally has a medical condition that causes paralysis http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-refugee-centre-attacked-rape-disabled-woman-gotland-claims-a7355186.html

[AzzarTheGod]

it's gonna be a real mind boggler when i point out to you guys that rape was legal in france up until 1980.


Could be huge if true

[Pokesan]

i bet the swedecucks took her fingernails away in the name of "equality":eek:

[originalman]

you're one incompetent rapist if you let a cripple leave marks on you

let alone w the boys on hand

[Xaanka]

Could be huge if true

lol check wikipedia my dude its true

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/LtXbynq.png

kek

[Jarnauga]

dna tests were only taken after swedes protested and burned a refugee center. it originally was not investigated. the suspects were released within hours of being detained. the original investigation was called off within hours until this story received international attention and sparked protest.

Wrong: https://www.thelocal.se/20161013/prosecutor-leaves-gotland-rape-investigation-following-alleged-threats

The former prosecutor on the case, Mats Wihlborg, claimed that several people had attended his residence after the men were released.

(..)

Forensic samples taken from the site of the alleged rape are reportedly being analyzed by Sweden’s National Forensic Centre (NFC) in an effort to establish how many people may have been involved.

Clearly says that the samples were already taken before the first prosecutor stopped instructing the case (because he receiveed threats from your buddy boys, by the way)

We already know what the DNA tests said..


it seems like there's a lot of witnesses the swedish government never even talked to according to your links. the taxi driver, whoever found her.. you're showing me that sweden did not perform a proper investigation of these events and making it look like it was covered up.

Reading skills Xankaa. Try it.

https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aklagare.se%2Fnyheter-press%2Fpressmeddelanden%2F%3FnewsId%3D9FEEB27F160 E4BCC&edit-text=&act=url

Several interrogations have been held with the suspects and with the plaintiff. In addition, the witnesses have heard. There are no witnesses in place where the criminal offenses should have been carried out. The witnesses heard are people who met the plaintiff before and after the event. Crime site investigation has been made. In addition, fights from the crime scene have been analyzed. Samples have also been taken from the plaintiff's and the suspects bodies and subsequently analyzed. It has been possible to clarify some parts of the process, which lasted for about an hour.

"Despite a comprehensive investigation, we have not been able to investigate all details. This is because people who have been in place provided information that is unclear and in some cases contradictory, says Deputy Chief Prosecutor Åke Olsson.

The investigation has not shown that any of the suspects by violence or threat forced the plaintiff to perform or withstand a sexual act.



so according to jaurnauga it's never rape, as long as she's too weak to leave a mark on you (rope, children, etc are good strategies) and don't nut inside her

if your neighbour says you raped her and she has no evidence whatsoever, no witnesses, nothing, you should go to jail for up to 14 years ? i don't think you have any idea what is justice.

Ever read To Kill a Mockingbird ..? you should, that's one of the greatest thing that ever came out of your country. Although, since you can barely read 200 words articles on breitbart or infowars without even checking any sources, i seriously doubt you have the brain skills required ;)


it's gonna be a real mind boggler when i point out to you guys that rape was legal in france up until 1980.

LUL.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI00000649013 3&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006071029&dateTexte=19940228

Article 332

Créé par Loi 1810-02-17 promulguée le 27 février 1810
Modifié par Loi 80-1041 1980-12-23 art. 1 I JORF 24 décembre 1980
Abrogé par Loi n°92-1336 du 16 décembre 1992 - art. 372 (V) JORF 23 décembre 1992 en vigueur le 1er mars 1994

Tout acte de pénétration sexuelle, de quelque nature qu'il soit, commis sur la personne d'autrui, par violence, contrainte ou surprise, constitue un viol [*définition*].

Le viol sera puni de la réclusion criminelle à temps de cinq à dix ans [*sanction, montant, durée*].

Toutefois, le viol sera puni de la réclusion criminelle à temps de dix à vingt ans lorsqu'il aura été commis soit sur une personne particulièrement vulnérable en raison d'un état de grossesse, d'une maladie, d'une infirmité ou d'une déficience physique ou mentale, soit sur un mineur de quinze ans, soit sous la menace d'une arme, soit par deux ou plusieurs auteurs ou complices, soit par un ascendant légitime, naturel ou adoptif de la victime ou par une personne ayant autorité sur elle ou encore par une personne qui a abusé de l'autorité que lui confèrent ses fonctions [*circonstances aggravantes*].

Any act of sexual penetration of any kind committed on the person of another by violence, coercion or surprise constitutes a rape.

Rape will be punishable by criminal imprisonment for five to ten years [sanction, amount, duration].

However, rape shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of ten to twenty years when committed on a person who is particularly vulnerable because of a state of pregnancy, illness, infirmity, A physical or mental impairment, either on a minor of fifteen years, or under the threat of a weapon, or by two or more authors or accomplices, or by a legitimate natural or adoptive ascendant of the victim or by a person in authority Or by a person who has abused the authority conferred on him by his duties [* aggravating circumstances *].

Moron.



edit: hahaha she literally has a medical condition that causes paralysis http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-refugee-centre-attacked-rape-disabled-woman-gotland-claims-a7355186.html

Ok, my dear Xankaa, you're gonna read your link and quote me when it says she has a condition that causes paralysis.

from your link:

Her lawyer, Staffan Fredriksson, said the woman was paralysed when the abuse started and was physically unable to resist.

"This was going on for a couple of hours. She got paralysed in this situation and was not able to bring herself to resist physically, other than saying no."

..where do you read she has a condition that causes paralysis ..? what about "fainting issues" ? do you have reading skills or do you just repeat whatever tantrum you found in infowars comments section ..? the only condition that's mentioned is the fact that she's on a wheelchair..! do your mind just make up stuff as it goes ..? :confused:

[Jarnauga]

making it look like it was covered up.


http://i.imgur.com/tnA1kFK.jpg

Why would they cover up that and send the guys i already talked about here (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2533032&postcount=3826) to jail ..?

[Lune]

Jarn, ignoring all the infowars dogshit, the fact of the matter is, hundreds of thousands of economic migrants poured into Europe in 2016, and hundreds of thousands more are on their way or waiting in Libya right now.

These people are just in search of a better life, but they do not have the same values, education, ethics (not necessarily worse, but different), etc. The countries they come from are largely corrupt, dirty, and primitive. You can blame some of that on neo-Imperialism but you're naive if you think it isn't primarily due to culture, namely issues such as factionalism, lack of respect for the rule of law and due process, orthodox religious piety, lack of entrepreneurial spirit, etc. The people from those countries bring these values with them.

The influx of so many foreigners from countries with lower HDI's will permanently change Europe. Can you honestly say that it will be for the better?

When the Irish, Greeks, and Italians came to the USA, we had similar concerns. But the cultural quirks they brought were minor and they largely integrated within 1 or 2 generations. Sub-saharan Africa, on the other hand, is an entirely alien society, and while they are still motivated by the same human feelings and desires and are therefore relateable, successful government is build on the abstract, and requires that the citizenry have certain values. The Constitution of the United States would not have arisen if we were a Spanish colony. Our founding fathers were culturally influenced by the enlightenment political revolution in anglo Europe, specifically men like Locke and Voltaire who were products of liberal cultures.

[Xaanka]

lol posting like he's right on the verge of busting open the migrant rape "right wing conspiracy theory"

[originalman]

lotta posts i have not read in the last 2 pages

[originalman]

Trump Decapitates World Government, Bilderberg Prepares to Strike Back (https://youtu.be/7YpHO7gR06s)

[mickmoranis]

total techno-tronic neo feudalism


http://i.imgur.com/Dp8QANA.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

Trump Decapitates World Government, Bilderberg Prepares to Strike Back (https://youtu.be/7YpHO7gR06s)

That's law. You don't pull out of a globalist agenda unscathed. We're going into a Deep State JFK war of some kind. It's inevitable.

[Jarnauga]

Jarn, ignoring all the infowars dogshit, the fact of the matter is, hundreds of thousands of economic migrants poured into Europe in 2016, and hundreds of thousands more are on their way or waiting in Libya right now.

These people are just in search of a better life, but they do not have the same values, education, ethics (not necessarily worse, but different), etc. The countries they come from are largely corrupt, dirty, and primitive. You can blame some of that on neo-Imperialism but you're naive if you think it isn't primarily due to culture, namely issues such as factionalism, lack of respect for the rule of law and due process, orthodox religious piety, lack of entrepreneurial spirit, etc. The people from those countries bring these values with them.

The influx of so many foreigners from countries with lower HDI's will permanently change Europe. Can you honestly say that it will be for the better?

When the Irish, Greeks, and Italians came to the USA, we had similar concerns. But the cultural quirks they brought were minor and they largely integrated within 1 or 2 generations. Sub-saharan Africa, on the other hand, is an entirely alien society, and while they are still motivated by the same human feelings and desires and are therefore relateable, successful government is build on the abstract, and requires that the citizenry have certain values. The Constitution of the United States would not have arisen if we were a Spanish colony. Our founding fathers were culturally influenced by the enlightenment political revolution in anglo Europe, specifically men like Locke and Voltaire who were products of liberal cultures.

i'm not talking about "economic migrants", im talking about refugees, that's completely different. Migrating to france for work is actually pretty hard if you don't already have a contract already in a french company. Refusing someone that wants to emigrate here to find work when there is none is fine by me. Letting people running away from isis and assad drown in the mediterranean by the tens of thousand is not only immoral, it's also illegal according to treaties that we signed ( cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_law ). Why the fuck do you sign that kind of treaties to just ignore when shit actually gets tough ? Are human rights only important when everything is right ? no, they're never been more important than during times of darkness. Call me an idealist if you want.

Now there's different situations in europe. Like France accepted to take in 30,000 refugees, which is honestly low, but the situation is kinda different than in germany for example. Germany is basically losing population right now, so taking in lots of migrants is economically speaking a smart move. Not sure about sweden, i don't know enough about their demography. France has one of the highest natality in europe, second only to ireland i think, so i guess in a pure economical thinking, why would you take in refugees ?

..which is why there should be an actual agreement on who should take refugees. And yes, USA should too, they have a high responsibility as a country on what's happening in the middle east right now. May i also remind everyone here that arab countries already take most of them (http://imgur.com/a/jnRRx)..

