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[JurisDictum]

Assuming you have children, or plan to have children, would you offer to pay for higher education?

This whole "lol this guy probably didn't go to college" is kind of 1970s thing to say. Back when people would go to college and graduate based on how smart they were. As opposed to how well off their parents are.

Not to mention some of the kids doing the best you will see are the ones that didn't go to college these days...especially not at 18...that shit is pretty hard for average 18 year old. 16 credits divided into 4 classes, social clubs, and an internship? Who the fuck is ready for that at 18?

See back when it was no internship and 12 credits on the semester system....undergraduate work was easy. So the professors could be a hard ass about your test or paper and actually teach things.

Now they are forced to water it down (basically no one is rewarded for grading hard). So an entire generation of kids don't really experience a college classroom in the same sense anymore.

The bureaucrats have taken over and the intellectuals are being pushed out and replaced. Soon college will be extended high school...fuck that...it is extended high school right now.

It's a fucking joke. Getting a B in a modern college class means you showed up. A C+ means you mostly showed up. A means you actually did what they asked. And A+ is like "holy shit -- you must be a throwback to when kids cared about grades"

Oh yea grades don't matter. Unless your an idiot and need to pad your obvious idiocy with an advanced degree (as always, science degrees are the exception). It's pretty retarded to go to law school or get some business/liberal arts masters degree. You could have just made a lot more money spending the time working -- and if you have what it takes you'll be getting your masters paid for by your work -- or they won't care (usually the later).

They are training people to be busybody idiots spitting out pointless paperwork at college. They don't care about depth of understand or seeking the truth. They encourage your ability to produce. Write a paper -- keep it simple. Read a chapter of this completely different subject "what did he say?" Be prepared to discuss the topic on tuesday

no one but me was ever fucking prepared on tuesday. Didn't matter. They all got around the same grade usually. I'm like 1 standard deviation away from those that didn't try.

They studied this a awhile back by the way -- poor kids spend way more time on their school work, way less time in internships and clubs....almost immediately top business declared grades unimportant, and clubs and internships king.

The rich people colleges were the first and most aggressive at inflating grades. The upper classes are quite clearly covering their ass by watering down the meritocracy part of the university.

I originally posted this in the Yes or No thread but it seemed inappropriate to the thread's theme.

[AzzarTheGod]

cynicism bout america is rly pre-trump

it's actually pretty ez to make it and u get a stable fief for it. your peers have been completely destroyed by alcohol, marijuana, social media which doesnt include my wisdom, and dietary missteps because they and their progenitors are inherently inferior. the system works good and the path is clear if u don't leap headlong into any obvious spike traps like marriage / drugs /etc

this whale's blowhole spittin fire

[hyejin]

the actual prblm w/ usa system is empire & moral / ethically compromising urself if u fully endorse the military / surveillance strategy (failure to address embedded foreign enemies is in this umbrella). meanwhile, chinamen exist so u can forgive alot. anyone who talks about wage stagnation, unemployment etc is literally retarded u can buy a mattress for $300 on amazon that's better than a $1k 5 years ago. u can get a job in 5 minutes if u aren't a defeatist loser. if ur wage has been stagnant that means ur standard of living has drastically increased. bernie nerds are straight up idiot losers and hillary would have been honestly been functionally preferable. America is supreme among nations.

Hope this helps!

[AzzarTheGod]

the actual prblm w/ usa system is empire & moral / ethically compromising urself if u fully endorse the military / surveillance strategy (failure to address embedded foreign enemies is in this umbrella). meanwhile, chinamen exist so u can forgive alot. anyone who talks about wage stagnation, unemployment etc is literally retarded u can buy a mattress for $300 on amazon that's better than a $1k 5 years ago. u can get a job in 5 minutes if u aren't a defeatist loser. if ur wage has been stagnant that means ur standard of living has drastically increased. bernie nerds are straight up idiot losers and hillary would have been honestly been functionally preferable. America is supreme among nations.

Hope this helps!

this whale swims at the base of Popocatépetl and dumps LAVA he dumps LAVA he dumps LAVA


that blowhole ain't spittin no WATTA, no WATTA, no WATTA

He is at the base of Popocatépetl and he dumps LAVA, he dumps LAVA, he dumps LAVA

that blowhole ain't spittin no WATTA, no WATTA, no WATTA




repeat refrain x2

[AzzarTheGod]

*gotta b passable 2get the pronouns. will investigate this possibility at a later date yet to be determined

[Pokesan]

the actual prblm w/ usa system is empire & moral / ethically compromising urself if u fully endorse the military / surveillance strategy (failure to address embedded foreign enemies is in this umbrella). meanwhile, chinamen exist so u can forgive alot. anyone who talks about wage stagnation, unemployment etc is literally retarded u can buy a mattress for $300 on amazon that's better than a $1k 5 years ago. u can get a job in 5 minutes if u aren't a defeatist loser. if ur wage has been stagnant that means ur standard of living has drastically increased. bernie nerds are straight up idiot losers and hillary would have been honestly been functionally preferable. America is supreme among nations.

Hope this helps!

*daps disposable goods*

:o

[hyejin]

*gotta b passable 2get the pronouns. will investigate this possibility at a later date yet to be determined

im working hard for this dap but my goal aesthetic will turn str8 men queer, not mislead str8 men like they arent queer

[hyejin]

*daps disposable goods*

:o

news flash this is the era of disposable goods. if U buy a bed now planning to have it 10 years from now u have zero idea about the fantastic delicious stuff going down w/ materials / manufacturing / engineering and dont plan on moving into a bigger income bracket / house either. anyway for the busted losers I predict these $300 jobs will be just fine for 5 years min; the tech has gotten a LOT better just lately.

the lengths pessimists will go to to justify their misery makes me LoL. last few years have been GOOD. go play ffxiv a few months if u haven't tried a modern mmo lately. vagina nipples soon

[Raavak]

https://i.imgur.com/0BC1xI0.jpg

[Pokesan]

news flash this is the era of disposable goods. if U buy a bed now planning to have it 10 years from now u have zero idea about the fantastic delicious stuff going down w/ materials / manufacturing / engineering and dont plan on moving into a bigger house either. anyway for the busted losers I predict these $300 jobs will be just fine for 5 years min; the tech has gotten a LOT better just lately.

the lengths pessimists will go to to justify their misery makes me LoL. last few years have been GOOD. vagina nipples soon

wanna eat out of my trash can?

[JurisDictum]

the actual prblm w/ usa system is empire & moral / ethically compromising urself if u fully endorse the military / surveillance strategy (failure to address embedded foreign enemies is in this umbrella). meanwhile, chinamen exist so u can forgive alot. anyone who talks about wage stagnation, unemployment etc is literally retarded u can buy a mattress for $300 on amazon that's better than a $1k 5 years ago. u can get a job in 5 minutes if u aren't a defeatist loser. if ur wage has been stagnant that means ur standard of living has drastically increased. bernie nerds are straight up idiot losers and hillary would have been honestly been functionally preferable. America is supreme among nations.

Hope this helps!

Look -- if you don't think rich people should care about poor people (because its own damn fault), then why in the fuck would you expect poor people to care about rich people?

You better mull that one over because there is a lot more of one than the other.

These "your life is good and you just don't know it" statements smack of rich-kidism. But sometimes middle class smart people also say dumb shit because they were lucky enough to escape struggling.

People are mad at work hours....you understand that right?

They aren't mad that they can't go out more or don't have a nicer car. Their mad that they have no freedom because they aren't born into the elite. They slave away at a job 8-12 hours every fucking day so that their boss can get a 3rd vacation house and they pay for their apartment.

Becoming a workaholic and retiring early is a miserable macro-level solution to this problem.

you didn't used to have to work so hard to live....this is a manufactured situation. You used to be off work at 5pm, now everyone expect work to done in your free time basically....you just live your life around a job that no one even needs.

We can produce what we do right now -- if all worked way less. But instead we have created a lord class that gets any extreme luxury they want everyday -- so we can keep everyone working longer.

There's always going to be a top 1%....and its always stupid to give that group more wealth then the bottom 90%. You can talk mattresses all you want -- we know something is up. You can start by considering how much things like Rent, tuition, and food have gone up. But what a ducy on the cherry-picked mattress example.

Considering investment has been shown to be sex-party driven.....there goes that meritocracy crap your suggesting.

[hyejin]

wanna eat my trash?

kinda falls flat and u edited it. its a 1 liner.

[Pokesan]

got me there. progress is an unstoppable force.

[hyejin]

There's always going to be a top 1%....and its always stupid to give that group more wealth then the bottom 90%.
dumb statement. I could write a anecdote that renders this blatantly goofy in 5 seconds, but i think i already suffered attrition in this engagement by admitting to reading ur sad post.

[Patriam1066]

cynicism bout america is rly pre-trump

it's actually pretty ez to make it and u get a stable fief for it. your peers have been completely destroyed by alcohol, marijuana, social media which doesnt include my wisdom, and dietary missteps because they and their progenitors are inherently inferior. the system works good and the path is clear if u don't leap headlong into any obvious spike traps like marriage / drugs /etc

Marriage isn't a trap

A good woman is pretty much the only thing tangible you can have in life. Wisdom from your elder!

Hope this helps!!!!!!

[JurisDictum]

dumb statement. I could write a anecdote that renders this blatantly goofy in 5 seconds, but i think i already suffered attrition in this engagement by admitting to reading ur sad post.

Yea some how I don't think winning technical point on the matter changes the impact. Call me crazy. I think that might just show how reluctant one is in engaging the actual meat the issue.

[hyejin]

Marriage isn't a trap

A good woman is pretty much the only thing tangible you can have in life. Wisdom from your elder!

Hope this helps!!!!!!

was being a lil tongue in cheek to poke the lesser dads around here. Of course you're right :)

[CyricTheMad420]

More like don't let the Clinton foundation interfere lol

[JurisDictum]

Oprah scares the shit out me. She would beat Bernie I'm thinking. She probably would beat Trump too.

Things might actually go full race war. Not like blood streets (maybe a little) -- but like South Africa style.

[hyejin]

Yea some how I don't think winning technical point on the matter changes the impact. Call me crazy. I think that might just show how reluctant one is in engaging the actual meat the issue.

ok fine. you earn this because you dunked me on kakistocracy.

joining someone's plantation and subjecting yourself to dehumanization is FAR from the only option open to those born of low status. If your negotiations land you at agreeing to those conditions then they are what you get. It happens that the current cultural context generates a population that is inj majority happy to do that, and the climate of whining and pessimism coaxes them into submitting to it permanently due to sense of hopelessness even when they have recognized that it sucks. YOU are the one feeding that machine, not I.

paying tuition is 100% optional and if you fail to avoid it you goofed up pretty badly. If you're a dumb retard we have a huge welfare program called the military.

rent is cheap as hell in most places on $11/hr wage. I'm sorry if you feel entitled to a comfortable life in a competitive urban market for doing work that will be done by a machine soon.

[Patriam1066]

Oprah scares the shit out me. She would beat Bernie I'm thinking. She probably would beat Trump too.

Things might actually go full race war. Not like blood streets (maybe a little) -- but like South Africa style.

I fear the first paragraph and embrace the second. Deus vult!!!!

[Patriam1066]

ok fine. you earn this because you dunked me on kakistocracy.

joining someone's plantation and subjecting yourself to dehumanization is FAR from the only option open to those born of low or lower-middle class. If your negotiations land you at agreeing to those conditions then they are what you get. It happens that the current cultural context generates a population that is inj majority happy to do that, and the climate of whining and pessimism coaxes them into submitting to it permanently even when they have recognized that it sucks. YOU are the one feeding that machine, not I. Real easy to sidestep.

paying tuition is 100% optional and if you fail to avoid it you goofed up pretty badly.

rent is cheap as hell in most places on $11/hr wage. I'm sorry if you feel entitled to a comfortable life in a competitive urban market for doing work that will be done by a machine soon.

All of this is true but even if you never make a mistake, like myself and my children, you could still have the unfortunate curse of a poor genome that predisposes you to certain illnesses or disabilities. Given the cost of healthcare, shouldn't (((corporate profiteers and bankers))) pay a reasonable tax such that all American CITIZENS receive a stipend upon matriculating from high school in order to pay for health care and hopefully an education?

Just my $.02, God Bless!

