******Official politics thread ******

[Xaanka]

idk i think it's pretty obvious the dem's are aware of their internalized violent tendencies at this point. one of their own mows down a crowd of 20,000 and their reaction is to talk about gun control without even addressing their radicalized rhetoric and support for antifa/blm isis and other terrorist organizations. their whole second amendment argument stems from self-awareness, they know they're incapable of being responsible for their actions (hillary's new book anyone?) so the only solution is to take more of your rights away obviously.

if a white nationalist did the same thing wouldn't a lot of people on the right be distancing from them? don't seem to see that happening with the left RN.

speaking of violence, there's several hundred news stories in the past year about news reporters and cameramen being attacked by groups of antifa and blm, have white nationalists ever assaulted a reporter to anyone's knowledge? couldn't find any stories. interested in this one.

[mickmoranis]

idk i think it's pretty obvious the dem's are aware of their internalized violent tendencies at this point. one of their own mows down a crowd of 20,000 and their reaction is to talk about gun control without even addressing their radicalized rhetoric and support for antifa/blm isis and other terrorist organizations. their whole second amendment argument stems from self-awareness, they know they're incapable of being responsible for their actions (hillary's new book anyone?) so the only solution is to take more of your rights away obviously.

if a white nationalist did the same thing wouldn't a lot of people on the right be distancing from them? don't seem to see that happening with the left RN.

speaking of violence, there's several hundred news stories in the past year about news reporters and cameramen being attacked by groups of antifa and blm, have white nationalists ever assaulted a reporter to anyone's knowledge? couldn't find any stories. interested in this one.

Beautiful post. JKL seemed like he was shedding crocodile tears.

[mickmoranis]

If the left actually cared about gun violence, you'd see them doing something about it beyond lecturing everyone on facebook everytime there is a white group of people shot.

[Nilstoniakrath]

If the left actually cared about gun violence, you'd see them doing something about it beyond lecturing everyone on facebook everytime there is a white group of people shot.

All the gun law proposals favored by the left wouldn't have prevented any of the mass murders that has happened recently. All they would have done is satisfy their virtue signaling and pissed off conservatives and given them more control over our lives. The criminals will always have guns and disarming the good guys will only make it that much easier for gun crimes to happen.

I would actually prefer that we go back to the days of crossbows and plate armor and no weapons of mass destruction such as nuclear or chemical weapons. But that ain't happening no matter what laws get passed.

[mickmoranis]

Id like to see blue states spending less time fighting the second amendment, which is a red herring becuse it reduced mass murders in australia by no measurable difference, (although libs like to point out that there were less suicides by guns and less gun deaths, however ignroing that the suicide rate did not decline nor did the number of murders beyond the rate they were since the 70's)

and spend more time trying to figure out why in blue states, compton, crenshaw, and chicago are some of the most famous havens for gang violence in america.

Why not spend some time trying to fix gun deaths there? They like to point out that we have DRASTICALLY more gun deaths than any other country but refuse to do any studies to figure out why 9 out of every 11 gun deaths are gang related.

nore do they realize that 10 out of every 11 are crime on crime deaths.

(both of those ratios are keeping suicides out of the equation at all)

also notice how if you google gang death rate america, you only get links for GUN death rates in america... becuse FACT: America doesnt CARE about the dead, they care about political bickering between democrats and republicans

Maybe.. just MAYBE if you democrats out there and diane finestine actually CARED about gun deaths, instead of were secretly fighting a war against republicans, then MAYBE just MAYBE you would devote some of your state taxe dollars to fixing the gun violence problem in your state.

Watch this: Put an optional 10% tax hike on all citizens in any blue state, to create goverment agencies to solve gun violence in any manageable way

and watch the number of people that are actually willing to put their money where their social network mouth is, be less people than are killed by guns in an entire year in this country.

Pathetic disingenuous obvious lefty political crocodile tears, are OBvious.

[SamwiseRed]

https://i.imgur.com/2Dy3SeD.png

[mickmoranis]

ill fuckn quadroople post

[mickmoranis]

in this thread

[mickmoranis]

but what concerns me is day had solid rant going for like 6 months in here with no obstruction, how can he only be at 249 are posts removed? pity.

[mickmoranis]

hi sam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay)

[mickmoranis]

also rip bj life is not the same where is he please someone tell me

[AzzarTheGod]

also rip whale life is not the same where is he please someone tell me

It's up to Xaanka if he wants to ask the whale it's intentions.

He's the only one here who's formed a friendship outside of the forums with the large aquatic mammal.

Melon wasn't deemed valuable enough for the whale and was stuffed down a storm drain after a few short weeks, left to die. The whale leaves a wake of devastation wherever it swims.

[mickmoranis]

what were his last words here on the forums?

[Pokesan]

what were his last words here on the forums?

he's back now. focus your mind on 'jerry' and find him.

[AzzarTheGod]

what were his last words here on the forums?

some posts in the lube thread which was deleted shortly after. Umbrella made an appearance there just when people thought the thread was dead, triggering the chain reaction.

He never saw it coming so his last words are irrelevant I'm afraid.

[AzzarTheGod]

he's back now. focus your mind on 'jerry' and find him.

I'm tracking 3-4 different whales right now there's been a recent surge in fresh registration the past 30-60 days.

[Xaanka]

big j is always here; even when when big j's posts aren't here, big j's spirit lives on in every dunk, layup, free throw and rebound

[Pokesan]

I'm tracking 3-4 different whales right now there's been a recent surge in fresh registration the past 30-60 days.

i had some false pozzies but this bandit is confirmed.

weapons hot.

[Xaanka]

at least i will never be french

at least my posts will never be the neighborhood bike of the politics thread

[mickmoranis]

https://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/a-statistician-reconsiders-her-support-f

Regarding the much-touted gun control laws of Britain and Australia, Libresco found that "neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun-related crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans." Looking into bans on so-called assault weapons, she concluded that the category is an arbitrary construct with little practical significance.

[Pokesan]

some kind of buzzfeed journalist massacre going on right now. breitbart collaborators being hung out to dry.

who talked? milo?

[mickmoranis]

some kind of buzzfeed journalist massacre going on right now. breitbart collaborators being hung out to dry.

who talked? milo?

here is the story: milo talked to white supremacists and alt righters to write this article (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/) that detailed who they are and how they operate. Basically, journalism. Like you know, when vice goes and hangs out with warlords... Does that make vice journalists, warlords?

Heres how the libtards are going to see it: HOW DARE THEY TALK TO NAZIS THAT MEANS THEY ARE NAZIS

[Pokesan]

here is the story: milo talked to white supremacists and alt righters to write this article (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/) that detailed who they are and how they operate. Basically, journalism. Like you know, when vice goes and hangs out with warlords... Does that make vice journalists, warlords?

Heres how the libtards are going to see it: HOW DARE THEY TALK TO NAZIS THAT MEANS THEY ARE NAZIS

no i dont care about that. someone dumped internal emails and exposed a bunch of nonfringe journos playing nice with the nazis.

who ratted and why?

[mickmoranis]

britebart talked to white supremacists and alt righters to write an article

libtards are going to say THEY TALK TO NAZIS THAT MEANS THEY ARE NAZIS

no i dont care about that. someone dumped internal emails and exposed a bunch of nonfringe journos playing nice with the nazis.

wow

woooowwwwwww

you did exactly what I said the libtards would do :eek:

[Nilstoniakrath]

no i dont care about that. someone dumped internal emails and exposed a bunch of nonfringe journos playing nice with the nazis.

who ratted and why?

Exposing old white men=Wonderful

Exposing libturds=OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!

F u you F-ing dumba$$

[Pokesan]

wow

woooowwwwwww

you did exactly what I said the libtards would do :eek:

i used your idiom for fun, you idiot. to copy your broken record style, i repeat, i do not give a hot fuck about the nazis milo interviewed.

who ratted on the collaborators?

[Xaanka]

oh noes milo and weev are cybering in emails stop the presses!!!1

lol @ buzzfeed writer doxxing the young turks thats dope

[Pokesan]

i don't blame weev for becoming a nazi. do what you gotta to protect your bhole in the pen.

shame he kept at it.

[Nibblewitz]

Manufactured conflict.

[Rader]

i don't blame weev for becoming a nazi. do what you gotta to protect your bhole in the pen.

shame he kept at it.

Hey fucktard can you pretend to have a brain every once in a while?

[Pokesan]

Hey fucktard can you pretend to have a brain every once in a while?

In October 2014, Auernheimer published an article in the neo-Nazi blog The Daily Stormer in which he revealed himself to be a white nationalist.

?

[Csihar]

Shooting of Patrick Harmon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12qoIsaKPE

Thoughts?

[chadtwoke]

he wuh a good boy he dindu nuffin. he went ta church erry sunday.

[Pokesan]

he wuh a good boy he dindu nuffin. he went ta church erry sunday.

could you share some details as to why this killing by an agent of the government was justified?

[Csihar]

The police officers claimed he had a knife and at one point turned around claiming he would 'fucking cut them'. Fearing for his life one of the police offers shot him three times in the back. Personally I couldn't find that in the video.

[chadtwoke]

could you share some details as to why this killing by an agent of the government was justified?

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/04/da-clears-salt-lake-city-police-officer-in-deadly-shooting/#gallery-carousel-58169

These are stills from the multiple body cams.

First, you can clearly see that after he resisted arrest and ran, he turns around and faces the officers. It's hard to tell cause the image quality is shit, but all three officers claimed he had a knife that he pulled out of his right pants pocket. The picture also reveals he wasn't shot in the back, but in the left side of his body.

https://i.imgur.com/R8WPWS8.jpg

Here's a picture of the knife after he was shot.

https://i.imgur.com/jfJtPZe.jpg

A more detailed picture of the knife.

https://i.imgur.com/1GWnd4V.jpg






So, the guy resisted arrest, ran, stops and turns towards the officers with a knife. That's why he was shot. I agree that I didn't hear him say he was going to cut them, but you pull a knife, you're gonna get shot. Guy was an idiot. On top of that he had multiple warrants including felony aggravated assault.

[Csihar]

I came back to this thread because I watched the video again and noticed there was a point where he did turn around. At the very least that creates sufficient doubt to no longer claim that he didn't seem to have a knife.

The claim that he verbally threatened them does seem doubtful. Difficult to know where the truth lies when you can't see the knife in his hand.

The guy did make a stupid decision, seemingly out of desperation. Under ideal circumstances the officer shouldn't have shot the man but they're not robots.

Perhaps more of a tragedy than any real wrongdoing. Will have to think it over. And when I come to a conclusion I will realize it doesn't matter either way. And then I'll drink.

[Pokesan]

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/04/da-clears-salt-lake-city-police-officer-in-deadly-shooting/#gallery-carousel-58169

These are stills from the multiple body cams.

First, you can clearly see that after he resisted arrest and ran, he turns around and faces the officers. It's hard to tell cause the image quality is shit, but all three officers claimed he had a knife that he pulled out of his right pants pocket. The picture also reveals he wasn't shot in the back, but in the left side of his body.

https://i.imgur.com/R8WPWS8.jpg

Here's a picture of the knife after he was shot.

https://i.imgur.com/jfJtPZe.jpg

A more detailed picture of the knife.

https://i.imgur.com/1GWnd4V.jpg






So, the guy resisted arrest, ran, stops and turns towards the officers with a knife. That's why he was shot. I agree that I didn't hear him say he was going to cut them, but you pull a knife, you're gonna get shot. Guy was an idiot. On top of that he had multiple warrants including felony aggravated assault.

you are comfortable with disobeying the government being worthy of death?

[mickmoranis]

Shooting of Patrick Harmon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12qoIsaKPE

Thoughts?

to be expected, what planet do you think a guy should get cops to chase him down a dark ally where he can hit and kill them with a hammer or knife around a corner? Or who knows shoot him with a gun under his waist.

How many cops need to die every year protecting you before you thank them instead of demanding that its a persons right to run away from police and not suffer any consequences at all?

Why do you feel like cops should risk their lives for scum that wont acept the reality that they have been arrested?

Dont act like a fool and you wont get shot, there is no threat to you, unless you like to act like a fool.

[chadtwoke]

you are comfortable with disobeying the government being worthy of death?

Actually fuck this, there's no point in arguing over it. I'm gonna get drunk.

[mickmoranis]

you are comfortable with disobeying the government being worthy of death?

hell ya, we dont support the right to bear arms so we can have fucking pillow fights you god damn idiot.

[chadtwoke]

Last night I made chocolate chip cookies from scratch. They are delicious.

[Pokesan]

hell ya, we dont support the right to bear arms so we can have fucking pillow fights you god damn idiot.

perhaps you just enjoy watching people die.

[mickmoranis]

perhaps you just enjoy watching people die.

I would love to watch about 9/10ths of this world die in a fire all at once.

[Xaanka]

The claim that he verbally threatened them does seem doubtful.

lol what

[Xaanka]

what kind of world do you live in where a visibly intoxicated guy can resist arrest, run from the cops, stop turn and draw a deadly weapon, but if even matters or not if he made a verbal threat?

clickbait debunked within minutes by other bodycam. shooting justified. good on the cops for being quick to the draw, at such close range the man with the knife has the advantage.

[Pokesan]

I would love to watch about 9/10ths of this world die in a fire all at once.

edgelording is pretty dull

[AzzarTheGod]

some kind of buzzfeed journalist massacre going on right now. breitbart collaborators being hung out to dry.

who talked? milo?

all that cocaine and dick makes for loose lips

[Xaanka]

idk because there's a second bodycam video right below the first one where you can see him draw a weapon? and a weapon was recovered at the scene? seems pretty open and shut.

[Xaanka]

You have a differing opinion on that. You also seem to blindly trust the police statement on a weapon being recovered

???
from 2 pages ago

https://i.imgur.com/jfJtPZe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1GWnd4V.jpg

not to mention his history of committing violent crimes

idk why people demonize people who put their lives on the line to protect the public while bending over backwards to make every excuse in the book for people who are clearly violent criminals often killed in the act of attempting to attack a law enforcement officer, member of the public, store owner etc with a deadly weapon. mike brown, treyvon martin, etc. its disgusting behavior.

[Ahldagor]

Those are two different knives. Learn your weapons, first, and, secondly, one of the common things officers of any agency do when they fuck up bad is plant a knife. Ever seen a cop car that doesn't have a pair of channel lock pliers?

[Xaanka]

Those are two different knives. Learn your weapons, first, and, secondly, one of the common things officers of any agency do when they fuck up bad is plant a knife. Ever seen a cop car that doesn't have a pair of channel lock pliers?

see what i mean with bending over backwards to make excuses for attempted cop killers because these nu-males have an inferiority complex when it comes to authority?

the image is artifacted to hell. from what you can see in the photos they are both silver folders with a drop point shaped blade (the kind you would use to stab and kill someone, not a blade shape used as a tool) and silver metal handle of the same length and an indent between the handle and the lock. idk dude, how much do you know about knives?

but of course the cops planted the knife on them, that's why you can see him stop and turn, something one would only do in that situation if they were planning on stabbing the cop which was within stabbing distance.

