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[Patriam1066]

ITT Californians who eat 99% kale telling Texans about steak

OY VEY

[Pokesan]

https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4

[Patriam1066]

https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4

https://youtu.be/YqE17eVBjLo

[Lune]

ITT Californians who eat 99% kale telling Texans about steak

OY VEY

I don't doubt Texas does meat better than California, but that's beside the issue because Texas BBQ is typically more about slow-cooking and the savage practice of putting BBQ sauce on meat (lol). When it comes to nice cuts where cooking technique matters, that's not what Texas is known for.

[mickmoranis]

ITT Californians who eat 99% kale telling Texans about steak

OY VEY

Hi my names neanderthal, im really tribal, I think my tribe is the best too. My species is really going to go places.

[Patriam1066]

California turned Bruce into Caitlyn Jenner

Next

[Lune]

momentary woke then the crash-and-burn

fuck the south busta detected

It was hyperbole but as a triptip aficionado I have to get used to sauce again.

Also not fuck the south, more like I'm moving there in less than a week and im sure the segregation and general backwardness will be a breath of fresh air

[mickmoranis]

It was hyperbole but as a triptip aficionado I have to get used to sauce again.

Also not fuck the south, more like I'm moving there in less than a week and im sure the segregation and general backwardness will be a breath of fresh air

#calexit

[Lune]

wut city bro level with me

Columbia SC

[Patriam1066]

Let's be honest here lune

You wouldn't like segregation? Seriously, be honest

[AzzarTheGod]

woke town. jealous.

go to wilmot and queen do a slow circle. ull see a structure wherein the god drew blood slaying boipucci

Cant keep my dick in my pants

Imma uziii a ouuuzzzyy

Follow me look at me

That new xxxtentacion is woke fuck jerry seinfeld n them white superpowers

[Lune]

Let's be honest here lune

You wouldn't like segregation? Seriously, be honest

If you're asking whether I'd prefer my community share similar values, sure.

But if you're asking if I think someone's race alone should be a factor in whether or not they are welcome in my community, then hell no.

I've never not lived in an upscale, segregated community, but in my case I believe it has always been primarily along economic lines. The racial minorities who made it in were very similar to me. I have an inkling things are a bit different in the South. Even in college, everyone pretty much just immediately segregated themselves by race, religion, and social class.

Regarding why the economic line and the racial line are so often the same, that's a conversation we can't have on this forum.

[Hitmonkey]

Can't wait to see it crush the Midwest and all the long term care facilities here in PA.

Seriously, can't wait.

Watching guys at work cheer it on when their RN wives work at hospital long term care facilities that are 99% white elderly people that Medicare pays for around 75% of the total patient cost, when that stops in this new bill those people will be told GTFO.

Horrible that people have to be hurt and some will die for sure but apparently this is what people want.

/Popcorn

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/qyF5huW.png

[mickmoranis]

I just hope and prey that charles manson gets to live long enough to see for absolute certainty he was right.

[Domo]

Always when I read about the american healthcare, I have this in mind (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1v5mybUcAAu2_W.jpg:large)
(I dont know if its fake or real, but kinda funny)

[Patriam1066]

Can't wait to see it crush the Midwest and all the long term care facilities here in PA.

Seriously, can't wait.

Watching guys at work cheer it on when their RN wives work at hospital long term care facilities that are 99% white elderly people that Medicare pays for around 75% of the total patient cost, when that stops in this new bill those people will be told GTFO.

Horrible that people have to be hurt and some will die for sure but apparently this is what people want.

/Popcorn

Where do you live that is 99% white

Gps coordinates please

[AzzarTheGod]

Where do you live that is 99% white

Gps coordinates please

Pls

[georgie]

Living optimal, good era to be young

[mickmoranis]

Always when I read about the american healthcare, I have this in mind (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1v5mybUcAAu2_W.jpg:large)
(I dont know if its fake or real, but kinda funny)

id say its fake but the liberals sucking eachothers dicks at the end is pretty par

[skarlorn]

check the pnw

That's why I can't live in PNW Long term. Too many whites gives me flash backs to growing up in blonde white Texas suburb prison and I start sweating bullets cause I KNOW I just KNOW that too many whites together is a very dangerous or very boring thing

[AzzarTheGod]

That's why I can't live in PNW Long term. Too many whites gives me flash backs to growing up in blonde white Texas suburb prison and I start sweating bullets cause I KNOW I just KNOW that too many whites together is a very dangerous or very boring thing

U made it out the burbs?? How young were you when you left? Did u ever look back?

basically instawoke for life off just this post alone bc I'm pretty sure ur California living for awhile now

[The Hand of Truth]

Can't wait to see it crush the Midwest and all the long term care facilities here in PA.

Seriously, can't wait.

Watching guys at work cheer it on when their RN wives work at hospital long term care facilities that are 99% white elderly people that Medicare pays for around 75% of the total patient cost, when that stops in this new bill those people will be told GTFO.

Horrible that people have to be hurt and some will die for sure but apparently this is what people want.

/Popcorn

I'm fairly certain this will not end the way they hope, but something has to be done to save what the ACA set in motion.

[Hitmonkey]

Where do you live that is 99% white

Gps coordinates please

The patient's are 99% white in these extended Care facilities just outside Philly.

Watching these trumpsters "cut everything unless it effects rich people" vs extreme libbs "we can pay for everyone" idiots crash medicad should be fun. I'm sure it won't effect the economy :confused:

[Jarnauga]

If you're asking whether I'd prefer my community share similar values, sure.

But if you're asking if I think someone's race alone should be a factor in whether or not they are welcome in my community, then hell no.

I've never not lived in an upscale, segregated community, but in my case I believe it has always been primarily along economic lines. The racial minorities who made it in were very similar to me. I have an inkling things are a bit different in the South. Even in college, everyone pretty much just immediately segregated themselves by race, religion, and social class.

Regarding why the economic line and the racial line are so often the same, that's a conversation we can't have on this forum.

highfive.gif

[Baler]

Does the past make you perceive the future differently?

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/mJ5mLBU.jpg

[Xaanka]

If you're asking whether I'd prefer my community share similar values, sure.

But if you're asking if I think someone's race alone should be a factor in whether or not they are welcome in my community, then hell no.

I've never not lived in an upscale, segregated community, but in my case I believe it has always been primarily along economic lines. The racial minorities who made it in were very similar to me. I have an inkling things are a bit different in the South. Even in college, everyone pretty much just immediately segregated themselves by race, religion, and social class.

Regarding why the economic line and the racial line are so often the same, that's a conversation we can't have on this forum.

idk why everyone assumes the south is any more racially segregated than your average major US city (its not)

[Ahldagor]

idk why everyone assumes the south is any more racially segregated than your average major US city (its not)

Some parts are. Usually backwoods folk that don't like anyone perpetuate it, but in general it's mainly through gentrification and real estate markets which is inevitable. We call the Greenspoint area in Houston gunspoint for a reason, gang activity out of the Acres Homes area. East Texas is another creature though.

[mickmoranis]

with respect i strongly disagree. it may not be universal in places like ATL but there is strict segregation in other places. check out nola some time.

Aint nobody who ever lives in a liberal city been inside a building that plays meriachi music unless its a Mexican themed restaurant full of white people.

In red states? Karaoke bars are Mariachi one song, david bowie the next.

[Xaanka]

with respect i strongly disagree. it may not be universal in places like ATL but there is strict segregation in other places. check out nola some time.

most major us cities are strictly racially self-segregated

[mickmoranis]

becuse of the same racism they protest about is my point is all. They just think their farts dont smell.

[Xaanka]

becuse of the same racism they protest about is my point is all. They just think their farts dont smell.

pretty much, i can legit say without meming that white people are by far the least, at least openly, racist race on the planet

[Pokesan]

What is racism without power?

[mickmoranis]

but whites have the power tho and u have to have that to be racist sooooo checkmate

tho this ideology is sound at a small level, once you expand it outside of the mind of a rational human being into the mind of the average person, it turns into SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[alexnoshinku]

Have to say, moving from my small hometown to a big city I started to notice how people play the race card a lot...and how some people are just so overly racist its scary. I mean come on...stop stereotyping people because of race...just because a doctor isn't the same race as you doesn't make them unqualified...or even the waitress you get at a restaurant, what makes them inferior to someone else?

[Pokesan]

who exists, isn't quadriplegic or in a Fritzl basement and completely lacks power?

Anyone with a credit score under 700.

[alexnoshinku]

i think the problem is once u let class struggle devour your mind, institutiono power becomes the only violent authority ur mind is allowed to recognize

have to say stuff like that bothers me, no one should look down upon anyone. Everyone has their struggles, their differences, but once you let your mind become clouded then you are no better than the next person who does it...it is a chain reaction because others want to follow because they see what power can do, yet not one thinks what affects it may cause since they only think of themselves...sad really

[alexnoshinku]

Anyone can be set up to success, nothing is impossible. So letting power, race, or anything cloud your judgement leaves you blindsided and you end up missing out on something you could have had. Yes sometimes things happen, but think before you act...are me not taught that...or has decades of traditions left most of us blind to the ever changing world?

[Pokesan]

We're like 3 feet away from intersectionality and I'm literally shaking

[AzzarTheGod]

Anyone can be set up to success, nothing is impossible. So letting power, race, or anything cloud your judgement leaves you blindsided and you end up missing out on something you could have had. Yes sometimes things happen, but think before you act...are me not taught that...or has decades of traditions left most of us blind to the ever changing world?

skeptical that this is a new/original poster. getting deja vu vibes not naming any names tho

[Ahldagor]

Saudis foiled a suicide bomber in Mecca.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40390010

[Rader]

That's why I can't live in PNW Long term. Too many whites gives me flash backs to growing up in blonde white Texas suburb prison and I start sweating bullets cause I KNOW I just KNOW that too many whites together is a very dangerous or very boring thing

Can there be "too many" black people together? Too many Hispanics in a gathering? Or worst of all, too many yellow slant-eyed people in one place?

[mickmoranis]

The thing I hate about my generation is not all the dumb shit we do, its how fucking slow like molassus we are to fucking start the god damn global ww3 / civil war 2

its like we think it might not happen or something? jesus christ people lets fucking rip down society on a global level already lets go lets go jesus i dont want to miss this shit like charlie is about to, and he fucking predicted it like 50 years ago COME ON DUDES GET OUT THERE

[alexnoshinku]

skeptical that this is a new/original poster. getting deja vu vibes not naming any names tho

I actually just realized the forms on here a month or so ago :) it helps pass time at work when I'm bored

[mickmoranis]

Can there be "too many" black people together?

yes at a better party than the one you are at.


Too many Hispanics in a gathering?

yes at all family diners across the country on any given sunday.

[B][SIZE="15"]Or worst of all, too many yellow slant-eyed people in one place?

yes at most high paying non finance level employment.

[mickmoranis]

I am just going to pretend you are a new poster and that we have more than 5 sickos here and i have a large group of "friends" I post with to make up for the severe lack of them i have irl.

[Rader]

have to say stuff like that bothers me, no one should look down upon anyone. Everyone has their struggles, their differences, but once you let your mind become clouded then you are no better than the next person who does it...it is a chain reaction because others want to follow because they see what power can do, yet not one thinks what affects it may cause since they only think of themselves...sad really

Everyone has struggles? Really, do Republicans have struggles?

[mickmoranis]

yes everyone struggles, especially here and especially republicans, which is why they so idiotically blame strangers they assume are not struggling for taking a free ride.

also they are all dishonest so they assume everyone else is too.

