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Ahldagor
02-20-2018, 06:01 PM
Single white moms don't exist. They're like black people who tip at restaurants
I'm a product of a single white mom along with my sister. Her struggle, 2 kids (no child support due to a crack addict father), full time job, and nursing school, taught me to work. She sacrificed damn near everything for us. It's not a lack of fathers, but a lack of basic discipline and an instilled, innate respect for other things that's the issue. The hyper individualistic culture we have now is what's undoing the fabric of unity. Just look at the lack of sensical, basic ethics in argumentation now and days because people are too caught in being "right".
Teppler
02-20-2018, 06:07 PM
I'm a product of a single white mom along with my sister. Her struggle, 2 kids (no child support due to a crack addict father), full time job, and nursing school, taught me to work. She sacrificed damn near everything for us. It's not a lack of fathers, but a lack of basic discipline and an instilled, innate respect for other things that's the issue. The hyper individualistic culture we have now is what's undoing the fabric of unity. Just look at the lack of sensical, basic ethics in argumentation now and days because people are too caught in being "right".
Oh brother... Just look at the statistics, it tells you pretty plainly. It's not some abstract claim of 'individuality' whatever that hell that means, it's stuff like single motherhood that's ruining society. Now stop being delusional and take your first step in uncovering what modern day policies are pushing single motherhood rates much higher.
skarlorn
02-20-2018, 06:18 PM
Individualism is the ideal that the needs of your ego must be sated at the expense of the group or family unit. It's a devaluation of collective health and hypervaluation of the illusion of pride. This ideal also leads to more single motherhood because both mothers and fathers are valuing the family unit less and their own carnal lust or need to be dominate in the relationship more.
hope that helps clear it up for you
Teppler
02-20-2018, 06:21 PM
Individualism is the ideal that the needs of your ego must be sated at the expense of the group or family unit. It's a devaluation of collective health and hypervaluation of the illusion of pride. This ideal also leads to more single motherhood because both mothers and fathers are valuing the family unit less and their own carnal lust or need to be dominate in the relationship more.
hope that helps clear it up for you'
Flimsy, abstract and weak.
Have any statistics to back up any theory about rising individualism and it's negative effect on society? I wouldn't believe the phenomena exists and even if it did I would question a negative effect.
Patriam1066
02-20-2018, 06:23 PM
Thread got too serious
Did y'all know Turks, Kurds, Arabs, and Shia militiamen from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Iraq are all fighting each other in northeastern Syria at the behest of Iran? LOL
my people are dunking on everyone and going to conquer once the smoke clears. I'm very proud
Ahldagor
02-20-2018, 06:27 PM
Oh brother... Just look at the statistics, it tells you pretty plainly. It's not some abstract claim of 'individuality' whatever that hell that means, it's stuff like single motherhood that's ruining society. Now stop being delusional and take your first step in uncovering what modern day policies are pushing single motherhood rates much higher.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/individuality
Funny that the archaic definition isn't applicable to today's usage due to the mutability of language. Would you like to know more?
skarlorn
02-20-2018, 06:30 PM
sorry you struggle with abstract concepts.
This indicates you have poor development in your frontal lobes!
Patriam1066
02-20-2018, 06:31 PM
Is trump banning bump stocks?
Patriam1066
02-20-2018, 06:33 PM
Individualism is the ideal that the needs of your ego must be sated at the expense of the group or family unit. It's a devaluation of collective health and hypervaluation of the illusion of pride. This ideal also leads to more single motherhood because both mothers and fathers are valuing the family unit less and their own carnal lust or need to be dominate in the relationship more.
hope that helps clear it up for you
To be fair, the whole reason I advocate for Christianity is to counter this. You need hyper motivated individualists like Elon Musk or my grandson, the future first emperor of the United States. Nonetheless, you need competitiveness to be tempered by communitarian values for the vast majority of the population. Even if jesus is only a metaphor, this sad ass obese diabetic lazy fake news believing indoctrinated pablum consuming rapidly declining nation needs him like I need GAINS
mickmoranis
02-20-2018, 06:35 PM
I definitely agree that the disintegration of family strength creates mental health issues which lead to catastrophic personal problems.
I read an interesting book about spirituality as a means of community connection - no matter what religion or whatever, basically if people felt connected with their community and participated in life-enforcing events (dancing, singing, weddings, group rituals), there was an improvement in the population's mental health and lowering of addiction.
However, I disagree that the problem is multi-culturalism. America has always been multi-cultural and I consider it one of our greatest strengths. I think the de-valuation of immediate family is more a symptom of American culture over-valuing individualism as opposed to valuing the family unit over one's self. I certainly was raised with ideals that led to choosing isolated individualism in prideful pursuits, and I would also argue that these same ideals led me to cocaine abuse as a form of narcissism in my early 20s.
The best things in life are basic. Good food and being around people you love. Meeting other people. Learning to be happy for others.
Vladimir Putin ( my favorite world leader) does a good job of really encouraging nuclear family values. I wish he was our tyrant.
I definitly think:
Information age > multiculturalism
when it comes to increase in violent crime.
We havent evolved for 500,000 years to be able to handle the hysteria from 100% of the worlds population.
We just arnt built for it, and probubly wont ever get past the growing pains it cause.
Teppler
02-20-2018, 06:41 PM
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/individuality
Funny that the archaic definition isn't applicable to today's usage due to the mutability of language. Would you like to know more?
No, you've said enough lol. It's abstract and flimsy because there's nothing you can point to that shows it's firm existence and it's not measurable. And I'm guessing you want policy changes based on your feels here?
Unlike the single motherhood meme which has plenty of stats attached to it. And there's policies we can point to that coincide with it's recent big uptick. Rising individuality is an answer without having an actual answer. You might as well blame whitey at that point. It's got about that much substance.
maskedmelon
02-20-2018, 06:55 PM
No, you've said enough lol. It's abstract and flimsy because there's nothing you can point to that shows it's firm existence and it's not measurable. And I'm guessing you want policy changes based on your feels here?
Unlike the single motherhood meme which has plenty of stats attached to it. And there's policies we can point to that coincide with it's recent big uptick. Rising individuality is an answer without having an actual answer. You might as well blame whitey at that point. It's got about that much substance.
if you and i understand the sky is blue, whether we agree it is indigo or turquoise, why must either of us offer any evidence that it is not magenta if it too is known to us?
AzzarTheGod
02-20-2018, 06:59 PM
Individualism is the ideal that the needs of your ego must be sated at the expense of the group or family unit. It's a devaluation of collective health and hypervaluation of the illusion of pride. This ideal also leads to more single motherhood because both mothers and fathers are valuing the family unit less and their own carnal lust or need to be dominate in the relationship more.
hope that helps clear it up for you
*almost doesnt backread*
*catches skarlorn post, reverses course*
skarlorn
02-20-2018, 07:22 PM
To be fair, the whole reason I advocate for Christianity is to counter this. You need hyper motivated individualists like Elon Musk or my grandson, the future first emperor of the United States. Nonetheless, you need competitiveness to be tempered by communitarian values for the vast majority of the population. Even if jesus is only a metaphor, this sad ass obese diabetic lazy fake news believing indoctrinated pablum consuming rapidly declining nation needs him like I need GAINS
dabbing tears from my eyes at this post brethren;
i want to point out that Elon Musk also has strong family values and inseminated his wife multiple times to produce children while in his 20s. god bless
AzzarTheGod
02-20-2018, 07:30 PM
i had no idea elon musk had completed the ultimate mission of kids in your 20's.
AzzarTheGod
02-20-2018, 07:31 PM
if some of us could be so lucky
mickmoranis
02-20-2018, 08:13 PM
I just want to point out that I also think women are inferior to men when it comes to raising children and also when it comes to basically everything else!
Eslade
02-20-2018, 08:51 PM
Bruce Jenner won woman of the year.
AzzarTheGod
02-20-2018, 08:56 PM
Bruce Jenner won woman of the year.
it was propped up. truth came out he was shaking in the hallway of the vanity fair cover and saying to himself "what have i done" and had a nervous breakdown.
also new close source from Ben Shapiro that he is going to quietly "de-transition" over the next few years and has already been living as a man all this time. he is just waiting because he doesnt want to betray the agenda after all that rah rah. people are going to be so angry everyone here is going to be able to drink the tears when the water finally breaks on his fake transition.
hes batshit crazy and hes about to firebomb the whole trans movement.
Ahldagor
02-20-2018, 09:38 PM
it was propped up. truth came out he was shaking in the hallway of the vanity fair cover and saying to himself "what have i done" and had a nervous breakdown.
also new close source from Ben Shapiro that he is going to quietly "de-transition" over the next few years and has already been living as a man all this time. he is just waiting because he doesnt want to betray the agenda after all that rah rah. people are going to be so angry everyone here is going to be able to drink the tears when the water finally breaks on his fake transition.
hes batshit crazy and hes about to firebomb the whole trans movement.
That would be awesome.
mickmoranis
02-20-2018, 10:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/0oUfilw.jpg
https://imgur.com/r/milliondollarextreme/Ay7vM
The best memes are funny, brutal and true.
Try and figure out what policies are leading to single motherhood rise for one.
quoting this hilarious meme cus it must be seen often
Ahldagor
02-20-2018, 10:17 PM
No, you've said enough lol. It's abstract and flimsy because there's nothing you can point to that shows it's firm existence and it's not measurable. And I'm guessing you want policy changes based on your feels here?
Unlike the single motherhood meme which has plenty of stats attached to it. And there's policies we can point to that coincide with it's recent big uptick. Rising individuality is an answer without having an actual answer. You might as well blame whitey at that point. It's got about that much substance.
No policy advocation on my plane. You missed the obvious. I'm part of the positive side of those statistics which means I'm right because facts don't matter anymore. Git gud.
skarlorn
02-21-2018, 01:05 AM
Lol thats fucking good
AzzarTheGod
02-21-2018, 01:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/JjFcIzf.jpg
they about that life
Jarnauga
02-21-2018, 11:22 AM
Thank god republicans are here to defend ourselves against the REAL threats
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article198722829.html
mickmoranis
02-21-2018, 11:51 AM
Thank god republicans are here to defend ourselves against the REAL threats
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article198722829.html
maybe this will stop school shootings!
god bless these christian soldiers.
#magalol
Teppler
02-21-2018, 12:01 PM
maybe this will stop school shootings!
god bless these christian soldiers.
#magalol
You joke but it would help.
Destruction of the family unit coincides with sicker and sicker porn becoming normalized. We know the drastically negative effects of a society with a weak family unit. Put 2 and 2 together.
There's been historical societies and nations in the past that became more and more hedonistic and it usually doesn't coincide with a nations prosperity.
Do the research on who is profiting off it.
mickmoranis
02-21-2018, 12:06 PM
You joke but it would help.
Destruction of the family unit coincides with sicker and sicker porn becoming normalized. We know the drastically negative effects of a society with a weak family unit. Put 2 and 2 together.
There's been historical societies and nations in the past that became more and more hedonistic and it usually doesn't coincide with a nations prosperity.
Do the research on who is profiting off it.
Muslims aren't hedonistic at all tho
Teppler
02-21-2018, 12:14 PM
Muslims aren't hedonistic at all tho
There's a lot of positive aspects of the muslim religion/culture.
Spyder73
02-21-2018, 12:56 PM
Such as 9/11
Wait that was Bush nevermind
Teppler
02-21-2018, 01:22 PM
as much as i reject the fuck out of muslim culture it's significantly more woke than whatever shit we have going on now in the west TBQH
Muslims aren't a major enemy. They are weak and poor people as a whole.
They hate us because we attack, brutalize them and destabilize their countries.
And they don't fit in with western culture, just like we don't fit in with theirs, so when you try to jam a bunch of refugees in crowded spaces with regular american, bad stuff happens.
Jarnauga
02-21-2018, 04:12 PM
Do the research on who is profiting off it.
let me guess..
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
ZE JOOZ !!!?!!11!!? )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))
skarlorn
02-21-2018, 10:43 PM
i'd like someone to argue that school shootings are just being propped up by liberal jews to encourage a weapons grab so that america, the last shinign beacon of freedom, can finally be turned into a cuck state
Patriam1066
02-21-2018, 11:36 PM
Thank god republicans are here to defend ourselves against the REAL threats
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article198722829.html
Porn is actually very bad
Degenerates should not be given options that support social isolation. While life is a struggle, it is through the trial and error of that struggle that we learn to be complete and content human beings. Porn is weakness. Vice will never be virtue. Weakness will never be strength
Hope this helps!
No more mistakes
Patriam1066
02-21-2018, 11:39 PM
There's a lot of positive aspects of the muslim religion/culture.