[Xaanka]

i get how the gut reactions happen here but get a grip, this is a life or death situation. based on the man's actions alone, even if he had no knife and was only pretending to draw a weapon his death was justified. a lot of you seem not to understand how explosive a knife fight can get when someone's caught by surprise and there's no distance to cover between the knife wielder and the target. i am impressed by that cop's quick draw and accuracy, that video was a split second reaction away from seeing 2+ cops get stabbed.

[Pokesan]

magacrew loves to justify police murder by smearing the victims

[Xaanka]

magacrew loves to justify police murder by smearing the victims

how so? I've only been posting about details of the video.

as someone who saw Treyvon's facebook page before it was memoryholed, I'd say the opposite happens. he was selling weed, crack, and talking about robbing people on his public facebook page but the media painted him to be a good kid who never did anything wrong and definitely wouldn't be prowling for burglaries.

didn't they use pictures of mike brown as a teenager on cnn and msnbc too?

[Pokesan]

how so? I've only been posting about details of the video.

as someone who saw Treyvon's facebook page before it was memoryholed, I'd say the opposite happens. he was selling weed, crack, and talking about robbing people on his public facebook page but the media painted him to be a good kid who never did anything wrong and definitely wouldn't be prowling for burglaries.

didn't they use pictures of mike brown as a teenager on cnn and msnbc too?

he was no angel (implied: and therefore deserved to die)

it's an ongoing smear campaign whenever browns get killed by cops.

[password]

that's an awfuly big assumption... perhaps it is the libtard in your inner self that thinks that woke non cucks that arent FLABBERGASTEDOMG that russia was manipulating our election by posting on facebook, arnt the ones that thought the cold war ended.. EHHHH?

was it TRUMP that said we did the same thing and do bad stuff too?? OH WAIT YES IT WAS

and you're like

THE R-R-R-Rusians H-H-Have Ha-k-k-kers! WHAT DEW WE DOOOO

you sit there and fucking ignore it, jesus christ its been going on since the 50s


Some of us get it.

You guys are going to shit post whatever you want.

I can't be triggered. that's so 2016. you cowards.

Taco truck on every corner is the rallying cry of 2018.
God I love tacos.

who doesn't love tacos ?!?!?

[Xaanka]

he was no angel (implied: and therefore deserved to die)

it's an ongoing smear campaign whenever browns get killed by cops.


wouldn't that be the media painting an inaccurate image of him in order to garner sympathy? it's not a smear campaign if its the truth, and the truth is being surpressed. you can't guilt people for speaking the truth about something they've been getting constantly guilted for in society.

[Rader]

he was no angel (implied: and therefore deserved to die)

it's an ongoing smear campaign whenever browns get killed by cops.

Show an instance where the perp wasn't resisting arrest or evading or trying to kill the police officer. These fucks think they are above the law, instead of doing what the cop asks they always have to assert their "rights" instead of chilling out for a bit and then getting the lawyers and media involved and raking in a big payday. Idiots.

[Xaanka]

what about that huge smear campaign there was to call a hispanic guy white a while back? hmmm thinkeing emoji but distorted

[Pokesan]

Show an instance where the perp wasn't resisting arrest or evading or trying to kill the police officer. These fucks think they are above the law, instead of doing what the cop asks they always have to assert their "rights" instead of chilling out for a bit and then getting the lawyers and media involved and raking in a big payday. Idiots.

its just weird how everytime the cops kill someone, you lot show up to lick their boots. it might not be intentionally racial but you definitely enjoy cop cock sliding down your throat.

[Xaanka]

i will concede to alhaheuiqwhewqedor that a silver handle ~3" drop point locking folder is about as generic as a stabby type knife gets in the USA
in most states; it's different depending on local laws especially with lock types allowed.

and i will concede that cops do plant evidence, given that i've successfully sued a police department who planted evidence on me, but i just don't see how you can come to that conclusion based on what's been posted in this thread (i haven't googled for more info on this case, who knows maybe there's more to it?) given how much the man's actions and movements in the second bodycam video corroborate the story that he stopped and tried to stab a cop. especially given his history of violent crime.

the way i see it, at that distance he could put a knife in you so quick that weird behavior like that warrants two in the chest whether he had one or not.

situations like that are a tragedy, but i'll accept that cops aren't perfect fucking robocops who make mistakes and this is what we have bodycams for. roast any pig who maliciously shoots an innocent man but in more questionable cases like this where i think any reasonable person who isn't being clouded by cophate and politics could understand the level of risk the cop is in and understand their decision to go home to their wife and kids that night. i'm going to side with the cop every time its even a remotely questionable situation. pull an airsoft gun on a cop? you deserve what you get. etc.

also i don't often come here to bootlick cops, i usually stay out of these ones. ideologically i'm in this weird space where i think cops are a good + necessary thing to a civil society but i think our revenue generation quota based systems and other factors lead to a bunch of shit cops in practice, and they're working in a society of people who hate and distrust them. so in practice fuck da police. but i feel a lot of people meet 1 shitty cop and lose all nuance. there's a lot of good cops too and the good ones deserve respect af.

[Rader]

its just weird how everytime the cops kill someone, you lot show up to lick their boots. it might not be intentionally racial but you definitely enjoy cop cock sliding down your throat.

Says the dude gargling cum.

[Pokesan]

Says the dude gargling cum.

gargling cum is more respectable than fellating state sponsored street executioners!

[Xaanka]

dat nuance fellows :3

[Xaanka]

yo like fuck firefighters and shiet

[AzzarTheGod]

gargling cum is more respectable than fellating state sponsored street executioners!

The ace!

[mickmoranis]

its just weird how everytime the cops kill someone, you lot show up to lick their boots. it might not be intentionally racial but you definitely enjoy cop cock sliding down your throat.

you brought it up lol

[Xaanka]

*SLAPFIGHT INTENSIFIES*

ill be honest dude i skimmed your post because it looked like some gay shit

[Pokesan]

you brought it up lol

nuh uh!

he wuh a good boy he dindu nuffin. he went ta church erry sunday.

[Ahldagor]

Did the cops have tasers?

[Xaanka]

idk if i'd trust a taser that close up, all it takes is one explosive burst and a lot of people can manage that while being tased. it really isn't as bad as people think, i'm tiny af and i volunteered to be tased for a demonstration once.

[Ahldagor]

Wondering if the shooting cop grabbed their gun accidently now. If the nodes hit in the right spot then they can drop a person, but it'd be hard pull that off under duress.

[Patriam1066]

he was no angel (implied: and therefore deserved to die)

it's an ongoing smear campaign whenever browns get killed by cops.

Numerically speaking, the world can afford to lose a few browns. Also, let's be honest, white women are more attractive. I can't understand why immigration isn't limited to white females from Ukraine, but that's just me

[mickmoranis]

all I see is people bending over backwards, like xaanka said, to demonize the cop and justify a homeless assault history having unemployed drug abusing alcoholic with no family worthy of helping him endangering the lives of good people risking their lives so you can be safe.

Yall donate what, 0% of your time to helping? Get out there, spend some time at a low income food bank, in 6 months you'll learn the truth and lose all respect for these mythical, innocent scum sucking running from cops poor people you think are basically obama if not for raycism in the police department.

[fash]

A knife-wielding, criminal undesirable attempts to escape lawful arrest.. Surely you wouldn't want savages like him running wild in the streets. These cops did society a great service.

[Pokesan]

all cops are bastards (:

[Nilstoniakrath]

all cops are bastards (:

Why do we even bother having cops in these dens of inequity? Let communities vote, and those blue state havens of lawlessness that hate all cops can become sanctuary cities from the evil that is perpetrating racist Nazi hate upon them. Let them police themselves and may the harmony and public orgies commence. Let them kill each other and be done with their sorry a$$es.

[mickmoranis]

Why do we even bother having cops in these dens of inequity? Let communities vote, and those blue state havens of lawlessness that hate all cops can become sanctuary cities from the evil that is perpetrating racist Nazi hate upon them. Let them police themselves and may the harmony and public orgies commence. Let them kill each other and be done with their sorry a$$es.

notice libtards try to blame guns for all the gun violence in america after a mass shooting but when it comes to actually trying to stop it in areas where gang violence makes up for three quarters of gun violence in this country, they act like the cops are some sort of oppressors.

[Xaanka]

lol have you heard them try to rationalize that one? *cheeto breath w/ bits of crisps flying out* tHE COPS ARE AMERICAS #1 STREET GANG THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM ANDTHE CRIPS EXCEPT A BADGE

[Xaanka]

I can't understand why immigration isn't limited to white females from Ukraine, but that's just me

just in case anyone missed it, this quote is actually what white nationalism is all about

[Pokesan]

just in case anyone missed it, this quote is actually what white nationalism is all about

https://i.imgur.com/eZKFKws.jpg

[Patriam1066]

What can I say where da white women @

[mickmoranis]

What can I say where da white women @

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jGp_ZC2iBE

[Rader]

What can I say where da white women @

Any policy that discriminates against white women is just wrong on so many levels.

[Ahldagor]

Lol, thread shifted into The Birth of a Nation.

[Pokesan]

my fat uncle married a ukrainian broad.

she got a green card and left him.

[Xaanka]

hi, welcome to the white guilt national holiday

[Jarnauga]

"i got guns in case the government tries to fuck me"


"cops are always right"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Xaanka]

"i got guns in case the government tries to fuck me"


"cops are always right"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ "broad simplification and the second one doesn't reflect anything anyone's ever said in the thread"

[fash]

"i got guns in case the government tries to fuck me"


"cops are always right"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like this one more.

https://i.imgur.com/mVByp4p.jpg

[JurisDictum]

my fat uncle married a ukrainian broad.

she got a green card and left him.

Well these kind of live sex toys you buy from Eastern Europe and Asia are only good for a few years.

Enjoy them while you can.

[mickmoranis]

"i got guns in case the government tries to fuck me"


"cops are always right"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's statements like this that show that you have such a ignorant and backwards understanding of everything, that anything else you believe is likely straight up just as retarded.

[Xaanka]

BIG J

arnooga

[AzzarTheGod]

BIG J

arnooga

not cool dude

[AzzarTheGod]

the whale has been active lately paying several visits a piece

[Nilstoniakrath]

"i got guns in case the government tries to fuck me"


"cops are always right"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As one who enjoys it when the government fucks you, your post is invalid.

And it is not true that the cops are "always right," but rather, that the criminals are usually wrong. Especially the ones who think they are above the law and resist being arrested by some white dude, so that their bros don't think they are an uncle tom for following orders from a honkey.

[Pokesan]

police showing remarkable restraint (https://twitter.com/Dont__BeStupid/status/916131099939655680)

[chadtwoke]

police showing remarkable restraint (https://twitter.com/Dont__BeStupid/status/916131099939655680)

Yes, there exists people who show more patience than others. There are also people who exist who aren't wanted on multiple felonies and brandish a knife towards multiple officers. STOP TRYING TO COMPARE THE TWO YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

[Pokesan]

Yes, there exists people who show more patience than others. There are also people who exist who aren't wanted on multiple felonies and brandish a knife towards multiple officers. STOP TRYING TO COMPARE THE TWO YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

are you saying this perps behavior didn't justify the use of lethal force?

wonder what factor is responsible :eek:

[Xaanka]

good example of a taser not working, that's pretty much exactly why i said it was a good move to shoot the other guy.

[Xaanka]

lol harvey weinstein is going to eastern europe for live-in sex addiction therapy, pullin a roman polanski

a wyatt mann was a prophet; weinstein has proven himself to be a cariacture of the sexually predatory jewish hollywood mogul.

rofl.

[Nilstoniakrath]

police showing remarkable restraint (https://twitter.com/Dont__BeStupid/status/916131099939655680)

I actually clicked on your stupid ass link, what is your fucking point you stupid ass retard? Show me a case of someone actually putting their arms up and doing as the cop says, and getting shot anyways, and I will concede the argument. Until then you can go pound salt you stupid as fuck libturd moron.

[mickmoranis]

police showing remarkable restraint (https://twitter.com/Dont__BeStupid/status/916131099939655680)

lol false equivolence

when was the last time you seen some collage boy douchebag pull out a 9mm and light up a street corner?

take away? Stop letting gang violence run rampant in your neighborhoods and you might get a reaction from cops like this that arent as threatened when they have to work your street.

[Pokesan]

I actually clicked on your stupid ass link, what is your fucking point you stupid ass retard? Show me a case of someone actually putting their arms up and doing as the cop says, and getting shot anyways, and I will concede the argument. Until then you can go pound salt you stupid as fuck libturd moron.

how come the white guy didn't get shot to death? lots of others have been killed for alot less

:(

[Pokesan]

lol false equivolence

when was the last time you seen some collage boy douchebag pull out a 9mm and light up a street corner?

take away? Stop letting gang violence run rampant in your neighborhoods and you might get a reaction from cops like this that arent as threatened when they have to work your street.

white perp literally chases a police officer and you screwbrain it into something about gangs.

very not racist

[AzzarTheGod]

lol false equivolence

when was the last time you seen some collage boy douchebag pull out a 9mm and light up a street corner?

take away? Stop letting gang violence run rampant in your neighborhoods and you might get a reaction from cops like this that arent as threatened when they have to work your street.

I have and he reps NAU

[AzzarTheGod]

whale update. can confirm the whale is shy and timid, but it visits at the usual times the whale would visit different aquariums in the past.

my scientists are telling me the whale will continue to lurk for the time being until its able to mate back into its natural habitat. my scientists further speculate the whale is unsure its welcome, again reinforcing the notion, its shy and timid.

[Xaanka]

wheres the whale nickname coming from, kinda confused where that came from

[fash]

Scott Wiener passed his bill making Knowingly exposing others to HIV no longer a felony in California (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-downgrades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html). You don't even need consent. Bug chasers in CA rejoice.

https://i.imgur.com/Xko86v0.png

Look at the nose on this guy.

[Xaanka]

the nose knows

[Ahldagor]

Looks like the dude from Silicon Valley.

[Pokesan]

wheres the whale nickname coming from, kinda confused where that came from

ahab done got his prize and put him in captivity.

[mickmoranis]

Scott Wiener passed his bill making Knowingly exposing others to HIV no longer a felony in California (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-downgrades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html). You don't even need consent. Bug chasers in CA rejoice.

https://i.imgur.com/Xko86v0.png

Look at the nose on this guy.

Wow. So, his argument is that people won't get tested because they're afraid of having a felony charge looming over their head if it turns out they have HIV and they transmit the disease to someone...

But he doesn't say how many people don't get tested because that. Nor does he acknowledge that if you were the kind of person that purposefully doesn't get tested for HIV because you don't want to have to tell people that you have HIV before you have sex with them to avoid a felony charge, you are definitely the type of person to fuck someone and not tell them that you have HIV...