Now i refuse your talk about "culture". By your standards, france should not accept american immigrants because you have a culture of violence with guns etc. Guess what, i don't care if you come to france as long as you respect the Law here. And it should be the same everywhere. You go to any country, whether it be the US, France, israel or north korea, when you go there, you respect the law, period. And yes, i disagree with you on :

The countries they come from are largely corrupt, dirty, and primitive. You can blame some of that on neo-Imperialism but you're naive if you think it isn't primarily due to culture, namely issues such as factionalism, lack of respect for the rule of law and due process, orthodox religious piety, lack of entrepreneurial spirit, etc. The people from those countries bring these values with them.

pfff.. 2017 and you still have to read that.

We can have africans dying for france in the mud of the somme (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs), a black slave rise to napoleon marechal fighting for The Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas), have a black general fighting for free france in world war 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_%C3%89bou%C3%A9), have some of the greatest french-speaking writers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9gritude) coming from africa.. Have a black woman, who actually was initially fighting for the independance of french guyana, fronting the law for gay marriage in the french assembly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPRNXTx2G4o), have a minister born in south korea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur_Pellerin) appointed to defend french culture .. Hey we even had a senegalese born minister (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_Yade), she actually tried to run for president at the last election..!

but NO. THEY'RE BLACK. THEY'RE NOT FRENCH. THEY CAN'T BE FRENCH. FRENCH IS WHITE. FRANCE IS NOT FRANCE ANYMORE. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViHsfeXNgjY). THEY DIRTY PRIMITIVE MONKEYS.

Fuck you. In world war 2, US commandment sent a memo to the french army on how to treat american black people.. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2016/04/27/_secret_information_concerning_black_troops_a_warn ing_memo_sent_to_the_french.html) that wasn't that far from what i hear again today about refugees, blacks, or muslims.. they rape.. they're a danger to the "white race".. that intimacy between white girls and black male is unwanted (hurr white genocide)..

I have the honour to be born in a country that gifted the world with one idea: that no Man, wherever he is, whatever he believes in, wherever he comes from.. has unalienable and universal rights. I refuse to classify "cultures" or "races" or whatever other word you choose. You think the ideas of Rousseau and Voltaire only applied to white people ? Nope. It applies to Man.

I also want to know how with old colonies sparking a good chunk of africa (http://imgur.com/a/1x4VL) we didn't collapse with obviously migrants coming from there.. You know that algeria was france 60 years ago ? like, you were an algerian and could take the boat and live in france, etc ? did we collapse ..?

Whatev, i can't believe i'm still reading that kind of stuff in 2017. I'll just go to bed and swiftly quote Aimé Césaire, maybe the greatest black french speaking writer:

“. . . car il n'est point vrai que l'oeuvre de l'homme est finie
que nous n'avons rien à faire au monde
que nous parasitons le monde
qu'il suffit que nous nous mettions au pas du monde
mais l'oeuvre de l'homme vient seulement de commencer
et il reste à l'homme à conquérir toute interdiction immobilisée aux coins de sa ferveur et aucune race ne possède le monopole de la beauté, de l'intelligence, de la force . . .”


". . . For it is not true that the work of man is finished
That we have nothing to do in the world
That we paralyze the world
That it is enough that we should take the step of the world
But the work of man has only just begun
And it remains for the man to conquer any immobilized interdiction at the corners of his fervor, and no race possesses the monopoly of beauty, intelligence, and strength. . . "

[Jarnauga]

lol posting like he's right on the verge of busting open the migrant rape "right wing conspiracy theory"

you're the one thinking there's a giant conspiracy in sweden/europe or whatever to cover the thousands of rapes per day that's happening..!

[Jarnauga]

Trump Decapitates World Government, Bilderberg Prepares to Strike Back (https://youtu.be/7YpHO7gR06s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_q8F_qazbI

[Xaanka]

i'm not talking about "economic migrants", im talking about refugees, that's completely different. Migrating to france for work is actually pretty hard if you don't already have a contract already in a french company. Refusing someone that wants to emigrate here to find work when there is none is fine by me. Letting people running away from isis and assad drown in the mediterranean by the tens of thousand is not only immoral, it's also illegal according to treaties that we signed ( cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_law ). Why the fuck do you sign that kind of treaties to just ignore when shit actually gets tough ? Are human rights only important when everything is right ? no, they're never been more important than during times of darkness. Call me an idealist if you want.

Now there's different situations in europe. Like France accepted to take in 30,000 refugees, which is honestly low, but the situation is kinda different than in germany for example. Germany is basically losing population right now, so taking in lots of migrants is economically speaking a smart move. Not sure about sweden, i don't know enough about their demography. France has one of the highest natality in europe, second only to ireland i think, so i guess in a pure economical thinking, why would you take in refugees ?

..which is why there should be an actual agreement on who should take refugees. And yes, USA should too, they have a high responsibility as a country on what's happening in the middle east right now. May i also remind everyone here that arab countries already take most of them (http://imgur.com/a/jnRRx)..

Now i refuse your talk about "culture". By your standards, france should not accept american immigrants because you have a culture of violence with guns etc. Guess what, i don't care if you come to france as long as you respect the Law here. And it should be the same everywhere. You go to any country, whether it be the US, France, israel or north korea, when you go there, you respect the law, period. And yes, i disagree with you on :



pfff.. 2017 and you still have to read that.

We can have africans dying for france in the mud of the somme (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs), a black slave rise to napoleon marechal fighting for The Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas), have a black general fighting for free france in world war 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_%C3%89bou%C3%A9), have some of the greatest french-speaking writers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9gritude) coming from africa.. Have a black woman, who actually was initially fighting for the independance of french guyana, fronting the law for gay marriage in the french assembly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPRNXTx2G4o), have a minister born in south korea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur_Pellerin) appointed to defend french culture .. Hey we even had a senegalese born minister (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_Yade), she actually tried to run for president at the last election..!

but NO. THEY'RE BLACK. THEY'RE NOT FRENCH. THEY CAN'T BE FRENCH. FRENCH IS WHITE. FRANCE IS NOT FRANCE ANYMORE. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViHsfeXNgjY). THEY DIRTY PRIMITIVE MONKEYS.

Fuck you. In world war 2, US commandment sent a memo to the french army on how to treat american black people.. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2016/04/27/_secret_information_concerning_black_troops_a_warn ing_memo_sent_to_the_french.html) that wasn't that far from what i hear again today about refugees, blacks, or muslims.. they rape.. they're a danger to the "white race".. that intimacy between white girls and black male is unwanted (hurr white genocide)..

I have the honour to be born in a country that gifted the world with one idea: that no Man, wherever he is, whatever he believes in, wherever he comes from.. has unalienable and universal rights. I refuse to classify "cultures" or "races" or whatever other word you choose. You think the ideas of Rousseau and Voltaire only applied to white people ? Nope. It applies to Man.

I also want to know how with old colonies sparking a good chunk of africa (http://imgur.com/a/1x4VL) we didn't collapse with obviously migrants coming from there.. You know that algeria was france 60 years ago ? like, you were an algerian and could take the boat and live in france, etc ? did we collapse ..?

Whatev, i can't believe i'm still reading that kind of stuff in 2017. I'll just go to bed and swiftly quote Aimé Césaire, maybe the greatest black french speaking writer:

lol 76% of child refugees are grown men hiding their backgrounds or trying to get better benefits https://www.rmv.se/aktuellt/de-forsta-medicinska-aldersbedomningarna-klara/

[Xaanka]

I have the honour to be born in a country that gifted the world with one idea: that no Man, wherever he is, whatever he believes in, wherever he comes from.. has unalienable and universal rights.

so you're saying, these refugees aren't entitled to any rights, so we don't have to let them in? i dont get it.

I refuse to classify "cultures" or "races" or whatever other word you choose. You think the ideas of Rousseau and Voltaire only applied to white people ? Nope. It applies to Man.

why yes, fellow Enriched World Traveler, these is definitely no difference between any race or culture *hopes nobody looks up his post history of paranoid ramblings about russians*

[mickmoranis]

I cant believe taking care of refugee's isnt for profit yet, its a fucking gold mine.

[Patriam1066]

Jarn, ignoring all the infowars dogshit, the fact of the matter is, hundreds of thousands of economic migrants poured into Europe in 2016, and hundreds of thousands more are on their way or waiting in Libya right now.

These people are just in search of a better life, but they do not have the same values, education, ethics (not necessarily worse, but different), etc. The countries they come from are largely corrupt, dirty, and primitive. You can blame some of that on neo-Imperialism but you're naive if you think it isn't primarily due to culture, namely issues such as factionalism, lack of respect for the rule of law and due process, orthodox religious piety, lack of entrepreneurial spirit, etc. The people from those countries bring these values with them.

The influx of so many foreigners from countries with lower HDI's will permanently change Europe. Can you honestly say that it will be for the better?

When the Irish, Greeks, and Italians came to the USA, we had similar concerns. But the cultural quirks they brought were minor and they largely integrated within 1 or 2 generations. Sub-saharan Africa, on the other hand, is an entirely alien society, and while they are still motivated by the same human feelings and desires and are therefore relateable, successful government is build on the abstract, and requires that the citizenry have certain values. The Constitution of the United States would not have arisen if we were a Spanish colony. Our founding fathers were culturally influenced by the enlightenment political revolution in anglo Europe, specifically men like Locke and Voltaire who were products of liberal cultures.


Very good post but Iranians are better than Italians

[maskedmelon]

i'm not talking about "economic migrants", im talking about refugees, that's completely different. Migrating to france for work is actually pretty hard if you don't already have a contract already in a french company. Refusing someone that wants to emigrate here to find work when there is none is fine by me. Letting people running away from isis and assad drown in the mediterranean by the tens of thousand is not only immoral, it's also illegal according to treaties that we signed ( cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_law ). Why the fuck do you sign that kind of treaties to just ignore when shit actually gets tough ? Are human rights only important when everything is right ? no, they're never been more important than during times of darkness. Call me an idealist if you want.