[JurisDictum]

rent is cheap as hell in most places on $11/hr wage. I'm sorry if you feel entitled to a comfortable life in a competitive urban market for doing work that will be done by a machine soon.

I really don't think its true that most 1 br places are affordable on 11 an hour....maybe in place where you'll be making 11 an hour your whole life. Good luck raising a kid on that.

[Patriam1066]

I really don't think its true that most 1 br places are affordable on 11 an hour....maybe in place where you'll be making 11 an hour your whole life. Good luck raising a kid on that.

If you make $11 an hour you shouldn't have children. It's irresponsible

The best thing to do about mistakes is to not make them. My good chum!

[Pokesan]

If you make $11 an hour you shouldn't have children. It's irresponsible

The best thing to do about mistakes is to not make them. My good chum!

subvert nature, but not to finance.

[hyejin]

All of this is true but even if you never make a mistake, like myself and my children, you could still have the unfortunate curse of a poor genome that predisposes you to certain illnesses or disabilities. Given the cost of healthcare, shouldn't (((corporate profiteers and bankers))) pay a reasonable tax such that all American CITIZENS receive a stipend upon matriculating from high school in order to pay for health care and hopefully an education?

Just my $.02, God Bless!

the implementation is above my head, dad, but I think yes that the taxpayer ought to fund a constellation of healthcare/UBI (prereq: palatable ideological angle for disincentivizing childbirth and closing borders) and that toxic industries ought to pay disproportionate tax. I think something like getting less healthcare credits for every polluter u spawn, instead of more, would work pretty dandy but good luck selling it to the suffragettes.

skeptical of state-paid health care and tuition; obfuscating cost behind insurance / ezloans and massive regulatory complex has already rendered the service Soviet and the pricing super gougey in both these markets. Hopefully a smart male will weigh in on how to actuate on what you mention ^^

[hyejin]

subvert nature, but not to finance.

finance is a manifestation of nature

u don't believe this. that's why you're a commie

[JurisDictum]

Lets say I'm born stupid and find it restful to mob floors. Like to spend my free time fishing. Fishing isn't that expensive but the shit aint free. You add some beer and Jesus -- now that's like a once a week affair at best.

Now I'm told to go to college...because why not right? Some statistics say people with degrees make more money...so obviously -- the high-paid professionals concluded -- we need to get this motherfucker in college.

So now I'm trying to get my mob job back saddled with $40,000 in debt -- and I'm called an idiot by my intelligent libertarian friend.

OK I guess I'm an idiot

Lets just keep doing this stupid shit because it's my fault.

[AzzarTheGod]

lmao fuck that i got a neutron on my pinky

[Pokesan]

finance is a manifestation of nature

u don't believe this. that's why you're a commie

down and coined bud :)

[hyejin]

Lets say I'm born stupid and find it restful to mob floors. Like to spend my free time fishing. Fishing isn't that expensive but the shit aint free. You add some beer and Jesus -- now that's like a once a week affair at best.

Now I'm told to go to college...because why not right? Some statistics say people with degrees make more money...so obviously -- the high-paid professionals concluded -- we need to get this motherfucker in college.

So now he's his mob job back when he is saddled with $40,000 in debt -- and he's called an idiot by his intelligent libertarian friend.

OK I guess I'm an idiot

Lets just keep doing this stupid shit because it's my fault.

If we're going to start usurping, I think it makes more sense to the collective good for the able to visit violence upon this hypothetical person to get a profit out of him (maybe conscription?) than for him to visit violence upon the able via taxation to protect him from himself. but this is getting boring libertarian & pokesan post hit a emotional resonator so i think im out & may have played myself

[AzzarTheGod]

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

they got u throwin discs like a ninja

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

they got u lookin left n right like a ninja

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

u replyin to JD like a red99 drug binja

[AzzarTheGod]

lmao im still hittin licks watchin trunks do tricks



ITT ppl sweating MTV video jockeys

[maskedmelon]

Lets say I'm born stupid and find it restful to mob floors. Like to spend my free time fishing. Fishing isn't that expensive but the shit aint free. You add some beer and Jesus -- now that's like a once a week affair at best.

Now I'm told to go to college...because why not right? Some statistics say people with degrees make more money...so obviously -- the high-paid professionals concluded -- we need to get this motherfucker in college.

So now I'm trying to get my mob job back saddled with $40,000 in debt -- and I'm called an idiot by my intelligent libertarian friend.

OK I guess I'm an idiot

Lets just keep doing this stupid shit because it's my fault.

such individuals should be barred from damaging themselves like this. The idea that all liberty is inherently virtuous is folly. many (most?) people are better served in with restricted choice because they are unqualified to competently assess all relevant information. we have to start though by destigmatizing subordination and intellectual inferiority.

[hyejin]

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

they got u throwin discs like a ninja

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

they got u lookin left n right like a ninja

its a crinja its a crinja its a crinja

u replyin to JD like a red99 drug binja

did jd play me or did I play myself? i could use some sound advice right now

[JurisDictum]

Azzar has done like a whole bunch of drugs :eek: So just keep this in mind while you engage with him.

[AzzarTheGod]

did jd play me or did I play myself? i could use some sound advice right now

Hold on let's get a word from Carson Daly on space-time geometry.

[AzzarTheGod]

Wow strong culturally relevant video DJs ITT

[Patriam1066]

the implementation is above my head, dad

I'm glad you think of me as such but please, refer to me as father texas or big Tex

Thanks and God bless!

[JurisDictum]

I was reading Warren Buffet's advice on good hiring (https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/warren-buffet-says-you-should-hire-people-based-on-these-3-traits-but-only-1-truly-matters.html). After all he is responsible for employing 367,700....as the second richest man in the world. He's probably hired at least 3 of them himself.

He put a lot of emphasis on assessing integrity:

Knowing whether to hire someone or pull the trigger, so to speak, on the interview process, is a matter of asking the right questions. Seasoned job candidates with interviewing experience know exactly what "scripted" answers to give to overcome any objections or get around a weakness or negative quality. To safeguard from hiring bad apples, throw them a curveball when they're expecting a fastball, to catch them off guard. Ask a question like this one:

If we ever got into a bind with a client, would you be willing to tell a little white lie to help us out?

That's what one high-level CEO routinely asks to test out a candidate's integrity. If you are asked that question and say yes, expect a short interview and your parking stub validated early. A no indicates a high degree of integrity and a possible good hire.

So their you have it. Clearly even Warren Buffett is really stupid and hires people who aren't even honest enough to admit they are going to white lie.

You want someone with integrity? -- pick someone who is honest and shoots themselves in the foot left and right. They tend suck at business America though.

I think we've made these people retarded. They believe their practices find talent. They believe in "talent" when it comes to jobs where there is zero room for talent and its all fortune. They believe that stupid question catches the dishonest people in a room for of CEOs

DUMB AS SHIT

or what is a lot more likely...Buffet just thinks were dumb enough to believe it.

[mickmoranis]

There is a thing that is known as the 'it' factor in entertainment. Its that unquantafiable presence someone has that makes them glow in a room full of normals.

The it factor is what casting directors look for when they meet future stars. Time and time again, when someone has the it factor, they excel.

Knowing how to tell if someone has the it factor, is as much of an 'it' factor in itself. Though it is less well known.

there is an episode of Man Seeking Woman where the step dad meets the older sister of the main character (if you don't get this reference its in season 3 and its a great show so get w/ it)

anywho, he says "you have the ability to tell what 'sucks'.."

that ability is as rare and as much of an important factor as the 'it' factor.

people like elon musk, or warren buffet have the 'suck' factor. They can tell when something sucks.

You look at something and it looks normal, or it looks good, or it looks bad... but deep down, you dont really know, you might not like it, but that doesnt mean it sucks, or its wrong. Only someone wit the suck factor, knows if it actually is lame, or is bullshit, or is fake or is stupid or it sucks.

Steve Jobs had it, that's why apple is such a success when he is at the helm (im not saying that apple products arnt shit, but you cant argue they arnt successful.

Anywho, society doesnt really recognize it, but the "ability to tell what sucks" is as much of a random factor as the "it" factor that should define if you are in a position of power at any company, or if you will be a successful investor.

If you're an investor that is successsful, and you dont have the factor, its just luck.

but if you're an investor with the factor? youll be like bezos, musk, jobs, buffet, or any of the other billionares that are out there.

[skarlorn]

There is a thing that is known as the 'it' factor in entertainment. Its that unquantafiable presence someone has that makes them glow in a room full of normals.

The it factor is what casting directors look for when they meet future stars. Time and time again, when someone has the it factor, they excel.

Knowing how to tell if someone has the it factor, is as much of an 'it' factor in itself. Though it is less well known.

there is an episode of Man Seeking Woman where the step dad meets the older sister of the main character (if you don't get this reference its in season 3 and its a great show so get w/ it)

anywho, he says "you have the ability to tell what 'sucks'.."

that ability is as rare and as much of an important factor as the 'it' factor.

people like elon musk, or warren buffet have the 'suck' factor. They can tell when something sucks.

You look at something and it looks normal, or it looks good, or it looks bad... but deep down, you dont really know, you might not like it, but that doesnt mean it sucks, or its wrong. Only someone wit the suck factor, knows if it actually is lame, or is bullshit, or is fake or is stupid or it sucks.

Steve Jobs had it, that's why apple is such a success when he is at the helm (im not saying that apple products arnt shit, but you cant argue they arnt successful.

Anywho, society doesnt really recognize it, but the "ability to tell what sucks" is as much of a random factor as the "it" factor that should define if you are in a position of power at any company, or if you will be a successful investor.

If you're an investor that is successsful, and you dont have the factor, its just luck.

but if you're an investor with the factor? youll be like bezos, musk, jobs, buffet, or any of the other billionares that are out there.

apple products are trash now that jobs ded

[mickmoranis]

By the way, I have the suck factor which is why I am woke and drop knowledge bombs so often.

[AzzarTheGod]

I was reading Warren Buffet's advice on good hiring (https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/warren-buffet-says-you-should-hire-people-based-on-these-3-traits-but-only-1-truly-matters.html). After all he is responsible for employing 367,700....as the second richest man in the world. He's probably hired at least 3 of them himself.

He put a lot of emphasis on assessing integrity:



So their you have it. Clearly even Warren Buffett is really stupid and hires people who aren't even honest enough to admit they are going to white lie.

You want someone with integrity? -- pick someone who is honest and shoots themselves in the foot left and right. They tend suck at business America though.

I think we've made these people retarded. They believe their practices find talent. They believe in "talent" when it comes to jobs where there is zero room for talent and its all fortune. They believe that stupid question catches the dishonest people in a room for of CEOs

DUMB AS SHIT

or what is a lot more likely...Buffet just thinks were dumb enough to believe it.


I loved watching Total Request Live after school. This really takes me back.

[AzzarTheGod]

apple products are trash now that jobs ded

they tried to replace Steve Jobs with a Steve Jobs looking guy. people might have had more respect for the company's future innovations had they not gone for a cheap visual trick. like we're supposed to believe steve jobs is still alive. they even claim to pay this clone steve jobs stock options and steve jobs salary @ 10 million per year.

"we'll give him steve jobs salary too, that will make him more like steve jobs". "wow Laurence that is a gr8 idea, give him steve jobs pay checks so we can test our mental health. can we call him steve?"

super trihard

[Lulz~Sect]

Much like your super try hard posting Swyft

[AzzarTheGod]

if ur gonna post regardless that's impossible. high volume shitposting =/= tryhard

back to school bucko.

[Lulz~Sect]

ah so you’re merely pretending to be a retarded faggot

lol k

[AzzarTheGod]

im saying ur out of the loop. u tried hard to make yourself in the in crowd on groupchats and discord and cyberstalking scene but at the end of the day ur observations on these forums are are wrong.

the only tryhard here is u trying to be cool and ive got the who's who of forumquesters that would agree with that.

[hyejin]

this is getting too personal im dispensing 1 of those papal what do u callems that forbids yalls fiefs from doing any more battle

[Lulz~Sect]

Paragraph of mad

Got it retard

[hyejin]

lulz wrote that before my courier reached him. u may not respond w further violence.