So either way those people are still transmitting the disease... only with this stupid Libcucks new law, are not committing a felony.

This right here is exactly democratic politics in action... sounds good to the Tumblr army, hey this guys making it so people want to get tested and we can give them care! He really cares about society and people and progressive values!... however it's based on pseudoscience like an anti-VAXer's logic.

[Spyder73]

What are the odds that a black kid would have been able to get into the police station with a loaded .45? I am going to guess minimal

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/10/556952584/enter-title

[mickmoranis]

What are the odds that a black kid would have been able to get into the police station with a loaded .45? I am going to guess minimal

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/10/556952584/enter-title

see what happens when you dont treat criminals with the physical force you think police shouldnt treat people with?

[Spyder73]

see what happens when you dont treat criminals with the physical force you think police shouldnt treat people with?

Imagine working at a job (a stretch for some P99ers) where being shot in the head was a possibility, yet the general populous was raging against you for protecting yourself from being shot in the head. Fairly maddening for them I am sure. Only problem I have with police violence (for the most part) is when they travel to private property under bogus pretense and then someone un armed ends up dead. IE the deaf man who was shot on his porch for carrying his walking stick

[mickmoranis]

Imagine working at a job (a stretch for some P99ers) where being shot in the head was a possibility, yet the general populous was raging against you for protecting yourself from being shot in the head. Fairly maddening for them I am sure. Only problem I have with police violence (for the most part) is when they travel to private property under bogus pretense and then someone un armed ends up dead. IE the deaf man who was shot on his porch for carrying his walking stick

yeah, police do all kinds of shady shit, but a patrolmen who risks their life every day to clean up our streets and make it safe for you and I to walk around, shooting someone (entering themselves into a lifetime of stress and regret) so they can go home to their family, and risk their lives all over again the next day, is definitely, not an example of the shady shit.

[Rader]

how come the white guy didn't get shot to death? lots of others have been killed for alot less

:(

You are a special kind of stupid aren't you. So you would feel better if cops started shooting white people randomly, this has nothing to do with protecting black lives, that was just more fake outrage. Idiot.

[mickmoranis]

IE the deaf man who was shot on his porch for carrying his walking stick

This example is bogus though. The area was rife with violence and gang shootings. A person who is profiled because of the behavior of other people the area they live, that risk lives of police offers every day.

An example of a person WHO IS NOT BLIND that see's police pointing guns and gesturing at him to stop and get on the ground, yelling at him. Their faces screaming at him (not something that should be difficult to misunderstand)

Continues to approach the officers, with a long metal pipe, who only the deaf guy knows is a "walking stick" (which can still cause head trauma and loss of life of an officer, let alone this walking stick being a pipe, which is more often or not used as a weapon not a walking stick when wielded by someone approaching an officer)

Is told repeatedly to stop and get down, for so long that the neighbors join in to yell at the officers, further turning the situation into a more and more risky one for the officers.

as a result of all that, he gets shot.

THAT is a perfect example of police using necessary force and a perfect example of you justifying bad behavior by criminals that risks the lives of fathers and daughters and mothers and brothers who are sacrificing their on well being, for you.

[Pokesan]

You are a special kind of stupid aren't you. So you would feel better if cops started shooting white people randomly, this has nothing to do with protecting black lives, that was just more fake outrage. Idiot.

i thought it was about provocation? that the police were -forced- to murder based on behavior. this guy did all that nonsense and survived, let's just chalk it up to something rational like gypsy prayers

would greatly prefer less cop murder overall btw :)

[mickmoranis]

i thought it was about provocation? that the police were -forced- to murder based on behavior. this guy did all that nonsense and survived, let's just chalk it up to something rational like gypsy prayers

would greatly prefer less cop murder overall btw :)

how many times do I have to tell you, it is the location of the officers that affect this.

Do they patrol a collage campus?

Or do they patrol a gang infested poor part of town where nobody has a job?

Why do you insist on only looking at skin color to make all your decisions? You are your own definition of a raycist.

You want cops in bad parts of town to treat known fellons and drugged up gangbangers the way they treat collage students? GET REAL you guys, this is why people call you libtards.

[Spyder73]

This example is bogus though. The area was rife with violence and gang shootings. A person who is profiled because of the behavior of other people the area they live, that risk lives of police offers every day.

An example of a person WHO IS NOT BLIND that see's police pointing guns and gesturing at him to stop and get on the ground, yelling at him. Their faces screaming at him (not something that should be difficult to misunderstand)

Continues to approach the officers, with a long metal pipe, who only the deaf guy knows is a "walking stick" (which can still cause head trauma and loss of life of an officer, let alone this walking stick being a pipe, which is more often or not used as a weapon not a walking stick when wielded by someone approaching an officer)

Is told repeatedly to stop and get down, for so long that the neighbors join in to yell at the officers, further turning the situation into a more and more risky one for the officers.

as a result of all that, he gets shot.

THAT is a perfect example of police using necessary force and a perfect example of you justifying bad behavior by criminals that risks the lives of fathers and daughters and mothers and brothers who are sacrificing their on well being, for you.

When a mentally disabled deaf man gets shot on his front porch there needs to be better protocols put in place. The officer was charged with murder also BTW

[Pokesan]

Scott Wiener passed his bill making Knowingly exposing others to HIV no longer a felony in California (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-downgrades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html). You don't even need consent. Bug chasers in CA rejoice.

https://i.imgur.com/Xko86v0.png

Look at the nose on this guy.

that's fucked up but check this out: pitching underhanded

:D

[Xaanka]

When a mentally disabled deaf man gets shot on his front porch there needs to be better protocols put in place. The officer was charged with murder also BTW

convicted though? i'd venture to guess he probably wasn't convicted of murder, seeing as they would have to prove that the police officer made a premeditated decision to kill the guy before he showed up at his house.

"charged with" means nothing, idk why i have to keep repeating this.

[mickmoranis]

When a mentally disabled deaf man gets shot on his front porch there needs to be better protocols put in place. The officer was charged with murder also BTW

So you want every officer to go through a 10 point check list before making any defenseive actions?

1. officer charged with murder
2. cheif resigns
3. seriously, what the hell more do you want?

Let me tell you man, life is different when the shoe is on the other foot. Maybe you should assume less and listen to what the officers have to say more? Instead of just acting like you know how to organize a better police force in all situations based off what you heard on NPR?

let me remind you what happens when you play the libcuck game of lets treat every suspect like they are a fragle autistic kindergartner:

https://youtu.be/p6mds5tDqDw?t=106

Time code should set you up with what you have no clue officers actually deal with on a regular basis.

yeah, no, I'm sure some libcuck knows better than 100+ years of a well regulated and organized police force.

[Pokesan]

right. white people get fucked with for their beliefs, black people get fucked with for being black.

[mickmoranis]

yea and both of em got it better than the africans

[Pokesan]

yea and both of em got it better than the africans

https://i.imgur.com/NLhE0yh.jpg

[Patriam1066]

right. white people get fucked with for their beliefs, black people get fucked with for being black.

No they don't man

If someone stole your bike you know what color he was. The cops do too

Grow up

[Rader]

right. white people get fucked with for their beliefs, black people get fucked with for being black.

Blacks get all kinds of privileges nowadays you stupid F, you must be some old white F still feeling guilty about the slaves you owned back in the day. And the only whites who get screwed for their beliefs are conservatives.

[Pokesan]

No they don't man

If someone stole your bike you know what color he was. The cops do too

Grow up

homeless isnt a color

[AzzarTheGod]

homeless isnt a color

Deafening

[NachtMystium]

The only logical / reasonable advantage I see whites having over blacks this day and age is wealth brought down by land owners in the south and shit like that. I guarantee you VERY few blacks own land in the south to this day(if any). Not to say all whites have this advantage, but it's kind of comparable to NBA wealth, so I guess it evens out.

[AzzarTheGod]

The only logical / reasonable advantage I see whites having over blacks this day and age is wealth brought down by land owners in the south and shit like that. I guarantee you VERY few blacks own land in the south to this day(if any). Not to say all whites have this advantage, but it's kind of comparable to NBA wealth, so I guess it evens out.

Good one. It's called the death tax

[AzzarTheGod]

Old money n real estate can suck my dick

Imma take half that and half again and then half again

#itsanothergottem

#assesplanked

[Pokesan]

xaanka raptured. she's cucking jesus now.

[Amyas]

The only logical / reasonable advantage I see whites having over blacks this day and age is wealth brought down by land owners in the south and shit like that. I guarantee you VERY few blacks own land in the south to this day(if any). Not to say all whites have this advantage, but it's kind of comparable to NBA wealth, so I guess it evens out.

Lots of black familys own land all over Ga,Al, and Fl. I know of 3 personally that own farms.

[fash]

3

VERY few

[Amyas]

Police officers should always endeavor to be public servants not public sentinels.

[mickmoranis]

want to stop people getting shot by police? End the war on drugs and youll see like 100% less police shootings.

But you know, Obama didn't want to do that in 8 years because democrats are 100% bullshit and all tumblr fake talk and no delivery whatsoever.

Or maybe it was all the other things he was successful doing that he spent his time on, what were those things again? Oh yeah, ZERO things. Oh wait, militarized police, manhunt for snowden, 7 years of manning in federal prison, biggest military buildup in the pacific since ww2.

[Patriam1066]

homeless isnt a color

https://youtu.be/FTDeOPFr9e4

[Patriam1066]

Who the fuck wants to own a farm

I buy condos and rent them
#BustaRhymes
#A-RabMoney

[AzzarTheGod]

xaanka raptured. she's cucking jesus now.

yeah and he made me look like a double-posting asshole now.


as if im a double posting asshole!!

[Pokesan]

want to stop people getting shot by police? End the war on drugs and youll see like 100% less police shootings.

But you know, Obama didn't want to do that in 8 years because democrats are 100% bullshit and all tumblr fake talk and no delivery whatsoever.

Or maybe it was all the other things he was successful doing that he spent his time on, what were those things again? Oh yeah, ZERO things. Oh wait, militarized police, manhunt for snowden, 7 years of manning in federal prison, biggest military buildup in the pacific since ww2.

i was right there with you til you took off into crazytown(3rd paragraph)

learn to stop when you're ahead

[AzzarTheGod]

want to stop people getting shot by police? End the war on drugs and youll see like 100% less police shootings.


Can't end the war on opiates or opioids. just too physically addictive more than people understand. they try to blame it on people wanting to abuse the pills or get high, but in reality, its physically addicting with physical withdrawal. Due to work obligations, nobody is going to actually take time to withdraw that is struggling with prescription opioids.

you'd still need a war on the poppy plant. you could try an information campaign regarding the plant, educating people on the mechanism of physical addiction as best as possible. That might help.

[mickmoranis]

have we ever really had a war on opiods though? pretty sure the war is on petty drugs like weed and cocaine at best.

I mean if we have a war on opiods, then its time to arrest all the doctors of america cus they hand that shit out like they think the hospital is a wonka candy factory.

[Ahldagor]

Lol, end the war on drugs? We're still in Afghanistan for a reason and have for profit prisons that have a strong lobby...

[Ahldagor]

Xaanka banned again? For what, if so.

[mickmoranis]

All you have to say is, seeing as obama didnt end it in 8 years, indicates you will not see an end to the war on drugs, ever, because the left lies and manipulates the voters that would want to end it into thinking that they cant end it but if you keep voting for them, some how that will end it.

[Ahldagor]

All you have to say is, seeing as obama didnt end it in 8 years, indicates you will not see an end to the war on drugs, ever, because the left lies and manipulates the voters that would want to end it into thinking that they cant end it but if you keep voting for them, some how that will end it.

How did that make sense as you typed it? Mind editing the post for clear communication?

[mickmoranis]

How did that make sense as you typed it? Mind editing the post for clear communication?

it makes super sense trust me read it over and over agian u libcuck!

[Pokesan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN2GS3b8cyU

[mickmoranis]

lockeroom talk

[mickmoranis]

thats about about illumianti not san francisco gays.

[Pokesan]

hope so cuz i laughed

[mickmoranis]

hope so cuz i laughed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsbKIiU7OP0

[mickmoranis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKdSvwYsrE

[Pokesan]

pretty mad at the first link, u tricked me into watching alex jones

you'll pay

[mickmoranis]

interesting stuff https://youtu.be/FpKdSvwYsrE?t=388

[AzzarTheGod]

have we ever really had a war on opiods though? pretty sure the war is on petty drugs like weed and cocaine at best.

I mean if we have a war on opiods, then its time to arrest all the doctors of america cus they hand that shit out like they think the hospital is a wonka candy factory.

Accurate. The war has only ever been on cocaine and marijuana. A joke party drug that nobody likes and a sleep aid.

The DEA realizes the physical need people can develop as well as the addiction to the high and that doctors agree removing opiates/opiods too soon causes criminal behavior and/or violent crime.

And so the most heinous drug has been ignored by the "war on drugs"

[Raavak]

thats about about illumianti not san francisco gays.
the Illuminati don't exist

[Ahldagor]

it makes super sense trust me read it over and over agian u libcuck!


Lol, it's like you're off topic.

[fash]

Some of you may remember DeAndre Harris from Charlottesville. He was the swarthy gentleman who was attacked by white supreeemacists. Those extremists beat him for no reason, yet this poor boy who dindu nuffin was arrested earlier this week.

Even this trusted new CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/charlottesville-deandre-harris-arrest/index.html) reports the facts, "The city of Charlottesville is allowing these same white supremacists to re-victimize my client DeAndre Harris on the word of a single extremist," said S. Lee Merritt. "His word alone, without any additional evidence, allowed for a warrant to go forward."

It's the current year. I can't believe these kind of double standards still exist! The poor boy just wanted to live in peace with his $166k -- or at least what was left after using the funds to buy a mercedes benz and $2k air jordans for his music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Job36beOIpw).

https://i.imgur.com/996kxUG.png

[AzzarTheGod]

Some of you may remember DeAndre Harris from Charlottesville. He was the swarthy gentleman who was attacked by white supreeemacists. Those extremists beat him for no reason, yet this poor boy who dindu nuffin was arrested earlier this week.

Even this trusted new CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/charlottesville-deandre-harris-arrest/index.html) reports the facts, "The city of Charlottesville is allowing these same white supremacists to re-victimize my client DeAndre Harris on the word of a single extremist," said S. Lee Merritt. "His word alone, without any additional evidence, allowed for a warrant to go forward."

It's the current year. I can't believe these kind of double standards still exist! The poor boy just wanted to live in peace with his $166k -- or at least what was left after using the funds to buy a mercedes benz and $2k air jordans for his music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Job36beOIpw).

https://i.imgur.com/996kxUG.png


damn he blew all the money on the benz, couldnt lease or finance it because of his credit...so he had to buy the benz straight cash....yikes.

