******Official politics thread ******

[AzzarTheGod]

Trump's fate depends on the Democratic Nominee,

At least that's how I see it at this point. A lot can happen in 2 years.

I doubt a big 3rd party is going to be started yet...that might be the only way to get rid of the Corporate Democrats.

A Corporate Democrat is not going to win on a platform of shaming Trump about immigration.

hard top we done did that


we been had tea party

3rd party

what fed do?

they sicked 14 gov agencies on the founders of the tea party.











u will


nevaaaaaaa


have a 3rd party in the usa.

evaaaaaaa






















say it w me


u will nevaaaaaa

have 3rd party

in the usa



































u stupid ass cuck

[AzzarTheGod]

denmark doesn't have UBI and has never tried UBI lol

you're the worst poster

720 dips


JurisDictum butthole opens up shit words come out


zodium on the call

[JurisDictum]

hard top we done did that


we been had tea party

3rd party

what fed do?

they sicked 14 gov agencies on the founders of the tea party.


u will


nevaaaaaaa


have a 3rd party in the usa.

evaaaaaaa






















say it w me


u will nevaaaaaa

have 3rd party

in the usa



















u stupid ass cuck

I agree we won't have a 3 party- system. It's not necessarily true Dems can't possibly be replaced.

[Patriam1066]

UBI is a moral issue. It isn’t enough to live on, but might help people afford school and health care. I honestly don’t care about how irrational UBI is or balancing the budget, but I’m a firm believer in both.

Work is becoming increasingly demeaning and trivial. The culture has to shift back towards some other source of meaning (jesus Christ). If all of you could just see God as a mascot presenting a certain value system, maybe you’d understand. Regardless, life expectancy is dropping, automation is here, and drugs and other worthless and unhealthy distractions abound. I don’t hold out hope that people will realize that North European Protestant society was orders of magnitude better than any other culture in human history, but I do hope y’all start considering issues pertaining to quality of life as opposed to class, income, and GDP per capita.

Also, Turkey officially fell today. That’s a huge tragedy for all Muslims and middle easterners. Izmir was a favorite vacation spot for my wife and I when our kids were much younger. We wanted them to experience the Middle East without the headscarves and braindeads. Oh well, Islam leaves no room for independent thought and this just confirms it

[Patriam1066]

Denmark and Finland have something in common. Figure it out

[Irulan]

Zodium could easily dom me.

[JurisDictum]

Turkey proves that Islam has a problem. It's not all just US arrogance and explaing. That's how I see it at least.

People say Islam needs a reformation...they had their reformation -- they went the other way. Wahhabism has replaced traditional Islam which allowed the Ottom Empire to flourish in its day.

Another problem we can chalk up to the legacy of colonialism.

[JurisDictum]

He was probably right shame me for not checking which god damn northern socialist country I was talking about.

[Patriam1066]

Islam is very rigid about adhering to the original Arabic text. I hated the religion growing up because we read poems and the Shahnameh in Farsi, but had to read the Quran in Arabic. Admittedly, Baha’is do that dumb shit as well, but I could never understand how I’m supposed to read the religion of another tribe in their language. I’m probably the most tribal human on earth though so that’s just me. As a philosophical point, the insistence on a literal interpretation of the original Arabic always leads back to Wahhabism, salafism, the Taliban, ISIS, deobandism, Velayat e faqih, etc

[Wonkie]

Denmark and Finland have something in common. Figure it out

fins are slavs tho

[JurisDictum]

Speaking of stuff to be jealous of Northern Europe about, were running out of fish. (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-imported-more-seafood-2017-prior-141246717--finance.html)

The U.S. imported more than a half billion dollars' worth of cod in 2017. That number has grown by more than $100 million since 2014, with fish that once came from Massachusetts now coming from places like Iceland and Norway.

This is a big deal to me, because cod is extremely healthy and cheap ATM...Its going to suck if the price sky rockets....

Stop eating so much fish and chips you fat fucks. Cod is supposed to be for slim, health conscious people.

[Patriam1066]

Is cod low mercury? I eat Salmon and sardines

[JurisDictum]

Is cod low mercury? I eat Salmon and sardines

Cod is pretty low. But you might want to keep it at twice a week.

10064

https://www.verywellfit.com/the-best-types-of-fish-for-health-2223830

Sometimes I wonder if its just the other meat industries fanning the flames of fear over mercury poisoning. I still wouldn't eat Swordfish every night.

[DinoTriz]

Speaking of stuff to be jealous of Northern Europe about, were running out of fish. (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-imported-more-seafood-2017-prior-141246717--finance.html)



This is a big deal to me, because cod is extremely healthy and cheap ATM...Its going to suck if the price sky rockets....

Stop eating so much fish and chips you fat fucks. Cod is supposed to be for slim, health conscious people.

What we need is fish socialism.

[Wonkie]

What we need is fish socialism.

Posadism is the one true path

[skarlorn]

sardines r woke.

i am a big sea food eater fuck off im going to eat my good ol sea food okay thank you bye bye

[Wonkie]

i don't think so. last i knew he was danish. skim says american written.

let's naturalize him anyway. male but might be blonde?

UPDATE: it's from some fat bitch "doctor" on twitter. zodium knows - slam whale, holy grail

sardines r woke.

i am a big sea food eater fuck off im going to eat my good ol sea food okay thank you bye bye

i have some sardines in my cupboard but don't feel dadly enough to consume them. they've been haunting me for months.

