******Official politics thread ******

[Patriam1066]

do you agree? do violence to proven nazis to stop them from spreading their ideas?

My family is Muslim so no

Islam is nazism in a slightly different form and while I disagree with the religion, if you came after my family I'd drag you behind an f-250 on a gravel road

God bless

[mickmoranis]

do you agree? do violence to proven nazis to stop them from spreading their ideas?

yes/no but mostly no, it only encourages more of a hardened stance, it also is the type of behavior most neo nazi's enjoy, while its the opposite of what good Americans like. So you're making america less appealing for the good folk, and more appealing for neo nazi's when you stoop to their level.

The more violence on the streets, the more violent neo-nazism can walk around doing what nazi's like to do, stomping skulls with steel toe boots.

Now, if you go to a punk show, and there are a bunch of nazi punks there, go ahead and say nazi punks can fuck off all you want.

But bring that punk attitude into the daily life of Americans and try to use violence to squelch alt right folk, who are actually authoritarian, which mean they want heightened law and order because that tends to punish minorities more than white people, then all you're doing is helping them achieve their goal, more authoritarian police, arresting the people who you think you're helping.

Remember more liberals have gone to jail over the violence in the last couple weeks than alt right people, so if you want more Mexicans and black people to be shot because of agitated police and heightened aggression, then by all means, go ahead and try to use violence to stop people from lawfully exorcising their right to freedom of speech. All you're doing is increasing the power of the police state, which harms minorities.

So you're playing right into the well thought out trap of the alt right.

the yes is, if you're at a punk show, go ahead and be punk. But liberal hippies being violent only means one thing, they have lost the war and chaos has taken over.

[Pokesan]

it sounds like you agree in principle but in practice undermines it's own goal

[NachtMystium]

reminder: Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.

B-b-but it was cuz nazis were evil and America will not stand for Evil™!!!

It's also funny to me that all these faux-righteous white ivy league dumb dumb's who will rant and rave about killing nazis in ww2 but defend north koreas right to attempt to bomb the US and demonize the use of atomic bombs on the japs in ww2 hahahahaha.

[Raavak]

reminder: Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.
There were a lot of Germans in the USA as well as Nazis and Nazi-sympathesizers (before the war and especially before concentration camps were discovered the fascists were highly regarded by the Progressives) . The country was mostly for the "Allies" hence the Lend Lease Act and the US armed services covertly aiding them at times. But there was much division. Pearl Harbor changed that.

When the USA declared war on Japan, Hitler followed with Germany declaring war on the US. Some people wonder if he hadn't if it had been a much different war. Going to Europe was probably inevitable though.

[NachtMystium]

There were a lot of Germans in the USA as well as Nazis and Nazi-sympathesizers (before the war and especially before concentration camps were discovered the fascists were highly regarded by the Progressives) . The country was mostly for the "Allies" hence the Lend Lease Act and the US armed services covertly aiding them at times. But there was much division. Pearl Harbor changed that.

When the USA declared war on Japan, Hitler followed with Germany declaring war on the US. Some people wonder if he hadn't if it had been a much different war. Going to Europe was probably inevitable though.

Are you saying that the left("Progressives") at that time were fascist/nazi germany sympathizers?

[JurisDictum]

This is not to far from an era when the KKK basically ran the south politically, so I have no doubt that their was a lot of nazi sympathizing.*

Then, maybe you guys remember this maybe not, we actually had an organized war with Germany and won. World War II it was called. And then it was no longer cool to be a Nazi.

This is where a bunch of disenfranchised hicks come in and cling to the image of power Hilter and his ideas had like 100 years ago. They think it will be cool and shocking to dress like a Nazi to grab attention for their political cause and help it grow into one that is relevant.

Now the only way this plan is going to work is if people start feeling sorry for them. Normal working white people that is. So I'm actually pretty annoyed someone would fuck with their pretend Nazi march -- because its just another method of ensuring white people don't band together with colored people to form a populist constituency.

So don't hit random protestors unless you want to help their cause. If you really like what BLM is doing, just punch a black teenager at a Trump rally and make sure it is on TV. If you want to help Nazi's out -- start locking them up and hitting them when they protest.

* I realize the KKK and Nazi aren't the same. My point was we were on the whole -- deeply racist back then.

[JurisDictum]

Are you saying that the left("Progressives") at that time were fascist/nazi germany sympathizers?

It was the opposite. It was always the countries right-wing. Roosevelt was king of the party then unquestionably and he was always 100% against them.

[Raavak]

Are you saying that the left("Progressives") at that time were fascist/nazi germany sympathizers?Early 20th century USA progressives and European fascists are the same thing.

You can ask Woodrow Wilson and Margaret Sanger all about that.

This is not to far from an era when the KKK basically ran the south politically, so I have no doubt that their was a lot of nazi sympathizing.
KKK sprang right out of the "Southern Democrats" post Civil War. And Southern Democrats ruled the South up until relatively recently.

[Xaanka]

for some historica context that seems to have missed revisionist high school history lessons or the posters of this thread, but before the war most people in Europe and the US were actually quite antisemitic on average. just look at walt disney for example, people like to pretend his jewthoughts were edgy back then when in reality they were commonplace and milquetoast. america never entered the war to valiantly defend the jews, in fact the story goes we didn't even know about the holocaust when we entered.

imagine thinking about these things through a lens where antisemitism hasn't been societally ingrained as the worst thing ever because 6 gorillion in the holocaust. imagine a world before the holocaust and following decades of guilting these cultures.

nobody gave a shit if you didn't trust the jews back then and most people didn't.

[pls dont make any more posts about wwii or history in general until you read more if you didn't already know everything i said in this post]

[Xaanka]

i don't understand how someone could read about historical events from over half a century ago and assume social climates were the same as they are today lmao didn't we just go from debating gay marriage to putting children on hormone blockers* in a 10 year span? things change fast.












* proof modern liberal culture is worse than anything german nazis ever did

[Nibblewitz]

People trying to find freedoms in a society that is no longer free.

[fash]

do you agree? do violence to proven nazis to stop them from spreading their ideas?

http://i.imgur.com/hui4Jev.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O65WK9L.png

Above liberal nerd got stabbed because his haircut looked like a hitlerjugend member from this black and white photo.
http://i.imgur.com/VSg4gdb.jpg

[JurisDictum]

Unless your in the top 10 elite-only universities -- The professors are just life long nerds that honestly want to know the truth about their subject. Even some of those at elite universities are. Most of them travel and spend a lot of time in the field despite the Ivory Tower stero-type (again, the stero-type is more accurate for Ivy League types).

Despite what you may have herd, intellectuals don't always cater to Ivy scholarship. Just the government and those in power. Mid-tier professors are actually totally against the system because they feel like its holding smart people like them back. They feel like they can't have an intelligent conversation because the media distracts everyone. They feel like the wrong people in society make too much money etc...

So this idea that college = elitist is a little misleading. There is a real learning and discovery at universities -- even if most the students are just there to have fun 4 years and get a professional entry-level job (hopefully).

The best example I can give on the divide between real intellectuals from the university and media intellectuals from playing who's who -- is Noam Chomsky vs other media pundits.

Noam is an peace dove know-it-all geek, but he doesn't play ball with the elites (he is happy studying and living on his trust fund). So you never see him on T.V. or hear about his ideas, unless you go to a mid-level university and have a professor explain them to you at the end of a 400 level social science class. In my experience, about 3% of people that age even understand wtf he talking about.

I think in order to make this country any better we got to stop it with the jocks vs nerds mentality of labour-oriented conservatives and university-oriented teachers. It's just guised anti-intellectualism on the right. But on the left, its a kind of ugly contempt that would better be directed against those actually causing the problems in society.

[maskedmelonpai]

it an awful haircut, but not something to get THAT worked up about...

[maskedmelonpai]

Unless your in the top 10 elite-only universities -- The professors are just life long nerds that honestly want to know the truth about their subject. Even some of those at elite universities are. Most of them travel and spend a lot of time in the field despite the Ivory Tower stero-type (again, the stero-type is more accurate for Ivy League types).

Despite what you may have herd, intellectuals don't always cater to Ivy scholarship. Just the government and those in power. Mid-tier professors are actually totally against the system because they feel like its holding smart people like them back. They feel like they can't have an intelligent conversation because the media distracts everyone. They feel like the wrong people in society make too much money etc...

So this idea that college = elitist is a little misleading. There is a real learning and discovery at universities -- even if most the students are just there to have fun 4 years and get a professional entry-level job (hopefully).

The best example I can give on the divide between real intellectuals from the university and media intellectuals from playing who's who -- is Noam Chomsky vs other media pundits.

Noam is an peace dove know-it-all geek, but he doesn't play ball with the elites (he is happy studying and living on his trust fund). So you never see him on T.V. or hear about his ideas, unless you go to a mid-level university and have a professor explain them to you at the end of a 400 level social science class. In my experience, about 3% of people that age even understand wtf he talking about.

I think in order to make this country any better we got to stop it with the jocks vs nerds mentality of labour-oriented conservatives and university-oriented teachers. It's just guised anti-intellectualism on the right. But on the left, its a kind of ugly contempt that dehumanizes people and their ideas.

good to see smart people feel helpless and opressed too.

[JurisDictum]

8766

All you office elitest liberal types should play close attention to that statement before you elect another pretend democrat nominee.

As Roosevelt said, the elite families of his day never had a better friend, he is the only thing that stopped the revolution (paraphrase).

You would be surprised how fast people warm up to communism when someone gives them a bunch of land to live on. All these poor conservatives suddenly offered "land reform" and given land to work? Conservative will mean a whole new thing after that.

[Patriam1066]

8766

All you office elitest liberal types should play close attention to that statement before you elect another pretend democrat nominee.

As Roosevelt said, the elite families of his day never had a better friend, he is the only thing that stopped the revolution (paraphrase).

You would be surprised how fast people warm up to communism when someone gives them a bunch of land to live on. All these poor conservatives suddenly offered "land reform" and given land to work? Conservative will mean a whole new thing after that.

So the commies will kill everyone if true leftists aren't elected

Boy that's some incentive to see things a different way. Coercion and threats...

[chadtwoke]

So the commies will kill everyone if true leftists aren't elected

Boy that's some incentive to see things a different way. Coercion and threats...

No it's the Nazi's and Trumps fault. Antifa are just protecting humanity.

[JurisDictum]

So the commies will kill everyone if true leftists aren't elected

Boy that's some incentive to see things a different way. Coercion and threats...

Pointing out revolution is inevitable under certain circumstances does not a threat make. The possibility of a illiberal revolution (wouldn't say large scale violence is likely) should be some incentive for the elite to give back a bit. But I don't see them doing it. Historically the elite simply can't imagine why anyone would seriously want to change anything. They assume what has happened for a long time will happen for ever. Until they are deposed -- and then they try distance themselves from the old regime (like the opportunists they are) like anyone is going to buy that.

[NachtMystium]

The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism (https://vid.me/UoQm)

[JurisDictum]

You know most you guys have spent waaaay too much time learning about how evil people like Mao are to pay attention to what he discovered. He discovered that it wasn't city factory workers that can create the revolution. Their aren't enough of them and a huge portion of them are not even planning to stay in the U.S. (China in his case).

The countryside. That's where the revolutionary potential is. That's where the people that know how to take care of themselves but are repressed by local elites live. That's where you get people that will actually care about the long term of the country (that aren't already libbed-up office professionals).

So guys can keep talking about "the left" all you want. But that's not who my eye is on. It's whenever things finally start getting shitty enough in the countryside. For everyone to realize that their land is being bought up and their business corporatize.

When the banks start coming for the family farm in mass -- that's when "the commies" will show up.

[AzzarTheGod]

My family is Muslim so no

Islam is nazism in a slightly different form and while I disagree with the religion, if you came after my family I'd drag you behind an f-250 on a gravel road

God bless

lol pras. make it an F-350 King Ranch and we're talkin

[Nibblewitz]

You know most you guys have spent waaaay too much time learning about how evil people like Mao are to pay attention to what he discovered. He discovered that it wasn't city factory workers that can create the revolution. Their aren't enough of them and a huge portion of them are not even planning to stay in the U.S. (China in his case).

The countryside. That's where the revolutionary potential is. That's where the people that know how to take care of themselves but are repressed by local elites live. That's where you get people that will actually care about the long term of the country (that aren't already libbed-up office professionals).

So guys can keep talking about "the left" all you want. But that's not who my eye is on. It's whenever things finally start getting shitty enough in the countryside. For everyone to realize that their land is being bought up and their business corporatize.

When the banks start coming for the family farm in mass -- that's when "the commies" will show up.

I'm counting on the religious who can be fooled to believe almost anything and act on it with pious conviction.

[Patriam1066]

I'm counting on the religious who can be fooled to believe almost anything and act on it with pious conviction.

I agree but for a different reason. The Mormons are the last hope for this country to stop obesity and single motherhood

[maskedmelon]

Pointing out revolution is inevitable under certain circumstances does not a threat make. The possibility of a illiberal revolution (wouldn't say large scale violence is likely) should be some incentive for the elite to give back a bit. But I don't see them doing it. Historically the elite simply can't imagine why anyone would seriously want to change anything. They assume what has happened for a long time will happen for ever. Until they are deposed -- and then they try distance themselves from the old regime (like the opportunists they are) like anyone is going to buy that.

this is the danger of placating one's conscience in the subsidy of failure. a man not given to thought will never be and neutering one's mind in collective delusion to the contrary changes neither his nature nor his state.

verily he will come for you who are his better, more intelligent, conscientious, attractive, virtuous in your natural fitness. in spite of your charity, indeed contemptuous of the modesty of it, he will take, by force, that which fate, by way of the natural order, has unjustly denied him. the cruelty wrought of your own incomplete and deluded compassion having bred a a swell of hate and disdain, now the enthusiastic usher of your own undoing.

