******Official politics thread ******

[mickmoranis]

Its the circle of life my bro

http://i.imgur.com/VjosQtU.jpg

[Pokesan]

Its the circle of life my bro

http://i.imgur.com/VjosQtU.jpg

suffer fools gladly

[mickmoranis]

So on a serious(russian) note.. is it wise now to invest in Exxon since they stand to make a ton of money in the next 4 years? Or is it like a Gorden Gecho scenario..

what say you?

[pathius41]

Aside from a couple of you, how does this game attract such a large percentage of crack heads?

[Ahldagor]

Russia, largest oil producer, top lel moranic post.

[maerilith]

Russia, largest oil producer, top lel moranic post.

Sad to say mickmoranis was my father, top male role model. Tried to beat me into being a man.

Failed miserably. As God says it is in heaven as it is on earth, the macro is mirrored by the mundane.

People like him are going to make Merica a tranny paradise.

[maerilith]

Man winning over nature (alternative fact version)
https://i.imgur.com/DFOPMzO.gif
https://imgur.com/gallery/61n6Y

Who the fuck needs a bridge when we have men like this?!

[mickmoranis]

Russia, largest oil producer, top lel moranic post.

look it up idiot Rosneft is literally the worlds largest oil company dumb ass liberal

[maerilith]

look it up idiot Rosneft is literally the worlds largest oil company dumb ass liberal

Which alternative facts are we using to define large? Mass? Efficiency? Pollution? Corruption? Barrels per Capita? Refining only? or the whole supply chain?

ROFLMAO

[maerilith]

Is this picture funny? Yes or No?

https://i.imgur.com/s6BiVD7.jpg

[mickmoranis]

Aside from a couple of you, how does this game attract such a large percentage of crack heads?

your playing a game people play in prison boy

[mickmoranis]

pipelines back UP!

cant wait to find out the TRUE ending to custards last stand...

[Sidelle]

You're delusional. The man has zero honor or integrity and I do not have to take "his word (or lack of admitting guilt)" over the word of 20 others, including people he had intimate relationships with. Sworn in under oath.

Seems a bit fishy to me.... Especially in light of other recent events and lies.
What strikes me as "delusional" is your pathetic & dishonest attempts at convincing people President Trump is a rapist & a monster with ZERO EVIDENCE, while ignoring 100% FACTUAL PROOF of Hillary Clinton's long list of crimes; not only against the American people, but globally as a bona fide war criminal & shameless exploiter of suffering Haitians... And this is only the shit we know about so far!

Free your mind of it's comfortable delusions right here: The Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks (so far) (http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/)

Did it really escape your notice that her campaign insiders were caught in subsequent leaked emails going into 'cover-up mode' trying to stop the bleeding? I thought it was very damning evidence that inadvertently confirmed the authenticity of the leaks & proved Hillary & Obama are both liars & criminals.

Brace yourselves, snowflakes. I have a feeling we haven't even heard the worst of it yet about the crimes of Mr. & Mrs. Clinton that is finally bringing down the Clinton Foundation... And speaking of that... I would be delighted if p99's Hillary supporters would respond to this post with their top 3 reasons they voted for Hillary in spite of all the lies & corruption exposed by WikiLeaks. I'm genuinely curious & would LOVE to hear from you. Lol. ;)

http://i.imgur.com/rfCbg8J.jpg

[maerilith]

^^ High, methed out, brainwashed, white christian retarded baby machine :D

Nice, keep sucking Trumps dick, it'll make ur rape survival that much more real.

[bigjerry]

What strikes me as "delusional" is your pathetic & dishonest attempts at convincing people President Trump is a rapist & a monster with ZERO EVIDENCE, while ignoring 100% FACTUAL PROOF of Hillary Clinton's long list of crimes; not only against the American people, but globally as a bona fide war criminal & shameless exploiter of suffering Haitians... And this is only the shit we know about so far!

Free your mind of it's comfortable delusions right here: The Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks (so far) (http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/)

Did it really escape your notice that her campaign insiders were caught in subsequent leaked emails going into 'cover-up mode' trying to stop the bleeding? I thought it was very damning evidence that inadvertently confirmed the authenticity of the leaks & proved Hillary & Obama are both liars & criminals.

Brace yourselves, snowflakes. I have a feeling we haven't even heard the worst of it yet about the crimes of Mr. & Mrs. Clinton that is finally bringing down the Clinton Foundation... And speaking of that... I would be delighted if p99's Hillary supporters would respond to this post with their top 3 reasons they voted for Hillary in spite of all the lies & corruption exposed by WikiLeaks. I'm genuinely curious & would LOVE to hear from you. Lol. ;)

http://i.imgur.com/rfCbg8J.jpg

my girl goin hard this morning one love

[maerilith]

http://i.imgur.com/3EaeTh2h.gif

As a survivor of long term domestic violence. Lol. This is fucking on the money. Her deadeyes gif when Trump turns away is priceless.

Why does Trump have to keep buying women from Putin?

Let's just wait a little longer and see! He doesn't mean it! He's doing it for her own good!

Well we'll see. Gonna dig up some good stuff later.

[maerilith]

tfw you dont realize melania was a successful model with her own money before she met trump and end up looking like a shining beacon of feminist sexism


also pras Sidelle bringin the dunks

You mean she let Trump grab her pussy backstage and she didn't want to be deported to Siberia. So she opted to marry Putin's pal. The offer she couldn't refuse.

[bigjerry]

the funny thing is maerilith would literally let me grab her by the boipussi no questions asked but still swallows this shit like a sticky load

[Sidelle]

Nice, keep sucking Trumps dick, it'll make ur rape survival that much more real.
Are you sure you still want to be a woman? You seem to genuinely NOT have an iota of respect for womankind judging by your responses to me referring to rape & dicksucking. Though I believe you would fit right in to the "white male patriarchy" that so-called feminists are constantly moaning about.

[maerilith]

Are you sure you still want to be a woman? You seem to genuinely NOT have an iota of respect for womankind judging by your responses to me referring to rape & dicksucking. Though I believe you would fit right in to the "white male patriarchy" that so-called feminists are constantly moaning about.

If you where a woman with an ounce of integrity you wouldn't blindly support a fucking abusive white male. You're no one. You're a fucking scumbag.

Has nothing to do with your gender. You just lack any morality and ethics and free will as an individual.

[maerilith]

IHas zero to do with that, but the could have some respect and compassion for the 20 or so women who spoke up against Trump. And the other survivors of rape and violence and abuse publicly denouncing Trump.

I've seen at least 10 separate instances where vulnerable people basically said fuck it. I'm done with people who value fake political crap over values and integrity.

Your willing to totally fuck everyone over who's ever had to deal with this shit.

You had other options than Hillary and Trump. Hillary isn't an excuse to ignore Trumps actions and words. Or the very real and personally communicated suffering of millions of Americans you should be able to emphasize with, but don't care to, because you do not care about anyone but yourself.

[maerilith]

IHas zero to do with that, but the could have some respect and compassion for the 20 or so women who spoke up against Trump. And the other survivors of rape and violence and abuse publicly denouncing Trump.

I've seen at least 10 separate instances where vulnerable people basically said fuck it. I'm done with people who value fake political crap over values and integrity.

Your willing to totally fuck everyone over who's ever had to deal with this shit.

You had other options than Hillary and Trump. Hillary isn't an excuse to ignore Trumps actions and words. Or the very real and personally communicated suffering of millions of Americans you should be able to emphasize with, but don't care to, because you do not care about anyone but yourself.

[maerilith]

You could have some respect and compassion for the 20 or so credible, professional, women who spoke up publicly and at great risk against Trump. And the other survivors of rape and violence and abuse publicly denouncing Trump.

I've seen at least 10 separate instances where vulnerable people basically said fuck it. I'm done with people who value fake political crap over values and integrity.

You're willing to totally fuck everyone over who's ever had to deal with this shit.

You had other options than Hillary and Trump. Hillary isn't an excuse to ignore Trumps actions and words. Or the very real and personally communicated suffering of millions of Americans you should be able to emphasize with, but don't care to, because you do not care about anyone but yourself.

Blood is on your hands. And Trumps. You've sealed the deal with Satan.

[bigjerry]

you must not think very highly of women if you believe that all women have to be identical in every way. makes me wonder why you want to be a woman so bad. if women are so oppressed, why the fuck would you want to be one? there must be...

some sort of..

benefit to being a woman

http://i.imgur.com/6CFGp4S.gif

[maerilith]

http://i.imgur.com/6CFGp4S.gif

Denying shits fucked up doesn't = respecting people.

Calling people on their B.S. and Trumps B.S. doesn't mean anything other than just that.

Women can believe what they want. That's not going to stop someone from calling bullshit.

You could have some respect and compassion for the 20 or so credible, professional, women who spoke up publicly and at great risk against Trump. And the other survivors of rape and violence and abuse publicly denouncing Trump.

I've seen at least 10 separate instances where vulnerable people basically said fuck it. I'm done with people who value fake political crap over values and integrity.

You're willing to totally fuck everyone over who's ever had to deal with this shit.

You had other options than Hillary and Trump. Hillary isn't an excuse to ignore Trumps actions and words. Or the very real and personally communicated suffering of millions of Americans you should be able to emphasize with, but don't care to, because you do not care about anyone but yourself.

Blood is on your hands. And Trumps. You've sealed the deal with Satan.

Can't deny the overwhelming body of factual evidence.

[mickmoranis]

the fact that the left is more upset about womans rights during a trump administration just goes to show how stupid

a. women are
b. democrats are

[mmmroo]

Trump has yet to prove he is any different, but he did get on the right foot by taking the U.S. out of the TPP, horrible trade deal. Without the U.S. in it it's dead really lol.

But him starting the pipeline up in Dakota again is a bad thing.

Still i think Trump is going to be the lesser of the two evils compared to Clinton who would have streamlined ww3 with Russia.

[Swish]

Anything that helps the US economy is a good thing at this point. Obama took the piss with the national debt during his two terms... if the US can return corporations to source American workers instead of Indian/etc alternatives I think that would be a very positive step.

How about making them pay their taxes as well? Would like to see if he'll do anything about that.

[Lune]

Anything that helps the US economy is a good thing at this point. Obama took the piss with the national debt during his two terms... if the US can return corporations to source American workers instead of Indian/etc alternatives I think that would be a very positive step.

How about making them pay their taxes as well? Would like to see if he'll do anything about that.

Those jobs are not coming back. If they do come back, they will be automated.

One thing I totally support Trump on is his pledge to protect certain solidly middle class professions (nursing and physical therapy for example) from the importation of hordes of nurses from the Philippines. We'll see how that pans out though when the special interests make the establishment Republicans who hold the reins an offer they can't refuse.

[Swish]

You're probably right, and I'm no economist... but I hope its a good 4 years for American workers in terms of lower unemployment (somehow)

[AzzarTheGod]

check the posts per day just now and it says 747 thats crazy man it must have been set inside of genesis like trump electionstay tuned

[entruil]

12 Crazy Laws That Exist In North Korea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHzhfg5TiSQ)

10 Things North Koreans Actually Believe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0emXP2nkY)

[mickmoranis]

check the posts per day just now and it says 747 thats crazy man it must have been set inside of genesis like trump electionstay tuned

Welcome back my good man.

Pick a topic. The day is yours.

[maerilith]

http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/assassination-threats-against-trump-flood-twitter-after-election-shocker/

http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/secret-service-agent-suggests-she-wouldnt-take-bullet-for-trump/

What a shocker!

DENVER – A top U.S. Secret Service agent posted on her Facebook page during the 2016 presidential race that she would not “take a bullet” for the GOP candidate, and eventual winner, Donald Trump.

“But this world has changed and I have changed. And I would take jail time over a bullet or an endorsement for what I believe to be disaster to this country and the strong and amazing women and minorities who reside here,” wrote Kerry O’Grady, the special agent in charge of the agency’s Denver region.

“Hatch Act be damned. I am with Her.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/secret-service-agent-suggests-she-wouldnt-take-bullet-for-trump/#83ygvhUzIUkw3k0C.99

http://i.imgur.com/ZVUygWT.jpg

I'm with her :D

[maerilith]

she'll be fired for breaking her oath.

she's about to get her female privilege checked hard as a motherfucker

/pras her for it

would like to see some guys stand up for whats right too (actually some electoral voters did make a stink, and other guys)

but she's def got balls you don't :D

[mickmoranis]

ppl are asking all over why the woman's march happened... what rights are being infringed upon women in america?

But for the life of me I cant come up with an answer that would make sense if you didnt already support it. Can any of you?

[maerilith]

ppl are asking all over why the woman's march happened... what rights are being infringed upon women in america?

But for the life of me I cant come up with an answer that would make sense if you didnt already support it. Can any of you?

No one needs to answer this, go to the woman march site, read, make your own decision, stop being dumb.

Also, Trump is a bad person, and should be ashamed and so should all of you, and thats also why (but not explicitly so), but women know these things.

[Rader]

No one needs to answer this, go to the woman march site, read, make your own decision, stop being dumb.

Also, Trump is a bad person, and should be ashamed and so should all of you, and thats also why (but not explicitly so), but women know these things.

If women have it so bad, why do you want to become one?

[Patriam1066]

Women do have it bad (in 99% of the cultures that liberals defend, like most African or Muslim societies)

OOPs thought crime

[mickmoranis]

No one needs to answer this

cus you cant.

[maerilith]

If women have it so bad, why do you want to become one?

Would it blow your mind if I told you I was transsexual, not transgender, and that being a woman isn't about benefits or stereotypes?

[Rader]

Men die at a younger age than women. Does that mean the system is rigged against males?

[bigjerry]

transsexual, not transgender

huh?

[mickmoranis]

Women do have it bad (in 99% of the cultures that liberals defend, like most African or Muslim societies)

OOPs thought crime

lol you mean when liberals wear this sweater to protest the tarsands pipelines?

http://i.imgur.com/I8pT7v7.jpg

Libs are 100% social. They have NO interst in actual politics or the economy.

They think canada is some wonderful paradise and want to LEAVE america becuse of our HORRIBLE PIPELINES

so they run from their problems, up to wonderful justin's liberal canada... where they are DIGGING UP THE OIL TO USE THE PIPELINES FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE

[mickmoranis]

Would it blow your mind if I told you I was transsexual, not transgender, and that being a woman isn't about benefits or stereotypes?

Would it blow our minds that you think you are 1 of 11 genders?

No. It wouldnt blow our minds.

[maerilith]

Men die at a younger age than women. Does that mean the system is rigged against males?

It means they are dumb and prone to more dangerous behavior :D

Also big macs.

Woman are self conscious, have better self care.

Though of course theres plenty gross on both sides, and the lines blurr as gender becomes irrelevant. Probably a dumb stat to keep quoting.

[maerilith]

lol you mean when liberals wear this sweater to protest the tarsands pipelines?

http://i.imgur.com/I8pT7v7.jpg

Libs are 100% social. They have NO interst in actual politics or the economy.