Nah
Not really. They take that shit to an extreme. Protestantism is the perfect balance of rationality, conviction, virtue, family, Russell Crowe, capitalism, altruism, and dogma
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 12:05 AM
lil marco gets wrecked
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/966500059499069442/video/1
LMAO solid crowd thunks
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 12:37 AM
Porn is actually very bad
Degenerates should not be given options that support social isolation. While life is a struggle, it is through the trial and error of that struggle that we learn to be complete and content human beings. Porn is weakness. Vice will never be virtue. Weakness will never be strength
Hope this helps!
No more mistakes
Admiring your strong dualist perspective.
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 12:44 AM
Porn proliferation is just an answer to puritanism
Ull notice how much smaller the pornography business is in France and to a lesser extent Spain for example. There is a huge puritan movement in France at the moment however.
So albeit there's not always a direct correlation, Patriam is every bit the unevolved caveman he represents himself to be.
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 12:52 AM
in my gut i feel you have a strong point ATG
however I feel that i could be Mortal Enemies with Patriam and still appreciate his point of view.
live by the shitpost, die by it
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 01:02 AM
I'm in the middle of a war on totalitarians
Keep ur valuable head low while the bump stocks rip
Ps good episode of Tucker 2Nite
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 01:11 AM
Porn can actually be helpful for navigating your sexual interest in an otherwise heteronormative atmosphere.
It's not all fetishes, porn addicts, and exploitation. But some of it is.
We like to watch professionals play sports. Why wouldn't we like watching professionals fuck?
Ahldagor
02-22-2018, 02:04 AM
Patriam hails from the land of Zoroastor. Duality is a truth of this existence since you can get just as close to God through Lucifer as through Jesus. Paradise Lost by Milton if you can stomach the blank verse in your craws.
Laugh In Outro:
Much respect from your giant friends. We didn't drown in the flood like ol' boy wanted us to, did we?
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 02:38 AM
i think porn has led to ladies accepting it in the rump moreoften
this is a good thing
What a hypocrite
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 03:09 AM
What a hypocrite
not everyone has smoked their libido into anti-matter
pokes is often known to be in search of a rump bouncing
Teppler
02-22-2018, 07:54 AM
Porn can actually be helpful for navigating your sexual interest in an otherwise heteronormative atmosphere.
It's not all fetishes, porn addicts, and exploitation. But some of it is.
We like to watch professionals play sports. Why wouldn't we like watching professionals fuck?
Because it’s largely unhealthy on an individual and societal level. There’s countless amounts of studies that go into the negative effects of things such as the dopamine rushes which alone becomes like a drug.
The porn industry largely isn’t profitable. What you believe is exploration is programming more than anything.
And women becoming bigger whores isn’t a positive thing. It feeds into the destruction of the family unit which has huge negative mental effects on the whole family. This is like a double whammy after you’ve already fucked your brain up with constant dopamine rushes.
Nice critical thinking for you porn addicts though. Looks like you guys thought this one through really well.
I never been to USA, but even me know that the USA will never ban their guns.
I think mostly because for many people their constitution is like some "holy artifact" or so, which should be never changed. *shrug*
Beside that, I don't buy any pro-gun arguments other than, "We just like guns so we don't want them banned."
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 12:31 PM
You can basically break the entire world down into dopamine rushes and social programing. It's sounds all dark an edgy but really its just dry, sciency and boring. People love pop science though.
Weed can actually save your sex life. But I guess that would contradict all that 80s propaganda about marijuana and porn destroying your life and this being the end of history.
Meanwhile. It's kind of funny the out and gay population exploded around the time everyone started looking at porn.
Women were always whores throughout history...this is like a modern Angelo idea -- that women are pure and good. It's a very new notion indeed. Throughout history, men were considered more likely to be good and rational and less likely to be promiscuous than women.
Modern women want to have good sex (not shitty awkward T.V. family-network-approved sex) but want to pretend to be "good girls"...Some are finally just saying fuck it to the "good girl" image. This has always been the case, but its happening now in larger numbers.
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 12:37 PM
I never been to USA, but even me know that the USA will never ban their guns.
I think mostly because for many people their constitution is like some "holy artifact" or so, which should be never changed. *shrug*
Beside that, I don't buy any pro-gun arguments other than, "We just like guns so we don't want them banned."
Those are just the people willing to talk to you about their political opinions. Here's the main thing I like about conservatives (as a large generalized group) -- they are much more brave and honest about their own political views.
Most liberals I met will literally smile and nod like your a crazy person for disagreeing with whatever the fuck it is they think atm (it changes more than what conservatives think). And that's why Trump won. Trump won because tweeting amongst your friends is no match to saying what you think more openly.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 01:01 PM
Millennials:
The least sex, the most STDs, the most in debt, the most diabetic and obese generation in American history. It's my generations fault though. We weren't firm enough.
Y'all mistake Puritanism. It still spawned Rhode Island and Nathaniel Hawthorne, but it also produced rationality and economic success. I'm not about to post a long winded diatribe here, but I really think y'all give your culture no credit and don't understand the consequences of it falling apart. See you on the field of Mars
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 01:02 PM
I never been to USA, but even me know that the USA will never ban their guns.
I think mostly because for many people their constitution is like some "holy artifact" or so, which should be never changed. *shrug*
Beside that, I don't buy any pro-gun arguments other than, "We just like guns so we don't want them banned."
You let Arabs gang rape your women. If I wanted your opinion I'd ask mustafa
You let Arabs gang rape your women. If I wanted your opinion I'd ask mustafa
make sence since you have more in common with mustafa then with me.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 01:08 PM
make sence since you have more in common with mustafa then with me.
Sorry I just hat eeuropeans commenting on American politics. Y'all are huge pussies and your countries have no sunlight
Mblake81
02-22-2018, 01:14 PM
I never been to USA, but even me know that the USA will never ban their guns.
I think mostly because for many people their constitution is like some "holy artifact" or so, which should be never changed. *shrug*
Beside that, I don't buy any pro-gun arguments other than, "We just like guns so we don't want them banned."
You and JD should share pot brownies and gay sex.
Patriam hails from the land of Zoroastor. Duality is a truth of this existence since you can get just as close to God through Lucifer as through Jesus. Paradise Lost by Milton if you can stomach the blank verse in your craws.
Laugh In Outro:
Much respect from your giant friends. We didn't drown in the flood like ol' boy wanted us to, did we?
Fire Walk With Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQSzajmDhKw)
Sorry I just hat eeuropeans commenting on American politics. Y'all are huge pussies and your countries have no sunlight
Then ignore me or flag this thread/forum as US only mate.
I know that my opinion dosent matter on US politics, but I am only here to have a chat from time to time and share diffrent opinions and thoughs with all kind of people.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 01:30 PM
Amen brother thread henceforth Houston only
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 01:31 PM
I'll nod to the twin peaks link
mickmoranis
02-22-2018, 01:51 PM
gee i wonder what kinda culture the guy in pokes pic is from.
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 01:58 PM
Please don't envy Houston car art scene
Teppler
02-22-2018, 02:17 PM
You can basically break the entire world down into dopamine rushes and social programing. It's sounds all dark an edgy but really its just dry, sciency and boring. People love pop science though.
Weed can actually save your sex life. But I guess that would contradict all that 80s propaganda about marijuana and porn destroying your life and this being the end of history.
Meanwhile. It's kind of funny the out and gay population exploded around the time everyone started looking at porn.
Women were always whores throughout history...this is like a modern Angelo idea -- that women are pure and good. It's a very new notion indeed. Throughout history, men were considered more likely to be good and rational and less likely to be promiscuous than women.
Modern women want to have good sex (not shitty awkward T.V. family-network-approved sex) but want to pretend to be "good girls"...Some are finally just saying fuck it to the "good girl" image. This has always been the case, but its happening now in larger numbers.
The family unit is falling apart. This is not how it's always been.
Life itself is a series of dopamine rushes but not all dopamine rushes are created equally. When you look at sicker and sicker porn, which is what you need when you become a dopamine addicted porn addict, you become a dopamine junky. That results in lack of energy, depression and a lot of other fun stuff. Not only that but you get a real distorted view of the opposite sex and sex itself that has shitty social consequences for a whole country. Porn pushes a society's women to become bigger whores and I've already cited all the negative effects single motherhood has on a society. That is fact. So if you don't like mental illness and school shootings, you may want to look into policy that encourages the family unit's growth.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 04:09 PM
texan?
Ever play roulette? Always bet on black
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 04:10 PM
The family unit is falling apart. This is not how it's always been.
Life itself is a series of dopamine rushes but not all dopamine rushes are created equally. When you look at sicker and sicker porn, which is what you need when you become a dopamine addicted porn addict, you become a dopamine junky. That results in lack of energy, depression and a lot of other fun stuff. Not only that but you get a real distorted view of the opposite sex and sex itself that has shitty social consequences for a whole country. Porn pushes a society's women to become bigger whores and I've already cited all the negative effects single motherhood has on a society. That is fact. So if you don't like mental illness and school shootings, you may want to look into policy that encourages the family unit's growth.
If you're suggested busing to parochial schools at gun point and mass executions of the obese I'm in agreement
mickmoranis
02-22-2018, 04:59 PM
Ever play roulette? Always bet on black
https://i.imgur.com/x0zRmZs.gif
Ahldagor
02-22-2018, 05:08 PM
Amen brother thread henceforth Houston only
Second that. Does Skarlorn get an honorary admittance for having resided in Houston?
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 05:10 PM
houston mafia assemble
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 06:09 PM
You let Arabs gang rape your women. If I wanted your opinion I'd ask mustafa
me running daywolf off the forums was one thing but now ur going to run domo off the forums? Not on my watch pal
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 06:09 PM
make sence since you have more in common with mustafa then with me.
solid thunks
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 06:14 PM
houston mafia assemble
https://i.imgur.com/8ZbEpHg.jpg
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 06:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/pmrONVz.jpg
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 06:26 PM
there is no family unit in shithole countries hmm ��
perhaps the family unit is cultural and its modern use stems from Christianity ��
and perhaps culture is inseparable from race ��
vibrantdiversity
The family is a stronger unit in many shithole countries compared to Western Europe and especially America. Strong family unit = corruption. So its not the cure all for societies ills. It certainly does not stem from Christianity
Christianity means a thousand different things to a thousand different self-identified Christians, and is not responsible for school shootings, imperialism, or American greatness. It was coincidence.
Obviously, people are religious. The most powerful country is going to have a religion. That religion happened to be Christianity. Which again, means whatever people seem to want it to. ATM "not-Muslim/Buddhist" seems to be the working definition of most people. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, the million different kinds of protestants with all there different political views.
That is not a cohesive unit. Except for when your trying to round people up to oppose faceless and nameless Muslims and communists.
Edit: its particularly stupid to solo out the culture that invented the "nuclear family" and then -- out of all ways to explain it -- hold up the religion Christianity as particularly pro family. In fact. I think you might be the exact opposite of right. I think Christianity may not sufficiently support family, put too much emphasis on the individual and their salvation, and this decrease in family loyalty allowed us to pull ahead building up to WW2. The decline of America probably coincides with increase in family loyalty, friendly ties, and corruption.
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 06:38 PM
Maybe its competition...
Maybe its christianity...
Maybe its the enlightenment and the founding fathers
Or maybe....just maybe....it was all just a big headstart from WW2; we aren't the best and should stop jerking ourselves off long enough to assess why that is.
China has a much stronger family unit I might add. But it has been a problem. The logical end-point of a competitive system is an oligarchic monopoly (https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/11/13/lets-just-admit-it-capitalism-doesnt-work). Capitalism doesn't work in the long run, its just good to get the factories running faster than they would otherwise. The Chinese and their strong family ties excelerate this. That's probably how they passed us in government innovation despite their disadvantages in the great war eras. They understood the problems of concentrated inherited wealth better.
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 06:44 PM
Maybe its competition...
Maybe its christianity...
Maybe its the enlightenment and the founding fathers
Or maybe....just maybe....it was all just a big headstart from WW2; we aren't the best and should stop jerking ourselves off long enough to assess why that is.
China has a much stronger family unit I might add. But it has been a problem. The logical end-point of a competitive system is an oligarchic monopoly (https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/11/13/lets-just-admit-it-capitalism-doesnt-work). Capitalism doesn't work in the long run, its just good to get the factories running faster than they would otherwise. The Chinese and their strong family ties excelerate this. That's probably how they passed us in government innovation despite their disadvantages in the great war eras. They understood the problems of concentrated inherited wealth better.
Right and Americans act like we don't already have central planning and that we haven't implemented any communist/socialist policies. Its called the Dept of Agriculture and if you think that isn't textbook communist central planning you're an idiot.
Extend the central planning on commodities to corporations. Its not hard. If you half-step with central planning you end up with perverse crony-capitalism, the current worst-case scenario. The US needs to finish what has already been started since the 1950's.
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 06:49 PM
Right and Americans act like we don't already have central planning. Its called the Dept of Agriculture and if you think that isn't textbook communist central planning you're an idiot.
Well we all have central planning.
But America is has the most open system (meaning any lobbyist from any country can try to influence power...try that in China or something). Their is the least amount of welfare and the most amount of personal freedom (but not the least amount of taxes -- LOL).