#hastagamericanflag

[Domo]

The thing I hate about my generation is not all the dumb shit we do, its how fucking slow like molassus we are to fucking start the god damn global ww3 / civil war 2

its like we think it might not happen or something? jesus christ people lets fucking rip down society on a global level already lets go lets go jesus i dont want to miss this shit like charlie is about to, and he fucking predicted it like 50 years ago COME ON DUDES GET OUT THERE


Wow. Hope you saying this only because you have a sad depressive life or something like this.

[mickmoranis]

Wow. Hope you saying this only because you have a sad depressive life or something like this.

hahahahahahahahaaha

"I hope this other poster on the emu elf sim server I post on has a depressive life or something"

HOPE

kid... i got bad news for you about your own life and all of ours.

[skarlorn]

U made it out the burbs?? How young were you when you left? Did u ever look back?

basically instawoke for life off just this post alone bc I'm pretty sure ur California living for awhile now
Real talk I moved to LA when I was 14 to attend an experimental college program for genius children

Lived in many places since then but mostly cali

[Patriam1066]

Real talk I moved to LA when I was 14 to attend an experimental college program for genius children

Lived in many places since then but mostly cali

Real talk

The church of Scientology isn't an experimental college program for genius children

Xenu Bless! Hope this helps!

[Patriam1066]

Wow. Hope you saying this only because you have a sad depressive life or something like this.

Sadly, Americans hate one another so much that they'd rather "fight" each other or someone else than work on a solution

I put fight in quotations because the average American is obese, diabetic, or both and so won't actually lift a finger. It's sad though. We were a better people in the 80s and 90s

[skarlorn]

Real talk

The church of Scientology isn't an experimental college program for genius children

Xenu Bless! Hope this helps!

Lol funnily enough I actually encountered those xenu cucks during that period of my life out on the streets with their stress tests. We would manipulate the scores when they asked questions about us getting abused and stuff to mess with em. Some memories, thnx for reminder

[Xaanka]

i love all this "retroactively pretending Obamacare isn't an absolute failure" going on by the hand-wringing left

yeah i'm on the best obamacare plan in the best state for obamacare and i have to drive 3 hours to see a fucking gastroenterologist with a waiting list shorter than half a year. i have to go to an inner city clinic as my primary care when i live an hour out in the burbs. i'm not even allowed to call my doctor unless its a medical emergency. I had to go to the ER 9 times in the past 3 weeks because I can't get into an actual hospital and get actual care with my Obamacare plan.

i know so many people claiming residency and receiving obamacare in my state, who don't live in my state. one of them may or may not be posting in this thread ;) it's laughably easy to defraud the system and nobody cares, if anything its encouraged.

during the election cycle all of the insurers in my state greatly over-reached in attempt to cover up for the fact that obamacare's failing and they're getting rejected left and right by providers ever since.

by the way Chris-Chan is getting government funded sexual reassignment surgery in February, how do yall feel about that?

[skarlorn]

glad AF i have private health insurance, sorry to hear about your troubles Xaanker.

[Xaanka]

glad AF i have private health insurance, sorry to hear about your troubles Xaanker.

dont get me wrong as a tranny obammercare greatly benefits me and works in my favor seeing as it's 0 copay on my >$1k a month in meds

but the patient care sucks and honestly at a point i'd rather just pay a bit every month and get better care. the way things are going i'll probably hit 50+ ER visits before i can see a gastro. i'm not being hyperbolic either, i unironically mean 50+ visits. please someone explain to me how this is cost-effective and not a totally broken system?

[Lune]

i love all this "retroactively pretending Obamacare isn't an absolute failure" going on by the hand-wringing left

yeah i'm on the best obamacare plan in the best state for obamacare and i have to drive 3 hours to see a fucking gastroenterologist with a waiting list shorter than half a year. i have to go to an inner city clinic as my primary care when i live an hour out in the burbs. i'm not even allowed to call my doctor unless its a medical emergency. I had to go to the ER 9 times in the past 3 weeks because I can't get into an actual hospital and get actual care with my Obamacare plan.

i know so many people claiming residency and receiving obamacare in my state, who don't live in my state. one of them may or may not be posting in this thread ;) it's laughably easy to defraud the system and nobody cares, if anything its encouraged.

during the election cycle all of the insurers in my state greatly over-reached in attempt to cover up for the fact that obamacare's failing and they're getting rejected left and right by providers ever since.

by the way Chris-Chan is getting government funded sexual reassignment surgery in February, how do yall feel about that?

Then why the fuck are you on obamacare? Get a real job and get some real insurance. How can you advocate for the free market and then bitch and complain when your gibsmedats aren't up to your standards of excellence?

Yea, Obamacare is horrible. It's broken. It was a massive sellout to insurance companies and it did little to address the underlying problems with healthcare in this country.

However, it did several important things: 1) It protected people with pre-existing conditions from literally dying or going bankrupt 2) It allowed a struggling younger generation to stay on their parents insurance longer 3) It got people talking about healthcare reform and introduced a lot of concepts into popular discourse

I also see it as a good thing that it gave coverage to millions of people who wouldn't have had it otherwise, but I'm not expecting the individualists to agree with that.

I don't think anyone reasonable defends ObamaCare as a perfect or even good solution. But the Republican proposal isn't even a solution. It does even less to address our problems than Obamacare did, while also removing some of the good and widely-popular parts of the reform.

[Xaanka]

Then why the fuck are you on obamacare? Get a real job and get some real insurance.

92% of employers background check in my area and the other 8% only hire illegals or friends/family. I've been dealing with a situation where I'm accused of having a criminal background by some major background check companies due to an expunged, not-guilty case, and they all buy data off each other. i've been suing background check companies and employers for 5 years now and living off that. last year i was fired from 5+ >100k tech jobs for this reason, it's not like i'm not trying.

[Xaanka]

don't get me wrong i'm all for the ideas behind obamacare but the implementation is trash. can't use the "republicans ruined it" argument either, i live in the state with the "best" and "purest" obamacare entirely untouched by any republican.

[Lune]

92% of employers background check in my area and the other 8% only hire illegals or friends/family. I've been dealing with a situation where I'm accused of having a criminal background by some major background check companies due to an expunged, not-guilty case, and they all buy data off each other. i've been suing background check companies and employers for 5 years now and living off that. last year i was fired from 5+ >100k tech jobs for this reason, it's not like i'm not trying.

If you want market healthcare then you just have to live with the fact that this is what happens to people who fail economically and then try to get healthcare.

Sounds like maybe socialized medicine would be a good thing for you, wouldn't it? Maybe some single payer?

I can't fathom why someone like you would vote for Trump knowing full well you rely on something his party aims to take away. You think it's bad not being able to see a gastroenterologist, just wait until seeing a physician isn't even covered.

[Xaanka]

i would rather pay for better, private healthcare and trump's plan will bring the cost down significantly. socialized medicine works great for me but there's more to things than "which party personally panders to me the most"

[Lune]

trump's plan will bring the cost down significantly

How is that exactly? You are apparently on an expanded medicaid which disappears entirely under Trumps plan. Which means instead of $0 copays you're on the hook for everything.

It also does nothing to bring down costs. Tax credits? You're apparently unemployed or living off of lawsuit settlements. Do you even file taxes? It does not help you.

For people who are capable of empathy, it's not just measuring what panders to you, rather to everyone in your situation. Got a criminal record and can't get a job? Apparently you don't like it when those people are left to rot.

[AzzarTheGod]

they shooting guns over it

it wont pass thx 4 comment

[Holyhawk]

So many Trump voters on Medicaid...

And at this point if you think Trump's plan is going to bring down costs, you are just retarded.

[AzzarTheGod]

And at this point if you think Trump's plan is going to pass as is, you are just retarded.

Fixed. Please continue

[mickmoranis]

ideally we get the country into some kind of limbo, pass nothing, but change everything just enough for insurance to swoop in and save the day, while making record proffits.

I mean ideally for anyone but everyone that this will happen to over the next few years.

[Xaanka]

How is that exactly? You are apparently on an expanded medicaid which disappears entirely under Trumps plan. Which means instead of $0 copays you're on the hook for everything.

It also does nothing to bring down costs. Tax credits? You're apparently unemployed or living off of lawsuit settlements. Do you even file taxes? It does not help you.

For people who are capable of empathy, it's not just measuring what panders to you, rather to everyone in your situation. Got a criminal record and can't get a job? Apparently you don't like it when those people are left to rot.

it makes private out of pocket (good, functioning) insurance cheaper.

yes it means i will have to pay for things. abloo hoo the care provided sucks terribly.

[AzzarTheGod]

it makes private out of pocket (good, functioning) insurance cheaper.


i can pras that

[mickmoranis]

i would rather pay for better, private healthcare and trump's plan will bring the cost down significantly. socialized medicine works great for me but there's more to things than "which party personally panders to me the most"

yeah I want it back to the way it was 16 years ago when we were like, ok this shits broken we need to fix it.

And that being the solution.

WHEEEE!!!!! Life was great this round.

[Pokesan]

i'd just like to point out that not all trannys are scam artists. there are many honest hardworking americans among them.

[AzzarTheGod]

From what I've seen it's only a small minority of passable trans that do not do sex work.

The less attractive the body the more likely they hold a 9-5 and dress as a man during the day.

[skarlorn]

it would be awesome if everyone in the greatest country known to man (we invented everquest, after all) got dank 100% free health care, regardless of employment (it's hard to work well when u siqer than FCk)

but instead we gonna pour that dosh into the rich fat daddy pockits and keep being cucked online by russian chinese while we are Puppet String'd into being an international bully with pockets deeper than a Debt Hole to keep the third worlders in line cranking out Gear, Coke (quadruple entendre intended), and Hos

*backs away from the shitpost)

[Patriam1066]

I want more healthcare competition, including a state run insurance option like Germany has

I'll be honest though, id rather be a serf than payfor xaanka's tranny meds

[Lune]

it makes private out of pocket (good, functioning) insurance cheaper.

yes it means i will have to pay for things. abloo hoo the care provided sucks terribly.

And how does it do that? The things about Obamacare that caused increases in premiums (forcing a bunch of sick old obese people into the pool of insured and capping their rate, foremost) remain unchanged in the proposed legislation, unless your state opts out. And it sounds like you're in a blue state that won't opt out.

Basically the fact that insurance companies are forced by the government to offer insurance to diabetics and heart attack survivors rather than letting them die, is a large part of what is raping your premiums. AHCA does nothing about this for someone in a blue state. And by the way this isn't going to change until you start controlling the highly inflated cost of healthcare services by cutting out insurance middlemen and reforming pharmaceutical law. Or until you start letting people die again like before obamacare.

[Patriam1066]

I hate to use the word honest so much, but let's be honest. Me and Ahldagor are the only ones paying taxes here

Lune will when he's 35 maybe

[skarlorn]

I pay taxes fucker

[AzzarTheGod]

I've paid taxes on my no-show as has originalman there's a whole gang of tax payers on this forum

[mickmoranis]

I hate to say this becuse "should" is a fucking stupid thing to say about politics anymore, since weve proven we "wont" do "anything" that we "should" do let alone "dont" do right now.

But we should print what percentages of your taxes go to what broad programs on your paycheck, instead of just state and federal percentages only.

Social Security:24% $X.XX
Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies:25% $X.XX
Defense and international security assistance:16% $X.XX
Safety net programs:10% $X.XX
Benefits for federal retirees and vets: 8% $X.XX
Transportation and infrastructure: 2% $X.XX
Education: 3% $X.XX
Science and Medical Research: 2% $X.XX
Non-secruity international: 1% $X.XX
Other: 3% $X.XX

[mickmoranis]

What I want to know if the 'other' percentage is take out from a few select pizza parlors, if you know what I mean.