[Xaanka]

Unless your in the top 10 elite-only universities -- The professors are just life long nerds that honestly want to know the truth about their subject. Even some of those at elite universities are. Most of them travel and spend a lot of time in the field despite the Ivory Tower stero-type (again, the stero-type is more accurate for Ivy League types).

Despite what you may have herd, intellectuals don't always cater to Ivy scholarship. Just the government and those in power. Mid-tier professors are actually totally against the system because they feel like its holding smart people like them back. They feel like they can't have an intelligent conversation because the media distracts everyone. They feel like the wrong people in society make too much money etc...

So this idea that college = elitist is a little misleading. There is a real learning and discovery at universities -- even if most the students are just there to have fun 4 years and get a professional entry-level job (hopefully).

The best example I can give on the divide between real intellectuals from the university and media intellectuals from playing who's who -- is Noam Chomsky vs other media pundits.

Noam is an peace dove know-it-all geek, but he doesn't play ball with the elites (he is happy studying and living on his trust fund). So you never see him on T.V. or hear about his ideas, unless you go to a mid-level university and have a professor explain them to you at the end of a 400 level social science class. In my experience, about 3% of people that age even understand wtf he talking about.

I think in order to make this country any better we got to stop it with the jocks vs nerds mentality of labour-oriented conservatives and university-oriented teachers. It's just guised anti-intellectualism on the right. But on the left, its a kind of ugly contempt that would better be directed against those actually causing the problems in society.

private school maybe, public schools LOLno

10 years ago maybe, current year hahahhahahahahhahaa

professors like that may exist in the public system but they're very few and far between. rock the boat even slightly and you're fired and blacklisted these days. ever say an edgy thing on the internet once in your life? well that student you failed for not showing up to the test is going to find that and complain to the admin. etc.

[mickmoranis]

Let's see if the left decides UC berkely is a nazi after this.

Also I take offence to the wording "Charlottesville, with their racism"

what do you mean, THEIR racism? You saying everyone in Charlottesville is racist? smh trump would be ripped apart for that wording.

anyway, the left is going to go nuts reading this I'm sure, who wants to bet they protest for her the sacking of this chancoler over it.

Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,

This fall, the issue of free speech will once more engage our community in powerful and complex ways. Events in Charlottesville, with their racism, bigotry, violence and mayhem, make the issue of free speech even more tense. The law is very clear; public institutions like UC Berkeley must permit speakers invited in accordance with campus policies to speak, without discrimination in regard to point of view. The United States has the strongest free speech protections of any liberal democracy; the First Amendment protects even speech that most of us would find hateful, abhorrent and odious, and the courts have consistently upheld these protections.

But the most powerful argument for free speech is not one of legal constraint—that we’re required to allow it—but of value. The public expression of many sharply divergent points of view is fundamental both to our democracy and to our mission as a university. The philosophical justification underlying free speech, most powerfully articulated by John Stuart Mill in his book On Liberty, rests on two basic assumptions. The first is that truth is of such power that it will always ultimately prevail; any abridgement of argument therefore compromises the opportunity of exchanging error for truth. The second is an extreme skepticism about the right of any authority to determine which opinions are noxious or abhorrent. Once you embark on the path to censorship, you make your own speech vulnerable to it.

Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus. Particularly now, it is critical that the Berkeley community come together once again to protect this right. It is who we are.

Nonetheless, defending the right of free speech for those whose ideas we find offensive is not easy. It often conflicts with the values we hold as a community—tolerance, inclusion, reason and diversity. Some constitutionally-protected speech attacks the very identity of particular groups of individuals in ways that are deeply hurtful. However, the right response is not the heckler’s veto, or what some call platform denial. Call toxic speech out for what it is, don’t shout it down, for in shouting it down, you collude in the narrative that universities are not open to all speech. Respond to hate speech with more speech.

We all desire safe space, where we can be ourselves and find support for our identities. You have the right at Berkeley to expect the university to keep you physically safe. But we would be providing students with a less valuable education, preparing them less well for the world after graduation, if we tried to shelter them from ideas that many find wrong, even dangerous. We must show that we can choose what to listen to, that we can cultivate our own arguments and that we can develop inner resilience, which is the surest form of safe space. These are not easy tasks, and we will offer support services for those who desire them.

This September, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos have both been invited by student groups to speak at Berkeley. The university has the responsibility to provide safety and security for its community and guests, and we will invest the necessary resources to achieve that goal. If you choose to protest, do so peacefully. That is your right, and we will defend it with vigor. We will not tolerate violence, and we will hold anyone accountable who engages in it.
We will have many opportunities this year to come together as a Berkeley community over the issue of free speech; it will be a free speech year. We have already planned a student panel, a faculty panel and several book talks. Bridge USA and the Center for

New Media will hold a day-long conference on October 5; PEN, the international writers’ organization, will hold a free speech convening in Berkeley on October 23. We are planning a series in which people with sharply divergent points of view will meet for a moderated discussion. Free speech is our legacy, and we have the power once more to shape this narrative.

Sincerely,
Carol Christ

Chancellor

[mickmoranis]

No it's the Nazi's and Trumps fault. Antifa are just protecting humanity.

You and my 14 year old nephew would get along well. He will amount to nothing by the time he's your age too.

[AzzarTheGod]

i been on that next shit,

xaanka like how come?

posters want my old shit,

i said buy my old album,

[Nibblewitz]

You and my 14 year old nephew would get along well. He will amount to nothing by the time he's your age too.

Look at how big my hamster wheel is, and I get to ride on it everyday to secure my master's future.

[mickmoranis]

You're right, being upset, full of anger, living paycheck to paycheck and blaming the universe is a much better life.

[AzzarTheGod]

You're right, being upset, full of anger, living paycheck to paycheck and blaming the universe is a much better life.

yo my sega on the dunks

[Nibblewitz]

"possession is the motivation that is hangin' up the Goddamn nation..."

[AzzarTheGod]

yo this nibblewitz got bars too damnn

[mickmoranis]

Someone once said that every generation thinks their generation is going to be the one that lives through the end of days.

Our generation, of being spoon fed GIJOE toys, movies and video games, raised by hippies and given participation trophies made the majority of us think that our generation was the one that would reach transcendence and some how materialize a fucking utopia out of thin air like our macaroni and cheese was every night without lifting a finger beyond posting online, aka asking mommy for it.

[AzzarTheGod]

this zega spittin RED PILL fire

[mickmoranis]

this zega spittin RED PILL fire

God I love u azzar :cool:

[NachtMystium]

atlantis was and is real. im bout to get aquatic on yall nibbas and transcend this mortal coil into thulean transcendence.

The waters will not reveal the truth, for the truth is already in it's holy place and there it shall stay for eternity.

[Pokesan]

ok kirk

[mickmoranis]

"peaceful protest tips form sfist"

Liberals gather to leave 900 bags of dog shit on the floor for employee's of the park to clean up afterwords (lets be real these bags of dog shit are going to be all over the fucking places after the throw it in the perpetual temper tantrum that is being a liberal in 2017)

http://amp.sfist.com/amp/articles/create?article_id=599e0af03b237700010a48cb

http://i.imgur.com/9ehxEhD.png

Dog Poop Protest
Almost 900 people have said they'll be bringing their dogs by Crissy Field and leaving their poop there between Friday and Saturday morning. (Note the Patriot Prayer rally indicated they'd be on the beach part!) The organizer is suggesting they return to clean up Saturday night or Sunday.

[Pokesan]

Calling All Clowns - Fascism is No Laughing Matter

Inspired by the townspeople of Fayetteville, Arkansas, who in order to counter-protest a Ku Klux Klan rally in their town in the 1990s all dressed up in clown wigs and makeup, in an attempt to humiliate them, a group of San Francisco clowns (78 say they're going so far) will attempt to creatively mock the proceedings of the rally. "We have no leader here but we encourage you to join with your biting wit, your absurdity, your balloons, your signs, your red noses, wigs, and other clowning accoutrements."

fam-uh-lee, fam-uh-lee

[fash]

fam-uh-lee, fam-uh-lee

Fuckin magnets, how do they work?

[Ahldagor]

Someone once said that every generation thinks their generation is going to be the one that lives through the end of days.

Our generation, of being spoon fed GIJOE toys, movies and video games, raised by hippies and given participation trophies made the majority of us think that our generation was the one that would reach transcendence and some how materialize a fucking utopia out of thin air like our macaroni and cheese was every night without lifting a finger beyond posting online, aka asking mommy for it.

You forgot Rage Against the Machine and The Matrix Trilogy.

[Tiax]

http://i.imgur.com/N9VgPNc.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

fam-uh-lee, fam-uh-lee

my uncle used to sing that shit. its catchy in an dumb idiot sort of way

[Xaanka]

my only family is my juggalo crew WHO HEARS ME WOOP WOOP

[Xaanka]

we went from debating gay marriage to putting children on puberty blockers in under a decade lol

we're here we're queer hope your children like it (don't forget to bring them to the gay pride parade where chisled men and tweakers alike openly engage in unprotected public anal sex on the floats mere feet away)

[Domo]

Today in germany:

http://i.imgur.com/uMCUTeW.jpg

(Stern is a weekly magazine, and has a leftist stance)

Edit:
Ive just read few twitter comments to this cover, and even the leftys are pissed about it;

- "Is it not possible to criticize Trumps policy without Hitler's comparisons?"
- "Sad Relation of History! Nothing is too disgusting for a title. Who is stoking the hatred?"

[brightlights]

Left pissed about something (anything) related to trump? No change there.

Soon they'll be calling him a Muslim and demanding his birth certificate.

Meanwhile they'll keep not going to bipartisan hearings to get rid of gerrymandering laws.

At least when the republicans shut down the government it was in line with their political ideology. This behavior on the left is a 180 from ALL of their political ideologies. Sad.

[fash]

Today in germany:

http://i.imgur.com/uMCUTeW.jpg

Makes him look like a roman senator in film/tv, but in a US-flag-style toga. Or maybe I watched the Rome tv series too recently.

http://i.imgur.com/kuBiexV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/XxK8XnY.png

or maybe he's just a patriotic american?
http://i.imgur.com/NvmnIm4.jpg

[Xaanka]

hahaha no you're right, they totally ruined it with the flag toga thing he looks like a roman senator

[brightlights]

more evidence the entire dialogue that drives the left is the result of FAKE news, since they decided to just leave out this because it doesn't fit their narrative

"if i was on the other side, i would be on the front page of CNN but becuse Im a black trump supporter they ignored it completely"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iIkJhZwWls

THE LEFT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE

[brightlights]

pokesan take note, you're being manipulated by politicians that are trying to drum up hype for the coming elections because they have NOTHING to offer as far as solutions so anger is their only tool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlBSiNPr_Io

[Ahldagor]

pokesan take note, you're being manipulated by politicians that are trying to drum up hype for the coming elections because they have NOTHING to offer as far as solutions so anger is their only tool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlBSiNPr_Io

Eighteen months to mid terms, woo woo, get the train a chuggin'.

[fugazi]

Brightlights insisting there is a relevant left movement in the US. Now that's a solid joke.

Also, I need way more kool aid for threads like these. Where do I sign up to join the incel club?

[NachtMystium]

nibba the nibbas been a major demographic for votes since forever and now they're doubling down on it all for a final coup de grâce onto themselves thanks to Trump. Every day is christmas folks, the left cannot meme and the left also cannot and will never win.

[Raavak]

-Wanting to know who is coming and going from your country, and paying their requisite taxes doesn't make you a racist. It makes you reasonable.
-Wanting to vette immigrants better from a handful of minor Muslim countries with large active extremist terrorist populations doesn't make you a racist. It makes you reasonable.

This is why Donald Trump is popular among the reasonable people, despite his boorish behavior and eye-roll-inducing tweets. If you don't get that you won't beat him in the next election.

[mickmoranis]

Brightlights insisting there is a relevant left movement in the US. Now that's a solid joke.

Also, I need way more kool aid for threads like these. Where do I sign up to join the incel club?

right now the left actually thinks they are in the majority and dont realize that its the same 10% of fat women and 2% of fat male virgins posting because they yell at anyone who disagree's with them.

I felt bad for the libtards crying at the bar during election night last year, but in 2018 im going to be gloating like a motha fucker.

[Raavak]

Hurricane Harvey has just made landfall in Texas.

Trump has failed to speak out on the plight of the Texan's suffering this terror, and in fact is denying global warming, all the while people die!

[mickmoranis]

Hurricane Harvey has just made landfall in Texas.

Trump has failed to speak out on the plight of the Texan's suffering this terror, and in fact is denying global warming, all the while people die!

trump's a weather supremacist!

[JurisDictum]

Mic,

I know you think its really important to point out the hysterical D.C. Democrats are slightly more hysterical than the hysterical D.C. Republicans ATM. But I think most Americans are getting past that slowly.

It would be nice if you could get the a place where you see why what D.C. Democrats and Republicans say means almost nothing to most people at this point.