They think canada is some wonderful paradise and want to LEAVE america becuse of our HORRIBLE PIPELINES

so they run from their problems, up to wonderful justin's liberal canada... where they are DIGGING UP THE OIL TO USE THE PIPELINES FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE

You have a problem of principles and looking at the issue from only one perspective. One dimensional thinking is terrible.

[Rader]

It means they are dumb and prone to more dangerous behavior :D

Also big macs.

Woman are self conscious, have better self care.

Though of course theres plenty gross on both sides, and the lines blurr as gender becomes irrelevant. Probably a dumb stat to keep quoting.

Fair enough, I am prone to agree with your point. But what is the common stat cited by feminists? Women only make 70 cents to the dollar. If I was to respond as you did above, and say that was because women are stupid... you get where I am going here? Women are a protected class, and that will only continue ever increasingly over the long haul. Trump will only be a slight slowing in that trend, at worst, and he may yet surprise Libturds in what he actually ends up accomplishing

[maerilith]

Fair enough, I am prone to agree with your point. But what is the common stat cited by feminists? Women only make 70 cents to the dollar. If I was to respond as you did above, and say that was because women are stupid... you get where I am going here? Women are a protected class, and that will only continue ever increasingly over the long haul. Trump will only be a slight slowing in that trend, at worst, and he may yet surprise Libturds in what he actually ends up accomplishing

Women have female privilege. Having other women and trannies telling me I need to check my privilege. Is lol...

Guys do too though.

I agree ppl shouldn't be propped up and protected.

How to make it fair / equal? Never protectionism.

We do have problems where even if the laws are equal people still refuse to apply them justly and fairly, or look the other way. This happens to everyone. Women I think feel that despite their privilege they are more dissproprtionatly disadvantaged by cultural norms.

We can fix that without legislation and by education, visibility, meating the standards.

Lots of people in this thread saying women shouldn't be in the military. Lots of things cabinet members propose, senators are proposing favor Christian identity, or want to see women not serve. Or see that people who regardless of sex or gender don't belong in the same positions as traditionally white males. Or have the same authority.

It's as simple as equality meaning equality and the federal government supporting and defending equality within itself. It needs to be done. Too many people in this country are insane. Too many states run ramshod right over minorities just so they can create disillusionment and ignore real social issues that have a profound and important effect.

Globally we can't hide in a shell, or enforce our way on others either...

Human rights are at the core of this, liberty, justice, for all. Regardless of whatever flavor of the month label is in dispute this year.

I've seen politicians claiming that antidiscrimination laws are additional extra rights. This is patently false though. Obama's executive guidelines just ensure that the Fed backs a fair and blind interpretation of rules, regardless of race, religious, sex. People mad about this are being selfish and buying into an idea that they have the right to control other people.

Republicans and conservatives are neither. They are just as guilty as democrats when it comes to communist groupthink. It's why the wizards first rule is "people are stupid".

Lets just dupe every one into thinking doing acting being the same according to " our rules".

Problem being you can't make ppl think or be like you. We can however explicitly include them and respect them under the law. Minimizing oppressive forces and conflict while maximizing freedom and diversity.

Love Trumps hate. Respect builds trust. People who care, care to know.

[mickmoranis]

if you're posting on an elf sim board in the middle of the afternoon

you need to check your fucking privilege

[bigjerry]

Women have female privilege. Having other women and trannies telling me I need to check my privilege. Is lol...

Guys do too though.

I agree ppl shouldn't be propped up and protected.

How to make it fair / equal? Never protectionism.

We do have problems where even if the laws are equal people still refuse to apply them justly and fairly, or look the other way. This happens to everyone. Women I think feel that despite their privilege they are more dissproprtionatly disadvantaged by cultural norms.

We can fix that without legislation and by education, visibility, meating the standards.

Lots of people in this thread saying women shouldn't be in the military. Lots of things cabinet members propose, senators are proposing favor Christian identity, or want to see women not serve. Or see that people who regardless of sex or gender don't belong in the same positions as traditionally white males. Or have the same authority.

It's as simple as equality meaning equality and the federal government supporting and defending equality within itself. It needs to be done. Too many people in this country are insane. Too many states run ramshod right over minorities just so they can create disillusionment and ignore real social issues that have a profound and important effect.

Globally we can't hide in a shell, or enforce our way on others either...

Human rights are at the core of this, liberty, justice, for all. Regardless of whatever flavor of the month label is in dispute this year.

I've seen politicians claiming that antidiscrimination laws are additional extra rights. This is patently false though. Obama's executive guidelines just ensure that the Fed backs a fair and blind interpretation of rules, regardless of race, religious, sex. People mad about this are being selfish and buying into an idea that they have the right to control other people.

yo just cumfirming I did not read

hey how does this pillow smell??

[maerilith]

yo just cumfirming I did not read

hey how does this pillow smell??

Like my yeasty boigina.

I edited, more better, plz update your quotes.

[bigjerry]

I heard Hannity use the term "alt-left" to refer to liberal MSM last night. he said it at least twice. fucking kill me

[Bazia]

the elephant in the room is we are subsidizing way too many useless people who do not posses the IQ's required to contribute and participate in a post-labor society

[maerilith]

the elephant in the room is we are subsidizing way too many useless people who do not posses the IQ's required to contribute and participate in a post-labor society

Yeah...

Drones.

[mickmoranis]

In 10 years if america would start listening where our taxes go and how much of our money goes to which part of the gov instead of just saying state/federal... life would be a lot better for everyone.

[bigjerry]

In 10 years if america would start listening where our taxes go and how much of our money goes to which part of the gov instead of just saying state/federal... life would be a lot better for everyone.

dam that's woke I feel inlightenned

[maerilith]

In 10 years if america would start listening where our taxes go and how much of our money goes to which part of the gov instead of just saying state/federal... life would be a lot better for everyone.

True. Snowden did blow the whistle on the steep NSA budget too.

Also. I don't like being labeled or name called a liberal or a progressive. It pisses me off. I'm libertarian. And I believe in small government with strong military funding.

States do need bombed the fucking fuck out the union though when they racist as fuck.

[Bazia]

Society hasn't robbed them of anything, they are a failure in the evolutionary process.

They did not evolve with the pace of society and are quickly becoming useless.

[maerilith]

Yeah, but it make us feel better about our meaningless lives. It like singing to your imaginary friend once a week or praying to dead people or finishing all the foods on your plate. It all demand relatively negligible effort in exchange for feeling a bit good about ourselves. Society has robbed ordinary people of purpose, for most of whom struggle is prerequisite to happiness.

Interdasting.

All I want to do is swim with a shark.
http://i.imgur.com/jQ4yQkL.gif
And look good (coincidentally be healthy and feeling good)

Also free dolphins. And orca. Wild animals should be free.

[maerilith]

Yeah I agree with most those. Not sure about shark thoughts guess I wouldn't mind whale shark like that. He seem ok and I think they pretty docile, yes?

Very docile.

Mosi Imax had a really cool documentary with Frederic Bulye and William Winram, who tag Great Whites by simply holding their breath and free-diving with the sharks.

http://www.imax.com/movies/great-white-shark

[Bazia]

No, not them. Everyone, or at least most of us.

Not most people, but a significant number on top of the huge amount whose existence we already subsidize completely at untold expense and debt.

[maerilith]

but sharks eat whales :/

And Orca will sometimes eat sharks.

Circle of life.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc

[maerilith]

Not most people, but a significant number on top of the huge amount whose existence we already subsidize completely at untold expense and debt.

In a way though. We subsidy the existence of the 1% and others in our society. Who have wealth because it's given to them.

Lots of people don't earn their keep. Lots of rich people are born into wealth.

We are dumb dumbs propping up ppl in jobs and positions through nepotism or educational requirements that don't really fulfill any roll other than to keep the welfare running through corporate channels.

Think bureaucratic management in the healthcare industry.... Or wal-mart
...

Or Enron....

Or Trump himself! oh snap... That fucker only got money cuz ppl dumb and didn't stop giving him money. The people that did belong in jail with him. He couldn't survive five mins in the wilderness. And the real kicker is he committed fraud multiple times.

Money and economy is terrible sole indicator of value. Can stamp a high price on any piece of shit and sell it. Also our entire corporate / financial society is built around protectionism and popularity.

[bigjerry]

but sharks eat whales :/

lool

check the page number girls

[maerilith]

Penn Jillette on Libertarianism, Taxes, Trump, Clinton and Weed | Best of '16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEwaKL6vWo)

Good vid.

[entruil]

Yeah, this a good point on the upper end. Capitalism does a good job of restricting the damaging effects of the bottom end, but long term exacerbates those of the top end. The horrible system we have now of free markets and social welfare exacerbates both.

are you saying we have free markets right now? or the horrible system of "free markets"?

[bigjerry]

(^O^)／

oh my

im turning white knight fast:o too kawaii

[Bazia]

The bubble will finally burst with self-driving supply trucks, the country and world will never be the same again

[AzzarTheGod]

just checking in im doing a buck 60 with me in the cockpit right now. man i seen the arguments from the last few weeks in thi sthread damn some of yall been keeping it true in 2017 regardless.

maerlith put a bully on (a bullet proof vest for u squares. kinda sick of interpreting the world to squares tbh) cuz u takin shots son lol

how u gon beef w/ all these dawgs like that?? u love it that much

[bigjerry]

just checking in im doing a buck 60 with me in the cockpit right now. man i seen the arguments from the last few weeks in thi sthread damn some of yall been keeping it true in 2017 regardless.

maerlith put a bully on (a bullet proof vest for u squares. kinda sick of interpreting the world to squares tbh) cuz u takin shots son lol

how u gon beef w/ all these dawgs like that? u love it that much

glutton for punishment my edit, she come back to cum to the black u feel me?

[entruil]

what we have is horrible and so too would be wholly free markets. Competition is fantastic and something of a law of nature, but so too is dominance. In a wholly free environment, conditions operating at two or more standard deviations above the mean will necessarily achieve hegemony. The top must be restrained in the interest of society as a matter of pragmatism.

Right on. Restraining monopolies is a trait of free markets I thought... they can't be free if someone controls them from the top.

Add in unlawful welfare and federal reserve manipulation and we get our present Keynesian nightmare.

[maerilith]

what we have is horrible and so too would be wholly free markets. Competition is fantastic and something of a law of nature, but so too is dominance. In a wholly free environment, conditions operating at two or more standard deviations above the mean will necessarily achieve hegemony. The top must be restrained in the interest of society as a matter of pragmatism.

Right on. Restraining monopolies is a trait of free markets I thought... they can't be free if someone controls them from the top.

Add in unlawful welfare and federal reserve manipulation and we get our present Keynesian nightmare.

Yeah. I don't have a really good solution. Pull back and dismantle the mechanism that keeps the rich richer and the poor poor and unwilling and to some degree unable to better themselves.

[bigjerry]

eliminate or severely restrict interest based income

[maerilith]

glutton for punishment my edit, she come back to cum to the black u feel me?

*giggles*

[bigjerry]

ayo hold up

[bigjerry]

i came for the 888

[entruil]

I should read more about stuff like this...


14. Nietzsche on Power, Knowledge and Morality (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALiZkclxdko)
Today we take a bridge into the twentieth century, constructed by Nietzsche, Freud, and Weber's critical theory. Each author is different in important ways, but they also agree on two crucial points: we must subject our consciousness and assumptions to critical scrutiny and, along with increasing liberation and rationalization in some ways, modern society also has repressive elements. Nietzsche is the oldest of these thinkers; he dies in 1900 and stops working a decade before due to mental illness. While he was ill, his sister, a proto-Nazi and associate of Hitler, cared for him. Her control of his papers and how they were released to the public painted him as a proto-Nazi himself, but reading his whole oeuvre illuminates that Nietzsche subjected Judaism and Christianity to the same scrutiny. In The Genealogy of Morals, Nietzsche attempts to use the genealogy method to be critical of modern morality without taking a certain vantage point. We discuss most specifically his genealogy of the ideas of good and bad and of good and evil.

thanks.

[entruil]

eliminate or severely restrict interest based income

if we take a deeper look, maybe eliminating the cost of money isn't such a good idea...


I am much inclined to prefer Austrian Economics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School) as opposed to a socialist no money system (although with the increased automation star trek is confirmed to be the future if humanity is not enslaved).

[R Flair]

http://imgur.com/Hn80dNh.gif

[maerilith]

if we take a deeper look, maybe eliminating the cost of money isn't such a good idea...


I am much inclined to prefer Austrian Economics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School) as opposed to a socialist no money system (although with the increased automation star trek is confirmed to be the future if humanity is not enslaved).

I agree. Individual people need input and feedback from the economy in the form of some metrics around which markets develop in order to organize efficient production?

Essentially markets and currency are necessary for an economy? Economy cannot exist from a purely social / government dictated perspective... Humans don't value that way? Not having individuals provide feedback with money and receive input from others results in corruption?

[bigjerry]

lool theres someone trolling them

oh god there is an unironic redditor with a hand drawn wojak he will not divide us meme for the camera

[Doors]

Mental illness caught on live stream.

[Xaanka]

Lawl no.... omg no.... NODAPL is NOT not a conspiracy...

actually that's all true stuff, there were about 600 something meetings about routing this pipeline and about 50 or 60 that the tribe leaders were invited to attend. it seems like you don't really have any kind of basic understanding of how international zoning is done for these kinds of things.. can you even tell me what authority would be in charge of this stuff? pre-emptive KEK while you google it but i know you don't know this.

the tribe leaders are just as much to blame as our government's response for putting their own people at risk to make a political point.

i think obama handled it like total shit and trump's not really handling it any better but acting like the tribe leaders aren't victimizing their own people by artificially inflating a scenario that could have been avoided by "attend 1 of 60 meetings or maybe send a letter back" serves no one's good except jerk off feel good points for your dumb counter signal-based idealism.

from an environmental perspective it's a no brainer. pipeline is clearly safer than transporting this shit on oil tankers and trucks but hey, out of sight out of mind you feel. also the pipeline plays a major role in a canadian tar cleanup. but the obama admin's silence combined with local gov't and law enforcement's response was pathetic.

[maerilith]

actually that's all true stuff, there were about 600 something meetings about routing this pipeline and about 50 or 60 that the tribe leaders were invited to attend. it seems like you don't really have any kind of basic understanding of how international zoning is done for these kinds of things.. can you even tell me what authority would be in charge of this stuff? pre-emptive KEK while you google it but i know you don't know this.

the tribe leaders are just as much to blame as our government's response for putting their own people at risk to make a political point.

i think obama handled it like total shit and trump's not really handling it any better but acting like the tribe leaders aren't victimizing their own people by artificially inflating a scenario that could have been avoided by "attend 1 of 60 meetings or maybe send a letter back" serves no one's good except jerk off feel good points for your dumb counter signal-based idealism.

from an environmental perspective it's a no brainer. pipeline is clearly safer than transporting this shit on oil tankers and trucks but hey, out of sight out of mind you feel. also the pipeline plays a major role in a canadian tar cleanup. but the obama admin's silence combined with local gov't and law enforcement's response was pathetic.