[Ahldagor]

Wait for the language allowing insurance companies to penalise people who have not had continuous coverage which virtually acts as a mandate. Demand will still be artificial, and Xaanka's just an attention whore.

[aaezil]

haha incoming poor/rural areas getting fucked. his angry retarded constituents are bout to get even more angry lol

[mickmoranis]

Ill bet every one of you hes going to landslide in 2020 even if we are in the middle of a great depression.

[Pokesan]

The high school I graduated from had about 450 students and two half black brothers, one who chose to go by the name of Bubba. My previous high school had almost 1000 students and only one black kid; he was also the only openly gay student I knew of. Before that I lived in a much more diverse area, but I'm surprised people are aghast at the fact that some areas are 99% white. These places exist.

yeah retirement communities are like that

[Pokesan]

yes very

[brightlights]

Jeremy, blue state?

[brightlights]

Par for the course

[AzzarTheGod]

What I want to know if the 'other' percentage is take out from a few select pizza parlors, if you know what I mean.

smilin hard

[AzzarTheGod]

Ill bet every one of you hes going to landslide in 2020 even if we are in the middle of a great depression.

Like Barry said only he was capable of mobilizing the base enough to win against a populist movement, and he wasn't allowed to run.

[mickmoranis]

Some austin band is dropped from their label for having 'ugly' opinions on feminism, immigration and some other bullshit. The irony is they are totally reasonable but that is like saying zeig heil to the left.

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/dream-machine-castle-face-records/

[Ahldagor]

Some austin band is dropped from their label for having 'ugly' opinions on feminism, immigration and some other bullshit. The irony is they are totally reasonable but that is like saying zeig heil to the left.

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/dream-machine-castle-face-records/

Hipsters aren't people mick. Thought we agreed on this.

[mickmoranis]

They are the driving force in all liberal ideology tho so get your facts straight

[AzzarTheGod]

Wone was straight and married with a solid career. The multi-million dollar house owner, also a successful lawyer.

All the men were well-to-do gays and were in a polyamorous relationship. They seemingly had it all. Money, success, careers in law, and were moving their way up the D.C. ranks.

Some of the men had ALT.com profiles (S&M and other fringe sexual fetish site)


Is this why one cannot have gay friends? I've heard about emotions spilling over and how a gay person could just randomly explode on a straight person over the years, including explosive phonecalls.

Say it ain't so originalman.

http://gawker.com/5474123/the-weird-weirdos-accused-of-murdering-robert-wone

[AzzarTheGod]

Should Wone have discriminated against Price and his gay friends for their preference?

Was this situation avoidable? Was there something socially that Wone should have known? Or were these men just truly weirdos with their alternative lifestyle choices having nothing to do with the actual murder?

Its the hard questions that weren't asked. Now is the time to weigh in on this Washington D.C. sexual assault murder mystery.

[AzzarTheGod]

Eric Holder personally advised the victim's family pro bono, and gave them the full resources of his law firm prior to being made Attorney General.

All 3 accused settled a 20 million dollar suit out of court, thanks to Eric Holder's dream team.

Can't repost it here due to peddertalk, but this article details the practices and the autopsy. The straight guy seems to have been assaulted by an electro device prior to his death, as well as possibly having been injected with an anesthetic.

Did the S&M scene play more of a role than the LGBTQ? You decide which element was ultimately responsible for the death of 32 year old married man Attorney Wone. It seems unlikely Wone was a willing participant given the homicide that took place after the electro play..

Article NSFW, due to details


http://gawker.com/5275850/today-in-dcs-polyamorous-gay-murder-lets-learn-about-electro-ejaculation

[mickmoranis]

HEALTHCARE:

So what is a pre-existing condition anyway? I really never understood to be honest.

Does that mean, if I get insurance, and then go in for a check up, get a chest xray and it turns out i got cancer.

Does the doctor go, hmm this looks like this cancer is like 6-9 months old, and youve only had insurance for 3.. so, this is a PRE existing condition.

or does it mean, something pre diagnosed in a prior insurance agreement? So say, I was diagnosed with something, then lose insurance cus I like lost my job, then try to get insurance again, with a new job, does that mean the new insurance wont cover the condition that was diagnosed durring my last job?

I just never understood how this shit works.

Hypothetically could we have an awesome shit show, where everyone loses ACA, but then everything that they were diagnosed with during the ACA is now NOT covered by the new insurance, even though they would have just kept the ACA had the gop not shut it down, and had it covered?

That shitshow would be hilarious.

[Rader]

HEALTHCARE:

So what is a pre-existing condition anyway? I really never understood to be honest.

Does that mean, if I get insurance, and then go in for a check up, get a chest xray and it turns out i got cancer.

Does the doctor go, hmm this looks like this cancer is like 6-9 months old, and youve only had insurance for 3.. so, this is a PRE existing condition.

or does it mean, something pre diagnosed in a prior insurance agreement? So say, I was diagnosed with something, then lose insurance cus I like lost my job, then try to get insurance again, with a new job, does that mean the new insurance wont cover the condition that was diagnosed durring my last job?

I just never understood how this shit works.

Hypothetically could we have an awesome shit show, where everyone loses ACA, but then everything that they were diagnosed with during the ACA is now NOT covered by the new insurance, even though they would have just kept the ACA had the gop not shut it down, and had it covered?

That shitshow would be hilarious.

It is really not that hard to get, folks. Think of home owner insurance. You can't get insurance after your house burns down, and expect them to replace it.

[mickmoranis]

ok, so that is just the stupidest answer I could have hoped for.

[Rader]

ok, so that is just the stupidest answer I could have hoped for.

I can't help it if you refuse to yank your head out of that warm place.

[AzzarTheGod]

hold up gettin my hand lubed up then ill read the article & ur posts

Smilin hard

#proudboy

[mickmoranis]

I can't help it if you refuse to yank your head out of that warm place.

dude its a stupid anology becuse theyre not the same its like saying, how do I avoid prison?

Dont break speed limits.

Seriously I just want to fucking ask a regular question to you retards so get answering fagot.

Itd be like if your house started burning down, and in the middle of it your insurance was taken away from you and then you tried to get new insurance, thats more comparable.

[AzzarTheGod]

Only philosophers should be binding u.



Woke. On my phone.

alternate theory offered by private investigators is if you absolutely believe the dom daddy (Joe Price) was not involved in the murder, and that Wone at least had some idea or even consented, although it's possible the dom daddy house owner drugged and raped him, this seems unlikely being that he was a successful attorney with a nice piece of real estate under his name. unless he was just that deep into the s&m world but its Irrelevant for this theory.

The theory is that it was a play date advertised somewhere (alt is possible but could have been a Craigslist thing) and they were going to bring this straight guy to Jesus and initiate him.

The trick shows up, Joe Price had the door unlocked (standard protocol for anonymous s+m fantasies) the trick comes in at some point he's all strung out and hopped up and unloads his aggression on the victim. Maybe Wane was conscious at some point and did something to set the trick off, however lack of any defensive wounds or bruising had police rule out Wane defending himself so it's not likely he set the trick off.

For this theory it's more plausible that the trick shows up with the intent to kill him from the beginning unknown to everyone else because this type of play involves unknowns (only 79 minutes had passed from the time Wane arrived to the time Wane was murdered according to the 911 tape which gave a frame of reference) and kills him very quickly with a knife. Then we get into the knife evidence which showed the knife left at Wane had blood planted on it, and the forsenics said that knife doesn't match the wounds. Why was this done? If a trick truly came in and killed him with a knife from their house why not just leave it at that? I think the coverup was because of the daddy dom needing to not reveal to police anything about any play date due to the fact that whether the play date was consensual or not he was smart enough to know the police would absolutely claim it was not consensual and it could be enough to make a murder indictment stick.

And that's why all we got was welp nobody knows nothin nobody saw nothing some intruder went psycho

I'd bet they all stay off backpage now after this one

[maskedmelonpai]

lotta good information on these last couple pages an id like to participate in the discussion, but I don't really know nothing about this topic and don't really wanna read up on it at work. will try to remember to do that when i get home.

i was thinking some lately and I always knew this, but sorts made some associations recently: i don't know much of anything. i got liek a super small pool of knowledge and my memory is terribad. it liek my brain have mostly unformatted disk space, but i still use it for storage.

i reason on a small scale it look something liek my desk, but the way I imagine it is liek i gotta little basket i stand in at the top of a radio tower, so it liek a crow nest and when I get new information, it liek little notes or pieces of paper that appear in my hands. i read them and process them (this all in my head of course, the tower and everything) and then i just let it go (the paper) and the wind carry it off to set it somewhere on my brain bed WAY down below. i maybe can see where it go if I focus on it for a while, but almost always forget.

the neat thing is, even though I don't know where, it still their and i stumble across all kinds of information when I looking for other things :3 AND when I get super tired or generally deprived of one of the three basic needs (sleep, food, peace) i got a little vaccuum tube like they have at the bank that suck up information. it normally used for bringing up things i need, but when im tired like that it just blast me with all sorts of random stuff and some of the papers get stuck together and make interesting shapes or get wet and the ink run and then it a new thought from the old one that maybe interesting or look different and stuff.

anyway, gonna think on this more and maybe post something on it later.

[maskedmelonpai]

how bout posting this before? did you remember that? :3

did i do that? (o^^o;)

[Xaanka]

Ill bet every one of you hes going to landslide in 2020 even if we are in the middle of a great depression.

the economy is doing really good rn everyone i know with investments is making bank rn

[Xaanka]

even my communist friends who come from actual communist countries agree trump's pretty dope because they had money invested in the US stock market & they gettin rich rn

[Xaanka]

lol reminder that convicted pedophile (((anthony weiner))) used to be long-time roommates with (((john stewart))) i wonder how many young girls they molested together over the years, probably thousands

wokest tweet:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266276897305026560

[entruil]

didn't read shit in this thread... feel like I should, xaanka postin again...

sry man/friend/"Transgendered woman"? i dont even know what that means and on the forums I'm not expected to yet... it's one of the only respect I would show no matter what right?

flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatli ne...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline...f latline...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatlin e...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline...fl atline...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline ...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline...fla tline...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline. ..flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline...flat line...flatline...flatline...flatline...flatline.. .flatline...flatline...flatline...

[entruil]

yea... the problem is when they try to take away the socialist programs... the stock market is only a derivative of the federal reserve banking system anymore... even the Lunes espousing a new age kaynesian economic policy based on the last few years know the difference... it's too bad that so many submit... this is my only arguement xaanka... on that level anyways... *booze*

it's wrong to be able to save and build value in truth the way I heard it... so... ... ...

[entruil]

i dont even know what that means

good god, bleh...

anyways....

http://i.imgur.com/vFap2u2.png

Peace.

[Jarnauga]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.c7f9c2220d1a

Is there anything that is "too low" for this guy ..? that's pathetic

[Xaanka]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.c7f9c2220d1a

Is there anything that is "too low" for this guy ..? that's pathetic

lol this guy literally bases his world view on fake news yellow journalism

In a video released overnight by 'Project Veritas' founder James O'Keefe, CNN producer John Bonifield is caught on film admitting that the network's constant coverage of the Trump-Russia narrative is "mostly bullshit" and "the president is probably right to say [CNN] is witch-hunting [him]."

He also noted the story is "good for business."

"I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime," he said. "I just feel like they don’t really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."

[click for video link] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE)

[Xaanka]

i wonder if Jarnooga even knows whats happening in venezuela or if he's been letting the MSM propaganda rot his brain too hard

Venezuela is the implementation of Bernie's agenda with the demographics that Hillary and Jeb wanted. There's so much fail in one place there's no way the MSM and shills like Jarnooga could compartmentalize what's happening in their worldview so expect the events in Venezuela to largely go unreported by MSM.