[AzzarTheGod]

asses we done fk'd that

[skarlorn]

UPDATE: it's from some fat bitch "doctor" on twitter. zodium knows - slam whale, holy grail



i have some sardines in my cupboard but don't feel dadly enough to consume them. they've been haunting me for months.
Yeah it's a dad snack for sure. My dad taught me the way with Tabasco str8 outta can. I prefer it with lemon and olive oil and salt and pepper. But he's just a Texan lawyer and I'm a baka weeb tsundere autist

[AzzarTheGod]

UBI is a moral issue. It isn’t enough to live on, but might help people afford school and health care. I honestly don’t care about how irrational UBI is or balancing the budget, but I’m a firm believer in both.

Work is becoming increasingly demeaning and trivial. The culture has to shift back towards some other source of meaning (jesus Christ). If all of you could just see God as a mascot presenting a certain value system, maybe you’d understand. Regardless, life expectancy is dropping, automation is here, and drugs and other worthless and unhealthy distractions abound. I don’t hold out hope that people will realize that North European Protestant society was orders of magnitude better than any other culture in human history, but I do hope y’all start considering issues pertaining to quality of life as opposed to class, income, and GDP per capita.

Also, Turkey officially fell today. That’s a huge tragedy for all Muslims and middle easterners. Izmir was a favorite vacation spot for my wife and I when our kids were much younger. We wanted them to experience the Middle East without the headscarves and braindeads. Oh well, Islam leaves no room for independent thought and this just confirms it



1 woke



hold uppppp


2 wokes



hoolllld up


3 wokes.


issa hat trick

[Ahldagor]

Thompson's proving to be right from an ESPN piece after 9/11. Yikes.

[zodium]

It was Finland

*does all my research on reddit*

[DinoTriz]

*does all my research on reddit*

If I discuss politics on reddit, I want civil war instantly.

I want to feel the warm blood of my fellow countryman flow down my hands as I tear their throat out and masturbate to their last gasps of air.

I want them to suffer slowly.

...I don't like Reddit.

[mickmoranis]

Can someone list me 3 things Sarah Sanders has done to make her deserve to be shunned by society?

[DinoTriz]

Can someone list me 3 things Sarah Sanders has done to make her deserve to be shunned by society?

1. Conservative woman

2. Conservative woman

3. Conservative woman

If you're a woman, black, or gay AND a Conservative...you're fucked.

It's the nature of the game, man. Conservatives are now the "Untermensch".

Just be happy they don't make us wear little yellow patches.

[mickmoranis]

could dino be onto something? (for the record they let this black guy slide but I agree with you ask Condoleezza or Powel about it)

https://i.imgur.com/J3MfIsK.jpg

Meanwhile the free world welcomes the fall of a 65 year long communist dictatorship, jobs are up, illegal immigration is down, bernie's trade policies are being enacted, less soldiers die in battle than in any previous administration..

INFACT the only overwhelming opinion that trump is wrong stems specifically from social media issues.

Call me when the word twitter is written into our constitution please.

https://i.imgur.com/raGXICK.png

[Irulan]

Could be that Sarah is a really blatently dishonest and inflammatory sock puppet just like like her boss.

The deal with our previous politicians is that yeah, they lied, blatantly, but they did it with the grace of a songbird or Aes Sedai. And yeah they didn't draw the same media attention or drama. You can't blame the media 100% for this because Trumps administration draws attention deliberately to itself and is dramatic.

Sarah and Trump are like Beavis and Butthead. Women do a fair bit of peer shaming of crude behavior. Female standards of crude behavior extends to a 4D chess level far beyond crude words and gestures. So it's easy for these catty standards of not saying something "just right" to apply to one of the most visible 4/10s in America. (Or not saying something, have you ever been dinged for not saying or doing something you didn't bother to ask about or worry over?)

I have to give Sarah credit for being a really big public relations woman who isn't appealing to the 10/10 weight and beauty standards.

But otherwise she reminds the rest of us of Kim Davis with a really dirty mouth and no scruples.

Normal psychopaths like to pretend we're cool and normal. If you worked in an all girl environment you'd understand fat shaming at the next level. Also this administration supports Hobby Lobby, but not Planned Parenthood... So lol.

Oh, yeah, there's that wife beater Sarah defended and doubled down on.

Hope this helps.

[zodium]

it owns that conservatives thought they were going to have a resurgence and it's just making all their opponents unite and return to full scale war footing after basically just chilling out like 40 years

[zodium]

maybe we can finally get back to real conservatism instead of this bullshit libertarian american project that's infected everything for the past 15 years

e: you know what, since reagan. ever since a senile moron moviestar could be a conservative leader, it's been downhill. hard.

[Irulan]

Yeah it's ok to be a monster OR fat. It is NOT OK to be fat AND a monster.

[Irulan]

I love your smily sunshine Zodium.

[JurisDictum]

*does all my research on reddit*

Capitalisms Compared: Welfare, Work, and Business by John R. Bowman (https://www.amazon.com/Capitalisms-Compared-Welfare-Work-Business/dp/145225902X?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffnt-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=145225902X)

Was the main book I read about welfare most recently.

Sweden is the country they use to exemplify Northern European style capitalism. Where capitalism is blended with socialist principals.

[zodium]

I love your smily sunshine Zodium.

happysun is a very good sun who brings happiness where ever he goes :o

[JurisDictum]

Maybe a $10 an hour job and shit education would wipe that smile your face.