You sound like a Greenpeace consultant. Nice analysis. Props, accurate from a pro fuck hippies angle. I've been watching the tar sands thing and the protests in Canada, some violent. This is an extension / continuation of that situation since b4 vice went up to Alberta and owned the shitlord mayor.

Needless to say, the pipeline line may indeed be safe / safer. I still think greedy politics is dumb.

I recall fun stuff about a Siberian pipeline that went boom. Lulz compliments of espionage from US. It may be a futile waste lining the pockets of already rich oillords and foreign nationals with some decent kickbacks for politicians at home.

A native American commiserated with me at my psych appointment at the VA after thanksgiving. I didn't bring it up. He did try to cheer me up.

The net result of genius trump letting the pipeline go through there will cement the GOPs negative image and disregard for peer reviewed science in the public hive mind.

A lot of ppl did sacrifice, get hurt at the protests. Risk a lot. I don't think they are kidding themselves though, that is just the place they drew the line and finally decided to make a stand.

Smart of them to pick sacred land. Rather than trying to protest on BLMland like those terrorist Bundy cowboys.

[Xaanka]

A native American commiserated with me at my psych appointment

sums up this thread pretty well

[bigjerry]

so like the election is over u guys can lay off my zeitgeist now

[maerilith]

Being vulnerable is ok BigJ. Being vulnerable is a strength.

. “I now see how owning our story and loving ourselves through that process is the bravest thing that we will ever do.” ~Brene Brown

I was raised to be determined. I was raised to put my head down and solider on during tough times, and I was raised to never be vulnerable, because being so meant you were weak.

Whether these were the intended lessons, it’s hard to say, but somewhere deep inside that is what I interpreted the messages to be from those who had influence in my life.

Throughout most of my life I carried these messages like suits of armor protecting me from invisible opponents, sure to strike when I least expected it.

Each time I unbuckled the armor and exposed my raw tender skin to what I thought vulnerability looked like, it was only a matter of time before I was left broken hearted, disappointed, or worse yet, full of shame and self-hate.

Looking back on memories, I am reminded of a time when I fell madly in love, the type of love where you are brave, do not hold back, and lead with your heart.

Unfortunately, I later discovered that the person I was involved with was leading two lives, and would be on “business trips” while they spent time with me and then the reserve with their other life.

It all came crashing down after they “claimed” a death in the family, and when I called to give my condolences to the family, the supposed deceased family member answered the phone.

The lessons I learned during these perceived attacks left me carrying a heavy imaginary backpack full of reasons as to why I could not be vulnerable.

In my mind, this determination was a brave path to be walked alone and it proved just how independent I was, unlike those who “needed” people in their life.

It’s been a slow evolution from this point, which reached a low five years ago, to now. In fact, sometimes it has seemed so slow that I thought I was inching backward.

With an instinct to push, question, and doubt, buying in to the vulnerability bandwagon has been a tough sell.

Despite reading a plethora of self-help, transition, and any other inspiring books I could get my hands on, it never seemed to make a difference. Something just was not connecting inside of me.

During a personal development course three years ago, the facilitator used an actual full backpack to show me what the weight of my self-defeating story felt like.

He then had a group leader push down on the pack with the goal that I would eventually give in to the weight and to the story in my head that was holding me hostage.

During the demonstration, I could feel the weight of the pack getting heavier, my legs shaking, my stomach muscles twitching with fatigue, and my head pounding from my tenacious spirit fighting desperately to hang on to my story of why vulnerability was bad, I was determined, and I didn’t need anyone.

After what seemed like an eternity, I did give in, and although I wish I could say it was like a light switch and I immediately embraced a new way of viewing and practicing vulnerability, that wasn’t the case.

Over the last three years it has been more of a slow sunrise, and on days when I felt brave and could trust who I was connecting with, I was able to open myself up even for just a moment and let people in.

I always thought it was my strength and determination that inspired people. However, what I have learned over the last five years is that those qualities in fact intimidated and kept people at a distance.

When I felt my weakest—when I could hardly get out of bed and face the challenge of a new day after a relationship had ended or when I was laid off due to a company downsizing—I dug deep and found the courage to ask for help from very supportive friends and my running group teammates.

I was overwhelmed with support, encouragement, and people saying how I was inspiring them in their own lives.

During this year of significant change and transition, I am proud to say that I have not put the armor back on. Being open to my vulnerability has allowed me to connect with people on a new level and embrace life lessons I definitely would not have learned previously.

In moments when I felt alone, digging deep, finding just an ounce of courage inside and asking for help, and admitting when I did not have an answer to a challenge I was facing has brought deeper, more meaningful relationships into my life.

In addition, I am now developing a calm in my life that has allowed me to embrace a new level of happiness.

Looking back on that demonstration with the backpack three years go, what I remember isn’t how long I resisted or even that I surrendered in the end. I remember how it inspired others who saw that I found the courage to give in and embrace what I feared the most after fighting so hard.

Strength isn’t about fighting; sometimes it’s about letting go. Having the courage to be vulnerable, even when it feels insurmountable, is the first step on the journey to a wholehearted life.
http://tinybuddha.com/blog/vulnerability-is-a-sign-of-strength-not-weakness/

[Swish]

Unfortunately for them there is no way they could handle that level of responsibility.

http://i.imgur.com/HU7YEzp.png

Littering cunts, and those signs make little sense

[mickmoranis]

I like the purple feminism is the raidical notion that bla bla bla

becuse it represents what I hear when a woman says something stupid like that and i just blank out

[Domo]

Someone explain to me why a ~14 billion $ wall (prolly more) is better then healthcare.

[Grimjaw]

BOOOM this cam delivers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5oVGQe8Opw
some dude losing his mind
there's so mcuh winning here i cant keep up

ROFL LEBOUF GETTING ARRESTED ON IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wal0YrlDB1s

[Xaanka]

Someone explain to me why a ~14 billion $ wall (prolly more) is better then healthcare.

you seem to think the alternative is for the country to have no healthcare. that's what the whole "repeal and _replace_" tagline has been about.

aca was bloated, non competitive, punished people for nothing, and passed in a very undemocratic way, and it was already starting to fail as was indicated by sharply increasing premiums right before the election which i'm sure helped sway some voters. it would be great and all if we had a medical care system that worked, but that last one was a big pharma cash grab.

[mickmoranis]

BOOOM this cam delivers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5oVGQe8Opw
some dude losing his mind
there's so mcuh winning here i cant keep up

lmao this is basically a performance art piece of online political conversations (https://youtu.be/y5oVGQe8Opw?t=17)

[Rader]

Someone explain to me why a ~14 billion $ wall (prolly more) is better then healthcare.

Love It when Libturds suddenly get religion when it comes to spending other people's money

[maerilith]

http://www.wnd.com/2010/07/184785/

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is warning that illegal aliens may have gained access to a U.S. Army installation in Arizona that also serves as the nation’s largest military intelligence-training center.

“I have deep concerns that people who come into our country illegally have managed to gain access onto an active U.S. military installation,” Arpaio said in a statement today. “This cause for concern goes well beyond the argument that people are only committing the crime of wanting to work in this country.”



Arpaio’s detectives raided Valley View Building Services in central Phoenix today, searching for 25 people suspected of identity theft and fraud.

The company employs 100 people in three states and is contracted to clean newly constructed buildings at Fort Huachuca, an Army post located only 15 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border. At least one of the suspects had worked on the military installation.

The deputies took five women into custody today. Four are suspected illegal aliens arrested for identity theft and fraud. One is a U.S. citizen wanted with an outstanding warrant.

“When we went in there, one of the ladies was hiding her Mexican ID in an enchilada, trying to conceal the identification,” Arpaio said.

He said authorities are still searching for other illegal aliens who may be working for the company.

“We did serve another search warrant on the residence of the owner and, going through the papers, we’re going to determine which work sites that the others may be working at,” he said.

Arpaio told KTVK-3 TV, “One thing I want to find out is how many more illegals have been hired [to work at] Fort Huachuca. That’s a high-intelligence installation. I don’t think people should go on that installation to work if they’re in this country illegally.”

Valley View Building Services released a statement on the arrests today.

“In May of 2010 a manager for Valley View Building Services was detained on the Fort Huachuca military base for a baseless charge made by a disgruntled employee,” explained Joel Votaw, owner of the company. “This charge has since been dropped. During that investigation, it came to light that he was working in the United States illegally, even though he presented a valid Arizona drivers license and social security card. He was allowed on base (entering through the main gate and having to present his ID each time) during the entire duration of this 3-month-long project.”

Votaw said his company fired the manager immediately and that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement began a company-wide investigation into Valley View’s hiring practices. He said today’s raid was for ID theft issues and not due to violation of the employer-sanction law.

Most of the company’s workforce is Hispanic, according to news reports. Votaw said he has always verified identification of its employees through E-Verify, strictly complying with local, state and federal rules.

“Today was the first time we had received any notice that there were more problems. We support the detaining of the four people who were identified as using some other identity and we also support the detaining of the one individual that has a misdemeanor warrant out for his arrest,” he wrote. “These crimes are serious and need to be dealt with.”

Votaw continues, “We are dealing with real people and real problems that deserve to be handled respectfully and justly. If we err, let us err on the side of compassion, but let us do what is required of us both morally and constitutionally. Let us protect our country, while also realizing that we were all immigrants at one time.”

According to various reports, this is hardly the first time illegal aliens have accessed the military installation.

Retired Army officer T.J. Woodward lives in the area. In a May commentary posted on American Thinker, he wrote that he spotted an ad in a Fort Huachuca newspaper asking for volunteers to clean up trash and supplies left on the Army post by illegal aliens.

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“It asked for volunteers to assist in cleaning up ‘dumps’ on posts where the illegals would drop their supplies used to cross the border and change clothing,” Woodward wrote. “They do this in order to blend in and not look like they just spent a day or two crossing the border in the dust and heat of southern Arizona.”

He added, “The most frightening part of this is that Fort Huachuca is the U.S. Army Intelligence Center, where the Army trains its intelligence soldiers – analysts, interrogators, radio intercept specialists and counterintelligence agents – for operations overseas. If we can’t secure the fort we use to train our intelligence soldiers, how can we secure anything else?”

In 2007, The Washington Times reported Fort Huachuca changed security measures “after sources warned that possibly 60 Afghan and Iraqi terrorists were to be smuggled into the U.S. through underground tunnels with high-powered weapons to attack the Arizona Army base.”

An FBI advisory stated, “A portion of the operatives were in the United States, with the remainder not yet in the United States. The Afghanis and Iraqis shaved their beards so as not to appear to be Middle Easterners.”

According to the report, illegal aliens from the Middle East paid Mexican drug lords $20,000 “or the equivalent in weapons” for smuggling them and their weapons through the tunnels.

One source who spoke with DEA intelligence agents said the weapons included two Milan antitank missiles, Soviet-made surface-to-air missiles, grenade launchers, long guns and handguns.

The Tucson Weekly reported one rancher just west of Fort Huachuca answered his door in 2004 when a female illegal alien asked to use his phone.

According to the report, the call was to Libya.

As WND recently reported, thousands of illegal aliens apprehended along the 2,000-mile border stretching through California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas aren’t even from Mexico. Many are citizens of countries that are known sponsors of terrorism, including Afghanistan, Algeria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Syria and Iran.

Arpaio’s crime sweep took place just before a federal judge blocked some of the toughest provisions in Arizona’s illegal-immigration law, S.B. 1070.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2010/07/184785/#AJkL4mSKFcsHODqY.99

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2015/04/08/mexican-officials-find-secret-passageway-they-believe-was-being-constructed-to-smuggle-illegal-immigrants-into-the-u-s-and-wait-until-you-see-where-they-found-it/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/21/800-yard-long-drug-tunnel-found-between-mexico-and-united-states/
http://i.imgur.com/h8hZL6J.png?1

Also, I have first hand accounts of American Army Intelligence officers getting busted with crack coccaine smuggling from mexico, to Huachuca.

Also first hand accounts of illegals just walking on and off the bases there out of storm drains.

You can't stop people, a wall is a waste of money and a distraction from sperglord behavior.

Walls going to be full of holes, won't slow anyone down. Just the vice kids hopping the border.

Besides, it's not skeevy mexicans that are the problem :D

https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/smugglers-blues
Tagged at the Border

The car in front of me was being searched. The Border Patrol officer made the driver get out and open the hood. Then he tapped on the gas tank to see if it was real or not. This was an old dope-smuggling trick – a false gas tank filled with drugs. Finally, the driver was given the green light and was allowed to pass through. Now it was my turn.

I felt pretty good driving up. I'd done this before after all, so there was no beginner nervousness. Plus they never search two cars in a row, at least that was the word on the street. I had my story ready and everyone in the vehicle knew to follow along. This was going to be a cakewalk. I drove up and was hit with the usual questions by one officer while another one seemed to be running my plates.

"What is your citizenship?" the Border Patrol officer asked.

"American," the three of us in the vehicle answered.

"How long were you in Mexico?"

"Three days," I said. Oh yeah, this was easy. Cakewalk city. I felt confident. My voice was strong and not shaky. I had injectable Testosterone in my pocket, some Winstrol tablets in my bag and a host of ancillary drugs stuffed in my suitcase. But I was cool.

"What was the purpose of your visit?"

"Just a little vacation, hitting the clubs, drinking a little."

Then came the rest of the usual questions. Where are you from? Are you bringing back any food items or alcohol? Did you buy anything? What exactly did you buy? I answered all the questions.

Cake, I thought. Pure cake. Then things began to go wrong.

"You drove for seven hours just to party in Juarez?" the burly officer asked.

"Um, yeah."

"And you stayed two nights yet only have one suitcase for the three of you in the vehicle?"

"Uh, yeah, we packed light."

"Does this vehicle really belong to you, sir?"

"Yes, it does."

I was being sized up. I could almost hear the thought process of the officer as he stared me down: This story is a little fuzzy. No one drives that far just to party. This is a nice vehicle for such a young, goofy looking driver. Lots of hiding places on a vehicle like this. Could he be a drug dealer? A couple of these guys look pretty big, too. Steroids? And what's the deal with that single piece of luggage? And why is this one guy from New York while the other two are Texans?

"Pull your vehicle over there, inspection area number five," he finally said.

"Sure, no problem," I said.

We'd been tagged. So much for this being cake. Here's how it works: If the Border Patrol becomes suspicious of you or if you just happen to be unlucky, you're asked to pull into a special area where your car will be more closely inspected. This is called a secondary inspection. More officers and a few National Guard troops ask everyone to get out of the vehicle as they pour through it. This is what happened to us.