[Ahldagor]

So when's everyone going to go after credit ratngs as being racist?

[Pokesan]

Some of you may remember DeAndre Harris from Charlottesville. He was the swarthy gentleman who was attacked by white supreeemacists. Those extremists beat him for no reason, yet this poor boy who dindu nuffin was arrested earlier this week.

Even this trusted new CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/charlottesville-deandre-harris-arrest/index.html) reports the facts, "The city of Charlottesville is allowing these same white supremacists to re-victimize my client DeAndre Harris on the word of a single extremist," said S. Lee Merritt. "His word alone, without any additional evidence, allowed for a warrant to go forward."

It's the current year. I can't believe these kind of double standards still exist! The poor boy just wanted to live in peace with his $166k -- or at least what was left after using the funds to buy a mercedes benz and $2k air jordans for his music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Job36beOIpw).

https://i.imgur.com/996kxUG.png

whats ur point

[AzzarTheGod]

So when's everyone going to go after credit ratngs as being racist?

didnt Proctor and Gamble fund a study on credit rating that was basically a race study?

was huge controversy over that being that its fortune 500 racism.

[AzzarTheGod]

whats ur point

dependin on how i feel,

might be the coupe or sedan

[fash]

whats ur point

Continuing my crusade against institutionalized racism by sharing the news articles and horrible events on a forum for a 17 year old elf simulator.

Can you believe this poor boy was issued a warrant simply based on the word of some white supremacist extremist in the current year?

[Pokesan]

Continuing my crusade against institutionalized racism by sharing the news articles and horrible events on a forum for a 17 year old elf simulator.

Can you believe this poor boy was issued a warrant simply based on the word of some white supremacist extremist in the current year?

it's a quirk of the legal system, not much to do with the rest of what you said.

how come you said those things

[Nilstoniakrath]

whats ur point

His point is you are a stupid dumbfuck, duh.

[Ahldagor]

didnt Proctor and Gamble fund a study on credit rating that was basically a race study?

was huge controversy over that being that its fortune 500 racism.

They may have. I do not know.

[Jarnauga]

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/11/terrorist-donald-trump-airport-bomber-estes-asheville/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Pokesan]

http://observer.com/2017/10/democrats-revive-failed-pied-piper-strategy-for-2018/

Democrats Revive Failed ‘Pied Piper’ Strategy for 2018

For the 2018 midterm elections, the Democratic Party is strategizing to elevate far-right Republican candidates to provide Democrats with easier paths to victory.

lol why even vote

[Patriam1066]

Am I the only one who hates visible tattoos? You look like shit

Thanks and God bless!

[Nilstoniakrath]

http://observer.com/2017/10/democrats-revive-failed-pied-piper-strategy-for-2018/

Democrats Revive Failed ‘Pied Piper’ Strategy for 2018



lol why even vote

Voting is a complete waste of time, it only encourages the politicians and nothing of significance will change based on the results. There is a wise proverb in many other countries, along the lines of "a change in rulers only gives comfort to fools." "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." The major parties are playing you if you think it makes one bit of difference who gets elected. If you view politics as sport, it can be pleasing to see the other side cry, but that is about it.

[Pokesan]

Voting is a complete waste of time, it only encourages the politicians and nothing of significance will change based on the results. There is a wise proverb in many other countries, along the lines of "a change in rulers only gives comfort to fools." "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." The major parties are playing you if you think it makes one bit of difference who gets elected. If you view politics as sport, it can be pleasing to see the other side cry, but that is about it.

quotin' this. pleased to be so surprised. well done! :D

[Tiax]

Genuine question to Trump supporters: do you still think he is good, or is it just about making liberals angry at this point?

[AzzarTheGod]

Genuine question to Trump supporters: do you still think he is good, or is it just about making liberals angry at this point?

lmao i was a trumpette i knew the fat king wouldnt hunt

0 legislation 0 bills 0 change






aside from retired people in certain states not being able to afford their medications anymore and dying.

[Ahldagor]

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/11/terrorist-donald-trump-airport-bomber-estes-asheville/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Interesting read. Thanks for the share. Just have to point out that that FDR also manipulated the press to not have huge headlines, focus pieces, or anything but buried for stories about the beginning of the Holocaust because he didn't want US involvement in Europe (war was inevitable at that point tho').

[Ahldagor]

lmao i was a trumpette i knew the fat king wouldnt hunt

0 legislation 0 bills 0 change






aside from retired people in certain states not being able to afford their medications anymore and dying.

Trump's going to bank on the values-voters more in 2020, and do you think people are finally figuring out or having recollections from middle school about how the US government works?

[AzzarTheGod]

Trump's going to bank on the values-voters more in 2020, and do you think people are finally figuring out or having recollections from middle school about how the US government works?

its been a clinic for sure.

i would vote trump again because i dont support globalization or the TPP. all of that stuff is premature and doesn't benefit the people.

got nothing against globalism. its just that in 2017 it doesnt make sense except for foreign businessmen who have invested heavily into 3rd world countries (Soros)

[mickmoranis]

trumps definitely gonna win in 2020 you dont even have to favor him to know this.

[mickmoranis]

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/11/terrorist-donald-trump-airport-bomber-estes-asheville/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"The story didn’t go viral and Trump didn’t tweet about it because the bomb was not placed by an immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican"

this is the usual stupid libturd spew. meanwhile the country freaks out cus a white guy shoots up a country concert

this article is communist biggoted propaganda and is an example of the LOWSET bar libtardation has reduced your media to.

Author is a facebook poster and no real research or actual study was done in this garbage fire you libturds read to increase your self loathing.

[mickmoranis]

that feeling when liberals say freedom of speech isnt freedom from consequence but then they're like.. except wait!

http://www.knbr.com/2017/10/15/colin-kaepernick-files-grievance-for-collusion-against-nfl-owners-report/

[Pokesan]

"The story didn’t go viral and Trump didn’t tweet about it because the bomb was not placed by an immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican"

this is the usual stupid libturd spew. meanwhile the country freaks out cus a white guy shoots up a country concert

this article is communist biggoted propaganda and is an example of the LOWSET bar libtardation has reduced your media to.

Author is a facebook poster and no real research or actual study was done in this garbage fire you libturds read to increase your self loathing.

criticizing any author while citing naturalnews is absurd

kaep gonna win. he ain't gotta prove everyone, just prove two(team+team or team+league employee)

[mickmoranis]

criticizing any author while citing naturalnews is absurd

kaep gonna win. he ain't gotta prove everyone, just prove two(team+team or team+league employee)

shawn king is for upset 40 year old women sorry you like facebook posters who have zero credibility do you like starbucks as well

[AzzarTheGod]

u guys gonna play slappy face again. its fun 2 watch

wish i culd get in some slapfights but im more of an ELBOW THROWER

[Pokesan]

shawn king is for upset 40 year old women sorry you like facebook posters who have zero credibility do you like starbucks as well

dont see king in the article. laconfora is absolutely fake news tho hes a garbageman.

give me a list of qbs kaep is worse than. i dont think you even watch nfl and should therefore shutup :)

[Pokesan]

u guys gonna play slappy face again. its fun 2 watch

wish i culd get in some slapfights but im more of an ELBOW THROWER

u say ELBOW?

can u smell this??? (https://deadspin.com/golden-tate-scored-and-dropped-the-people-s-elbow-on-th-1819486513)

[Ahldagor]

None of y'all mentioning the Aramco IPO effecting the ME, why?

[Ahldagor]

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/60/66/54/12806973/3/1024x1024.jpg

[Rader]

Genuine question to Trump supporters: do you still think he is good, or is it just about making liberals angry at this point?

Fair question, but one can also ask Obamatards, did you really believe all of his sh!t or did you just like F ing with conservatives?

[Pokesan]

Fair question, but one can also ask Obamatards, did you really believe all of his sh!t or did you just like F ing with conservatives?

https://i.imgur.com/NLhE0yh.jpg

[mickmoranis]

and with #metoo a generation of snowflakes realize the world is not the same one their parents brought them up in, full of participation trophies and hot chocolate from every stranger.

[Pokesan]

and with #metoo a generation of snowflakes realize the world is not the same one their parents brought them up in, full of participation trophies and hot chocolate from every stranger.

friggin millenialls whining about getting raped lmao!!

[Raavak]

trumps definitely gonna win in 2020 you dont even have to favor him to know this.
A) He is doing what the people who elected him hoped he would do.
B) Democrats are doing absolutely nothing except take more and more radical stances, culling off whatever moderates still existed in the party. You can't win by shrinking your support.

Trump has shown to be resilient to media-created "mistakes", partially because the average citizen has been so ripped off by the mainstream media they just won't believe it anymore. Unless he makes a true mistake he is cruising into a 2nd term.

[mickmoranis]

friggin millenialls whining about getting raped lmao!!

yeah

everyone who posts metoo was raped

every woman on everyones facebook feed

every single woman on facebook

full blown raped

:rolleyes:

[Nibblewitz]

Identity politics now, tax reform later.

[Pokesan]

yeah

everyone who posts metoo was raped

every woman on everyones facebook feed

every single woman on facebook

full blown raped

:rolleyes:

hyperbole dawg. is laughing at sexual assault much different?

:rolleyes:

[mickmoranis]

hyperbole dawg. is laughing at sexual assault much different?

:rolleyes:

is laughing at sexual assault different than what? Raping someone? yes.

Is ignoring the fact that men suffer from sexual harassment at work every day too and suggesting that this is a gender issue the same as raping someone?

Yes. Because you're in all sincerity, suggesting that one group is less than another group and shaming another group into feeling worse than they already do.

If this was an all PEOPLE issue, instead of a gender/race issue, that libtards always like to turn this stuff into, then it would be different.

But because you want to put people into sexual orientation or minority skin color groups.

You're a biggot and a rapist.

[Priceline]

(literally vomited on keyboard)

reminder of the man y'all klansmen keep defending

The list of women that have come forward about Donald Trump;


Ninni Laaksonen, former Miss Finland. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt” in July 2006.
Jessica Drake. Said Trump grabbed and kissed her without consent, then offered her 10K for sex in 2006.
Karena Virginia. Says she was groped by Trump at the U.S. Open in 1998.
Cathy Heller. Says Trump grabbed her and attempted to kiss her at Mar-a-lago in 1997.
Summer Zervos. Apprentice contestant says Trump started kissing her and grabbing her breasts, began "thrusting his genitals." 2007.
Kristin Anderson. Said Trump reached under her skirt and grabbed her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s.
Jessica Leeds. Said Trump lifted up the armrest, grabbed her breasts and reached his hand up her skirt in the early 1980s.
Rachel Crooks. Says she was assaulted by Trump in an elevator in Trump Tower in 2005.
Mindy McGillivray. Says Trump groped her while she was attending a concert at Mar-a-lago in 2003.
Natasha Stoynoff. Says Trump pushed her against a wall and jammed his tongue down her throat at Mar-a-lago in 2005.
Jennifer Murphy. Apprentice contestant says Trump kissed her on the lips after a job interview in 2005.
Cassandra Searles. Says Trump grabbed her ass and invited her to his hotel room in 2013.
Temple Taggart McDowell. Former Miss Utah says Trump kissed her directly on the lips the first time she met him in 1997.
Jill Harth. Says Trump repeatedly sexually harassed her and groped her underneath a table in 1993.
“Jane Doe” or Katie J. In June, a California woman — “Jane Doe” ― filed a lawsuit alleging that Trump raped her at a party when she was 13 years old. Video testimony from Katie J, who accuses Trump of raping her at 13. 1994
Ivana Trump. In a 1992 deposition during their divorce, Trump’s first wife described an incident in which she says her then-husband forced her to have sex with him.

[Nibblewitz]

What happened to the golden rule?

[mickmoranis]

Ill have you know if that list makes you upset, you are a huge cuck.

[Raavak]

Priceline grabbed my ass. Offered me $1 for sex.

Yeah, Harvey Weinstein's list is at least real.

During the election campaign several "new" episodes of sexual abuse by Trump were reported. At least one was reported by a Clinton supporter who had actually never met Trump; but it made front page for a day!

[mickmoranis]

Literally every single person has been a "victim" of someone in a position of power advancing on them, every single one. Man, woman and child.

Women are the only ones that want a fucking trophy for it.

[Raavak]

You're either climbing up or you are someone else's step.
Been that way since the beginning of time.
No amount of crying, philosophizing, or grandstanding is going to change it... and actually probably just points you out as a convenient step.

[mickmoranis]

Metoo is just another example of libtards trying to seperate people by gender or race while feeling positive about themselves.

Its sickening how racist libcucks are while being more blind to it than the average conservative who knowingly admits they just dont like black American culture.

[Nibblewitz]

The status quo defense.

[mickmoranis]

The status quo defense.

it's called not being a snowflake participation trophy given cuck that finally leaves your parents nest to find out that the world is a harsh and unforgiving place, and then crying about it instead of getting on with your life and realizing you wont change anything by reminding your family that you were touched by a stranger on the bus once.

While taking the right for men who have felt the same to say that they have felt it too.

[Nibblewitz]

These social issues are just smoke and mirrors for the rejection of traditional capitalism.

[mickmoranis]

These social issues are just smoke and mirrors for the rejection of traditional capitalism.

its actually true, its all the effects of post modernism. Its not like a society fallingapart hasnt happened literally every. single. time. a society makes it through the strugle of building itself into a solid few generations of security.

We're a joke, a waste of real problems. The pathetic social issues of today, in an age of INSANELY positive and open civil rights, it's just laughable.

The amount of freedom we all have, ever creed, color, and sex, is through the fucking roof! Instead of applauding the work it took us to get here, what do we do? Shit all over it, blame other people, and generally act like anything that isnt contrarian to rational thinking is a waste of our time.

The entire nation is literally run by gen-xers and melinials, and we're sitting here blaming our problems on what? on the patriarchy? The establishment? The 1%? A bunch of things nearly every melinial and genxer is so far removed from, and not ONE of them is looking in the mirrror and saying how can I make MYSELF better.

Its a joke, its all smoke and mirrors, its all just the bottom 10% of the group, leading the rest of the group, cus the rest of the group is complacent and just reads posts, that corrupt them, written by the most INSANE 10% of BOTH the left and the right.

Seirously, get off of it. Its pathetic. 100% of social justice is the same joke it was 10 years ago, 5 and 2 and 1 years ago.

It's a joke.

Americans today, literally, not even like some of them or almost, they 100% believe, ACTUAL REAL NAZI'S ARE TAKING OVER AMERICA... do you realize what an extremist lunatic fear that is? If you think you're lucid, but you like posts that say you should punch a nazi, you need to take a step back and realize you have dementia.

Its time for black communities to take responsibility for black community problems, its time for white people to stop blaming other white people for other peoples problems and start working on themselves and its time for women to stop asking men to solve their issues with the workplace.