[zodium]

nah

[zodium]

anyone who's interacted with me for extended periods knows the smile cannot be wiped off my face :o

[Wonkie]

strongly agree w feeding conservatives to lions

[Irulan]

Bossie then went on to note how former CIA director Michael Hayden compared the child detention centers for migrant children to Auschwitz. “Yeah, that liberal Michael Hayden,” Payne responded sarcastically. “You are out of your cotton-picking mind!” Bossie went on to say for some reason. Payne immediately reacted. “Cotton-picking mind?” Payne said, seemingly shocked at what he just heard. “Brother, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, I got some relatives who picked cotton, okay?”


/pras Fox News! Lol. Jesus.

[Irulan]

How is the former CIA director a liberal anyway? How could something like this ever happen? What next? A liberal Director of Homeland Security? Or a liberal Secretary of Defense? What is this world coming to. How does a liberal even get promoted? Much less an education and credentials?

[Raavak]

Suck rods?

[Irulan]

Michael Vincent Hayden (born March 17, 1945) is a retired United States Air Force four-star general.


He's got 41 years of distinguished service and worked for Bush.

Support our troops!

[JurisDictum]

We need to ditch the label "Liberal" to describe leftists. Calling them liberals was Reagan's handlers' idea -- because his election was about shit like crime, abortion, and "family values."

But it was stupid and anti-intellectual considering that liberal meant libertarian through all of history and all over the world until Saint Reagan.

[Irulan]

Actually Hayden is probably an Illuminati or Mason or something. And headed the NSA and defended stuff like Carnivore being legal. Buttt.

Lol.

Don't get trolled Reav. Get woke. I'm just bored. Out of my fucking mind.

God bless.

[Wonkie]

We need to ditch the label "Liberal" to describe leftists. Calling them liberals was Reagan's handlers' idea -- because his election was about shit like crime, abortion, and "family values."

But it was stupid and anti-intellectual considering that liberal meant libertarian through all of history and all over the world until Saint Reagan.

conservative is an ableist dogwhistle(i am implying that they're retarded :))

[zodium]

american youth were statistically conservative basically up until President Sundown redefined conservative away from its sensible, universally appealing Bismarckian roots to instead mean a geriatric grifter brazenly stealing from he own children

[DinoTriz]

We need to ditch the label "Liberal" to describe leftists.

So true.

Today's Progressives are abandoning Liberal principles and moving toward authoritarian and totalitarian ideas.

Let me rephrase that. They are letting their extreme fringe members push them in that direction.

Make Democrats Liberal Again.

[zodium]

yeah y'all gonna be guillotined if you don't quit the libertarian "conservative" shit real soon

there's a reason (euro) conservatives came up with the welfare thing in the first place my dudes, and it's not just our intrinsic moral superiority over the primitive and stunted american mind

[DinoTriz]

yeah y'all gonna be guillotined if you don't quit the libertarian "conservative" shit real soon

there's a reason (euro) conservatives came up with the welfare thing in the first place my dudes, and it's not just our intrinsic moral superiority over the primitive and stunted american mind

Your conservatives have no backbone.

[zodium]

you'll learn

[zodium]

i mean not you personally because you won't have a head, but your children or ideological successors will wise up to how the world really works

again, not a leftist, just telling you how it'll play out :o

[skarlorn]

ubi needs to happen b/c most ppl r 2 stupid to compete with mechanized intelligence created by smart ppl

[Patriam1066]

When y’all gave up on God and didn’t address meaning in life, “work” filled the void. UBI is an acknowledgement that Aryan culture must again pave the way for the subhumans of this planet in terms of innovating what comes next

Nuke portugal

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/xWmO7Ap.gif skarlorn and holesum here, 2 ppl thinking like true conservatives

Patriam tho my man you're just getting high off your own supply. peddle that shit to the proles, don't actually believe it lol

[DinoTriz]

i mean not you personally because you won't have a head, but your children or ideological successors will wise up to how the world really works

again, not a leftist, just telling you how it'll play out :o

Europeans are weak and afraid.

I welcome any Leftist if they want to come and guillotine me.

I'll wait until they learn how to use a hammer and try and build one. I'll be patiently waiting with my rifle.

Our Leftists know better.

[skarlorn]

sorry i dedicate my life in service of god every day lol get FUCKED on patriam

(in the name of Lord)

[zodium]

Europeans are weak and afraid.

I welcome any Leftist if they want to come and guillotine me.

I'll wait until they learn how to use a hammer and try and build one. I'll be patiently waiting with my rifle.

Our Leftists know better.

this time will be different yeah

[JurisDictum]

Jesus looked a lot more Jewy than that avatar portrait, Skarlorn.

[Wonkie]

ronaldos song will put an end to the aryan host

[DinoTriz]

this time will be different yeah

lol sure

[Irulan]

Skarlorn's portrait is kinda innacurate.

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/xWmO7Ap.gif skarlorn and holesum here, 2 ppl thinking like true conservatives

Patriam tho my man you're just getting high off your own supply. peddle that shit to the proles, don't actually believe it lol

I definitely believe in UBI bud

[LulzSect©]

Skarlorn's portrait is kinda innacurate.

https://i.imgur.com/kXfH78i.jpg

[JurisDictum]

True conservatives want to preserve society as it is. By definition at least. It's regressive if you want to return to a previous golden era.

Now in reality, its hard to find conservatives that don't want to change a few things for the better (or what they think is better) or roll certain things back. Still, all over the world there are people that want to "conserve" the way society looks like ATM -- and we call that conservative.