Chris tries to look casual, despite the pocket full of 'roids.
While I watched the hood being popped and doors being opened, I stuck my hands in my pockets and made small talk with the other officers. They were friendly and joked a lot with the New Yorker who was a producer for a TV network. Inside my pockets, my fingers played with the Vitamin "T." I tried to keep the smile on my face as I realized I was making the numero uno mistake in the game of drug smuggling: I was unconsciously touching the product. It was something a former cocaine smuggler told me one time.

"You think you're being cool," he'd said, "but your body language is betraying you. You're ratting yourself out by nervously fondling the merchandise."

I slipped my hands out of my pockets, hopefully in a casual manner.

I tried not to watch what the inspectors were doing. I heard my gas tank being tapped by one of the hooked rods they always carry. One guy was under my hood checking things out. But the one that worried me, a member of the National Guard dressed in camo, was standing by my suitcase. I couldn't see what he was doing, but he stood there a long time. If he opened it, he must not have opened the paper bag from the pharmacy, and if he did, he must not have known what was in the little bottles with the mastiff's head on them.

Finally, the hood was slammed and we were told we could go. I'd made it. I'd successfully smuggled something illegal into the country even after the security crackdown fueled by the events of September 11th. Cue the Miami Vice theme song.

Truthfully, I wasn't that worried. While I did take some risks while prepping this article, I didn't take any stupid risks. And of course, I didn't actually smuggle scheduled drugs into the country. Since I'm using my real name and photos in this article, that would've been kinda' dumb. What I did was "smuggle" empties into the US from Mexico. If I'd been caught, I would have had some serious explaining to do and I may have been body searched while my vehicle was dismantled. But still, I wasn't breaking any laws. At least not yet, because I planned on coming back the next day.


Chris entering downtown Juarez.
Hindsight 20/20

The plan had been simple. I would travel to Mexico and buy steroids. Then I would test out the border security by smuggling the empty boxes and bottles back into the US using a variety of methods: driving across, walking across, and mailing the gear across. My goal was to see if it was harder to smuggle steroids and other drugs into the States since the events of September 11th and subsequent tightening of the borders.

I'd traveled to Juarez last summer to write an article on the bordertown drug scene, and on that trip we had no problem getting back through. I didn't see anyone getting searched and the lines were short.

Things have changed.

According to Maxim magazine, marijuana seizures at the Mexican border are up over 36%. Likewise, one inspector at the border told me that they're catching steroid smugglers on a daily basis now. Of course, they're not looking for pot and roids per se; they're after suspected terrorists, hard drugs (almost half the cocaine in the United States comes through Mexico), illegal aliens, and yes, even contraband food items and crocodile skin wallets. Most law enforcement officers I've talked to say that recreational steroid users are the least of their worries. Still, if they're looking for explosives and find a little Deca instead, you're still going to get into some trouble.

I sat in line over an hour during that first border crossing and from what I could see, the amount of secondary searches was way up. Cars were also being inspected more closely in the regular line, some being asked to raise their hoods and open their trunks. I'd say that gathering the supplies for your next cycle is much harder post-9/11. And because of the more thorough inspections, the lines are generally long and slow, at least in Juarez.

But still, we made it though. Our empty steroid boxes and bottles were never found, despite the secondary search. Here's what we learned about this brave new world of steroid smuggling:

• Tell the truth, or as much of the truth as possible. Don't make up an elaborate lie or you'll have more chances of flubbing something in the questioning. In retrospect, I should have told the Border Patrol that I was a journalist writing about increased border security. My "We just came to go clubbin'" line was really lame given that they knew we had traveled a long way to come to Mexico.

Also, if you say you came to Mexico to shop, buy something! If you say you came to take photos, have a camera with you! And if you say you were on vacation, have more than one suitcase in the car! (The truth is that we were coming right back to Mexico after we crossed the border. That's why we had only one suitcase with us. I'd thrown it in as a prop at the last second, but my unnecessary lie caught up with me anyway.)

• Use a smaller car. Large vehicles have a greater chance of being inspected. Also, I was later told that my vehicle (a big, black SUV) was a favorite of the drug cartels. Smooth move, Chris!

• Expect to be inspected. Based on my observations, you probably won't be asked to drive into the secondary inspection stalls but be prepared anyway. In pre-9/11 days, about one in twenty or one in thirty vehicles were searched. These days, the estimations vary from one in eleven to one in three. Whatever the actual statistics are, it's safe to say that more cars are being searched than ever before.

• If your vehicle is searched, you can still get away with bringing gear into the country. Border Patrol and National Guard (1700 were activated to assist inspectors after the terrorist attacks) are looking for big scores: large amounts of drugs and bad guys with bad things in their trunks. It isn't too hard to hide a personal amount of gear. Remember that, at least in my experiences last weekend, your car is searched but your luggage may not be. And if it is, it may not me searched intimately. In other words, put your gear in something and then put that something in the suitcase, backpack, or whatever. Take ampoules and tablets out of their boxes and put them in something else. Bury your stuff three-deep in your baggage (i.e. tablets in vitamin bottle, vitamin bottle in shaving kit, shaving kit in suitcase.)

• After talking with numerous border crossers, some of whom had brought back illegal items, not one told me their bodies had been searched. I'm sure this can happen, but it doesn't happen too often. I'm guessing that a person would have to be acting really suspicious to get his car, luggage, and body searched. So you may be better off keeping your gear on you. No, I'm not telling you how to do this, but remember this tip: The first place you think to hide something, whether on your person or in your vehicle, is also the first place every one else thinks of, and that's the first place the inspectors will look. Be creative.

• There may be camera filming the line of waiting cars. So don't do stupid stuff while waiting in line.

• Never offer additional info. Politely answer the questions they ask you. Don't offer any additional info unless asked. Nervous people tend to spill their guts. If I were asked what I did for a living I should simply say, "I'm a writer" and leave it at that, not "I'm a writer for Testosterone, a mag that talks a lot about steroids and I've got a pocketful of gear but TC made me do it and I'm real, real sorry, okay?!" See, that would be bad.

• Finally, keep in mind that we only brought in a few boxes and bottles of steroids and ancillary drugs, not even enough for a real cycle. Obviously, your chances are going to be much higher the more products you bring in. Avoid bringing in unnecessary items that take up space. Some bodybuilders and athletes buy syringes in Mexico, but this is silly since they can be purchased online in the US without a prescription. You don't want an inspector to ask you why you're bringing pins into the country because you'll then have to lie. (See the first tip above.)
Border Hopper

Most of the above info applies to those driving a vehicle through the border, but you can also walk through. Although we stayed at a hotel in Mexico, I wanted to experience what it was like to walk through customs. On the way out, my buddies Kyle and Chuck drove the SUV and I hopped out about a mile from the border. Inside my Boblbee backpack I stuffed a few empty boxes of Shering Primoteston Depot.


Chris makes a walk for the border because making a run for the border looks really, really suspicious.
This was Easter morning and there were no crowds in the pedestrian inspection area. In fact, besides the two Border Patrol agents, I was the only person in the room. I was asked to declare my citizenship and asked the same old standard questions. I was told before I left on my trip that most walkers aren't asked to open their bags. It happens, but not to everyone.

Now, perhaps security has also been tightened on pedestrians; perhaps they weren't busy and had plenty of time; or perhaps I'm just one suspicious looking sumbitch. Whatever the reason, I was asked to step aside and open my pack. I opened it up and one of the officers ruffled through the items in it: a camera, a notepad, some gifts, etc. He picked up one of the gift sacks and asked me what was in it. I told him it was a glass piggy bank for my daughter. He put it back, closed the pack and wished me a nice day. Again I'd been searched, but the roid boxes weren't found in one of the small compartments. I'd gotten away clean.

I don't normally hear voices, but that day as I walked back into Texas, I heard one. It said:

"He didn't even open the sack. How many amps could you have hidden in that little piggy bank? Dozens, huh? And how many tabs of D-bol could have fit in there? Hundreds? Thousands? You could have carried enough shit back for multiple cycles. And how much money could you have made by selling that stuff back home? Come on, it would've been easy. Even though you were searched you got away with it. You could get away with it again. Are you free next weekend? I am."

Maybe you've heard that voice at times in your life, too. Don't listen to it. Let's not forget that as lifters and athletes, we often speak casually about bringing gear back into the US, but we are talking about smuggling here – Title 18, United States Code, Section 545. This is a felony, not a misdemeanor.

Sure, maybe your roids will just be taken from you and you'll lose your money, but maybe you'll be fined a few hundred bucks, maybe have to hire a lawyer, do some community service, or maybe, just maybe, you'll have to do some jail time. If you're bringing enough back to sell, then all this is pretty likely. I don't deny hearing that red devil on my shoulder whispering into my ear, but I had the common sense to flick that little booger off and think about my family and career.

I stayed and chatted with the inspector awhile and he told me about a large steroid bust involving some Texas basketball players. He also hinted that roids weren't a priority, but they do catch athletes, bodybuilders, and dealers quite often. After the small talk, I headed out to wait on Kyle and Chuck. This is where I almost screwed the puppy. I took my camera out of my bag and tried to take a picture of an inspection in progress. No sooner than I'd snapped a shot off I was damned near bum rushed by a couple of Border Patrol agents.

They made me erase the picture and gave me a stern warning not to take any photos of them. They explained that they receive a lot of death threats from drug dealers and don't want pictures floating around of their faces. They also explained that as Border Patrol officers they weren't safe in Mexico and could never go there. Most wear large sunglasses, maybe to help conceal their identity. Scary stuff that I admit I never thought about before. These guys aren't the "enemy" of the recreational steroid user, but they do have a job to do, and it's a tough one. A steroid user may not like that job, but you have to respect the men and women protecting our borders. (On a related note, one pharmacist told me that one of his best customers worked for the Border Patrol.)

After making peace with the officers, I saw Kyle and Chuck pull up. They were made to get out and open up the back of the SUV, but weren't snagged for secondary inspection this time. They picked me up and we sailed out of there.

Smuggling Without Being There

With the increased chance of getting popped at the border, a lot of people are choosing to have their gear mailed to them from bordertown pharmacies. This may not be all that bad for the pharmacies, but it can still get you into trouble. If you order and receive illegal items from another country, it's your problem, not the sender's. (And if the sender is smart, he'll use a fake address on the package instead of his real one.)

Supposedly, though, if a personal supply of steroids is popped, you'll get a letter that basically tells you the products were seized. Usually, it ends there. You lose your stuff and your mailing information may be entered into a database of "watched" addresses. This means if you ever try to do it again, you'll need to use another address. Just remember that using fake info or sending to an unknowing person is also illegal and could constitute mail fraud.

During my visits to the Juarez pharmacies, I noticed a lot of people were having their gear mailed to them instead of packing it out. I watched the crowd for over an hour at one infamous pharmacia and only two people out of dozens of steroid buyers chose to risk the border. The pharmacist here used a mule to carry the orders into El Paso and mail them from there. Smart move. Since your package is coming from within the US, you'll have a much better chance of receiving it. A domestic mailing is always safer than an international one.

Still, things may have changed since 9/11. To see how all this worked, I bought a few amps of Test and had them mailed to the States. I paid for the roids, a five dollar shipping fee and then 20% was tagged onto the order to pay the mule. The package arrived safely right before this article went to press. Still, they don't all make it through and the risks are always there, regardless of the method used.

The Best Way to Get Your Gear?

On this trip into Mexico we discovered a new trend in smuggling (or at least it was new to us), but now I'm faced with a dilemma as I write this article. If I tell readers about this method, I'll also be telling da man. This doesn't seem to be a big secret anyway since everyone from pharmacists to waiters told us this was the preferred method of getting gear across these days, but still, I'm a little reluctant to just blast this info out over the net for all to see.

So instead of telling everyone outright about this method, I'll weed out the meatheads who'll use this info to mess it up for the rest of us. So here's your hint. There are other ways of getting into Mexico besides driving and walking. No, I'm talking about swimming the river or jumping the fence. This is a popular method of travel used by day shoppers and old people. Figure out what I'm talking about and you may have found the safest method (at least for now) of getting some muscle juice across the border. I'm told bags and backpacks are hardly ever searched with this method. Plus it's fast and handy. And remember, having the gear on your person is probably the safest method since body searches are still rare.


Pharmacias as far as the eye can see!
No doubt about it, security has been tightened at the Mexican-American border. Still, if you feel you have a right to use steroids in a safe and sane manner and you're not selling them to fifteen year olds, then it's still possible to get your gear home. The risks are always there and these days the risks are a little greater than they were before September 11th, but if you're smart, it can be done. Even if you're a suspicious looking sumbitch like me.




Mad props for the masks, and much love to my mexican pals and culture :D

http://i.imgur.com/1zON79k.png

Also, this has been going a long time.

We'd be better off natrualizing, armying, traineing, and using people who are victims of humantrafficking as counter-intelligence/guerilla operatives against the cartels.

But U DONT want to fix the problem.

You just want to MONOTIZE the problem.

GUD JOB PALZ

PPS was stationed in FT BLISS AT BIGGS ARMY AIRFIELD

Thinx I could consider myself an expurt on immigration problemz and skeevy stripclubs were u just actually get laid and a free steak dinner. Good times. No pussynapkins or pasties, and the girls were 100x sexier than anything in NY or FL - they loved it when u brought them a bottle of good liquor :D

<3

[maerilith]

^^ More vulnurable than a virgin in Trumps bedroom ^^

[maerilith]

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/pepe-the-frog.html#.WIoh1FjQfDc

In recent years, with the growth of the "alt right" segment of the white supremacist movement, a segment that draws some of its support from some of the above-mentioned Internet sites, the number of "alt right" Pepe memes has grown, a tendency exacerbated by the controversial and contentious 2016 presidential election. Though Pepe memes have many defenders, the use of racist and bigoted versions of Pepe memes seems to be increasing, not decreasing.

http://i.imgur.com/Jdbuypp.jpg?1http://i.imgur.com/bJOg73u.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ruwOwiy.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/NXUz2qB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/VUfpqRV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Xrt6XFX.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/WewcRat.jpg

Personally, all *people who support Trump, and conversly, the Nazi party ("alt right") are responsible for the rise in hate crimes being committed every day.

[bigjerry]

cumputers seem to be used for more racism && that trend is increasing not decreasing wuddp with that

[bigjerry]

wjen we attempt to exterminate a race they start 2 form more race based opinions thats wack my dude

[bigjerry]

when we play nonstop rsce baiting stories for 3 yrs and have the matrix clal the president of the united states a kkk member ppl start thinkin bout the kkk whassup withthat yo

[maerilith]

weak sauce excuses used by weak sauce people

should be exterminated IMO

[Grimjaw]

This list was put together a few days ago so it's probably already out dated.

http://i.imgur.com/CVnAEJ7.jpg

[bigjerry]

I agree (https://youtu.be/TL1R7oZ1oGU)

[maerilith]

Trump will never suck Mike Pences cock appearently.