It's the least centrally planned out of all the major power economies....the other blaring difference between us and other great powers, is that we are the military state that has a far stronger military than anyone in the world.
It's expensive -- especially when you also finance the highest number of millionaires, billionaires, and trust fund kids. The welfare that does exist seems more for the benefit of the bureaucrats it employs than the people its supposed to help. There isn't alot of hope or money for the working class. Relative to other great powers that is. If were not certain you would be born rich -- picking America as a country to be born in would be a lot more stupid than any other great power besides Russia.
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 07:04 PM
It's expensive -- especially when you also finance the highest number of millionaires, billionaires, and trust fund kids. The welfare that does exist seems more for the benefit of the bureaucrats it employs than the people its supposed to help. There isn't alot of hope or money for the working class. Relative to other great powers that is. If were not certain you would be born rich -- picking America as a country to be born in would be a lot more stupid than any other great power besides Russia.
Agree w/ the last sentiment especially with regard to the numbers. The wage stagnation has been crazy. Its hard to believe since 1990's wages have only declined and have not risen an inch since 1999. Every American is just 1 accident or medical expense away from abject poverty and the corporations are complicit in their effort to maintain the best bottom line possible, aka wage slavery or feudalism. The tax cuts were passed. The Disney heiress said she will only pocket 30 million in pure cash as a result. The idea that it goes anywhere but Wallstreet to various finance funds is archaic and hopefully this last tax cut is something millennial will remember the next time its offered as a solution to a stagnant middle class economy.
The welfare that does exist seems more for the benefit of the bureaucrats it employs than the people its supposed to help.
I felt that was the most profound thing you said and very worthy of highlight. You have a fresh perspective.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 07:14 PM
Second that. Does Skarlorn get an honorary admittance for having resided in Houston?
https://youtu.be/yxPZ3yplwR0
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 07:18 PM
The family is a stronger unit in many shithole countries compared to Western Europe and especially America. Strong family unit = corruption. So its not the cure all for societies ills. It certainly does not stem from Christianity
Christianity means a thousand different things to a thousand different self-identified Christians, and is not responsible for school shootings, imperialism, or American greatness. It was coincidence.
Obviously, people are religious. The most powerful country is going to have a religion. That religion happened to be Christianity. Which again, means whatever people seem to want it to. ATM "not-Muslim/Buddhist" seems to be the working definition of most people. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, the million different kinds of protestants with all there different political views.
That is not a cohesive unit. Except for when your trying to round people up to oppose faceless and nameless Muslims and communists.
Edit: its particularly stupid to solo out the culture that invented the "nuclear family" and then -- out of all ways to explain it -- hold up the religion Christianity as particularly pro family. In fact. I think you might be the exact opposite of right. I think Christianity may not sufficiently support family, put too much emphasis on the individual and their salvation, and this decrease in family loyalty allowed us to pull ahead building up to WW2. The decline of America probably coincides with increase in family loyalty, friendly ties, and corruption.
Christianity is just the Middle of the road religion that was one pillar of a culture that came out of the Roman Empire. Both the history of the Roman political unit and the religion are important
I'm not saying to be a dogmatic retard who believes Jonah literally got swallowed by a whale. I'm simplying saying your generation makes excuses before it even tries and is generally spineless, dickless, sexless, penniless, and senseless
Hope this helps! Stop making mistakes!!!!
Also dude hop off China's dick I'm telling you Japan America & India will "dunk" on them
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 07:30 PM
me running daywolf off the forums was one thing but now ur going to run domo off the forums? Not on my watch pal
https://i.imgur.com/8ZbEpHg.jpg
Haha I lol'ed
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 07:30 PM
How the fuck was Steven seagal famous
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 08:27 PM
The truth is that Christianity used to be very violent. Then enlightenment ideas of non-violence soften Christian countries. This is sometimes during/after the colonial era that Christianity becomes less about trying to control the world by sword if necessary.
And it goes to show you how society always seemed to meld Christianity...more-so than the other way around. The idea of a Christian capitalist in Jesus time didn't make any sense...but boy did christian capitalists become common in America. Both in the first guilded age in the 1800s and the 2nd now a days.
Back in the day, like 1100 A.D. Christians literally rounded up as many strong men as they could find, put them on a boat, and had them just go kill random enemies throughout Europe. They would like roll into a town of Jews and kill them for being Jewish -- or any other group like Muslims or Eastern Orthodox Christians. They didn't even really think or struggle with this, it was just what seemed like the thing to do at the time. Because from societies standpoint, a bunch of thugs that couldn't read lead by some incestuous king, just killing enemies wherever they are seemed like a good idea...more territory for us.
The entire concept that its not OK to kill your enemies is not a dark age idea. I'm starting to wonder if its a good idea at all. Does it really help everyone?
Or does it just replace one kind of alpha (big strong men) with another (social climbing nerds good with numbers). I'm not entirely convinced that being lead by super smart nerds good with numbers is panning out as well as being lead by strongmen.
Teppler
02-22-2018, 08:46 PM
The truth is that Christianity used to be very violent. Then enlightenment ideas of non-violence soften Christian countries. This is sometimes during/after the colonial era that Christianity becomes less about trying to control the world by sword if necessary.
And it goes to show you how society always seemed to meld Christianity...more-so than the other way around. The idea of a Christian capitalist in Jesus time didn't make any sense...but boy did christian capitalists become common in America. Both in the first guilded age in the 1800s and the 2nd now a days.
Back in the day, like 1100 A.D. Christians literally rounded up as many strong men as they could find, put them on a boat, and had them just go kill random enemies throughout Europe. They would like roll into a town of Jews and kill them for being Jewish -- or any other group like Muslims or Eastern Orthodox Christians. They didn't even really think or struggle with this, it was just what seemed like the thing to do at the time. Because from societies standpoint, a bunch of thugs that couldn't read lead by some incestuous king, just killing enemies wherever they are seemed like a good idea...more territory for us.
The entire concept that its not OK to kill your enemies is not a dark age idea. I'm starting to wonder if its a good idea at all. Does it really help everyone?
Or does it just replace one kind of alpha (big strong men) with another (social climbing nerds good with numbers). I'm not entirely convinced that being lead by super smart nerds good with numbers is panning out as well as being lead by strongmen.
Christianity doesn’t conflict with capitalism.
As Gods son, Jesus gave from a position of great abundance. Christians are encouraged to do the same but that doesn’t necessarily mean give away all your money as soon as you make it. For all of Jesus’s lessons there’s also interpretation on how to implement them.
JurisDictum
02-22-2018, 08:55 PM
Christianity doesn’t conflict with capitalism.
As Gods son, Jesus gave from a position of great abundance. Christians are encouraged to do the same but that doesn’t necessarily mean give away all your money as soon as you make it. For all of Jesus’s lessons there’s also interpretation on how to implement them.
9542
Before Christianity hitched its wagon to western imperialism -- it was not pro capitalist. Adam Smith saw Christianity as a counter-balance to capitalism to prevent it from declining into a oligopolistic dystopia.
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 09:01 PM
wakanda movie
wakanda actual
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=685_1519125519
AzzarTheGod
02-22-2018, 09:03 PM
re dark ages something about jews being kept around for money lending because usury was considered sinful?
yaw usury was against christian law but its not just a dark ages thing. that goes wayyyy back to Italy before Christianity existed.
usury was considered very nasty low brow business and was shunned by ALL of society. Not just plebs. Elites considered it very nasty business.
usury is also banned in Islam but you could argue they were just copying Christian policy. they designed loopholes around it in 2018. usury remains banned but with the loopholes and the rulings its pseudo legal.
Teppler
02-22-2018, 09:15 PM
9542
Before Christianity hitched its wagon to western imperialism -- it was not pro capitalist. Adam Smith saw Christianity as a counter-balance to capitalism to prevent it from declining into a oligopolistic dystopia.
Like I said there’s interpretation and context. First you have to be filled up to release. As the son of God Jesus was filled with unlimited energy to give. How can one realize the salvation of releasing your earthly possessions without knowing your earthly possessions first? Jesus’s acts and lessons aren’t a final judgement but a fluid lifestyle guide.
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 10:33 PM
I don't blame you for not knowing this but we wouldn't have really had any recorded history from the roman empire or the rest of europe and its surroundings without christian monks, so even though a lot of these things aren't exactly christian values christianity is the reason they survived to the modern era.
they realllllllly don't even try to teach the dark ages these days so ya not being a dick for correcting u on this 1.
I don't understand your post or where I disagreed with monks keeping history alive
Ahldagor
02-22-2018, 10:36 PM
And Yeshua entered The Temple of God and cast out all of those who sold and bought in The Temple and upset the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves.
-Matthew 21:12
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 10:38 PM
9542
Before Christianity hitched its wagon to western imperialism -- it was not pro capitalist. Adam Smith saw Christianity as a counter-balance to capitalism to prevent it from declining into a oligopolistic dystopia.
No shit dude precisely my point
Roman Empire = state apparatus, militarism, authoritarianism
Christianity = kindness, generosity, family
By our powers combined, we got Captain Planet aka the first American empire aka moon landings, back to back world war champs, and pretty much everyone I've ever liked.
Christianity was the perfect moral compass to oppose capitalism. When we were able to juggle more than one idea at a time, something we've apparently lost, this juxtaposition produced a rapidly advancing nation that was a huge credit to the rest of the planet. Now, your generation, least Christian in history, is the most obese diabetic STDs least sex most tranny and most likely to get dunked on by me in public
skarlorn
02-22-2018, 11:24 PM
ok hold up
christianity is not perfect
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 11:42 PM
ok hold up
christianity is not perfect
Not alone ***** try to keep up. Western civ is great Christianity played a role now all the foreigners and losers are fucking it up trying to salvage this sinking ship for my grandchildren can't leave such a shitty world as their inheritance
God bless!
Patriam1066
02-22-2018, 11:43 PM
Wow I got censored
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 12:23 AM
*daps strong family unit*
Touche
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 12:33 AM
ok hold up
christianity is not perfect
Regulatorssssss
Mafia broke up with the quickness
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 12:47 AM
silence, churl this is don to don
Let's first move that all Obese must be captured or executed
Ahldagor
02-23-2018, 01:41 AM
silence, churl this is don to don
Let's first move that all Obese must be captured or executed
What about their organs? Easy money like what China does with prisoners.
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 02:50 AM
silence, churl this is don to don
Let's first move that all Obese must be captured or executed
churl is really reaching. lets go with knave
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 03:34 AM
re dark ages something about jews being kept around for money lending because usury was considered sinful?
If you're really bored or find religious politic interesting, this issue is being raised in Britain again as of late. This article does a pretty good job of educating on the different facets of Sharia finance.
The mental picture of shuffling money around behind your back, and shuffling of money between three people standing in a semi-circle to accomplish the exact same definition of an activity is quite hilarious, so maybe you are interested.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/oct/29/islamic-finance-sharia-compliant-money-interest
It varies from country to country. Some countries have more bizarre loopholes than others. But an observant tan skin cannot be involved in any direct usury business or accept a direct loan. So instead its done through indirect loans. As far as I know, even the most hardcore Sharia countries still allow you to take out a car note. If you can slap a hardcore Sharia country in my face as an example of a NO LOAN ZONE I'd be legit surprised.
I'm under the weather so can't give you the cliffs on what an indirect loan is, but I do know that the Islams invented it. And according to the Guardian, they are "inventing" a whole new "sector" of semi-circle handjuggling finance.
Patriam1066
02-23-2018, 07:05 AM
silence, churl this is don to don
Let's first move that all Obese must be captured or executed
Second
What about their organs? Easy money like what China does with prisoners.
Agree but I don't want their fatty organs
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 07:42 AM
sharkposters and boosters embrace me, and the posts I be making
I dumbed down for my audience, to double my dollars
the people criticized me for it, yet they all yell "holla"
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 08:09 AM
Second
Agree but I don't want their fatty organs
*zooms in on Patriam1776*
https://i.imgur.com/qrB9E3N.gif
Woah there fella, this doesn't look like a God-fearing friendship.
At all.
Ahldagor
02-23-2018, 09:31 AM
Flu get to you Azzar? Rhythm in your posts is different.
Lol, this argument again? http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43168774
Does President Trump understand how many gamers voted for him for him for the lols?