Conservatism is not the answer at this particular point in time in America. From what I can tell. Society is not doing great -- and theres some busy boddies trying to fuck up all the good shit that is going on.

The only people that disagree with me on this are well off people or children from well families that have a bright future ahead of them. Why would they want to change anything?

But that's only like 20% of Republicans. The other 80% have a bunch of fear of Dems -- so they vote against that. Or they think its time to return to a golden era -- and they have ideas on how to do that. Some of them are really progressives with stupid anti-marxist ideas -- but think in terms of "how can we improve this existing mess?"

In Germany -- conservatives are those that wanted to protect things like the traditional family against market forces...In America...conservatives are loaded with all these John Locke inspired libertarian ideas...so that can't see what is fucking obvious to most the world...

Letting the market decide is going to radically and continually change society. It's not going to "conserve" anything.

[JurisDictum]

I am "truely conserving" my time by not reading that post!

The more you read the easier it gets.

[Wonkie]

I am "truely conserving" my time by not reading that post!

summary: some words mean different in europe

[DinoTriz]

True conservatives want to preserve society as it is. By definition at least. It's regressive if you want to return to a previous golden era.

Now in reality, its hard to find conservatives that don't want to change a few things for the better (or what they think is better) or roll certain things back. Still, all over the world there are people that want to "conserve" the way society looks like ATM -- and we call that conservative.

Conservatism is not the answer at this particular point in time in America. From what I can tell. Society is not doing great -- and theres some busy boddies trying to fuck up all the good shit that is going on.

The only people that disagree with me on this are well off people or children from well families that have a bright future ahead of them. Why would they want to change anything?

But that's only like 20% of Republicans. The other 80% have a bunch of fear of Dems -- so they vote against that. Or they think its time to return to a golden era -- and they have ideas on how to do that. Some of them are really progressives with stupid anti-marxist ideas -- but think in terms of "how can we improve this existing mess?"

In Germany -- conservatives are those that wanted to protect things like the traditional family against market forces...In America...conservatives are loaded with all these John Locke inspired libertarian ideas...so that can't see what is fucking obvious to most the world...

Letting the market decide is going to radically and continually change society. It's not going to "conserve" anything.

Summary: Conservatives in Europe believe Karl Marx was right.

[JurisDictum]

summary: some words mean different in europe

It's not just that. Europe is using this word in the correct way. The way we use the word is disguising important distinctions (probably purposefully by those that pioneered these labels in public discourse).

Example:

"I'm a conservative, I'm for family values and support the free market. Those statements contradict each other. The market doesn't care about your family values. It wants mom at work, kids at work, and wants to sell them sex and addictive habits.

[Mblake1981]

Football is the world's favorite sport. Sorry you disagree with the majority.

How about one of those world series games where the rest of the world isn't invited? lol

I can appreciate sports (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFuSjk7jv_M) and soccer is fun.

Sorry you didn't get to World Series.

[zodium]

I am "truely conserving" my time by not reading that post!

[Raavak]

Classical liberalism...

[Wonkie]

Classical liberalism...

a word pol taught dorks to use when saying nazi shit:rolleyes:

[zodium]

karl marx was right. the entire field of "business" is class analysis meets economics. it's just using the same ideas against the proles instead of for the proles.

[Mblake1981]

*posts not reading posts while reading posts to gain cool forums points*

[DinoTriz]

karl marx was right. the entire field of "business" is class analysis meets economics. it's just using the same ideas against the proles instead of for the proles.

Euro "Conservatives" = weak

You guys let Leftists push you around until you snap and start lining people up against walls.

Let some of the steam out (and I'm not talking showers)

[JurisDictum]

Marxism is not conservative because it doesn't want to conserve anything. It wants to move forward. It wants things equal, it doesn't want to preserve inequality or social classes. It doesn't care about tradition or stability.

[zodium]

Marxism is not conservative because it doesn't want to conserve anything. It wants to move forward. It wants things equal, it doesn't want to preserve inequality or social classes. It doesn't care about tradition or stability.

go read that post some pages back about how autistic people are too stupid to understand anything but the most simple and obvious causal connections and then try to understand that applies to you and everything you believe and then go away

[JurisDictum]

Euro "Conservatives" = weak

You guys let Leftists push you around until you snap and start lining people up against walls.

Let some of the steam out (and I'm not talking showers)

Conservatives in Europe have been much more successful in preserving their respective societies than America...

Haven't they?

[JurisDictum]

maybe we can finally get back to real conservatism instead of this bullshit libertarian american project that's infected everything for the past 15 years


american youth were statistically conservative basically up until President Sundown redefined conservative away from its sensible, universally appealing Bismarckian roots to instead mean a geriatric grifter brazenly stealing from he own children

[DinoTriz]

Conservatives have been much more successful in preserving their respective societies than America...

Haven't they?

Uh, yeah they have.

It's not even close.

Conservatives in Europe should be thanking their lucky stars that Merkel fucked up with the migrant crisis or else they would be unknown.

How's the Overton Window in continental Europe? Is "Right" even on the radar?

[Wonkie]

here lies iran
they never scored

r i p

[JurisDictum]

Uh, yeah they have.

It's not even close.

Conservatives in Europe should be thanking their lucky stars that Merkel fucked up with the migrant crisis or else they would be unknown.

How's the Overton Window in continental Europe? Is "Right" even on the radar?

It's not simply called "right." It's called Neo-Liberal. It's a much more clear way of labeling free market ideas.

Democrats hate the term neo-liberal and want it to die...because they are mostly neo-liberals and don't like how the expression pegs them.