He hasn't brought back any jobs.

He's still suffering from his dumbass comments and has no mandate or support outside of a few fascist politicians and the Nazi of breightbart.

[bigjerry]

ill be his man date

[maerilith]

I agree (https://youtu.be/TL1R7oZ1oGU)

LOL! :o:p:cool:;):D

[maerilith]

ill be his man date

Good one.

http://i.imgur.com/xmfro.gif

[Grimjaw]

That's why he'll be there for 8 years

http://i.imgur.com/KBFi0Q1.jpg

[maerilith]

Plenty of clowns on both sides. You've a minor point here. However there's plenty of legitimate criticism of Trump. I've posted stuff from Dan Rather and the Ny Times, as well as from Fox calling him on his bs. Oh wall street journal had some brilliant scathing criticism too :P

If you think everyone who opposes Trump is a weirdo pink hair cosplaying weirdo. You're quite wrong.

The alt right social media frenzy is far more clownish and disgusting even to genuine evangelicals.

Give people time. Not everyone is high speed and low drag.

What animal is *she? Even cosplaying? (*he's probably normal at his Wal-Mart job).

[Ahldagor]

So the former sheriff of Maricopa County hasn't figured out that the CIA runs the global drug trade with the US military? Good work ther sheriff since it's been obvious since our first dealings in Vietnam.

[bigjerry]

but the us milatary is fundamentally honourable my brothers in arms would never do that (great because we're good)

[maerilith]

I know this. It's why the wall is legendarily humorous. Pointed out Air America in the past (not just a movie).

Sometimes you can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink.

[JurisDictum]

The culture of the CIA is that no one asks questions they don't want to hear the answer to. So yes, lots of operatives choose to get funds from drug dealing (for various projects). But its not like the leadership sits around a table and plots the drug trade worldwide.

[bigjerry]

The culture of the CIA is that no one asks questions they don't want to hear the answer to. So yes, lots of operatives choose to get funds from drug dealing (for various projects). But its not like the leadership sits around a table and plots the drug trade worldwide.

ya theres a few bad ppl in every organization but definitely none at the top of the cia cuz we're great (cuz we're good)

[maerilith]

The culture of the CIA is that no one asks questions they don't want to hear the answer to. So yes, lots of operatives choose to get funds from drug dealing (for various projects). But its not like the leadership sits around a table and plots the drug trade worldwide.

Fair enough. I didn't accuse conspiracy. Just enjoying the low level facts I have.

You make sense.

[JurisDictum]

I just think its important to note the difference between a circle of elites totally controlling an entire industry, from a circle of elites that might have 1-2 members here and there engaged in selling drugs.

[maerilith]

I just think its important to note the difference between a circle of elites totally controlling an entire industry, from a circle of elites that might have 1-2 members here and there engaged in selling drugs.

Yes. It's an important distinction. Lts lt.... Not confirmation of anything but Lt behavior.

[Xaanka]

when we play nonstop rsce baiting stories for 3 yrs and have the matrix clal the president of the united states a kkk member ppl start thinkin bout the kkk whassup withthat yo

you can spot a race baiting retard from a mile away from the simple mention of the KKK, a racist organization which has been effectively dead for almost 30 years ago which has been propped up by the democratic party and CIA to a) slander republicans and b) serve as informants in their communities

like it's the most transparent thing ever. anyone with a basic grasp on modern history + not being a complete retard knows this. yet every election cycle some klan leaders nobody's ever heard of are dragged out of obscurity to (((endorse))) the republican.

[mickmoranis]

best video i seen so far, hitllllleeeeeeer
(https://twitter.com/HWNDUS/status/824506907796791296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

bang bang

[mickmoranis]

new health insurance... pre-existing conditions is a black spot on it... can we fix? discuss. tranny, what say you?

[entruil]

seems the t-virus is taking hold remarkably quickly... what the fuck is wrong with people

[maerilith]

best video i seen so far, hitllllleeeeeeer
(https://twitter.com/HWNDUS/status/824506907796791296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

bang bang

http://i.imgur.com/NY5OPT1.gif

[bigjerry]

ya dood covert state drug trafficking is not systemic that would be unprecedented + impossible

if it ever got found out the president wojld say he got nuthin2do with it which would 100% prove its just some rogue careerist hyped up on islamophobia

[maerilith]

new health insurance... pre-existing conditions is a black spot on it... can we fix? discuss. tranny, what say you?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4644137/obamacare-repeal-continuous-coverage-preexisting-conditions/%3Fsource%3Ddam?client=ms-android-att-us

Pretty gay if you ask me...
Maybe we shouldn't let feds like reed oconner obstruct the ACA over title IX issues and red states could have followed federal rules and expanded Medicaid instead of forcibly obstructing the ACA and creating a legal quagmire.

Basically Tom Price has doomed anyone who hasn't been able to afford insurance continuously ... It will force people to pick a low cost plan with terrible copays and deductible that probably won't cover important things for women, or exclude certain people because of religious affiliation.

Republican beuracrats are terrible.

It will however likely reduce welfare plans cost that cover vaccines and antibiotics and stuff that was already inexpensive out of pocket, 40$ at most. Allowing pharmaceutical companies to further inflate the cost of drugs by extortion through subsidized insurance. I doubt he's going to even think about that.

They are just rubber stamping what rich plutocrats wanted all along.

Now poor on welfare can spend 100$/month on craps they don't need. Instead of that antibiotic or good food or Medicaid covering whatever herpes they have to live with.

On the upside it will continue to piss of lower class white ppl.

[entruil]

whoops.

[bigjerry]

i was roleplaying a boot licking mongoloid in that post btw

[maerilith]

For pre-existing conditions they just need to include a provision that prohibits denial of benefits for pre-existing conditions originating prior to some arbitrary recent date like 01/20/2017, so long as affected persons were insured as of 01/20/2017, then it slowly unwind itself. Whether that'd be good or not, I dunno ^^
^^ ish definitely better idea here.

[mickmoranis]

ruh roh the right has yet another strong argument against liberals not knowing what the hell they are doing. If there is one thing I can tell you about protests, they last about 6 months before they disperse into memory.

http://i.imgur.com/mVrBTOn.png

[maerilith]

So, you're a gay who's afraid of women doing this to you? ^^

I'm confused by your angers gender identity.

[mickmoranis]

the KKK Is very much alive here in the south

not sure where you live bud

kid, just because you live in the poorest, worst county of your state, overun by meth and people like you, doesnt mean they are "alive" in the south.

[mickmoranis]

haha laughing at you =/= angry with you

[maerilith]

the KKK Is very much alive here in the south

not sure where you live bud

^^

[Pokesan]

i was roleplaying a boot licking mongoloid in that post btw

superboy prime up in this ho

[Pokesan]

so like the election is over u guys can lay off my zeitgeist now

ecce homo

[maerilith]

One last parting gift before I die of AIDs.

Trump and his followers are just the perfect group of people to assuage any remaining reservations the Chinese civilian population had about the genocide of the western world. Guess who's better at automation and logistics?

God bless.

[bigjerry]

ecce homo

its spelled ecchi

[entruil]

*RP Content (Interviewed by Jones)*
Trump Is Trying To Stop Global Collapse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYJR-_ZxOao)

[maerilith]

*RP Content (Interviewed by Jones)*
Trump Is Trying To Stop Global Collapse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYJR-_ZxOao)

Nice anyone notice Alex Jones has small hands too?

Could it be a result of genetic manipulation?

Anyway, back to dieing from AIDs. *poof*

[Pokesan]

its spelled ecchi

down the rabbit hole

http://i.imgur.com/VEoq3oQ.jpg

[Pokesan]

I was going to comment on that, but was concerned pokes may have been going for something else... I don't really understand, but feel my reservations ns have been duly validated ^^


Also, is that like "roid" Miku or something?

j derailed my ad homonym

[mickmoranis]

one last post *insta reply*

[bigjerry]

DAMN that's a good page

u guys are really smart sometines

[Secrets]

Of course he won't divide us. Liberals will tear this country apart because 'not muh prez'

[AzzarTheGod]

Saw this, too. That arab woman who helped organize the march has ties to ISIS and is a big proponent of sharia in the US.

and these so called feminists are pro sharia.

thats like the definition of schizophrenia isnt it?

feminism =/= sharia law. cognitive dissonance unending i brought a couple layers to stunt but what did u say Anguish to get this girl tight?

[bigjerry]

man azzar streetposts get me swole

[Trungep99]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/politics/mexico-wall-tax-trump.html?referer=http://m.facebook.com

An interesting read but seems completely flawed if it ever is enacted.

In short it says Mexico won't pay for the wall, it would be companies that want their products shipped from Mexico to America will pay a 20% tax, thus American companies will pay for the wall.

Mind you I think the wall idea is a completely dumb, we could build a Bullet train or something revolutionary for The American way of life with that money instead of a crappy wall to keep people from picking our lettuce for dirt cheap.

[bigjerry]

its that ol dirty type flow maybe ur the unfunky one

[mickmoranis]

kids were givin a story with anonomous characters. at age 5 girls said the smart character was a girl and boys said it was a boy

at 6 all said the smart characters were boys.

so at 6 kids figure out how the world works.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/01/26/511801423/young-girls-are-less-apt-to-think-women-are-really-really-smart

or they become democrats and march after the election is over.

[AzzarTheGod]

think anguish means i cant get on the mic but hes wrong i been in the studio working hard. new year, new me. 2017 squad.


sneak peak

call the weedman, every poster from red 99 off like 3 xans


thats just a lil taste kid squares arent going to like thisalbum. n if ur a square i dont want u listening to my posts

[Ahldagor]

Go through the nuanced language of the bill and see how they define "wall" because that shit's hilarious. Glorious wall will basically be and upgraded chain link fence which Bush 2 put up.

[maerilith]

Of course he won't divide us. Liberals will tear this country apart because 'not muh prez'

Well. Agnostic moderates didn't put Bannon, breightbart in the white house and give 4chan and the alt right a political voice.

Cannot blame them when people are spraying swastikas, burning cars, and threatening to kill and subjugate them like the "chattel" they should be.

Hate to say this bro, the very fearful radical Islam NWO globalist conspiracy isn't worth bringing out the nooses.

My invitation to come hang in FL away from your progressive bubble still stands.

When the bigots and bullies pushed an entire generation over the brink, you have Millenials. That momentum won't slow under our new fascist regime.

[mickmoranis]

bannon just called out the media for not predicting trumps win. I think hes right. fuck you guys for not liking brannon you only know what your skewed ass media bullshit megalords tell you to think anyway, thats the only reason you dont like him, cus of bullshit they fill your head with.

[bigjerry]

literally that entire last page was populated by sexual deviants

trannyquest is back

[maerilith]

bannon just called out the media for not predicting trumps win. I think hes right. fuck you guys for not liking brannon you only know what your skewed ass media bullshit megalords tell you to think anyway, thats the only reason you dont like him, cus of bullshit they fill your head with.

All I saw on breughtbart was bullying, threats, and name calling, and citations linked to radical hateful extremism. That fire will burn itself out in its own flame. Doctors who've been discredited due to malpractice, where it comes to any science.

You can call people mentally ill and persecute them for being different, only so much until they have nothing left but to roll the hard 6.

[bigjerry]

hard 6 u mean like Russian roulette?

my girl holly windstalker got something to say about that

[maerilith]

hard 6 u mean like Russian roulette?

my girl holly windstalker got something to say about that

Hard six, turn around and go head to head with the force chasing you.

I got nothing to lose, everything to gain, no force is going to oppress me. Got a lifetime of pain stored up, been holding back, waiting for the right moment. No Evil haunting me. I got free.

[Pokesan]

Hard six, turn around and go head to head with the force chasing you.

I got nothing to lose, everything to gain, no force is going to oppress me. Got a lifetime of pain stored up, been holding back, waiting for the right moment. No Evil haunting me. I got free.

u finally get rid of that penis ghost?

[mickmoranis]

All I saw on breughtbart was bullying, threats, and name calling, and citations linked to radical hateful extremism..

of course, CNN WaPo, NYT, MSNBC, you name it, were all too bussy printing fear mongery crap like that than actually trying to analyse the election, instead they thought they'd just tell the american people Hillary won, so the guy and administration that was about to finally give the media the shit they deserve, might not actually win.

they were WRONG

[mickmoranis]

where is daywolf? was he a troll liberal that thought he might of got trump elected and hanged himself after the election?

or is he out getting rich as fuck with the deregulation he been waiting 8 years for?

[maerilith]

of course, CNN WaPo, NYT, MSNBC, you name it, were all too bussy printing fear mongery crap like that than actually trying to analyse the election, instead they thought they'd just tell the american people Hillary won, so the guy and administration that was about to finally give the media the shit they deserve, might not actually win.

they were WRONG

I'm not at all worried cuz I went and read Bannons filth. Adults and soldiers won't stand for it. I think strategically speaking Trump would be smart to have a quiet, uneventful 4 yrs.

But him and the Nazi want to get ppl killed and all they want is to hurt ppl. I read their stories. They libel everyone. I'm pretty hurt personally by shit I read on there and things ppl did to abuse me.

Brannon crossed the line. No moral or responsible or compassionate person will ever follow him or his thugs.

[maerilith]

u finally get rid of that penis ghost?

Free and clear. 99% synthetic, cybernetic, prosthetic.

[JurisDictum]

NO NO NO

American CONSUMERS will pay for the wall. American companies, or the ones who pay the 20% tax, will simply raise prices. That's business.

Industries want you to believe that but it isn't always the case. The price is set where it is most profitable (in any big business). It doesn't always follow that passing the tax onto the consumer will make the product or service more profitable.

[entruil]

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2017/01/17/obamas-covert-drone-war-numbers-ten-times-strikes-bush/

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.


Is there any reason to believe this isn't going to repeat itself and increase dramatically with precedent?

[entruil]

Paid psychotic brainwashed shill (whats the opposite of victim)

(Lenin's useful idiot?) <- interesting that wiki lists it as first recently used to describe Don, when it more aptly applys to the commies on the left

[maerilith]

paid brainwashing victum

also fake news

ppl have breakdowns

I try not to blame Trump supporters for it, but it's hard, y'know?

probably paid brainwashee wife of a bapist tho. more degrading than just doing porn

[bigjerry]

I honestly can't decide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV9MfCZBkVM

shrieked at for 5 min for being black

thanks liberalism

also fake, they are both in on it

[maerilith]

shrieked at for 5 min for being black

thanks liberalism

also fake, they are both in on it

Maybe they didn't show it, and took the whole thing out of context, but the black ppl in there shrieked at her for being white and voting trump? So she stood up for herself? IDK

Need more than just an upset Nazi word on this.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Just another F ing Libturd, the result of a half century of progressive control of this country

[mickmoranis]

proves we know why liberals are postulating "why can we afford a wall but cant afford to give flint Michigan water."

[mickmoranis]

fake or not the Michael's store woman would kick this girls ass.