[Patriam1066]

ACTUAL REAL NAZI'S ARE TAKING OVER AMERICA

I'd be on their side if they ended subhuman immigration, obesity, diabetes, and single motherhood

[Nibblewitz]

My point is the attention of the masses is diverted to these social conflicts, and political organizations are herding these folks with buzz words as Mick pointed out. Even if they could articulate their ideas, these ideas would still have to be extruded through the Overton window.

We are not allowed to question our economic system in a public forum, just the fuck-ton of dysfunctions that come along with it.

[mickmoranis]

Of course someone that wants to end other peoples obesity, sugar consumption, and handle their parental issues, would be down with authoritarianism.

That's why I will use my second amendment to protect me from democratic socialism at all costs.

now patriam, dont confuse that with me saying that YOU are a democratic socialist (communist), but, 90% of what you suggested there is the policy of democratic socialism (communism) and by no means a problem that you should worry yourself with.

Of course someone who is down with democratic socialist values is down with authoritarian rule to enforce them, which is why ALL democratic socialists are in fact, future fascists & communists.

You simply cannot tell people how to live without authoritarianism.

Look at the rule of law. We have authoritarianism to enforce law, because if we didn't people would just steel your shit.

If without the police people would steel your shit, do you seriously believe that without police they wont consume sugar at rates you deem acceptable?

https://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif

[Patriam1066]

My point is the attention of the masses is diverted to these social conflicts, and political organizations are herding these folks with buzz words as Mick pointed out. Even if they could articulate their ideas, these ideas would still have to be extruded through the Overton window.

We are not allowed to question our economic system in a public forum, just the fuck-ton of dysfunctions that come along with it.

The system works fine, ask any Asian or Persian

You just don't have the character endowed by a two parent household to succeed within it. Try harder pussy and accept Jesus Christ into your heart. Alternatively, GB2A

[Patriam1066]

PS

Qassem Soleimani (Iranian Quds Force spymaster guy) went to Kurdistan and the PUK gave up Kirkuk without a fight. God damn my people really are the only ones who can stop (((them))), were clever and ruthless as fuck

[Rader]

Just read another dickwad article by a shit smoking libturd in Newsweek, it went something like this- Trump should be impeached (no surprise), Pence should immediately resign (doubtful), Ryan should choose Hillary as his VP (LOL) and then resign too, making Hillary Rodham Clinton the POTUS. Seriously, you F ing retarded Libturds are smoking some serious dope, you need to share this weed I want to be on that stuff NOW.

[Ahldagor]

Lol, you can actually see the moment McConnel shits himself.

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41646338/trump-denigrates-obama-over-false-fallen-soldier-claim

[Raavak]

Its time for black communities to take responsibility for black community problems
I believe that alot of the problems, especially in the inner city black community, but also elsewhere (like the Las Vegas shooter) is a breakdown in the family structure, due entirely to the government. The way the welfare system is right now that if a poor women gets pregnant she would be crazy to get married... she gets way more money staying single. But what happens when kids grow up without real father figures? Well, you are seeing it, and its only getting worse.

The US Congress is starting to look at welfare reform. Lets hope they get something meaningful done.

[mickmoranis]

I believe that alot of the problems, especially in the inner city black community, but also elsewhere (like the Las Vegas shooter) is a breakdown in the family structure, due entirely to the government. The way the welfare system is right now that if a poor women gets pregnant she would be crazy to get married... she gets way more money staying single. But what happens when kids grow up without real father figures? Well, you are seeing it, and its only getting worse.

The US Congress is starting to look at welfare reform. Lets hope they get something meaningful done.

I wont argue that there is a breakdown of the family structure in all fascets of american life, but I imagine its from a lot of factors, both social and political.

As far as in black communities, whats going on there is pretty fucking sad if you look at it objectively.

IMO we should increase police presence in gang and high crime areas by thousands of percent and then see what happens 10 years from now.

Its tough, cus a lot of families were ripped apart by pretty crappy policy and police enforcement, but, I think that is a fact of life, and those kids who have no father figures in their lives now live in a vacuum and you have to break the rest of the eggs to finish this omelette and we gotta jack up the police and make the area safe for the kids we imagine are trying to make it in this world without joining a gang, instead of protecting gang members and attacking police in the name of social justice.

[mickmoranis]

hey look low T suburban white kid with multiple level 60s on blue server

look at me I know stuff!

the quoted user is mad

[Raavak]

the quoted user is madHe's got a point.
Except the low T suburban white kid part. I do have 2 60s and I know stuff. I got pretty papers framed all over my wall telling me so.
The best part is I get to teach what I know to young minds ready for the truth.

[zodium]

It (https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/) is an interesting and somewhat macabre parlor game to play at a large gathering of one’s acquaintances: to speculate who in a showdown would go Nazi. By now, I think I know. I have gone through the experience many times—in Germany, in Austria, and in France. I have come to know the types: the born Nazis, the Nazis whom democracy itself has created, the certain-to-be fellow-travelers. And I also know those who never, under any conceivable circumstances, would become Nazis.

It is preposterous to think that they are divided by any racial characteristics. Germans may be more susceptible to Nazism than most people, but I doubt it. Jews are barred out, but it is an arbitrary ruling. I know lots of Jews who are born Nazis and many others who would heil Hitler tomorrow morning if given a chance. There are Jews who have repudiated their own ancestors in order to become “Honorary Aryans and Nazis”; there are full-blooded Jews who have enthusiastically entered Hitler’s secret service. Nazism has nothing to do with race and nationality. It appeals to a certain type of mind.

It is also, to an immense extent, the disease of a generation—the generation which was either young or unborn at the end of the last war. This is as true of Englishmen, Frenchmen, and Americans as of Germans. It is the disease of the so-called “lost generation.”

Sometimes I think there are direct biological factors at work—a type of education, feeding, and physical training which has produced a new kind of human being with an imbalance in his nature. He has been fed vitamins and filled with energies that are beyond the capacity of his intellect to discipline. He has been treated to forms of education which have released him from inhibitions. His body is vigorous. His mind is childish. His soul has been almost completely neglected.

At any rate, let us look round the room.

The gentleman standing beside the fireplace with an almost untouched glass of whiskey beside him on the mantelpiece is Mr. A, a descendant of one of the great American families. There has never been an American Blue Book without several persons of his surname in it. He is poor and earns his living as an editor. He has had a classical education, has a sound and cultivated taste in literature, painting, and music; has not a touch of snobbery in him; is full of humor, courtesy, and wit. He was a lieutenant in the World War, is a Republican in politics, but voted twice for Roosevelt, last time for Willkie. He is modest, not particularly brilliant, a staunch friend, and a man who greatly enjoys the company of pretty and witty women. His wife, whom he adored, is dead, and he will never remarry.

He has never attracted any attention because of outstanding bravery. But I will put my hand in the fire that nothing on earth could ever make him a Nazi. He would greatly dislike fighting them, but they could never convert him. . . . Why not?

Beside him stands Mr. B, a man of his own class, graduate of the same preparatory school and university, rich, a sportsman, owner of a famous racing stable, vice-president of a bank, married to a well-known society belle. He is a good fellow and extremely popular. But if America were going Nazi he would certainly join up, and early. Why? . . . Why the one and not the other?

Mr. A has a life that is established according to a certain form of personal behavior. Although he has no money, his unostentatious distinction and education have always assured him a position. He has never been engaged in sharp competition. He is a free man. I doubt whether ever in his life he has done anything he did not want to do or anything that was against his code. Nazism wouldn’t fit in with his standards and he has never become accustomed to making concessions.

Mr. B has risen beyond his real abilities by virtue of health, good looks, and being a good mixer. He married for money and he has done lots of other things for money. His code is not his own; it is that of his class—no worse, no better, He fits easily into whatever pattern is successful. That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would.

The saturnine man over there talking with a lovely French emigree is already a Nazi. Mr. C is a brilliant and embittered intellectual. He was a poor white-trash Southern boy, a scholarship student at two universities where he took all the scholastic honors but was never invited to join a fraternity. His brilliant gifts won for him successively government positions, partnership in a prominent law firm, and eventually a highly paid job as a Wall Street adviser. He has always moved among important people and always been socially on the periphery. His colleagues have admired his brains and exploited them, but they have seldom invited him—or his wife—to dinner.

He is a snob, loathing his own snobbery. He despises the men about him—he despises, for instance, Mr. B—because he knows that what he has had to achieve by relentless work men like B have won by knowing the right people. But his contempt is inextricably mingled with envy. Even more than he hates the class into which he has insecurely risen, does he hate the people from whom he came. He hates his mother and his father for being his parents. He loathes everything that reminds him of his origins and his humiliations. He is bitterly anti-Semitic because the social insecurity of the Jews reminds him of his own psychological insecurity.

Pity he has utterly erased from his nature, and joy he has never known. He has an ambition, bitter and burning. It is to rise to such an eminence that no one can ever again humiliate him. Not to rule but to be the secret ruler, pulling the strings of puppets created by his brains. Already some of them are talking his language—though they have never met him.

There he sits: he talks awkwardly rather than glibly; he is courteous. He commands a distant and cold respect. But he is a very dangerous man. Were he primitive and brutal he would be a criminal—a murderer. But he is subtle and cruel. He would rise high in a Nazi regime. It would need men just like him—intellectual and ruthless. But Mr. C is not a born Nazi. He is the product of a democracy hypocritically preaching social equality and practicing a carelessly brutal snobbery. He is a sensitive, gifted man who has been humiliated into nihilism. He would laugh to see heads roll.

I think young D over there is the only born Nazi in the room. Young D is the spoiled only son of a doting mother. He has never been crossed in his life. He spends his time at the game of seeing what he can get away with. He is constantly arrested for speeding and his mother pays the fines. He has been ruthless toward two wives and his mother pays the alimony. His life is spent in sensation-seeking and theatricality. He is utterly inconsiderate of everybody. He is very good-looking, in a vacuous, cavalier way, and inordinately vain. He would certainly fancy himself in a uniform that gave him a chance to swagger and lord it over others.

Mrs. E would go Nazi as sure as you are born. That statement surprises you? Mrs. E seems so sweet, so clinging, so cowed. She is. She is a masochist. She is married to a man who never ceases to humiliate her, to lord it over her, to treat her with less consideration than he does his dogs. He is a prominent scientist, and Mrs. E, who married him very young, has persuaded herself that he is a genius, and that there is something of superior womanliness in her utter lack of pride, in her doglike devotion. She speaks disapprovingly of other “masculine” or insufficiently devoted wives. Her husband, however, is bored to death with her. He neglects her completely and she is looking for someone else before whom to pour her ecstatic self-abasement. She will titillate with pleased excitement to the first popular hero who proclaims the basic subordination of women.

On the other hand, Mrs. F would never go Nazi. She is the most popular woman in the room, handsome, gay, witty, and full of the warmest emotion. She was a popular actress ten years ago; married very happily; promptly had four children in a row; has a charming house, is not rich but has no money cares, has never cut herself off from her own happy-go-lucky profession, and is full of sound health and sound common sense. All men try to make love to her; she laughs at them all, and her husband is amused. She has stood on her own feet since she was a child, she has enormously helped her husband’s career (he is a lawyer), she would ornament any drawing-room in any capital, and she is as American as ice cream and cake.

II

How about the butler who is passing the drinks? I look at James with amused eyes. James is safe. James has been butler to the ‘ighest aristocracy, considers all Nazis parvenus and communists, and has a very good sense for “people of quality.” He serves the quiet editor with that friendly air of equality which good servants always show toward those they consider good enough to serve, and he serves the horsy gent stiffly and coldly.

Bill, the grandson of the chauffeur, is helping serve to-night. He is a product of a Bronx public school and high school, and works at night like this to help himself through City College, where he is studying engineering. He is a “proletarian,” though you’d never guess it if you saw him without that white coat. He plays a crack game of tennis—has been a tennis tutor in summer resorts—swims superbly, gets straight A’s in his classes, and thinks America is okay and don’t let anybody say it isn’t. He had a brief period of Youth Congress communism, but it was like the measles. He was not taken in the draft because his eyes are not good enough, but he wants to design airplanes, “like Sikorsky.” He thinks Lindbergh is “just another pilot with a build-up and a rich wife” and that he is “always talking down America, like how we couldn’t lick Hitler if we wanted to.” At this point Bill snorts.

Mr. G is a very intellectual young man who was an infant prodigy. He has been concerned with general ideas since the age of ten and has one of those minds that can scintillatingly rationalize everything. I have known him for ten years and in that time have heard him enthusiastically explain Marx, social credit, technocracy, Keynesian economics, Chestertonian distributism, and everything else one can imagine. Mr. G will never be a Nazi, because he will never be anything. His brain operates quite apart from the rest of his apparatus. He will certainly be able, however, fully to explain and apologize for Nazism if it ever comes along. But Mr. G is always a “deviationist.” When he played with communism he was a Trotskyist; when he talked of Keynes it was to suggest improvement; Chesterton’s economic ideas were all right but he was too bound to Catholic philosophy. So we may be sure that Mr. G would be a Nazi with purse-lipped qualifications. He would certainly be purged.

H is an historian and biographer. He is American of Dutch ancestry born and reared in the Middle West. He has been in love with America all his life. He can recite whole chapters of Thoreau and volumes of American poetry, from Emerson to Steve Benet. He knows Jefferson’s letters, Hamilton’s papers, Lincoln’s speeches. He is a collector of early American furniture, lives in New England, runs a farm for a hobby and doesn’t lose much money on it, and loathes parties like this one. He has a ribald and manly sense of humor, is unconventional and lost a college professorship because of a love affair. Afterward he married the lady and has lived happily ever afterward as the wages of sin.

H has never doubted his own authentic Americanism for one instant. This is his country, and he knows it from Acadia to Zenith. His ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War and in all the wars since. He is certainly an intellectual, but an intellectual smelling slightly of cow barns and damp tweeds. He is the most good-natured and genial man alive, but if anyone ever tries to make this country over into an imitation of Hitler’s, Mussolini’s, or Petain’s systems H will grab a gun and fight. Though H’s liberalism will not permit him to say it, it is his secret conviction that nobody whose ancestors have not been in this country since before the Civil War really understands America or would really fight for it against Nazism or any other foreign ism in a showdown.

But H is wrong. There is one other person in the room who would fight alongside H and he is not even an American citizen. He is a young German emigre, whom I brought along to the party. The people in the room look at him rather askance because he is so Germanic, so very blond-haired, so very blue-eyed, so tanned that somehow you expect him to be wearing shorts. He looks like the model of a Nazi. His English is flawed—he learned it only five years ago. He comes from an old East Prussian family; he was a member of the post-war Youth Movement and afterward of the Republican “Reichsbanner.” All his German friends went Nazi—without exception. He hiked to Switzerland penniless, there pursued his studies in New Testament Greek, sat under the great Protestant theologian, Karl Barth, came to America through the assistance of an American friend whom he had met in a university, got a job teaching the classics in a fashionable private school; quit, and is working now in an airplane factory—working on the night shift to make planes to send to Britain to defeat Germany. He has devoured volumes of American history, knows Whitman by heart, wonders why so few Americans have ever really read the Federalist papers, believes in the United States of Europe, the Union of the English-speaking world, and the coming democratic revolution all over the earth. He believes that America is the country of Creative Evolution once it shakes off its middle-class complacency, its bureaucratized industry, its tentacle-like and spreading government, and sets itself innerly free.