We have 2 neo-liberal parties in this country -- which is why the leadership is so unpopular with their respective bases.

[mickmoranis]

Liberals Yesterday:

Violence in movies and Video games does not cause violence in real life!

Liberals on Today:

https://i.imgur.com/mpSfjG0.png

[JurisDictum]

Neither one of the Neoliberal parties are remotely interested in solving the problem with immigration.

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/i1YpMKz.png

The idea that you think the LEFT is split up into groups or parties, is laughable lol "If you voted for anyone but Hillary, that includes the green party or a sanders write in, you VOTED for trump!"

anyway, back to reality, your NEOLIBERAL party (formally known as the Democratic party) is about 2-3 months from murders, and about 3-6 months from assassinations of political figures.

I CANT WAIT for you to start writing checks your butts cant cash!

[Wonkie]

teaching mick words is like teaching a parrot to swear

[JurisDictum]

https://i.imgur.com/i1YpMKz.png

The idea that you think the LEFT is split up into groups or parties, is laughable lol "If you voted for anyone but Hillary, that includes the green party or a sanders write in, you VOTED for trump!"
!

That is indeed the neoliberal argument. You know, the one on corporate media networks

10069

They would like us all to believe that. Just like they want Republicans to believe their some big difference between them and the establishment Democrats.

[Patriam1066]

Valiant effort by the motherland today

I’m as proud of this as I am of us taking over, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/i1YpMKz.png

The idea that you think the LEFT is split up into groups or parties, is laughable lol "If you voted for anyone but Hillary, that includes the green party or a sanders write in, you VOTED for trump!"

anyway, back to reality, your NEOLIBERAL party (formally known as the Democratic party) is about 2-3 months from murders, and about 3-6 months from assassinations of political figures.

I CANT WAIT for you to start writing checks your butts cant cash!

the leftist hordes are coming to guillotine the progressives and libertarians both and only a noble Bismarckian hero will save u

mick knows whats up

[Irulan]

I play video games where I can enslave, sterilize, and purge trillions of faceless sentients. They are just a series of numbers in the games system.

I don't often use the option though it's interesting that it's there. It's sad it's locked into being used on entire species and not specific populations though. Kinda unrealistic.

[Mblake1981]

I play video games where I can enslave, sterilize, and purge trillions of faceless sentients. They are just a series of numbers in the games system.

I don't often use the option though it's interesting that it's there. It's sad it's locked into being used on entire species and not specific populations though. Kinda unrealistic.

oh boy. (no, don't get worked up, Holesum)

[Raavak]

a word pol taught dorks to use when saying nazi shit:rolleyes:
eh?

Classical liberal is what a lot of people who call themselves conservatives really are. Juris Dictum wrote something about "conservatives" who are students of John Locke, etc. Those people are "classical liberals".

[DinoTriz]

They would like us all to believe that. Just like they want Republicans to believe their some big difference between them and the establishment Democrats.

"Democrat" is nearly synonymous with "Neo liberal" nowadays. A lot of Republicans see that.

[JurisDictum]

"Democrat" is nearly synonymous with "Neo liberal" nowadays. A lot of Republicans see that.

Very good,

Now here is the final test:

Is the man below a Neoliberal or a Conservative?

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[Wonkie]

eh?

Classical liberal is what a lot of people who call themselves conservatives really are. Juris Dictum wrote something about "conservatives" who are students of John Locke, etc. Those people are "classical liberals".

im aware of the history lesson gramps, but i was commenting on why the term is suddenly popular now.

[DinoTriz]

Very good,

Now here is the final test:

Is the man below a Neoliberal or a Conservative?

10070

A Neoliberal.

That's why they team up so much. Neoliberal is just the new Neocon.

[DinoTriz]

im aware of the history lesson gramps, but i was commenting on why the term is suddenly popular now.

If you championed "classical liberalism" on /pol/, they'd laugh you off 4chan.

CivNats are cucks to them.

[JurisDictum]

And trump supported his agenda. Which is why he really isn't much of a conservative either. He just wanted power so bad he was willing to pander on immigration harder than anyone else (he also didn't need corporate backing as much).

But he doesn't want to solve the issue.

Which is why socialist control is inevitable.

You guys could have elected a Bismarck style Republican... instead you elected a trust fund millionaire that runs scam schools.

This is not Europe. Trump isn't serious about solving immigration. I don't know if there are any conservatives with a public profile that are.

[DinoTriz]

And trump supported his agenda. Which is why he really isn't much of a conservative either. He just wanted power so bad he was willing to pander on immigration harder than anyone else (he also didn't need corporate backing as much).

But he doesn't want to solve the issue.

Which is why socialist control is inevitable.

You guys could have elected a Bismarck style Republican... instead you elected a trust fund millionaire that runs scam schools.

This is not Europe. Trump isn't serious about solving immigration. I don't know if there are any conservatives with a public profile that are.

Trump is like a Blue dog business Democrat from the 80's. Of course he isn't the standard Conservative.

Trump may or may not want to solve immigration, but he sure fakes it better than everyone else.

He cares about native workers, no matter how outdated or misguided his methods are.

Socialist control isn't inevitable. You guys are just surrounded by Socialists. You've lost all hope.

[Irulan]

Trump is like a Blue dog business Democrat from the 80's. Of course he isn't the standard Conservative.

Trump may or may not want to solve immigration, but he sure fakes it better than everyone else.

He cares about native workers, no matter how outdated or misguided his methods are.