[Jarnauga]

i wonder if Jarnooga even knows whats happening in venezuela or if he's been letting the MSM propaganda rot his brain too hard

Venezuela is the implementation of Bernie's agenda with the demographics that Hillary and Jeb wanted. There's so much fail in one place there's no way the MSM and shills like Jarnooga could compartmentalize what's happening in their worldview so expect the events in Venezuela to largely go unreported by MSM.

If venezuela is bernie, pinochet is trump :rolleyes:

[Jarnauga]

Oh and by the way, here's an article of today about venezuela from France's biggest newspaper

http://mobile.lemonde.fr/ameriques/video/2017/06/28/venezuela-la-cour-supreme-et-le-ministere-de-l-interieur-attaques-par-helicoptere_5152444_3222.html

Because you know, french don't have freedom of press/speech/etc and are basically hunted down by muslim refugees.. fucking msm don't even talk about it, thank god breitbart, daily mail and national enquirer are here.

[Patriam1066]

That's a good article but France does suck and your president married his ugly ass crypt keeper teacher

[Ahldagor]

i wonder if Jarnooga even knows whats happening in venezuela or if he's been letting the MSM propaganda rot his brain too hard

Venezuela is the implementation of Bernie's agenda with the demographics that Hillary and Jeb wanted. There's so much fail in one place there's no way the MSM and shills like Jarnooga could compartmentalize what's happening in their worldview so expect the events in Venezuela to largely go unreported by MSM.

Venezuela's economy is tied directly to oil tho'. It's holy shit less diverse than the US's economy, and they've driven up their tariffs in the name of nationalism and "where's muh fair global econimics" that it's not even worth it for companies to ship the materials needed for diapers. Protectionist economic policies, eh? Really wondering how effective today's helicopter attack will pan out.

[Xaanka]

the obamacare dilemma- tens of millions lose health insurance when obamacare collapses in a few years vs. a few million lose it right now

MUH FREE STUFF NOW

[Xaanka]

Oh and by the way, here's an article of today about venezuela from France's biggest newspaper

http://mobile.lemonde.fr/ameriques/video/2017/06/28/venezuela-la-cour-supreme-et-le-ministere-de-l-interieur-attaques-par-helicoptere_5152444_3222.html

Because you know, french don't have freedom of press/speech/etc and are basically hunted down by muslim refugees.. fucking msm don't even talk about it, thank god breitbart, daily mail and national enquirer are here.

maybe google translate fucked up or something but that article is 3 sentences long, that's like the definition of brushing off the issue and pretending it doesn't exist

is there something i'm missing? maybe google translate made the "expand" button disappear?

also lol that jarnooga thinks anyone reads breitbart

[Xaanka]

important post quoting for new page since our resident conspiracy theorists seem to be ignoring it

lol this guy literally bases his world view on fake news yellow journalism

In a video released overnight by 'Project Veritas' founder James O'Keefe, CNN producer John Bonifield is caught on film admitting that the network's constant coverage of the Trump-Russia narrative is "mostly bullshit" and "the president is probably right to say [CNN] is witch-hunting [him]."

He also noted the story is "good for business."

"I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime," he said. "I just feel like they don’t really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."

[click for video link] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE)

[Ahldagor]

the obamacare dilemma- tens of millions lose health insurance when obamacare collapses in a few years vs. a few million lose it right now

MUH FREE STUFF NOW

It's not free because of the individual mandate, at the moment. I'm waiting for the introduction of language into the GOP's bill that will allow insurers to financially penalize anyone who has not had continuous health insurance coverage. Either way will still create artificial demand for health care and drive up costs to consumers.

[Xaanka]

It's not free because of the individual mandate, at the moment. I'm waiting for the introduction of language into the GOP's bill that will allow insurers to financially penalize anyone who has not had continuous health insurance coverage. Either way will still create artificial demand for health care and drive up costs to consumers.

i don't understand normies to understand how big pharma works but most of the driven up costs of healthcare really come from medical research (USA companies fund basically all medical research on the planet) and malpractice suits ('murica) -- outside of the general fuckery that is hospitals

like ok cool we could distribute patient care better with socialized medicine than a capitalistic system. what nobody considers is how none of these socialized medicine countries can sustain the level of medical research the USA provides for them, let alone really any without injected money from our capitalistic system.

so basically we could do a bit better providing medicine already available under a socialized system, but then the government essentially owns your body & health and most medical research halts. that AIDS cure that's like 6 years off from the market? yeah that wouldn't be happening if we were Sweden. remember that shrek-eli dude who bought a wu tang album and went viral because liberals hated him so much for driving up the cost of toxoplasmosis medicine? yeah he's like the only person on the planet developing gen 2 medicines for rare diseases that aren't neurotoxic like current 1910's era hackjob era medicines currently used.

[Xaanka]

people also like to ignore that socialized systems in countries like sweden or whatever would collapse if they had to start thinking about anything beyond providing patient care because they're effectively financially subsidized by the US medical industry.

[Xaanka]

seems like this event never got much discussion here either hm wonder why

https://archive.fo/yhBn5

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and his wife, Jane Sanders have hired prominent defense attorneys amid an FBI investigation into a loan Jane Sanders obtained to expand Burlington College while she was its president, CBS News confirms.

Politico Magazine first reported the Sanders had hired lawyers to defend them in the probe. Sanders' top adviser Jeff Weaver told CBS News the couple has sought legal protection over federal agents' allegations from a January 2016 complaint accusing then-President of Burlington College, Ms. Sanders, of distorting donor levels in a 2010 loan application for $10 million from People's United Bank to purchase 33 acres of land for the institution.

According to Politico, prosecutors might also be looking into allegations that Sen. Sanders' office inappropriately urged the bank to approve the loan.

Burlington attorney and Sanders supporter Rich Cassidy has reportedly been hired to represent Sen. Sanders. And high-profile Washington defense attorney Larry Robbins, who counseled Libby "Scooter" Robbins, former Chief of Staff for the Vice President, is protecting Jane Sanders.

Ms. Sanders' push for the liberal arts college's costly land acquisition was cited in a press release by the college when it shut down in 2016.

Brady Toensing of Burlington, the man responsible for the claims filed to the U.S. attorney for Vermont, was a chairman for the Trump campaign in his state.

"I filed a request for an investigation in January 2016 and an investigation appears to have been started right away," he said in an email to CBS News. "It was started under President Obama, his Attorney General, and his U.S. Attorney, all of whom are Democrats."
"My only hope is for a fair, impartial, and thorough investigation," Toensing added.

Weaver told CBS News that Toensing's claim that Sen. Sanders used his influence to lobby for the loan is a "political charge" that is "baseless" and "false."

And as for the claim that Ms. Sanders manipulated the loan application, Weaver said, "The loan was approved by the financial board at the college."

Sen. Sanders, formerly mayor of Burlington, Vermont's largest city, regards the claims as a political game levied against him after his run for president in the 2016 primary election, a platform which has transformed the small-state senator into an influential voice in American liberal politics.

[Xaanka]

http://archive.is/Xg5Dp

CNN said Monday that three journalists, including the executive editor in charge of a new investigative unit, have resigned after the publication of a Russia-related article that was retracted.
Thomas Frank, who wrote the story in question; Eric Lichtblau, an editor in the unit; and Lex Haris, who oversaw the unit, have all left CNN.
"In the aftermath of the retraction of a story published on CNN.com, CNN has accepted the resignations of the employees involved in the story's publication," a spokesman said Monday evening.
An internal investigation by CNN management found that some standard editorial processes were not followed when the article was published, people briefed on the results of the investigation said.
The story, which reported that Congress was investigating a "Russian investment fund with ties to Trump officials," cited a single anonymous source.

[Xaanka]

hm yes out logic is perfectly rational and sound this is why we must target infants and children (same mental capacity as democrat voters) with our political message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEG9HiPo1U

http://www.dailywire.com/news/18034/new-low-cnn-uses-sesame-streets-elmo-attack-trumps-john-nolte

Popular “Sesame Street” character Elmo sympathized with refugee kids in an interview Monday with CNN, remarking that they are just like kids in America.

Elmo was part of a panel including CNN reporter Clarissa Ward, Sherrie Westin from Sesame Workshop, and David Miliband from the International Rescue Committee.

“Did you find that the Syrian little girls and little boys were a lot like your friends here in America?” Ward asked Elmo.

“Yeah, they really were,” said the “Sesame Street” character. “It was very interesting because they like to play and learn just like Elmo and all of his friends at Sesame Street.”

hm, yes, these syrian "children" are just like the other kids! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3422000/Just-old-think-migrant-children-Alarming-pictures-shed-light-growing-scandal-amid-asylum-crisis.html

[Pokesan]

Oh and by the way, here's an article of today about venezuela from France's biggest newspaper

http://mobile.lemonde.fr/ameriques/video/2017/06/28/venezuela-la-cour-supreme-et-le-ministere-de-l-interieur-attaques-par-helicoptere_5152444_3222.html

Because you know, french don't have freedom of press/speech/etc and are basically hunted down by muslim refugees.. fucking msm don't even talk about it, thank god breitbart, daily mail and national enquirer are here.

https://i.imgur.com/RuxUzuy.jpg

[Jarnauga]

Trump gonna be at 14th of july parade in paris

Hope he gets some eggs thrown at him :rolleyes:

[Xaanka]

Trump gonna be at 14th of july parade in paris

Hope he gets some eggs thrown at him :rolleyes:

hey dude so was that Venezuela article supposed to be longer than 3 sentences?

[Jarnauga]

maybe google translate fucked up or something but that article is 3 sentences long, that's like the definition of brushing off the issue and pretending it doesn't exist

is there something i'm missing? maybe google translate made the "expand" button disappear?

also lol that jarnooga thinks anyone reads breitbart

You understand that a french newspaper spends a lot more energy on french events then european matters, then basically world stuff that affects french, then the rest..?

That seems like basic logic to me.

That said it took me 30 seconds to find more in depth stuff, like

http://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/monde/venezuela/l-article-a-lire-pour-comprendre-la-crise-qui-dechire-le-venezuela_2152465.html#xtref=https://www.google.fr/

https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/editos-analyses/030405312544-la-descente-aux-enfers-du-venezuela-2097276.php

http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2016/12/LAMBERT/56923

https://www.franceculture.fr/politique/comprendre-la-crise-au-venezuela-en-dix-dates

http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/10/27/crise-au-venezuela-si-vous-avez-rate-le-debut_1524722

https://www.marianne.net/monde/venezuela-l-eldorado-de-melenchon-en-pleine-crise

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2017/04/25/01003-20170425ARTFIG00057-le-venezuela-s-enfonce-dans-la-crise.php

Suit yourself ;)

[Jarnauga]

That's a good article but France does suck and your president married his ugly ass crypt keeper teacher

You can do better, i believe in you

[Ahldagor]

i don't understand normies to understand how big pharma works but most of the driven up costs of healthcare really come from medical research (USA companies fund basically all medical research on the planet) and malpractice suits ('murica) -- outside of the general fuckery that is hospitals

like ok cool we could distribute patient care better with socialized medicine than a capitalistic system. what nobody considers is how none of these socialized medicine countries can sustain the level of medical research the USA provides for them, let alone really any without injected money from our capitalistic system.

so basically we could do a bit better providing medicine already available under a socialized system, but then the government essentially owns your body & health and most medical research halts. that AIDS cure that's like 6 years off from the market? yeah that wouldn't be happening if we were Sweden. remember that shrek-eli dude who bought a wu tang album and went viral because liberals hated him so much for driving up the cost of toxoplasmosis medicine? yeah he's like the only person on the planet developing gen 2 medicines for rare diseases that aren't neurotoxic like current 1910's era hackjob era medicines currently used.