Patriam1066
02-23-2018, 10:18 AM
Lol houstonians think alike but nice gif. Also, my passionate hatred for the obese is well known
Patriam1066
02-23-2018, 11:52 AM
I have a question for the houstonians. Also open to commie JD. What do y'all think of airbnb? I think it incentivizes wealthy Chinese with ill gotten gains to rent or buy, thereby raising rent across major cities in America. #1, I have a soft spot for people who actually work and get fucked over by "the free market" in this manner
#2, I fucking loathe foreign nationals being able to owns real estate. Chinese are making places on west coast unaffordable and I'm sure it'll spread to dallas and Houston. 100% tariffs on all Chinese goods
Thanks and God bless, fuck commerce
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 01:47 PM
Airbnb sucks it's not even cheaper than hotel
I will say that it should be allowed to operate because free market capitalism YEEHAW.
however, the people renting out on the bnb must prove they are not chinese or in any way empowering chinese nationals. beijing delenda est.
churl is really reaching. lets go with knave
ok sorry my bad on this 1 as you know i get carreid away
and yet you seem to not grasp the severity of the OBESE problem. This is a SERIOUS issue. These "people" should not be allowed equal rights. Here is my proposed rollout.
Pass the Antifat legislation.
Capture all protestors (this will be easy - they are fat)
Allow fatties a grace period to prove they are losing weight. We'll create a rubric to scaling back and as long as a person is following government health mandates, they are allowed to roam free.
During this time, intense scrutiny is placed on the parents of obese children. These children must be saved. We will capture them.
Place the captured obese into fat-camps (concentration camps). "LOSING WEIGHT WILL SET YOU FREE" is the slogan. Children go to a nicer camp because it's nto their fault. Adult fat camp will be a nightmare zone of psychological abuse until you hit an acceptable weight.
IF the obese does not comply at any point, they will be taken to a liquidation facility. We will capture their fat from their bodies and SELL IT as a FOOD SOURCE to china for premium dollar. IF the obese survives liquidation, they will be allowed to continue living IF and ONLY IF they remain un-obese.
American Heart Association will be our Secret Polizia.
"But what about the people who just have a dna disease or health problem that makes them an Obese?"
OBESUM DELENDA EST.
Patriam1066
02-23-2018, 02:54 PM
wow what kind of fucked up economic system would allow such abuse?
Washington state was not invited to the discussion. Cease and desist
Thanks and God bless
My good chum
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 03:41 PM
i enjoy the lol m79 dunk
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 05:19 PM
Flu get to you Azzar? Rhythm in your posts is different.
?
Lol actually yes first time in some years. Very perceptive. IRL that was mentioned to me as well. Probably be another week to right itself
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 06:22 PM
more like 2 weeks at this current rate of insistence. if i really bunker down and meditate and sleep and stop heavy duty conversations IRL maybe 10 days.
Grimjaw
02-23-2018, 09:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6QKMF7c.jpg
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 09:21 PM
eh if police are gonna stand outside i guess we gotta arm the teachers lmao
no way. we bullied the fuck out of some adam lanza teachers in my day.
if one of you fuckers lobbied for a gun in their hand we wouldnt be here. u heard of actual tampons in your 8:00 AM morning coffee? let that sink in. let that marinate. 8 AM.
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 09:42 PM
how can you read that and have your takeaway be "double down on the gun thing" regardless of if ur pro or against it
florida shooting clearly had nothing to do with guns other than that a gun facilitated that crime but all evidence shows the dude was fucking nutso enough that he would have just found some other way to do horrible things there really are deeper issues to address going on here.
just no way. it needs to be veterans who have been doing security detail work and security contract work. young teachers are in a transition period where they are going through an adjustment and learning the necessary social skills to deal with students. adding a gun into that mix is just retarded for what is an extremely rare circumstance. mass shootings are ridiculously rare. you dont inject guns into all of our schools because it WILL lead to deaths and accidents.
armed teachers is only going to lead to accidents and false escalations of force. we were literally jamming shit down this teachers throat we're only alive because a gun nut like u guys didnt put a firearm in his hand and tell him to use it like Trump wants to do.
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 09:44 PM
Don't put guns in teachers hands unless you want them to kill students who gang bully them as my boy ATG properly points out
Tho not sure how he got there from xaankas good point that our internal protective services seriously flubbed
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 09:47 PM
these are all perfectly rational things to say in general and i agree with you one hunnit on that whole post but with this specific shooting there really are a lot of other issues that have been exposed that are being ignored in the public's dialogue because of everyone's immense desire to make the focus about guns.
*daps rarity*
That is something people lose sight of during these mass shooting incidents. Mass shootings remain unicorn rare, all things considered with regard to our population, our schools, and our number of guns.
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 09:49 PM
I think the fbi could be better. Who killed JFK? Wasn't it the fbi? Aliens
Cia
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 09:50 PM
Tho not sure how he got there from xaankas good point that our internal protective services seriously flubbed
Not reading the thread and making presumptions works wonders
AzzarTheGod
02-23-2018, 09:56 PM
if you wanna get real spook USSS held a training exercise at the school 6 days before the shooting check out my boy Nehlen's facebook he's been sticking to the pulse on this 1
digging the double entendres
skarlorn
02-23-2018, 09:56 PM
Not reading the thread and making presumptions works wonders
Ballin dude glad to have u back
720degree no scope shitpost
Xaanka in fine format today nice work tranny pal
I have nothing to add except words like shid and fard
Ahldagor
02-23-2018, 10:45 PM
Lol actually yes first time in some years. Very perceptive. IRL that was mentioned to me as well. Probably be another week to right itself
Luck to you ol' chap. It's a tough virus this year. H1N1 is back in the mix too.
JurisDictum
02-23-2018, 10:52 PM
Only total queers break-down and cry about how gay they are.
Ahldagor
02-23-2018, 10:58 PM
MC Chris < Rose McGowan.
Coverage will, inherently, not be the same.
Patriam1066
02-23-2018, 11:57 PM
Ballin dude glad to have u back
720degree no scope shitpost
Xaanka in fine format today nice work tranny pal
I have nothing to add except words like shid and fard
Haha lol'ed at the shitpost part
I like new Azzar as well. He's dunking planking no scoping and 720'ing on everyone lately
skarlorn
02-24-2018, 12:50 AM
Only total queers break-down and cry about how gay they are.
:D
Teppler
02-24-2018, 02:48 PM
^ all those companies are owned by hardcore socialists like mark zuckerberg
like without exception every single one of them
I would support new laws and regulations to social media giants. It’s clear a lot of them are being used as anti American vehicles.
skarlorn
02-24-2018, 03:51 PM
muh free speech
Ahldagor
02-24-2018, 04:11 PM
Xanks, FB owns Instagram. Only a handful of owners in social media since FB can buy out any potential competition.
Grimjaw
02-24-2018, 07:30 PM
This video is being censored and shadow banned across various communities. I wonder why...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM
Geomance22
02-24-2018, 07:31 PM
bezos will be worth 200 billion by the end of the year just himself, late stage capitalism WILL become feudalism
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 08:00 PM
This video is being censored and shadow banned across various communities. I wonder why...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM
Oh boy Xaanks you were on to something.
Yeeeesh these are kids recording videos DURING the shooting discussing gun control politics while the shooter is at large.
Does anyone on this forum deny that crisis actors exist after this video?
State your case and be heard. Stop failing to process it just because you agree with the gun control agenda.
Mblake81
02-24-2018, 08:39 PM
Oh boy Xaanks you were on to something.
Yeeeesh these are kids recording videos DURING the shooting discussing gun control politics while the shooter is at large.
Does anyone on this forum deny that crisis actors exist after this video?
State your case and be heard. Stop failing to process it just because you agree with the gun control agenda.
@ 1 minute in..
getting a miriam weeks vibe off that chic.
https://i.imgur.com/NC6toro.jpg
Jarnauga
02-24-2018, 08:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lUwtAS0.jpg
:D
skarlorn
02-24-2018, 09:11 PM
g1
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 09:28 PM
g1
respectfully disagree. saw that 1 several days ago on another forum. no late pass = str8 ass.
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 09:30 PM
@ 1 minute in..
getting a miriam weeks vibe off that chic.
https://i.imgur.com/NC6toro.jpg
isnt it interesting that the Sheriff of the county is an observant Jew?
just saying...how many Jewish sheriffs in charge of an entire police force are there? Not many I'm guessing.
also while this isn't 100% accurate or vetted, its pretty enticing and offers some explanation. very corrupted police force with multiple apparatus involved in the corruption.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 09:36 PM
note many of the crisis actors seem to just be Jewish kids from the local temple in Florida who are more than happy to lie to goy who they consider less than human. the temple throughout history has always been a members only club. they owe you nothing.
Kind of transparent when they are all sharing a common ethnic background.
Patriam1066
02-24-2018, 09:52 PM
Why do unemployeds in France comment on American politics? You have no jobs, Moroccans sex your women, and your president is married to Skeletor
Hope this helps
Ahldagor
02-24-2018, 10:29 PM
Azzar, I know you're sick and all, but what kid would know how to "properly" deal with a situation like that? They capitalised on their situation like any decent American. Outright gun ban will fail due to the 2nd amendment, so don't fall into the the NRA spin-double-speak. You're better than that (insert Qui-Gon Jinn face).
Ahldagor
02-24-2018, 10:32 PM
Besides, the state of Florida already said that pornography was the cause.
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 10:58 PM
Azzar, I know you're sick and all, but what kid would know how to "properly" deal with a situation like that? They capitalised on their situation like any decent American. Outright gun ban will fail due to the 2nd amendment, so don't fall into the the NRA spin-double-speak. You're better than that (insert Qui-Gon Jinn face).
I'll grant u it's a prevalent topic of discussion in the public domain and could be very well brought up in that situation given how politicized everything is these days esp in light of the 2016 election. Very possible
I'm not blind to the possibility. It fails to explain why it's allegedly being removed from the usual hosting websites however
Grimjaw
02-24-2018, 11:03 PM
try posting that vid on reddit and see if ur post appears on "new"
edit: also david seaman amon others were bannned from YT yesterday for discussing hogg (not that specific video tho), check his channel - gone.
AzzarTheGod
02-24-2018, 11:05 PM
any evidence for this claim? no? just crazies claiming censorship for the umpteenth time?
*daps soros*
That's up to grimjaw to explain
Grimjaw
02-24-2018, 11:14 PM
it was enough to have the Streisand affect on me and make me share it
Grimjaw
02-25-2018, 07:05 PM
doesnt matter. next ur gonna tell me the CNN town hall event wasnt scripted. One chick read the wrong question and the host said "you dont have to answer that, it is for our next guest". Also multiple kids rejecting the event due to scripted questions (one was the military student who saved other students, using rolls of kevlar that were provided by the NRA - gotta love the irony leftists). Then CNN instantly flip-flopped like they usually do from "we need to believe these survirors!" to "these survivors are lying!". Open your eyes. The great awakening is happening regardless if you're on board. start doing your own research it helps a lot to be able to think critically for yourself instead of being spoon-fed every bit of info. you need to be able to separate reason & logic from your feelings. emotions have nothing to do with this. and lay off the soy. (it's one of the many things causing people to put their feelings ahead of logic & reason).
CNN Town Hall - "You dont have to answer that" - vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLh74eXTDo&feature=youtu.be&t=50m40s) (around 50:40)
CNN previous debate scripted question - img (https://i.redd.it/07winr1ne4i01.png) | vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bapp45Vx0UE&feature=youtu.be&t=50m43s) (around 50:43)
First student claiming scripted questions - vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSkog0rHjM)
Boward Sherrif attacking NRA even though now its discovered that they hid behind their cars in the parking lot the entire time the while shooting was going on. - pic (https://i.imgur.com/eUcFb3U.jpg)
Patriam1066
02-25-2018, 07:32 PM
You watch CNN
Cuck
Grimjaw
02-25-2018, 07:40 PM
Second student claiming scripted questions (the one that saved other kids) - archived page (https://archive.fo/dsA3H)
CNN calling him a liar - tweet (https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/966664545908461569)
Student claiming officer just stood there doing nothing (this was right before the other 3 showed up and joined him in standing around doing nothing) - vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1TDNO0VZ8)
https://i.imgur.com/XM2vY52.jpg
AzzarTheGod
02-25-2018, 07:44 PM
doesnt matter. next ur gonna tell me the CNN town hall event wasnt scripted. One chick read the wrong question and the host said "you dont have to answer that, it is for our next guest". Also multiple kids rejecting the event due to scripted questions (one was the military student who saved other students, using rolls of kevlar that were provided by the NRA - gotta love the irony leftists). Then CNN instantly flip-flopped like they usually do from "we need to believe these survirors!" to "these survivors are lying!". Open your eyes. The great awakening is happening regardless if you're on board. start doing your own research it helps a lot to be able to think critically for yourself instead of being spoon-fed every bit of info. you need to be able to separate reason & logic from your feelings. emotions have nothing to do with this. and lay off the soy. (it's one of the many things causing people to put their feelings ahead of logic & reason).
CNN Town Hall - "You dont have to answer that" - vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLh74eXTDo&feature=youtu.be&t=50m40s) (around 50:40)
CNN previous debate scripted question - img (https://i.redd.it/07winr1ne4i01.png) | vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bapp45Vx0UE&feature=youtu.be&t=50m43s) (around 50:43)
First student claiming scripted questions - vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSkog0rHjM)
Boward Sherrif attacking NRA even though now its discovered that they hid behind their cars in the parking lot the entire time the while shooting was going on. - pic (https://i.imgur.com/eUcFb3U.jpg)
something is definitely going on with the lobbying effort. The sheriff seems to be a part of that effort.