The people in the room think he is not an American, but he is more American than almost any of them. He has discovered America and his spirit is the spirit of the pioneers. He is furious with America because it does not realize its strength and beauty and power. He talks about the workmen in the factory where he is employed. . . . He took the job “in order to understand the real America.” He thinks the men are wonderful. “Why don’t you American in- tellectuals ever get to them; talk to them?”

I grin bitterly to myself, thinking that if we ever got into war with the Nazis he would probably be interned, while Mr. B and Mr. G and Mrs. E would be spreading defeatism at all such parties as this one. “Of course I don’t like Hitler but . . .”

Mr. J over there is a Jew. Mr. J is a very important man. He is immensely rich—he has made a fortune through a dozen directorates in various companies, through a fabulous marriage, through a speculative flair, and through a native gift for money and a native love of power. He is intelligent and arrogant. He seldom associates with Jews. He deplores any mention of the “Jewish question.” He believes that Hitler “should not be judged from the standpoint of anti-Semitism.” He thinks that “the Jews should be reserved on all political questions.” He considers Roosevelt “an enemy of business.” He thinks “It was a serious blow to the Jews that Frankfurter should have been appointed to the Supreme Court.”

The saturnine Mr. C—the real Nazi in the room—engages him in a flatteringly attentive conversation. Mr. J agrees with Mr. C wholly. Mr. J is definitely attracted by Mr. C. He goes out of his way to ask his name—they have never met before. “A very intelligent man.”

Mr. K contemplates the scene with a sad humor in his expressive eyes. Mr. K is also a Jew. Mr. K is a Jew from the South. He speaks with a Southern drawl. He tells inimitable stories. Ten years ago he owned a very successful business that he had built up from scratch. He sold it for a handsome price, settled his indigent relatives in business, and now enjoys an income for himself of about fifty dollars a week. At forty he began to write articles about odd and out-of-the-way places in American life. A bachelor, and a sad man who makes everybody laugh, he travels continually, knows America from a thousand different facets, and loves it in a quiet, deep, unostentatious way. He is a great friend of H, the biographer. Like H, his ancestors have been in this country since long before the Civil War. He is attracted to the young German. By and by they are together in the drawing-room. The impeccable gentleman of New England, the country-man—intellectual of the Middle West, the happy woman whom the gods love, the young German, the quiet, poised Jew from the South. And over on the other side are the others.

Mr. L has just come in. Mr. L is a lion these days. My hostess was all of a dither when she told me on the telephone, “ . . . and L is coming. You know it’s dreadfully hard to get him.” L is a very powerful labor leader. “My dear, he is a man of the people, but really fascinating.“ L is a man of the people and just exactly as fascinating as my horsy, bank vice-president, on-the-make acquaintance over there, and for the same reasons and in the same way. L makes speeches about the “third of the nation,” and L has made a darned good thing for himself out of championing the oppressed. He has the best car of anyone in this room; salary means nothing to him because he lives on an expense account. He agrees with the very largest and most powerful industrialists in the country that it is the business of the strong to boss the weak, and he has made collective bargaining into a legal compulsion to appoint him or his henchmen as “labor’s” agents, with the power to tax pay envelopes and do what they please with the money. L is the strongest natural-born Nazi in this room. Mr. B regards him with contempt tempered by hatred. Mr. B will use him. L is already parroting B’s speeches. He has the brains of Neanderthal man, but he has an infallible instinct for power. In private conversation he denounces the Jews as “parasites.” No one has ever asked him what are the creative functions of a highly paid agent, who takes a percentage off the labor of millions of men, and distributes it where and as it may add to his own political power.

III

It’s fun—a macabre sort of fun—this parlor game of “Who Goes Nazi?” And it simplifies things—asking the question in regard to specific personalities.

Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. They may be the gentle philosopher whose name is in the Blue Book, or Bill from City College to whom democracy gave a chance to design airplanes—you’ll never make Nazis out of them. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis.

Believe me, nice people don’t go Nazi. Their race, color, creed, or social condition is not the criterion. It is something in them.

Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t-whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi. It’s an amusing game. Try it at the next big party you go to.

[Spyder73]

You copy/pasted Nazi 34 times also

[Patriam1066]

its always the most distant and detached / worthless people who become teachers

If you're big Japan can you go back to your old style

PS if it's not you can you let me know who is big J. Thanks and God bless!

[Jarnauga]

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[Rader]

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fucking sheeps.. :p

I think we all already knew what you like to F.

[Ahldagor]

It (https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/) is an interesting and somewhat macabre parlor game to play at a large gathering of one’s acquaintances: to speculate who in a showdown would go Nazi. By now, I think I know. I have gone through the experience many times—in Germany, in Austria, and in France. I have come to know the types: the born Nazis, the Nazis whom democracy itself has created, the certain-to-be fellow-travelers. And I also know those who never, under any conceivable circumstances, would become Nazis.

It is preposterous to think that they are divided by any racial characteristics. Germans may be more susceptible to Nazism than most people, but I doubt it. Jews are barred out, but it is an arbitrary ruling. I know lots of Jews who are born Nazis and many others who would heil Hitler tomorrow morning if given a chance. There are Jews who have repudiated their own ancestors in order to become “Honorary Aryans and Nazis”; there are full-blooded Jews who have enthusiastically entered Hitler’s secret service. Nazism has nothing to do with race and nationality. It appeals to a certain type of mind.

It is also, to an immense extent, the disease of a generation—the generation which was either young or unborn at the end of the last war. This is as true of Englishmen, Frenchmen, and Americans as of Germans. It is the disease of the so-called “lost generation.”

Sometimes I think there are direct biological factors at work—a type of education, feeding, and physical training which has produced a new kind of human being with an imbalance in his nature. He has been fed vitamins and filled with energies that are beyond the capacity of his intellect to discipline. He has been treated to forms of education which have released him from inhibitions. His body is vigorous. His mind is childish. His soul has been almost completely neglected.

At any rate, let us look round the room.

The gentleman standing beside the fireplace with an almost untouched glass of whiskey beside him on the mantelpiece is Mr. A, a descendant of one of the great American families. There has never been an American Blue Book without several persons of his surname in it. He is poor and earns his living as an editor. He has had a classical education, has a sound and cultivated taste in literature, painting, and music; has not a touch of snobbery in him; is full of humor, courtesy, and wit. He was a lieutenant in the World War, is a Republican in politics, but voted twice for Roosevelt, last time for Willkie. He is modest, not particularly brilliant, a staunch friend, and a man who greatly enjoys the company of pretty and witty women. His wife, whom he adored, is dead, and he will never remarry.

He has never attracted any attention because of outstanding bravery. But I will put my hand in the fire that nothing on earth could ever make him a Nazi. He would greatly dislike fighting them, but they could never convert him. . . . Why not?

Beside him stands Mr. B, a man of his own class, graduate of the same preparatory school and university, rich, a sportsman, owner of a famous racing stable, vice-president of a bank, married to a well-known society belle. He is a good fellow and extremely popular. But if America were going Nazi he would certainly join up, and early. Why? . . . Why the one and not the other?

Mr. A has a life that is established according to a certain form of personal behavior. Although he has no money, his unostentatious distinction and education have always assured him a position. He has never been engaged in sharp competition. He is a free man. I doubt whether ever in his life he has done anything he did not want to do or anything that was against his code. Nazism wouldn’t fit in with his standards and he has never become accustomed to making concessions.

Mr. B has risen beyond his real abilities by virtue of health, good looks, and being a good mixer. He married for money and he has done lots of other things for money. His code is not his own; it is that of his class—no worse, no better, He fits easily into whatever pattern is successful. That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would.

The saturnine man over there talking with a lovely French emigree is already a Nazi. Mr. C is a brilliant and embittered intellectual. He was a poor white-trash Southern boy, a scholarship student at two universities where he took all the scholastic honors but was never invited to join a fraternity. His brilliant gifts won for him successively government positions, partnership in a prominent law firm, and eventually a highly paid job as a Wall Street adviser. He has always moved among important people and always been socially on the periphery. His colleagues have admired his brains and exploited them, but they have seldom invited him—or his wife—to dinner.

He is a snob, loathing his own snobbery. He despises the men about him—he despises, for instance, Mr. B—because he knows that what he has had to achieve by relentless work men like B have won by knowing the right people. But his contempt is inextricably mingled with envy. Even more than he hates the class into which he has insecurely risen, does he hate the people from whom he came. He hates his mother and his father for being his parents. He loathes everything that reminds him of his origins and his humiliations. He is bitterly anti-Semitic because the social insecurity of the Jews reminds him of his own psychological insecurity.

Pity he has utterly erased from his nature, and joy he has never known. He has an ambition, bitter and burning. It is to rise to such an eminence that no one can ever again humiliate him. Not to rule but to be the secret ruler, pulling the strings of puppets created by his brains. Already some of them are talking his language—though they have never met him.

There he sits: he talks awkwardly rather than glibly; he is courteous. He commands a distant and cold respect. But he is a very dangerous man. Were he primitive and brutal he would be a criminal—a murderer. But he is subtle and cruel. He would rise high in a Nazi regime. It would need men just like him—intellectual and ruthless. But Mr. C is not a born Nazi. He is the product of a democracy hypocritically preaching social equality and practicing a carelessly brutal snobbery. He is a sensitive, gifted man who has been humiliated into nihilism. He would laugh to see heads roll.

I think young D over there is the only born Nazi in the room. Young D is the spoiled only son of a doting mother. He has never been crossed in his life. He spends his time at the game of seeing what he can get away with. He is constantly arrested for speeding and his mother pays the fines. He has been ruthless toward two wives and his mother pays the alimony. His life is spent in sensation-seeking and theatricality. He is utterly inconsiderate of everybody. He is very good-looking, in a vacuous, cavalier way, and inordinately vain. He would certainly fancy himself in a uniform that gave him a chance to swagger and lord it over others.

Mrs. E would go Nazi as sure as you are born. That statement surprises you? Mrs. E seems so sweet, so clinging, so cowed. She is. She is a masochist. She is married to a man who never ceases to humiliate her, to lord it over her, to treat her with less consideration than he does his dogs. He is a prominent scientist, and Mrs. E, who married him very young, has persuaded herself that he is a genius, and that there is something of superior womanliness in her utter lack of pride, in her doglike devotion. She speaks disapprovingly of other “masculine” or insufficiently devoted wives. Her husband, however, is bored to death with her. He neglects her completely and she is looking for someone else before whom to pour her ecstatic self-abasement. She will titillate with pleased excitement to the first popular hero who proclaims the basic subordination of women.

On the other hand, Mrs. F would never go Nazi. She is the most popular woman in the room, handsome, gay, witty, and full of the warmest emotion. She was a popular actress ten years ago; married very happily; promptly had four children in a row; has a charming house, is not rich but has no money cares, has never cut herself off from her own happy-go-lucky profession, and is full of sound health and sound common sense. All men try to make love to her; she laughs at them all, and her husband is amused. She has stood on her own feet since she was a child, she has enormously helped her husband’s career (he is a lawyer), she would ornament any drawing-room in any capital, and she is as American as ice cream and cake.

II

How about the butler who is passing the drinks? I look at James with amused eyes. James is safe. James has been butler to the ‘ighest aristocracy, considers all Nazis parvenus and communists, and has a very good sense for “people of quality.” He serves the quiet editor with that friendly air of equality which good servants always show toward those they consider good enough to serve, and he serves the horsy gent stiffly and coldly.

Bill, the grandson of the chauffeur, is helping serve to-night. He is a product of a Bronx public school and high school, and works at night like this to help himself through City College, where he is studying engineering. He is a “proletarian,” though you’d never guess it if you saw him without that white coat. He plays a crack game of tennis—has been a tennis tutor in summer resorts—swims superbly, gets straight A’s in his classes, and thinks America is okay and don’t let anybody say it isn’t. He had a brief period of Youth Congress communism, but it was like the measles. He was not taken in the draft because his eyes are not good enough, but he wants to design airplanes, “like Sikorsky.” He thinks Lindbergh is “just another pilot with a build-up and a rich wife” and that he is “always talking down America, like how we couldn’t lick Hitler if we wanted to.” At this point Bill snorts.

Mr. G is a very intellectual young man who was an infant prodigy. He has been concerned with general ideas since the age of ten and has one of those minds that can scintillatingly rationalize everything. I have known him for ten years and in that time have heard him enthusiastically explain Marx, social credit, technocracy, Keynesian economics, Chestertonian distributism, and everything else one can imagine. Mr. G will never be a Nazi, because he will never be anything. His brain operates quite apart from the rest of his apparatus. He will certainly be able, however, fully to explain and apologize for Nazism if it ever comes along. But Mr. G is always a “deviationist.” When he played with communism he was a Trotskyist; when he talked of Keynes it was to suggest improvement; Chesterton’s economic ideas were all right but he was too bound to Catholic philosophy. So we may be sure that Mr. G would be a Nazi with purse-lipped qualifications. He would certainly be purged.

H is an historian and biographer. He is American of Dutch ancestry born and reared in the Middle West. He has been in love with America all his life. He can recite whole chapters of Thoreau and volumes of American poetry, from Emerson to Steve Benet. He knows Jefferson’s letters, Hamilton’s papers, Lincoln’s speeches. He is a collector of early American furniture, lives in New England, runs a farm for a hobby and doesn’t lose much money on it, and loathes parties like this one. He has a ribald and manly sense of humor, is unconventional and lost a college professorship because of a love affair. Afterward he married the lady and has lived happily ever afterward as the wages of sin.

H has never doubted his own authentic Americanism for one instant. This is his country, and he knows it from Acadia to Zenith. His ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War and in all the wars since. He is certainly an intellectual, but an intellectual smelling slightly of cow barns and damp tweeds. He is the most good-natured and genial man alive, but if anyone ever tries to make this country over into an imitation of Hitler’s, Mussolini’s, or Petain’s systems H will grab a gun and fight. Though H’s liberalism will not permit him to say it, it is his secret conviction that nobody whose ancestors have not been in this country since before the Civil War really understands America or would really fight for it against Nazism or any other foreign ism in a showdown.