Most foreign research is in collaboration with US companies, luckily, and a lot of those projects are research on major diseases like cancer, alzheimers, antibiotics, or what stem cells can do for regenerative medicine. Dick pills and new opiates aren't considered worth while to a lot of firms, but they have huge market potential for firms in the USA; it's where that research money gets spent is the differing factor. What baffles me is that people have and perpetuate a notion that medical science is somehow better and different in the USA than else where which is more an indicator that marketing and PR methods work.

[Xaanka]

You understand that a french newspaper spends a lot more energy on french events then european matters, then basically world stuff that affects french, then the rest..?

That seems like basic logic to me.

That said it took me 30 seconds to find more in depth stuff, like

http://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/monde/venezuela/l-article-a-lire-pour-comprendre-la-crise-qui-dechire-le-venezuela_2152465.html#xtref=https://www.google.fr/

https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/editos-analyses/030405312544-la-descente-aux-enfers-du-venezuela-2097276.php

http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2016/12/LAMBERT/56923

https://www.franceculture.fr/politique/comprendre-la-crise-au-venezuela-en-dix-dates

http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/10/27/crise-au-venezuela-si-vous-avez-rate-le-debut_1524722

https://www.marianne.net/monde/venezuela-l-eldorado-de-melenchon-en-pleine-crise

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2017/04/25/01003-20170425ARTFIG00057-le-venezuela-s-enfonce-dans-la-crise.php

Suit yourself ;)

didnt read its probably all commie shit

[Hitmonkey]

It's not free because of the individual mandate, at the moment. I'm waiting for the introduction of language into the GOP's bill that will allow insurers to financially penalize anyone who has not had continuous health insurance coverage. Either way will still create artificial demand for health care and drive up costs to consumers.

It's in and pretty horrific. Miss a payment and have a lapse in coverage= wait 6 months to qualify again and they can charge you 30% more in premiums for a year.

even my communist friends who come from actual communist countries agree trump's pretty dope because they had money invested in the US stock market & they gettin rich rn
Market was already going up and it's currently down you fucking child living off Mommy and Daddy in a basement somewhere. In some tiny euro country with the economy of one of our small states.

[Xaanka]

Most foreign research is in collaboration with US companies, luckily, and a lot of those projects are research on major diseases like cancer, alzheimers, antibiotics, or what stem cells can do for regenerative medicine. Dick pills and new opiates aren't considered worth while to a lot of firms, but they have huge market potential for firms in the USA; it's where that research money gets spent is the differing factor. What baffles me is that people have and perpetuate a notion that medical science is somehow better and different in the USA than else where which is more an indicator that marketing and PR methods work.

you're proving my point where do you think the financing and marketability comes from :confused: this is largely done to circumvent us medical research laws and regulations why do you think Kazakhstan's medical industry/whole economy exists?

[Xaanka]

we out chea boiiiiiiii jarnooga click this link https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/879786661491728385

[Pokesan]

i don't understand normies to understand how big pharma works but most of the driven up costs of healthcare really come from medical research (USA companies fund basically all medical research on the planet) and malpractice suits ('murica) -- outside of the general fuckery that is hospitals

like ok cool we could distribute patient care better with socialized medicine than a capitalistic system. what nobody considers is how none of these socialized medicine countries can sustain the level of medical research the USA provides for them, let alone really any without injected money from our capitalistic system.

so basically we could do a bit better providing medicine already available under a socialized system, but then the government essentially owns your body & health and most medical research halts. that AIDS cure that's like 6 years off from the market? yeah that wouldn't be happening if we were Sweden. remember that shrek-eli dude who bought a wu tang album and went viral because liberals hated him so much for driving up the cost of toxoplasmosis medicine? yeah he's like the only person on the planet developing gen 2 medicines for rare diseases that aren't neurotoxic like current 1910's era hackjob era medicines currently used.

minus the shkreli bit(who cares nerd), i like this post. really hope it's true.

makes me wanna go oo rah liberate syria.

[Ahldagor]

you're proving my point where do you think the financing and marketability comes from :confused: this is largely done to circumvent us medical research laws and regulations why do you think Kazakhstan's medical industry/whole economy exists?

Wasn't refuting, obviously, but wasn't gonna let that dick pill research fall to the wayside as a critique of US medical research which is based on profit potential and not care.

[Ahldagor]

It's in and pretty horrific. Miss a payment and have a lapse in coverage= wait 6 months to qualify again and they can charge you 30% more in premiums for a year.


Damn. Welp the mandate is still in y'all, so the GOP is as feckless as the dems on this one. Who's surprised?

[Ahldagor]

Game gotta recognize game Xaanka. Gotta give credit for the dunks you receive as well as the ones you give.

Still not much more on he helicopter attack in Venezuela.

[Rader]

Damn. Welp the mandate is still in y'all, so the GOP is as feckless as the dems on this one. Who's surprised?

Not surprised in the least. The GOP is libturd lite.

[Xaanka]

what are you on about venezuela is/was a socialist paradise

(NEW YORK) -- Project Veritas' American Pravda: CNN continues today with a video of left-leaning political commentator Van Jones caught on camera plainly stating that "the Russia thing is just a big nothing burger." (http://breaking.projectveritas.com/cnnpart2.html)

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/MbvoLOl.png?1

[mickmoranis]

I love when spicer of the new white house coreispondent whatever her name is, call out the media for being shity, and then they break down and start crying back at them and are like, "how can you say this, how can you slap, how can you say these things, we are not what you say we are GOOD and KIND and how dare you!"

its like god damn i wish it was someone else calling out the media, but at least someone is calling them out for being shity, how in the fuck can they sit there and think we're wrong?! Most people IN the media agree and are ashamed, theyre just so caught up stupid social partisan politics that they cant even realize that this person theyre arguing with, they AGREE with.

Bunch of turd burgers, not empty ones, if u ask me.

[maskedmelonpai]

mick, i liek you a lot and you posts are fun to read and make me laugh ^^ sometime they confuse me though :c

here, i gonna share these with you,



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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

use as many as you need. there a lot more if you need them :3

[Ahldagor]

I love when spicer of the new white house coreispondent whatever her name is, call out the media for being shity, and then they break down and start crying back at them and are like, "how can you say this, how can you slap, how can you say these things, we are not what you say we are GOOD and KIND and how dare you!"

its like god damn i wish it was someone else calling out the media, but at least someone is calling them out for being shity, how in the fuck can they sit there and think we're wrong?! Most people IN the media agree and are ashamed, theyre just so caught up stupid social partisan politics that they cant even realize that this person theyre arguing with, they AGREE with.

Bunch of turd burgers, not empty ones, if u ask me.

Money trumps journalistic integrity. Gotta get them eyeballs and clicks for ad revenue.

[Ahldagor]

what are you on about venezuela is/was a socialist paradise

(NEW YORK) -- Project Veritas' American Pravda: CNN continues today with a video of left-leaning political commentator Van Jones caught on camera plainly stating that "the Russia thing is just a big nothing burger." (http://breaking.projectveritas.com/cnnpart2.html)

A rogue cop stole a helicopter and when full on GTA by dropping grenades onto the supreme court building in Caracas. A rebel group of soldiers and police has been forming and this was their first action due to the protectionist policies of Maduro's government not allowing basic goods to come into the country coupled with oil being their sole source of income, and that whole food shortage thing. Interesting story is interesting. Socialist paradise working as intended, I guess.

I don't get why you want to generate ad revenue for CNN tho'. Why is that?

[Pokesan]

i'd like it a lot if "nothingburger" vanished from the american lexicon immediately

[maskedmelonpai]

it only just now enter my lexicon. that what that image spose to mean? i stared at it a while and thought maybe it come to me later.

[AzzarTheGod]

i'd like it a lot if "nothingburger" vanished from the american lexicon immediately

Smiled hard @ "left-leaning commentator" as if it's the second incarnation of Barrack just because he's a black man...it's fucking Van Jones a full blown communist party member who only renounced the party to make money $$$. Left leaning lol

Is Sean Hannity right leaning? Like George Bush or Reagan?

[Hitmonkey]

Damn. Welp the mandate is still in y'all, so the GOP is as feckless as the dems on this one. Who's surprised?

Not surprised in the least. The GOP is libturd lite.

It should be in, and you two are against it because of a simple lack of understanding about how insurance works.

Forcing everyone to carry medical insurance lowers the unpaid medical costs of Hospital's, State Medicaid and insurance companies that have too foot the bill which in turn they charge more in taxes and premiums to cover that cost.

The extra cost in taxes for Obamacare doesn't hit anybody that comes to these boards. You and everyone is going to be paying more when ObamaCare is a replaced and those 22 million people lose insurance because they can no longer afford it and they go back to just going to the emergency room and not paying their bills

[AzzarTheGod]

im eatin hella nothingburgers lately dropped 8 apparent lbs already. i know that's within standard deviation blah blah but i've moved 2 (two) belt holes in 10 days.

missed u kid wb

[skarlorn]

i think it's a new warning style. they also did it to me but a little shorter lived. I consider myself warned : )

[skarlorn]

holy FUCK i can't believe i actually put 2 posts on page 1 of this thread.

Just letting you all know that I forgot all about it and didn't read anything
see you in another 6 months.

end of post,

[mickmoranis]

the only people that will be left after the rapture have posted in this thread, so grats.

[mickmoranis]

i have a feeling for the foreseeable future were going to have high premiums democrats love and the low quality of care republicans want.

[nilzark]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=242&pictureid=1102

[Patriam1066]

I'm shocked McConnell failed to pass a bill. He usually gets shit done, like wrecking merrick garland and obstructing obama for 8 years

I think he looks like a turtle but I have to admit, I'm impressed that Kentucky has so much influence in America. Also, I like bourbon

[Rader]

It should be in, and you two are against it because of a simple lack of understanding about how insurance works.

Forcing everyone to carry medical insurance lowers the unpaid medical costs of Hospital's, State Medicaid and insurance companies that have too foot the bill which in turn they charge more in taxes and premiums to cover that cost.

The extra cost in taxes for Obamacare doesn't hit anybody that comes to these boards. You and everyone is going to be paying more when ObamaCare is a replaced and those 22 million people lose insurance because they can no longer afford it and they go back to just going to the emergency room and not paying their bills

Mandated insurance is communist, so of course you are in favor of it, you brainless libturd shill. Until people are willing to ask their physicians/insurance companies the hard questions and shop for the best deal, Big Pharma, insurance companies, and the politicians who enable them will continue to line their pockets with easy money. THAT is how insurance/mandates work, fuckface.

[Rader]

i want a gun pointed at my head and to be told me to buy a product from a private company i voted for that

I can point my gun at you if you like.

[AzzarTheGod]

i don't think i deserve that. i ate like 1800 calories today =/

same tbh I'm trying to slim down n limber up for summer all this ase I've been planking is really helping. Xaanka's been looking good

[AenorVZ]

This one's for you, treasonweasels: https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/29/exclusive-reince-wanted-to-run-nato-sigint-on-trumps-treasonweasels/

[AzzarTheGod]

This one's for you, treasonweasels: https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/29/exclusive-reince-wanted-to-run-nato-sigint-on-trumps-treasonweasels/

excerpt from another post on that blog

As I reported exclusively at Patribotics, this tape was discussed with Sergei Kislyak by Trump, Manafort, Page and Epshteyn. As I further reported, Sergei Kislyak’s phone was ‘hot miked’ through an SS7 exploit by a Five Eyes nation for a portion of last year. By request, I am withholding the nation and the amount of time that Kislyak’s phone was recording all those with whom he came in contact*. I will report on exactly how each nation holds this intelligence when I come to Carter Page.

with a name like patribotics with all these conspiracy theories I've gotta say this isn't even far left, its just anti-Trump and a hit site. every article is a few facts mixed with 90% anonymous theories with "juicy CIA details". Its just not possible to have that much information leaking.