The D.C. establishment and those enslaved by their way of thinking are completely irrelevant to anyone but themselves. They serve to distract -- except now they are no longer serving their purpose well.

[Ahldagor]

Hurricane Harvey has just made landfall in Texas.

Trump has failed to speak out on the plight of the Texan's suffering this terror, and in fact is denying global warming, all the while people die!

So?

[loramin]

-Wanting to know who is coming and going from your country, and paying their requisite taxes doesn't make you a racist. It makes you reasonable.
-Wanting to vette immigrants better from a handful of minor Muslim countries with large active extremist terrorist populations doesn't make you a racist. It makes you reasonable.

This is why Donald Trump is popular among the reasonable people, despite his boorish behavior and eye-roll-inducing tweets. If you don't get that you won't beat him in the next election.

Yeah, and locking up the Japanese-American citizens in internment camps during WWII was reasonable too. Reasonable doesn't mean right.

[mickmoranis]

Mic,

I know you think its really important to point out the hysterical D.C. Democrats are slightly more hysterical than the hysterical D.C. Republicans ATM. But I think most Americans are getting past that slowly.

It would be nice if you could get the a place where you see why what D.C. Democrats and Republicans say means almost nothing to most people at this point.

The D.C. establishment and those enslaved by their way of thinking are completely irrelevant to anyone but themselves. They serve to distract -- except now they are no longer serving their purpose well.

idk I dont think its important, I think it feels good to.

I mean shit who knows whats actually going to happen in 2018 and 2020.. I could care less either way.

But I will rip into libtards for being super tarded until they're all dead of radiation or they finally shutup.

[Pokesan]

hell hath no fury like a berniebro scorned

[mickmoranis]

feminazi.

look i just know we was wrong and conservatism is a better policy for the next 100 years at least or so.

we partook in a system that gave a voice to the loudest most childish pathetic losers and they took the podium and ran with it down a path to darkness.

[Ahldagor]

feminazi.

look i just know we was wrong and conservatism is a better policy for the next 100 years at least or so.

we partook in a system that gave a voice to the loudest most childish pathetic losers and they took the podium and ran with it down a path to darkness.

That's what happens when you seek power. Glad you're figuring it out.

[Xaanka]

nazis - pomade and edgy words
antifa - nerds with hand bottled turds

do i understand politics yet

[Pokesan]

nazis - pomade and edgy words
antifa - nerds with hand bottled turds

do i understand politics yet

spencer said he'd ban football

this is war

[brightlights]

That's what happens when you seek power. Glad you're figuring it out.

Tell me something why do you continue to seek it then?

[Ahldagor]

nazis - pomade and edgy words
antifa - nerds with hand bottled turds

do i understand politics yet

Pretty much.

[Swish]

trump's a weather supremacist!

lol

[AzzarTheGod]

nazis - pomade and edgy words
antifa - nerds with hand bottled turds

do i understand politics yet

lmao legit dunks

any white male with any type of vanity or suit is a nazi. hillary even had a commercial showing men in suits and implying its nazi behavior.

aka stay t-shirt, cucked, and fucked. luv me some liberal politic because they fuck the most ass out of any political party. the repubs dont deliver.

[brightlights]

being a liberal is like paying for sex

[JurisDictum]

You know as bad as the boomers were -- I really think Gen X takes the cake on shitty political attitudes. The Kiss generation IMO. Flashy and Hollow. The generation that stands for nothing and basically accomplished nothing.

Gen X is to the Boomers what The Silent Generation is to the Greatest Generation. They are tag-alongs too small an insignificant to form their own generational identity -- so their the "good boys/girls" of the last one.

"We’re seeing this play out in Congress today with Gen X leaders like Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.), Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) on the right, and leaders like Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) and Cory Booker (N.J.) on the left."

What a bunch of shitters. But man they sure good at getting themselves paid. That's one thing Gen. X excels at -- fucking others for money and not feeling bad about it.

8800

My Gen X real estate finance instructor (not a professor) was damn good I have to admit.

[JurisDictum]

Seriously, to hold everyone in Generation X responsible for this guy for a minute,

WTF were you lachkey kids up to when no one was looking? What kind of toad torturing sick crap did you guys do on a regular basis to make it so when you grow up -- you think it's OK to charge 3,000 USD for an epipen?


Pretty good summary of just who Gen X is on a macro level:

https://www.campaignsandelections.com/campaign-insider/forget-millennials-gen-x-is-taking-over-washington


Meanwhile, if you’re a political consultant looking to take your business to the next level, Gen X is where most of your client growth will be. Here are a few observations about this rising crop of leaders to help you get a grip on their “Just Do It” mindset.

First, polls consistently show that Gen X is split between an older cohort born in the 1960s that is radically conservative and a younger cohort born in the 1970s that is quite progressive, though not as optimistically liberal as Millennials. As both parties search for new leaders, the GOP’s greatest champions are likely to come from the older cohort, while the Democratic Party’s heroes will probably come from the younger cohort.

Second, many Gen Xers adopt a cynically libertarian posture, even if they aren’t ideological libertarians. This generation is filled with “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” types, who take a hands-off approach to most issues. As latchkey kids, many Gen Xers grew up with weak parental supervision, so they are instinctually distrustful of authorities attempting to impose their will from above.

Third, Gen Xers are used to playing by their own rules. These rebels without a cause are the misfits of the generational cycle. Not only can this make them difficult to manage and organize, it also means the number and scope of political and personal scandals could skyrocket in the years ahead as this generation’s leaders come under greater scrutiny. When you take on Gen-X clients, make sure you vet them thoroughly – and make sure you have a good crisis management specialist on speed dial.

[Raavak]

any white male with any type of vanity or suit is a nazi. hillary even had a commercial showing men in suits and implying its nazi behavior.
I've heard a couple times now nazis being referred to as capitalists. Wtf, "Socialist" is half the meaning of Nazi. Nazi Germany had a socialist command-and-control economy.

Almost bad as the "antifa" so-called-antifascists being, in fact, purely fascist.

[JurisDictum]

I've heard a couple times now nazis being referred to as capitalists. Wtf, "Socialist" is half the meaning of Nazi. Nazi Germany had a socialist command-and-control economy.

Almost bad as the "antifa" so-called-antifascists being, in fact, purely fascist.

Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc..

It's funny that their are all these real countries in plain sight to free market fundamentalists, but they insist that has to be Stalin in Russia or Hitler in Germany in 1940's....

Indoctrination. Your repeating tired old red scare propaganda as the entire country is robbed by free-market fundamentalism. It's a good thing they don't teach that shit to kids anymore.

And BTW: To academics (including historians), Fascism is not Socialism or even Communism. Fascism didn't even change the fundamental economic structure of Germany at the time. Just added some well-fare mostly. It did only in the sense that you needed to be in the Nazi party to do business, and you needed to make sure you were being a good Nazi while doing business.

But the main reason academics think its weird to call him a socialist is because Hitler rounded up all the Marxists and radical socialists and killed them asap. He repeatedly referred to socialism as an enemy to his ideology of Nazism.

What Stalin and Hitler have in common was not really politics but methods. They were both totalitarian meaning they believed in government totally controlling all elements of people's lives. North Korea is a modern example (which is actually communist).

[JurisDictum]

That's what we should call what Trump is trying to pull off:

Military-Industrial Socialism

Everyone gets theirs -- as long as they are working for the military or a related industry (hopefully both). We'll not interfere with the richers in the tech industry or the Aristocratic property owners like Trump. In everyone else gets hoesed. No safety net, no job security, all investments (including retirement) are now garnished to death by Wall ST. -- JOIN THE NAVY!

Unless you want to move out west and get a tech job or grow pot (both at once is pretty lucrative). Anyway I guess that's what reminds me of Hitler in Trump. Not as bad or anything...but similar in style.

[Lune]

Nazi Germany had a socialist command-and-control economy.

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.

[dafier]

North Korea is a modern example (which is actually communist).

I wouldn't call it communist at all. Remember, the Kim's are gods. They aren't just a 'fearless leader'. The people are made to worship the family. There are plenty of defectors in South Korea and else where in the world who have given their testimony of what really goes on in NK.

Reminds me Japan prior WW2, minus the emperor didn't flat out kill his people and other heinous things. If the Emp tells his people something, they listen and obey. I mean, it's their god! How can they not?

[Rader]

You know as bad as the boomers were -- I really think Gen X takes the cake on shitty political attitudes. The Kiss generation IMO. Flashy and Hollow. The generation that stands for nothing and basically accomplished nothing.

Gen X is to the Boomers what The Silent Generation is to the Greatest Generation. They are tag-alongs too small an insignificant to form their own generational identity -- so their the "good boys/girls" of the last one.

"We’re seeing this play out in Congress today with Gen X leaders like Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.), Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) on the right, and leaders like Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) and Cory Booker (N.J.) on the left."

What a bunch of shitters. But man they sure good at getting themselves paid. That's one thing Gen. X excels at -- fucking others for money and not feeling bad about it.

8800

My Gen X real estate finance instructor (not a professor) was damn good I have to admit.

You are obviously a pathetic loser who has accomplished nothing on your own, if you have to grasp desperately at a sense of self-importance by attaching yourself to some imagined generational force. Personally, you and the rest of the snowflake millennials can all go F yourselves for all I care.

[mickmoranis]

Im going to be really disappointed if world war 3 doesn't start in the next few years.

[JurisDictum]

I wouldn't call it communist at all. Remember, the Kim's are gods. They aren't just a 'fearless leader'. The people are made to worship the family. There are plenty of defectors in South Korea and else where in the world who have given their testimony of what really goes on in NK.

Reminds me Japan prior WW2, minus the emperor didn't flat out kill his people and other heinous things. If the Emp tells his people something, they listen and obey. I mean, it's their god! How can they not?

Communism can mean a few different things to people -- but in most the political science world it means a certain kind of authoritarian system where one party (they usually call themselves a socialist party) controls a far-reaching government that does not allow free assembly, expression of political ideas, or most civil disobedience.

They control who gets to run what business and sometimes have large amount of state-owned business that displace free enterprise. If you want to advance in that society you have to join the party and they basically rule your life. No sense of privacy or civil rights.

Mix all that together with some Marxist language and wellfare for single women and education and you got yourself a communist country. Most these countries also have had leaders that purposefully make a "cult of personality." Marxism doesn't think people can unite while they are religious -- so they try to replace faith in God with faith in the state. It's not that uncommon for leaders to be deified.

While it is interesting to talk about what Marx's vision of communism was. The word is now use to describe a type of dictatorship (single-party systems we call it). Meanwhile the true heirs of Marx call themselves Democratic-socialists. They consider Communism -- as I do -- to be a fake-socialist system that is actually just a shitty form of capitalism (there was a money-economy in all these societies).

[JurisDictum]

You are obviously a pathetic loser who has accomplished nothing on your own, if you have to grasp desperately at a sense of self-importance by attaching yourself to some imagined generational force. Personally, you and the rest of the snowflake millennials can all go F yourselves for all I care.

Well, judging by your butthurt and personalized response, you think generational culture is a significant force too.

[Raavak]

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.This is wrong. The capitalist activity occurred on the black market. Albert Speer controlled the rest.

[dafier]

Communism can mean a few different things to people -- but in most the political science world it means a certain kind of authoritarian system where one party (they usually call themselves a socialist party) controls a far-reaching government that does not allow free assembly, expression of political ideas, or most civil disobedience.

They control who gets to run what business and sometimes have large amount of state-owned business that displace free enterprise. If you want to advance in that society you have to join the party and they basically rule your life. No sense of privacy or civil rights.

Mix all that together with some Marxist language and wellfare for single women and education and you got yourself a communist country. Most these countries also have had leaders that purposefully make a "cult of personality." Marxism doesn't think people can unite while they are religious -- so they try to replace faith in God with faith in the state. It's not that uncommon for leaders to be deified.

While it is interesting to talk about what Marx's vision of communism was. The word is now use to describe a type of dictatorship (single-party systems we call it). Meanwhile the true heirs of Marx call themselves Democratic-socialists. They consider Communism -- as I do -- to be a fake-socialist system that is actually just a shitty form of capitalism (there was a money-economy in all these societies).

I am not disagreeing with what you are saying about communism. NK is more of a Totalitarian or Monarchy government with the exception that the Kims are not Kings, they are gods.

Communist in their case would insinuate that the one person has a comity in which has a 'say'.

[mickmoranis]

Nkorea shoots missile over japan, that's a first.

[AzzarTheGod]

Nkorea shoots missile over japan, that's a first.

its a fraud they did a launch from China.

there is no evidence to support a NK launch outside of what intelligence services have said.

[Lojik]

Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc..

Indoctrination.



Yeah, because comparing social welfare programs from countries that are 1/60 the size of the US, are more homogeneous, and have only recently become relatively rich countries due to natural resources are good barometers on which to measure the US. Don't these countries rate ahead of the US on a lot of "Which countries are more free market" surveys as well? Also, at least in Norway until recently immigration was very difficult.

Also, please objectively elaborate as to why other people are indoctrinated and you are educated (not indocrinated.)

That's what we should call what Trump is trying to pull off:

Military-Industrial Socialism

Because this hasn't already existed for the past 70 years? Please tell me a presidential candidate [that made it past the primaries] from the two political parties that has campaigned on a smaller military?

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.