Socialist control isn't inevitable. You guys are just surrounded by Socialists. You've lost all hope.

I'm a cuck for feminist dogwhistling.

[Wonkie]

If you championed "classical liberalism" on /pol/, they'd laugh you off 4chan.

CivNats are cucks to them.

wheres it from then? anytime i see new righty slogans online i assume it was them :o

sargon?

[DinoTriz]

wheres it from then? anytime i see new righty slogans online i assume it was them :o

sargon?

Classical liberalism?

It's been around since the 1800's.

Sargon and Dave Rubin talk about it a lot, sure.

But there's a HUGE difference between them and /pol/.

[Wonkie]

Classical liberalism?

It's been around since the 1800's.

Sargon and Dave Rubin talk about it a lot, sure.

But there's a HUGE difference between them and /pol/.

is that a useful thing to know - the youtube political rainbow?

[DinoTriz]

is that a useful thing to know - the youtube political rainbow?

Everything is useful to know.

Like how many pixels make up a fungi tunic

[Patriam1066]

That is indeed the neoliberal argument. You know, the one on corporate media networks

10069

They would like us all to believe that. Just like they want Republicans to believe their some big difference between them and the establishment Democrats.

There is a big difference. The Dems are sane

Unfortunately, sanity doesn’t stop the hordes of welfare-melanins from trekking across central and South America to get here. Bring the drones back from Somalia and put them in El Paso

[skarlorn]

obama killed with drones and people are upset Trump puts illegals in cages?

[Irulan]

Insanity needs the veneer of sanity.

[DinoTriz]

The Dems are sane


lol telling a group of random people to hunt down and harass conservatives (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fu3g1MGHY) isn't exactly "sane".

[Mblake1981]

Texas and Jesus

*loads henry rifle*

[DinoTriz]

Texas and Jesus

*loads henry rifle*

Don't know if Jesus is real.

Texas is poop.

And Henry rifles are overrated pistol round slingers.

[Irulan]

lol telling a group of random people to hunt down and harass conservatives (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fu3g1MGHY) isn't exactly "sane".

Did not have closed captioning in my little mobile player. Did not watch.

I think I've seen some good dirt on Maxine though. Classic corruptocrat.

[Mblake1981]

Don't know if Jesus is real.

Texas is poop.

And Henry rifles are overrated pistol round slingers.

Alright then, SC and Shitposting

*loads 30-06*

[DinoTriz]

Alright then, SC and Shitposting

*loads 30-06*

Better

[AzzarTheGod]

Could be that Sarah is a really blatently dishonest and inflammatory sock puppet just like like her boss.

The deal with our previous politicians is that yeah, they lied, blatantly, but they did it with the grace of a songbird or Aes Sedai. And yeah they didn't draw the same media attention or drama. You can't blame the media 100% for this because Trumps administration draws attention deliberately to itself and is dramatic.

Sarah and Trump are like Beavis and Butthead. Women do a fair bit of peer shaming of crude behavior. Female standards of crude behavior extends to a 4D chess level far beyond crude words and gestures. So it's easy for these catty standards of not saying something "just right" to apply to one of the most visible 4/10s in America. (Or not saying something, have you ever been dinged for not saying or doing something you didn't bother to ask about or worry over?)

I have to give Sarah credit for being a really big public relations woman who isn't appealing to the 10/10 weight and beauty standards.

But otherwise she reminds the rest of us of Kim Davis with a really dirty mouth and no scruples.

Normal psychopaths like to pretend we're cool and normal. If you worked in an all girl environment you'd understand fat shaming at the next level. Also this administration supports Hobby Lobby, but not Planned Parenthood... So lol.

Oh, yeah, there's that wife beater Sarah defended and doubled down on.

Hope this helps.


ise ` ow et is these is ow ` we leve

ma`her l`eith post et dhe`hog le shet

[Patriam1066]

Don't know if Jesus is real.

Texas is poop.

And Henry rifles are overrated pistol round slingers.

????

[Patriam1066]

lol telling a group of random people to hunt down and harass conservatives (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fu3g1MGHY) isn't exactly "sane".

The Dems are the saner of the two parties

Hope this helps

[Mblake1981]

????

https://i.imgur.com/FPM6n95.jpg?1

The Dems are the saner of the two parties

Hope this helps

[Patriam1066]

I look more like Qassem suleimani. Pointy nose like Antonio esfandiari though

[mickmoranis]

Trump is like a Blue dog business Democrat from the 80's. Of course he isn't the standard Conservative.

Trump may or may not want to solve immigration, but he sure fakes it better than everyone else.

He cares about native workers, no matter how outdated or misguided his methods are.

Socialist control isn't inevitable. You guys are just surrounded by Socialists. You've lost all hope.

There is definitely no hope for socialism.

By the time that word wont be synonymous for communism in america... it'll have taken so long that all the democratic socialistic nations out there today will have converted into communist dictatorships, or been taken over by one already.

[Mblake1981]

I look more like Qassem suleimani. Pointy nose like Antonio esfandiari though

Ah, General Card

https://i.imgur.com/ZjTXc6W.png
x
https://i.imgur.com/oJxQTqA.jpg

[Patriam1066]

You misunderstand bud. He’s a gray haired Persian. I look like an older esdandiari with the qassem hair. The point is, I look nothing like that gypsy hat wearing ass hole Rouhani

[Mblake1981]

You misunderstand bud. He’s a gray haired Persian. I look like an older esdandiari with the qassem hair. The point is, I look nothing like that gypsy hat wearing ass hole Rouhani

Of course I misunderstand. I wouldn't take too kindly to being stood upon, but I comprehend.