[Lulz~Sect]

C U REAL SOON

[AzzarTheGod]

my boy cutter handles my light work

[Lulz~Sect]

Grasping at last year straws JC
I’ll lay off u 4 now
Thank big J

[skarlorn]

Ur not gonna like the taste of my salty cum if u don't stop fighting boys

[AzzarTheGod]

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[skarlorn]

nah dude nah

it's all about dominating ur opponent with aggressive homosexual behavior

get with 2018 lmao black gangsters are so 2016

[skarlorn]

BACK ON TOPIC

"While discussing immigration, President Donald J. Trump asked, "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” according to the Washington Post http://cnn.it/2FweD8o"


fickking LMAO. the SHREKONING has begun. One of my favorite Trump quotes yet. It will make SO many people mad but it's so fucking true. I applaud him asking it straight like that.

jesus christ i love this year already

[AzzarTheGod]

get with 2018 lmao black gangsters are so 99-03

ftfy. get with p99. it checks out

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/F58X6Vy.jpg?1

[AzzarTheGod]

snakes in ur grass. aint no cutter either im p sure u know who.

tighten up that groupchat circle that u hold so dearly cuz we're comin. 2016 or not im getting solicitations in 2018

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/F58X6Vy.jpg?1

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/XLjj2j6.gif


https://i.imgur.com/XLjj2j6.gif

@ lulz look ma no hands

[Lulz~Sect]

im just a corporate thug these days but my people still professional street *****s
https://i.imgur.com/shPaUZY.jpg
C U REAL SOON

[skarlorn]

how dat finger smell tho

[Lulz~Sect]

let's get back on topic

lol shithole countries
he went and did it
what an absolute madman

[Ahldagor]

Y'all watched Boardwalk Empire?

[skarlorn]

i've seen up to halfway thru season 3

[AzzarTheGod]

i've seen up to halfway thru season 3

Wrap season 4 then start fastfowarding most of season 5 n ull be good. Unless ur a fecalfeliac then go rite ahead n watch every minute

[mickmoranis]

let's get back on topic

lol shithole countries
he went and did it
what an absolute madman

I

Love

This

President

[hyejin]

lol these ppl still askin if u seen a tv show rn

I

Love

This

President

[Pokesan]

lots of countries are shitholes. that's indisputable.

but you're not supposed to say it, that makes us look like jerks.
& it also foments resentment the next time lockheed needs a new war.

oh. nevermind. :(

[skarlorn]

lots of countries are shitholes. that's indisputable.

but you're not supposed to say it, that makes us look like jerks.
& it also foments resentment the next time lockheed needs a new war.

oh. nevermind. :(

i would love a PRO-Trump photoshop edit mix of Trump/Shrek please

[mickmoranis]

lots of countries are shitholes. that's indisputable.

but you're not supposed to say it, that makes us look like jerks.
& it also foments resentment the next time lockheed needs a new war.

oh. nevermind. :(

If the choice is sounding like a huge alpha or sounding like a huge cuck boy beta socialqueer justice lack of self respect Libby like poke, Loramin, any member of the view or a European, is a no brainer

[Pokesan]

If the choice is sounding like a huge alpha or sounding like a huge cuck boy beta socialqueer justice lack of self respect Libby like poke, Loramin, any member of the view or a European, is a no brainer

*daps forever war*

[mickmoranis]

*daps forever war*

Oh the next one will have an ending

https://i.imgur.com/gbdgLOs.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

lol these ppl still askin if u seen a tv show rn

lmao Anderson Cooper cried on primetime.

Fox refused to say shit and censored it in text.

CNN said the word shit repeatedly all night probably about 30 times in 10 minutes and showed it on screen.

your welcome for the fill in the blanks (not directed @ whale)

[mickmoranis]

lmao Anderson Cooper cried on primetime.

Fox refused to say shit and censored it in text.

CNN said the word shit repeatedly all night probably about 30 times in 10 minutes and showed it on screen.

your welcome for the fill in the blanks (not directed @ whale)

Daps remote

[hyejin]

ay u guys see that new simpson episode? its bangin

[Ahldagor]

South Park did the "shit"-fest years ago. Damn US propaganda wing is getting lazy. Could we at least get Nancy Pelosi on live TV douching with Lysol after a televised Trump creampie?

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/P3S6hpx.jpg

[Pokesan]

ay u guys see that new simpson episode? its bangin

this guy doesn't even own a tv!!

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/P3S6hpx.jpg

lOl

[JurisDictum]

"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?"

9323

[hyejin]

this guy doesn't even own a tv!!

sorry lol, im just like the main dude off big bang theory sometimes

[Patriam1066]

"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?"

9323

First time I've agreed with trump in a while

[mickmoranis]

LBJ had a foul mouth and said the same things.

its called america.

if ya cant take it gtfo of the way.

[hyejin]

btw ive lived near/among haitian populations and they are even more poorly socialized than the blacks you normally avoid & travel among armed. they've been stuck in my brain as the least desirable population ive encountered in usa for many years now. trump is, unsurprisingly, a connoisseur of florida degenerates. If youve seen the 2006 nbc television show "heroes" you can relate to what im talking about -- have you?

[Lulz~Sect]

I’m about to blow your minds.

I used to work at the New York Times many, many years ago. When the Haiti earthquakes happened, I was performing a survey of the executive editor’s area in the heart of the newsroom. There was a huddle going on about the Haiti disaster and one prominent libcuck editor scoffs with disdain and says,

“pfffttt, come on people; it’s not like it was an earthquake in California people”

Laughs all around. I of course joined in on the laughing and got the ol atta boy nods from the good old boys.

The entire world full of shit bros. None of it matters. Fuck everybody that isn’t us.

That’s what’s up.

[Pokesan]

I’m about to blow your minds.

I used to work at the New York Times many, many years ago. When the Haiti earthquakes happened, I was performing a survey of the executive editor’s area in the heart of the newsroom. There was a huddle going on about the Haiti disaster and one prominent libcuck editor scoffs with disdain and says,

“pfffttt, come on people; it’s not like it was an earthquake in California people”

Laughs all around. I of course joined in on the laughing and got the ol atta boy nods from the good old boys.

The entire world full of shit bros. None of it matters. Fuck everybody that isn’t us.

That’s what’s up.

fuck cosplayers too tho

[Lulz~Sect]

fuck cosplayers too tho

Only obese ones. Still need to bucket list a 10 cosplayer.

[Patriam1066]

I’m about to blow your minds.

I used to work at the New York Times many, many years ago. When the Haiti earthquakes happened, I was performing a survey of the executive editor’s area in the heart of the newsroom. There was a huddle going on about the Haiti disaster and one prominent libcuck editor scoffs with disdain and says,

“pfffttt, come on people; it’s not like it was an earthquake in California people”

Laughs all around. I of course joined in on the laughing and got the ol atta boy nods from the good old boys.

The entire world full of shit bros. None of it matters. Fuck everybody that isn’t us.

That’s what’s up.

I'd live in Haiti before LA though

[chadtwoke]

i worked with haitians. they're loud, smell, are ungrateful to be in the US/have a job(lazier than mexicans) and their food all smells like a seafood restaurants dumpster. fuck haiti i vote nuke.

[AzzarTheGod]

btw ive lived near/among haitian populations and they are even more poorly socialized than the blacks you normally avoid & travel among armed. they've been stuck in my brain as the least desirable population ive encountered in usa for many years now. trump is, unsurprisingly, a connoisseur of florida degenerates. If youve seen the 2006 nbc television show "heroes" you can relate to what im talking about -- have you?

exactly as a casino and hotel owner he is going to have a certain perspective.

trying to homogenize everyone to have the same perspective is Marxist. we should be respecting that everyone comes from a different place. The KKK sucks but i could give a shit less about feigning outrage in name of Marxism.

[nilzark]

First time I've agreed with trump in a while

Please post here what cuntries are Shitholes... I would like an official listing.

[Pokesan]

Please post here what cuntries are Shitholes... I would like an official listing.

russia

[Patriam1066]

Please post here what cuntries are Shitholes... I would like an official listing.

I'm about to go to a bar so instead I'll give you my 5 favorite beers:

1. Guinness, the real one you get in Ireland at room temperature with no carbonation
2. Sierra Nevada Torpedoes
3. Shiner Kosmos
4. 512 Pecan Porter
5. Lone Star

[Domo]

I say it with as much respect as possible, but the USA reached some South Park level.

[citizen1080]

I'm about to go to a bar so instead I'll give you my 5 favorite beers:

1. Guinness, the real one you get in Ireland at room temperature with no carbonation
2. Sierra Nevada Torpedoes
3. Shiner Kosmos
4. 512 Pecan Porter
5. Lone Star

I tried Irish Death the other night, i liked it.

[chadtwoke]

I say it with as much respect as possible, but the USA reached some South Park level.

its the leftist fake news retards that have reached a south park level of credibility. Not our president who's killin it.

[Ahldagor]

I'm about to go to a bar so instead I'll give you my 5 favorite beers:

1. Guinness, the real one you get in Ireland at room temperature with no carbonation
2. Sierra Nevada Torpedoes
3. Shiner Kosmos
4. 512 Pecan Porter
5. Lone Star

Shiner Kosmos is on point, and that's the only way to drink Guinness my good sir.

[JurisDictum]

2. Sierra Nevada Torpedoes


About 3 of those will get you torpedoed in my experience

I'd just get the Guinness myself. Dark beer actually does make your bones stronger.

[Xaanka]

Please post here what cuntries are Shitholes... I would like an official listing.

idk we could start with el salvador, if its not a shithole over there they must not have needed protected status in the usa for the past 17yrs so they can all go home and they'll totally be fine nobody on the left would get upset about that and label it a humanitarian crisis if we sent all these people back to el salvador and all their other countries that totally are not shitholes but they will die if we leave them over there!!11

maybe haiti too id say eating cooking oil-laced mud cakes because your people are starving so badly (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080130-AP-haiti-eatin.html) and having it be legal to murder an adulterous wife kinda makes a place a shithole. id also say having slavery makes a place a shithole, so there goes a lot of asia and the mid east :/ idk, the world's kind of full of shitholes my dude.

maybe just maybe when we bring these people over and they instantly start preaching kill whitey lol Ur kids are gonna B Brown you Racists its fair to acknowledge that these immigrants are representing themselves as ungrateful, entitled, and a threat to everything that made this place a desirable place to live to begin with? wow das raycis!

bend down and kiss the fking ring. we let them in, we improved their lives; we had no obligation to do this and we have no obligation to take bullshit from them. the only way we were able to let them into our country and improve their lives is inherently because america is better than their country.

for an example of how these people think of the west heres a link to a pre-migration crisis forum post on a nigerian website http://www.nairaland.com/1346880/giving-birth-canada

like idk maybe the whole chain migration anchor baby thing isnt working out for the USA. novel thought. maybe it doesnt make u a horrible person to acknowledge that the native population of the country gets the shaft by having to foot the bill for people to abuse a broken system?? maybe at some point something in your head might click and you'll realized how fucked it is that our own kids go into their 20's untrained or in crippling debt meanwhile anchor baby immigrants get subsidized education, up to 18% easier admissions @ ivy league compared to asian students, broader grant opportunities, welfare housing and food money directly in proportion to how many babies they pop out.. and then you make the native population kids entering the workforce in that crippling level of debt pay for all of it? hm yes welfare mass immigration system working great (at replacing you with someone who asks less questions reliably votes D)

in a shockingly woke freudian moment of truth and clarity 94% white Norway declares le 56% America a shithole, (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-norway/thanks-but-no-thanks-norwegians-reject-trumps-immigration-offer-idUSKBN1F11QK) which is accurate considering Norway has done a good job of keeping its immigration from shithole countries overrepresented in Norwegian crime stats (https://imgur.com/pda04HI) to a safe (https://archive.fo/ACtNo) and healthy (https://archive.fo/6vMgU) minimum.

obviously the lesson to be learned here is that in order to achieve the quality of life and low crime rates of norway, your country needs to be over 90% ethnically homogenous :)

[Xaanka]

the sad thing is its looking like trump might not have even said the shithole thing. i hope he did. read the turner diaries.

[AzzarTheGod]

russia

How dare u

[hyejin]

the sad thing is its looking like trump might not have even said the shithole thing. read the turner diaries.