I'd want all their finances and affiliations made public. We have enough probable cause to suspect that there is a gun control conspiracy involving the Broward Sheriff, who happens to be an observant Jew.
Most of the crisis actor students (not all of them) come from FBI backgrounds with some of them having 2 FBI parents. Again, I want finances, communications, and affiliations made public. Otherwise anything they say is a fork tongued lie.
AzzarTheGod
02-25-2018, 07:46 PM
Second student claiming scripted questions (the one that saved other kids) - archived page (https://archive.fo/dsA3H)
CNN calling him a liar - tweet (https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/966664545908461569)
CNN might just kill that kid. Wish I was kidding but the leap from DNC to Seth Rich to CNN is just a stones throw away.
I legitimately fear for that kids life and well-being. You don't fuck with the Deep State left.
AzzarTheGod
02-25-2018, 08:48 PM
god i hope they dont kill that peckerhead dipshit kid and shoot him with a gun
JurisDictum
02-26-2018, 11:18 AM
It is funny that only in the case of Russians influencing an election is the power of advertising acknowledged by the capitalist-liners.
JurisDictum
02-26-2018, 12:19 PM
idk everyone says i'm hardline muh capitalism but i'm really not
capitalism is good in the USA right now. it forces meritocracy. which isn't necessarily the best way to do things, but it's better than the alternative. in our current vibrant multi racial paradise it serves well.
socialism and shit like that can work in a society where everyone is productive and has a desire to contribute to their community. or at least the overwhelming majority. this can be accomplished, historically in ethnically homogenous regions like the magical world of Gothiscandzaland. in those cases at a time it served those people well and obviously created a good society. socialism has failed every time it's been tried in a multicultural society. it's destined to play out in failure whenever you have both a significant and growing population of people who do not have a sense of community and oneness. muh nationalism muh country and civic values doesn't fill that void alone. in a real world example, hispanics still identify as hispanics. we have mexican appointed and elected officials apparently including judges in mexican nationalist groups, in our country. people keep their culture and loyalty often stays home.
i see nothing wrong with commie shit, in an ethnostate. in the USA 2018? laughable. socialism in 'murica = sending the white and yellow man's money to the neverending brown hoardes & sea of degenerates as they breed you into nothingness. in a homogenous community its inhabitants want to be a part of and feel included in? yeah it's not bad to reinvest in yourself.
I think that was true. Than robots and globalism took most the jobs. The reminder are being squeezed by Harvard business graduates trying to prove their worth their 200K+ salary to the company by pinching pennies.
Now its a probably a good idea to establish a bit of socialism and get rid of these ridiculous "means-tested" programs that do nothing but create white resentment and employ a ton of otherwise useless bureaucrats. What I'm saying is, everyone should get medicaid and foodstamps not just the super-poor. And we save a lot of money not trying to play Colombo on who's gaming the system.
You bring up a good point that massive migration is not compatible with socialism...but we are in the process of forcing the gates closed on the Republican side -- I think you'll be surprised how reluctant anyone new in the democratic party will be to ever tamper with immigration again. It's on them. Trump has proven you can be a Republican and whether the "racist" accusation quite easily if people like what your saying.
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 02:45 PM
it's why i criticize the system for being utopian; yeah in a better world socialism's dope. we aren't in 1. it wont make it 1.
This is why socialists secretly think anyone who disagree's with them is flawed and immoral.
They use that to justify eradication of those people.
The problem is, they dont realize that hitler's system would work too if we let him eradicate people.
JurisDictum
02-26-2018, 03:16 PM
This is why socialists secretly think anyone who disagree's with them is flawed and immoral.
They use that to justify eradication of those people.
The problem is, they dont realize that hitler's system would work too if we let him eradicate people.
Fucking Hitler got his country defeated and divided in half (partially by the communists!)
Good leaders don't lead their countries into 2 front wars and get conquered...the terms I believe were "unconditional surrender"
"your not just going to kill us all right?"
The best shit Hitler did for Germany
"maybe"
that kind of unconditional surrender.
the few good things everyone talks about...all socialist policies.
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 03:21 PM
Fucking Hitler got his country defeated and divided in half (partially by the communists!)
Good leaders don't lead their countries into 2 front wars and get conquered...the terms I believe were "unconditional surrender"
"your not just going to kill us all right?"
The best shit Hitler did for Germany
"maybe"
that kind of unconditional surrender.
the few good things everyone talks about...all socialist policies.
this post reads like you are triggered so hard you suddenly became a raving homeless person.
JurisDictum
02-26-2018, 03:23 PM
The problem with basing a country on ethnocentrism is ethnicity is not entirely static. It changes and divides and sub-divides. Ethnic identities need to be maintenanced with propaganda and myths..
So this famed stability of the ethnostate is actually a historical relic before brown people had nationalism and the internet. Ethnicity is just as unstable a boundary as any. The second we get rid of one problem group they just invite another...and faction arise out of which groups are problem groups and how problem groups can be dealt with etc....
Maybe giving everyone healthcare just makes things more equal -- regardless of who's white or not. Maybe that's why things are more equal in Scandinavia.
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 05:41 PM
the redpill is that you can have socialist policies and they work great in a place with a shared, productive culture. so like Scandinavia.
when you have whole swaths of your population going out of their way to be permanent wards of the state.. lol
As much as I'm loathe to agree with anything you say, this is probably true. I think Iranian culture is preferable to mitt romney's 47%'ers and Iran is a shit hole with a fundamentalist 25-30% population
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 05:42 PM
The problem with basing a country on ethnocentrism is ethnicity is not entirely static. It changes and divides and sub-divides. Ethnic identities need to be maintenanced with propaganda and myths..
So this famed stability of the ethnostate is actually a historical relic before brown people had nationalism and the internet. Ethnicity is just as unstable a boundary as any. The second we get rid of one problem group they just invite another...and faction arise out of which groups are problem groups and how problem groups can be dealt with etc....
Maybe giving everyone healthcare just makes things more equal -- regardless of who's white or not. Maybe that's why things are more equal in Scandinavia.
Not true man, look at the theories of how blue eyes were selected for artificially. Dudes liked knowing who their kids were
Back when men were men, they'd do anything for theirs and do anything to crush yours. I guess I'm a relic because I feel the same way. I'd happily put earth to the sword for my daughter. Y'all would happily let your daughters marry Haitians
Not true man, look at the theories of how blue eyes were selected for artificially. Dudes liked knowing who their kids were
Back when men were men, they'd do anything for theirs and do anything to crush yours. I guess I'm a relic because I feel the same way. I'd happily put earth to the sword for my daughter. Y'all would happily let your daughters marry Haitians
Man I can't imagine having a daughter. That protectiveness is gonna cause you a lot of grief.
The first time my wife introduced me to her parents, my batter was running down her thigh. And I'm way worse than a Haitian... I play everquest emulators. But we both have blond hair and blue eyes so I guess that makes us superior?
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 05:55 PM
Man I can't imagine having a daughter. That protectiveness is gonna cause you a lot of grief.
The first time my wife introduced me to her parents, my batter was running down her thigh. And I'm way worse than a Haitian... I play everquest emulators. But we both have blond hair and blue eyes so I guess that makes us superior?
Welcome back lune
Yes
Also my daughter is my main source of pride and joy. My sons are OK but she's an unbelievable person. Gonna get her to run for office at some point
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 06:29 PM
I strongly believe that some people are more masculine than other people becuse of genetics, some women are more masculine than some men etc.
I strongly believe that the liberal idiology of social justice requires the removile of masculinity from society.
Hence, liberals will eventually pull a hitler unless they change their idiology.
Will they change their ideology before they turn into Hitlers? Most likely, liberals are after all, humanists...
But does that make them sound fucking retarded when they say masculinity is a societal problem?
Definitely. Especially because they SCREAM IT AT YOUR FACE.
Lastly why do we have the second amendment? In case liberals do not change their ideology and try to start rounding up masculine people by shaming people into silence as they start taking over politics and they become the dominant voice and power.
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 06:32 PM
Welcome back lune
Yes
Also my daughter is my main source of pride and joy. My sons are OK but she's an unbelievable person. Gonna get her to run for office at some point
oh hey yea, welcome back lune.
AzzarTheGod
02-26-2018, 07:14 PM
lune been back he just posts every 2-3 weeks and u guys typically ignore him now u wanna act like ur his pal. very transparent.
maskedmelon
02-26-2018, 07:20 PM
premium people probably practice pride, prudence, PLUS pragmatism.
maskedmelon
02-26-2018, 07:27 PM
lune been back he just posts every 2-3 weeks and u guys typically ignore him now u wanna act like ur his pal. very transparent.
yaw, he came first upon us with a bird and too a bern in bush to our thread.
lune been back he just posts every 2-3 weeks and u guys typically ignore him now u wanna act like ur his pal. very transparent.
I've been busy with my new life, but I never stopped lurking. Lune will always be here
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 08:24 PM
lune been back he just posts every 2-3 weeks and u guys typically ignore him now u wanna act like ur his pal. very transparent.
lololol
I JUST WANT MORE EUGENICS POSTS and I also want that same guy to post pro liberal agenda.
So I can prove my point that
LIBERALS are actually the nazi's and the liberal agenda is not possible without removal of certain geenpools.
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 08:30 PM
I've been busy with my new life, but I never stopped lurking. Lune will always be here
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 08:50 PM
Xaanka has no penis but all the ZOG puppets got dicKKKed in those last 3 posts
God bless
mickmoranis
02-26-2018, 09:10 PM
Serious question for the liberals, if Trump is a fascist Nazi then why are you giving him all your guns?
Patriam1066
02-26-2018, 09:26 PM
Lol
"My pen is mighty
Would you like to swordfight?"
AzzarTheGod
02-26-2018, 11:25 PM
you guys ever take your dog for a walk and all he wants to do is sniff and bark at noises, & intending a tight 20 you get there like an hour later?
He's just enjoying life a lot more than we are capable of doing
skarlorn
02-26-2018, 11:29 PM
you guys ever take your dog for a walk and all he wants to do is sniff and bark at noises, & intending a tight 20 you get there like an hour later?
Dude sometimes I'm like yo Dawg don't u wanna walk lmao idiot and she just sniffs the piss grass and gives me the eye
AzzarTheGod
02-26-2018, 11:36 PM
its so funny he unironically thinks the governmental system that ended feudalism, realized the industrial era globally, and put a man on the moon is an untested radical crazy thing
and mass immigration melting pot zogwashed status quo of degeneracy we have today isn't a much more radical departure into the unknown.
we know what happens in white countries. they're good places. that's why everyone wants to live in one and not in zimbabwe.
redpill: hong kong was more economically impoverished than most of africa as recently as the 70's
lmao at the dumbcocks were bringing in too
As patriam said they are very ugly people with low intellect and aspirations. We've got a poor genetic pool as it is because of hypergamy (no good looking tall women had any reason to leave Europe for the new world, the worst possible genes would come over here because low social standing and low prospects in Europe during the late 1600's) we certainly don't need any more dumbcocks stinking up the joint
AzzarTheGod
02-26-2018, 11:38 PM
go away dumbcocks
Mblake81
02-27-2018, 12:44 AM
Is that pic from The Outsiders?
It was fast and the furious without the gayness.
No fluff story of a driver, his mechanic and a chic as they go around hitting people up for races. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IZPYYDuHXg)
The 55 chevy in this film is what inspired Finnegan's Blasphemi (https://youtu.be/ls04sDCJ5x8?t=23m1s)
maskedmelon
02-27-2018, 08:35 AM
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?
Serious question for the liberals, if Trump is a fascist Nazi then why are you giving him all your guns?
some pretty big questions left unanswered.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 10:25 AM
lmao at the dumbcocks were bringing in too
As patriam said they are very ugly people with low intellect and aspirations. We've got a poor genetic pool as it is because of hypergamy (no good looking tall women had any reason to leave Europe for the new world, the worst possible genes would come over here because low social standing and low prospects in Europe during the late 1600's) we certainly don't need any more dumbcocks stinking up the joint
You're ignoring all those that came to America from England for business opportunity and religious fanaticism. Not to mention the hordes of Irish, Germans, Polish, Italians, Africans etc. ever since.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 11:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4QnkrVQ.png
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 12:33 PM
I'm not giving my guns back but I still need clarification on why a 19 year old not in the military or police needs a semi-automatic rifle
Possible answer is "to hunt" but Florida genetic mistakes like ass hole in parkland clearly didn't hunt. Any animal would see those ears coming miles away
Raavak
02-27-2018, 01:30 PM
self-defense
rifle league
collection
All my rifles are semi-auto. I don't own a bolt action or single shot (except my Civil War muzzle loader which doesn't really count). I'm not 19, but I had 1 of them when I was (Ruger 10/22)
Jaxon
02-27-2018, 01:36 PM
I'm not giving my guns back but I still need clarification on why a 19 year old not in the military or police needs a semi-automatic rifle
Possible answer is "to hunt" but Florida genetic mistakes like ass hole in parkland clearly didn't hunt. Any animal would see those ears coming miles away
To defend themselves at home and to kill tyrants and their supporters and families.