Are the distinctions between socialist/fascist even relevant? I mean, there isn't really any objective criterion you can place to label one government more free market than the next, I guess you can conduct some surveys? Nazi Germany targeted industries that were parasitic, or that didn't earn their income through toil and sweat, or didn't allow jewish industries to thrive. These industries just happen to be the same target of Bernie Sanders type rhetoric today, just without the anti-semitism (I think?)

Nazi Germany even implemented a lot of social programs to benefit true germans or master race or whatever you want to call it...it's just like welfare programs in the US except not decided by income level only race. Does that mean it's not socialist? Most of the arguments I see that discuss fascist/socialist just get bogged down in semantics. Not only that, so many politicians or governments claim they want to enact legislation for the good of [said group] and yet the legislation is drafted with the aid of [other said group] and actually benefits [other said group.]

1) Almost impossible to differentiate between socialist/fascist
2) If it is possible, hard to objectively measure difference
3) Even if a government describes itself as one way, it may actually behave the opposite way

[brightlights]

http://i.imgur.com/cMYJhso.jpg

[Rader]

Well, judging by your butthurt and personalized response, you think generational culture is a significant force too.

You need to get over yourself, nothing about the millennials is significant, future generations will laugh at and mock them, for the few moments that they are even remembered.

[Pokesan]

Knowledge is possible, vacuous tl;drs are just easier

hth

[Patriam1066]

I'd like to thank the tax payers in this thread. I filed a claim with FEMA today

[Pokesan]

I'd like to thank the tax payers in this thread. I filed a claim with FEMA today

socialism!

[Swish]

its a fraud they did a launch from China.

there is no evidence to support a NK launch outside of what intelligence services have said.

China #1

[AzzarTheGod]

China #1

China wants a reason to take NK over by smooth transition but Kim Dong won't play ball. China can benefit by speeding things along.

The U.S. wants reunification with SK and capitalism installed.

A behind-the-scenes clash of wills that will go on for the next several decades, as both governments fight over what to do with the failed NK state.

Both agree its a failed state and action must be taken. Both want a different result to further their own economic interests or "national security interests" which are one and the same in America.

[AzzarTheGod]

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.

*daps hammer*

[mickmoranis]

Its going to be hilarious when us/china with the help of japan/sk and russia do to NK what bush thought he'd do with iraq and the sheer magnitude of trumps win results in a sold 2020 victory for our dear leader.

[rebeccablack]

Its going to be hilarious when us/china with the help of japan/sk and russia do to NK what bush thought he'd do with iraq and the sheer magnitude of trumps win results in a sold 2020 victory for our dear leader.
literally geopolitical fanfiction

[mickmoranis]

This is my best geopolitical fanfic

http://i.imgur.com/gZUx4IP.gif

http://i.imgur.com/sP8zZxe.png

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/44fe9ck.png

[Patriam1066]

http://i.imgur.com/44fe9ck.png

I don't get why trump is coming to Houston

Hope he brings a boat

[mickmoranis]

http://i.imgur.com/44fe9ck.png

Its a good thing you liberals have stooped to this level of political dialogue :rolleyes: #resistamiright

[Jarnauga]

Fascism is not about economics. At its core it's about segregation, if you don't agree that every human is created equal and deserve some basic rights, whatever his race, gender, religion, etc etc.. that's fascism. The rest is background noise.

That's actually funny to see trumpettes supporting marine le pen in france. Her economic program would be deemed way leftist to some people i here :D

[AzzarTheGod]

I don't get why trump is coming to Houston

Hope he brings a boat

The Guard should be moving very light small engine speed boats into the major areas.

Otherwise HoverCrafts make sense. I feel there will be fatalities if things don't start improving in the next few days as far as assistance goes. Many still stranded.

I feel Houston isn't really getting the help they need. I don't feel the hardware is there. I feel everyone is out of touch with the reality of the situation in Houston. Some large lifted trucks with monster tires are faring well in helping tow peoples smaller trucks and cars out of grass hills, but there are so many neighborhoods with 4.5 feet of water level with children that can't swim in it. And there are only a handful of monster trucks with nowhere to refuel quickly once they run out.

I mean Don Lemon had to take phone calls from Houston and broadcast addresses live on the air last night because there isn't any assistance for them.

Where are the executive orders now? Why doesn't he executive order some actual equipment that can help people instead of twiddling his thumbs like a cocksucker

Everything is under control according to the Fat King and a tweet can fix this whole mess.

And he will levitate above the carnage ala George Bush when he visited Katrina in his Air Force 1 Helicopter.

[mickmoranis]

liberal fake news bubble takes a step just a bit too far outside of their echo chamber (https://streamable.com/hgrl7)

[Pokesan]

Its a good thing you liberals have stooped to this level of political dialogue :rolleyes: #resistamiright

are you so deep down the reddit hole that noone can dislike trump/supporters without you memeing about it?

yes

they're bots tho so thanks for the bite

[Swish]

I don't get why trump is coming to Houston

Hope he brings a boat

It's like Teresa May (current stupid British PM) going to the Grenfell Tower fire location in London...

...well, kind of driving around the neighborhood and not talking to anyone, then leaving again...

Good job lol

[mickmoranis]

are you so deep down the reddit hole that noone can dislike trump/supporters without you memeing about it?

yes

they're bots tho so thanks for the bite

are you so deep down the libtard hole all you can do is make up fantastical personal attacks?

yes

[Pokesan]

are you so deep down the libtard hole all you can do is make up fantastical personal attacks?

yes

are you saying it's unfair to hold all magamans responsible for spreading the pizzagate/sethrich conspiracies?

[mickmoranis]

unfair is a word only libcucks use

[Domo]

unfair is a word only libcucks use

sounds like facebook philosophy o_O

[Raavak]

Libtards starting to use the term "whataboutism" when they get busted on their hypocrisy and dual standards.

example:
Libtard: Trump isn't empathetic enough about the plight of the Texans suffering from flooding! Just visiting Texas and making speeches. Where are the hugs?!
joe blow: What about Obama, he didn't even mention the BP oil spill for almost 2 weeks after it happened?
Libtard: That's just an whataboutism, you racist Nazi capitalist pig.

[Pokesan]

Libtards starting to use the term "whataboutism" when they get busted on their hypocrisy and dual standards.

example:
Libtard: Trump isn't empathetic enough about the plight of the Texans suffering from flooding! Just visiting Texas and making speeches. Where are the hugs?!
joe blow: What about Obama, he didn't even mention the BP oil spill for almost 2 weeks after it happened?
Libtard: That's just an whataboutism, you racist Nazi capitalist pig.

a fair criticism if a biased example. irrelevant objections aren't useful. redhats control all three branches but answer every criticism with crap like 'but Hillary's emails'. neither clinton or obama are president now and never will be. govern or get lost.

[Raavak]

a fair criticism if a biased example. irrelevant objections aren't useful. redhats control all three branches but answer every criticism with crap like 'but Hillary's emails'. neither clinton or obama are president now and never will be. govern or get lost.There are plenty of examples of differing standards being used for different people in the same positions. The same standards apply to all equally. There is never a "but...". This is logic. You can debate it, but you will lose points.

[Pokesan]

There are plenty of examples of differing standards being used for different people in the same positions. The same standards apply to all equally. There is never a "but...". This is logic. You can debate it, but you will lose points.

it sounds like you're complaining about fairness

[Raavak]

it sounds like you're complaining about fairness
Complaining is done for emotional reasons. I don't have emotions (autistic). I state reasoning.

Diversion is a debate tactic used invalidly when taking an indefensible position. Ad hominem.

[Pokesan]

Complaining is done for emotional reasons. I don't have emotions (autistic). I state reasoning.

Diversion is a debate tactic used invalidly when taking an indefensible position. Ad hominem.

if u wanna barf the dictionary at each other we can play that game. im just alliterally asking melon on a date anyway.

we can ride the bumper boats

[maskedmelon]

if u wanna barf the dictionary at each other we can play that game. im just alliterally asking melon on a date anyway.

we can ride the bumper boats

it certainly spoke to me (*^^*;) actually re-read that post a few times, no joke ^^;. it was a lovely use of language.

bumper boats sound fun :3

[Ahldagor]

if u wanna barf the dictionary at each other we can play that game. im just alliterally asking melon on a date anyway.

we can ride the bumper boats

You'll have to hurry because the flood waters are receeding quickly.

[mickmoranis]

it sounds like you're complaining about fairness

it sounds like you're saying whatabout

but I get it, liberals do this thing where they get dunked out of office, then try to use that technique to dunk back afterwords.

and whatabout her emails basically lost the election for their cuckadate in 2016 so they're trying to use it back at the right, as if conservitives about double standards. :eyeroll:

it doesnt ever work though, becuse they just dont understand 4d chess at all.

pay close attention, you'll see this.

Like, just look at their media outlets, theyve all mirrored fox news, in an attempt to try to unite the left.

Or another example is

[mickmoranis]

cofeve

*aghem* another example is..

Libs were getting wrecked arguing about politics when the right was telling them they were being anti patriotic when the left would bash bush.. so during the obama admin they tried to pull the same shit by saying the right was being anti patriotic by disparaging Obama.

It got em nowhere.

its like, the reason it doesnt work is cus a conservitive thinks with their wallet, but a liberal thinks with their feelings

So a liberal is easy to hurt because feelings hurt. But when they try to flip the tactics that are tried and true that work against them, its just pathetic because conservs just dont care. You cant hurt their feelings.

its just another example in the pile of "not good enough's" that make up the answer to "why do liberals always lose?"

[Ahldagor]

http://www.snopes.com/did-congress-pass-bill-warrantless-searches/


Yes, the authors of this bill did not consider the effects of language upon a populace. This is why you pay interns respectable wages, right?

[JurisDictum]

conservatives think with their dicks.

[mickmoranis]

this is the voice of the entire democratic party, white people who dont own their own homes and smoke weed all day and think that's what makes the world go round.

http://i.imgur.com/Tg2tbeK.jpg

[Pokesan]

no its not

take your meds

[Rader]

this is the voice of the entire democratic party, white people who dont own their own homes and smoke weed all day and think that's what makes the world go round.

http://i.imgur.com/Tg2tbeK.jpg

Libturds smoke dope in states where it is illegal, while hating states rights, and dreaming about when the federal government will make guns illegal because that will eliminate all gun violence.

[Patriam1066]

conservatives think with their dicks.

I'll admit to having this problem when I was younger

I'm not sure how this is an insult though plz advise Charlie sheen is my hero

[Rader]

conservatives think with their dicks.

At least conservatives have dicks.

[Pokesan]

magatard does something dumb

libcuck tells them its dumb

"so much for the tolerant left"

:rolleyes:

[brightlights]

no its not

take your meds

I liaterally get emails from diane finestine that support this shit and shes going to run for caifornia, get your facts straight you're gonna lose cus this is all CNN talks about: cucks like this chick and russian bots spreading rumors that peaceful antifa is violent

[Rader]

magatard does something dumb

libcuck tells them its dumb

"so much for the tolerant left"

:rolleyes:

And when Obuttmonkey F'd up and we pointed it out we were called racists, so what is your point?

[brightlights]

poke is trying to do what I said earlier where libcucks imitate the tequniques the right used when it dunked him so hard for the last 16 years, only as a propper liberal who has no clue what hes doing and hes just imitating the bottom 1% of republican online commenters and thinks its gonig to work.

poke, please at least try to be less predictable than the last episode of game of thrones.

[brightlights]

altho poke, much respect

theres only 1 of u left lol but you keep the forums interesting

[Pokesan]

poke is trying to do what I said earlier where libcucks imitate the tequniques the right used when it dunked him so hard for the last 16 years, only as a propper liberal who has no clue what hes doing and hes just imitating the bottom 1% of republican online commenters and thinks its gonig to work.

poke, please at least try to be less predictable than the last episode of game of thrones.

ive been posting obnoxiously longer than you've been out of diapers, bitch

[brightlights]

yeah I just said youve been getting dunked on for 16 years, do u read?

[Pokesan]

And when Obuttmonkey F'd up and we pointed it out we were called racists, so what is your point?

weird that you call the black guy a monkey but are surprised when people think you're racist

:confused:

[Rader]

weird that you call the black guy a monkey but are surprised when people think you're racist

:confused:

Typical libturd... I did not call him a monkey, I called him a BUTTmonkey. Big difference.

[Pokesan]

idk man pick a different word you're damaging your own cause

[brightlights]

if i had a cause it'd be praying for global thermo nuclear war

[brightlights]

Typical libturd... I did not call him a monkey, I called him a BUTTmonkey. Big difference.

yeah this guys got a point, buttmonkey is a common white american quloquilaism that racist libcucks assume is racist because theyre so hung up being racist and looking for race in everything that they think any word that is even close to a racist term IS racism

you got to stop trying to prove other people are racist, all youre doing is bringing back racisim.

speaking of not helping your cause :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Pokesan]

if i had a cause it'd be praying for global thermo nuclear war


yeah this guys got a point, buttmonkey is a common white american quloquilaism that racist libcucks assume is racist because theyre so hung up being racist and looking for race in everything that they think any word that is even close to a racist term IS racism

you got to stop trying to prove other people are racist, all youre doing is bringing back racisim.

speaking of not helping your cause :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

yeah yeah lefties the real racists, yawn im bored of that meme. buttpirate is the same word without stoking the burning cross.

my cause is vroom vroom & a fireworks fetish :cool:

[brightlights]

its true you point out racism every chance you get when most of the time you've got it wrong and there is no racism to be found, except for your racebating in order to feel like you're better than someone else.

you climb on the backs of minorities to pat your own.