[AzzarTheGod]

Sources say that the USIC has indeed long been playing a game of chess with Mr. Putin. Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham confirmed Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, these sources say, deliberately in order to trap both Trump and Sessions. Both men were well aware of the “conflicts” Sessions had with Russia, and Senator McCain, who gave to US intelligence a much fuller version of the Steele Dossier, in particular, knew some of the reported signals intelligence on meetings Sessions had had with pro-Russian lobbyists. By confirming Sessions as Attorney General they removed him from the Russia inquiry, and this was deliberate.

Come on now.

Sessions confirmation as AG was a move by pro-Russian lobbyists to avoid Sessions from being involved in the Russia inquiry??? Really? Lots of accusations without anything to back them up.

This is so much less credible than investigating false hoax shootings like Sandy Hook it isn't even funny. This blog makes Alex Jones look sane.

[AzzarTheGod]

so its a whistleblower site after some investigation and its whole reason for existing is to collect leaks.

the problem is its equally as unverified as Alex Jones InfoWars claims.


DAUGHTERGATE: Ivanka Trump Scrubbed From Trump Poker Shell Companies
EXCLUSIVE: Russian Ambassador Kislyak’s Phone Hacked by Five Eyes
EXCLUSIVE: Director Comey Legally Taped Calls, Meetings With Trump
Paul Ryan Taped With Russian Ambassador On GOP Money Laundering
Comey Day: ‘Meticulously Executed’ Testimony Was Counterintelligence Plan

They have an angle, as seen here they attack the entire Trump family even his daughter. What is to prevent them from making up sources and versions of events whos only purpose is stoke anti-Trump sentiment.

It seems if anyone were to do that, it would be this blog.

Sandy Hook never occuring holds far more weight, factually, than these posts I've read on patriobotics. I am not being facetious here.

That is the measuring stick I am using because it is the most appropriate measuring stick when examining conspiracy style news blogs and websites.

[Ahldagor]

It should be in, and you two are against it because of a simple lack of understanding about how insurance works.

Forcing everyone to carry medical insurance lowers the unpaid medical costs of Hospital's, State Medicaid and insurance companies that have too foot the bill which in turn they charge more in taxes and premiums to cover that cost.

The extra cost in taxes for Obamacare doesn't hit anybody that comes to these boards. You and everyone is going to be paying more when ObamaCare is a replaced and those 22 million people lose insurance because they can no longer afford it and they go back to just going to the emergency room and not paying their bills

What of the artificial demand that mandates create?

[Pokesan]

wasn't comey asked 'but her emails' about 50 times? THAT IS NOT VERY METICULOUS

[loramin]

Mandated insurance is communist

You know what else is "communist"? Public parks. Police forces. Publicly maintained roads. Firemen (and firewomen). National defense. Electricity. Clean running water (except in Flint). Libraries.

People love to critique anything the government does that they don't like as "communist", but the reality is that every government is partly communist and partly capitalist: it's just a question of the exact ratio.

Furthermore, everything has gotten more communist over time. Do you think there was an inter-state highway system in Abraham Lincoln's time, or public electricity in Washington's? Nope, those are things that used to be handled 100% privately, and now our government provides them for us (or at least heavily regulates and controls them, in the case of some utilities).

So basically our country (and the world) is getting more communist over time ... and I'd argue that's a good thing. Bring on universal basic income!

[Xaanka]

You know what else is "communist"? Public parks. Police forces. Publicly maintained roads. Firemen (and firewomen). National defense. Electricity. Clean running water (except in Flint). Libraries.

People love to critique anything the government does that they don't like as "communist", but the reality is that every government is partly communist and partly capitalist: it's just a question of the exact ratio.

Furthermore, everything has gotten more communist over time. Do you think there was an inter-state highway system in Abraham Lincoln's time, or public electricity in Washington's? Nope, those are things that used to be handled 100% privately, and now our government provides them for us (or at least heavily regulates and controls them, in the case of some utilities).

So basically our country (and the world) is getting more communist over time ... and I'd argue that's a good thing. Bring on universal basic income!

i love this weird fantasy that the private sector can't handle all these things. lol anyone remember that city in texas that fired their government police force and hired private police and their crime dropped to nothing right away? hmm guess that's what happens when you can just fire them if they're not doing their jobs right.

of course this baby brain goober wants universal basic income lmao talk about a useful idiot.

parks? i do volunteer forestry. all of that shit in my ultra liberal state is maintained by.... volunteers. who actually rough clears out the trees and shit? private contractors.

clean water? you know how many cities are worse than flint but never got politicized right? hm weird they're all long term run by democrats what a mystery there is to unfold here.

[entruil]

I think it's telling, the state of our roads/grid/currency.

just another excuse to pilfer trillions of more dollars, like healthcare.

ironically(?), basic income would be more efficient and cost less.

[Rader]

I think it's telling, the state of our roads/grid/currency.

just another excuse to pilfer trillions of more dollars, like healthcare.

ironically(?), basic income would be more efficient and cost less.

Why don't you man up and just admit you are a lazy assed useless excuse of a human who wants to sponge off the hard work of others? Why this nonsense about how more welfare will somehow make us "more efficient".

[mickmoranis]

This one's for you, treasonweasels: https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/29/exclusive-reince-wanted-to-run-nato-sigint-on-trumps-treasonweasels/

why is it whenever i see links from these woke websites I can barely if not at all, read the headline?

[entruil]

Why don't you man up and just admit you are a lazy assed useless excuse of a human who wants to sponge off the hard work of others? Why this nonsense about how more welfare will somehow make us "more efficient".

lmao... clearly you misunderstood...

I am not in support of a basic income, just pointing out that it would be cheaper to do that than all of the other govt subsidy programs for the poor and it would eliminate a lot of bureaucracy overhead and red tape... additionally it would push people to a more community/family based support system with more personal responsibility... (it's still bullshit though and another avenue for theft of the fruits of your labor and maybe an even heavier reliability on Keynesian economic policy ) I see irony in this.

Additionally, our road system/grid/currency is massively unkempt/expensive/ruined/vulnerable thanks to govt mismanagement and overstepping it's constitutional bounds.

[mickmoranis]

im so against basic income I think that poor idiots with no brains killing me and my family over petty crime is what makes america great.

[dafier]

ACA is one of the terrible things that POS former POTUS did. He also let thousands of felons go free. Let a former army tranny out of prison after betraying the US.

And libs still love deep throating him. That's your 50% America right there. All praise stupidity! I mean Libertarian views!

[mickmoranis]

im sure glad weve switched our targets from the 1% to 49.5% vs 49.5%

[dafier]

im sure glad weve switched our targets from the 1% to 49.5% vs 49.5%

Well.....

You could put on a tin foil hat and say the election counts are all corrupt, but ....you know, the truth is the truth. Of the people who have voted for at least the last 20 years, it's been fairly close with the exception of the POS I spoke of. He won by a decent margin both times.

Hence why we have a shitty relationship with the world and double debt and ...I'll just stop. Nothing good comes out of anything when the wool is pulled over your eyes, AND YOU except it. :)

[mickmoranis]

you dont have to convince me that obama was a douchebag and that the average american on BOTH sides of the political isle is a stupid moran that claps for whatever the largest group they remotly identify with on a left and right leaning basis, but.. if you dont like the aca and think its going to get lower premiums and more coverage in the next 8 years, ur nuckn futs.

[Patriam1066]

"Political isle"

[Patriam1066]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=242&pictureid=1102

Lol

[entruil]

RP on Fox Buisness a week or so ago (https://youtu.be/nkWD_K6-2UM?t=53)

this is from an article he wrote...


The healthcare debate is dominated by emotional rhetoric about how government-run healthcare is necessary to protect the vulnerable. For example, in May, Jimmy Kimmel Live host Jimmy Kimmel delivered a touching monologue about his newborn son’s open-heart surgery. Mr. Kimmel ended his monologue with a plea to retain Obamacare so all children can obtain life-saving treatment. After the monologue became a national sensation, many suggested that any Obamacare replacement plan be judged by a "Jimmy Kimmel test.”
Every decent human being supports a healthcare system that ensures children have access to medical care. However, this does not mean every decent person should support government-run healthcare. In fact decent people should oppose all forms of nationalized medicine.

Government intervention in healthcare distorts the marketplace with mandates, subsidies, and price controls. As is the case with any goods or services, price controls in healthcare result in shortages and even price increases as providers look for ways to offset their losses caused by the controls. This is why many Americans have seen their health insurance premiums skyrocket under Obamacare.

Government-run healthcare can be deadly. Anyone who doubts this should consider the case of Laura Hillier, an 18 year-old Canadian who passed away from leukemia while on a government medical treatment wait list. This is one of many horror stories from Canada, and other countries with nationalized healthcare, of individuals who died while waiting for their turn to receive medical treatment.

One need not look to Canada to find casualties of government intervention in healthcare. In 2013 Sarah Murnaghan, a ten-year-old cystic fibrosis patient, almost died because of federal rules forbidding children her age from receiving organ transplants. Public outcry eventually forced the government to allow Sarah to receive the transplant, but how many Sarahs have died because of government organ transplant rules?

The Jimmy Kimmel test is a valid way to evaluate healthcare proposals. However, there should also be a Laura Hillier or Sarah Murnaghan test forbidding adoption of a new healthcare system that increases healthcare costs, creates healthcare shortages, or allows government to deny anyone access to healthcare.

The free market meets all these tests. In a free market, doctors voluntarily donate their time to help those in need, while private charities and churches fund charity hospitals and clinics. Such a system flourished in the days before Medicaid and Medicare, and would quickly return if the welfare state is eliminated.

[AenorVZ]

anonymous theories with "juicy CIA details". Its just not possible to have that much information leaking.

What if you were a former member of British parliment who worked for and is followed by Ruppert Murdoch, recently did an op ed in the NY Times, recently appeared as a guest on Real Time and were married to the manager of Metallica? Do you think that person talks to spooks?

[AenorVZ]

Sessions confirmation as AG was a move by pro-Russian lobbyists to avoid Sessions from being involved in the Russia inquiry???

Reading comprehension? Sessions was confirmed by pro-America PATRIOTS who knew he would have to recuse himself from the Russia investigation and thus wouldn't be in a position to interfere with it.

They have an angle, as seen here they attack the entire Trump family even his daughter.

The entire Trump family is about to be brought up on charges, so, yeah. Patriots denouce traitors wherever they find them.

What is to prevent them from making up sources and versions of events whos only purpose is stoke anti-Trump sentiment.

If it's that easy, why hasn't the pro-Trump media taken her down? She was profiled in the Guardian recently. Here's a takedown piece on her from Buzzfeed that's just as light on substance as your critiques:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/menschs-list?utm_term=.mav4zLVQXA#.mrjO5jox0n

[AzzarTheGod]

What if you were a former member of British parliment who worked for and is followed by Ruppert Murdoch, recently did an op ed in the NY Times, recently appeared as a guest on Real Time and were married to the manager of Metallica? Do you think that person talks to spooks?

Its possible and I suppose very highly likely.

I'd probably need to see some development in the investigation (not a CNN development lets say) to really start buying into this reality. I'm far from in the bag for Trump, for the record, and I have criticized pretty much every policy stance he has taken since election day happened. The Russian collusion interests me, but I'd think you can understand why its a hard sell right now. Yes Manafort is a legitimate foreign agent. Yes there is a lot of smoke. But this mass collusion with Russian intelligence would require far more creative dot-connection, than say, the Clinton Foundation's pay to play. If I saw some equal justice under the law, I'd be far more open to this.