I got lectured for like 2 hours about Trump for positing this one. I held on to the position and made an attritive dent in what remained but man it was a slog by the bog. It takes a lot of rewiring to get to 88

[Xaanka]

I got lectured for like 2 hours about Trump for positing this one. I held on to the position and made an attritive dent in what remained but man it was a slog by the bog. It takes a lot of rewiring to get to 88

never forget the alamo

[Pokesan]

yall larpers are undermining the hegemon

[Xaanka]

immigration is like america having a kid but that kid grows up and hes gay. its cool. we don't have anything against the gays. just let us be disappointed and maybe he should move out. hes still welcome over at thanksgiving.

[hyejin]

Are we letting his partner come over? I'm probably okay with it, but if he brings a black man over I just don't think I can take that

[JurisDictum]

9325

[mickmoranis]

Can anyone update if trump did say shithole countries, I’d love for this to turn out to be fake news cus o lawdy wouldn’t that be funny.

[Lhancelot]

Can anyone update if trump did say shithole countries...

https://i.imgur.com/miwQvB3.gif

[skarlorn]

I'm about to go to a bar so instead I'll give you my 5 favorite beers:

1. Guinness, the real one you get in Ireland at room temperature with no carbonation
2. Sierra Nevada Torpedoes
3. Shiner Kosmos
4. 512 Pecan Porter
5. Lone Star

1. good i bet never had
2. good stuff good
3. love shiner
4. sounds great i love nut stout ;)
5. what the fuck dude you dont have to pretend to like this just cause your ein texsa this is a trick beer it is pure garbage pisswater made by backcountry inbreds dude cmon now this is bad beeeer man cmon now

[skarlorn]

the real problem for america atm is that we used to UTILIZE these shithole immigrants in a big way. we made them build up the country and suffer for 1-2 generations in poverty; unless they turned to crime. nowadays we have "laws" so we aren't able to exploit these immigrants like we used to.

This is the problem when people argue that america has been built on the backs of immigrants so we should let ppl in unbridled. it aint' like it used to be. Yes, america WAS built on the backs of immigrants using the immigrants as our backup slaves.

I am not a supporter of doing that, so we need to reduce immigrant intake so that the people we let in are supporting US and also worth the US supporting.

Support triple post
you fucking alt-right weeb scum

[mickmoranis]

your pov is alt right fyi

[Xaanka]

Can anyone update if trump did say shithole countries, I’d love for this to turn out to be fake news cus o lawdy wouldn’t that be funny.

the quote came from a DNC staffer who was later found not to be present at the meeting its claimed trump said it during, and 2 people at that meeting said trump never said anything like that. so just like everything sensational the left hand wrings and kvetches about, its probably also fake news.

but we can all wish and believe right? whether he said it or not in reality at this point matters little. shithole countries has now entered the public sphere of consciousness.

[Lhancelot]

the real problem for america atm is that we used to UTILIZE these shithole immigrants in a big way. we made them build up the country and suffer for 1-2 generations in poverty; unless they turned to crime. nowadays we have "laws" so we aren't able to exploit these immigrants like we used to.


I think that's a sliver of the problem. Also, what America has learned is to privatize power/businesses that are lucrative so the rich get richer and the country gets poorer.

Correctional facilities are awesomely lucrative. So the rich have started to power through removing correctional facilities from state and county control and begun creating private correctional facilities where guards get paid much less and shittier benefits.

Wars used to be lucrative for the country too. People went to factories to build weaponry and war materials. Now, work is outsourced for cheaper labor.

We have private corporations/contractors (Halliburton etc.) that have taken over many of the money-making facets of war so the money goes not to the country and it's people but to the companies that now operate and get billion dollar contracts with the US government which foots the bill with our tax monies.

Rebuilding in Iraq? Hand that contract to Halliburton... Tax money goes out to pay these private corporations, none of it comes back in to the country (or very little.)

I mean, this is my perception of it, or at least a small sliver of what I see.

[Pokesan]

trump is too big a cuck to say something cool like that

[Xaanka]

the real problem for america atm is that we used to UTILIZE these shithole immigrants in a big way. we made them build up the country and suffer for 1-2 generations in poverty; unless they turned to crime. nowadays we have "laws" so we aren't able to exploit these immigrants like we used to.

we made them build up the country CITATION NEEDED

sorry fam this country was actually already built before the 1940's and most immigrants coming to this country don't have a single ancestral relative in the usa.

this country was not built on the backs of immigrants*, that's such a prominent lie and one would believe it to be true if they don't peel back the history books. there is no historical basis in reality for these claims.

*by immigrants i mean our modern understanding of "immigrants" ex not white europeans or chinese ppl, because lets get real when lefties say this country was built on the backs of ~immigrants~ they want you to conjure a mental image of an arab, a black, and a mexican, not a dutch guy and a scott*

This is the problem when people argue that america has been built on the backs of immigrants so we should let ppl in unbridled. it aint' like it used to be. Yes, america WAS built on the backs of immigrants using the immigrants as our backup slaves.

well it wasn't, but also slaves are not immigrants by definition. immigrant means you came here by choice, seeking temporary or permanent residence. i dont think any slaves came here because they thought early pre-slavery abolition america was gonna be shaggy 2dope 4words

I am not a supporter of doing that, so we need to reduce immigrant intake so that the people we let in are supporting US and also worth the US supporting.

this is the woke part of your post. despite buying into the "america is a melting pot" and "america is a nation of immigrants" post war revisionist lies hook line and sinker, this guy is woke to the fact that america can not handle unlimited, unregulated migration. especially not at our currently accelerated rates.

we can disagree on everything but still come to the same conclusions, i love america.


i'm gonna steal this paraphrased quote from some twitter i read on the shitter this morning: "The White Left and Jews would rather be slumlords over a global Brazil than citizens of a nation with gold-paved streets. "

as in, if the whole place goes to shit which it will if we import the third world at an unsustainable rate.... surprise big shocker here it goes to shit for everyone and becomes the same kind of hellscape shithole that immigrants came here to escape in the first place.

the above truth is the same reason why every other ICE guy is mexican

[Pokesan]

who built the railroads then

[Xaanka]

who built the railroads then

lol not arabs or mexicans

[Pokesan]

my zenkai got me stackin edits in the streets

[Xaanka]

oh i habitually edit every post like 10 times because i only post while high; dont reply to a xaanka post for the first 5 mins its up

[Pokesan]

panic move, its overtly about race now

how bout dem hawks?

[JurisDictum]

We are a nation of immigrants....just not the ones that immigrated after 1940....sure whatever.

Still immigrant as fuck.

Edit: Mexicans clearly deserve some credit. We only highlight the bad with Mexicans, they were a wounderful labour source. And only because standards have fallen precipitously would anyone consider picking veggies at low pay...that's pretty new. We needed the Mexicans in the past.

[JurisDictum]

You know, Trump is probably smart enough to block high paid professionals from shithole countries.

Now average IQ people are thinking something stupid like: "That doesn't make any sense JD, Trumps want's to end immigration of peasants from poor countries -- that's his point!"

Yes dumbass,

And there is always a core of highly educated capable people that work on the global market in these shithole countries. A privileged few, and some them those privileged few are exceptionally smart. So smart they want to make to America where they are likely to make the most money for themselves.

But not if Trump blocks the whole country. Now liberals get to bitch wholeheartedly and honestly at Trump for blocking professor Manduku on his way home from vacation -- "god what a racist idiot."

Meanwhile Trump is mostly right, we can do without immigrants from that country -- probably even professor Manduku (if not, we got special security clearances for that shit).

Divide and conquer.

[mickmoranis]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/hawaii-ballistic-missile-threat-alert-phones-was-false-alarm-officials-n837511

https://i.imgur.com/26k9Td7.gif

[Xaanka]

We are a nation of immigrants....just not the ones that immigrated after 1940....sure whatever.

Still immigrant as fuck.

Edit: Mexicans clearly deserve some credit. We only highlight the bad with Mexicans, they were a wounderful labour source. And only because standards have fallen precipitously would anyone consider picking veggies at low pay...that's pretty new. We needed the Mexicans in the past.

its dishonest as fuck to say immigrants (from europe and asia) built our country therefore we owe something to immigrants (from latin america and the middle east)

sorry dude but what really have they contributed other than destroying all the non-college young male career paths, spike the cost of education for native citizens and call whitey racist a lot?

these groups contribute little and are incredibly ungrateful for the generosity our country has given them. why would we want even more?

there's no shortage of unskilled labor in the united states; the benefit mexicans serve is that they are an unaccountable workforce that you don't need to insure or pay taxes on who don't count against small businesses when it comes to health insurance. go try telling someone in the rust belt the only thing they need is more mexicans.

youth male unemployment is insane rn because we've given every entry level job in the country to a non citizen, and its unfair to have them compete against people who not only will work for less than is often legal, let alone compete against undocumented people who cost businesses way less simply due to the fact that they're often hired under the table out of the eyes of federal employment regulations. if these people were citizens and employers had to treat them like real employees just like everyone else they would not be competitive in half the job markets they are in. half the reason you see mexicans in construction is so you can have a bunch of laborers while still being counted as a "small business" it's not like they're particularly adept at building things. they're simply cheaper because our country's moved past Sinclair's The Jungle so we have things like employee rights and stuff. surprise, you can't enforce that shit on non cits who can't even prove they ever worked for you. surprise, people who come from shitholes are tolerant of unethical working conditions and business practices because the alternative in their life is to go back to a shithole. surprise, penny counters figured out how to capitalize on this.

in addition its a fruitless argument to try to say there's some huge unfilled demand for unskilled work when AI's around the corner. the best way we can prepare for the inevitable future changes in the employment market is to stop letting people in who are statistically unlikely to contribute anything that isn't going to be replaced by AI in a decade or two. asia/india's adapting and when the time comes they are going to continue sending people worth having here over. i don't see any of these shitholes following suit. just look at the state of south america and the mideast and africa right now.

but really, raising that argument in general is something only one in a cloistered liberal coastal city would say; reality doesn't reflect the assumption that america is just begging for more mexicans when you go outside of liberal enclave cities. sorry but SF and Seattle and LA don't speak for the whole nation.

the only reason it is about race is because the white guilt left has created a system which punishes native born white men by rewarding every other group of individuals in the country. title vii and other laws create inequity which is leveraged to reinforce racial inequality of opportunity through systemic power. more or less it's the exact definition of the nu-left's revisionist definition of racism: prejudice plus power.

[Xaanka]

this country owes something to the irish, japanese and chinese. not somalians and haitians. if you had an ancestor who was a slave we owe you something too. if you're just black, pound sand.

[mickmoranis]

its dishonest as fuck to say immigrants (from europe and asia) built our country therefore we owe something to immigrants (from latin america and the middle east)

sorry dude but what really have they contributed other than destroying all the non-college young male career paths, spike the cost of education for native citizens and call whitey racist a lot?

these groups contribute little and are incredibly ungrateful for the generosity our country has given them. why would we want even more?

there's no shortage of unskilled labor in the united states; the benefit mexicans serve is that they are an unaccountable workforce that you don't need to insure or pay taxes on who don't count against small businesses when it comes to health insurance. go try telling someone in the rust belt the only thing they need is more mexicans.

youth male unemployment is insane rn because we've given every entry level job in the country to a non citizen, and its unfair to have them compete against people who not only will work for less than is often legal, let alone compete against undocumented people who cost businesses way less simply due to the fact that they're often hired under the table out of the eyes of federal employment regulations. if these people were citizens and employers had to treat them like real employees just like everyone else they would not be competitive in half the job markets they are in. half the reason you see mexicans in construction is so you can have a bunch of laborers while still being counted as a "small business" it's not like they're particularly adept at building things. they're simply cheaper because our country's moved past Sinclair's The Jungle so we have things like employee rights and stuff. surprise, you can't enforce that shit on non cits who can't even prove they ever worked for you. surprise, people who come from shitholes are tolerant of unethical working conditions and business practices because the alternative in their life is to go back to a shithole. surprise, penny counters figured out how to capitalize on this.

in addition its a fruitless argument to try to say there's some huge unfilled demand for unskilled work when AI's around the corner. the best way we can prepare for the inevitable future changes in the employment market is to stop letting people in who are statistically unlikely to contribute anything that isn't going to be replaced by AI in a decade or two. asia/india's adapting and when the time comes they are going to continue sending people worth having here over. i don't see any of these shitholes following suit. just look at the state of south america and the mideast and africa right now.

but really, raising that argument in general is something only one in a cloistered liberal coastal city would say; reality doesn't reflect the assumption that america is just begging for more mexicans when you go outside of liberal enclave cities. sorry but SF and Seattle and LA don't speak for the whole nation.

the only reason it is about race is because the white guilt left has created a system which punishes native born white men by rewarding every other group of individuals in the country. title vii and other laws create inequity which is leveraged to reinforce racial inequality of opportunity through systemic power. more or less it's the exact definition of the nu-left's revisionist definition of racism: prejudice plus power.