Now there's different situations in europe. Like France accepted to take in 30,000 refugees, which is honestly low, but the situation is kinda different than in germany for example. Germany is basically losing population right now, so taking in lots of migrants is economically speaking a smart move. Not sure about sweden, i don't know enough about their demography. France has one of the highest natality in europe, second only to ireland i think, so i guess in a pure economical thinking, why would you take in refugees ?

..which is why there should be an actual agreement on who should take refugees. And yes, USA should too, they have a high responsibility as a country on what's happening in the middle east right now. May i also remind everyone here that arab countries already take most of them (http://imgur.com/a/jnRRx)..

It is morally reprehensible, indeed repugnant, to subsidize failed conditions that others by no fault of their own but perhaps for the idiocy and willful delusion of placating their own conscience or in assenting as accessory to placating those of others, might come to share in the burden of their inefficacy and still others yet unknown to this world might know from their first breath to their last, their birthright, the penance of such noble men's selfish ambitions, misery.

be they fleeing corruption or violence or the tragedy of their own inadequacy, every breath allotted is uncounted more into the lungs of those who may only ever know suffering and one denied another whose contribution is sure and measured, one by whom society might know progress, that man may survive, asserting his permanence and denying that of suffering.

[Patriam1066]

813
Hail Mossadegh

[Lune]

i'm not talking about "economic migrants", im talking about refugees, that's completely different. Migrating to france for work is actually pretty hard if you don't already have a contract already in a french company. Refusing someone that wants to emigrate here to find work when there is none is fine by me. Letting people running away from isis and assad drown in the mediterranean by the tens of thousand is not only immoral, it's also illegal according to treaties that we signed ( cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_law ). Why the fuck do you sign that kind of treaties to just ignore when shit actually gets tough ? Are human rights only important when everything is right ? no, they're never been more important than during times of darkness. Call me an idealist if you want.

Now there's different situations in europe. Like France accepted to take in 30,000 refugees, which is honestly low, but the situation is kinda different than in germany for example. Germany is basically losing population right now, so taking in lots of migrants is economically speaking a smart move. Not sure about sweden, i don't know enough about their demography. France has one of the highest natality in europe, second only to ireland i think, so i guess in a pure economical thinking, why would you take in refugees ?

..which is why there should be an actual agreement on who should take refugees. And yes, USA should too, they have a high responsibility as a country on what's happening in the middle east right now. May i also remind everyone here that arab countries already take most of them (http://imgur.com/a/jnRRx)..

Now i refuse your talk about "culture". By your standards, france should not accept american immigrants because you have a culture of violence with guns etc. Guess what, i don't care if you come to france as long as you respect the Law here. And it should be the same everywhere. You go to any country, whether it be the US, France, israel or north korea, when you go there, you respect the law, period. And yes, i disagree with you on :

Relatively few of those "refugees" are actually fleeting from Syria or ISIS. More than half are actually economic migrants from Afghanistan or Subsaharan Africa who enter under asylum (refugee) status. Additionally, I'm talking about all of Europe, not just France. Italy is far less discerning about what to do with the tens of thousand who wash up on their shores, and you're in the EU, so those refugees are your problem as well.

The West does NOT have a responsibility to accept refugees. We did not cause the failure of these countries. In fact, flooding the West with third world immigrants will only reduce the ability of the West to advance the interests humanity through prosperity. The West does however have a choice about whether to help refugees depending on the aggregate personal morality of their population, whether they choose to do it as a society, out of compassion rather than our of obligation.

Whether or not you respect the law or not depends on the extent to which it aligns with your personal values. Americans and French are similar enough in that regard it wouldn't be a big issue. But many of these people coming in literally believe, as a matter of personal and religious philosophy and as a deep-seated aspect of their way of life, that women should not have rights, that church and state should be intertwined, and that atheists should be killed or at very least shunned by society.

Now that's all fine as long as they eventually assimilate, but that's not going so well is it? You know damn well that the majority of these refugees form enclaves where they primarily associate with their own kind and their beliefs and values persist, rather than being replaced by French ones.

We can have africans dying for france in the mud of the somme (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs), a black slave rise to napoleon marechal fighting for The Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas), have a black general fighting for free france in world war 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_%C3%89bou%C3%A9), have some of the greatest french-speaking writers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9gritude) coming from africa.. Have a black woman, who actually was initially fighting for the independance of french guyana, fronting the law for gay marriage in the french assembly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPRNXTx2G4o), have a minister born in south korea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur_Pellerin) appointed to defend french culture .. Hey we even had a senegalese born minister (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_Yade), she actually tried to run for president at the last election..!

but NO. THEY'RE BLACK. THEY'RE NOT FRENCH. THEY CAN'T BE FRENCH. FRENCH IS WHITE. FRANCE IS NOT FRANCE ANYMORE. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViHsfeXNgjY). THEY DIRTY PRIMITIVE MONKEYS.

Fuck you. In world war 2, US commandment sent a memo to the french army on how to treat american black people.. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2016/04/27/_secret_information_concerning_black_troops_a_warn ing_memo_sent_to_the_french.html) that wasn't that far from what i hear again today about refugees, blacks, or muslims.. they rape.. they're a danger to the "white race".. that intimacy between white girls and black male is unwanted (hurr white genocide)..

I have the honour to be born in a country that gifted the world with one idea: that no Man, wherever he is, whatever he believes in, wherever he comes from.. has unalienable and universal rights. I refuse to classify "cultures" or "races" or whatever other word you choose. You think the ideas of Rousseau and Voltaire only applied to white people ? Nope. It applies to Man.

Why are you making this about race?

Why approach this so narrowmindedly that you refuse to even try to understand one of the most important human concepts and the deeply influential ways it is intertwined with politics, economics, and your everyday life?

Culture is the only truly valid way to classify groups of people, of course stopping short of prejudicially generalizing those qualities to individuals.

By plugging your ears and going "nananananana" you're willfully going into the prospect of optimizing politics and the wellbeing of your country totally blind, while at the same time pridefully trumpeting the achievements of your own culture (Voltaire, Cesaire). Refuse to think about culture? Please. What makes France France, Jarnauga? Is it because you live in France? Is it because you live inside certain lines on a map? Or is it your customs.

And by the way, France was never a shining example of tolerating on the basis of belief. Voltaire was, France wasn't. Look what you fuckers did to the Huguenots. Even today, your government and society overwhelmingly expect that immigrants eventually accept French values.

I also want to know how with old colonies sparking a good chunk of africa (http://imgur.com/a/1x4VL) we didn't collapse with obviously migrants coming from there.. You know that algeria was france 60 years ago ? like, you were an algerian and could take the boat and live in france, etc ? did we collapse ..?

Whatev, i can't believe i'm still reading that kind of stuff in 2017. I'll just go to bed and swiftly quote Aimé Césaire, maybe the greatest black french speaking writer:

Because Algeria was administered by France, providing stability and prosperity. They didn't have a reason to evacuate en masse until after decolonization. (not that Algeria ever did much of that anyway)

[Ahldagor]

Jesus titty fucking Christ. Are we so lost in our nerdery that you must grab 'em by the pussy? Y'all ever think that the generation stuck in school because they're more fucking freightened of dying than an over dosing stripper getting gang fucked without having been paid is incapable of pulling themselves up by anything? Seriously, eat pussy.

[Patriam1066]

Seriously, eat pussy.

Not since I heard what happened to Michael Douglas!

[Pokesan]

https://youtu.be/moNHfeBJ81I

[AzzarTheGod]

Not since I heard what happened to Michael Douglas!

Or Val Kilmer

Even younger age

[Rader]

Hey Jar Jar, besides excusing asshole boys for raping a defenseless old crippled lady, and using Chiraq (a city everyone acknowledges as a compete hellhole, at least in the gang-controlled sections) as your counterpoint to justify France's muslim enclaves, you are making some really good points, impressive.

[mickmoranis]

hey rader how do you feel about organized religion, for example Catholicism?

[Xaanka]

hey rader how do you feel about organized religion, for example Catholicism?

im always on the lookout for those Catholic rape gangs. none of those Catholic refugees in Islamic countries respect any of the laws!

[Xaanka]

jarnooga please explain to be why the west is obligated to take in refugees when we already pay to resettle them within the middle east region for pennies on the dollar? why should we be paying tons more per person to pull them out of their element and put them into a country where they don't understand the language laws or social norms? if they are not economic migrants, why can't they be settled in the middle east? western countries can still share the burden, financially.

how does this benefit us in the west? how does this benefit the refugees besides direct economic benefit from welfare systems? how is this good for anything other than your weird "pro-islam-but-i-don't-really-know-what-islam-is" agenda? have you ever even really thought this through or are you a brain dead retard that counter signals everything american conservatives happen to support?

[mickmoranis]

because its moral

[Xaanka]

because its moral

what is moral about removing somebody from their home and putting them into countries they have an extremely low chance of integrating into socially or economically? can you tell me how it is better for these people to settle them in the west instead of their homes, excluding economic benefits such as free apartments or cash aid, which the west could still provide them in their own region for much lower cost?

[Xaanka]

in fact i would venture to guess there are a lot of people out there who would agree that bringing economic migrants from the middle east into the west is immoral

[mickmoranis]

help those that need it whats so hard to fucking understand

[mickmoranis]

and yea of course there are a bunch of fat asses that work at 5 guys that think that its immoral idiot

[Xaanka]

help those that need it whats so hard to fucking understand

but you haven't shown me how this is helping them.

nor is my argument not to help them. we could help more of them if we were settling them in the middle east and not the west, because it is cheaper to settle each person, therefore every dollar spent will help more people.

you're the one arguing not to help refugees, by saying we should bring them into the west.

[Xaanka]

i bet you haven't even thought about if these programs help the refugees, or looked into how successful they are. most of this thread are goobers who watch Don Lemon and Andersen "No Formal Training In Journalism But Got The Job Right Out Of The CIA" Cooper go "REFUGEE GOOD, FOX NEWS BAD, FIRE BAD FIRE BAD GLORP GLORK" and take it to heart.

[Xaanka]

help those that need it whats so hard to fucking understand

ok so there's two options, settle 100,000 refugees into the west or with the same money settle about 2,000,000 refugees into various countries completely willing to take them in within the middle east region. that's about what the difference in cost in settling them comes out to. which one is helping them more?

do you even brain?