[Pokesan]

its true you point out racism every chance you get when most of the time you've got it wrong and there is no racism to be found, except for your racebating in order to feel like you're better than someone else.

you climb on the backs of minorities to pat your own.

i said i was bored of that crap. post about nukes!!

[AzzarTheGod]

Libturds smoke dope in states where it is illegal, while hating states rights, and dreaming about when the federal government will make guns illegal because that will eliminate all gun violence.

solid dunks

[AzzarTheGod]

a delivery of fresh bands may be necessary to kill all this race talk

typically when bands are dropped on the thread the blast radius disintegrates whatever topic of discussion.

no discussion too serious, no berg too big to fail. they all fall down when the bands hit them on the back.

[Jarnauga]

Look at all these guys repeating "cuck" like it's the new wazzaaaa.. of course it was popularized by white supremacist richard spencer, but the left are the racists ;)

Fucking drones

[mickmoranis]

a delivery of fresh bands may be necessary to kill all this race talk

typically when bands are dropped on the thread the blast radius disintegrates whatever topic of discussion.

no discussion too serious, no berg too big to fail. they all fall down when the bands hit them on the back.

been waiting to repost this, but since all the racism is coming from the left, and the right wont petition people over petty shit I dont think we'll see any anytime soon.

http://i.imgur.com/VAe25VT.jpg

[Rader]

yeah yeah lefties the real racists, yawn im bored of that meme. buttpirate is the same word without stoking the burning cross.

my cause is vroom vroom & a fireworks fetish :cool:

Pirates are cool, monkeys are, well, monkeys. Therefore, a liberal is a buttmonkey. See, it has nothing to do with racism.

[mickmoranis]

https://www.civilized.life/articles/does-lsd-make-people-smarter/

liberals

[Xaanka]

yeah yeah lefties the real racists, yawn im bored of that meme. buttpirate is the same word without stoking the burning cross.

my cause is vroom vroom & a fireworks fetish :cool:

what kind of clownworld do we live in where saying monkey is equivalent to burning a cross?

it's a reference to primitive nature; we all evolved from monkeys no matter what your race is; if you manage to see race in that i hate to say it but you might be a racist :)

[Xaanka]

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/31/zuckerberg-group-700k-american-job-openings-daca-ends/

A study by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s open borders organization revealed that if an Obama-created amnesty program for young illegal aliens is ended, it would open nearly 700,000 American jobs.
Zuckerberg’s FWD.us group – a pro-immigration lobbying group – released the study with the intention to show the hardships of ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, where more than 850,000 young illegal aliens have been given temporary amnesty would have on the American economy.

The study unintentionally revealed how many more job opportunities American workers would have if President Trump were to repeal DACA, as he promised his supporters he would do.

According to the FWD.us study, if DACA is repealed it would mean potentially 700,000 American jobs could open up for American citizens.

The study claims that on average, if Trump were to repeal DACA, 30,000 American job opportunities would open up each month. FWD.us President Todd Schulte touted the results of the study as a loss for America’s business community, saying it would have “severe consequences” on the economy.

imagine getting dunked on this hard by your own focus group

http://freebeacon.com/issues/southern-poverty-law-center-transfers-millions-in-cash-to-offshore-entities/


Southern Poverty Law Center Transfers Millions in Cash to Offshore Entities

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a liberal, Alabama-based 501(c)(3) tax-exempt charitable organization that has gained prominence on the left for its "hate group" designations, pushes millions of dollars to offshore entities as part of its business dealings, records show.

Additionally, the nonprofit pays lucrative six-figure salaries to its top directors and key employees while spending little on legal services despite its stated intent of "fighting hate and bigotry" using litigation, education, and other forms of advocacy.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is perhaps best known for its "hate map," a collection of organizations the nonprofit deems "domestic hate groups" that lists mainstream conservative organizations alongside racist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and is often referenced in the media. A gunman opened fire at the Washington, D.C., offices of the conservative Family Research Council in 2012 after seeing it listed as an "anti-gay" group on SPLC's website.

ADVERTISING

The SPLC has turned into a fundraising powerhouse, recording more than $50 million in contributions and $328 million in net assets on its 2015 Form 990, the most recently available tax form from the nonprofit. SPLC's Form 990-T, its business income tax return, from the same year shows that they have "financial interests" in the Cayman Islands, British Virgin Islands, and Bermuda. No information is available beyond the acknowledgment of the interests at the bottom of the form.

However, the Washington Free Beacon discovered forms from 2014 that shed light on some of the Southern Poverty Law Center's transfers to foreign entities.

The SPLC's Form 8865, a Return of U.S. Persons With Respect to Certain Foreign Partnerships, from 2014 shows that the nonprofit transferred hundreds of thousands to an account located in the Cayman Islands.

SPLC lists Tiger Global Management LLC, a New York-based private equity financial firm, as an agent on its form. The form shows a foreign partnership between the SPLC and Tiger Global Private Investment Partners IX, L.P., a pooled investment fund in the Cayman Islands. SPLC transferred $960,000 in cash on Nov. 24, 2014 to Tiger Global Private Investment Partners IX, L.P, its records show.

The SPLC's Form 926, a Return by a U.S. Transferor of Property to a Foreign Corporation, from 2014 shows additional cash transactions that the nonprofit had sent to offshore funds.

The SPLC reported a $102,007 cash transfer on Dec. 24, 2014 to BPV-III Cayman X Limited, a foreign entity located in the Cayman Islands. The group then sent $157,574 in cash to BPV-III Cayman XI Limited on Dec. 31, 2014, an entity that lists the same PO Box address in Grand Cayman as the previous transfer.

The nonprofit pushed millions more into offshore funds at the beginning of 2015.

On March 1, 2015, SPLC sent $2,200,000 to an entity incorporated in Canana Bay, Cayman Islands, according to Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) records and run by a firm firm based in Greenwich, Ct. Another $2,200,000 cash transfer was made on the same day to another fund whose business is located at the same address as the previous fund in the Cayman Islands, according to SEC records.

No information is contained on its interests in Bermuda on the 2014 forms. SPLC's financial stakes in the British Virgin Islands were not acknowledged until its 2015 tax form.

Lucinda Chappelle, a principal at Jackson Thornton, the public accounting firm in Montgomery, Ala., that prepared the SPLC's tax forms, said she does not discuss client matters and hung up the phone when the Free Beacon contacted her in an attempt to get the most updated forms from the group in relation to its foreign business dealings.

Tax experts expressed confusion when being told of the transfer.

"I've never known a US-based nonprofit dealing in human rights or social services to have any foreign bank accounts," said Amy Sterling Casil, CEO of Pacific Human Capital, a California-based nonprofit consulting firm. "My impression based on prior interactions is that they have a small, modestly paid staff, and were regarded by most in the industry as frugal and reliable. I am stunned to learn of transfers of millions to offshore bank accounts. It is a huge red flag and would have been completely unacceptable to any wealthy, responsible, experienced board member who was committed to a charitable mission who I ever worked with."

"It is unethical for any US-based charity to invest large sums of money overseas," said Casil. "I know of no legitimate reason for any US-based nonprofit to put money in overseas, unregulated bank accounts."

"It seems extremely unusual for a ‘501(c)(3)' concentrating upon reducing poverty in the American South to have multiple bank accounts in tax haven nations," Charles Ortel, a former Wall Street analyst and financial advisor who helped uncover a 2009 financial scandal at General Electric, told the Free Beacon.

The nonprofit also pays lucrative salaries to its top leadership.

Richard Cohen, president and chief executive officer of the SPLC, was given $346,218 in base compensation in 2015, its tax forms show. Cohen received $20,000 more in other reportable compensation and non-taxable benefits. Morris Dees, SPLC's chief trial counsel, received a salary of $329,560 with $42,000 in additional reportable compensation and non-taxable benefits.

The minimum amount paid to an officer, director, trustee, or key employee in 2015 was $140,000 in base salary, not including other compensation. The group spent $20 million on salaries throughout the year.

The SPLC, which claims to boast a staff of 75 lawyers who practice in the area of children's rights, economic justice, immigrant justice, LGBT rights, and criminal justice reform, reported spending only $61,000 on legal services in 2015.

Following recent violence in Charlottesville, Va., the group raised a great deal of money.

Apple CEO Tim Cook told his employees that the company is donating $1 million to the SPLC and would match employee contributions two to one. Cook also placed an SPLC donation button in its iTunes store. The company is additionally providing a $1 million donation to the Anti-Defamation League.

J.P Morgan Chase vowed to add a $500,000 donation for the group's "work in tracking, exposing, and fighting hate groups and other extremist organizations."

The Washington Times reported that CNN ran a wire story following the Charlottesville events originally titled, "Here are all the active hate groups where you live" using SPLC's list of 917 groups.

Brad Dacus, the president of the Pacific Justice Institute, a Sacramento-based group that defends "religious freedom, parental rights, and other civil liberties without charge," was listed on the "hate groups" list.

"Why is the Southern Poverty Law Center doing this? It's simple. They want to vilify and isolate anyone that doesn't agree with their very extremist leftist policy and ideology," Dacus told the Times. "This isn't about defending civil rights; this is about attacking civil rights."

"I am shocked that CNN would publish such a false report on the heels of the Charlottesville tragedy," added Mat Staver, the founder of Liberty Counsel, a Christian nonprofit that provides pro bono assistance and representation, which is also featured on SPLC's list. "To lump peaceful Christian organizations, which condemn violence and racism, in with the KKK, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists is offensive. This is the epitome of fake news and is why people no longer trust the media."

CNN later changed its headline to, "The Southern Poverty Law Center's list of hate groups."

"The SPLC is an anti-conservative, anti-Christian hate group that the media have given pretend legitimacy to. One glance at their 990 tax forms is a reminder just what a fund-raising super-power it is," Dan Gainor, vice president of Business and Culture at the Media Research Center, told the Free Beacon. "Its assets are over $328 million in 2015 and went up $13 million in just one year. It doesn't need new liberal money. It could operate for at least six years and never raise a penny. It's like a perpetual motion machine for fundraisers."

The SPLC has also been hit with a number of lawsuits over "hate" defamation claims in recent days.

The Southern Poverty Law Center did not return a request for comment on its foreign financial dealings by press time.

[Pokesan]

what kind of clownworld do we live in where saying monkey is equivalent to burning a cross?

it's a reference to primitive nature; we all evolved from monkeys no matter what your race is; if you manage to see race in that i hate to say it but you might be a racist :)

to stoke is to add fuel to, not start outright. as an additional exercise in improving your language skills i have pm'd you three examples of 'monkey' used as a racial slur. words have meaning beyond your personal headcanon.

[Xaanka]

words have meaning beyond your personal headcanon.

my point exactly

and even if it is offensive, i have no issue with anybody saying any offensive thing they want so long as it doesn't cross the line to a direct credible threat etc.

[mickmoranis]

if you say anyone who says monkey is saying a racist term, especially in the phrase buttmonkey, then it is YOU that is the racist, because you are applying the connotation that monkey's are ________ race.

Seriously, the people bringing racism back are the liberals, not the nazi's

"I know what he means" they say when they hear a alt right person talking about something.

no, what you know is what YOU think about race relations based on YOUR racism that you hide under shaming other people.

Go to a blue state, mexicans stay in the mexican neighborhood and black people stay in the black neighborhoods.

go to the red states, its all mixed together.

Yall liberals are some racist mother fuckers. You all know it to... You call it privilege... Privilege to work in tech, not work on highway maintenance at 2am... So its time to stop calling other people racist as your penitence.

[Xaanka]

if you want to see lefties racist conscience without a filter on it ask them what they think about white people

it's accepted among them to be openly racist toward whites, so you can see how they really think by raising the topic.

[Lojik]

I don't think i want to know how that PoM armor set is made

[Pokesan]

somehow you are turning "don't call a black guy a monkey" into "saying the word monkey ever in any context is racist"

grow up

[mickmoranis]

somehow you are turning "don't call a black guy a monkey" into "saying the word monkey ever in any context is racist"

grow up

when you're at the zoo

and you see a kid go "look at the monkey!"

and you're standing next to a black guy AND a monkey exhibit

and you say

"DONT call the BLACK GUY a monkey, kid!"

YOU'RE the racist.

[Raavak]

The leftists still generally hate minorities. Just look at Hillary slipping with her racist jokes.

Pre-1968 leftists: minorities are a lower "caste" and need to be treated special, and not have the same rights, but less because they are less than equal.

Post-1968 leftists: minorities are a lower "caste" and need to be treated special, and not have the same rights, but more to make them equal.

Modern leftists are unable to see a person as a person, and therefore do not truly understand equality of the individual, nor individual rights.

[Pokesan]

when you're at the zoo

and you see a kid go "look at the monkey!"

and you're standing next to a black guy AND a monkey exhibit

and you say

"DONT call the BLACK GUY a monkey, kid!"

YOU'RE the racist.

when did this happen?

[mickmoranis]

when did this happen?

weird that you call the black guy a monkey but are surprised when people think you're racist

:confused:

Typical libturd... I did not call him a monkey, I called him a BUTTmonkey. Big difference.