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 02:28 PM
Semi-automatic rifle is an interesting choice for home defense
Plenty of tyrants around not getting shot by rednecks. I guess we just have to live with churches concerts and schools getting lit up
Raavak
02-27-2018, 02:32 PM
I can use any method at my disposal to protect myself. My choice because I am free. As it should be. I know my own situation best and can make my own decision. I don't have to live under some uninformed person's rules.
United States has always had guns. School shootings are new. Its people that have changed, not guns. Guns are an easy excuse, and removing them historically doesn't fix anything. Think harder.
Raavak
02-27-2018, 02:35 PM
Australia has been studied to death. Its a long and very complex situation and both sides can use data from there to support their own adgendas.
Raavak
02-27-2018, 02:41 PM
Australian crime was in a nose-dive long before the gun collection. Statistically the collection and crime is not correlated in this case.
Raavak
02-27-2018, 02:47 PM
I encourage more talking of gun confiscation. It only makes the generally silent red parts of this map hate the blue parts that much more.
https://i.imgur.com/0o3wks3.jpg
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 02:47 PM
I'm not asking for a ban here. Age 25
Perfectly reasonable dudes l2compromise
Jaxon
02-27-2018, 02:49 PM
A semi-auto rifle like an AR-15 is commonly available weapon that is highly configurable, affordable, and effective. If you have an AR-15 in your home, that home is very well-defended.
We don't have any tyrants in the US now, but if we did the solution would be to kill them(or their much more vulnerable supporters and their families). Semi-auto rifles, widely distributed among the population, are again the most effective weapon available for doing that and banning them would increase the probability of the rise of a tyrannical government.
No one wants to see schools shot up and at the same time no one wants to see the government murder its citizens wholesale. It's worth exploring policies that allow you to protect against both.
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 02:52 PM
We have plenty of tyrants in the US. NRA, AIPAC, Lockheed, Goldman Sachs to name a few
Again, not asking for a ban. 18 year olds are dumb as shit. I hope y'all can acknowledge that
Jaxon
02-27-2018, 03:02 PM
We have plenty of tyrants in the US. NRA, AIPAC, Lockheed, Goldman Sachs to name a few
Again, not asking for a ban. 18 year olds are dumb as shit. I hope y'all can acknowledge that
The commonly accepted definition of tyrant is an cruel and oppressive ruler. You're redefining it to include political organizations, a weapons manufacturer and an investment banker that are neither cruel nor oppressive, and while they have influence the cannot be said to rule our government. What is your argument here, that we should shoot them?
Yes 18 year olds are dumb but they are adults and have just as much right to be secure in their person as 19 year olds and 50 year olds. Are you proposing that 18 year olds receive heightened scrutiny when they go to purchase a weapon?
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 03:02 PM
Again, not asking for a ban. 18 year olds are dumb as shit. I hope y'all can acknowledge that
look. I get it. You want to be part of this country.
But sorry, your ideas have been laughed at for years and would stop exactly 0% of mass shootings and are just a new law that bring us one step closer to dicatatorship.
Funny how your family fled from a dictatorship and now you support incramental change of america into the same failed country you are from.
heres a test (for anyone here to try) to find out if you are a complete retard:
1. do you think that minor tweaks in gun laws will stop mass shootings?
yes? = retard
no lol! = not retard
end of test
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 03:07 PM
Yes, raising the age to legally purchase a firearm to 25 is exactly the same as proposing the Islamic Republic of America
I guess I'm the retard between the two of us
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:07 PM
Our country is built on the idea that we have the right to rebel against tyrannical government. We had to do it once before and it would be the height of hypocrisy to say future American's shouldn't have that ability and freedom.
The founding fathers came from the french enlightenment type thinking. They put the 2nd amendment in because the nature of the beast that is government is to support and make government bigger, not necessarily serve the people.
The public having guns is a check and balance on the government. Without it the government steam rolls the public.
And that should be very scary considering what is happening in western europe where natural populations are being replaced and they don't have free speech laws.
Good example- during WW2 nazi's were able to go door to door, round up Jews and walk them right into death camps. They were able to do this because Germany was disarmed. You better believe things would of went differently if they had guns.
If you're an American and you hate guns you should think about moving to a new country because our identity on a very base level is built through the right to own guns.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:09 PM
A semi-auto rifle like an AR-15 is commonly available weapon that is highly configurable, affordable, and effective. If you have an AR-15 in your home, that home is very well-defended.
We don't have any tyrants in the US now, but if we did the solution would be to kill them(or their much more vulnerable supporters and their families). Semi-auto rifles, widely distributed among the population, are again the most effective weapon available for doing that and banning them would increase the probability of the rise of a tyrannical government.
No one wants to see schools shot up and at the same time no one wants to see the government murder its citizens wholesale. It's worth exploring policies that allow you to protect against both.
How many people need to die before you agree to give up your rights and freedoms?
The correct answer is always.... everyone.
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 03:14 PM
in ww2, america went around and rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in concentration camps. Things would have been different if they had had guns!
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 03:19 PM
Uh so I own a ranch live in Texas hunt and own guns
I'm not sure what y'all are talking about. TRUMP 2020, very proud of him doing the right thing and trying to raise the gun age to 21. It took balls to stand up to ignorant morons with more insulin than brains
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 03:20 PM
-a loyal American who regularly promotes Jesus Christ
Hope this helps
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:20 PM
in ww2, america went around and rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in concentration camps. Things would have been different if they had had guns!
Maybe you should try looking into the differences in the two situations.
Jaxon
02-27-2018, 03:23 PM
Yes, raising the age to legally purchase a firearm to 25 is exactly the same as proposing the Islamic Republic of America
I guess I'm the retard between the two of us
No one said it's exactly the same as proposing the Islamic Republic of America.
If you want to raise the age to legally purchase a firearm to 25 you have to look at the trade offs. On one hand you add a little bit of friction to anyone under the age of 25 who is looking to buy a firearm with the goal of shooting up a school, making it less likely to occur and making a 17-year old senior in that high school a little less likely to get shot during class. On the other hand, once that 17-year old student graduates, turns 18, and begins living on her own, you restrict her access to firearms that she would use to defend herself against home invasion, rape, and murder, making it more likely that she die.
Until you quantify these factors and can demonstrate that a net good comes from raising the age you don't really have the basis to say that your policy proposal would be preferable to what currently exists.
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 03:25 PM
I think gun purchasing age of 21 is a great idea. Hail Trump.
My only question is can a Father train his guns with the use of armed weapons on their private hunting ranch still?
There would need to be allowance for use of guns under supervision in certain settings IMO
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 03:26 PM
No one said it's exactly the same as proposing the Islamic Republic of America.
If you want to raise the age to legally purchase a firearm to 25 you have to look at the trade offs. On one hand you add a little bit of friction to anyone under the age of 25 who is looking to buy a firearm with the goal of shooting up a school, making it less likely to occur and making a 17-year old senior in that high school a little less likely to get shot during class. On the other hand, once that 17-year old student graduates, turns 18, and begins living on her own, you restrict her access to firearms that she would use to defend herself against home invasion, rape, and murder, making it more likely that she die.
Until you quantify these factors and can demonstrate that a net good comes from raising the age you don't really have the basis to say that your policy proposal would be preferable to what currently exists.
Oh my bad women can purchase at 18
Go back 10-20 pages my ban is only on males I left that part out this time whoops. Also, mick is accusing me of wanting to turn America into the Islamic republic. Kinda weird since if I had a time machine id decapitate Muhammad
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 03:29 PM
>don't really believe mass murder happens on children in schools
>think they would stand a chance against American military b/c they overweight men have AR-15s
>buys into the packaged illusion of freedom
>wants to see evidence that restricting gun access will benefit America, before letting gun restriction laws be implemented in america, but refuse to consider evidence from other nations
people in this thread who are unwilling to see change
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:32 PM
the ship sailed on that a long time ago bud. you're just meat to Sparkle.
Na that's just you being a liberal and having no values or identity.
It's why you guys chop your genitals and pump hormones into your body so freely too despite how destructive and unhealthy it is.
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 03:32 PM
Oh my bad women can purchase at 18
This is hilarious. And brilliant. If there was to be a Revolution, it would be started by women and they should definitely have access to guns. No man is going to risk his family and his nice comfy life under the American Regime. It's women who will drive us to righteous, violent action.
Men just get high on delusions of violent resistance b/c they watch TV and movies. Too bad if you're like this you're probably (Fat) (soft) and (weak).
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 03:34 PM
spoiler: if u think u NEED an ar-15 you have bought into the propaganda of arms-dealers who maintain vast fortunes putting weapons in the hands of americans, to use on americans
nice!!!
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:35 PM
>don't really believe mass murder happens on children in schools
>think they would stand a chance against American military b/c they overweight men have AR-15s
>buys into the packaged illusion of freedom
>wants to see evidence that restricting gun access will benefit America, before letting gun restriction laws be implemented in america, but refuse to consider evidence from other nations
people in this thread who are unwilling to see change
You sound like a piece of shit and a scum bag.
Which of those gun control nations live on the border of a nation overrun with cartels?
Which of those gun control nations were built on rebelling against a tyrannical government with gun?
How many of those gun control nations have freedom of speech?
Which of those gun control nations are leading the free world?
Do you hate America's identity and our creation story?
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 03:36 PM
Yes, raising the age to legally purchase a firearm to 25 is exactly the same as proposing the Islamic Republic of America
I guess I'm the retard between the two of us
You are not able to understand the English that i used in my post, because you are from a foreign country I assume, but Ill try to clear it up so you can understand.
no mass shooter to this date would be hindered by that law. It would have not changed or hindered their ability in anyway to perform the mass shootings.
in fact there has never been a mass shooting in this country that the person who obtained their gun, would have been precluded from obtaining those guns in the exact same way if that was a law.
So yes, you are a retard if you think that is a good new law to add to the books because you think it will help reduce mass shootings.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:37 PM
This is hilarious. And brilliant. If there was to be a Revolution, it would be started by women and they should definitely have access to guns. No man is going to risk his family and his nice comfy life under the American Regime. It's women who will drive us to righteous, violent action.
Men just get high on delusions of violent resistance b/c they watch TV and movies. Too bad if you're like this you're probably (Fat) (soft) and (weak).
You aren't rooted in reality. Look at all the hard jobs that have been done throughout history. All the wars. Anything that has to do with violence. Then notice the gender distribution.
Jaxon
02-27-2018, 03:50 PM
>don't really believe mass murder happens on children in schools
>think they would stand a chance against American military b/c they overweight men have AR-15s
>buys into the packaged illusion of freedom
>wants to see evidence that restricting gun access will benefit America, before letting gun restriction laws be implemented in america, but refuse to consider evidence from other nations
people in this thread who are unwilling to see change
* No one in this thread thinks that school shootings don't happen.
* Going head to head against the military is absurd because the disparity in force is so large. Their families, however, are more vulnerable and killing them would be just as effective. No one is going to want to fight for and support a tyrant if it means their parents, kids, and wife will die a violent death at the hands of an overweight man with an AR-15.
* I don't even know what this means.
* The evidence has been considered and is inconclusive because you can use the same evidence to make compelling arguments for either side. At the same time the US is unique among nations and those differences in our history and culture means that solutions that work for other countries may not necessarily work here.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 03:52 PM
WAKEUP CALL:
dear liberals, second amendment supporters are not afraid of the full force of the American government descending down upon us in some sort of civil war.
The second amendment is designed to protect us from this type of threat:
1. liberals are being radicalized, you are pro antifa and getting more and more violent
2. liberals HATE the right and have already started beliving that if there was NO right, then they would have utopia
3. Liberals continue this assnine fascist thought process over the course of 10 or 20 years
4. liberals elect more people that seem to have a blood oath to their agenda
ITS TIME TO START SHOOTING
and the group the SA patriots are shooting at, are a subset of the goverment and by no means have access to THE FULL FORCE OF THE AMERICAN MILITAR
infact in this scenario about half or more of the military have split, and are using the FULL FORCE OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY on eachother, not just ar-15 owners.
The ar-15's just clean up the civilians and lesser organized version of the military the leftist nazi gastapo is using to destroy the american way of life.
So please, wake the fuck up when you libtards try to act like an ar-15 wont stop a drone.
IF WE ARE USING AR-15's TO FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT THEN THERE WILL BE NO DRONES WE'RE TALKING A FUCKING FULL SCALE FAILURE OF AMERICA WOULD HAPPEN FIRST
Wake up call #2: THE LEFT THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING
you are wrong, you do NOT know more about the gun issue than the right.