[Lune]

help those that need it whats so hard to fucking understand

What if their own decisions are a significant part of why they need help?

Are we morally obligated to help heroin addicts, or are we given the choice?

What about someone who happens to be poor but they think atheists should be put to death and that the government should be an Islamic theocracy autocratically led by clerics?

[originalman]

i look away for 5 mins and you queers ruin the entirety of page 388

you rustled me

[mickmoranis]

ok so there's two options, settle 100,000 refugees into the west or with the same money settle about 2,000,000 refugees into various countries completely willing to take them in within the middle east region. that's about what the difference in cost in settling them comes out to. which one is helping them more?

do you even brain?

hey kid, the day some nerd that either pretends to be you, or is you, tells me how to moral is the day hell freezes over.

[AzzarTheGod]

what is moral about removing somebody from their home and putting them into countries they have an extremely low chance of integrating into socially or economically? can you tell me how it is better for these people to settle them in the west instead of their homes, excluding economic benefits such as free apartments or cash aid, which the west could still provide them in their own region for much lower cost?
Second half of this post is woke 9k

[mickmoranis]

What if their own decisions are a significant part of why they need help?

Guys, its really not this difficult.

your generation of fucking entitled kids doesnt even understand basic morality

you think its some kinda fucking train track game

jesus christ yall need jesus christ

[originalman]

iryd just got triple 8

[Pokesan]

What if their own decisions are a significant part of why they need help?

Are we morally obligated to help heroin addicts, or are we given the choice?

What about someone who happens to be poor but they think atheists should be put to death and that the government should be an Islamic theocracy autocratically led by clerics?

yeah man the US bombing their country back to the stoneage is a real blackmsrk on their personal decision making

Fuck off globalist cuck

[AzzarTheGod]

we have to lock them out life circumstances are no excuse for evil or lack of success. black lives matter we must redistribute the wealth so ppl have opportunity vote for bernie

pras we must cultivate the Bolshevik vote

[originalman]

we have to lock them out life circumstances are no excuse for evil or lack of success. vote for bernie

[AzzarTheGod]

LMAO got em

[originalman]

LMAO got em

platinum shit

[Pokesan]

im not sure jew heckling is a good argument against the bern

[originalman]

is calling out pushing mutually contradictory ideologies in different regions w the only unifying principle being ur drive to build an indestructible enslavement machine (to protect us from the melting ice cap blue beams) really "jew heckling"?

huh maybe ur right...

[Lune]

is calling out pushing mutually contradictory ideologies in different regions w the only unifying principle being ur drive to build an indestructible enslavement machine (to protect us from the melting ice cap blue beams) really "jew heckling"?

huh maybe ur right...

Awfully globalist of you, you growing out some parentheses?

If you think they're contradictory you're forgetting about nationalism. What I want for the interest of my people doesn't have to be the same as what I want for other peoples.

And what you call enslavement I call collective self interest.

[Lune]

Guys, its really not this difficult.

your generation of fucking entitled kids doesnt even understand basic morality

you think its some kinda fucking train track game

jesus christ yall need jesus christ

Actually baby boomers were entitled, our generation is narcissistic and status-obsessed.

It's a train track game because i want to do what's reasonable instead of what makes me feel good in my fee fees?

[Xaanka]

Guys, its really not this difficult.

your generation of fucking entitled kids doesnt even understand basic morality

you think its some kinda fucking train track game

jesus christ yall need jesus christ

why yes its the "generation of fucking entitled kids" here who feel entitled to a handout that is the problem,

you have explained to us clearly why we should solve this by handing out cash and free apartments to economic migrants who feel strong religion-based financial entitlement toward the outside world.

alright let's get real dude. you're stuck in a 2005-era american democrat scapegoating mindset in 2017. please let me help you before you start acting like the republicans are the establishment party and posting monkey jokes about the president (which was a popular past time of american democrats before we elected Obama ;) ).

the average demographic on here's like what, a mid 20's white or maybe asian employed male? what entitlements does that person receive? they have the second highest requirements for college admissions, the lowest chance of being hired of any race/sex combination for tier 1 jobs, one of the more unlikely groups to be receiving social welfare benefits, less likely to be on medicaid, no employer protections in at will states, etc. likely single no kids and working in the tech industry and paying taxes in an upper middle bracket. that sounds like the antithesis of entitlement to me.

[Xaanka]

im not sure jew heckling is a good argument against the bern

lol its been like 6 months since the election and he's already finding himself wrapped up in fraud investigations nobody needs to discredit bernie he was a joke on his own and anyone still cuckin' after they got swindled is the lowest rung of the political/autistic spectrum

[Jarnauga]

If you see someone caught up in an road accident bleeding in his car, do you just drive away ..? I mean, there's a reasonable chance it's HIS fault, maybe he's high, maybe he's drunk, maybe he was texting.. why should i have to stop for him when i'm on my way to business meetings that will give work to a dozen family..?

You guys are advocating leaving people to drown in the mediterranean sea. I'm advocating to save them and examine their situation if they rightfully can be considered as a refugee fleeing persecution.

But who am i trying to convince ? People that think that poor people are just lazy losers. People that are applauding their buffoon that's pulling out of climate agreements because hey, it's not my problem if the seychelles are disappearing under the sea, it's their problem, they should just build dams and learn to swim. I guess they just lack the entrepreneurship of our superior culture, fucking primitives.

[Ahldagor]

If you see someone caught up in an road accident bleeding in his car, do you just drive away ..? I mean, there's a reasonable chance it's HIS fault, maybe he's high, maybe he's drunk, maybe he was texting.. why should i have to stop for him when i'm on my way to business meetings that will give work to a dozen family..?

You guys are advocating leaving people to drown in the mediterranean sea. I'm advocating to save them and examine their situation if they rightfully can be considered as a refugee fleeing persecution.

But who am i trying to convince ? People that think that poor people are just lazy losers. People that are applauding their buffoon that's pulling out of climate agreements because hey, it's not my problem if the seychelles are disappearing under the sea, it's their problem, they should just build dams and learn to swim. I guess they just lack the entrepreneurship of our superior culture, fucking primitives.

You're trying to convince younglings who have embraced the fuck you I got mine mentality that US baby boomers have instilled into the culture. Lune argues against that mentality, but applies it in their new-fad nationalism. Fippy jr is just an inconsiderate person wrapped up in themselves like a liberal baby boomer.

[originalman]

If you see someone caught up in an road accident bleeding in his car, do you just drive away ..? I mean, there's a reasonable chance it's HIS fault, maybe he's high, maybe he's drunk, maybe he was texting.. why should i have to stop for him when i'm on my way to business meetings that will give work to a dozen family..?

You guys are advocating leaving people to drown in the mediterranean sea. I'm advocating to save them and examine their situation if they rightfully can be considered as a refugee fleeing persecution.

But who am i trying to convince ? People that think that poor people are just lazy losers. People that are applauding their buffoon that's pulling out of climate agreements because hey, it's not my problem if the seychelles are disappearing under the sea, it's their problem, they should just build dams and learn to swim. I guess they just lack the entrepreneurship of our superior culture, fucking primitives.

You advocate putting an increase to the market forces that drive people to sail the mediterranean in a floating tire so you can get some kind of momentary white guilt high. You advocate increasing the count of drowned babies, dude.

If these people had faith that you were not so intellectually squishy they wouldn't literally kill children to propagandize to you. You financially incentivize the murder of children. Your willful stupidity makes you a part of something incredibly callous and evil.

[Xaanka]

If you see someone caught up in an road accident bleeding in his car, do you just drive away ..? I mean, there's a reasonable chance it's HIS fault, maybe he's high, maybe he's drunk, maybe he was texting.. why should i have to stop for him when i'm on my way to business meetings that will give work to a dozen family..?

You guys are advocating leaving people to drown in the mediterranean sea. I'm advocating to save them and examine their situation if they rightfully can be considered as a refugee fleeing persecution.

But who am i trying to convince ? People that think that poor people are just lazy losers. People that are applauding their buffoon that's pulling out of climate agreements because hey, it's not my problem if the seychelles are disappearing under the sea, it's their problem, they should just build dams and learn to swim. I guess they just lack the entrepreneurship of our superior culture, fucking primitives.

why do you have to turn things into a black and white flawed moral argument comparison? why can't you just post about what you're actually advocating for: importing islamic muslims from some of the shittier countries into europe and america, jumping immediately to such an extreme measure before you've even considered settling them within the region.

resettling refugees in the mid east instead of sweden isn't leaving them to drown or driving past a crashed car. how fucked are you in the head to believe that? how racist are you? are you saying that the middle east as a whole is a shitty place for them to live? can you tell me, if you feel this way, why is that? how does importing them into a new region with no attempt at social integration going to address and solve the issues that caused their home nations to be unstable violent shitholes in the first place?

we get it dude you want to suck off a muzzie and the more there are the better your chances get. the issue goes a bit deeper than your grindr profiles jarnauguara and whatever the other guys called.

[Ahldagor]

Pokesan, can you smell the desperation pheromones?

[Xaanka]

Pokesan, can you smell the desperation pheromones?

is there something wrong with the middle east? i thought it was perfectly fine just like islam. i don't see what's so much better about europe. are you one of those racist nazis i keep hearing about?

[Ahldagor]

is there something wrong with the middle east? i thought it was perfectly fine just like islam. i don't see what's so much better about europe. are you one of those racist nazis i keep hearing about?

Kek. Lol levels there pards?

[Rader]

Pokesan, can you smell the desperation pheromones?

How special, you have a fancy pants name for when you fart.

[originalman]

i am literally a live-in bull in real life. not trolling

[Pokesan]

lol its been like 6 months since the election and he's already finding himself wrapped up in fraud investigations nobody needs to discredit bernie he was a joke on his own and anyone still cuckin' after they got swindled is the lowest rung of the political/autistic spectrum

pizzagate detective agency is on the case

[Lune]

If you see someone caught up in an road accident bleeding in his car, do you just drive away ..? I mean, there's a reasonable chance it's HIS fault, maybe he's high, maybe he's drunk, maybe he was texting.. why should i have to stop for him when i'm on my way to business meetings that will give work to a dozen family..?