BUSTED POKE, YOU'RE A RACIST UNDER ALL THAT BACK PATTING YOU GIVE YOURSELF

http://i.imgur.com/E6ls3Pr.gif

[Pokesan]

BUSTED POKE, YOU'RE A RACIST UNDER ALL THAT BACK PATTING YOU GIVE YOURSELF

http://i.imgur.com/E6ls3Pr.gif

nice meltdown

[mickmoranis]

reported for racism, poke.

http://i.imgur.com/hMJ48CD.gif

[Xaanka]

somehow you are turning "don't call a black guy a monkey" into "saying the word monkey ever in any context is racist"

grow up

"Discarded Banana Peel Causes Racial Hysteria at Ole Miss"

https://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2017/08/30/discarded-banana-peel-causes-racial-hysteria-at-ole-miss-n2375376

kinda reminds me of that libtard lady who got stoned to death for pulling a quran out of the trash because people thought she threw it in there herself :)

[fash]

Stop counter-signalling racism. Everyone is racist, and it's natural. People socialize with their own kind when left to their own.

EQ is a game that glorifies racism, and you nerds are here on an EQ forum.

[Xaanka]

when you're at the zoo

and you see a kid go "look at the monkey!"

and you're standing next to a black guy AND a monkey exhibit

and you say

"DONT call the BLACK GUY a monkey, kid!"

YOU'RE the racist.

my boyfriend took me to the zoo the other day, i asked if it was racist to be keeping the monkeys behind glass :)

[Pokesan]

i mean yeah if you divorce words from cultural context they become abstract and meaningless

is this an artistic thing?

[Xaanka]

i mean yeah if you divorce words from cultural context they become abstract and meaningless

is this an artistic thing?

maybe, just MAYBE somebody was using a word with its original meaning and intent, like fuck how do you not see how hard you're destroying your own argument here?

[maskedmelonpai]

what a buttmonkey? i don't wanna ask google that. can someone please splain it?

[Pokesan]

maybe, just MAYBE somebody was using a word with its original meaning and intent, like fuck how do you not see how hard you're destroying your own argument here?

i moved on from engaging the circlejerk. im on a new game now ;)

[mickmoranis]

what a buttmonkey? i don't wanna ask google that. can someone please splain it?

just an old slang from the schoolyard to make fun of people that like to buttfuck each other from the 1980's... I mean techincally if you were a liberal and wanted to apply a swath of cultural stereotypes to it, you could say its a gay slur.

[Lune]

Stop counter-signalling racism. Everyone is racist, and it's natural. People socialize with their own kind when left to their own.

EQ is a game that glorifies racism, and you nerds are here on an EQ forum.

Symptoms of clinical retardation in this post get yourself checked by a qualified medical practitioner fam

[fash]

90% of people have racial dating preferences. 80% of synagogues, churches, mosques, etc self-segregate (where they have no government coercion to do otherwise). 70% of NBA is black. Babies naturally have preference for parent's race. This is called racism today.

Everyone is racist by today's definition. The time to play semantic games has passed. Unless you're a lunatic who refuses to see human diversity, embrace the term and simply say you're openly racist.

[mickmoranis]

"no fatties"

"MYSOGONYST!

...no shorties tho"

[Ahldagor]

Kill 'em with kindness.

[mickmoranis]

http://i.imgur.com/z4FetSK.png

Sitting here watching Red Sonja and thinking, Jesus Christ feminists, they made a fucking female Conan movie for you and here you are 20 years later crying about a lack of representation.

Oh I'm sorry is it her skimpy armor that oppresses you?

I forgot how much Arnold wore.

http://i.imgur.com/VznnA0M.jpg

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/z4FetSK.png

Sitting here watching Red Sonja and thinking, Jesus Christ feminists, they made a fucking female Conan movie for you and here you are 20 years later crying about a lack of representation.

Oh I'm sorry is it her skimpy armor that oppresses you?

I forgot how much Arnold wore.

http://i.imgur.com/VznnA0M.jpg

i agree the hollywood movie solved all the concerns of feminism in perpuity

[JurisDictum]

That is one hot guy - can't stop staring at his chest.

[Patriam1066]

That is one hot guy - can't stop staring at his chest.

[AzzarTheGod]

i agree the hollywood movie solved all the concerns of feminism in perpuity

lmao

[mickmoranis]

Xi Jinping says a dark shadow looms over the world after years of peace (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/xi-jinping-dark-shadow-north-korea-nuclear-test-chinese-brics)

https://i.imgur.com/TB0x7TF.gif

[chadtwoke]

Xi Jinping says a dark shadow looms over the world after years of peace (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/xi-jinping-dark-shadow-north-korea-nuclear-test-chinese-brics)

https://i.imgur.com/TB0x7TF.gif

More drummed up propaganda. Man the news agencies aren't even trying anymore.

"Breaking from CNN, President Donald J Trump makes his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with the jelly on FIRST, and the peanut butter SECOND!!!. More at 11."

[mickmoranis]

^^ this guy subs to r/worldnews

[mickmoranis]

How to stop north korea's only current ability to stop an invasion, invented in 2002. (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3022-laser-weapon-destroys-artillery-fire/)

The time for piece is over.

we must end north korea and use this system to protect south korea

I prey for ww3 because the current generation must be culled. The generation of piece has only brought us more unrest and a decline in society and values.

[mickmoranis]

and if you feel gulity about seol being leveled fuck them theyre too cheep to even try to pay for precautions and so fuck em (http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/04/09/why-doesnt-seoul-have-iron-dome/)

[Pokesan]

Xi Jinping says a dark shadow looms over the world after years of peace (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/xi-jinping-dark-shadow-north-korea-nuclear-test-chinese-brics)

https://i.imgur.com/TB0x7TF.gif

Let the earth be bathed in Eternal Light in Oppenheimer's name AMEN!

[AzzarTheGod]

How to stop north korea's only current ability to stop an invasion, invented in 2002. (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3022-laser-weapon-destroys-artillery-fire/)

The time for piece is over.

we must end north korea and use this system to protect south korea

I prey for ww3 because the current generation must be culled. The generation of piece has only brought us more unrest and a decline in society and values.

pretty woke kid

we do need a war to purge some of these kids born from 1995 to 2005

our laser technology still hasnt had any major breakthroughs afaik its huge its clunky and requires massive amounts of power. The duty cycle of a laser that powerful are highly questionable as well.

sure it can stop 1 artillery in a test. but the duty cycle is probably 30 seconds of on-time before the safety shuts it off. the duty cycle of these lasers needs to be something very significant while maintaining maximum effective power. I believe that is impossible with current tech and thats why you never heard about this shit again.

[mickmoranis]

eh 14 year old tech, also there is the iron dome from isreal (that we payed for :rolleyes: ) that SK is too cheap to pay for.

Seems like if they really wanted to negate NK's ability to destroy them, they've had plenty of time to create a viable defense system but they just dont seem to care.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/04/09/why-doesnt-seoul-have-iron-dome/

If they dont care about the lives holocaust levels of starvation in the north, then screw em.

Anyway, who knows if ww3 is possible, i doubt it. But a man can hope and hope and hope.

[AzzarTheGod]

eh 14 year old tech, also there is the iron dome from isreal (that we payed for :rolleyes: ) that SK is too cheap to pay for.

Seems like if they really wanted to negate NK's ability to destroy them, they've had plenty of time to create a viable defense system but they just dont seem to care.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/04/09/why-doesnt-seoul-have-iron-dome/

If they dont care about the lives holocaust levels of starvation in the north, then screw em.

Anyway, who knows if ww3 is possible, i doubt it. But a man can hope and hope and hope.



there is an argument between the US interest and the Chinese interest.

They are both afraid to destabilize the region due to South Korea's success, as well as China's relative success.

Its about the ideology of communism itself. Go ask Putin regarding the fall of communism in Russia and the rise of the Orthodox Church. He explains it perfectly. When communism dies, it leaves a tremendous vacuum. Russia was very fortunate to recover from such a change, and he credits the Orthodox Church for filling the vacuum.

Both China and the US are fearful of what the NK vacuum looks like after regime change. The threat of a failed state is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways. Libya and to a lesser extent Egypt are prime examples.

The Good Folks are desperately fighting against regime change in Syria because we have seen what happens when you create vacuums with unlegit forced transfers of power. Kim Dong needs to step down on his own and usher his country into a new way of life ala the Soviet Union. Military change in NK will only result in very bad things happening.

[mickmoranis]

very bad things happening is exactly what I prey for every night and based on the continued downward spiral of our happiness in developed nations, security, and social intelligence I think its only a mater of time.

[Jarnauga]

More drummed up propaganda. Man the news agencies aren't even trying anymore.

"Breaking from CNN, President Donald J Trump makes his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with the jelly on FIRST, and the peanut butter SECOND!!!. More at 11."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE

[AzzarTheGod]

very bad things happening is exactly what I prey for every night and based on the continued downward spiral of our happiness in developed nations, security, and social intelligence I think its only a mater of time.

*daps hammer* i can dig it bb

there does need to be some kind of wake up call on identity politics when economic decline is so obvious as well as American Oligarchy on Wallstreet controlling large swathes of corporate behaviors and profit-sharing being a thing of the distant past.

[Patriam1066]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE

LOL I'm actually glad I clicked

You actually have a point there, that was some petty "reporting"

[brightlights]

one vs all the others :rollseyes:

[mickmoranis]

#CheckYourFemalePrivilege
(https://youtu.be/OQ2fREo3Tjc)

https://i.imgur.com/KY8GUTS.png

[chadtwoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE

Well there's my fucking point.

[AzzarTheGod]

LOL I'm actually glad I clicked

You actually have a point there, that was some petty "reporting"

Lmao

[chadtwoke]

LOL I'm actually glad I clicked

You actually have a point there, that was some petty "reporting"

Now compare that with what is being reported on Trump on a daily basis, and you'll not find much difference.

[mickmoranis]

The major difference is, 100% of the left think that their side is real news, while only 10% of the right watch fox news.

[AzzarTheGod]

im hittin licks watch the trunk do trix

[JurisDictum]

there is an argument between the US interest and the Chinese interest.

They are both afraid to destabilize the region due to South Korea's success, as well as China's relative success.

Its about the ideology of communism itself. Go ask Putin regarding the fall of communism in Russia and the rise of the Orthodox Church. He explains it perfectly. When communism dies, it leaves a tremendous vacuum. Russia was very fortunate to recover from such a change, and he credits the Orthodox Church for filling the vacuum.

Both China and the US are fearful of what the NK vacuum looks like after regime change. The threat of a failed state is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways. Libya and to a lesser extent Egypt are prime examples.

The Good Folks are desperately fighting against regime change in Syria because we have seen what happens when you create vacuums with unlegit forced transfers of power. Kim Dong needs to step down on his own and usher his country into a new way of life ala the Soviet Union. Military change in NK will only result in very bad things happening.

We have seen this exact thing in the past, however, with West and East Germany. Two states that have people with a shared identity and common history do a lot better merging than creating a new regime for the state out of whole cloth. If we were planning to simply take over Korea and set up a democracy -- no one would be taking any of this shit seriously -- that's a terrible idea. But we are basically just letting South Korea expand and Become one country with North Korea.

I'm not saying it would be easy for the Koreans -- but it shouldn't break our bank anymore than it did with Germany. Other security concerns related to China might scare us off course though. Especially since we aren't dealing with a particularly patient or passive premier right now in China. Unlike the United States however, 1 persons opinion only gets so far in China.

[AzzarTheGod]

We have seen this exact thing in the past, however, with West and East Germany. Two states that have people with a shared identity and common history do a lot better merging than creating a new regime for the state out of whole cloth. If we were planning to simply take over Korea and set up a democracy -- no one would be taking any of this shit seriously -- that's a terrible idea. But we are basically just letting South Korea expand and Become one country with North Korea.

I'm not saying it would be easy for the Koreans -- but it shouldn't break our bank anymore than it did with Germany. Other security concerns related to China might scare us off course though. Especially since we aren't dealing with a particularly patient or passive premier right now in China. Unlike the United States however, 1 persons opinion only gets so far in China.

woke. the East-West German situation is a really great model. You had Russia (China), you had the US/Global interest, you had the desired transition of power occurring very late after the failure of the state. also had the same political paradigm involved.

we are indeed dealing with a modern china who wouldn't hestitate to cyberfuck us. And contrary to popular belief, the Iranian government proved you can do cyber attacks on critical infrastructure, cause damage to the entire country, and not have any repercussion.

People keep thinking about these physical weapons and that simply is not the threat China presents if relations sour. They can cause havoc that is technically untraceable to the country which committed the act, as the Iranian attacks proved under 0bama.

[Pokesan]

north korea is much further behind their neighbors and the world in education infrastructure and basic nutrition than soviet Germany ever was

if korea unified tomorrow the 2008 crash would be a sunny afternoon in comparison

[Raavak]

New book, "The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left" (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Lie-Exposing-Roots-American/dp/1621573486), get it now before its sold out.

Goldberg also covered similar material in Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change (https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189).

[JurisDictum]

New book, "The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left" (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Lie-Exposing-Roots-American/dp/1621573486), get it now before its sold out.

Goldberg also covered similar material in Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change (https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189).

"contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.

So the person writing the review clearly has no fucking idea what a socialist is. I don't read books written by people too stupid to see the difference between Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt.

[Raavak]

"Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt" were all socialists, though Roosevelt didn't force it upon a nation like the other two. Stalin was a globalist socialist, Hitler a nationalist socialist (what Nazi means), and Roosevelt was along the lines of a nationalist socialist, though that is an extremely long discussion. Their "sins", if you will, were somewhat unrelated to their political stances.