But H is wrong. There is one other person in the room who would fight alongside H and he is not even an American citizen. He is a young German emigre, whom I brought along to the party. The people in the room look at him rather askance because he is so Germanic, so very blond-haired, so very blue-eyed, so tanned that somehow you expect him to be wearing shorts. He looks like the model of a Nazi. His English is flawed—he learned it only five years ago. He comes from an old East Prussian family; he was a member of the post-war Youth Movement and afterward of the Republican “Reichsbanner.” All his German friends went Nazi—without exception. He hiked to Switzerland penniless, there pursued his studies in New Testament Greek, sat under the great Protestant theologian, Karl Barth, came to America through the assistance of an American friend whom he had met in a university, got a job teaching the classics in a fashionable private school; quit, and is working now in an airplane factory—working on the night shift to make planes to send to Britain to defeat Germany. He has devoured volumes of American history, knows Whitman by heart, wonders why so few Americans have ever really read the Federalist papers, believes in the United States of Europe, the Union of the English-speaking world, and the coming democratic revolution all over the earth. He believes that America is the country of Creative Evolution once it shakes off its middle-class complacency, its bureaucratized industry, its tentacle-like and spreading government, and sets itself innerly free.

The people in the room think he is not an American, but he is more American than almost any of them. He has discovered America and his spirit is the spirit of the pioneers. He is furious with America because it does not realize its strength and beauty and power. He talks about the workmen in the factory where he is employed. . . . He took the job “in order to understand the real America.” He thinks the men are wonderful. “Why don’t you American in- tellectuals ever get to them; talk to them?”

I grin bitterly to myself, thinking that if we ever got into war with the Nazis he would probably be interned, while Mr. B and Mr. G and Mrs. E would be spreading defeatism at all such parties as this one. “Of course I don’t like Hitler but . . .”

Mr. J over there is a Jew. Mr. J is a very important man. He is immensely rich—he has made a fortune through a dozen directorates in various companies, through a fabulous marriage, through a speculative flair, and through a native gift for money and a native love of power. He is intelligent and arrogant. He seldom associates with Jews. He deplores any mention of the “Jewish question.” He believes that Hitler “should not be judged from the standpoint of anti-Semitism.” He thinks that “the Jews should be reserved on all political questions.” He considers Roosevelt “an enemy of business.” He thinks “It was a serious blow to the Jews that Frankfurter should have been appointed to the Supreme Court.”

The saturnine Mr. C—the real Nazi in the room—engages him in a flatteringly attentive conversation. Mr. J agrees with Mr. C wholly. Mr. J is definitely attracted by Mr. C. He goes out of his way to ask his name—they have never met before. “A very intelligent man.”

Mr. K contemplates the scene with a sad humor in his expressive eyes. Mr. K is also a Jew. Mr. K is a Jew from the South. He speaks with a Southern drawl. He tells inimitable stories. Ten years ago he owned a very successful business that he had built up from scratch. He sold it for a handsome price, settled his indigent relatives in business, and now enjoys an income for himself of about fifty dollars a week. At forty he began to write articles about odd and out-of-the-way places in American life. A bachelor, and a sad man who makes everybody laugh, he travels continually, knows America from a thousand different facets, and loves it in a quiet, deep, unostentatious way. He is a great friend of H, the biographer. Like H, his ancestors have been in this country since long before the Civil War. He is attracted to the young German. By and by they are together in the drawing-room. The impeccable gentleman of New England, the country-man—intellectual of the Middle West, the happy woman whom the gods love, the young German, the quiet, poised Jew from the South. And over on the other side are the others.

Mr. L has just come in. Mr. L is a lion these days. My hostess was all of a dither when she told me on the telephone, “ . . . and L is coming. You know it’s dreadfully hard to get him.” L is a very powerful labor leader. “My dear, he is a man of the people, but really fascinating.“ L is a man of the people and just exactly as fascinating as my horsy, bank vice-president, on-the-make acquaintance over there, and for the same reasons and in the same way. L makes speeches about the “third of the nation,” and L has made a darned good thing for himself out of championing the oppressed. He has the best car of anyone in this room; salary means nothing to him because he lives on an expense account. He agrees with the very largest and most powerful industrialists in the country that it is the business of the strong to boss the weak, and he has made collective bargaining into a legal compulsion to appoint him or his henchmen as “labor’s” agents, with the power to tax pay envelopes and do what they please with the money. L is the strongest natural-born Nazi in this room. Mr. B regards him with contempt tempered by hatred. Mr. B will use him. L is already parroting B’s speeches. He has the brains of Neanderthal man, but he has an infallible instinct for power. In private conversation he denounces the Jews as “parasites.” No one has ever asked him what are the creative functions of a highly paid agent, who takes a percentage off the labor of millions of men, and distributes it where and as it may add to his own political power.

III

It’s fun—a macabre sort of fun—this parlor game of “Who Goes Nazi?” And it simplifies things—asking the question in regard to specific personalities.

Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. They may be the gentle philosopher whose name is in the Blue Book, or Bill from City College to whom democracy gave a chance to design airplanes—you’ll never make Nazis out of them. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis.

Believe me, nice people don’t go Nazi. Their race, color, creed, or social condition is not the criterion. It is something in them.

Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t-whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi. It’s an amusing game. Try it at the next big party you go to.

What or where is this from?

[AzzarTheGod]

It (https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/) is an interesting and somewhat macabre parlor game to play at a large gathering of one’s acquaintances: to speculate who in a showdown would go Nazi. By now, I think I know. I have gone through the experience many times—in Germany, in Austria, and in France. I have come to know the types: the born Nazis, the Nazis whom democracy itself has created, the certain-to-be fellow-travelers. And I also know those who never, under any conceivable circumstances, would become Nazis.

It is preposterous to think that they are divided by any racial characteristics. Germans may be more susceptible to Nazism than most people, but I doubt it. Jews are barred out, but it is an arbitrary ruling. I know lots of Jews who are born Nazis and many others who would heil Hitler tomorrow morning if given a chance. There are Jews who have repudiated their own ancestors in order to become “Honorary Aryans and Nazis”; there are full-blooded Jews who have enthusiastically entered Hitler’s secret service. Nazism has nothing to do with race and nationality. It appeals to a certain type of mind.

It is also, to an immense extent, the disease of a generation—the generation which was either young or unborn at the end of the last war. This is as true of Englishmen, Frenchmen, and Americans as of Germans. It is the disease of the so-called “lost generation.”

Sometimes I think there are direct biological factors at work—a type of education, feeding, and physical training which has produced a new kind of human being with an imbalance in his nature. He has been fed vitamins and filled with energies that are beyond the capacity of his intellect to discipline. He has been treated to forms of education which have released him from inhibitions. His body is vigorous. His mind is childish. His soul has been almost completely neglected.

At any rate, let us look round the room.

The gentleman standing beside the fireplace with an almost untouched glass of whiskey beside him on the mantelpiece is Mr. A, a descendant of one of the great American families. There has never been an American Blue Book without several persons of his surname in it. He is poor and earns his living as an editor. He has had a classical education, has a sound and cultivated taste in literature, painting, and music; has not a touch of snobbery in him; is full of humor, courtesy, and wit. He was a lieutenant in the World War, is a Republican in politics, but voted twice for Roosevelt, last time for Willkie. He is modest, not particularly brilliant, a staunch friend, and a man who greatly enjoys the company of pretty and witty women. His wife, whom he adored, is dead, and he will never remarry.

He has never attracted any attention because of outstanding bravery. But I will put my hand in the fire that nothing on earth could ever make him a Nazi. He would greatly dislike fighting them, but they could never convert him. . . . Why not?

Beside him stands Mr. B, a man of his own class, graduate of the same preparatory school and university, rich, a sportsman, owner of a famous racing stable, vice-president of a bank, married to a well-known society belle. He is a good fellow and extremely popular. But if America were going Nazi he would certainly join up, and early. Why? . . . Why the one and not the other?

Mr. A has a life that is established according to a certain form of personal behavior. Although he has no money, his unostentatious distinction and education have always assured him a position. He has never been engaged in sharp competition. He is a free man. I doubt whether ever in his life he has done anything he did not want to do or anything that was against his code. Nazism wouldn’t fit in with his standards and he has never become accustomed to making concessions.

Mr. B has risen beyond his real abilities by virtue of health, good looks, and being a good mixer. He married for money and he has done lots of other things for money. His code is not his own; it is that of his class—no worse, no better, He fits easily into whatever pattern is successful. That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would.

The saturnine man over there talking with a lovely French emigree is already a Nazi. Mr. C is a brilliant and embittered intellectual. He was a poor white-trash Southern boy, a scholarship student at two universities where he took all the scholastic honors but was never invited to join a fraternity. His brilliant gifts won for him successively government positions, partnership in a prominent law firm, and eventually a highly paid job as a Wall Street adviser. He has always moved among important people and always been socially on the periphery. His colleagues have admired his brains and exploited them, but they have seldom invited him—or his wife—to dinner.

He is a snob, loathing his own snobbery. He despises the men about him—he despises, for instance, Mr. B—because he knows that what he has had to achieve by relentless work men like B have won by knowing the right people. But his contempt is inextricably mingled with envy. Even more than he hates the class into which he has insecurely risen, does he hate the people from whom he came. He hates his mother and his father for being his parents. He loathes everything that reminds him of his origins and his humiliations. He is bitterly anti-Semitic because the social insecurity of the Jews reminds him of his own psychological insecurity.

Pity he has utterly erased from his nature, and joy he has never known. He has an ambition, bitter and burning. It is to rise to such an eminence that no one can ever again humiliate him. Not to rule but to be the secret ruler, pulling the strings of puppets created by his brains. Already some of them are talking his language—though they have never met him.

There he sits: he talks awkwardly rather than glibly; he is courteous. He commands a distant and cold respect. But he is a very dangerous man. Were he primitive and brutal he would be a criminal—a murderer. But he is subtle and cruel. He would rise high in a Nazi regime. It would need men just like him—intellectual and ruthless. But Mr. C is not a born Nazi. He is the product of a democracy hypocritically preaching social equality and practicing a carelessly brutal snobbery. He is a sensitive, gifted man who has been humiliated into nihilism. He would laugh to see heads roll.

I think young D over there is the only born Nazi in the room. Young D is the spoiled only son of a doting mother. He has never been crossed in his life. He spends his time at the game of seeing what he can get away with. He is constantly arrested for speeding and his mother pays the fines. He has been ruthless toward two wives and his mother pays the alimony. His life is spent in sensation-seeking and theatricality. He is utterly inconsiderate of everybody. He is very good-looking, in a vacuous, cavalier way, and inordinately vain. He would certainly fancy himself in a uniform that gave him a chance to swagger and lord it over others.

Mrs. E would go Nazi as sure as you are born. That statement surprises you? Mrs. E seems so sweet, so clinging, so cowed. She is. She is a masochist. She is married to a man who never ceases to humiliate her, to lord it over her, to treat her with less consideration than he does his dogs. He is a prominent scientist, and Mrs. E, who married him very young, has persuaded herself that he is a genius, and that there is something of superior womanliness in her utter lack of pride, in her doglike devotion. She speaks disapprovingly of other “masculine” or insufficiently devoted wives. Her husband, however, is bored to death with her. He neglects her completely and she is looking for someone else before whom to pour her ecstatic self-abasement. She will titillate with pleased excitement to the first popular hero who proclaims the basic subordination of women.

On the other hand, Mrs. F would never go Nazi. She is the most popular woman in the room, handsome, gay, witty, and full of the warmest emotion. She was a popular actress ten years ago; married very happily; promptly had four children in a row; has a charming house, is not rich but has no money cares, has never cut herself off from her own happy-go-lucky profession, and is full of sound health and sound common sense. All men try to make love to her; she laughs at them all, and her husband is amused. She has stood on her own feet since she was a child, she has enormously helped her husband’s career (he is a lawyer), she would ornament any drawing-room in any capital, and she is as American as ice cream and cake.

II

How about the butler who is passing the drinks? I look at James with amused eyes. James is safe. James has been butler to the ‘ighest aristocracy, considers all Nazis parvenus and communists, and has a very good sense for “people of quality.” He serves the quiet editor with that friendly air of equality which good servants always show toward those they consider good enough to serve, and he serves the horsy gent stiffly and coldly.

Bill, the grandson of the chauffeur, is helping serve to-night. He is a product of a Bronx public school and high school, and works at night like this to help himself through City College, where he is studying engineering. He is a “proletarian,” though you’d never guess it if you saw him without that white coat. He plays a crack game of tennis—has been a tennis tutor in summer resorts—swims superbly, gets straight A’s in his classes, and thinks America is okay and don’t let anybody say it isn’t. He had a brief period of Youth Congress communism, but it was like the measles. He was not taken in the draft because his eyes are not good enough, but he wants to design airplanes, “like Sikorsky.” He thinks Lindbergh is “just another pilot with a build-up and a rich wife” and that he is “always talking down America, like how we couldn’t lick Hitler if we wanted to.” At this point Bill snorts.

Mr. G is a very intellectual young man who was an infant prodigy. He has been concerned with general ideas since the age of ten and has one of those minds that can scintillatingly rationalize everything. I have known him for ten years and in that time have heard him enthusiastically explain Marx, social credit, technocracy, Keynesian economics, Chestertonian distributism, and everything else one can imagine. Mr. G will never be a Nazi, because he will never be anything. His brain operates quite apart from the rest of his apparatus. He will certainly be able, however, fully to explain and apologize for Nazism if it ever comes along. But Mr. G is always a “deviationist.” When he played with communism he was a Trotskyist; when he talked of Keynes it was to suggest improvement; Chesterton’s economic ideas were all right but he was too bound to Catholic philosophy. So we may be sure that Mr. G would be a Nazi with purse-lipped qualifications. He would certainly be purged.

H is an historian and biographer. He is American of Dutch ancestry born and reared in the Middle West. He has been in love with America all his life. He can recite whole chapters of Thoreau and volumes of American poetry, from Emerson to Steve Benet. He knows Jefferson’s letters, Hamilton’s papers, Lincoln’s speeches. He is a collector of early American furniture, lives in New England, runs a farm for a hobby and doesn’t lose much money on it, and loathes parties like this one. He has a ribald and manly sense of humor, is unconventional and lost a college professorship because of a love affair. Afterward he married the lady and has lived happily ever afterward as the wages of sin.

H has never doubted his own authentic Americanism for one instant. This is his country, and he knows it from Acadia to Zenith. His ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War and in all the wars since. He is certainly an intellectual, but an intellectual smelling slightly of cow barns and damp tweeds. He is the most good-natured and genial man alive, but if anyone ever tries to make this country over into an imitation of Hitler’s, Mussolini’s, or Petain’s systems H will grab a gun and fight. Though H’s liberalism will not permit him to say it, it is his secret conviction that nobody whose ancestors have not been in this country since before the Civil War really understands America or would really fight for it against Nazism or any other foreign ism in a showdown.