He's the President, so is Trump. I don't need to describe my physical appearance.

Take care, Patriam.

[DinoTriz]

The Dems are the saner of the two parties

Hope this helps

You should move back to Iran. (https://youtu.be/n0Mail68wo4)

Hope this helps.

[mickmoranis]

Breaking news: liberals upset that Trump appointed Mad Dog Mathis is lambasting trump for shunning Mathis after he gets upset that Trump suspend military exercises in korea in a diplomatic effort to bring peace to the reagin.

Next up hippies asked for World War 3 to happen immediately.

[JurisDictum]

Finally a woman is asking for dick pics.

Professor asks men to send her pictures of their penises to help measure self esteem (https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/46164/)

You have to admire Drew Van Voorhis -- the author of this article -- for coming up with such a good title.

[JurisDictum]

Breaking news: liberals upset that Trump appointed Mad Dog Mathis is lambasting trump for shunning Mathis after he gets upset that Trump suspend military exercises in korea in a diplomatic effort to bring peace to the reagin.

Next up hippies asked for World War 3 to happen immediately.

I always knew that guy was an over-rated military industrial corporate shill. He used his reputation to get Marines to sign a post hoc waiver for the dangerous testing of pharmaceuticals on them.

Edit: Maybe that's unfair. I mean remember when he won that important world war for us...oh LOL that's right. There are no important wars we have been a part of in over 50 years.

Mattis’ long and distinguished military career didn’t leave much time for a personal life. He’s never been married and has no children. His dedication to service and scholarly pursuits earned him the nickname “Warrior Monk.” He devoted his time to studying war, including being able to quote Sun Tzu, Ulysses S. Grant, George Patton, Shakespeare, and the Bible, Fox News reported. He also carried a copy of the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius with him on his deployments. That is, when he isn't sucking dick because he's probably a closet case.

[Irulan]

I don't think Mattis is gay.

[JurisDictum]

Maybe not.

I mean to me, the likeliness depends on if there is any evidence he sleep with women occasionally. There aren't that many high functioning asexuals out there. Your not telling me a straight guy with normal impulses goes his whole damn life without getting laid here and there.

Also, it's easy to just "focus on your career" and be a "warrior-monk" when you are denial about your sexuality. But I admit its complete unsubstantiated BS on my part.

Edit: being an intellectual is kind of gay.

[Patriam1066]

Of course I misunderstand. I wouldn't take too kindly to being stood upon, but I comprehend.

He's the President, so is Trump. I don't need to describe my physical appearance.

Take care, Patriam.

I’m disappointed. Tease

You should move back to Iran. (https://youtu.be/n0Mail68wo4)

Hope this helps.

Not yet

[Irulan]

If he was gay and in denial he'd have a trophy wife or several. Or act like an incel. Been caught with hookers.

Dudes not gay.

I could be wrong though.

[Mblake81]

I’m disappointed. Tease

??? fine.

6ft. Brown Hair. Green eyes. 210lbs. Was named after a character from Another World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZLPMByCKQ). Mothers side scott/irish and father side is ??? dunno, only met them twice. Marriage didn't last, mother got full custody in exchange for no child support. Grandfather on my mothers side was a war vet and a drunk. Grandmother went to work before you did, 14 you said? yes. No german automobiles, Fords mostly.

P/S saying tease to another man is borderline queer. You gave me the shakes a little.

[skarlorn]

??? fine.

6ft. Brown Hair. Green eyes. 210lbs. Was named after a character from Another World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZLPMByCKQ). Mothers side scott/irish and father side is ??? dunno, only met them twice. Marriage didn't last, mother got full custody in exchange for no child support. Grandfather on my mothers side was a war vet and a drunk. Grandmother went to work before you did, 14 you said? yes. No german automobiles, Fords mostly.

P/S saying tease to another man is borderline queer. You gave me the shakes a little.

c u REAL SOON

[Swish2]

It's amazing how many people have Scottish/Irish heritage but don't consider themselves either.

If you're a 3rd generation black British kid with a grandfather from Trinidad/Jamaica/somewhere you hold right onto that and think of yourself as English/etc second.

Nobody wants to be British, I don't get it lol

[Mblake81]

c u REAL SOON

Oh hay its 4chan.

Someone did try to break into my Mothers house today around 2pm eastern. Think the gun scared em off, shoot their scruffy no good ass.

[skarlorn]

is cu real soon a 4chan meme? thought it was red dox threat

[Mblake81]

is cu real soon a 4chan meme? thought it was red dox threat

I don't know.

[Irulan]

. . .

[Mblake81]

. . .

. . . (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88l9tjkTBwQ)

[Patriam1066]

??? fine.

6ft. Brown Hair. Green eyes. 210lbs. Was named after a character from Another World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZLPMByCKQ). Mothers side scott/irish and father side is ??? dunno, only met them twice. Marriage didn't last, mother got full custody in exchange for no child support. Grandfather on my mothers side was a war vet and a drunk. Grandmother went to work before you did, 14 you said? yes. No german automobiles, Fords mostly.

P/S saying tease to another man is borderline queer. You gave me the shakes a little.

Green eyes

C u real soon

[zodium]

c u real soon

[Mblake81]

c u real soon

will it be down in Cazic Thule again?

[zodium]

only if you'll be there bae ;-*

[Mblake81]

only if you'll be there bae ;-*

I don't need anymore potions, so no. Drop the gay act. One cliche after another, living message board meme.