If it's that easy, why hasn't the pro-Trump media taken her down? She was profiled in the Guardian recently. Here's a takedown piece on her from Buzzfeed that's just as light on substance as your critiques:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/menschs-list?utm_term=.mav4zLVQXA#.mrjO5jox0n

Well, I'll admit I'm intrigued at the very least. Mueller is on it right now. Its ultimately wait-and-see.

[Rader]

im so against basic income I think that poor idiots with no brains killing me and my family over petty crime is what makes america great.

Crime was much lower BEFORE all the libturd welfare programs, so what the F makes you think basic income would lower crime?

[Pokesan]

Crime was much lower BEFORE all the libturd welfare programs, so what the F makes you think basic income would lower crime?

Banditry peaked in 1524 and has decreased every year since. I credit the decline to more affordable tea prices in the Commonwealth.

[AzzarTheGod]

Banditry peaked in 1524 and has decreased every year since. I credit the decline to more affordable tea prices in the Commonwealth.

smilin hard

[mickmoranis]

Crime was much lower BEFORE all the libturd welfare programs, so what the F makes you think basic income would lower crime?

lmao

The weather was much better before people were overpopulating the world CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT THE RESULT OF HUMANS

No point in arguing over this stupid issue that dumb people argue over.

[Xaanka]

hm yes periods of high co2 atmosphere definitely didn't happen in the past as not evidenced by ice core co2 levels and giant insect fossils

[Xaanka]

we didn't even know where all the water on the planet came from or where the largest reserve of water was on our planet until what a year ago?

[Patriam1066]

Asthma increasing due to air pollution. Landfills destroying the water and soil

Oil money funding Islam which we both agree is garbage. Plz explain why global warming/climate change is relevant at all when we're discussing how to make America great again. Fuck hydrocarbons and the Arabs who sell them

[Patriam1066]

Middle East = Safavid territory Arabs die

[Pokesan]

vhemt, bitch!

[Domo]

Out of topic:

My english is not good enough to know if some of you guys are sarcastically, or if some of you are sterotype rednecks who belive to know how the world works only because they have Internet access o_O

[nilzark]

Swish?

[AzzarTheGod]

Middle East = Safavid territory

i hate insects

[AzzarTheGod]

Out of topic:

My english is not good enough to know if some of you guys are sarcastically, or if some of you are sterotype rednecks who belive to know how the world works only because they have Internet access o_O

its a mixture of American humor and some of us are playing characters I would guess.

It is easy to tell who is not playing a character as they tend to give it away very easily. Nobody is really deep undercover.

[Pokesan]

BUZZFEED SUBPOENAS FEDS ABOUT THE PISS TAPE (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/30/buzzfeed-trump-russia-dossier-subpoena-240146)

The online media outlet sent formal demands Thursday to the CIA, the FBI and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, seeking details on the distribution of an unverified intelligence dossier about Trump said to have been in the possession of Russian intelligence during last year’s presidential campaign, POLITICO has learned.

BuzzFeed is also seeking testimony from fired FBI Director James Comey, as well as former DNI James Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan, said a source familiar with the subpoenas.

BuzzFeed issued the demands for documents and testimony in connection with a libel suit the site is facing from Russian technology executive Aleksej Gubarev over BuzzFeed’s decision to publish the salacious intelligence dossier in its entirety in January.

The subpoenas seek information about the existence and scope of the federal government’s investigation into the dossier, initially compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. The requests for documents say the information could bolster BuzzFeed’s claim that publication of the document was protected by the fair report privilege, which can immunize reports based on official government records.

tl;dr they got sued and are using discovery to make the world a more magical place

http://i.imgur.com/IjxyxsR.gif

[mickmoranis]

TBH if trump wanted to round up liberals and stuff and put them in cages, id join his army.

Yall fuckn suck and wont shutup about bullshit.

To bad the bullshit liberals are concerned with these days is just bullshit, becuse trump is actually just a really great president whom they dont like his face and he'd never do that.

I wish they were right, about SOMETHING, anything, becuse then id know we were in for real change.

But they are wrong about everything and we will see no change and trump will win in 2020 and I will fucking love it but at the same time be forced to listen to hippies that cant get jobs talk about how the world would be a better place if they were just allowed to be unemployed.

[AzzarTheGod]

TBH if trump wanted to round up liberals and stuff and put them in cages, id join his army.

Yall fuckn suck and wont shutup about bullshit.

To bad the bullshit liberals are concerned with these days is just bullshit, becuse trump is actually just a really great president whom they dont like his face and he'd never do that.

I wish they were right, about SOMETHING, anything, becuse then id know we were in for real change.

But they are wrong about everything and we will see no change and trump will win in 2020 and I will fucking love it but at the same time be forced to listen to hippies that cant get jobs talk about how the world would be a better place if they were just allowed to be unemployed.


the woke is 4 real today. libbos are on a crash course for trump 2020 landslide

Only Barrack could defeat him in 2020.

[mickmoranis]

I doubt even he could. Without a complete outsider theyre screwed.

Bernie will be WAY to old, no fucking way. We'll also be so sick and tired about hearing from him and everyone else thats around today that they just wont have a shot.

They got nothing, nobody.

Their best bet is someone walks in from another dimension. Other than that, its gonna be trump all the way.

[skarlorn]

Cringe

[mickmoranis]

the truth hurts

[mickmoranis]

at this point I am willing to say what the left is doing is an act of treason and I wouldnt mind using our military to make them and the press stop it with this fucking joke.

[Pokesan]

redpill more toxic than vaccine

[skarlorn]

Lots of anger, violence. Cringing for u mad boys.

[AzzarTheGod]

I doubt even he could. Without a complete outsider theyre screwed.

Bernie will be WAY to old, no fucking way. We'll also be so sick and tired about hearing from him and everyone else thats around today that they just wont have a shot.

They got nothing, nobody.

Their best bet is someone walks in from another dimension. Other than that, its gonna be trump all the way.

For the record Barrack walked in from another dimension. He ran for president at the behest of Oprah.

He was an unknown and a nobody junior Senator. A candidate will emerge but will the corrupt DNC allow it is the question?

Wasserman-Schultz isn't gone just because she stepped down. That's the difference between the GOP and Dems. Reince Priebus was willing to let Trump play ball and smash Jeb Bush into pieces with 200+ million behind him.

The DNC has some Illuminati problems they need to confront. You didn't even let Bernie run... cringing hard @ people who say the GOP doesn't play ball.

They play ball and they play fair.

[skarlorn]

A candidate will emerge but will the corrupt DNC allow it is the question?


You didn't even let Bernie run... cringing hard @ people who say the GOP doesn't play ball.

They play ball and they play fair.

This is the truth man.

I'm not a party b!tch like a lot of the people in this country. I believe in low taxes and high personal freedom. But I always will vote for social liberty cause i'm a faggot for freedom and letting the wind blow into the bottoms of those whomst desire it. if this means i pay more taxes that's fine, i can be smarter and make more money if i need it. & whomstsoever gives me a candidate that seems like they'll actually nerf the ultra rich and keep gays safe etc is where i'll vote.

too bad the Democrats went full Francis Underwood/Clinton and torqued the yoke until that shit snapped, got bernie cucked, and then lost the election because their candidate was a hyperrich snubbite lizardfolk with two tails for tits.

now we have this orange duck fuck wig boy who has some serious problems

[Pokesan]

J, if you out there, PM me. I ain't gonna tattle, I need advice on EQ character shit

[mickmoranis]

I always voted for social liberty, if it was a tax hike? I said fuck it, yes.

I am part of the problem, the middle class white person who thought the rest of the world was smarter than it actually is.

My republican friends would say, dude these people are stupid, they are takers and lazy, and I said, thats isnane youre bitter and angry... people are good more than they are bad

WRONG

just dead wrong.

Now what I think is really funny is, democrats, as self ritious as they are, would rather fight for the fucking PRESS's name on social media, rather than fucking spend some time at a god damn food bank.

Everytime I hang with republicans, its church, family or volunteer.

Everytime I hang out with liberals its me first, gimi gimi, or lets do drugs. with a tiny minority actually volunteering for a few hours a year (but they haven't in the last few)

Its rediculoous.

Liberals really are as stupid as all those stupid people said we were.

So i bend the knee to the GOP

[skarlorn]

living in san francisco surrounded by liberal pot addicts yogis gave me PTSD flashbacks to living in texas with conservative beer addict church goers

same shit just watch the colors change nawmean

[skarlorn]

J, if you out there, PM me. I ain't gonna tattle, I need advice on EQ character shit

dang dude did he get Forums Iced again?

Full Wipe?

yike

[mickmoranis]

living in san francisco surrounded by liberal pot addicts yogis gave me PTSD flashbacks to living in texas with conservative beer addict church goers

same shit just watch the colors change nawmean

im sure its just a phase but I cant help but feel guilty for the retardation of america being at the hands of a lot of the things I thought were good.

[Patriam1066]

Jon Kasich for rational governance and tulsi gabbard to slowly extricate ourselves from foreign policy disasters. That's what we need folks, if the republicans are gonna be the populists and the democrats the interventionists we're in deep shit

It was 129 degrees in Iran today. I can't go back white people get your shit together

[Rader]

you dont have to convince me that obama was a douchebag and that the average american on BOTH sides of the political isle is a stupid moran that claps for whatever the largest group they remotly identify with on a left and right leaning basis.

True, most peeps base their politics on what will get them props from their friends. Myself, I have friends from all parts of the political spectrum, most are actually left-leaning. Doesn't stop me from using my brain and being a "small L" libertarian.

[Rader]

This is the truth man.

I'm not a party b!tch like a lot of the people in this country. I believe in low taxes and high personal freedom. But I always will vote for social liberty cause i'm a faggot for freedom and letting the wind blow into the bottoms of those whomst desire it. if this means i pay more taxes that's fine

Agreed! I would put up with high taxes and business regulations if the Dems actually stood for free speech and total social freedom on drugs, sex, gambling, you name it. But instead they double down on identity politics/reverse racism while being gutless when it comes to what consenting entities do in the privacy of their whatever. They only wave the multi-colored flag because it is an easy way to pander to a broad base of voters.

[AenorVZ]

Well, I'll admit I'm intrigued at the very least. Mueller is on it right now. Its ultimately wait-and-see.

Stay tuned. Here's the latest:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rupert-murdoch-said-have-soured-heat-street-news-corps-dying-digital-upstart-1018282

Heat Street, the online news vehicle Murdoch backed for Mensch, has folded. If you google news for Murdoch, almost everyone is saying his $12 billion bid to acquire Sky News is in trouble. This Guardian story says the deal is on track:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2017/jun/29/rupert-murdoch-sky-bid-is-now-very-likely-to-succeed

If Murdoch succeeds, he will have Mensch to thank. When News Corp's phone hacking scandal was in the headlines, Mensch, as a British parlimentarian, helped soften the language of the eventual rebuke to Murdoch and News Corp to an extent that left the door open for the Sky merger to still have a chance. Is Murdoch really closing Heat Street because of Mensch's Russia "conspiracy theories"? Or is she doing exactly what her boss wants?