You guys are advocating leaving people to drown in the mediterranean sea. I'm advocating to save them and examine their situation if they rightfully can be considered as a refugee fleeing persecution.

But who am i trying to convince ? People that think that poor people are just lazy losers. People that are applauding their buffoon that's pulling out of climate agreements because hey, it's not my problem if the seychelles are disappearing under the sea, it's their problem, they should just build dams and learn to swim. I guess they just lack the entrepreneurship of our superior culture, fucking primitives.

I'm not anti-asylum or even anti-immigration, per-se, but I am anti-invasion.

There are lawful avenues for entering Western countries, and when these people elect to hop on a raft and enter a country illegally, they are invading. If they view the legal avenues as inadequate or unfair, it's not their prerogative to disregard them. After all, those laws are the will of the people within that country, telling their government "I want this many immigrants". No European nation's populace ever chose to accept hundreds of thousands of immigrants until it was forced on them, as if you had dinner set out and a stranger walked in the door and sat down at a place. And you figured, well, ok you can have some, it's too much trouble to call the cops and remove you and we have extra, he must be hungry anyway.

Immigrants have the capacity to improve whatever society they are going to. Living in California, some of my best friends have been first or second generation immigrants who were truly great people. One of my friends in college was even an undocumented vietnamese bananacrate-baby. Note that these people were my friends. They weren't living cordoned off in a parallel society, they went to my school, spoke my language, and associated with me. When done correctly, it's a great thing. When done incorrectly (ie, too many, or not vetted), you end up with Molenbeek or Salinas, places where an entire cloistered community has formed, separated from the wider society, and assimilation has stagnated.

Anyway that's the distinction I make. I have no problem with 30,000 or even 300,000 immigrants entering California, as long as it's lawful. I do have a problem with 3 million, illegally, which is what happened. (The figure is actually 2.3 million)

[originalman]

*huffs the scent of his sweaty hands*

[mickmoranis]

I'm not anti-asylum or even anti-immigration, per-se, but I am anti-invasion.

There are lawful avenues for entering Western countries, and when these people elect to hop on a raft and enter a country illegally

yeah its almost like they're home has been blown up and their family killed. What jerks.

Look, if you're going to stretch the narrative to "INVASION" then its equally fair to stretch the narrative that every one of them is jesus and marry.

[maskedmelon]

allocating resources to failed conditions is fundamentally immoral because it subsidizes and promotes suffering, while limiting potential advancement with reduced investment in more efficient conditions. caring for failed conditions is both selfish and irrational. It is detrimental to humanity and results in higher net suffering. It is betting the future of humanity on hope. it is irresponsible and selfish.

reason can deliver answers to moral conundra given the right premise.

[Lune]

yeah its almost like they're home has been blown up and their family killed. What jerks.

Look, if you're going to stretch the narrative to "INVASION" then its equally fair to stretch the narrative that every one of them is jesus and marry.

That's a little dramatic, don't you think? The majority of these people aren't from Syria, but from Afghanistan, Somalia, Equatorial Guinea, Libya, etc. And if your house burns down and you need to leave, nothing is forcing you to go to Northern Europe, nevermind the Balkans, nevermind Southern Europe.

Very few of their houses were blown up, and if they were, it wasn't by us. You're making a point applicable to 30,000 to describe 300,000

[Xaanka]

yeah its almost like they're home has been blown up and their family killed. What jerks.

Look, if you're going to stretch the narrative to "INVASION" then its equally fair to stretch the narrative that every one of them is jesus and marry.

do you really think muslims are integrating into the west? if you are so deeply in support of flooding europe with muslims, why have you not suggested any ideas to help integrate them into western society? it's clearly an issue and pretending they aren't living in cloistered religious communities, ignoring the laws of places they live etc you've never even met or interacted with these people and clearly haven't the slightest clue that you're talking about. you are pretending that very real issues with this mass migration don't exist instead of proposing solutions to solve them, you sound beyond delusional, out of touch with reality and that's why you aren't changing any minds.

also why do you need to pretend these people are all displaced by conflict and war when you try to incite sympathy? why can't you just be honest about where these people actually come from and what their motivations for wanting to be here are?

all i see are fake ass, flawed and weak moral high horse arguments from you, and you can't even support your claims enough to give yourself the moral high ground in the first place.

i understand why you see yourself as moral, but you are suggesting something which is incredibly immoral and bad for pretty much everyone.

look i'm not here to forsake anyone. up until a few months ago a large part of my family including my own mother were illegal immigrants. her illegal migration is how i hold US citizenship. i wouldn't be alive if my family didn't flee France as refugees. i love the legal ones too. pretty much anyone who comes here because they love our culture and want to become a part of it to provide a better life for their families. i have no love for those who come here seeking to destroy and undermine and take advantage of it.

[Ahldagor]

do you really think muslims are integrating into the west? if you are so deeply in support of flooding europe with muslims, why have you not suggested any ideas to help integrate them into western society? it's clearly an issue and pretending they aren't living in cloistered religious communities, ignoring the laws of places they live etc you've never even met or interacted with these people and clearly haven't the slightest clue that you're talking about. you are pretending that very real issues with this mass migration don't exist instead of proposing solutions to solve them, you sound beyond delusional, out of touch with reality and that's why you aren't changing any minds.

also why do you need to pretend these people are all displaced by conflict and war when you try to incite sympathy? why can't you just be honest about where these people actually come from and what their motivations for wanting to be here are?

all i see are fake ass, flawed and weak moral high horse arguments from you, and you can't even support your claims enough to give yourself the moral high ground in the first place.

i understand why you see yourself as moral, but you are suggesting something which is incredibly immoral and bad for pretty much everyone.

look i'm not here to forsake anyone. up until a few months ago a large part of my family including my own mother were illegal immigrants. her illegal migration is how i hold US citizenship. i wouldn't be alive if my family didn't flee France as refugees. i love the legal ones too. pretty much anyone who comes here because they love our culture and want to become a part of it to provide a better life for their families. i have no love for those who come here seeking to destroy and undermine and take advantage of it.

Lol, anchor baby.

[Xaanka]

Lol, anchor baby.

:D

[originalman]

...where it is reported bannon called kushner a, quote, cuck and a globalist...

[Lune]

...where it is reported bannon called kushner a, quote, cuck and a globalist...

It blows my mind that one leader of 300 million and 20 trillion called another leader of 300 million and 20 trillion a cuck, which all started several years ago in /tv/ louis ck posts

meme magic is real

[Ahldagor]

:D

System's working as planned.

[originalman]

all started several years ago in /tv/ louis ck posts

lune...
:(:(:(:(

[Lune]

lune...
:(:(:(:(

what? louis ck was a /tv/ thing long before cucking was a /pol/ thing

[originalman]

ya but what has trump actully done (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4566964/Kathy-Griffin-claims-Trump-family-ruined-life.html)

[originalman]

what? louis ck was a /tv/ thing long before cucking was a /pol/ thing

this is a REALLY good angle. im officially triggered

[Xaanka]

i am literally a live-in bull in real life. not trolling

hey im cucking someone too nice

[Pokesan]

thomas is a very popular name among the children of immigrants. their nieces and nephews love them all the same.

ya but what has trump actully done (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4566964/Kathy-Griffin-claims-Trump-family-ruined-life.html)

'We don't know that. You're assuming that everything that Trump says is true, and in fact, we know that everything Trump says is false,' said Bloom.

[originalman]

'he broke me' -that really annoying guest star from seinfeld

(https://youtu.be/D6MHFHn9mH4)

[AenorVZ]

It runs in the family. Ask the Cuckold in Chief.

[AzzarTheGod]

ya but what has trump actully done (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4566964/Kathy-Griffin-claims-Trump-family-ruined-life.html)

lmao the fat king is keeping foot on necks until a bone breaks

[mickmoranis]

why women are payed 70c on the dollar at work (https://streamable.com/h6do7)

[Lune]

why women are payed 70c on the dollar at work (https://streamable.com/h6do7)

I worked in an all-male workplace one summer. Will always look back on that with profound yearning and nostalgia.

We used to tape live spiders to our timecards because the dude who did the payroll was an arachnophobe.

A bit of sack tap and grabass. Used to send each other pictures of our turds

Now that I think about it it was pretty gay

[Rader]

why women are payed 70c on the dollar at work (https://streamable.com/h6do7)

1) They prioritize child-raising higher than men. 2) They choose lesser paying but more fulfilling jobs more than men, and let their men choose higher-paying but less fulfilling jobs. 3) They do not negotiate as hard for higher pay then men. 4) Statistics do not account for differences in education and experience properly, and gains that women have made in these areas have not quite evened out yet. 5) Men bosses discriminate against women subordinates. So, when you factor in legitimate reasons why there are differences in pay, the truth is that women are paid 94c on the dollar at work for misogynist reasons. And if all this truth triggers you, explain why enlightened liberals such as Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Schumer have the biggest gender differences when you look at what they pay their staffers?

[originalman]

1) They prioritize child-raising higher than men. 2) They choose lesser paying but more fulfilling jobs more than men, and let their men choose higher-paying but less fulfilling jobs. 3) They do not negotiate as hard for higher pay then men. 4) Statistics do not account for differences in education and experience properly, and gains that women have made in these areas have not quite evened out yet. 5) Men bosses discriminate against women subordinates. So, when you factor in legitimate reasons why there are differences in pay, the truth is that women are paid 94c on the dollar at work for misogynist reasons. And if all this truth triggers you, explain why enlightened liberals such as Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Schumer have the biggest gender differences when you look at what they pay their staffers?

and wut % of their 6 cents of remaining disadvantage is cuz of the minor chemical lobotomy their hormones kindly provide to make their life as breeding equipment more bearable? or is that question a misogyny

[Rader]

and wut % of their 6 cents of remaining disadvantage is cuz of the minor chemical lobotomy their hormones kindly provide to make their life as breeding equipment more bearable? or is that question a misogyny

Women are superior beings, not money-grubbing jerks like most men. Also, men need wealth to get laid, for the most part. Women, on the other hand, can get satisfaction from being kind, warm-hearted and really sexy looking. So why are you shocked that men make more money than women? Are you just that stupid?