Both Dinesh D'Souza and Jonah Goldberg are highly respected among their peers, both on the left and the right. If you've got a higher degree, in journalism or politics especially, you undoubtedly have heard of both of these men. Snowflakes tend to hate them and call them stupid and racist, etc which makes for a good litmus test of political intelligence.

You can find really interesting debate by left wing ideologues on the several stances both these books take. In addition, these two pundits/philosphers are well published writers, though most their work is over the average person's head.

[Pokesan]

dinesh dsouza is trash

[mickmoranis]

https://twitter.com/SusanSarandon/status/904760869741105153

look at the democrats they would rather blame someone so they can pat themselves on their back than solve the problem that caused it to happen.

Fix dnc? Naw

blame an actress? YEP!

-all democrats.

[maskedmelonpai]

the thing i like most about mick is beneath all the layers of satire and intentional grammatical perversions are a trove of shining truths. they maybe on one side the fence or the other, directly beneath or off to the side, but always they obvious and nearby.

[JurisDictum]

"Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt" were all socialists, though Roosevelt didn't force it upon a nation like the other two. Stalin was a globalist socialist, Hitler a nationalist socialist (what Nazi means), and Roosevelt was along the lines of a nationalist socialist, though that is an extremely long discussion. Their "sins", if you will, were somewhat unrelated to their political stances.

Both Dinesh D'Souza and Jonah Goldberg are highly respected among their peers, both on the left and the right. If you've got a higher degree, in journalism or politics especially, you undoubtedly have heard of both of these men. Snowflakes tend to hate them and call them stupid and racist, etc which makes for a good litmus test of political intelligence.

You can find really interesting debate by left wing ideologues on the several stances both these books take. In addition, these two pundits/philosphers are well published writers, though most their work is over the average person's head.

Political intelligence like reducing extremely complex theories down to "free market" and "socialist" black/white retard-friendly worldview. They are "highly respected" by paid promoters. This is the best they can do. The guy took money to argue he can prove God exists -- he'll take money to say just about anything.

Theory matters. You can't prove two theories are the same by pointing out capitalist, socialist and fascist governments sometimes act the same. To do this -- you have to actually point out where the theories are similar. Even if their are similarities between fascism in Germany and communism in Russia -- it doesn't magically make two historically independent theories the same.

All forms of government seek global involvement. Isolationism is for no-nothings that think because they don't understand how world trade and national defense work and think were better off without it. This doesn't make every government that engages in UN a fucking socialist country. Socialism is a body of political theory about sharing resources and treating people equally. If you theory is Germans are the master race and we need to establish a military empire that lasts 1000 years -- your theory isn't socialist anymore.

Labels are as useful as they are distinct. If we used political theory labels the way you did -- they would be useless. If you think all these political theories are bullshit -- and that the truth of the world is Capitalism vs Socialism (with 1800s America being the only Capitalist country in your view I guess) -- your still wrong about Socialism being the same as fascism because the theories would be wrong in different ways.

[mickmoranis]

the thing i like most about mick is beneath all the layers of satire and intentional grammatical perversions are a trove of shining truths. they maybe on one side the fence or the other, directly beneath or off to the side, but always they obvious and nearby.

sometimes im pretty sure teh spelling its not intentional :(

but thank u for understanding me more than my own mother <3 love u bb

[Xaanka]

pretty woke kid

we do need a war to purge some of these kids born from 1995 to 2005

our laser technology still hasnt had any major breakthroughs afaik its huge its clunky and requires massive amounts of power. The duty cycle of a laser that powerful are highly questionable as well.

sure it can stop 1 artillery in a test. but the duty cycle is probably 30 seconds of on-time before the safety shuts it off. the duty cycle of these lasers needs to be something very significant while maintaining maximum effective power. I believe that is impossible with current tech and thats why you never heard about this shit again.


old post but mil tech is decades beyond what is ever revealed to the public or used. the drones we're currently using have been around since the late 1980's and possibly earlier. that's before the public had operating systems with graphical user interfaces.

[brightlights]

Another corporation to spend 1 billion to fight climate change, in the same news: TRUMP is right again but liberals #resist and want to raise taxes to pay for gov officials to "investigate" climate change, make poor people pay for it and say they're trying to fight for the little guy :eyeroll:

http://www.businessinsider.com/mars-climate-change-investment-global-warming-sustainability-plan-greenhouse-gas-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

[mickmoranis]

Another corporation to spend 1 billion to fight climate change, in the same news: TRUMP is right again but liberals #resist and want to raise taxes to pay for gov officials to "investigate" climate change, make poor people pay for it and say they're trying to fight for the little guy :eyeroll:

http://www.businessinsider.com/mars-climate-change-investment-global-warming-sustainability-plan-greenhouse-gas-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

Millionaire's hate him, because he makes them pick up the tab:

http://www.etonline.com/jimmy-fallon-announces-tonight-show-1-million-donation-hurricane-harvey-relief-efforts-86673

[JurisDictum]

15% corporate tax is a good idea...but only if it isn't going to reduce government revenue (meaning it has to be offset by closing loopholes and raising income tax on the most wealthy). Corporate tax is taxing a company instead of the rich -- its stupid. Companies don't need to pay back to society (unless it is directly to compensate for environmental damage) -- those that benefit the most from Corporations owe the debt themselves. They should not be able to put it on the corporate expense account.

Of course Trump is reducing Taxes on the wealthy because he is a fraud and a elitist bourgeois no-nothing.

Edit: IMO -- it should be a long term plan of every socialist to lower business tax and raise personal income tax (including investment income -- perhaps a higher rate for passive income). Corporate tax raises prices and lowers wages...its not a progressive thing to support big corporate tax.

[AzzarTheGod]

old post but mil tech is decades beyond what is ever revealed to the public or used. the drones we're currently using have been around since the late 1980's and possibly earlier. that's before the public had operating systems with graphical user interfaces.

aint nothing old about us dawg.

ur rite tho, we actually have NO KNOWLEDGE of the current laser weapon systems that are currently aboard some of our destroyers. its all classified. we do know certain destroyers have a laser mounted on the deck of the ship.

You are right in pointing out my post was just an assumption based on what the public knows. The fact is, the public hasn't been given any information on why laser weapon systems are aboard destroyers, or what the specifications of the laser weapon system are as far as power, duty cycle, and tracking capability.


*daps hammer*

[JurisDictum]

Lol -- this video of a Woman pulling a gun over a school notebook is hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ND6WsiAYs

My favorite part is how awkward, uninvolved and shocked the black young man looks during the whole exchange. Like he's thinking: "grandma not again please!"

They arrested all 4 women to be PC...but I think we can all tell who was in the right here, that bitch wouldn't let go of her granddaughter. D.C. Democrats might use it as another opportunity to try to bring up guns -- anything to keep the topic off how the DNC is a corrupt organization that stole the Primary from Bernie Sanders and is only there to water down any socialist ideas that come up.

[AzzarTheGod]

Lol -- this video of a Woman pulling a gun over a school notebook is hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ND6WsiAYs

My favorite part is how awkward, uninvolved and shocked the black young man looks during the whole exchange. Like he's thinking: "grandma not again please!"

They arrested all 4 women to be PC...but I think we can all tell who was in the right here, that bitch wouldn't let go of her granddaughter. D.C. Democrats might use it as another opportunity to try to bring up guns -- anything to keep the topic off how the DNC is a corrupt organization that stole the Primary from Bernie Sanders and is only there to water down any socialist ideas that come up.

Yeah this is going to be used as CCW is bad propaganda.

[mickmoranis]

Edit: IMO -- it should be a long term plan of every socialist to lower business tax and raise personal income tax (including investment income -- perhaps a higher rate for passive income). Corporate tax raises prices and lowers wages...its not a progressive thing to support big corporate tax.

this is why socialism is dumb "help the poor by taking all their money"

I wonder why the left plays the race card? Because its the only way they can get minorities to vote for them, because democrats offer no assistance beyond words.

[mickmoranis]

https://youtu.be/Cyq6fTYxztc

[JurisDictum]

https://youtu.be/Cyq6fTYxztc

She has nice hair....kind of looks a bit culturally appropriated though.

[JurisDictum]

this is why socialism is dumb "help the poor by taking all their money"

I wonder why the left plays the race card? Because its the only way they can get minorities to vote for them, because democrats offer no assistance beyond words.

This is why Republican poor people are dumb. They see that working class people get much more spending power in Socialist countries right now -- even though they have less money as a nation overall. In yet they are convinced by some D.C. think tank or corporate media outlet that the system named after Capital (which they don't own) will somehow work out better for them. It's not.

And that's why they talk about race stuff. They don't have to in general....this isn't even political most the time but social. Every time the economy comes up its all about gay rights, BLM etc...not because democrats couldn't do a populist platform...but because rich democrats don't want them to. The DNC is almost baseless, they have almost no support by regular people. The only thing they have is wealthy donors and the strategic position of historically being able to pick the Democratic nominee. But I think real conflict is coming over the next primary in the DNC...no one is going to like the DNC pick.

[Lune]

This is why Republican poor people are dumb. They see that working class people get much more spending power in Socialist countries right now -- even though they have less money as a nation overall. In yet they are convinced by some D.C. think tank or corporate media outlet that the system named after Capital (which they don't own) will somehow work out better for them. It's not.

And that's why they talk about race stuff. They don't have to in general....this isn't even political most the time but social. Every time the economy comes up its all about gay rights, BLM etc...not because democrats couldn't do a populist platform...but because rich democrats don't want them to. The DNC is almost baseless, they have almost no support by regular people. The only thing they have is wealthy donors and the strategic position of historically being able to pick the Democratic nominee. But I think real conflict is coming over the next primary in the DNC...no one is going to like the DNC pick.

In her new book, Clinton blamed Bernie Sanders for "copying her policies", "making unrealistic promises", and "purposefully disrupting the Democratic party". I'm so happy that fucking cunt isn't president. (But not as happy as I am sad that Trump is)

Expect more of the same in 2020 though.

[mickmoranis]

In her new book, Clinton blamed Bernie Sanders for "copying her policies", "making unrealistic promises", and "purposefully disrupting the Democratic party". I'm so happy that fucking cunt isn't president. (But not as happy as I am sad that Trump is)

Expect more of the same in 2020 though.

glad she spent the last 7 months writing a book for personal gain rather than working on healthcare reform like bernie standers has been.

[Rader]

This is why Republican poor people are dumb. They see that working class people get much more spending power in Socialist countries right now -- even though they have less money as a nation overall. In yet they are convinced by some D.C. think tank or corporate media outlet that the system named after Capital (which they don't own) will somehow work out better for them. It's not.

And that's why they talk about race stuff. They don't have to in general....this isn't even political most the time but social. Every time the economy comes up its all about gay rights, BLM etc...not because democrats couldn't do a populist platform...but because rich democrats don't want them to. The DNC is almost baseless, they have almost no support by regular people. The only thing they have is wealthy donors and the strategic position of historically being able to pick the Democratic nominee. But I think real conflict is coming over the next primary in the DNC...no one is going to like the DNC pick.

You can make the same point about Democrat poor people. They keep voting democrat, and they are no better off now than they were fifty years ago. The only people who get rich from Democratic government control are politicians lawyers lobbyists and bureaucrats.

[mickmoranis]

This is why Republican poor people are dumb. They see that working class people get much more spending power in Socialist countries right now -- even though they have less money as a nation overall.

uh what? american middle class are the greatest over spenders on earth. Are you talking about danish socialist countries where the goverment sells oil and gives that money to their tiny population, simmilar to the concept of reperations?

Becuse if so that is by no means an economic model as well as it is ironically contrary to every value an american socialist holds dear regarding the environment.

[JurisDictum]

You can make the same point about Democrat poor people. They keep voting democrat, and they are no better off now than they were fifty years ago. The only people who get rich from Democratic government control are politicians lawyers lobbyists and bureaucrats.

Most of that started with Bill Clinton. Clinton decided the "new" democrats needed to be corrupt lobbyists on the dole from billionaire donors. Roosevelt did a bit of that and all...but it was 3 guys...who cares if 3 billionaires are making way too much money...now its like god damn 2000+ and the gap is even more massive than it ever ways.

IDK if Clinton realized this fully or not. That it would basically be the undoing of populism if you routinely side with billionaires. I think he and wife honestly thought that this wouldn't get as bad as it is now. But I also think they stopped giving a shit sometime before Bill entered the white house.

[maskedmelon]

How does government funded healthcare benefit humanity? Aside from attracting those who cannot afford healthcare and subsidizing the existence of lesser efficient conditions, what does it do? How is it morally acceptable to ignore our collective interest while placating one's own conscience with the squandering resources on inefficiencies nature would otherwise cull from mankind?

We can shower it with all the praises we might like to claim as our own, but it is fundamentally immoral. It is a betrayal of self and of mankind. If ever we reach a point wherein we are each so well groomed that not one among us is more competent than another and all share equally in social investment and return, then let us have it, but until that time it is reprehensible :c

[JurisDictum]

uh what? american middle class are the greatest over spenders on earth. Are you talking about danish socialist countries where the goverment sells oil and gives that money to their tiny population, simmilar to the concept of reperations?

Because if so that is by no means an economic model as well as it is ironically contrary to every value an American socialist holds dear regarding the environment.