ALSO if you are the kind of idiot that think there is such thing as common sense gun control that will stop mass shootings, then you're a cunt and an idiot.
REMEMBER WACO they kept the full force of the american military at bay for 90 days
remember Ruby Ridge ONE MAN kept the full force of the american military at bay for 11 days until he finally surrendered.
WE NEED AR-15's to protect our way of life and if you disagree you are JUST A GOOSE STEPPING LIBERAL NAZI AND WE HAVE YOU IN OUR SIGHTS
Teppler
02-27-2018, 03:56 PM
WAKEUP CALL:
dear liberals, second amendment supporters are not afraid of the full force of the American government descending down upon us in some sort of civil war.
The second amendment is designed to protect us from this type of threat:
1. liberals are being radicalized, you are pro antifa and getting more and more violent
2. liberals HATE the right and have already started beliving that if there was NO right, then they would have utopia
3. Liberals continue this assnine fascist thought process over the course of 10 or 20 years
4. liberals elect more people that seem to have a blood oath to their agenda
ITS TIME TO START SHOOTING
and the group the SA patriots are shooting at, are a subset of the goverment and by no means have access to THE FULL FORCE OF THE AMERICAN MILITAR
infact in this scenario about half or more of the military have split, and are using the FULL FORCE OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY on eachother, not just ar-15 owners.
The ar-15's just clean up the civilians and lesser organized version of the military the leftist nazi gastapo is using to destroy the american way of life.
So please, wake the fuck up when you libtards try to act like an ar-15 wont stop a drone.
IF WE ARE USING AR-15's TO FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT THEN THERE WILL BE NO DRONES WE'RE TALKING A FUCKING FULL SCALE FAILURE OF AMERICA WOULD HAPPEN FIRST
Wake up call #2: THE LEFT THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING
you are wrong, you do NOT know more about the gun issue than the right.
ALSO if you are the kind of idiot that think there is such thing as common sense gun control that will stop mass shootings, then you're a cunt and an idiot.
REMEMBER WACO they kept the full force of the american military at bay for 90 days
remember Ruby Ridge ONE MAN kept the full force of the american military at bay for 11 days until he finally surrendered.
WE NEED AR-15's to protect our way of life and if you disagree you are JUST A GOOSE STEPPING LIBERAL NAZI AND WE HAVE YOU IN OUR SIGHTS
Well just for the record I'm scared of a highly establishment liberal government coming into office and completely disregarding the will of the people.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 04:00 PM
Well just for the record I'm scared of a highly establishment liberal government coming into office and completely disregarding the will of the people.
you should be, they are anti american communists that literally hate anyone who doesnt agree with their idiology and that idiology is specific to personal intersts and taste.
You cannot be a masculine, self starter, self reliant person and live in their system, they're system does not allow for it. It is required that you behave the way they want you to behave.
They would outlaw cars and force everyone to ride the bus if they could. If you wanted to drive your own car well then sorry, you have to do it their way if you disagree then you dont get to have a voice. If you try to force your voice upon other people then you could be criminally charged.
The left are off the rails.
Ahldagor
02-27-2018, 04:22 PM
2nd amendment means guns aren't getting an outright ban, so drop the speculation of a ban unless an amendment is proposed to be added to the constitution that would ban guns (good luck). Sensical compromise like an increase in age requirement based on mental development (drinking age law is a model) isn't a bad idea to try. You could also argue for a restriction on the types of guns available to the public. If something happens, it will have loop holes in the lanuage. So much slippery slope going on at the moment.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 04:34 PM
2nd amendment means guns aren't getting an outright ban, so drop the speculation of a ban unless an amendment is proposed to be added to the constitution that would ban guns (good luck). Sensical compromise like an increase in age requirement based on mental development (drinking age law is a model) isn't a bad idea to try. You could also argue for a restriction on the types of guns available to the public. If something happens, it will have loop holes in the lanuage. So much slippery slope going on at the moment.
look another libtard who thinks they know more about gun laws
NEXT
(ps you're wrong about everything)
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 04:35 PM
DEAR LIBTARDS
homicide rate went from an average of 1.8 in australia (pre gun ban) to 1.6 (now)
Over the course of 30 years.
FYI in that same time period it has dropped in America by more than 3 times that much.
Banning guns did not reduce murders by any measurable mark whatsoever.
yet please continue tell us why it works in Australia and that gun nuts are brainwashed.
When we banned assault rifles in 86 it did not reduce gun deaths, it did however reduce the type of gun that the same number of gun deaths was perpetrated by.
Yet tell me more about how making one type of gun unavailable makes less people get killed.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 04:38 PM
Man, people believe some really stupid shit just because a handful of dead white guys thought it was a good idea over 300 years ago.
Look...Who ever decided they support gun right because of what Jefferson said really? Sure plenty of people say that this is about fundamental freedoms, founding fathers, blah blah blah...But they would have no problems supporting extreme gun ownership rights even if these guys never breathed a word about it...its not like everyone thought it was a great idea or particularly important...some more than others and it was compromise like the rest of the constitution (which is imperfect and constantly reinterpreted and sometimes officially modified...it remains untested in a few areas).
BTW -- they gave everyone in Russia a gun...they had guns in Germany -- none of this gun shit ever once stopped a tyrannical government except maybe China.....right before Mao and his tyrannical government took over.
The gun owners will be the most ardent supporters of a fascist government if we ever should elect one.
My argument against the idea that guns help defend against government tryanny is Shay's Rebellion 1787 -- probably the first time the 2nd amendment failed to fullfill its stated purpose.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 04:42 PM
"I don't mind that people get killed, I just want them to be killed by something other than this thing that for some reason authoritarian regimes want to remove right before they take every other right away from the citizenry"
-A. Liberal
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 04:45 PM
Man, people believe some really stupid shit just because a handful of dead white guys thought it was a good idea over 300 years ago.
Look...Who ever decided they support gun right because of what Jefferson said really? Sure plenty of people say that this is about fundamental freedoms, founding fathers, blah blah blah...But they would have no problems supporting extreme gun ownership rights even if these guys never breathed a word about it...its not like everyone thought it was a great idea or particularly important...some more than others and it was compromise like the rest of the constitution (which is imperfect and constantly reinterpreted and sometimes officially modified...it remains untested in a few areas).
BTW -- they gave everyone in Russia a gun...they had guns in Germany -- none of this gun shit ever once stopped a tyrannical government except maybe China.....right before Mao and his tyrannical government took over.
The gun owners will be the most ardent supporters of a fascist government if we ever should elect one.
Once you get rid of those rights, they do not come back. And you just dont understand it at all and YES guns will protect americans one day from a hostile regime.
Becuse
1. you will never take them away
2. hostile regime will not have the full force of the military at their control, you would know this if libtards knew ANYTHING about the American military or reality
3. liberals will eventually force their ideology on the American citizens and we will kill you all with ar-15s and it will be hilarious.
4. your gay little children will thank us and be our slaves.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 04:51 PM
Not surprisingly, the announcement effectively making Xi a life-time dictator received overwhelmingly positive responses inside China. Many praised the move as providing China with the kind of stability that is lacking in western democracies. The seeming chaos in Western democracies, such as with Britain’s unexpected decision to leave the European Union, the rise of an extreme right and left, and the uncertainty that comes with it made many in China uncomfortable. Many nationalists in China, including Xi himself, also believe that the chaos in the west opens up a strategic opportunity for China’s return to its historical place — the sole dominating world power. And they believe Xi is the right person to deliver it.
But were still talking about if making a 25 age limit constitutes tyranny as our country slowly slips to 2nd place.
I mean shit, do they even send people in the army to fight any serious battles before 25? My understanding is you have to work up to that shit by carrying around boxes and standing around 5 years...
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 04:53 PM
2nd amendment means guns aren't getting an outright ban, so drop the speculation of a ban unless an amendment is proposed to be added to the constitution that would ban guns (good luck). Sensical compromise like an increase in age requirement based on mental development (drinking age law is a model) isn't a bad idea to try. You could also argue for a restriction on the types of guns available to the public. If something happens, it will have loop holes in the lanuage. So much slippery slope going on at the moment.
Amen
Also, saw back pew at HEB. Bought blue testament, the IPA, and satyrs swill
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 05:07 PM
Genetic defects with bigger ears than dumbo shouldn't be able to purchase firearms at 19. That guy is so ugly he was guaranteed to take out his sexual frustration violently. At least by 25 he might've learned an alternative strategy for attracting females
Idk though, he is a fascinatingly hideous mother fucker. Very proud of my full blooded Aryan attractiveness
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 05:10 PM
Everyone in this thread is racist dude that isn't an argument. I'm probably the only minority with internet in the US and my homeland literally translates to "land of the Aryans"
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 05:36 PM
i thought the problem was ze jews?
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 05:36 PM
But were still talking about if making a 25 age limit constitutes tyranny as our country slowly slips to 2nd place.
I mean shit, do they even send people in the army to fight any serious battles before 25? My understanding is you have to work up to that shit by carrying around boxes and standing around 5 years...
The thing is that this will do nothing, you will not reduce gun deaths with, so its a dumb law and you are dumb if you support it.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 06:12 PM
Man, people believe some really stupid shit just because a handful of dead white guys thought it was a good idea over 300 years ago.
Look...Who ever decided they support gun right because of what Jefferson said really? Sure plenty of people say that this is about fundamental freedoms, founding fathers, blah blah blah...But they would have no problems supporting extreme gun ownership rights even if these guys never breathed a word about it...its not like everyone thought it was a great idea or particularly important...some more than others and it was compromise like the rest of the constitution (which is imperfect and constantly reinterpreted and sometimes officially modified...it remains untested in a few areas).
BTW -- they gave everyone in Russia a gun...they had guns in Germany -- none of this gun shit ever once stopped a tyrannical government except maybe China.....right before Mao and his tyrannical government took over.
The gun owners will be the most ardent supporters of a fascist government if we ever should elect one.
My argument against the idea that guns help defend against government tryanny is Shay's Rebellion 1787 -- probably the first time the 2nd amendment failed to fullfill its stated purpose.
You know whats amazing about philosophy. You can read their works and great philosophers logic and ideas hold up no matter what era you are in.
It's the height of arrogance to disregard the build up of what went into the development of political structure since the beginning of time. Our founding fathers took this into consideration and put safe guards in the form in inalienable rights and freedoms against tyrannical governments.
I pointed it out and someone else mentioned it to. When ever governments take away guns it's always accompanied by that nation not having things such as freedom of speech.
Either we are going to live in a free society where you are capable of defending yourself or we are going to have daddy government protect us and tell us what to say and think.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:13 PM
china isn't gonna pass up the west it's a bubble go over there and see it for yourself speculative real estate isn't gonna support them forever
like im all for how chinas pulled themselves out of shithole status 100% but yeah you're basically just saying the same thing everyone did about japan in the 80s.
automation is around the corner and the chimerica paradigm will be the absolute first casualty. i believe china will keep with the times and remain as a world leader but it will be rough for a while for sure.
ppl already saying the same thing about india. superpower 2020!
Yea because land is such an unstable shaky investment that never retains its value. More like a building development bubble at most. It's not even going to be that.
The Japan 80s thing was a shallow media craze no one with any shred of seriousness took the bait on...it existed mostly in Hollywood egged on by car-producing areas like Detroit who hated Japanese competition.
India is a joke because its a democracy that is also poor and riddled with ethnic divides...its going no where. It's only significant because its going to be pumping coal into the air and providing business opportunities for the elites in the west/china...notice how they worked their way unto the list more and more.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 06:13 PM
Once you get rid of those rights, they do not come back. And you just dont understand it at all and YES guns will protect americans one day from a hostile regime.
Becuse
1. you will never take them away
2. hostile regime will not have the full force of the military at their control, you would know this if libtards knew ANYTHING about the American military or reality
3. liberals will eventually force their ideology on the American citizens and we will kill you all with ar-15s and it will be hilarious.
4. your gay little children will thank us and be our slaves.
One day..... I'm horrified for when the next establishment liberal comes into office.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:20 PM
You know whats amazing about philosophy. You can read their works and great philosophers logic and ideas hold up no matter what era you are in.
It's the height of arrogance to disregard the build up of what went into the development of political structure since the beginning of time. Our founding fathers took this into consideration and put safe guards in the form in inalienable rights and freedoms against tyrannical governments.
I pointed it out and someone else mentioned it to. When ever governments take away guns it's always accompanied by that nation not having things such as freedom of speech.
See, you arguing that some abstract idea (that guns make society more free*) is true. But you don't any actual evidence that is true. I offered actual historical cases of societies where the right of citizens to bare arms was implemented...in those societies...those same citizens participated in the tyrannical governments their supposed to defend against.