[nilzark]

Jon Kasich for rational governance and tulsi gabbard to slowly extricate ourselves from foreign policy disasters. That's what we need folks, if the republicans are gonna be the populists and the democrats the interventionists we're in deep shit

It was 129 degrees in Iran today. I can't go back white people get your shit together

If ur from Iran - you are white - only non whites are far east asians and sub saharan africans; facial structure and melanin and shit

*disclaimer, I am not a racial expert

[Xaanka]

is mickmoranis getting... woke?
hey i'm a social liberal too, this was me a couple years ago. its sad because i believe in a lot of the things the left "should" stand for on a strong genuine level, but i have to vote against them because they're inept/corrupt and i don't want to reward that. many trump voters hate the GOP and i was one of them. the best thing that can happen to the democratic party is it fails, fractures, and reforms or splits into new parties. right now the neoconservative/neoliberal democratic old guard is running the show and they're incredibly out of touch with the bulk of the party and most americans. even if they find another obama from out of nowhere, they have no platform anymore and they don't seem very poised to change that. its starting to happen.

[mickmoranis]

Agreed! I would put up with high taxes and business regulations if the Dems actually stood for free speech and total social freedom on drugs, sex, gambling, you name it. But instead they double down on identity politics/reverse racism while being gutless when it comes to what consenting entities do in the privacy of their whatever. They only wave the multi-colored flag because it is an easy way to pander to a broad base of voters.

out of curiosity would u have voted for Bernie? I am under the stupid impression that he would have won.

[mickmoranis]

is mickmoranis getting... woke?
hey i'm a social liberal too, this was me a couple years ago. its sad because i believe in a lot of the things the left "should" stand for on a strong genuine level, but i have to vote against them because they're inept/corrupt and i don't want to reward that. many trump voters hate the GOP and i was one of them. the best thing that can happen to the democratic party is it fails, fractures, and reforms or splits into new parties. right now the neoconservative/neoliberal democratic old guard is running the show and they're incredibly out of touch with the bulk of the party and most americans. even if they find another obama from out of nowhere, they have no platform anymore and they don't seem very poised to change that. its starting to happen.

I am pretty sure it has failed, and is fracturing and anything that is contrary to that is just media false news and hype.

[Xaanka]

I am pretty sure it has failed, and is fracturing and anything that is contrary to that is just media false news and hype.

democratic party is like 7 fractured parties fighting for power right now re: black lives matter trying to inject itself into everything because its losing relevance

and its not good for anyone

[Xaanka]

i would love to vote for a democratic or libertarian party that doesn't suck

[mickmoranis]

i would love to vote for a democratic or libertarian party that doesn't suck

you wont get one of those for.. well seemingly ever.

I just dont think the dems have what it takes to get their shit together at all. I dont see it happening. The entire party is in the pocket of the media, trying to chase their tail for booming headlines. You heard it yourself, the top democratic hopefulls and the top media eletese all agree, its a nothing burger, yet they wont cover/talk/look at anything else.

There is literally zero hope beyond someone materializing out of thin air and winning hearts and minds.

My real concern is, if we will see change under trump. Meaning a major change, as in a new war, change in world power allies or whatever. I could see it happening, though I am sure it wont.

But if you look around the world, seriously, find someone who is like upset with the way things are in america, where do you tell them to go? Canada? They are going ot be a shit show next election, Australia? sure maybe.. but other than Australia, there's no place to go that doesn't have HUGE problems for a liberal.

Even if you moved to Scandinavian, guess what? They wont have you. You arent allowed also all their money comes from your black gold you hate so much. And they're super racist... so... what? where do you go? Nowhere, because you have been living in a fantasy world if you are a liberal. There is no place on earth that subscribes to your idiology. Sad.

[Ahldagor]

Trouble is that the money is with the established paries already and campaigns aren't cheap on any level. The old guard will have to be voted out and the current fracturing of the parties is probably a symptom of the new guys coming in, but how long until they fall in line because of the money is the question. Campaign finance reform and term limits for all would ease the transitional congestion, but that's asking guys to basically fire themselves which proly isn't happening and would likely require and amendment or two.

[mickmoranis]

we had a very real trajectory to all of that and the party said NOPE

I dont see it happening in our generation, perhaps the next.

[nilzark]

America - Fuck Yea

[Rader]

out of curiosity would u have voted for Bernie? I am under the stupid impression that he would have won.

I am all for equality of opportunity, Bernie is more about equality of outcomes. Correct me if I am mistaken. I did want him to win the Democratic nomination, and I believed that he was sincere in his beliefs and wasn't just pandering to the largest common denominator, that is pretty F-ing rare in US politicians these days.

[JurisDictum]

I am all for equality of opportunity, Bernie is more about equality of outcomes. Correct me if I am mistaken. I did want him to win the Democratic nomination, and I believed that he was sincere in his beliefs and wasn't just pandering to the largest common denominator, that is pretty F-ing rare in US politicians these days.

How is a free college education really an equality of outcomes? I guess you can make that argument for healthcare. If everyone gets a free dental cleaning their be no incentive to brush your teeth god damnit!

But its kindda stupid because there is plenty of ways someone is punished for not making money other than healthcare. Starting with the fact that they have no god damn money and Bernie Sanders hasn't said a word about giving people like that any.

I doubt brain dead couch potato bums are thinking WOOT! Free college! It's only those stuck in some clerk job that want a finance degree and an internship -- give it to them.

Not that will solve our long-term workforce problems. But a lot of skills are going to need the government (people society) to chip in if we want to foster the kinds of skills that pay well in a global economy. It sounds all sickle and sythe commie to some -- but its not. It's just about using taxes to foster a decent business environment for well-paying jobs. People need education for that.

Wish Trump had the balls to do free education. I know on some level he knows that a good idea. Maybe we would have to restrict college majors so Republicans would feel better about it.

[AzzarTheGod]

I dont see it happening in our generation, perhaps the next.

The woke is real

[AzzarTheGod]

I am all for equality of opportunity, Bernie is more about equality of outcomes. Correct me if I am mistaken. I did want him to win the Democratic nomination, and I believed that he was sincere in his beliefs and wasn't just pandering to the largest common denominator, that is pretty F-ing rare in US politicians these days.


D-double woke

[Rader]

I guess you can make that argument for healthcare. If everyone gets a free dental cleaning their be no incentive to brush your teeth god damnit!

In simplistic terms, that is the argument. Do you give every one the right to buy toothpaste and a toothbrush, or do you pay for free dental care, regardless of whether or not they bought those items and used them in the proper way?

[Pokesan]

In simplistic terms, that is the argument. Do you give every one the right to buy toothpaste and a toothbrush, or do you pay for free dental care, regardless of whether or not they bought those items and used them in the proper way?

it sounds like you just want the state to smear your makeup and tell you you're a good boy

[skarlorn]

global economy with 1 currency and everyone gets enough money to survive even if they don't work. Robots will soon be so advanced that the peon classes will starve or educate and adapt. But as we have seen in this election, the peon classes do not want to educate and adapt.

So the smart and rich will eventually have to genocide them or they will have to front the bill for these peasants to eat and have shelter. Genociding them is a mistake because it will traumatize and harm the powerful, educated elite of our civilzation. They will bear the emotional trauma of this for generations, not to mention what it will do to the corn and cotton.

I for one will gladly help the peasants so that we have a suitable amount of chaff to strap to rockets and ship out to Mars. I practice this in my EQ adventures by giving away lump sums of platinum and other worldly treasures, and then leading the commonwealth into dungeons and abandoning them in dangerous situations.

This is evolution of the human race. Get with the gameplan or die.

tis the way of the future lads.

[Csihar]

Anyone agree that conservatives are and have been fucked on a social level since forever but that the extreme left has gone full retard and are now the biggest danger on a social level? And that the right is (ab)using the left's rhetoric to make themselves seem levelheaded and fair in comparison? After decades of anti-white anti-male rhetoric from the left, the right and white men (and women) are rightfully fighting back but they're also using sneaky tactics. "Racism? What's that? Oh, you mean that thing that blacks do?". "No one has a problem with gay people! We just don't believe in special treatment".

Steamroll the extreme left-wing first and then go back to chastizing conversatives and blocking the right's efforts to create a semi-theocracy.

[Pokesan]

Anyone agree that conservatives are and have been fucked on a social level since forever but that the extreme left has gone full retard and are now the biggest danger on a social level? And that the right is (ab)using the left's rhetoric to make themselves seem levelheaded and fair in comparison? After decades of anti-white anti-male rhetoric from the left, the right and white men (and women) are rightfully fighting back but they're also using sneaky tactics. "Racism? What's that? Oh, you mean that thing that blacks do?". "No one has a problem with gay people! We just don't believe in special treatment".

Steamroll the extreme left-wing first and then go back to chastizing conversatives and blocking the right's efforts to create a semi-theocracy.

good post

add insincere whining as their trump card

[mickmoranis]

the president is going full kamacho right now posting links of him wrestling CNN

at least we live in the funniest universe.

[Ahldagor]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/mjBco

The toupe even comes off a bit.

[brightlights]

the left:

http://i.imgur.com/M1QFpcE.gif

[Pokesan]

the president is going full kamacho right now posting links of him wrestling CNN

at least we live in the funniest universe.

https://twitter.com/Jschmuck2/status/881571071190642688

[brightlights]

everyone involved in that conversation is a worthless fat nonfactor

one of them had a good day

[AzzarTheGod]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/mjBco

The toupe even comes off a bit.

idk i was sure its a combover situation. but i guess its possible its a bigger hair piece in there.

[AzzarTheGod]

global economy with 1 currency and everyone gets enough money to survive even if they don't work. Robots will soon be so advanced that the peon classes will starve or educate and adapt. But as we have seen in this election, the peon classes do not want to educate and adapt.

So the smart and rich will eventually have to genocide them or they will have to front the bill for these peasants to eat and have shelter. Genociding them is a mistake because it will traumatize and harm the powerful, educated elite of our civilzation. They will bear the emotional trauma of this for generations, not to mention what it will do to the corn and cotton.

I for one will gladly help the peasants so that we have a suitable amount of chaff to strap to rockets and ship out to Mars. I practice this in my EQ adventures by giving away lump sums of platinum and other worldly treasures, and then leading the commonwealth into dungeons and abandoning them in dangerous situations.

This is evolution of the human race. Get with the gameplan or die.

tis the way of the future lads.


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[Pokesan]

everyone involved in that conversation is a worthless fat nonfactor

one of them had a good day

eh, anyone with a checkmark is more of a factor than some anonymous troll

[AzzarTheGod]

eh, anyone with a checkmark is more of a factor than some anonymous troll

my sega on the check

[entruil]

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shit is true... skar should write a book about the fears and complacency and utter capitulence from 1913... including bits of congress voting no and bulldozing the vets they love...

[mickmoranis]

eh, anyone with a checkmark is more of a factor than some anonymous troll

There is a new thing that people are learning about, its called "official source reporting" its what everyone who has a "check" mark does with what they call "journalism"

What it means, is that basically if someone is PART of the establishment, you take their source of information as more important than anyone else.

The result is shit like Fake news on CNN and every single other lefty media outlet, becuse they masterbate to official sources, they worship them, you think they are knowledgeable and experienced, that their time being cucked in their industry some how makes them more reliable than anyone else.

its a bad and destructive way to live, you shouldn't just assume someone with a check next to their name, put there BY a corporation, is some how more of a factor than anyone else.

Remember, its that attitude that got the trump with the check who posts about wrestling, in the whitehouse.

[entruil]

thanks... peace.

[mickmoranis]

when someone says cnn is fake, they are saying the official sources that cnn uses to confirm information are just mouthpieces for corporations.

Which is why everyone on the left is so fucking confused, theyre like CNN ISNT FAKE! but the truth is, yes it is, its just what the establishment says is true, which you think is true, because theyre the establishment, is actually a load of bullshit.

So yes, the establishment agree's, trump used a secret ham raidio to talk to russia and plan the overthrow of america... but that doesnt make it TRUE.

But since EVERYONE agree's that its true, the left thinks that it is.

Its how fake news rules the world, thanks to white privilege and white hubris. Yah white liberals.