Oil is mostly in Norway. and so the fuck what? I don't know if you realize this, but we got a lot of natural resources of our own including oil. Making Alaskan oil pay the population works out great BTW -- really popular successful etc..but why would you want to do that as an oil company if you can just get some clown to appoint Rex Tillerson?

Socialists TBH -- don't prioritize the environment as much as Hilary Clinton types do. And I mean politically. None of those god damn people actually care enough about the environment to lower their carbon footprint or propose policies that would.

Environment needs to come after wealth inequality...because you can't expect broke people to give a shit -- sorry its true. Saving the environment is a lot more appealing when your on vacation somewhere gocking at mother nature and have plenty of money in the bank.

The main real argument against modern Democratic-Socialism and why it wouldn't work in this country -- is that we are too racist. Racism isn't a problem in most socialist countries -- partly because of demographics. But its cultural as well. Less people feeling like shit because their not a big shot capitalist -- less need to blame people.

[mickmoranis]

How does government funded healthcare benefit humanity? Aside from attracting those who cannot afford healthcare and subsidizing the existence of lesser efficient conditions, what does it do? How is it morally acceptable to ignore our collective interest while placating one's own conscience with the squandering resources on inefficiencies nature would otherwise cull from mankind?

We can shower it with all the praises we might like to claim as our own, but it is fundamentally immoral. It is a betrayal of self and of mankind. If ever we reach a point wherein we are each so well groomed that not one among us is more competent than another and all share equally in social investment and return, then let us have it, but until that time it is reprehensible :c


Im not sure what you mean but having an employer pay for healthcare vs having an individual carry their own is a matter of morality then you've been taking drugs.

[mickmoranis]

Oil is mostly in Norway. and so the fuck what? I don't know if you realize this, but we got a lot of natural resources of our own including oil. Making Alaskan oil pay the population works out great BTW -- really popular successful etc..but why would you want to do that as an oil company if you can just get some clown to appoint Rex Tillerson?

Socialists TBH -- don't prioritize the environment as much as Hilary Clinton types do. And I mean politically. None of those god damn people actually care enough about the environment to lower their carbon footprint or propose policies that would.

Environment needs to come after wealth inequality...because you can't expect broke people to give a shit -- sorry its true. Saving the environment is a lot more appealing when your on vacation somewhere gocking at mother nature and have plenty of money in the bank.

The main real argument against modern Democratic-Socialism and why it wouldn't work in this country -- is that we are too racist. Racism isn't a problem in most socialist countries -- partly because of demographics. But its cultural as well. Less people feeling like shit because their not a big shot capitalist -- less need to blame people.

this post is the effect of drugs

[maskedmelon]

but it was 3 guys...who cares if 3 billionaires are making way too much money...now its like god damn 2000+ and the gap is even more massive than it ever ways.

it's things like this from you that really make me scratch my head and elevate you in my mind to alpha troll.

are you sincerely arguing that a consolidation of wealth among 3 is better than 2000? What if we just had one super wealthy person? Would that be better yet?

[mickmoranis]

liberals like to cry about the gap but what does the gap even mean, are you seriously upset that there are a few super rich individuals? many slightly rich individuals are still better than you, and even some mediocerally rich invidivuals are still better than you.

People that cry about the "gap" are just people who cry, they have no idea why the gap is bad, they just dont like that there are some people that are super rich and then, they, the regular person who smokes weed and watches netflix cant 'have more of that pie'

if you dont like it then work harder, cancel your netflix subs, and stop buying weed.

The gap causes NO economic problem. Products arent priced acordingly to the richest 1%

theyre priced accordingly to the bottom 99% that make up the most of the market.

All "the gap" means is that there are a few super rich people that dont spend their money and invest it in things that create jobs for the bottom 99% of people that like to cry smoke weed and watch netflix

the gap is a myth

tell me more about how your life is more difficult becuse 1 person out of 10,000,000 bought a g4

[JurisDictum]

it's things like this from you that really make me scratch my head and elevate you in my mind to alpha troll.

are you sincerely arguing that a consolidation of wealth among 3 is better than 2000? What if we just had one super wealthy person? Would that be better yet?

I'm saying that I think it got a lot worse. Things were more equal after Roosevelt -- even though he allowed a few corrupt billionaires. Things like this are like cancer..they just keep growing and just because the end justified the means in the 1940's -- doesn't mean it will last that way forever.

[JurisDictum]

liberals like to cry about the gap but what does the gap even mean, are you seriously upset that there are a few super rich individuals? many slightly rich individuals are still better than you, and even some mediocerally rich invidivuals are still better than you.

People that cry about the "gap" are just people who cry, they have no idea why the gap is bad, they just dont like that there are some people that are super rich and then, they, the regular person who smokes weed and watches netflix cant 'have more of that pie'

if you dont like it then work harder, cancel your netflix subs, and stop buying weed.

The gap causes NO economic problem. Products arent priced acordingly to the richest 1%

theyre priced accordingly to the bottom 99% that make up the most of the market.

All "the gap" means is that there are a few super rich people that dont spend their money and invest it in things that create jobs for the bottom 99% of people that like to cry smoke weed and watch netflix

the gap is a myth

tell me more about how your life is more difficult becuse 1 person out of 10,000,000 bought a g4

Oh yea the gap is a myth.

No one ever lobbied anyone in congress and skewed things to the wealthy

The people in control of all the wealth aren't actually in control at all -- its people shopping at Wal Mart

and the only reason anyone has money is because they worked hard for it and if they don't have money they are lazy and its a personal moral failing

Did I miss any other stupid idea debunked 10 years ago?

[JurisDictum]

You can make the same point about Democrat poor people. They keep voting democrat, and they are no better off now than they were fifty years ago. The only people who get rich from Democratic government control are politicians lawyers lobbyists and bureaucrats.

This is why I seriously might not vote Democrat next election. I admit I had my head up my ass about the potential of the party until recently -- same with many of us. I don't think anyone except a clothed socialist calling themselves Republican can get me to vote Republican. There is too much not to like with them.

I would put up with a lot of Jesus talk though if it came with the Sander's package.

[Raavak]

Theoretically socialism only can work in the absence of scarcity, and in general will fail as long as human nature is such that it is. Greed and "want" causes us to work. If given our "needs" with little effort humans (and all animals) will put out less effort to obtain them. Productivity will moves downward to a lower steady state that is below sustainability.

We have sometimes seen socialist economies existing past a predicted failure. An insertion of resources from outside the system can maintain its existence. International borrowing and cash commodities can make up for lack of productivity but these cannot be sustained either. The oil of the North Atlantic states has been sustaining and infusing them with cash, and should for some time yet, but cannot forever, not should it confuse people into thinking they have solved socialism's faults.

[JurisDictum]

How does government funded healthcare benefit humanity? Aside from attracting those who cannot afford healthcare and subsidizing the existence of lesser efficient conditions, what does it do? How is it morally acceptable to ignore our collective interest while placating one's own conscience with the squandering resources on inefficiencies nature would otherwise cull from mankind?

We can shower it with all the praises we might like to claim as our own, but it is fundamentally immoral. It is a betrayal of self and of mankind. If ever we reach a point wherein we are each so well groomed that not one among us is more competent than another and all share equally in social investment and return, then let us have it, but until that time it is reprehensible :c

Your missing the part where we are constantly wasting human potential because of poverty conditions. If we can minimize those conditions it stands to reason that outcomes would be better in aggregate. Mic just made a post about us basically checking out / smoking weed / watching Netflix too much. Maybe he has a point. Maybe less people would do that if they weren't poor/traumatized by growing up poor.

It's like any competition -- which is what people obsessed with genetics and societal efficiency ultimately turn this into. It's better to have a big competition pool rather than a small one of people proven to be successful. How do we even know those same competitors are good unless we are constantly testing them against new competitors given opportunity enough to challenge them?

[maskedmelon]

I'm saying that I think it got a lot worse. Things were more equal after Roosevelt -- even though he allowed a few corrupt billionaires. Things like this are like cancer..they just keep growing and just because the end justified the means in the 1940's -- doesn't mean it will last that way forever.

you may well be right, but I think it is dangerous to argue that more wealthy individuals is more harmful than fewer. Is society more threatened by having a single disadvantages individual with fewer resources than everyone else than it is by having a single individual with vastly more resources than everyone else?

I think the degree of inequality is vastly more important and as I've said before, I do not believe society really benefits from exceptionally wealthy individuals. Society benefits from investment and production. Those things come from business.

[JurisDictum]

Theoretically socialism only can work in the absence of scarcity, and in general will fail as long as human nature is such that it is. Greed and "want" causes us to work. If given our "needs" with little effort humans (and all animals) will put out less effort to obtain them. Productivity will moves downward to a lower steady state that is below sustainability.

We have sometimes seen socialist economies existing past a predicted failure. An insertion of resources from outside the system can maintain its existence. International borrowing and cash commodities can make up for lack of productivity but these cannot be sustained either. The oil of the North Atlantic states has been sustaining and infusing them with cash, and should for some time yet, but cannot forever, not should it confuse people into thinking they have solved socialism's faults.

Well maybe we aren't going all the way to Marxist utopian socialism. We're talking more about what can actually be called: Democratic-Socialist Capitalism. It is actually still a capitalist system its just that socialist policies are adopted to encourage equality. Alternatively, we could go a more conservative rout and the logic would be that we need big unionization and policies that protect Jobs and the traditional family from the forces of the market. Socialism seems more the future to me.

[Raavak]

liberals like to cry about the gap but what does the gap even mean, are you seriously upset that there are a few super rich individuals?A socialist used to amuse us with his rants about billionaire incomes and bonus pay. You could see the greed and jealousy in his anger.

But you were the devil if you pointed out to him that if you take all of a billionaires assets, say Bill Gates, that he acquired over decades of work it would pay only 10% of one single year of the USA military budget.

If you took all of the USA billionaires money you could only pay the bills of the USA for like 4 years.

And in the 5th year there would be nothing left to give.

[mickmoranis]

Oh yea the gap is a myth.

No one ever lobbied anyone in congress and skewed things to the wealthy

oh god this old red herring again.

your problem in that case isnt with the wealthy, its with the corrupt goverment (that republicans want to shrink) that allow money in politics in the first place.

But no, instead you think increasing governments power will somehow change the fact that the rich run your goverment thanks to policy passed by anti small goverment politicians that allowed them to be lobbied in the first place.

this is is why your side will never win again, you're all victims of a giant hoax.

[mickmoranis]

and the only reason anyone has money is because they worked hard for it and if they don't have money they are lazy and its a personal moral failing

Did I miss any other stupid idea debunked 10 years ago?

yes the reason you are poor is because you lack the evolutionary traits to not be.

you live in a completely free market where you have the complete freedom to change your entire life, but no.. you dont want to work hard enough for it or you dont want to admit that the choices you've made in the last decade or two have all been mistakes.

There is literally nothing stopping you from becoming a millionaire, literally nothing, except for your own desire to get on this form and post about why you're upset that you simply arnt a millionare right now.

Name me ONE thing that is stopping you from becoming a millionare that is someone else's fault.

[maskedmelon]

Your missing the part where we are constantly wasting human potential because of poverty conditions.

No, we agree on that, we just attribute different causes and solutions. I believe we are what we are, the manifestation of a vast collection of interactions between complex organic machines and their less complex constituents and interactions thereof. There is nothing magical about our being and whether damned by nature in the stuff we are made of or the influence of our environments, we are what we are. I can no more increase my intelligence than I can my height. I can better tune my personality no more than I can my physique and the parameters imposed by my constitution. The remedy therefore is to arrest propagation of those Of unfortunate circumstance.

If we can minimize those conditions it stands to reason that outcomes would be better in aggregate. Mic just made a post about us basically checking out / smoking weed / watching Netflix too much. Maybe he has a point. Maybe less people would do that if they weren't poor/traumatized by growing up poor.

I agree, I just don't see investing in failure as a remedy to it :c

t's like any competition -- which is what people obsessed with genetics and societal efficiency ultimately turn this into. It's better to have a big competition pool rather than a small one of people proven to be successful. How do we even know those same competitors are good unless we are constantly testing them against new competitors given opportunity enough to challenge them?

This is an interesting argument and one that I am going to give more thought. I've given it some thought before, but never too much because we do not last forever, we have more people than we need already and in very short order are going to have many more we won't need and limitless competition of synthetic origin.

[mickmoranis]

juris been thinking for hours now and cant come up with one thing that someone else is doing to stop him from not being a poor, blamer, slug.

[AzzarTheGod]

In her new book, Clinton blamed Bernie Sanders for "copying her policies", "making unrealistic promises", and "purposefully disrupting the Democratic party". I'm so happy that fucking cunt isn't president. (But not as happy as I am sad that Trump is)

Expect more of the same in 2020 though.

u want dunks kid then click it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVb1ioV010U

[AzzarTheGod]

Most of that started with Bill Clinton. Clinton decided the "new" democrats needed to be corrupt lobbyists on the dole from billionaire donors. Roosevelt did a bit of that and all...but it was 3 guys...who cares if 3 billionaires are making way too much money...now its like god damn 2000+ and the gap is even more massive than it ever ways.

IDK if Clinton realized this fully or not. That it would basically be the undoing of populism if you routinely side with billionaires. I think he and wife honestly thought that this wouldn't get as bad as it is now. But I also think they stopped giving a shit sometime before Bill entered the white house.

xtreme relevance rebomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVb1ioV010U

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