[Lune]

Women are superior beings, not money-grubbing jerks like most men. Also, men need wealth to get laid, for the most part. Women, on the other hand, can get satisfaction from being kind, warm-hearted and really sexy looking. So why are you shocked that men make more money than women? Are you just that stupid?

If men moneygrub because women won't sex them without it, then who is truly moneygrubbing?

[Pokesan]

i think we know (((who)))

[originalman]

i think we know (((who)))

ur joking but their outer-cloister colonial (((religion))) squashed true love between actual humans for centuries (well u could still get it with a big dab of ritual violence on top if u agreed to spread their brain disaease lol)

[mickmoranis]

If men moneygrub because women won't sex them without it, then who is truly moneygrubbing?

oh oh i know!

the human.

[mickmoranis]

I think the single greatest threat to human kind is the individuals belief that they are an independent being.

[originalman]

I think the single greatest threat to human kind is the individuals belief that they are an independent being.

but we arleady knew ur for bernie

[mickmoranis]

its not even about that, its about people thinking they have original thoughts, its ridiculous.

All these people be like, "OH WELL THIS IS THE PROBLEM" its like jesus christ when will everyone just shutup. They arent the ONE person who has it figured out.

[Lune]

I think the single greatest threat to human kind is the individuals belief that they are an independent being.

its not even about that, its about people thinking they have original thoughts, its ridiculous.

All these people be like, "OH WELL THIS IS THE PROBLEM" its like jesus christ when will everyone just shutup. They arent the ONE person who has it figured out.

http://i.imgur.com/FT9DuxW.jpg

[originalman]

its not even about that, its about people thinking they have original thoughts, its ridiculous.

All these people be like, "OH WELL THIS IS THE PROBLEM" its like jesus christ when will everyone just shutup. They arent the ONE person who has it figured out.

i have original thoughts. for instance im fiscally right wing and socially left wing at the same time.

[mickmoranis]

yall dont get it, the irony that I do and none else do is not lost on me though.

If im right, then im simultaneously wrong.

But I am right.

[mickmoranis]

http://i.imgur.com/FT9DuxW.jpg

dont be a fool lune, this is the equivalent of a liberal calling someone a racist.

But hey, one thing I have to say is all the woke people on the internet sure got us talking about the important stuff, im sure glad we stopped even mentioning the 1% anymore.

well played ya pawns.

[AzzarTheGod]

thats a juicy past 2-3 pages from a quick glance.

havent read any of it yet

but its charging my wallet up im about ready to drop some bands on your asses again...real soon...real soon...

brace for impact

[originalman]

dont be a fool lune, this is the equivalent of a liberal calling someone a racist.

But hey, one thing I have to say is all the woke people on the internet sure got us talking about the important stuff, im sure glad we stopped even mentioning the 1% anymore.

well played ya pawns.

i mention them plenty and get called a antisemite

[Pokesan]

i mention them plenty and get called a antisemite

that's your own fault. learn to whistle.

[Lune]

dont be a fool lune, this is the equivalent of a liberal calling someone a racist.

But hey, one thing I have to say is all the woke people on the internet sure got us talking about the important stuff, im sure glad we stopped even mentioning the 1% anymore.

well played ya pawns.

That ship has sailed. The American people have demonstrated they are perfectly content with letting the 1% rule over them like a bunch of serfs.

There's really nothing to talk about. We all (non fiscal conservatives) know what needs to happen and it's not going to happen with the country run by corporate puppets the next 2-8 years.

[Ahldagor]

Quick comment on the Paris accord pull out, yeah, 2020 is when that'll take effect, so it's feckless politics continuing on.

[mickmoranis]

That ship has sailed. The American people have demonstrated they are perfectly content with letting the 1% rule over them like a bunch of serfs.

There's really nothing to talk about. We all (non fiscal conservatives) know what needs to happen and it's not going to happen with the country run by corporate puppets the next 2-8 years.

yep but whos really to blame? The 1%, the conservatives that vote for their puppets in the name of free speech online or the people who think Russia are trying to steel our democracy?

[Pokesan]

yep but whos really to blame? The 1%, the conservatives that vote for their puppets in the name of free speech online or the people who think Russia are trying to steel our democracy?

https://twitter.com/craftypanda/status/863564616026263555

[AzzarTheGod]

That ship has sailed. The American people have demonstrated they are perfectly content with letting the 1% rule over them like a bunch of serfs.

There's really nothing to talk about. We all (non fiscal conservatives) know what needs to happen and it's not going to happen with the country run by corporate puppets the next 2-8 years.

A combination of factors:

1) sugar (its a narcotic proven to have opioid activity, its addictive, it softens the psyche and emotional logic of anyone who ingests it regularly) evidence of sugars having various effects and influences on endogenous opioids (we ingest opioids regularly through grains and milk products, everyone ingests them) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0091305796000160 . http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305796002274 Sugars modify and intensify the effect of opiates, especially morphine (which is in our body). Most Europeans are aware of the pitfalls of sugar as of 100 years ago. America, not even close. Most wealthy men in Europe have declined sugar their entire lives.

- presumptive release of opioids in response to glucose intake in humans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15976207

- marked analgesia (no reaction to painful stimuli) in human newborns given oral glucose: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9055897

now fuck off n get woke ya dumb cake eating bitch

2) Flouride (proven to have nothing to do with teeth, its a metal that slugs the brain down similar to lithium through throttling upward of calcium uptake which has some impact on calcium channel activity in the brain. proven to overload the brain with calcium causing calcium-gated channels to become slower due to whats called upregulation. Basically, brain tolerance to the constant presence of calcium in places where it should be much lower level. no time to explain how those channels work cya kid)

Flouride has proven associations with a loss of between 5-8 IQ points on average compared to non-flourided peoples.

3) Television (probably the biggest, dont care to elaborate, see number 4)

4) ZOG cocksuckers (OK I lied THIS is the biggest factor)

5) Virtue signalling (virtue signalling is another way to pit people against each other, divide us up. Make us fight each other over petty ideals such as respecting everyone elses fringe cultural beliefs and activities i.e. transgenderism, women in sports, women acting in official capacities, and so forth. To a lesser extent gayism is also used to divide the population by making 2 sides entrench into the dirt thinking they cannot co-exist because each side has been taught cast-type behaviors and has become a living breathing stereotype in the process.

I could go on for pages if I gave a shit.

[originalman]

A combination of factors:

1) sugar (its a narcotic proven to have opioid activity, its addictive, it softens the psyche and emotional logic of anyone who ingests it regularly) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0091305796000160 . http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305796002274

2) Flouride (proven to have nothing to do with teeth, its a metal that slugs the brain down similar to lithium through throttling upward of calcium uptake which has some impact on calcium channel activity in the brain. proven to overload the brain with calcium causing calcium-gated channels to become slower due to whats called downregulation. Basically, brain tolerance to the constant presence of calcium in places where it should be much lower level. no time to explain how those channels work cya kid)

3) Television (probably the biggest, dont care to elaborate atm)

4) ZOG cocksuckers stay with a dick in their mouth (OK I lied THIS is the biggest factor)

5) Virtue signalling (virtue signalling is another way to pit people against each other, divide us up. Make us fight each other over petty ideals such as respecting everyone elses fringe cultural beliefs and activities i.e. transgenderism, women in sports, women acting in official capacities, and so forth. To a lesser extent gayism is also used to divide the population by making 2 sides entrench into the dirt thinking they cannot co-exist because each side has been taught cast-type behaviors and has become a living breathing stereotype in the process.

I could go on for pages if I gave a shit.

in a thousand years the regenerated aryan race will emerge from the catacombs, re-terraform the scorched planet and put this in their bible (after they find my buried hard drives in faraday cage)

[AzzarTheGod]

had to make a few corrections and edit down some of the obscenity. peddertalk guy is lurking somewhere out there dont want him to have a hypoglycemic episode.

[originalman]

had to make a few corrections and edit down some of the obscenity. peddertalk guy is lurking somewhere out there dont want him to have a hypoglycemic episode.

https://i.imgur.com/2w2mVvt.png

[Ahldagor]

Azzar, you're showing a lack of reading comprehension from those abstracts of the linked articles.

[Lune]

2) Flouride (proven to have nothing to do with teeth, its a metal that slugs the brain down similar to lithium through throttling upward of calcium uptake which has some impact on calcium channel activity in the brain. proven to overload the brain with calcium causing calcium-gated channels to become slower due to whats called upregulation. Basically, brain tolerance to the constant presence of calcium in places where it should be much lower level. no time to explain how those channels work cya kid)

Dumb. Excess calcium is regulated by your endocrine system and your body easily sequesters or excretes what it doesn't need. Take physiology kid

[AzzarTheGod]

Azzar, you're showing a lack of reading comprehension from those abstracts of the linked articles.

not true, you are just missing my extrapolations which would go on for more pages of explaining why those abstracts are relevant to the argument, and include several more abstracts to explain why those abstracts were slapped down.

The next few abstracts I would give you would probably be the abstracts I wanted in the first place. Hope that makes sense buddy.

ill admit i had trouble finding the abstracts i wanted within a 5 minute block of my life, and whipped the post up finnegans wake style. its literally been 10+ years since I had those abstracts I wanted on hand, and the search engine has changed since then and was doing a great job of hiding them from me.

[AzzarTheGod]

Dumb. Excess calcium is regulated by your endocrine system and your body easily sequesters or excretes what it doesn't need. Take physiology kid

yikes. looks like we are heading into flouride 101 boys

get ready for more abstracts. cringing hard dude

[AzzarTheGod]

http://users.physics.harvard.edu/~wilson/arsenic/references/shanxi.pdf

maybe this is something u can read ya moran Lune http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

huffpo right up your alley. one-shotted the bitch

[Patriam1066]

http://users.physics.harvard.edu/~wilson/arsenic/references/shanxi.pdf

maybe this is something u can read ya moran Lune http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

huffpo right up your alley

But what if ZOG published those studies because fluoride in the aqueducts was the key to Roman (Aryan) supremacy and you're actually just a shill for (((Sanders)))?

I'm just asking the tough questions

[Lune]

yikes. looks like we are heading into flouride 101 boys

get ready for more abstracts. cringing hard dude

Not arguing against fluoride possibly being harmful, what I'm looking for is something that corroborates your nonexistent understanding of how calcium is regulated in your body.