[Ahldagor]

Petulant breakdowns attract others.

[Pokesan]

also fake, they are both in on it

[Ahldagor]

thats the point, my dude

theyre both fucking stupid, but whoever is radicalizing and brainwashing these millenial libshits is now introducing the idea that sharia law is women's liberation

Porn apologists for sex workers, have you seen?

[Nilstoniakrath]

NO NO NO

American CONSUMERS will pay for the wall. American companies, or the ones who pay the 20% tax, will simply raise prices. That's business.

True... but it is funny how libturds never apply this logic to the taxes they want to pay for all their crap programs, it is always the tons of excess profits companies are hoarding, that they think pay for those idiotic social welfare crap that they keep pushing on the rest of us

[Pokesan]

True... but it is funny how libturds never apply this logic to the taxes they want to pay for all their crap programs, it is always the tons of excess profits companies are hoarding, that they think pay for those idiotic social welfare crap that they keep pushing on the rest of us

an economics lesson from a remarkably stupid child

don't ever post again

[Pokesan]

distilling the topic of tax burden re: market value into the simple idea of "NUMBER GETS BIGGER" is a good example of american *excellence

[Fasttimes]

Whatever it takes to keep illegals from having US born children and getting Wic and EBT all the while getting paid cash so they aren't payng taxes and double dip. don't forget there obama phone.

[Pokesan]

Since you're so fucking above us all, why don't you elaborate.

do your own research im not here to teach you math

[Pokesan]

Whatever it takes to keep illegals from having US born children and getting Wic and EBT all the while getting paid cash so they aren't payng taxes and double dip. don't forget there obama phone.

"Obamaphones" as a government program were created under bush 2

my good dimwit

[Fasttimes]

"Obamaphones" as a government program were created under bush 2

my good dimwit

I don't care whose program it was get rid of it and section 8 while we are at it.

[Pokesan]

Yep, I'm convinced that you're just here to belittle people instead of actually debating a point.

Dumb people do that - intelligent people have no problems telling you their point(s).

my bad dude, i figured you had read the post you quoted and replied to on the previous page

[Fasttimes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

[maerilith]

This is why I come on here and troll and occasionally drop tidbits of wisdom and info, and don't try to "play nice" or win people over.

It's pointless.

These Trump supporters are like diseased animals. You can't fix them by acting calm around them. You just have to shoot them and move on with life.

[Fasttimes]

Pro-government people in general...

The left wants more fed programs. The right doesn't generally speaking. I mean saying trump supports are diseased animals is generalizing anyways so figure that was where we are at.

[maerilith]

Pro-government people in general...

That's a good one :D I'll stop saying "trump" "liberal" "dem" and go back to that. Life was better as libertarian and anarchist.

[maerilith]

The left wants more fed programs. The right doesn't generally speaking. I mean saying trump supports are diseased animals is generalizing anyways so figure that was where we are at.

Have you read some of these comments on this site, and others? People who literally espous trump as their glorious god emporer and want to roll back fucking abortion and gay marraige and fuck over LGBT people in the military and fuck everyone on healthcare because? Allow ppl like hobbylobby to deny coverage to lesbians and babymamas who want abortions or who don't have a daddy?

It's not hobby lobbies place to be government and if we going to federally subsidize healthcare we have to do it for everyone.

Either or. This is one of those issues where I'm not going to pay for only "white christian identity" to get health, tax, welfare, while everyone else is fucked.

ppl shouldn't get a free pass for making babies

and we aren't being overun by immigrants/refugees or gays and blacks, the white ppl aren't becoming a minority, and arent at any disadvantage but the ones they won't take responsability for themselves

The problem is, when ppl propose FADA and support trump, u look at them and say "FUCK" I'm going to give my $$ to the lizard queen bitch to kill this fucking WASPS.

They are dumb, I don't really care about their feels, but i've fucking fought for this country and struggled enough to not see fucking pepe nazi memed children running government.

This welfare ppl buying only millions of dollars of soda and getting free colledge for being refugees is dumb to, made up bullshit.

My mom was on foodstamps and she worked and went to school and my grandparants still helped raise us and pay for our rent in a tiny shithole of a shack. That's fucking welfare. It's not fucking golden parachutes, we were fucking glad to have some peanutbutter and oatmeal.

Fuck the fucking fuckers like Trump. Who wanna be like Trump, who think like TRUMP. FUCK THEM.

[Fasttimes]

Have you read some of these comments on this site, and others? People who literally espous trump as their glorious god emporer and want to roll back fucking abortion and gay marraige and fuck over LGBT people in the military and fuck everyone on healthcare because? Allow ppl like hobbylobby to deny coverage to lesbians and babymamas who want abortions or who don't have a daddy?

It's not hobby lobbies place to be government and if we going to federally subsidize healthcare we have to do it for everyone.

Either or. This is one of those issues where I'm not going to pay for only "white christian identity" to get health, tax, welfare, while everyone else is fucked.

ppl shouldn't get a free pass for making babies

and we aren't being overun by immigrants/refugees or gays and blacks, the white ppl aren't becoming a minority, and arent at any disadvantage but the ones they won't take responsability for themselves

The problem is, when ppl propose FADA and support trump, u look at them and say "FUCK" I'm going to give my $$ to the lizard queen bitch to kill this fucking WASPS.

They are dumb, I don't really care about their feels, but i've fucking fought for this country and struggled enough to not see fucking pepe nazi memed children running government.

i didn't say what way i was. i just think sucking the teat dry with leeches is killing us. and i mean all leeching. both corp and residential. section 8, welfare, wic, stupid ass tax breaks for corps maybe good idea's but if you been in reality you would know they get abused by every race. for the record i'm mixed so i'm not a general white trump supporter. i dont have the answer to fix it, doesn't mean its not broke as shit.

[maerilith]

i didn't say what way i was. i just think sucking the teat dry with leeches is killing us. and i mean all leeching. both corp and residential. section 8, welfare, wic, stupid ass tax breaks for corps maybe good idea's but if you been in reality you would know they get abused by every race. for the record i'm mixed so i'm not a general white trump supporter. i dont have the answer to fix it, doesn't mean its not broke as shit.

That is broke and I"m super pissed at walmart hiring people for 8$ an hr than getting them on wic and foodstamps, and because walmart has these peons, walmart gets a tax credit for everyone who used tax money from the government.....

It's dumb, we should cut the whole thing dry.

Trump will not do that though. He doesn't give a shit. Nor does pence, or the other retard assholes in his cabinet.

I fucking agree 100% fiscially with republicins/libertarians/welfare etc

[Fasttimes]

That is broke and I"m super pissed at walmart hiring people for 8$ an hr than getting them on wic and foodstamps, and because walmart has these peons, walmart gets a tax credit for everyone who used tax money from the government.....

It's dumb, we should cut the whole thing dry.

Trump will not do that though. He doesn't give a shit. Nor does pence, or the other retard assholes in his cabinet.

I fucking agree 100% fiscially with republicins/libertarians/welfare etc

neither will hillary. so back to the status quo. /shrug ill just keep on trucking and hooking up free internet for people with better cars then me and the free rent they live in.

[maerilith]

neither will hillary. so back to the status quo. /shrug ill just keep on trucking and hooking up free internet for people with better cars then me and the free rent they live in.

Yeah.

So

/shrug

I'm mad, but more about how and why the process worked, than the outcome...

back to unfucking my life and not worrying about how fucked life is....

[Grimjaw]

theres like 10 people trolling the shit outa that cam ritght now

[Xaanka]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/politics/mexico-wall-tax-trump.html?referer=http://m.facebook.com

An interesting read but seems completely flawed if it ever is enacted.

In short it says Mexico won't pay for the wall, it would be companies that want their products shipped from Mexico to America will pay a 20% tax, thus American companies will pay for the wall.

Mind you I think the wall idea is a completely dumb, we could build a Bullet train or something revolutionary for The American way of life with that money instead of a crappy wall to keep people from picking our lettuce for dirt cheap.

i mean i hate to ruin your little gotcha post, but nobody who voted for trump is going to care or get outraged that american companies who outsourced to mexico are going to foot the bill. hint: we don't even really care how it gets paid for.

over 80% of mexico's exports are to the US, most of it is auto and cell phones. either way the mexican economy is paying for part of the wall, which is a very justifiable situation given that the mexican government has been openly taking advantage of us for 10 years, printing how2 cross border pamphlets and shit. remember, the mexican government has never once apologized for this.

also it's pretty sad that political rhetoric has caused people like you to speak on issues like they know anything about what they're talking about. like uh, ignoring the fact that you're completely dodging the fact that the wall and deportation is focused on violent/drug/gang criminal illegals, the innocent ones have done a lot more than just "pick our lettuce and run that dank taco truck down the street"

like i'm just saying having worked for years in the residential construction, plumbing, and landscaping industries, all of which are very well paying jobs that traditionally would serve as the beginnings of career paths for 20-somethings who are currently chronically unemployed/underemployed in today's market. all of these industries have been 100% displaced by illegals. try finding a plumber on the west coast who is a US citizen, i don't mean the dude in company advertisements i mean the laborer they send to your house. some of these jobs paid more than what most STEM students would make 10 years out of college in the 90's. blue collar work used to be respected in this country.

here's a good example why hiring illegal plumbers isn't a good idea https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4b1_1483233942

my job was pretty much entirely fixing all the fucked up janky shit illegals did to homeowners who found out HEY YOU CAN'T SUE AN ILLEGAL MEXICAN after they fucked their house up and ran away with the money. every single time it was redoing some shitty work an illegal did, because in a lot of areas there just isn't anyone else to call. insuring construction workers is expensive. you can't compete if you hire citizens, it's not even about the employee's take home at all.

hell being in those industries i can tell you that by supporting illegal immigration you aren't bettering these peoples' lives at all. a lot of these jobs are dangerous.. roofing especially. the way things currently are, an illegal immigrant isn't insured. that and taxes is where all the money's saved by the employer. in cases where those guys get injured and can't work, they're fucked for life. their family here and back home is fucked for life. people who counted on them. by closing the border, doing something with the people already here, booting out the known criminals and creating a better path to citizenship, you would be bettering these peoples' lives. like fuck it's like these retards have never read The Jungle. isn't that like, basic high school reading curriculum?

i expect you to just gloss this over and call me a racist, nobody ever gets it until you're deciding between writing a $50,000 check to fix the shit some illegal day worker messed up, or walking away from your home because you thought you could save $2000 hiring a cheap contractor.

its disturbing to me that you would mischaracterize the situation so blatantly and in such a passe way, like you almost believe the crap you're posting or something :/

[Xaanka]

Industries want you to believe that but it isn't always the case. The price is set where it is most profitable (in any big business). It doesn't always follow that passing the tax onto the consumer will make the product or service more profitable.

wow someone displaying an at-least basic understanding of economics and business, give this guy a fuckin cookie

[maerilith]

i mean i hate to ruin your little gotcha post, but nobody who voted for trump is going to care or get outraged that american companies who outsourced to mexico are going to foot the bill. i'm personally quite happy. i was against this whole wall thing in favor of a camera wall/better security/enforced current laws until i heard this news. would rather those assholes and the mexican government feel their balls in the vice here, the mexican people have done nothing wrong and are victims to their own shitty government as well as our previous administrations' apathy toward mexico's problems.

over 80% of mexico's exports are to the US, most of it is auto and cell phones. either way the mexican economy is paying for part of the wall, which is a very justifiable situation given that the mexican government has been openly taking advantage of us for 10 years, printing how2 cross border pamphlets and shit. remember, the mexican government has never once apologized for this.

also it's pretty sad that political rhetoric has caused people like you to speak on issues like they know anything about what they're talking about. like uh, ignoring the fact that you're completely dodging the fact that the wall and deportation is focused on violent/drug/gang criminal illegals, the innocent ones have done a lot more than just "pick our lettuce and run that dank taco truck down the street"

like i'm just saying having worked for years in the residential construction, plumbing, and landscaping industries, all of which are very well paying jobs that traditionally would serve as the beginnings of career paths for 20-somethings who are currently chronically unemployed/underemployed in today's market. all of these industries have been 100% displaced by illegals. some of these jobs paid more than what most STEM students would make 10 years out of college in the 90's. blue collar work used to be respected in this country.

here's a good example why hiring illegal plumbers isn't a good idea https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4b1_1483233942

my job was pretty much entirely fixing all the fucked up janky shit illegals did to homeowners who found out HEY YOU CAN'T SUE AN ILLEGAL MEXICAN after they fucked their house up and ran away with the money. every single time it was redoing some shitty work an illegal did, because in a lot of areas there just isn't anyone else to call. insuring construction workers is expensive. you can't compete if you hire citizens, it's not even about the employee's take home at all.

hell being in those industries i can tell you that by supporting illegal immigration you aren't bettering these peoples' lives at all. a lot of these jobs are dangerous.. roofing, logging etc. the way things currently are, an illegal immigrant isn't insured. that and taxes is where all the money's saved by the employer. in cases where those guys get injured and can't work, they're fucked for life. their family here and back home is fucked for life. people who counted on them. by closing the border, doing something with the people already here, booting out the known criminals and creating a better path to citizenship, you would be bettering these peoples' lives. like fuck it's like these retards have never read The Jungle. isn't that like, basic high school reading curriculum?

its disturbing to me that you would mischaracterize the situation so blatantly and in such a passe way, like you almost believe the crap you're posting or something :/
Uhh that'd be great... If you could uhh get it so real US American pplz could, put out an ad and do work with out going to jail for 50yrs.

Illegals are attractive because they are low liability and an illegal business is going to get them deported anyway.

Your idea is amazing. We still need to solve the problem of bureaucracy tho.

[Xaanka]

Uhh that'd be great... If you could uhh get it so real US American pplz could, put out an ad and do work with out going to jail for 50yrs.

Illegals are attractive because they are low liability and an illegal business is going to get them deported anyway.

Your idea is amazing. We still need to solve the problem of bureaucracy tho.

can you make this post again but in english and on less drugs? i can't really tell what you're trying to say.

yes illegal workers are used for only a few reasons, and you got most of them:
- low legal liability
- don't have to pay taxes on them
- don't have to insure them
illegals making under minimum wage is very rare, even unskilled day laborers make dead minimum $15-20 cash an hour in my area, min wage is a bit over $10 here.

don't think for a second these people are hired because they work well, and don't for a second believe that they're only doing jobs no one wants to do.

[maerilith]

can you make this post again but in english and on less drugs? i can't really tell what you're trying to say.

yes illegal workers are used for only a few reasons, and you got most of them:
- low legal liability
- don't have to pay taxes on them
- don't have to insure them
illegals making under minimum wage is very rare, even unskilled day laborers make $15-20 cash an hour in my area, min wage is a bit over $10 here.

don't think for a second these people are hired because they work well, and don't for a second believe that they're only doing jobs no one wants to do.