It’s ficking true, people need to realize that limiting immigration, especially illegal immigration is not even in the same ball park as being racist. Neither is choosing to limit it less from countries that respect themselves. It’s not racist to call a shit hole a shit hole.

[Xaanka]

reminder that none of these shithole countries are easy to emigrate to, nor will any of them let you work or give you citizenship just because you crossed their border illegally and started living there. a lot of them will put you to death for admitting such act.

[Pokesan]

this country owes something to the irish, japanese and chinese. not somalians and haitians. if you had an ancestor who was a slave we owe you something too. if you're just black, pound sand.

ah, the idea is we would owe them something in the future for services rendered in the present.

you know, because time is linear.

[Xaanka]

ah, the idea is we would owe them something in the future for services rendered in the present.

you know, because time is linear.

that's not the argument being made. whites in america are being told they owe something to these people when nothing has been contributed. they are not being told "you should let these people in because they will contribute something in the future and it will be worth it"
i wouldn't care so much if that was how immigration was being sold to us. it is a fair point to be made and should be weighed in immigration decisions. but that's not whats happening in reality.
the arguments being used to let these people in, every single time, boil down to "we owe them something."

how often does la raza talk about the great things they plan to contribute to america once we let them all have protected status? not very much it seems to be all about how whitey is racist if he doesn't let them all in.

--

also lollin at this, btw this is the reason black women are the most educated group in the country but also the most underachieving. i had a public school administration force me to do this to FES students once because they get a bunch of federal money based on how many FES's graduate not attend.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-19/project-baltimore

[Pokesan]

that's not the argument being made. whites in america are being told they owe something to these people when nothing has been contributed. they are not being told "you should let these people in because they will contribute something in the future and it will be worth it"
i wouldn't care so much if that was how immigration was being sold to us. it is a fair point to be made and should be weighed in immigration decisions. but that's not whats happening in reality.
the arguments being used to let these people in, every single time, boil down to "we owe them something."

how often does la raza talk about the great things they plan to contribute to america once we let them all have protected status? not very much it seems to be all about how whitey is racist if he doesn't let them all in.

--

also lollin at this, btw this is the reason black women are the most educated group in the country but also the most underachieving. i had a public school administration force me to do this to FES students once because they get a bunch of federal money based on how many FES's graduate not attend.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-19/project-baltimore

that's the argument i'm making. not sure what the rest of your post says.

anyway, how come mexicans pluckin our veggies for the last (50? im guessing) years doesn't count?

[Xaanka]

that's the argument i'm making. not sure what the rest of your post says.

anyway, how come mexicans pluckin our veggies for the last (50? im guessing) years doesn't count?

ok, so you're making an argument for immigration that is valid but is not the argument being made for immigration by 99.9% of people, so congrats on being a bit more sane than your counterparts. idk wake me up when i can hear that rhetoric come from the mouth of an immigration reform org or something i guess. seems like they go out of their way to avoid making arguments for merit based immigration to me.


i wouldn't exactly use modern farming as the poster child for why we need mexicans but that's not my choice heh.

[Pokesan]

ok, so you're making an argument for immigration that is valid but is not the argument being made for immigration by 99.9% of people, so congrats on being a bit more sane than your counterparts. idk wake me up when i can hear that rhetoric come from the mouth of an immigration reform org or something i guess. seems like they go out of their way to avoid making arguments for merit based immigration to me.


i wouldn't exactly use modern farming as the poster child for why we need mexicans but that's not my choice heh.

i'm fond of the phrase agriculture slaves but have no idea how to solve it.

anyway, just do whatever patriam says.

[Xaanka]

heres me the guy who clicked that nigerian forum thread and still says with a straight face that these people came here planning to contribute anything

[Pokesan]

heres me the guy who clicked that nigerian forum thread and still says with a straight face that these people came here planning to contribute anything

i glanced at it. their english seemed too good to be genuine.

perhaps i am the real racist? :rolleyes:

[Xaanka]

i spend a lot of my free time on africa facebook, because fun fact if a group page is primarily from one country facebook bases what content is allowed based on that country's laws instead of us law. meaning africa facebook has a lot of live videos of christians getting killed with gas soaked flaming tires and political assassinations. way more lit than chiraq. tbh africa pretty based #bantunationalism

i think the guys in the kenyan group dont like american blacks more than your average klansman lol

[Xaanka]

bantu
mother
fucking
naysh

https://i.imgur.com/hkOblaJ.jpg

[JurisDictum]

its dishonest as fuck to say immigrants (from europe and asia) built our country therefore we owe something to immigrants (from latin america and the middle east)

sorry dude but what really have they contributed other than destroying all the non-college young male career paths, spike the cost of education for native citizens and call whitey racist a lot?

these groups contribute little and are incredibly ungrateful for the generosity our country has given them. why would we want even more?

there's no shortage of unskilled labor in the united states; the benefit mexicans serve is that they are an unaccountable workforce that you don't need to insure or pay taxes on who don't count against small businesses when it comes to health insurance. go try telling someone in the rust belt the only thing they need is more mexicans.


There is elements of truth to this. It is true that Not all these people are contributing, we don't need them, and maybe we just don't fucking want them.

BUT

it comes back down to this BS argument about immigration:

youth male unemployment is insane rn because we've given every entry level job in the country to a non citizen, and its unfair to have them compete against people who not only will work for less than is often legal, let alone compete against undocumented people who cost businesses way less simply due to the fact that they're often hired under the table out of the eyes of federal employment regulations. if these people were citizens and employers had to treat them like real employees just like everyone else they would not be competitive in half the job markets they are in. half the reason you see mexicans in construction is so you can have a bunch of laborers while still being counted as a "small business" it's not like they're particularly adept at building things. they're simply cheaper because our country's moved past Sinclair's The Jungle so we have things like employee rights and stuff. surprise, you can't enforce that shit on non cits who can't even prove they ever worked for you. surprise, people who come from shitholes are tolerant of unethical working conditions and business practices because the alternative in their life is to go back to a shithole. surprise, penny counters figured out how to capitalize on this.

in addition its a fruitless argument to try to say there's some huge unfilled demand for unskilled work when AI's around the corner. the best way we can prepare for the inevitable future changes in the employment market is to stop letting people in who are statistically unlikely to contribute anything that isn't going to be replaced by AI in a decade or two. asia/india's adapting and when the time comes they are going to continue sending people worth having here over. i don't see any of these shitholes following suit. just look at the state of south america and the mideast and africa right now.

but really, raising that argument in general is something only one in a cloistered liberal coastal city would say; reality doesn't reflect the assumption that america is just begging for more mexicans when you go outside of liberal enclave cities. sorry but SF and Seattle and LA don't speak for the whole nation.

the only reason it is about race is because the white guilt left has created a system which punishes native born white men by rewarding every other group of individuals in the country. title vii and other laws create inequity which is leveraged to reinforce racial inequality of opportunity through systemic power. more or less it's the exact definition of the nu-left's revisionist definition of racism: prejudice plus power.

Conservatives do this all the time. As if in this moment -- as we talk about immigration -- nothing else has driven wealth inequality and immigration is the reason for the current economic problems people experience in the country. When in reality, immigration probably accounts for like 3% of the god damn problem. Some people would pay that 3% anyway because they just plain like immigration.

And there are people that just love immigration. They don't think this whole white, black, and brown divide should exist. And believe that we should all come together and love each other -- and immigration is how that is going to happen.

We need to disentangle some of this shit from the immigration issue. Immigration won't end racism or division, and its also not the main reason people feel poor all the time more and more.

This is like abortion....maybe you shouldn't be a Republican or Democrat based entirely around abortion -- because it shit else to do with the rest of the platform. Namely the economic part.

Republicans have damn near all their base convinced this IS why there are economic problems working class white people. Immigration. But they know that's not true. It has way more to do with modern finance, globalization, and the simple fact labor is more plentiful and useless than ever.

It's a great fucking story to sell poor white people on supporting a ultra-hyper forum of capitalism - ill give the spin doctors that.

[Xaanka]

im not the one bitching about systemic inequality, that's the left's job. i just call em when i see em. title vii das raycis!

[AzzarTheGod]

its dishonest as fuck to say immigrants (from europe and asia) built our country therefore we owe something to immigrants (from latin america and the middle east)

sorry dude but what really have they contributed other than destroying all the non-college young male career paths, spike the cost of education for native citizens and call whitey racist a lot?

these groups contribute little and are incredibly ungrateful for the generosity our country has given them. why would we want even more?

there's no shortage of unskilled labor in the united states; the benefit mexicans serve is that they are an unaccountable workforce that you don't need to insure or pay taxes on who don't count against small businesses when it comes to health insurance. go try telling someone in the rust belt the only thing they need is more mexicans.

youth male unemployment is insane rn because we've given every entry level job in the country to a non citizen, and its unfair to have them compete against people who not only will work for less than is often legal, let alone compete against undocumented people who cost businesses way less simply due to the fact that they're often hired under the table out of the eyes of federal employment regulations. if these people were citizens and employers had to treat them like real employees just like everyone else they would not be competitive in half the job markets they are in. half the reason you see mexicans in construction is so you can have a bunch of laborers while still being counted as a "small business" it's not like they're particularly adept at building things. they're simply cheaper because our country's moved past Sinclair's The Jungle so we have things like employee rights and stuff. surprise, you can't enforce that shit on non cits who can't even prove they ever worked for you. surprise, people who come from shitholes are tolerant of unethical working conditions and business practices because the alternative in their life is to go back to a shithole. surprise, penny counters figured out how to capitalize on this.

in addition its a fruitless argument to try to say there's some huge unfilled demand for unskilled work when AI's around the corner. the best way we can prepare for the inevitable future changes in the employment market is to stop letting people in who are statistically unlikely to contribute anything that isn't going to be replaced by AI in a decade or two. asia/india's adapting and when the time comes they are going to continue sending people worth having here over. i don't see any of these shitholes following suit. just look at the state of south america and the mideast and africa right now.

but really, raising that argument in general is something only one in a cloistered liberal coastal city would say; reality doesn't reflect the assumption that america is just begging for more mexicans when you go outside of liberal enclave cities. sorry but SF and Seattle and LA don't speak for the whole nation.

the only reason it is about race is because the white guilt left has created a system which punishes native born white men by rewarding every other group of individuals in the country. title vii and other laws create inequity which is leveraged to reinforce racial inequality of opportunity through systemic power. more or less it's the exact definition of the nu-left's revisionist definition of racism: prejudice plus power.

damn this sega a wokeologist

[AzzarTheGod]

this country owes something to the irish, japanese and chinese. not somalians and haitians. if you had an ancestor who was a slave we owe you something too. if you're just black, pound sand.

man i been workin out doing my dips to get triceps just to tell xaanka im ******************

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[Ahldagor]

What is dollars acquired through the latent function of higher education, stalling employment opportunities for 200, Alex?

[mickmoranis]

reminder that none of these shithole countries are easy to emigrate to, nor will any of them let you work or give you citizenship just because you crossed their border illegally and started living there. a lot of them will put you to death for admitting such act.

lol how daaare you call them shitholes!

Remember in the campaign when Hillary called New York ghettos beautiful places after trump called them crime infested ghettos?

Democucks just want to live with blinders on and pretend everything is fine.

[Xaanka]

What is dollars acquired through the latent function of higher education, stalling employment opportunities for 200, Alex?

yeah dude the college system which is totally not a joke and also fucked right now is going to magically turn somalians into hard working doctors scientists and lawyers even though the stats show that consistently they don't no matter how long they're here or how many social welfare benefits they're given. that's literally how mass immigration from the third world is being sold to the american public. the literal narrative which was sold to the boomers and caused us to get into this mess in the first place. its that these people from shithole countries are going to come here and become scientists who change the world because our own american kids are just so stupid and lazy with their snapchats and student loan debt and taxes. fucking lazy cunts the lot of them. we need more somalians. u nailed the narrative right on the head.

never mind that as i cited a page ago they dont even show up to class half the time :cool: and our education system is a joke outside of stem degrees which these people choose not to sign up for anyways.