If fluoride is harming kids, it's not doing it by flooding their brains with calcium

Also, excessive fluoride is probably highly correlated with poorly managed water supplies which introduce numerous other intervening variables. The study you linked fron Shanxi was fluoride pollution (excessive levels), not public health supplementation, and it was coupled with arsenic.

[AzzarTheGod]

Yeah it is all handled by the endocrine system :rolleyes: cringe

Got the bitch dead to rights.

http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html


cut open a brain after a life of indirect contact with flouride, what do we find

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4213386/

flouride manipulating calcium levels

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/22/4/381.abstract

[AzzarTheGod]

Not arguing against fluoride possibly being harmful, what I'm looking for is something that corroborates your nonexistent understanding of how calcium is regulated in your body.

If fluoride is harming kids, it's not doing it by flooding their brains with calcium

Also, excessive fluoride is probably highly correlated with poorly managed water supplies which introduce numerous other intervening variables. The study you linked fron Shanxi was fluoride pollution (excessive levels), not public health supplementation, and it was coupled with arsenic.

one shot kid. has nothing to do with calcium regulation, it has to do with available calcium and manipulation of available calcium.

yeah some regulation, thats why the pineal gland is chalk full of flouride and extreme amounts of calcium then? I guess that is your indicator of this so-called regulation that is going on. Got em.

[Lune]

Yeah it is all handled by the endocrine system :rolleyes: cringe

Got the bitch dead to rights.

http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html


cut open a brain after a life of indirect contact with flouride, what do we find

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4213386/

flouride manipulating calcium levels

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/22/4/381.abstract

http://i.imgur.com/WUq3PEY.jpg

lol, look at this junk shit. N=10, bullshitted correlation

flouride manipulating calcium levels

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/22/4/381.abstract

These studies have shown that the intestinal absorption of calcium and the calcium balances did not improve during an intake of 20.6 mg sodium fluoride/day given for 22-42 days.

How does this support your conjecture exactly? Plasma calcium levels actually decreased.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/WUq3PEY.jpg

lol, look at this junk shit. N=10, bullshitted correlation





How does this support your conjecture exactly? Plasma calcium levels actually decreased.

lmao one shot kid.

ur the problem with politics that I was talking about in my 5star plan, you are always ready to get mired in the small details. I can see why you are so rustled about the bands I dropped in my 5 point plan to rebuild this country

you are ready to defend the safety of flouride despite the fact there is no carrier system to evenly distribute it into the water supply. you arent that stupid but ur a petty *********

[Lune]

lmao one shot kid.

ur the problem with politics though, you are always ready to get mired in the small details so I can see why you are so rustled about the bands I dropped in my 5 point plan to rebuild this country.

you are ready to defend the safety of flouride despite the fact there is no carrier system to evenly distribute it into the water supply. you arent that stupid

You're basing your argument on facts and data; small details matter.

I'm not defending the safety of fluoride. I'm autistically correcting an erroneous understanding of physiology.

[Pokesan]

patriam the only good poster on that page

[AzzarTheGod]

You're basing your argument on facts and data; small details matter.

I'm not defending the safety of fluoride. I'm autistically correcting an erroneous understanding of physiology.

Last I checked I wasn't able to provide any actual data with regard to flouride regulation in the brain though which is why it had no abstracts in the first place. And you are making a lot of presumptions.

It does seem pretty naive to assume that high levels of flouride in the brain aren't tilting cellular calcium in one direction or the other, given the eventual calcification of the pineal gland. My beef with you is that you are saying it DOESN'T as some sort of fact, and I am not necessarily saying I can prove that it DOES (within a 5 minute block of time).

You haven't backed up your claim it DOESN'T any more than I have backed up my claim that it DOES. So again back to my 5 star plan of you being a petty hypocritical bitch.

[Lune]

I read through those studies and the difference in IQ points was between "high fluoride (IE, toxic levels from pollution and poor water management), and low fluoride (the levels maintained for public health reasons), and then spun by clickbaity fearmongering news outlets like huffpo

[AzzarTheGod]

(the levels maintained for public health reasons),

cringed hard at the oxymoron "public health"

*Hurls big rock at Lune's head*

Got em

[Lune]

Last I checked I wasn't able to provide any actual data with regard to flouride regulation in the brain though which is why it had no abstracts in the first place. And you are making a lot of presumptions.

It does seem pretty naive to assume that high levels of flouride in the brain aren't tilting cellular calcium in one direction or the other, given the eventual calcification of the pineal gland. My beef with you is that you are saying it DOESN'T as some sort of fact, and I am not necessarily saying I can prove that it DOES (within a 5 minute block of time).

You haven't backed up your claim it DOESN'T any more than I have backed up my claim that it DOES. So again back to my 5 star plan of you being a petty hypocritical bitch.

You're claiming something. I reviewed your claim and poked holes in it, because it goes against what I learned about calcium regulation. You've got nothing that supports your assertion of calcium channel up-regulation being a source of fluoride-related damage. I'm not claiming the opposite, and I don't need to. Rejecting your claim returns us to "I don't know".

If someone claims stars are made of cigarette smoke, it's not true until somebody proves what stars are made of, the claim can be proven false.

[AzzarTheGod]

You're claiming something. I reviewed your claim and poked holes in it, because it goes against what I learned about calcium regulation. You've got nothing that supports your assertion of calcium channel up-regulation being a source of fluoride-related damage. I'm not claiming the opposite. Rejecting your claim returns us to "I don't know".


Would you make the same counter-claim about magnesium in the brain?

Answer that one big boy.

[Lune]

Would you make the same counter-claim about magnesium in the brain?

Answer that one big boy.

I don't know anything about magnesium

[AzzarTheGod]

No counter claim, but you said the endocrine system is capable of balancing it all out, so I guess there is no need to be concerned about flouride accumulation in the brain or calcium itself.

You insinuated flouride must have no effect on cellular calcium balance. Would you make the same claim about high levels of magnesium? No because you would be a real moran then.

Flouride eats magnesium, and they both have influences on calcium. Flouride could be eating cellular magnesium in the brain (if its eating magnesium though, it could be eating a number of things. CITED study despite the URL name http://fluoridealert.org/studies/magnesium/ ) and that could be the cause for stunted IQ in general.

its toxic, its probably stealing cellular neuro minerals and rendering a number of metals inactive, magnesium just being one of them.

[Lune]

Flouride eats magnesium

http://i.imgur.com/p4z8A6n.jpg

its toxic

In large doses. Not sure what that has to do with water you're drinking from a municipal supply that hasn't been mismanaged or polluted to shit.

If you want to be convincing, find a study that links the trace levels of fluoride supplemented for public health reasons to any negative health effects. That's what I would need to see to go "Oh shit this fluoride being added to our water on purpose is bad"

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/p4z8A6n.jpg



In large doses. Not sure what that has to do with water you're drinking from a municipal supply that hasn't been mismanaged or polluted to shit.

If you want to be convincing, find a study that links the trace levels of fluoride supplemented for public health reasons to any negative health effects. That's what I would need to see to go "Oh shit this fluoride being added to our water on purpose is bad"

Define "trace" since you can't account for the flouride level in the first place throughout the various distribution areas in the water supply. So your request criteria is bullshit to begin with.

its complete guesswork by the government. Good one though.

[AzzarTheGod]

Drastic increases in flouride uptake in the intestinal tract dependent on a very critical trace mineral that you have likely heard of http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3181/00379727-109-27275

proven intestinal absorption. the more I see, the more its obvious why the studies are not readily available. It would result in de-flouridation of the water supply overnight.

[Xaanka]

islamic truck of peace and cultural enrichment

reminder france is perfectly fine guys jarnooga was totally right about this one definitely nothing to see here

[AzzarTheGod]

1 sec xaanka im still planking on some asses here

[AzzarTheGod]

If you know anything about dental school, they teach drill and destroy. Cause problems, take healthy tooth and as much as possible. They have no interest in teeth, they are not medical doctors. They deal in mercury.

Keep sucking a fake sciences dick (Dentistry) and letting them tell you they really care about your teeth staying healthy. Protip: they don't, which is why dentistry is largely based around causing maximum damage to the teeth during a so-called cavity. It is a for-profit science, its based around making money off of teeth problems.

Lune is not that woke today.

[AzzarTheGod]

In large doses. Not sure what that has to do with water you're drinking from a municipal supply that hasn't been mismanaged or polluted to shit.

If you want to be convincing, find a study that links the trace levels of fluoride supplemented for public health reasons to any negative health effects. That's what I would need to see to go "Oh shit this fluoride being added to our water on purpose is bad"

So-called "trace" and the problems with flouride distribution and a review of the IGNORANCE of the inherent problems with flouride additives and flouride contamination.

Wow go figure the flouridation you are talking about isnt even clean flouride, its fucking nasty flouride waste.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4090869/

pack it in with your devils advocate routine in the name of "specifics" and "technicality" on an elf forum.

[Sidelle]

The American people have demonstrated they are perfectly content with letting the 1% rule over them like a bunch of serfs.
Oh, do you mean like how the un-elected & un-accountable single global government would rule America & everywhere else?

If anything, the American people have demonstrated loud & clear they want exactly the opposite of being ruled like serfs by the 1% corporate globalist cabal. We elected Trump the nationalist candidate for a reason & he totally delivered when he said NO to the Paris agreement. He offered to renegotiate the terms but apparently they didn't take him up on that. Oh well then. No president of this country should just hand over our wealth & sovereignty to such an un-democratic governing body. I would call that treason.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather we not usher in global enslavement & possible genocide, thank you very much. When will people learn there's no such thing as utopia or global harmony like on Star Trek.

[Lune]

Oh, do you mean like how the un-elected & un-accountable single global government would rule America & everywhere else?

If anything, the American people have demonstrated loud & clear they want exactly the opposite of being ruled like serfs by the 1% corporate globalist cabal. We elected Trump the nationalist candidate for a reason & he totally delivered when he said NO to the Paris agreement. He offered to renegotiate the terms but apparently they didn't take him up on that. Oh well then. No president of this country should just hand over our wealth & sovereignty to such an un-democratic governing body. I would call that treason.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather we not usher in global enslavement & possible genocide, thank you very much. When will people learn there's no such thing as utopia or global harmony like on Star Trek.