White ppl are criminalized. If I did the roofing job they wouldn't hire, (pretend I'm a sexy manbeast) cuz all that u said, even at 8$.

If I did it without or with a forged license, especially as a minority gay tranny I'd be begging for a commutation to my 35 yrs sentence.

I've got better risk/rewards things to do now that blue color work is only available to 100% disposable ppl.

No fucking chain links will fix that.

You're right. And totally on point with your industry experience.

But we need to make it possible / desirable to work legally. It's undesirable to millenials cuz ppl are tired of dieting in the name of Zog and unity.

Also there is a rl problem with millennial entitlement. But that's another thread. Kids, regardless of politics are dumb and weak. I blame WoW and a lack of proper discipline.

[Xaanka]

the KKK Is very much alive here in the south

not sure where you live bud

hahahhahahahhaa where the fuck do you live, the 1970's?

[Xaanka]

White ppl are criminalized. If I did the roofing job they wouldn't hire, (pretend I'm a sexy manbeast) cuz all that u said, even at 8$.

If I did it without or with a forged license, especially as a minority gay tranny I'd be begging for a commutation to my 35 yrs sentence.

I've got better risk/rewards things to do now that blue color work is only available to 100% disposable ppl.

No fucking chain links will fix that.

You're right.

it's not criminalized, but it certainly is highly disincentivised to hire american citizens. not sure where you got the white thing from, if anything this disproportionately affected black communities more than any other race which i'm sure hasn't helped any of those socioeconomic reasons liberals like to cite to excuse inner city crime statistics. like idk just saying more black dads would stick around if they had gainful employment and the kind of stable life these jobs used to provide americans.

not rly sure what a faggot tranny is doing that would be more rewarding than some of those jobs used to be though, i don't think you make $100k a year :/

[maerilith]

it's not criminalized, but it certainly is highly disincentivised to hire american citizens. not sure where you got the white thing from, if anything this disproportionately affected black communities more than any other race which i'm sure hasn't helped any of those socioeconomic reasons liberals like to cite to excuse inner city crime statistics. like idk just saying more black dads would stick around if they had gainful employment and the kind of stable life these jobs used to provide americans.

not rly sure what a faggot tranny is doing that would be more rewarding than some of those jobs used to be though, i don't think you make $100k a year :/

Phone tired hard. Know I pretty much agree here.

However. The whole issue is can ppl freely work in this country, nope. So we have a blackmarket of illegals who aren't held to the same standards.

Big corps get a wrist slap and golden parachute their execs into a new illegal machine.

Little ppls get thrown in life prison if cought working outside the system.

No one really cares what happens to illegals tho.

Uneducated unemployed unskilled ppl have to start somewhere. Doesn't matter what race they are. Bad parents and families are to blame. Not faggot trannies though. We are ruthless dedicated hard workers use to dealing with turdburglers. We play for keeps.

[maerilith]

hahahhahahahhaa where the fuck do you live, the 1970's?

Polk county is actually really fucking bad. Me and Troll probably could have ez sex with each other were so close.

[Xaanka]

By the way, liberals are now pointing out that when you raise taxes on (Mexican) companies, they pass the cost on to the consumer.

praise kek
4d chess
gg no RE

[maerilith]

By the way, liberals are now pointing out that when you raise taxes on (Mexican) companies, they pass the cost on to the consumer.

praise kek
4d chess
gg no RE

Well we need to help fund welfare in those countries too!

[Xaanka]

Phone tired hard. Know I pretty much agree here.

However. The whole issue is can ppl freely work in this country, nope. So we have a blackmarket of illegals who aren't held to the same standards.

Big corps get a wrist slap and golden parachute their execs into a new illegal machine.

Little ppls get thrown in life prison if cought working outside the system.

No one really cares what happens to illegals tho.

Uneducated unemployed unskilled ppl have to start somewhere. Doesn't matter what race they are. Bad parents and families are to blame. Not faggot trannies though. We are ruthless dedicated hard workers use to dealing with turdburglers. We play for keeps.

agreed th0, business regulations have also strangled the fuck out of job opportunities for young, unskilled workers. another good thing trump is doing is simplifying these regulations while maintaining the spirit & a similar level of protection to the employees, nation, environment etc.

like if you've ever seen what an "environmental regulation" looks like on paper and how shittily autistically written they are, it starts to make sense.

[maerilith]

agreed th0, business regulations have also strangled the fuck out of job opportunities for young, unskilled workers. another good thing trump is doing is simplifying these regulations while maintaining the spirit & a similar level of protection to the employees, nation, environment etc.

like if you've ever seen what an "environmental regulation" looks like on paper and how shittily autistically written they are, it starts to make sense.

I too am excited for this :)

[Xaanka]

Polk county is actually really fucking bad. Me and Troll probably could have ez sex with each other were so close.

you know it's a bunch of barely organized low iq hicks who are basically just following a meme at this point though right? like do you understand what the KKK used to be, the kind of imagery invoking their name brings up? what's out there right now is some weak shit. some dumb isolated racists with a couple fake leaders quite openly planted by the CIA to keep eyes on the few who could actually be dangerous.

like idk i guess you really have nothing to compare to living in bumfuck in current year. "really fucking bad" would be like, street gangs in oakland, not a few dumbasses spraypainting DIE N----- on the church saturday night.

[maerilith]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DZOG%26amp%3Dtrue?client=ms-android-att-us
zog
Zionest occupied government. It is no conspiracy and not a racist term. Especially when white people use it, because first off, "jews" are not a race. They arent even jews. They call themselves a race trying to claim that they are the lost tribes of Isreal, when in fact if any european could trace their family back that far if they could go back that far. These false jews are only russians who migrated to Isreal to kill all the non-jews, much worse than the holocaust. But we never hear about those people, only the holocaust that the rothschilds(jews) fiananced.

That is in fact because of ZOG. Jews own every media source in america. Thats why you never hear an intellegent person on tv speaking out against these false jews. You never hear about how They owned all the slave boats, but only this garbage they spew after they basically re-wrote every aspect of history. Jews hate blacks, but preach how we (we meaning non-jew whites and blacks) should love each other and mix, either that or be homosexuals, or get sterilized and go adopt african babies like the actors on tv. All the while they really feel like kramer(jew) about blacks. and we cant forget Jerry Heller the jew behind gangster rap.

Basically our zog commits terrible acts out of greed, while giving non-jew whites crumbs and letting them take the blame for it.
guy 1: Isaac da costa was a jew in charleston in the 1700's.
guy 2: I thought southern rednecks hated jews.
guy 1: They do, because they could barely make any money with the jews high prices on slaves. Most of the plantation owners ended up broke, and the jews made all the money just like they do on every injustice.
guy 2: Then what? the zog just uses their media to spew their propaganda and lies?
guy 1: yep.
by sawed off gangsta April 26, 2007


Trump and Bannon cucking Pence and Price.

[maerilith]

you know it's a bunch of barely organized low iq hicks who are basically just following a meme at this point though right? like do you understand what the KKK used to be, the kind of imagery invoking their name brings up? what's out there right now is some weak shit. some dumb isolated racists with a couple fake leaders quite openly planted by the CIA to keep eyes on the few who could actually be dangerous.

like idk i guess you really have nothing to compare to living in bumfuck in current year. "really fucking bad" would be like, street gangs in oakland, not a few dumbasses spraypainting DIE N----- on the church saturday night.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DZOG%26amp%3Dtrue?client=ms-android-att-us
zog
Zionest occupied government. It is no conspiracy and not a racist term. Especially when white people use it, because first off, "jews" are not a race. They arent even jews. They call themselves a race trying to claim that they are the lost tribes of Isreal, when in fact if any european could trace their family back that far if they could go back that far. These false jews are only russians who migrated to Isreal to kill all the non-jews, much worse than the holocaust. But we never hear about those people, only the holocaust that the rothschilds(jews) fiananced.

That is in fact because of ZOG. Jews own every media source in america. Thats why you never hear an intellegent person on tv speaking out against these false jews. You never hear about how They owned all the slave boats, but only this garbage they spew after they basically re-wrote every aspect of history. Jews hate blacks, but preach how we (we meaning non-jew whites and blacks) should love each other and mix, either that or be homosexuals, or get sterilized and go adopt african babies like the actors on tv. All the while they really feel like kramer(jew) about blacks. and we cant forget Jerry Heller the jew behind gangster rap.

Basically our zog commits terrible acts out of greed, while giving non-jew whites crumbs and letting them take the blame for it.
guy 1: Isaac da costa was a jew in charleston in the 1700's.
guy 2: I thought southern rednecks hated jews.
guy 1: They do, because they could barely make any money with the jews high prices on slaves. Most of the plantation owners ended up broke, and the jews made all the money just like they do on every injustice.
guy 2: Then what? the zog just uses their media to spew their propaganda and lies?
guy 1: yep.
by sawed off gangsta April 26, 2007


Trump and Bannon cucking Pence and Price.

Go talk to your pastor about blaiming others for your crimes.

Gangs in Oakland zog zog zog.

What happened to gang members taking personal responsibility... On wait zog

[maerilith]

The plan I saw was to tax Mexican American workers who are sending money back to Mexico. It is a very real thing that workers come to the USA and then send money back to Mexico. Mexicos biggest export is actually labor to the USA, it accounts for something like 25billion dollars per year. You tax this sh!t 20% and it pays for the wall while simultaneously sending Mexico into deep recession. (lul).

Good luck. Doubt ZOG Trump and ZOG Bannon will do anything but put healthcare and abortion and rape back to the middle ages. Gangs in Oakland will enjoy the chaos that ensues.

[maerilith]

Am I the only person annoyed by ZOGtards who keep telling us to have faith in ZOG puppet Trump?

That if we all just have faith and support ZOG we'll be fine.

Just believe hard enough with us!

The Dark Elves of Neriak think that if we hate hard enough we'll cum never-ending fountains of blueberry sauce.

Basically retards have devolved politics into who's ZoG is bigger and badder.

Dumbledores thinking they somehow resisted being manipulated...by assholes shitlords and want to pretend they're on the self righteous high road.

It's way beyond me.

[maerilith]

ZOG is the emperor of the Dark Dragons and the jailor of Tyr - this has been well documented. His right hand man (Jade) even attempted to manipulate time using the Time Key in the tower above the town of Clock, but his efforts ultimately backfired and lead to Nina unlocking her ability to turn into the Great Bird that helped assault the floating fortress of Scandene. ZOG was defeated with the help of a Tuneland maestro who was able to weaponize a song that he wrote (by putting it into a bottle) that was fatal to Dragons. The Hero then used his final form to expose Tyr as a demon and saved the world from annihilation.

So good, OC or copypasta?

[maerilith]

So good, OC or copypasta?

Damn, I think you wrote some sick OC actually.

Syder73

Such amazing.

[Jorgam]

I honestly can't decide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV9MfCZBkVM

This is why Hillary and Bernie had to lose. These psychopaths that voted for them would have been empowered and that could not be allowed.

God bless the defeat of Hillary Clinton to the forces of sanity and reason!

[maerilith]

This is why Hillary and Bernie had to lose. These psychopaths that voted for them would have been empowered and that could not be allowed.

God bless the defeat of Hillary Clinton to the forces of sanity and reason!

You sound scared. Can't handle being cucked by fake news?

[Jorgam]

You sound scared. Can't handle being cucked by fake news?

You sound scared. Can't handle life with the genetics you were given at birth?

[maerilith]

You sound scared. Can't handle life with the genetics you were given at birth?

My genetics are gr8.

I'm angry.

Anger != fear.

Anger is a very helpful emotion destroying ppl like u.

[bigjerry]

zogs your dog when u a tranny hog

[maerilith]

zogs your dog when u a tranny hog

Probably, but hey, I'm not the victim here :D *hearty transvestite chuckles*

[entruil]

Myria is the cause of the original split between the Light and Dark Dragon clans, both of which feuded over her power. A legendary hero managed to imprison Myria within a tower and seal her away with six keys. In the original Breath of Fire, the Dark Dragons conspire to reassemble the keys and release her. Even though the leader of the Dark Dragons, Zog, was eventually defeated, his usurper, Jade, successfully resurrects her.

Myria stationed herself on the flying fortress Obelisk, flying high above what used to be Scande (the capital of the Dark Dragon Empire). Ryu and his companions storm the fortress, defeat Jade, and encounter Myria. Before the party fights her, she asks if they have a wish. The game slightly alternates into two endings afterwards:

If Ryu managed to learn all of his Dragon spells (including Agni), Sara will communicate with him telepathically and insist on using the said power. Agni's attack reveals Myria's true snake-like form, and the party defeats her once and for all. With her defeat, the world begins to rebuild.

If Ryu didn't obtain the Agni spell, then the party fights Myria in her human form. They defeat her, however, as soon as they leave, Myria appears to still be alive...

just thought i'd throw that out there... good night.

[maerilith]

I like Spyder73's story wayyyy better, I think it comes from the heart and soul.

I played a little bit of those games, good games :D

[bigjerry]

Straight off the dome homie

EDIT: I have beaten BoF and BoF2 probably 10+ times each - not kidding or exaggerating

classic games. bof one really got me woke early to zog. that's how come I can detect faked videos like this one so good.

[Topgunben]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/politics/mexico-wall-tax-trump.html?referer=http://m.facebook.com

An interesting read but seems completely flawed if it ever is enacted.

In short it says Mexico won't pay for the wall, it would be companies that want their products shipped from Mexico to America will pay a 20% tax, thus American companies will pay for the wall.

Mind you I think the wall idea is a completely dumb, we could build a Bullet train or something revolutionary for The American way of life with that money instead of a crappy wall to keep people from picking our lettuce for dirt cheap.

America doesnt really need a bullet train or even something revolutionary (im also not saying those are bad).

We need more backbone and common sense. We need to enforce the laws we have, and get rid of the laws we dont need. We need to stop encouraging people to live off the system and instead participate in growing our economy.

Regarding the wall, we have so many Mexicans pouring into our country that end up taking jobs from, or driving down wages for people that already live here. There has been a false argument that "Americans just dont want to do those type of jobs". That is complete nonsense. Americans dont want to do those types of jobs for $5.50 an hour. However, Mexicans will, and do send much of that money back to their families in Mexico.

We also have 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in our country, undocumented i might add. We simply dont know who the hell is coming in here. That is a huge, and i mean HUGE problem. We need to secure our border and than fix illegal immigration. I personally dont feel it right to send back illegals, especially families, but i do think this illegal mass immigration BS needs to stop right now.

At first I thought trump was a moron, and still sometimes i cringe at the crap that comes out of his mouth. But so far that orange faced baboon has done so much damn good for this country i cant believe it. He said we are going to win so much that we are going to be sick of winning. I am starting to believe that is true.

America First

[bigjerry]

America doesnt really need a bullet train or even something revolutionary (im also not saying those are bad).