[Xaanka]

i cited this like 9/11 pages ago but isnt it under like 1% or maybe 2% of mid eastern refugees in Sweden have attempted to seek employment in the first 5 years they're here? i can dig up the exact stat if i need to but lol its pretty grim.

lol the only thing white americans are becoming less tolerant of is being sold lies and empty promises by the same people who wish for our deaths :^)

[JurisDictum]

You know they have a bunch of skinhead liars with an agenda in Sweden as well. Maybe if these assholes weren't muddying up the waters with fake statistics I would be more prone to take the conservative side on immigration.

But I do think some level of rape cover-up must be occurring...where there is this much smoke their is probably fire. I can't bring myself to believe there isn't almost certain reprisal on immigrant rapists (that rape the native-born population)....especially like after the 2nd time?....hes really gonna not show up dead?

BTW, rape in Sweden is like grabbing a girl. So any inappropriate behavior is rape. Which is fine way to define it, but just keep that in mind like they do.

[zodium]

It's hilarious how a few years of bad propaganda has totally wrecked Americans' already very limited understanding of Sweden. Do they just write "here be dragons" on the map yet? :>

[JurisDictum]

It's hilarious how a few years of bad propaganda has totally wrecked Americans' already very limited understanding of Sweden. Do they just write "here be dragons" on the map yet? :>

So are you here to confirm there is massive immigrant rape cover up to further a globalist plot?

Because if not, I'm still stubbornly right. There are definitely skinheads making shit up in that country. We all got a few homegrown disappointments in our population.

[Ahldagor]

It's hilarious how a few years of bad propaganda has totally wrecked Americans' already very limited understanding of Sweden. Do they just write "here be dragons" on the map yet? :>

It should be taken out of the HUD. Immersion levels skyrocket then.

[skarlorn]

*by immigrants i mean our modern understanding of "immigrants" ex not white europeans or chinese ppl, because lets get real when lefties say this country was built on the backs of ~immigrants~ they want you to conjure a mental image of an arab, a black, and a mexican, not a dutch guy and a scott*

by immigrants i meant all immigrants including white europeans and chinese people. we do not owe anything to future immigrants because of the past. nice job totally twisting what i meant and writing pages of posts. i did not read anything beyond this line.

[AzzarTheGod]

It's hilarious how a few years of bad propaganda has totally wrecked Americans' already very limited understanding of Sweden. Do they just write "here be dragons" on the map yet? :>

smilin hard

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/pkVx43M.jpg

[Xaanka]

You know they have a bunch of skinhead liars with an agenda in Sweden as well. Maybe if these assholes weren't muddying up the waters with fake statistics I would be more prone to take the conservative side on immigration.

But I do think some level of rape cover-up must be occurring...where there is this much smoke their is probably fire. I can't bring myself to believe there isn't almost certain reprisal on immigrant rapists (that rape the native-born population)....especially like after the 2nd time?....hes really gonna not show up dead?

BTW, rape in Sweden is like grabbing a girl. So any inappropriate behavior is rape. Which is fine way to define it, but just keep that in mind like they do.

they were putting up official stats up until becoming rape capital of the world so its not a conservative conspiracy theory to say sweden was/likely still is rape capital of the world -- its the opinion of the swedish gov't and also the reason why they are no longer collecting racially identifiable stats. until they put out a stat showing that their rape rate has declined since ceasing to report, it's more than likely that sweden continues to be rape capital of the world.

we had this argument before on this board tho. in sweden apparently in a lot of circumstances its considered rape to smell a flower (Julian Assange) but theres like also a lot of examples of literal gang rapes with witnesses not being counted as rapes either. there was that case where what 6 or 8? refugee men in a row gang raped a crippled swedish lady in the bathroom of a refugee center but it wasn't counted as a rape because a crippled woman who suffers from fainting and weakness didn't fight back hard enough during her multi-hour repeat rape session. the best part about that example is that it wasn't a bunch of men gang raping that crippled women -- it was men raping her, leaving her in the bathroom, and then the next person who showed up would rape her. it says a lot that out of all the refugees who walked into this situation, 5+ joined in and raped her themselves and 0 contacted authorities or attempted to help her. she was stuck in the bathroom for hours and had to crawl to safety.

the big issue here is the culture clash. sweden never needed effective rape definitions because rape formerly wasn't a major problem over there historically.

a lot of these european countries dont have good rape laws and so flooding them with people who come from a culture where rape is accepted and encouraged, really isn't the best of ideas. in france for instance, rape was legal up until 1980.

then u gotta consider that things like tarriya (islamic rape game) or w/e its called started and were first reported in egypt not sweden and its like definitely a thing that exists that refugee men do. you can call it a conspiracy theory but liveleak exists :/

i didnt mention rape at all i was simply saying these economic migrants come to places like sweden seeking government hand out money and dont seek employment. if this is in the least bit surprising to you i guess start learning about islam because the idea that they are owed money by non-islamic westerners is hard coded into their religion. you have concepts like jizya and zakat, and then on top of that factor in that mohammed himself preached that it is forgivable and sometimes necessary and a religious obligation to tell non-muslims lies about islam to protect islamic agendas and its not like hard to figure out you're getting played by a 2,000 year old shithole religion.

[Pokesan]

sweden stopped publishing race crime stats in the 90s or something

get off 4chan

[Xaanka]

the left can not consolidate the fact that white europeans are under-represented in violent crime and rape in every single country they exist in globally.

[Pokesan]

i consolidate it thusly: the internet has made you retarded

[Xaanka]

sweden stopped publishing race crime stats in the 90s or something

get off 4chan

1995 is the first year they reported. national stats ended in 2001 but cities published individual reports many years after that. conveniently every report 404's but there's always good all archive.is to save the day.

[Xaanka]

i consolidate it thusly: the internet has made you retarded

if you think white european men and muslim men have the same rate of committing rape in any country you're fucking nuts

i understand having wishful thinking. kumbaya dude. but at some point you have to realize your opinions don't reflect reality or you're just insane.

[mickmoranis]

poke you downsized bro?

[Xaanka]

your reality determines the facts you choose to acknowledge and ones you avoid

my reality is created as a summation of facts

i don't want this to be true but its a sad reality: crime rate for individual racial groups are almost flat globally. it does not matter what country or what government or what system you're dealing with: black people commit more violent crime, rape, child molestation etc than whites.

i can consolidate a fact thats a shitty pill to swallow, the left doesn't seem to be able to. instead of being worried about denying reality offending people and making excuses for groups of people, i'm more worried about things like "why is this happening" and "how can this be fixed" and "is there a way for these people to integrate?"

we don't understand a lot of this shit, but one thing we do know is that these realities are NOT unchangeable. case in point, American black IQ's may still lag quite a bit behind average, but they are higher than African black IQ's. at some point as an entire group the average IQ went up, in a relatively short amount of time.

if you recognize reality hey, there might be a way to integrate people from countries where its OK to cut your wifes head off after publicly raping her if she sleeps with another man into the west. it might be a slow process, we may not be able to take massive amounts of them in annually, but i'd rather have immigration that betters everyones lives than immigration that lowers quality of life for both the native pop and the people coming in, compared to what could be. you will never save every single person from the third world so at some point the rate of immigration does need to be weighed against the quality of integration we're getting.

plus its really hard to compare historical immigration from like asians and europeans and mexicans to muslim migration; muslims are the only group the west has really ever dealt with that has religious hard-coded mechanisms to avoid societal integration of its followers to work against. jizya, taqiyya etc its there if you bother to pick up their quran and hadith.

you will never fix a problem you don't acknowledge.

[Pokesan]

poke you downsized bro?

yes. the eagles AND the fucking patriots won.

my boner can only get so small

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/7j6DvVM.jpg

[Pokesan]

your reality determines the facts you choose to acknowledge and ones you avoid

my reality is created as a summation of facts

i don't want this to be true but its a sad reality: crime rate for individual racial groups are almost flat globally. it does not matter what country or what government or what system you're dealing with: black people commit more violent crime, rape, child molestation etc than whites.

i can consolidate a fact thats a shitty pill to swallow, the left doesn't seem to be able to. instead of being worried about denying reality offending people and making excuses for groups of people, i'm more worried about things like "why is this happening" and "how can this be fixed" and "is there a way for these people to integrate?"

we don't understand a lot of this shit, but one thing we do know is that these realities are NOT unchangeable. case in point, American black IQ's may still lag quite a bit behind average, but they are higher than African black IQ's. at some point as an entire group the average IQ went up, in a relatively short amount of time.

if you recognize reality hey, there might be a way to integrate people from countries where its OK to cut your wifes head off after publicly raping her if she sleeps with another man into the west. it might be a slow process, we may not be able to take massive amounts of them in annually, but i'd rather have immigration that betters everyones lives than immigration that lowers quality of life for both the native pop and the people coming in, compared to what could be.

you will never fix a problem you don't acknowledge.

the answer is economic class, not skin color :)

[JurisDictum]

the answer is economic class, not skin color :)

and plagues.

In the case of Africa it is also important to note that the fact that its Africa mean it's hot and junglely-- making it harder to civilize. The terrain is difficult to navigate, especially with only goats and camels for the most part...and I guess maybe pigs? Europe had a lot of flat grasslands and horses with cows. Also wheat grain has more protein and that is all Europe.

[Xaanka]

https://i.imgur.com/qcwhYxL.jpg

[Xaanka]

the answer is economic class, not skin color :)

poor whites have lower crime rates than blacks in every part of the world. my brain wanted to jump to that conclusion coming from the ex libertarian muh capitalism perspective of my past but reality doesn't reflect that.

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/7j6DvVM.jpg

n1n1

[JurisDictum]

And then cops out with a bunch of racist "ban me" stuff on Jews.

[JurisDictum]

n1n1

If your guys point is a small group of obnoxious 16-24 year olds on social media are as bad as fascist -- no one is arguing with you...

even fuckin MSNBC is like "some kids are going to far"

[Pokesan]

poor whites have lower crime rates than blacks in every part of the world. my brain wanted to jump to that conclusion coming from the ex libertarian muh capitalism perspective of my past but reality doesn't reflect that.

Citation needed.

[Xaanka]

and plagues.

In the case of Africa it is also important to note that the fact that its Africa mean it's hot and junglely-- making it harder to civilize. The terrain is difficult to navigate, especially with only goats and camels for the most part...and I guess maybe pigs? Europe had a lot of flat grasslands and horses with cows. Also wheat grain has more protein and that is all Europe.

africans commit more crime and score lower on IQ in every country in the world not just africa

i guess the whole its harder to evolve as much there theory is arguable, especially for iq. the two main theories behind regional variations in cranial size and IQ are either that its harder to survive somewhere with 4 distinct seasons and a winter involving more long term planning= big brain. the other idea is a lot simpler -- larger heads retain heat better and brains just kinda grew to fit the cavity. because its considered edgy and racist, neither theory really has been looked into as much as they should despite being the only available explanations with validity.

iq isn't tied to race, its more closely tied to distance from the equator with the americas being the only exception to the rule (however considering how recent all kinds of migrations have happened there, unsurprising.) race just happens to be a social construct of skin color that is also kinda vaguely based on equator distance of your ancestors. race really is a pretty outdated concept to begin with so it gets confusing when you throw a nonscientific concept in with scientific ones.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/hpGxVgV.jpg

[Xaanka]

Citation needed.

pick any single country on the map you want

compare the white and black crime rate

adjust for average income according to the specific country

we can run through the numbers on any country of your choosing if you want, or you can just do it yourself. as far as i am aware there is not a single exception in the world. if you find one i'd legit like to know about it i couldn't find one.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/hpGxVgV.jpg

[Pokesan]

hell yes phrenology

[Pokesan]

pick any single country on the map you want

compare the white and black crime rate

adjust for average income according to the specific country

we can run through the numbers on any country of your choosing if you want, or you can just do it yourself. as far as i am aware there is not a single exception in the world. if you find one i'd legit like to know about it i couldn't find one.

source? you're making the claim, prove it.