But H is wrong. There is one other person in the room who would fight alongside H and he is not even an American citizen. He is a young German emigre, whom I brought along to the party. The people in the room look at him rather askance because he is so Germanic, so very blond-haired, so very blue-eyed, so tanned that somehow you expect him to be wearing shorts. He looks like the model of a Nazi. His English is flawed—he learned it only five years ago. He comes from an old East Prussian family; he was a member of the post-war Youth Movement and afterward of the Republican “Reichsbanner.” All his German friends went Nazi—without exception. He hiked to Switzerland penniless, there pursued his studies in New Testament Greek, sat under the great Protestant theologian, Karl Barth, came to America through the assistance of an American friend whom he had met in a university, got a job teaching the classics in a fashionable private school; quit, and is working now in an airplane factory—working on the night shift to make planes to send to Britain to defeat Germany. He has devoured volumes of American history, knows Whitman by heart, wonders why so few Americans have ever really read the Federalist papers, believes in the United States of Europe, the Union of the English-speaking world, and the coming democratic revolution all over the earth. He believes that America is the country of Creative Evolution once it shakes off its middle-class complacency, its bureaucratized industry, its tentacle-like and spreading government, and sets itself innerly free.

The people in the room think he is not an American, but he is more American than almost any of them. He has discovered America and his spirit is the spirit of the pioneers. He is furious with America because it does not realize its strength and beauty and power. He talks about the workmen in the factory where he is employed. . . . He took the job “in order to understand the real America.” He thinks the men are wonderful. “Why don’t you American in- tellectuals ever get to them; talk to them?”

I grin bitterly to myself, thinking that if we ever got into war with the Nazis he would probably be interned, while Mr. B and Mr. G and Mrs. E would be spreading defeatism at all such parties as this one. “Of course I don’t like Hitler but . . .”

Mr. J over there is a Jew. Mr. J is a very important man. He is immensely rich—he has made a fortune through a dozen directorates in various companies, through a fabulous marriage, through a speculative flair, and through a native gift for money and a native love of power. He is intelligent and arrogant. He seldom associates with Jews. He deplores any mention of the “Jewish question.” He believes that Hitler “should not be judged from the standpoint of anti-Semitism.” He thinks that “the Jews should be reserved on all political questions.” He considers Roosevelt “an enemy of business.” He thinks “It was a serious blow to the Jews that Frankfurter should have been appointed to the Supreme Court.”

The saturnine Mr. C—the real Nazi in the room—engages him in a flatteringly attentive conversation. Mr. J agrees with Mr. C wholly. Mr. J is definitely attracted by Mr. C. He goes out of his way to ask his name—they have never met before. “A very intelligent man.”

Mr. K contemplates the scene with a sad humor in his expressive eyes. Mr. K is also a Jew. Mr. K is a Jew from the South. He speaks with a Southern drawl. He tells inimitable stories. Ten years ago he owned a very successful business that he had built up from scratch. He sold it for a handsome price, settled his indigent relatives in business, and now enjoys an income for himself of about fifty dollars a week. At forty he began to write articles about odd and out-of-the-way places in American life. A bachelor, and a sad man who makes everybody laugh, he travels continually, knows America from a thousand different facets, and loves it in a quiet, deep, unostentatious way. He is a great friend of H, the biographer. Like H, his ancestors have been in this country since long before the Civil War. He is attracted to the young German. By and by they are together in the drawing-room. The impeccable gentleman of New England, the country-man—intellectual of the Middle West, the happy woman whom the gods love, the young German, the quiet, poised Jew from the South. And over on the other side are the others.

Mr. L has just come in. Mr. L is a lion these days. My hostess was all of a dither when she told me on the telephone, “ . . . and L is coming. You know it’s dreadfully hard to get him.” L is a very powerful labor leader. “My dear, he is a man of the people, but really fascinating.“ L is a man of the people and just exactly as fascinating as my horsy, bank vice-president, on-the-make acquaintance over there, and for the same reasons and in the same way. L makes speeches about the “third of the nation,” and L has made a darned good thing for himself out of championing the oppressed. He has the best car of anyone in this room; salary means nothing to him because he lives on an expense account. He agrees with the very largest and most powerful industrialists in the country that it is the business of the strong to boss the weak, and he has made collective bargaining into a legal compulsion to appoint him or his henchmen as “labor’s” agents, with the power to tax pay envelopes and do what they please with the money. L is the strongest natural-born Nazi in this room. Mr. B regards him with contempt tempered by hatred. Mr. B will use him. L is already parroting B’s speeches. He has the brains of Neanderthal man, but he has an infallible instinct for power. In private conversation he denounces the Jews as “parasites.” No one has ever asked him what are the creative functions of a highly paid agent, who takes a percentage off the labor of millions of men, and distributes it where and as it may add to his own political power.

III

It’s fun—a macabre sort of fun—this parlor game of “Who Goes Nazi?” And it simplifies things—asking the question in regard to specific personalities.

Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. They may be the gentle philosopher whose name is in the Blue Book, or Bill from City College to whom democracy gave a chance to design airplanes—you’ll never make Nazis out of them. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis.

Believe me, nice people don’t go Nazi. Their race, color, creed, or social condition is not the criterion. It is something in them.

Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t-whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi. It’s an amusing game. Try it at the next big party you go to.

Hella bands

[mickmoranis]

check it out, look at the libcuck puertorican mayors handling of food that she says trump never sent:

https://youtu.be/ygGlKSy6RMU

The man in the dumpster happens to be the Secretary of State of Puerto Rico, Luis Rivera Marin, who then spoke to CBS News Correspondent David Begnaud about what he found:

"We got tipped about the mishandling of some of the supplies in a distribution center in Patilla, and we were able to corroborate what we didn't want to see. In a garbage dump truck we found pallets full of meals ready to be distributed at one time but now all spoiled. They were left under the rain in the open air under the sun subject to rodents and animals."

But nobody cares cus whats important is that old guy in hollywood, or wait...

..Whats DEFINITELY not important is figuring out what the fuck happened in las vegas.

its about GUN CONTROL! (did u know they want to make silencers legal?*gasp!*.. ps they are.)

oh no its about trump trying to get us in ww3!

No, wait... its that, that one 49's football cuck is being discriminated against.

FUCK! no, its about statutes, sorry i forgot.

Oh wait! That was about nazi's and how we need to limit their free speech!

WAIT NO damnit, its about white nationalist terrorists driving cars into people!

Waiiiiiit no its about how that google guy should be fired for suggesting that there is a difference between men or women (i think? I never read the article but i am P/O'd right now about it! or i was weeks ago amiright?!)

Oh shit I almost forgot, it was russia literaly declaring war on us! How the fuck could I have forgotten that? (unless maybe it was all bullshit?)

Wait it was definitely about trumps tax returns.

wait, fuck I have no idea, by any chance is it about how libtards were cucked the fuck out of an election?

Oh yea, thats it!

#resist? or #metoo?

ALL I KNOW IS BERNIE IS BEING SEXIST RIGHT NOW SO HOW ABOUT HILLARY 2020 EH? EH? (ps that is literally going to be your future dems, enjoy that bit cus it aint gonna go away)

[Nibblewitz]

I can't not read that in the voice of Glenn Beck.

[Lhancelot]

*snip*

Thing is, you realize both parties are corrupt right? Am I wrong or do you really think liberals are at fault for all the dysfunction in the USA?

Since the beginning of the modern era our country has meddled in foreign affairs and manipulated our population to foot the bill on wars with tax money and lives.

Regardless if it's a democrat or a republican as president, our country follows the same baseline activities.

They just use different words to describe their supposed ideologies, but if you look at the direction of the country it's following a very direct course.

I view the POTUS as nothing but a puppet atop a vast ship that is on a preset course set not by him but the wind, the water, and everything else except him.

IMO we haven't had a president that rocked the boat since Kennedy and we all know how that ended.

I believe any president who walks into the WH and tries to make monumental changes that cost powerful corporations and industries money are doomed.

I can appreciate your passion but to me it seems a bit lopsided with who you place the blame for all the troubles in the USA.

I think it's not being objective or is extremely naive to think that any one single group (liberals) are at fault for all the dysfunction.

It would be great if we could pinpoint one specific person or ideology as the bane of all the problems, because if that was possible we could snuff out all the bad things in life but it's way more complicated than that.

The media is used to manipulate people, and misinformation is coming in from all angles not just liberals or conservatives.

Shit is more deep than that, wouldn't you agree?

[Pokesan]

that boy smell blood ima say hes sharky

[eadric]

Just sharing an old NYT story that may be of relevance given recent revelations from the FBI. Kind of shocked it hasn't been deleted yet, props to them for that. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

[Rader]

Thing is, you realize both parties are corrupt right? Am I wrong or do you really think liberals are at fault for all the dysfunction in the USA?

Since the beginning of the modern era our country has meddled in foreign affairs and manipulated our population to foot the bill on wars with tax money and lives.

Regardless if it's a democrat or a republican as president, our country follows the same baseline activities.

They just use different words to describe their supposed ideologies, but if you look at the direction of the country it's following a very direct course.

I view the POTUS as nothing but a puppet atop a vast ship that is on a preset course set not by him but the wind, the water, and everything else except him.

IMO we haven't had a president that rocked the boat since Kennedy and we all know how that ended.

I believe any president who walks into the WH and tries to make monumental changes that cost powerful corporations and industries money are doomed.

I can appreciate your passion but to me it seems a bit lopsided with who you place the blame for all the troubles in the USA.

I think it's not being objective or is extremely naive to think that any one single group (liberals) are at fault for all the dysfunction.

It would be great if we could pinpoint one specific person or ideology as the bane of all the problems, because if that was possible we could snuff out all the bad things in life but it's way more complicated than that.

The media is used to manipulate people, and misinformation is coming in from all angles not just liberals or conservatives.

Shit is more deep than that, wouldn't you agree?

The problem is not political it is cultural, Americans are pompous arrogant fucks who think they are superior to the rest of the world, whether that be military might, religion, or new age ethics such as global warming or other such nonsense. They are too busy hashtagging and virtue signaling and playing political sport to actually make intelligent decisions in their lives. They can all F off for all I care.

[eadric]

The problem is not political it is cultural, Americans are pompous arrogant fucks who think they are superior to the rest of the world, whether that be military might, religion, or new age ethics such as global warming or other such nonsense. They are too busy hashtagging and virtue signaling and playing political sport to actually make intelligent decisions in their lives. They can all F off for all I care.

That's not really fair or concise. I'd agree that the vast majority of Americans are OK with our bullying militaristic foreign policy (many of us are against our foreign policy, but have been unable to affect change through democratic means), but religion and new age ethics are a diverse and vague thing to accuse an entire nation of being wrong about. Hashtagging and virtue signalling are a troubling trend, but again, the silent majority are not participants. Keep that in mind before you condemn the theoretical collective. We are all individuals; a person living in Japan is as likely to find a friend with similar values in Georgia as down the street.

[Ahldagor]

Like all prophecies, Nixon's has multiple meanings.

[AzzarTheGod]

brief whale update based on intelligence gathering activities (surveillance)

1) it has gainful employment again (not new but it previously was chased out of a job)

2) its doing a lot of stuff irl

3) its trying to not get involved in the forums too much

[Lhancelot]

I'd agree that the vast majority of Americans are OK with our bullying militaristic foreign policy

One facet to this is the propaganda machine we have running in the USA. We are indoctrinated to believe this bullying militaristic foreign policy is patriotism.

As said above it is a cultural thing.

We also are indoctrinated to believe that going against what our country leaders tell us is unpatriotic.

This makes it very easy to direct us into international wars as well as internal wars with one another simply by accusing those who question the narrative given as being unpatriotic and disrespectful to our national patriotism.

This fanatical patriotism also enables our country to have a military that mans itself purely by volunteers.

Most countries require a draft of some sort, or a mandatory period of time where the male citizens have to enlist.

The USA has such a strong system of indoctrination in effect that our citizens eagerly raise their hands to join our armed forces. We are taught that joining the military and going to war is equivalent to being a hero.

This patriotism has little to do with our social injustices though, our issues regarding racial discrimination, misogyny, and lesser evolved rights for the LGBT community.

Our social deficiencies are the product of a vast conglomeration of events that transpired from our past and I feel no need to go into further history discussions to express my opinion on that.

Americans that defend the USA with blind patriotism often like to point out the injustices of other countries to justify our own system which in many ways is admittedly better than many other countries even with it's deficiencies.

These same people are offended that anyone questions our own government or military actions internationally, and I'd say those who do not strive to see the USA treat it's international community and own citizens better simply are brainwashed and have lived a life of comfort, born with a silver spoon, or simply are ignorant and/or dumb.

[Raavak]

Just sharing an old NYT story that may be of relevance given recent revelations from the FBI. Kind of shocked it hasn't been deleted yet, props to them for that. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.htmlFrom what I've seen I believe his is still silently under federal investigation.

Americans are pompous arrogant fucks who think they are superior to the rest of the worldNot think, are. Its easy to be cocky when you're so f'ing good.

[Pokesan]

brief whale update based on intelligence gathering activities (surveillance)

1) it has gainful employment again (not new but it previously was chased out of a job)

2) its doing a lot of stuff irl

3) its trying to not get involved in the forums too much

this a tiki boi thing?

[mickmoranis]

San francisco now recognizes a third gender! https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2017/10/15/california-third-gender-nonbinary/

However, if you are poor YOU ARE EVICTED OUT OF THE CITY AND CANNOT LIVE HERE

However, if you are homeless you can wander freely and shit on the street and stuff, cus we care about your rights as a 'human being' but please, do not ask for shelter or food, because see the above.

[Lhancelot]

San francisco now recognizes a third gender! https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2017/10/15/california-third-gender-nonbinary/

However, if you are poor YOU ARE EVICTED OUT OF THE CITY AND CANNOT LIVE HERE

However, if you are homeless you can wander freely and shit on the street and stuff, cus we care about your rights as a 'human being' but please, do not ask for shelter or food, because see the above.

That's interesting. ^

[Rader]

Not think, are. Its easy to be cocky when you're so f'ing good.

America is a great country but that is thanks to prior generations. Not for much longer, though, the current residents are complete retards, and that cockiness is without merit and will just make the decline that much quicker.

[mickmoranis]

I pray for ww3

both the cleanse we need and deserve.

also imagine how dope seoul 2 would be, think how cool tokyo was after ww2, it was the electric city, now its like the VHS city.

Seoul is basically blade runner now, only its got all this 1990s tech all over it.

Wipe that fucker off the map, and in 30 years, bladerunner.

Take one for the team world, make the world a better place in 30 years.

Also 2/3 less of modern libcucks (or gods children, republicans if that's what you hate), pop overflow problems averted.

The world needs this.

Pray with me.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/2X4Doak.gif

[Pokesan]

nuke rooting is a rerun. i seen it first person.

[Raavak]

America is a great country but that is thanks to prior generations. Not for much longer, though, the current residents are complete retards, and that cockiness is without merit and will just make the decline that much quicker.You wish. The only fear is a lot of the millennials are wimps and run to their safe spaces if someone says something they don't want to hear. I know some really intelligent, independent up-and-coming millennials though. They aren't all a waste of payroll and may do the generation right.