During Shay's rebellion, when a bunch of cowardly landlords stole property of U.S. Militia men that were fighting for the country -- the elites (like dear founding fathers) sided with the landlords of course, and used the central government to butcher those that rebelled with guns....this is how it always goes down which is why arming the population with small weapons never will or has defended against a tyrannical government.
The idea that the founding fathers possess any kind of timeless wisdom and that we should defer to them -- is a child-like argument. Who cares? They were there -- they were right some of the time wrong other times. There's little evidence they are why American won World War II and thus inherited super-power status...
It's like talking to people that actually believed high school history class (in the 80s/90s) and never delved deeper. Every empire is full of myths that aren't true. The founding fathers myths are our version of that.
Edit: here is what our founding fathers couldn't have really understood in their time....we were colonized people. And colonized people are better off armed when they rebel. Guns are useful to overthrow colonization...to this day that is true...they have never been useful fighting the natively-elected/legitimate government...just a foreign government.
*free from our own government's tyranny is how it is pitched exactly.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:30 PM
The philosopher John Locke also wrote reports on how to deal with the children of the poor: ‘The children of the labouring people are an ordinary burthen to the parish and are usually maintained in idleness, so that their labour also is lost to the public till they are 12 or 14 years old.’ The conclusion drawn by Locke (left) was that poor children should be put to work at three years old with a bellyful of bread daily, supplemented in cold weather by ‘a little warm water-gruel’.
Locke also argued that we all have natural born rights....but we forfit those rights when enslaved...so you don't have to worry about blacks or profiting off of slavery (like Locke was profiting off slavery).
It's almost as if he was a rich white prick writing a book for other rich white pricks about why aristocrats were worse than businessmen...and then threw in a bunch of flowery philosophical language....
that's actually exactly what he did.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 06:33 PM
See, you arguing that some abstract idea (that guns make society more free*) is true. But you don't any actual evidence that is true. I offered actual historical cases of societies where the right of citizens to bare arms was implemented...in those societies...those same citizens participated in the tyrannical governments their supposed to defend against.
During Shay's rebellion, when a bunch of cowardly landlords stole property of U.S. Militia men that were fighting for the country -- the elites (like dear founding fathers) sided with the landlords of course, and used the central government to butcher those that rebelled with guns....this is how it always goes down which is why arming the population with small weapons never will or has defended against a tyrannical government.
The idea that the founding fathers possess any kind of timeless wisdom and that we should defer to them -- is a child-like argument. Who cares? They were there -- they were right some of the time wrong other times. There's little evidence they are why American won World War II and thus inherited super-power status...
It's like talking to people that actually believed high school history class (in the 80s/90s) and never delved deeper. Every empire is full of myths that aren't true. The founding fathers myths are our version of that.
Edit: here is what our founding fathers couldn't have really understood in their time....we were colonized people. And colonized people are better off armed when they rebel. Guns are useful to overthrow colonization...to this day that is true...they have never been useful fighting the natively-elected/legitimate government...just a foreign government.
*free from our own government's tyranny is how it is pitched exactly.
LOL it's not an abstract idea.
One case you have the freedom to protect and defend yourself. The other case you don't.
What happens when a bully knows a mark is valuable, weak and defenseless?
There's a very clear relationship here that is fact.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 06:38 PM
See, you arguing that some abstract idea (that guns make society more free*) is true. But you don't any actual evidence that is true. I offered actual historical cases of societies where the right of citizens to bare arms was implemented...in those societies...those same citizens participated in the tyrannical governments their supposed to defend against.
libtards like to compare savage countries that are not even remotly westernized and then compare them to our countries and use that like some sort of argument.
The savages you speak about have drastically less gun ownership among middle class working people than america, ever, has had, in the history of america.
The savages you speak about are savages.
Your arguments are specious, they are pathetic, and like all libtard arguments about this subject are lacking substance and actual thought.
At no point have you even made one point, that is remotely true.
Canadians used guns to become free. America used guns to become free. Australia used guns to become free.
There is no western civilization that cannot thank guns, and the freedom they gave their citiziens, for making free countries a thing.
Guns are what made you even eligible to have an opinion on them.
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 06:39 PM
The philosopher John Locke also wrote reports on how to deal with the children of the poor: ‘The children of the labouring people are an ordinary burthen to the parish and are usually maintained in idleness, so that their labour also is lost to the public till they are 12 or 14 years old.’ The conclusion drawn by Locke (left) was that poor children should be put to work at three years old with a bellyful of bread daily, supplemented in cold weather by ‘a little warm water-gruel’.
I would use the children of the poor as a food source
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:42 PM
Well as Mick points out, none of my examples work because they are Russian and Chinese savages that are genetically inferior and thus -- guns work different for them than us.
Either that or Mick full of shit and people that like guns like getting on their soap box about defending against tyrannical governments -- but really they just want to shoot the shit out of some cans and make fun of liberals.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 06:42 PM
Locke also argued that we all have natural born rights....but we forfit those rights when enslaved...so you don't have to worry about blacks or profiting off of slavery (like Locke was profiting off slavery).
It's almost as if he was a rich white prick writing a book for other rich white pricks about why aristocrats were worse than businessmen...and then threw in a bunch of flowery philosophical language....
that's actually exactly what he did.
You're a liberal right? You want socialized medicine. Why aren't you paying other people's medical bills already then?
Ahldagor
02-27-2018, 06:46 PM
lucky charms and Jameson?
Somebody had to bring Swift in on how to utilize children.
Ahldagor
02-27-2018, 06:47 PM
Amen
Also, saw back pew at HEB. Bought blue testament, the IPA, and satyrs swill
Alpreciate the buys. Wbatxs on the bottom of the cans? We put quotes and memorials (RIP Angus Young as an example).
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 06:48 PM
Somebody had to bring Swift in on how to utilize children.
He "suggested" Irish catholic children as food. That's not the group I'd be taking out of circulation
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:50 PM
You're a liberal right? You want socialized medicine. Why aren't you paying other people's medical bills already then?
Most people that willingly identify as liberal these days are big-city high income types that think racism and the environment are the two most important issues in the world. Bill Gates and Warren buffet are liberals...
Socialists are different because they say they want to help working people they actually mean it...the environment and the race stuff is the bullshit part for them (very few of them actually think about either a lot).
In many ways, Socialists and Liberals are enemies.
I think that on a macro-level socialized medicine has been proven (it's not really something you can honestly debate) to provide the same quality of healthcare for a lower overall price to the country. As Chase, Buffet, and Bezo's admit "It's a hungry tapeworm on the American Economy"
Socialized medicine is my least radical idea...But its too radical for corporate Democrats that are essentially Republicans that care about race and the environment.
I'll let you figure out why I'm not paying everyone medical bills. Seems kind of like a non-sequitur to me.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 06:53 PM
Most people that willingly identify as liberal these days are big-city high income types that think racism and the environment are the two most important issues in the world. Bill Gates and Warren buffet are liberals...
Socialist is different because they say they want to help working people they actually mean it...the environment and the race stuff is the bullshit part for them very few of them actually about.
In many ways, Socialists and Liberals are enemies.
I think that on a macro-level socialized medicine has been proven (it's not really something you can honestly debate) to provide the same quality of healthcare for a lower overall price to the country. As Chase, Buffet, and Bezo's admit "It's a hungry tapeworm on the American Economy"
Socialized medicine is my least radical idea...
I'll let you figure out why I'm not paying everyone medical bills. Seems kind of like a non-sequitur to me.
It's the same logic you are using against Locke for having slaves.
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 06:55 PM
It's the same logic you are using against Locke for having slaves.
Locke argued that it was perfectly moral to have slaves because they have no rights after surrendering in battle (dubious claim that all slaves surrendered in battle right there).
What does that have to do with the argument that Socialized medicine is better for the host country than a (mostly) capitalist healthcare system?
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 07:23 PM
Well as Mick points out, none of my examples work because they are Russian and Chinese savages that are genetically inferior and thus -- guns work different for them than us.
Either that or Mick full of shit and people that like guns like getting on their soap box about defending against tyrannical governments -- but really they just want to shoot the shit out of some cans and make fun of liberals.
russia and china to date have never had the armed citizenry that America has ever had
let alone has had Melania of subjugation and conformity in their culture. SO WHAT a surprise they have not had an uprising.
Seriously Russians and Chinese citizens are dehumanized broken people.
You see this is why liberals are so dumb, you look at everything paint deep.
Teppler
02-27-2018, 07:33 PM
Locke argued that it was perfectly moral to have slaves because they have no rights after surrendering in battle (dubious claim that all slaves surrendered in battle right there).
What does that have to do with the argument that Socialized medicine is better for the host country than a (mostly) capitalist healthcare system?
Because you aren't practicing what you preach either.
Also how many illegal immigrants and refugees do you have sleeping in your house/apartment?
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 07:34 PM
Russia has never had uprisings
Heard it here first folks
AzzarTheGod
02-27-2018, 07:43 PM
You're ignoring all those that came to America from England for business opportunity and religious fanaticism. Not to mention the hordes of Irish, Germans, Polish, Italians, Africans etc. ever since.
lets raid boss on em boys its planking time
hypothesis JURIS DOCTORATE "Women are involved in business opportunities in the New World in the 17th century"
hypergamy also doesn't involve traveling to a nonexistent economy
Try again
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 08:13 PM
Because you aren't practicing what you preach either.
Also how many illegal immigrants and refugees do you have sleeping in your house/apartment?
I never said anything about everyone doing everything they can to help illegal aliens (I'm not even really pro-immigration) or helping others getting healthcare. What I'm saying is that our current system of providing healthcare is not actually working well -- is costing the taxpayer and the customer a lot more than other systems -- and should be changed.
Now -- if you think its up to insurance companies (because they have a government protected right to dictate our healthcare via lobbying) ...that's fine. I'm the guy trying to get people to vote against insurance compaines...and you can be the guy siding with insurance industry propaganda and spout out a bunch 80's platitudes about earning your way in life.
Your side won the policy arguments for a long time....but reality is catching up to them and making them all look like the corrupt politicians and capitalist shills they are. So we are on track to replace this stupid system...
JurisDictum
02-27-2018, 08:19 PM
Russia has never had uprisings
Heard it here first folks
America has had uprisings...their all stomped out. And any group of gun toters resisting the government will be stomped out in the future.
mickmoranis
02-27-2018, 08:27 PM
America has had uprisings...their all stomped out. And any group of gun toters resisting the government will be stomped out in the future.
in the next civil war the good guys are going to be the confederates
skarlorn
02-27-2018, 08:37 PM
Where abouts is your private ranch patriam? My family's is way south in the chapparelle near Mexico among the oil fields and Tejano dirt farmers.
AzzarTheGod
02-27-2018, 08:39 PM
we raid bossin i cant speak on ranches without doxing myself but got family ties to some big boys in TX skarlorn may have grown up on familial property.
maskedmelon
02-27-2018, 09:08 PM
guns should not be b& or restricted because it will only defer the inevitable, leading to increased workplace violence. not every office has a big 5' 10" Brown Aryan Shepherd keeping' his flock. it's gonna be fort hood every month. Instead of dealing with a handful of dead youth, we are going to end up with more fatherless homes. the increased r selection among the resulting gender-confused youth are going to lead to fewer and fewer alpha dongs to stand up to the guns. those we have will too busy banging the discontent out of the women we force into the offices to fill the roles of the ballooning population of impotent men under the guise of liberation. meanwhile, China will continue flexing their HUGE (small) penises, talking out both sides of their mouths while sneakily fucking everyone around them in broad daylight. in the end, the last of our alphas, fat and his rewired brain numb to the harem of strong independent women about him, will will be shot in his $800 computer chair by a 25yo ftm celebrating his coming of age with the release he'd sought for the last 7 years, but had been reluctant to procure a firearm since he'd been prohibited by law.
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 10:24 PM
North of seguin which is a town out in Czech/German country on i-10 between Houston and San Antonio. It isn't really a "ranch" other than I let the neighbor keep 12 head of cattle on it so I get the tax deduction and he gets the cows. I use it to shoot guns and kill deer but yeah, I'm a commie cuck gun control advocate according to this crew
It's a peaceful area and the Czech food is good. Also the shiner brewery is only like 45 minutes away so if I'm out that way for a week I'll go get shit faced one day on kosmos
Ahldagor
02-27-2018, 10:29 PM
North of seguin which is a town out in Czech/German country on i-10 between Houston and San Antonio. It isn't really a "ranch" other than I let the neighbor keep 12 head of cattle on it so I get the tax deduction and he gets the cows. I use it to shoot guns and kill deer but yeah, I'm a commie cuck gun control advocate according to this crew
It's a peaceful area and the Czech food is good. Also the shiner brewery is only like 45 minutes away so if I'm out that way for a week I'll go get shit faced one day on kosmos
Out in Flatonia?
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 10:42 PM
Flatonia is 20 minutes from the ranch across I-10
Patriam1066
02-27-2018, 10:43 PM
Chilispiel or whatever is held there
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