We need more backbone and common sense. We need to enforce the laws we have, and get rid of the laws we dont need. We need to stop encouraging people to live off the system and instead participate in growing our economy.

Regarding the wall, we have so many Mexicans pouring into our country that end up taking jobs from, or driving down wages for people that already live here. There has been a false argument that "Americans just dont want to do those type of jobs". That is complete nonsense. Americans dont want to do those types of jobs for $5.50 an hour. However, Mexicans will, and do send much of that money back to their families in Mexico.

We also have 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in our country, undocumented i might add. We simply dont know who the hell is coming in here. That is a huge, and i mean HUGE problem. We need to secure our border and than fix illegal immigration. I personally dont feel it right to send back illegals, especially families, but i do think this illegal mass immigration BS needs to stop right now.

At first I thought trump was a moron, and still sometimes i cringe at the crap that comes out of his mouth. But so far that orange faced baboon has done so much damn good for this country i cant believe it. He said we are going to win so much that we are going to be sick of winning. I am starting to believe that is true.

America First

agreed. would read again

[maerilith]

My 60 cleric was named Miria on R99 and when I gave her to Brennard and Max the entire power structure of the server changed. I feel directly responsible for a lot of the Amazing R99 PvP and guilds that followed. I also keep coming back over and over. I can't be slain by mortals. One of the reasons for my transformation to my final form is because of the change and rise of the earths kundalini. A female serpentine energy represented as a great snake in many myths. The snake is also the sign of the healer, which is my spiritual talent.

Coincidence, I think not. Synchronicity, yes.

[Fasttimes]

America doesnt really need a bullet train or even something revolutionary (im also not saying those are bad).

We need more backbone and common sense. We need to enforce the laws we have, and get rid of the laws we dont need. We need to stop encouraging people to live off the system and instead participate in growing our economy.

Regarding the wall, we have so many Mexicans pouring into our country that end up taking jobs from, or driving down wages for people that already live here. There has been a false argument that "Americans just dont want to do those type of jobs". That is complete nonsense. Americans dont want to do those types of jobs for $5.50 an hour. However, Mexicans will, and do send much of that money back to their families in Mexico.

We also have 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in our country, undocumented i might add. We simply dont know who the hell is coming in here. That is a huge, and i mean HUGE problem. We need to secure our border and than fix illegal immigration. I personally dont feel it right to send back illegals, especially families, but i do think this illegal mass immigration BS needs to stop right now.

At first I thought trump was a moron, and still sometimes i cringe at the crap that comes out of his mouth. But so far that orange faced baboon has done so much damn good for this country i cant believe it. He said we are going to win so much that we are going to be sick of winning. I am starting to believe that is true.

America First

Preach. Now take the 20-30 million illegals and count the us born babies by them and think about all the wic and ebt we are paying for.

[maerilith]

Nice read.

How come states don't step up and make their borders more sovereign. I get that it's "the feds job" but they've been failing hard for so long. What is also wrong with some redundancy at the state level? Problems with military?

Anyway I'm all for being able to participate and kick ass in America's economy as a disillusioned American and for other Americans to be super successful. And for secure borders.

If Trump can deliver on that without putting me down or throwing me to the wolves, I'm all for that. I don't want anything extra, or any free shit, I just don't want to continue to be treated as an enemy by the cowards who aren't able to fix their own inadequacy problems.

That will destroy and divide us. Cuz, then there won't be a fucking point if we are killing Americans because "muh rights". And believe me, there's a lot of maeriliths that just don't give a fuck cuz we are being fucked constantly, by everyone.

[Fasttimes]

Nice read.

How come states don't step up and make their borders more sovereign. I get that it's "the feds job" but they've been failing hard for so long. What is also wrong with some redundancy at the state level? Problems with military?

Anyway I'm all for being able to participate and kick ass in America's economy as a disillusioned American and for other Americans to be super successful. And for secure borders.

If Trump can deliver on that without putting me down or throwing me to the wolves, I'm all for that. I don't want anything extra, or any free shit, I just don't want to continue to be treated as an enemy by the cowards who aren't able to fix their own inadequacy problems.

Social issues aside all I want is stabilty fiscally and to quit paying billions in aid and fix our own damn issues. Social issues is a whole nother post. Fiscal issues is my primary concern.

[maerilith]

Social issues aside all I want is stabilty fiscally and to quit paying billions in aid and fix our own damn issues. Social issues is a whole nother post. Fiscal issues is my primary concern.

Agreed. Social issues shouldn't be the government's problem though. We can handle that 1 on 1 works good. But yeah. Tired of identity being more important than economy and sanity and, law. We're on to something good here.

[bigjerry]

server was a corpse before anyone got lvl 60. your a cuck

[maerilith]

server was a corpse before anyone got lvl 60. your a cuck

I played a ton b4 than noob. Meaning while I worked Mira's magic, that was all me. 100%

Server was best in classic, vanilla though for real. Lots of PvP and fun times grouping and zerging.

That's why at 60 I retired and let the sandbox play itself out. I laid some of those first buckets of sand. Had huge impact. Even after it rained pebbles my waves where still rollin.

[Fasttimes]

Agreed. Social issues shouldn't be the government's problem though. We can handle that 1 on 1 works good. But yeah. Tired of identity being more important than economy and sanity and, law. We're on to something good here.

I'm glad your able to separate them. If people did more of that instead of exploding one way or the other shit would get done.

[maerilith]

I'm glad your able to separate them. If people did more of that instead of exploding one way or the other shit would get done.

Yeah. I see your point. I feel a little more confident we can make ...America... Great...errr...

>.>

[Fasttimes]

Yeah. I see your point. I feel a little more confident we can make ...America... Great...errr...

>.>

I blame a lot of it on extreme news on both sides stirring up shit. I live in Alabama and I'm mixed Asian and white. Socially I'm very moderate if not liberal. However when you see daily the abuse of welfare system it makes you cringe. A lot of people down here aren't bigots and extreme right. They are stuggling middle class that is wondering why my tax dollars aren't going to better things like education or roads or hell anything except people that shouldn't be here or abusing the system to do less and live on it instead of using it as a stepping stone to better yourself.

[maerilith]

I blame a lot of it on extreme news on both sides stirring up shit. I live in Alabama and I'm mixed Asian and white. Socially I'm very moderate if not liberal. However when you see daily the abuse of welfare system it makes you cringe. A lot of people down here aren't bigots and extreme right. They are stuggling middle class that is wondering why my tax dollars aren't going to better things like education or roads or hell anything except people that shouldn't be here or abusing the system to do less and live on it instead of using it as a stepping stone to better yourself.

I too live here, and would be ultraconservative but I simply blend in invisibly. I get to live because of invisibility cloaking. Because I'm not a political target. I'm overlooked, even though I've done no wrong. I'm part of the super mega mainstream monoculture. It's ok. I don't think I'd stand out if things where different anyway.

People here aren't bad, they also aren't ready to know the truth about me.

It's frustrating. I don't want to fight them.

[Fasttimes]

Social issues are harder to fix and some due to religion never will. Can accept and still disagree but some can't accept that. It's accept accept accept instead of understanding, they are two different things. For instance I believe that 2 same sex can have a "marriage" but a church shouldn't have to do the ceremony and shouldn't feel bad for denying it. You can have your rights without pushing out others rights. Try explaining that without someone exploding on you and calling you intolerant.

Edit for a useful comma I'm not the best with grammar and punctuation.

[maerilith]

Social issues are harder to fix and some due to religion never will. Can accept and still disagree but some can't accept that. It's accept accept accept instead of understanding they are two different things. For instance I believe that 2 same sex can have a "marriage" but a church shouldn't have to do the ceremony and shouldn't feel bad for denying it. You can have your rights without pushing out others rights. Try explaining that without someone exploding on you and calling you intolerant.

100%. I also never advocated or wanted to make gay marriage a thing.

I'm ok with individuals and religions and churches doing their own thing, gay or not.

I'm not ok with people who refuse to understand, or even talk hurting and bullying kids.

I'm ok with private businesses doing what they do.

I don't want federal taxes to go to promoting a social issue or discrimination. We can do that ourselves in our own communities. I also don't want states and the feds cracking down on municipalities doing things their way. We had a lot of state vs city vs corporate vs federal shenanigans making both sides escalate all the way to the supreme courts. Dems aren't solely responsible there. Clearly a few republicans took advantage of social issues themselves this time.

I want health care and what's available on the markets to be based on science and respectful of religion.

It's possible to do this without forcing people to choose a side.

A lot of the democratic party has used us though, it's corrupt as fuck. I did also grow up in an age where social issues aside, there was drugs, and crime, and corruption, and mafia, and gangs all manipulating politics.

My family cares about me. The ppl I see every day care, and we are just fine sitting across from each other at the local greasy spoon.

It's better now. I want that to stay better. Even if ppl want to go their own way.

Ideally.. hobby lobby can set its own rules, but if they buy federally subsidized health care, they have to follow federal rules, and should respect the people they hire. They have every right to discriminate, but no right to control peoples business, or abuse their corporate status to fund special interests attacking fair policies governing people who do not work for or belong to them.

Yet these things happen.

[Fasttimes]

People are just to easy to trigger. They don't want to listen and understand. If it's not their way it must be because they are intolorant or racist. People down here would be a lot more tolerant of every time they flipped on a channel they weren't made to feel bad for being white or relegious or whatever. Tolerance goes both ways. If you constantly play victim and I don't mean you personally just in general then people have a harder time adjusting. Take blm for instance. When you thrash local business, stop major highways, loot and pillage then go on tv and make people feel ashamed for being white it tends to not help the situation at all. I'm neither so I'm just outside perspective.

[maerilith]

People are just to easy to trigger. They don't want to listen and understand. If it's not their way it must be because they are intolorant or racist. People down here would be a lot more tolerant of every time they flipped on a channel they weren't made to feel bad for being white or relegious or whatever. Tolerance goes both ways. If you constantly play victim and I don't mean you personally just in general then people have a harder time adjusting. Take blm for instance. When you thrash local business, stop major highways, loot and pillage then go on tv and make people feel ashamed for being white it tends to not help the situation at all. I'm neither so I'm just outside perspective.

Yeah, liberal news media makes pity porn out of people. The Federalist outright attacks them. The cycle of victims and abusers continues. The liberal media needs to stop reporting only on the bad shit the Federalist does. They totally ignore this awesome church down here.... Because crime and hate and tragedy sells.

I hear you preaching, I agree, it goes both ways. People really need to check themselves before they wreck themselves.

We literally need a generation of leaders who aren't interested in picking sides, domination, control, winning at all costs. That shit has eroded our Nation into a bunch of " me toos". How does a good system get designed, implemented, and managed for the good of our country and future generations.

I can't exactly fault Republicans here, they are better about it then the dems. However, we've been slowly dividing since our founding I guess... Swinging ever further left and right with more and more force.

To me there's a solution in there in figuring out what is influencing and adding to that momentum, and bringing it up in politics.

[Pokesan]

Actively crippling the economy of a country whose people you're trying to keep from emigrating. Fucking brilliant.

[bigjerry]

Actively crippling the economy of a country whose people you're trying to keep from emigrating. Fucking brilliant.

mad.

hellfire-equipped drone swarms mean u don't have to submit your national sovereignty to the market forces at work in some foreign peasant shithole. ie kneecapping them gives u negotiating leverage, art of the deal, zero downside. so whats the deal?

u brown my dude?

[Fasttimes]

Actively crippling the economy of a country whose people you're trying to keep from emigrating. Fucking brilliant.

If they can't live without our millions in aid and working illegalally getting paid in cash while using wic and ebt and mailing the cash back. Then yes cut them off and let them cripple I care about my country they should too.

[maerilith]

If they can't live without our millions in aid and working illegalally getting paid in cash while using wic and ebt and mailing the cash back. Then yes cut them off and let them cripple I care about my country they should too.
I agree fasttimes.

@pokesan
In the end, other markets and economies need to sort themselves out, unless we just govern them directly. Or we are just wasting effort fighting the inevitability of human behavior without providing a real solution. That does give some ppl on both sides riches and power, it's doomed to implode though. Enabling the constant jockeying for some kind of effective compromise between both strategies as people use it to vie for the top of the pyramid is completely insane and irrational.

America needs to make a definitive choice here and see it through until the Mexico can come to the table as a developed nation, or be rebuilt as an occupied territory(s). The occupation is not efficient, is expensive, and risky. We'd be better off controlling our trade and border and containing the problem militarily at this point.

It is also amoral to engage in an occupation with no chance of success. It will prolong the strife for both the aggressor and target. Our goal isn't to hurt them through attrition while simultaneously bleeding ourselves out.

They will change faster if they aren't fed. I think it's ok if we let Mexico and other nations duke it out if we pull out interests. We do need to be careful of other global powers though. Can't let China get a foothold in south America.

All bleeding eventually stops. We can't toss them bandaids either. They will just have enough time to produce more blood cells and keep bleeding. Consuming IV fluids and bandages until there's none left. I would triage them, they are a multiple times failed state, they got bled by cartels.

If our country or economy was stable and strong and could use the people, it would be prudent to legally immigrate people who want to be American and don't want little Mexico or to leach on, as they do sending our currency back.

That really does need to stop.

[Pokesan]

If they can't live without our millions in aid and working illegalally getting paid in cash while using wic and ebt and mailing the cash back. Then yes cut them off and let them cripple I care about my country they should too.

what to do about the sharply increased border crossings? do you find "hellfire drone swarms" a palatable solution?

[Fasttimes]

I don't have the solution I'm not blind enough to ignore the problem tho. Catch and release isn't the solution either.

[bigjerry]

a DMZ and lethal force are literally the best option. if death from illegal crossing were 100% guaranteed overall suffering and life lost would be reduced and the objective achieved.

of course the political will does not exist but it is by far the best solution.

[Pokesan]

I don't have the solution I'm not blind enough to ignore the problem tho. Catch and release isn't the solution either.

forcing mexico to pay for our wall CREATES a migrant crisis by ruining their economy.

[Fasttimes]

There economy is ruins already. Still doesn't negate the fact that we need to secure ourselves and focus on us.

[Pokesan]

a DMZ and lethal force are literally the best option. if death from illegal crossing were 100% guaranteed overall suffering and life lost would be reduced and the objective achieved.

of course the political will does not exist but it is by far the best solution.

brutal but you do at least understand and accept the consequences of your beliefs!

[Pokesan]

There economy is ruins already. Still doesn't negate the fact that we need to secure ourselves and focus on us.

most illegals get here by overstaying visa, not border hopping. pointless wall.

[bigjerry]

forcing mexico to pay for our wall CREATES a migrant crisis by ruining their economy.

it creates a "migrant crisis" for foreigners and nations that are too politically soft to protect their own existence. For Trump US it creates a useful target practice scenario for drone pilots and pilot/aerial image analysis AI experimentation, and development impetus for cheaply surveilling massive amounts of frontier -- just what we need to defend and loot from middle eastern oil wells at maximum profit.