[Xaanka]

hell yes phrenology

http://syslearn.oregonstate.edu/instruction/anth/smith/TimeMach1984.pdf
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.1330370605/pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018442X04000137

y lefties be science deniers?

[Xaanka]

source? you're making the claim, prove it.

pick a country. i'll source everything individually. the lie by omission is the oldest trick in the book.

like lets just agree to disagree for now and run through the facts and see who's worldview is better supported at the end of it. i will take an open mind with you, if you take one for me. prove you're not an idealogue and show me you value your beliefs enough to put them to the test.

[Pokesan]

pick a country. i'll source everything individually. the lie by omission is the oldest trick in the book.

indeed, the data would be misrepresentative if presented without accounting for wealth and income.

remember to include that in your report.

[JurisDictum]

Hold on, let me go get a degree in Anthropology really quick so I can know whether or not the racist p99 poster I'm talking to is cherry picking studies off some white pride site.

Edit: As naive as it sounds -- I'm going to have to go with majority opinion of modern anthropologists. I don't have the time to learn their subject as well as they know it. This makes it easy and way more accurate than everyone that fancies themselves way ahead of the scientific consensus.

[Xaanka]

Hold on, let me go get a degree in Anthropology really quick so I can know whether or not the racist p99 poster I'm talking to is cherry picking studies off some white pride site.

the correlation between iq and latitude is pretty well accepted, there's just a lot of debate or rather these days lack of debate over the cause. i presented the two best supported theories but there are a couple others i didn't mention as to the cause. the fact that this and a few other evil hatefacts haven't been successfully dis proven is a large reason why psych's been rushing to create all these new postmodern definitions of intelligence that change every couple of years, which is how you get things like "liquid memory" "crystal memory" "spacial intelligence" and a buncha other stuff that really doesn't differ from iq in most individual cases. brought to you by the same people who decided that transgenderism isn't a mental illness a year or two ago. the explanation you're supposed to believe if you believe all people are equal in intelligence is that IQ/general intelligence disparities get compensated for in other kinds of intelligence that we aren't as good at testing or aware of the existence of. idk its a weird topic because the whole idea of "what is intelligence" is up for debate right now.

first two studies i posted are published a bunch of places and have been cited a lot. the other one's a bit more obscure but its part of a slower field of study, that ones about ancestral hominids not humans.

not gonna lie both chains of thought have merit to them but neither one's been well proven. i won't buy into a postmodern definition until i see it shown to have a statistic disparity from one's iq in a demonstrable and repeatable manner, personally, but i won't write them off entirely either.

i guess its racist to like, want to have this debate as a society, instead of pretending things like intelligence disparities don't exist. they suck but they exist and i'd rather be prepared for the actual world that i'm living in not an idealized version of reality where everything magically works out in the end!1

suspend disbelief and pretend i am right and intelligence disparity exists regionally. mayhaps if we better understood why this happens we could do a better job of like changing it maybe??

[Patriam1066]

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I love you filbus I put #5 in there just as a cordial wink and nod joke to you

It's indeed piss man, God Bless Texas

[Xaanka]

lol welp looks like we got another male feminist rapey weird dude


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[AzzarTheGod]

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brb fappin to these sick bars. subliminals over so many fluoride brains on this forum

[zodium]

the correlation between iq and latitude is pretty well accepted, there's just a lot of debate or rather these days lack of debate over the cause. i presented the two best supported theories but there are a couple others i didn't mention as to the cause. the fact that this and a few other evil hatefacts haven't been successfully dis proven is a large reason why psych's been rushing to create all these new postmodern definitions of intelligence that change every couple of years, which is how you get things like "liquid memory" "crystal memory" "spacial intelligence" and a buncha other stuff that really doesn't differ from iq in most individual cases. brought to you by the same people who decided that transgenderism isn't a mental illness a year or two ago. the explanation you're supposed to believe if you believe all people are equal in intelligence is that IQ/general intelligence disparities get compensated for in other kinds of intelligence that we aren't as good at testing or aware of the existence of. idk its a weird topic because the whole idea of "what is intelligence" is up for debate right now.

You, my friend, are an artist. A gentle and creative soul.

A long, winding critique, denouncing IQ research being distorted by sociopolitical factors, pinning the blame on postmodernism, while grossly mangling even the very most basic IQ terms, like crystallized/fluid intelligence; terms that would have been covered already in an intro psych book subchapter about IQ, let alone a credible psychometric critique of post-working memory theory IQ research programmes? This is beauty. This is art.

The libtards will no doubt be extremely triggered by your work, my friend. Inshallah, America will soon rip itself apart.

[Ahldagor]

You, my friend, are an artist. A gentle and creative soul.

A long, winding critique, denouncing IQ research being distorted by sociopolitical factors, pinning the blame on postmodernism, while grossly mangling even the very most basic IQ terms, like crystallized/fluid intelligence; terms that would have been covered already in an intro psych book subchapter about IQ, let alone a credible psychometric critique of post-working memory theory IQ research programmes? This is beauty. This is art.

The libtards will no doubt be extremely triggered by your work, my friend. Inshallah, America will soon rip itself apart.

It's Xaanka's scrupulous pedantry that's so cute to watch.

[Pokesan]

the test we made up to prove our superiority proves our superiority

:confused:

[skarlorn]

I love you filbus I put #5 in there just as a cordial wink and nod joke to you

It's indeed piss man, God Bless Texas

Nice one my man. Hey I was in a hot tub yesterday at the gym and this rotund brown man was hanging out and he was wearing a golden necklace with the same symbol on your avatar. What is that thing? he was a really nice guy with handsome teeth and an appreciation for sunsets. reminded of me of you pal

lol welp looks like we got another male feminist rapey weird dude


https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
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https://i.imgur.com/riRs5qI.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/OZRDdMZ.png

obama shrekking lmao

You, my friend, are an artist. A gentle and creative soul.

A long, winding critique, denouncing IQ research being distorted by sociopolitical factors, pinning the blame on postmodernism, while grossly mangling even the very most basic IQ terms, like crystallized/fluid intelligence; terms that would have been covered already in an intro psych book subchapter about IQ, let alone a credible psychometric critique of post-working memory theory IQ research programmes? This is beauty. This is art.

The libtards will no doubt be extremely triggered by your work, my friend. Inshallah, America will soon rip itself apart.

nice catch here dear gatmanno

[JurisDictum]

Populists also showed antipathy toward immigrants, Jewish and otherwise. “We have become the world’s melting pot,” wrote Tom Watson, a leading Georgia populist. “The scum of creation has been dumped on us. Some of our principal cities are more foreign than American. The most dangerous and corrupting horde of the Old World have invaded us. The vice and crime they planted in our midst are sickening and terrifying. What brought these Goths and Vandals to our shores? The manufacturers are mainly to blame. They wanted cheap labor; and they didn’t care a curse how much harm to our future might be the consequence of their heartless policy.”

[Xaanka]

You, my friend, are an artist. A gentle and creative soul.

A long, winding critique, denouncing IQ research being distorted by sociopolitical factors, pinning the blame on postmodernism, while grossly mangling even the very most basic IQ terms, like crystallized/fluid intelligence; terms that would have been covered already in an intro psych book subchapter about IQ, let alone a credible psychometric critique of post-working memory theory IQ research programmes? This is beauty. This is art.

The libtards will no doubt be extremely triggered by your work, my friend. Inshallah, America will soon rip itself apart.

Looks like you're the one, well not denouncing, but you are attacking my post while casually avoiding engaging or commenting on any of the IQ research I have posted. That's all legitimate, peer reviewed, published, gets-cited stuff I posted.

I simply pointed out that the field of psychology had to create new "forms of intelligence" to avoid "evil racists" from coming to problematic conclusions based on IQ research. If you've ever picked up a psych textbook or read the comments on a paper on IQ even once in your life you would know this isn't a conspiracy that said research is distorted by sociopolitical factors, it's something acknowledged by like literally everyone in the field. if you managed to find a paper or a textbook or well, anything without mention of sociopolitical factors clouding research on the topic of race and IQ please show me, I'd love to see it. while you're at it mind pointing out how many of these "forms of intelligence" had been discovered before we found out that blacks average 20 iq points below whites?

its way too obvious you had to google everything and don't really know what I'm talking about, crystal/liquid memory is used interchangeably with crystal/liquid intelligence as its describing a function of memory recall. this would be really obvious if you knew what the terms meant lol.

keep it pseudointellectual, lefties :) remember always jump to the conclusion most convenient in your mind, NEVER do research, and NEVER engage opposing views. get some reading rainbow big words in your vocabulary and you'll be debating like a real leftie!

[Xaanka]

postmodernism and sociopolitical factors definitely have no impact on the field of psychology!!1 said someone who's never flipped open DSM-V

dude no jokes i'm gonna be laughing at you all morning for that one

haha fucking psychologists, arbiters of cultural indifference, gods amongst men. definitely not a bunch of ((()))

[zodium]

I push buttons. I turn dials. I read numbers. Sometimes I make up little stories in my head about what the numbers mean. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[Xaanka]

you seem to make up a lot because you don't even know what liquid memory means but you think it's real somehow ????????????


lol im spitting cheerios this is so funny

[Xaanka]

please im begging you show me how stupid i am, link me even just one study about race and IQ that doesn't discuss sociopolitical bias in either the comments, citations, or the paper itself.

ill even take something tangentially related to race and IQ, like idk even anything tertiary

[zodium]

Tell us more about Liquid Memory, my friend.

[skarlorn]

please im begging you show me how stupid i am

try checking out how much energy ur putting into official politics thread on p99 forums

check mate

[zodium]

:eek:

[Xaanka]

Tell us more about Liquid Memory, my friend.

show me a factor of general intelligence that differs from iq by more than 1 standard deviation in more than 1 in 1,000 individuals

[Xaanka]

"you used a made up nothing term wrong" oh no what will i ever do D:

[icedwards]

haha the weabo's angry

[Xaanka]

haha the weabo's angry

why have magelo links in your sig if your everquest characters arent even dank. bow down to your master. i am better than you at everquest.

[zodium]

Full monarchism now!

[Xaanka]

Full monarchism now!

my everquest character is the best geared in the thread so i get to be king (queen?)

[Xaanka]

in all seriousness lol yeah u got me its crystal/liquid intelligence i shouldnt be shitposting before bed and right when i wake up

but nigerian ima run with it you want to prove me wrong? BE READY FOR WAR YOU FUCKING CONT i will defend my use of "liquid memory" to the grave damnit

[icedwards]

red's dead, babe

[Pokesan]

never doubt the patriarch

[zodium]

in all seriousness lol yeah u got me its crystal/liquid intelligence i shouldnt be shitposting before bed and right when i wake up

but nigerian ima run with it you want to prove me wrong? BE READY FOR WAR YOU FUCKING CONT i will defend my use of "liquid memory" to the grave damnit

Cunt*

[Xaanka]

liquid memory is apparently what happened to my brain :c

[zodium]

My friend, you have a tough job and nobody blames you! I know how difficult it is to walk the line between knowing enough about psychology to present an argument for scientific racism without crossing over to where you just stop being a scientific racist. We have all been there my friend, ho ho, believe me, have we ever. The important thing is to just keep practicing on the internet, and you'll get all those little kinks ironed out one by one. You'll be ready to go to war with your friends and family and all the other people who really matter to you in no time!

[Xaanka]

My friend, you have a tough job and nobody blames you! I know how difficult it is to walk the line between knowing enough about psychology to present an argument for scientific racism without crossing over to where you just stop being a scientific racist. We have all been there my friend, ho ho, believe me, have we ever. The important thing is to just keep practicing on the internet, and you'll get all those little kinks ironed out one by one. You'll be ready to go to war with your friends and family and all the other people who really matter to you in no time!

yeah dude its always those evil racists, no way science could be an attempted objective reflection of reality

[Xaanka]

https://i.imgur.com/5IVbUjk.jpg

[JurisDictum]

Well once people admit that the immigration issue is going to have a minimal impact on working class economics -- I don't care.

The reason I hate the issue is because its just a woke test on whether you understand that "black" isn't even a race -- its just a skin reaction and all different kinds of genes exist among those with that skin reaction...mostly the same kind of genes people of white skin color have.