Look how many millions of dollars the American fossil fuel industry poured into Republican politicians to get them to advance this issue, and you say Trump's doing it to protect the little guy? Out of some humble promise to his supporters? Who? The coal industry? Coal employs fewer people than Arby's and it was killed by automation and natural gas, not environmental regulations. Coal is not coming back as a source of mass employment.

The Paris Agreement was a load of unenforceable horseshit anyway. Its only value was symbolic and everyone else "got it", except Trump and his lackeys.

The only thing Trump has delivered on is advancing the banner of tax cuts and deregulation to all his friends at Goldman Sachs and Wall Street (who also hold cabinet and advisory positions). What a real liberator of government. No tax cuts for you though, you're too poor.

[Sidelle]

Lune, I think you're the one who doesn't "get it" but that's okay. It's not against the law to criticize & voice my opinion... YET. We're still free to disagree with each other & I stand by what I said.

[AzzarTheGod]

The only thing Trump has delivered on is advancing the banner of tax cuts and deregulation to all his friends at Goldman Sachs and Wall Street (who also hold cabinet and advisory positions). What a real liberator of government. No tax cuts for you though, you're too poor.

The daily beast has a great article on this, as well as a comparison of Trump to about 10 predecessors who campaigned on similar politics and platform to Trump.

Including Bill Clinton. The party hacks can't stomach that one.

[mickmoranis]

I worry about florid in the water and chemtrails but fuck the FDA they are a goverment shadow org, I totally am sure corporations wont put nicotine in my granola.

[Pokesan]

islamic truck of peace and cultural enrichment

reminder france is perfectly fine guys jarnooga was totally right about this one definitely nothing to see here

http://i.imgur.com/TLe15Vk.png

[mickmoranis]

total techno-tronic neo feudalism

[Lune]

pic

That's fucking hilarious

[AzzarTheGod]

what type of penis is that its blue

[Tankdan]

https://i.imgur.com/WQV7w60.png

[Rader]

what type of penis is that its blue

Never seen blue penis before?

[Rader]

Never seen blue penis before?

Once you go smurf, you never go back.

[mickmoranis]

rader is a registered sex offender fyi

[Rader]

rader is a registered sex offender fyi

Papa Smurf is one twisted fuck, that is all I have to say.

[mickmoranis]

welp now rickrolling is sexist http://boingboing.net/2015/05/28/rickrolling-is-sexist-racist.html

[Pokesan]

nice bit of american male psyche above: gun is same thing as penis

[Xaanka]

part and parcel of living in a major city

[mickmoranis]

no matter who u r you go WHOAH and have a smile on your face after you shoot a gun.

Fat and short people mistake that as appreciation for them from the friendzoned friend of theirs they took shooting.

[AzzarTheGod]

no matter who u r you go WHOAH and have a smile on your face after you shoot a gun.

Fat and short people mistake that as appreciation for them from the friendzoned friend of theirs they took shooting.

lol woke

[Xaanka]

If you know anything about dental school, they teach drill and destroy. Cause problems, take healthy tooth and as much as possible. They have no interest in teeth, they are not medical doctors. They deal in mercury.

Keep sucking a fake sciences dick (Dentistry) and letting them tell you they really care about your teeth staying healthy. Protip: they don't, which is why dentistry is largely based around causing maximum damage to the teeth during a so-called cavity. It is a for-profit science, its based around making money off of teeth problems.

Lune is not that woke today.

lol literally the only thing you need to do to get woke if you're still cucked by believing in destistry, is to go to a different dentist and get a second opinion the next time they tell you that you have a cavity. why yes your little beeper machine is so precise and scientific that's why one of you thinks i have 13 cavities and the other one says i have 1 and then when i go back to the first dentist 2 months later i have 0.

surgeons and orthodontists are real doctors but lol if you think your dentist is anything more than a cashout on your insurance plan and "night guard" salesman

[originalman]

no matter who u r you go WHOAH and have a smile on your face after you shoot a gun.

Fat and short people mistake that as appreciation for them from the friendzoned friend of theirs they took shooting.

my parents thought i was a lil violent demon so they had me shoot a gun at like age 7 cuz they were sure it would scare me. now i put needles thru beta nutsacks for a living

[AzzarTheGod]

lol literally the only thing you need to do to get woke if you're still cucked by believing in destistry, is to go to a different dentist and get a second opinion the next time they tell you that you have a cavity. why yes your little beeper machine is so precise and scientific that's why one of you thinks i have 13 cavities and the other one says i have 1 and then when i go back to the first dentist 2 months later i have 0.

surgeons and orthodontists are real doctors but lol if you think your dentist is anything more than a cashout on your insurance plan and "night guard" salesman

i learned the hard way. i have 4 amalgams, and 3 of them are decent sized. the last one was done by a younger doctor intern, he took so much healthy tooth away that I narrowly avoided losing the tooth to a root canal. He had to re-do the filling 3 times, with 3 seperate visits with me all of sudden in pain where there was no issue. To not cause me any pain he basically poured the amalgam into my gumline so much that another dentist I saw about getting my amalgams removed 10 years later said "yo, if I touch that one, you will need a root canal, period. i cant remove that without serious injury and the idiot who did this really is a criminal. its also impacted into your gumline just a little bit, that is a big no-no. thats assault due to the mercury content its not approved for contact with skin" when i learned how badly i was fucked (no teeth problems of any kind since I quit dentistry at 21, go figure). He was a lawyer as well as being an anti-dentistry dentist, and wanted to get me to sue the idiot who was responsible for it. He was more interested in that than removing amalgams, which I appreciated because it spoke to his wake level. whenever i visited him he was always on the phone discussing litigation against various dentistry bodies doing gods work...real hero, with a nasty abrasive personality. But being a nasty son of a bitch is how you (((fight back)))

All my drilling was done to me without my consent at age 16 to 21 or so. After that I never saw a dentist again aside from to discuss amalgam methods (and as I thought, the offices were not equipped to remove amalgams, there is only maybe 3 places in the world that actually guarantee a very limited exposure to mercury during removal)

prior to the drilling i had no problems, no visible decay, no issues no pain no complaints and no problems.

Its so cringe man it makes me really sad that we are in the new milennium but big business interests still prevent dentistry from being reformed with non-traumatic non-drill procedures also known as ATD. but im just preaching to the choir. I just wish my parents weren't such worthless dumbasses, but its not their fault. They sacrificed absolutely all knowledge and happiness in exchange for abuse of various kinds in order to create a ritual to make money and have a family and replicate, as was their goal in life.

And I can appreciate that. But damn them bitches were so dumb it hurts :(

[Lune]

i learned the hard way. i have 4 amalgams, and 3 of them are decent sized. the last one was done by a younger doctor intern, he took so much healthy tooth away that I narrowly avoided losing the tooth to a root canal. He had to re-do the filling 3 times, with 3 seperate visits with me all of sudden in pain where there was no issue. To not cause me any pain he basically poured the amalgam into my gumline so much that another dentist I saw about getting my amalgams removed 10 years later said "yo, if I touch that one, you will need a root canal, period. i cant remove that without serious injury and the idiot who did this really is a criminal. thats assault" when i learned how badly i was fucked (no teeth problems of any kind since I quit dentistry at 21, go figure)

All my drilling was done to me without my consent at age 16 to 21 or so. After that I never saw a dentist again aside from to discuss amalgam methods (and as I thought, the offices were not equipped to remove amalgams, there is only maybe 3 places in the world that actually guarantee a very limited exposure to mercury during removal)

prior to the drilling i had no problems, no visible decay, no issues no pain no complaints and no problems.

Its so cringe man it makes me really sad that we are in the new milennium but big business interests still prevent dentistry from being reformed with non-traumatic non-drill procedures also known as ATD. but im just preaching to the choir. I just wish my parents weren't such worthless dumbasses, but its not their fault. They sacrificed absolutely all knowledge and happiness in order to make money and have a family and replicate, as was their goal in life.

And I can appreciate that.

There are shady dentists for sure. My mom went to one who recommended like 3 crowns, permanently destroying those teeth and requiring lifetime maintenance and replacement. She went to my dentist for a second opinion... she was like "Nah, those teeth are fine, we'll watch them and see how they progress".

I don't think you need to worry much about amalgams though, they don't leech very much mercury at all. You're getting 100x more from living within 200 miles of a coal power plant.

[AzzarTheGod]

I don't think you need to worry much about amalgams though, they don't leech very much mercury at all. You're getting 100x more from living within 200 miles of a coal power plant.

Yep it took me an assload of research to be comfortable with them. And like anything in politics, both sides were found to be grossly exaggerating their positions. Assuming healthy genetics, I'm right at the load where its considered an overall non-factor even by health nut standards. Adults don't see much effects anyway its mostly about protecting the developing brains and pregnant moms.

I did learn that some people have really shitty genetics for heavy metal processing.

[Ahldagor]

Azzar, why do you sound like Clutch lyrics with less marijuana and more meth influence on said lyrics?

Also, DNC through Al Franken has finally told HRC to shut the fuck up and move on.

[mickmoranis]

Azzar, why do you sound like Clutch lyrics with less marijuana and more meth influence on said lyrics?

Also, DNC through Al Franken has finally told HRC to shut the fuck up and move on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-franken-mean-tweets-hillary-clinton_us_56cf081be4b03260bf75962a

hes a fucking moran, that party will never move on.

[originalman]

ahttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-franken-mean-tweets-hillary-clinton_us_56cf081be4b03260bf75962a

hes a fucking moran, that party will never move on.

i went to this thru an archive mirror and found u were just trying to link a youtube video but instead linked the entire huffpost ad wrapper

you're gay, dude

[Patriam1066]

So dentistry is a fake science and a Zionist plot? Who knew

[originalman]

they dont want to fix shit dude
its about creating a prison planet
low wages
crowded conditions
no thought
no religion
family
ideals




to build there spaceship
so they can battle god




farakahn talks about how
the elites greatest fear
is the ufos
because
they know the truth as to what it is
and not the bullshit they tell u in sci fi shit
see everything exists within laws of science
the angels
travel via ufo
so they convince u
through
indepedence day
which is a movie
about fighting christ
on his return