People think that's not true or some conspiracy -- whatever

What pisses me off is they are convinced everything will be fine economically once we get rid of the darkies or the lazy immigrants or what the fuck ever. And its never true. It's propaganda. It's feel good BS for beleaguered working class all-American men.

You might be the one stealing the land from Native Americans. But posting all this shit about immigration fucking working class people economically is the equivalent of being the guy pouring the drinks for them at one of those "negotiations." You know, where you get Chief Bragging Bull drunker than shit and get him to sign the dotted line.

That's all this immigration shit is on Brietbart and fuckin Fox.

[mickmoranis]

conservites are crazy because: they think illegal imigration will have an effect on the economy.

liberals are crazy because: they literally think world war 3 is going to happen and the end of days is already upon us thanks to man made climate change.

idk you tell me which one sounds more sane.

[skarlorn]

My friend, you have a tough job and nobody blames you! I know how difficult it is to walk the line between knowing enough about psychology to present an argument for scientific racism without crossing over to where you just stop being a scientific racist. We have all been there my friend, ho ho, believe me, have we ever. The important thing is to just keep practicing on the internet, and you'll get all those little kinks ironed out one by one. You'll be ready to go to war with your friends and family and all the other people who really matter to you in no time!

rly fcking stoked Gatmanno is hitting up Off Topic now

tagged and bagged xaanka on ur Premiere Release.

keep the scope on this one, ATG

[AzzarTheGod]

no lie i almost scoped him in his debut post but the VISION3 500T Color Negative Film reels i ordered hadn't come in yet. the vibration of his impact was felt

[Pokesan]

https://i.imgur.com/5IVbUjk.jpg

i need this explained to me. it's a syringe in a parking meter?

i think this is about free drug zones

[Patriam1066]

Shiner Kosmos is on point, and that's the only way to drink Guinness my good sir.

Where can I get 6 packs. I hate having to buy the shiner family reunion 6-packs

I tried Irish Death the other night, i liked it.

Not sure I can find this in Texas. Looked it up and it seems like something I'd enjoy though

[Pokesan]

irish death is poison and tastes like an ash tray. never had a worse morning off 2 beers.

[Ahldagor]

Where can I get 6 packs. I hate having to buy the shiner family reunion 6-packs



Not sure I can find this in Texas. Looked it up and it seems like something I'd enjoy though

It's small batch only and only available in the family packs.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/PKrerv8.jpg

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/PKrerv8.jpg

when democrats try to woke you.

[Xaanka]

still lolling at how bizzare it is that liberals of all people are pretending haiti isn't a shithole in 2018, especially after the clintons themselves played a major role in fucking it up.

its almost as funny as when they pretended cuban hospitals didn't look like scenes from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Well once people admit that the immigration issue is going to have a minimal impact on working class economics -- I don't care.

The reason I hate the issue is because its just a woke test on whether you understand that "black" isn't even a race -- its just a skin reaction and all different kinds of genes exist among those with that skin reaction...mostly the same kind of genes people of white skin color have.

People think that's not true or some conspiracy -- whatever

What pisses me off is they are convinced everything will be fine economically once we get rid of the darkies or the lazy immigrants or what the fuck ever. And its never true. It's propaganda. It's feel good BS for beleaguered working class all-American men.

You might be the one stealing the land from Native Americans. But posting all this shit about immigration fucking working class people economically is the equivalent of being the guy pouring the drinks for them at one of those "negotiations." You know, where you get Chief Bragging Bull drunker than shit and get him to sign the dotted line.

That's all this immigration shit is on Brietbart and fuckin Fox.

i dont think anyone wants to kick out all the black people that's a strawman. there's a big difference between kick out all the darkies, and "slow down the firehose of unskilled people migrating from shithole countries" just kinda shows how out of touch liberals get from reality, everything's gotta be so black and white. no wonder yall obsessed with race.

anyone implying current immigration figures (total amounts, where people are coming from etc) have anything to do with historical immigration are nuts. whole different beast in TYOOL.

The reason I hate the issue is because its just a woke test on whether you understand that "black" isn't even a race -- its just a skin reaction and all different kinds of genes exist among those with that skin reaction...mostly the same kind of genes people of white skin color have.

this is very true but it's very unwoke to say that biological variance in people would not lead to differences in the brain when we recognize that it does in every other aspect of human biology. unless you can prove some kind of mechanism where literally everything else about us can vary so much except for exactly the socially uncomfortable things like intelligence, you're cherrypicking the biotruths convenient to your social narrative and casually ignoring ones you're inadvertently supporting the existence of. idk not seeing a lot of white people with sickle cell anemia and i don't think european dna typically causes a wide nasal bridge but maybe we aren't so different and those blood cells are just racist cunts.

race is an outdated simplification of population biology IMO, so really racist isn't something i can be because i don't think race is anything but a social construct thing. i believe people biologically vary and that there are observable trends and averages based on regional adaptations which are most easily separated and recognized by our brains that love to prioritize visual information using skin tone, because it vaguely represents the boundaries of these biological groups in most parts of the world (but also doesn't in others, like for example Africa, which has more genetic variance than the entire rest of the world combined, despite the fact that they mostly visually look like just look like "northern africans" "sub saharans" and "pygmie africans", give or take a couple more visually identifiable groups.)

rly fcking stoked Gatmanno is hitting up Off Topic now

tagged and bagged xaanka on ur Premiere Release.

keep the scope on this one, ATG

not really he pointed out that i got a technical term wrong and dunked but he also avoided addressing any of the actual content of my arguments. outside of vernacular, no statement i posted has been demonstrated to be untrue. would be a logical fallacy to say mistakes i made in arguing my point make my conclusions untrue. anyone's welcome to try, but as far as i'm concerned nobody's attempted to engage on regional variance of IQ yet. so until further notice failure to recognize regional disparity in IQ is science denying fake news.

[mickmoranis]

liberal "not admitting climate change is man made and happening is denial"

liberal "how dare you say the truth about these countries!"

Clinton Trump Debate 1: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/26/the-first-trump-clinton-presidential-debate-transcript-annotated/?utm_term=.07c039d2496f)

TRUMP: But we need law and order. And we need law and order in the inner cities, because the people that are most affected by what's happening are African-American and Hispanic people. And it's very unfair to them what our politicians are allowing to happen.

HOLT: Secretary Clinton?

CLINTON: Well, I've heard Donald say this at his rallies, and it's really unfortunate that he paints such a dire negative picture of black communities in our country.

TRUMP: Ugh.

it will never cease to amaze me how libtards just want to PRETEND things are not a problem, unless they ahve to do with climate change or trump being a nazi then they're like HOLY SHIT THIS IS REAL IMPORTANT

[Xaanka]

a novel idea: ignoring inner city black on black* crime and whining about cops who are more likely to shoot a white man than a black man on a per-encounter basis, because they're scared to death of media attention and ACLU lawyers, isn't going to solve any of the problems with inner city black communities.


another novel idea: an end to the perpetuation of this violent cycle would not benefit the progressive-left's perceived-inequity racial-unrest driven social agenda, and it would lead to less blacks voting D.


* actually literally most violent crime can be narrowed down to 18-23 year old black males; if you cut this one demographic out the overall black community's crime rate is like the same as anyone's

[Xaanka]

when you think about it, the only way you can really make a case for the human brain having no regional biological variance is to make a case against evolution. if someone's thought of something i haven't i'd like to see your ideas, but i can't think of a possible explanation for why brains would be exactly the same in every group of people that doesn't contradict evolution. anyone have an explanation for this which i'm missing? i'm all ears :)

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/qIWUkEI.png

[Xaanka]

i went on african facebook to see what africans think about africa

i kinda followed this election he's talking about, they posted a live video of one of the candidates getting assassinated a while ago.

https://i.imgur.com/uJH8Iyf.jpg

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/HEOJs.gif

[Xaanka]

http://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/local-news/police-investigating-homicide-in-ne-charlotte

COP ON COP VIOLENCE HAS TO STOP. wait what timeline was i on again? :c

[Ahldagor]

We get it Xaanks, you don't move color TV's.

[Xaanka]

We get it Xaanks, you don't move color TV's.

bow down and kiss the bowl

https://i.imgur.com/qcO5ruI.jpg

bowl cut bridage never give up never surrender

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5272703/Police-13-siblings-chained-California-home.html

[Xaanka]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-13/vegas-gunman-sent-cryptic-email-about-bumpfire-ars-100-round-magazine-massacre

vegas shooter warrant unsealed. contained citations of emails indicating Paddock was an arms dealer.

there's been a lot lot more weirdness since. ex changing stories involving campos, another security guard and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/31/las-vegas-police-say-officer-accidentally-fired-weapon-inside-gunmans-hotel-suite/

[AzzarTheGod]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-13/vegas-gunman-sent-cryptic-email-about-bumpfire-ars-100-round-magazine-massacre

vegas shooter warrant unsealed. contained citations of emails indicating Paddock was an arms dealer.

there's been a lot lot more weirdness since. ex changing stories involving campos, another security guard and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/31/las-vegas-police-say-officer-accidentally-fired-weapon-inside-gunmans-hotel-suite/

As I said paddock didn't participate in any shooting. He was assassinated for breaking rules.

This just confirms the arms dealer gone wayward who was then slated for execution theory.

He had too many security clearance from too many branches of government to just "snap ".

*flicks toothpick*

Get woke

[Xaanka]

As I said paddock didn't participate in any shooting. He was assassinated for breaking rules.

This just confirms the arms dealer gone wayward who was then slated for execution theory.

He had too many security clearance from too many branches of government to just "snap ".

*flicks toothpick*

Get woke

may have something to do with the saudis on the floor above yknow given what happened right after vegas overseas

idk, gun sale arranged with people cia has interest in fucking with -> target figures out shit's fucked -> kill the patsy before anyone gets there, spray out the window to create situation which would delay additional feds from showing up knowing they're probably coming, and gtfo?

who knows.

[AzzarTheGod]

may have something to do with the saudis on the floor above yknow given what happened right after vegas overseas

idk, gun sale arranged with people cia has interest in fucking with -> target figures out shit's fucked -> kill the patsy before anyone gets there, spray out the window to create situation which would delay additional feds from showing up knowing they're probably coming, and gtfo?

who knows.

right all we can really say is paddock is a patsy. anything past that is just fill-in-the-blanks based on the government-controlled facts we have been offered.

the whole thing is cringe and im honestly done with this story. i think you kinda are too...when tucker carlson covered it tonight I was cringing and i realized how done I am with vegas. any media coverage is just an insult to our intelligence at this point

[Ahldagor]

Vegas story was done 36 hours after it happened. Were there any Russians or Uzbekistanis? They're sneaky nationalities.

[Ahldagor]

bow down and kiss the bowl

https://i.imgur.com/qcO5ruI.jpg

bowl cut bridage never give up never surrender

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5272703/Police-13-siblings-chained-California-home.html

A young Bo Burnham? Didn't ckick.

[maskedmelon]

so a bunch of odd news sources from google say it was liek a foiled assassinaton attempt on the Saudi prince or somethin'.

just thought I would share what I learned from beneath my rock (o^^o)

[mickmoranis]

wow amazing stuff guys keep it up I cant wait to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

[maskedmelon]

Thought it is interesting that rural California is seeking independence from urban/costal California. Apparently they'll be setting up a new state government and in one to two years, they'll start working with the California state government to separate. will be interesting if this happens.

[JurisDictum]

The whole idea of "the State of Jefferson" goes way back to pre-WW2 times..

9341

They also want to take part of Oregon

9342

The idea is the rural forest area is different than all the cities that "represent" the people of this area. South CA is absolutely nothing like North CA...

The problem is that the culture is Oregon is moving against this sort of thing... It is getting more urban along the southern coast and there isn't as many red necks per capita.

And this is very much a red neck movement.

[Pokesan]

jefferson is a non-starter, lay off the opium

[maskedmelon]

the thingy I saw had a different map though and didn't involve Oregon. It was basically just all of California except the urban costal counties.

[JurisDictum]

the thingy I saw had a different map though and didn't involve Oregon. It was basically just all of California except the urban costal counties.

That must be the more updated map. The rest of the counties -- as Pokesan notes - are no longer high enough on opiates.

[Pokesan]

NCR is more likely than peaceful balkanization