[zodium]

what are you gonna do about it

[Mblake81]

what are you gonna do about it

Sit here and smirk.

[zodium]

well i think that's not gonna be very effective but give it a whirl pal

[Mblake81]

well i think that's not gonna be very effective but give it a whirl pal

oh its already working.

[skarlorn]

gatmanno is a saint of hobbit

[zodium]

lol dude

e: hi filbus :3

[Mblake81]

gatmanno is a saint of hobbit

You and I have different ideas of what saint is then. Hes an annoying little pest.

Edit: well saints were annoying to the point they were killed. Maybe you are correct.

[zodium]

grrrr gat

hate gat

[Mblake81]

grrrr gat

hate gat

yeah for about a year now.

[zodium]

you're an odd fella pal, but, I forgive u

[Mblake81]

you're an odd fella pal, but, I forgive u

Take a jumjum stalk and shove up where your Avatar doesn't shine.

[zodium]

honestly friend and I say this from a place of genuine concern, you sound like you might have immersion problems if you've been carrying this bitterness with you all this time, you gotta learn to let go and relax

hmu in elfworld and we'll do some fun stuff ;-*

[Mblake81]

honestly friend and I say this from a place of genuine concern, you sound like you might have immersion problems if you've been carrying this bitterness with you all this time, you gotta learn to let go and relax

oh shut up

annoying pest.

hmu in elfworld and we'll do some fun stuff ;-*

no.

[zodium]

SHEESH

[skarlorn]

mblake tailored his forum in reaction to me and he has the audacity to call other people annoying pest

[Mblake81]

mblake tailored his forum in reaction to me and he has the audacity to call other people annoying pest

Thats rich

[zodium]

i'm starting to think Mblake81 has very poor manners :(

[Mblake81]

i'm starting to think Mblake81 has very poor manners :(

All the way back to 2010.

Don't talk to me about manners.

[zodium]

well i hope one day you find it in your heart to forgive my transgressions friend, but until then, good posting to u :o

[Mblake81]

well i hope one day you find it in your heart to forgive my transgressions friend, but until then, good posting to u :o

Take care, no.

[zodium]

Do you think that being asked to leave a restaurant, or having your meal interrupted, or being called by the public is bad? My fascism-enabling friends, this is only the beginning.

One thing that people who wield great power often fail to viscerally understand is what it feels like to have power wielded against you. This imbalance is the source of many of the most monstrous decisions that get made by powerful people and institutions. The people who start the wars do not have bombs dropped on their houses. The people who pass the laws that incarcerate others never have to face the full force of the prison system themselves. The people who design the economic system that inflicts poverty on millions are themselves rich. This sort of insulation from the real world consequences of political and economic decisions makes it very easy for powerful people to approve of things happening to the rest of us that they would never, ever tolerate themselves. No health insurance CEO would watch his child die due to their inability to afford quality health care. No chickenhawk Congressman will be commanding a tank battle in Iran. No opportunistic race-baiting politician will be shunned because of their skin color. Zealots condemn gay people—except for their own gay children. The weed-smoking of young immigrants should get them deported—but our own weed-smoking was a youthful indiscretion. Environmentalist celebrities fly on carbon-spouting private jets. Banks make ostentatious charity donations while raking in billions from investments in defense contractors and gun manufacturers and oil companies. This is human nature. It is very, very easy to do things that hurt others as long as those same things benefit, rather than hurt, you. Self-justification is a specialty of mankind.

A well-designed political system would have a built-in feedback system to ensure that those making the decisions are also subject to the consequences of those decisions. Minor versions of this are floated every now and then: Put Congress on Obamacare! Pay elected officials what their average constituents earn! But in aggregate, of course, we have nothing like this feedback mechanism in America. The titans of money congregate on Wall Street and the titans of government congregate in DC and they all make decisions that often disenfranchise and impoverish and frustrate the dreams of people far away, and then they go to nice restaurants and go home to nice houses and have nice, well-paid careers for decades to come. That is our system. There is little incentive for those who work within that system to change it in a way that might create the sort of negative feedback that can be unpleasant. Therefore it is the job of the public to do just that. Doing so is, in fact, a public service. It promotes good government.

“With great power comes great responsibility.” That is the basic idea underlying noblesse oblige, and though noblesse oblige itself is not as good as equality, it looks fantastic compared to what we have today. Today, we have an ignorant billionaire narcissist leading our government, a man surrounded by a pack of enablers who by now have clearly demonstrated that no amount of racism or xenophobia or lies or warmongering or outright corruption will dissuade them from helping the boss do what the boss wants to do. Rather than detail a laundry list of all the Trump outrages, I ask you simply to consider all of the very real human costs that those outrages have already inflicted on human beings in America and abroad. Some of those outrages, like ripping families apart at the border, show their costs immediately; others, like eschewing the fight against climate change and neutering the EPA and mainstreaming white nationalist ideas, will be manifesting their costs for many decades to come. But the costs are real. We are the ones who are suffering and will suffer them. By and large, the people responsible for these decisions will be wealthy and famous and powerful enough to insulate themselves from those costs. Unless we decide to see to it that they must face them.

It is telling that many of those who make their living in the political industrial complex, whether Democrat or Republican or Washington Post editorial page, find the idea of socially shunning people because of their politics to be abhorrent. Their shudders are a symptom of the fact that DC is indeed a swamp—a friendly swamp, where all the gators and slugs and mudfish meet up at the end of the day for cocktails, because to them, politics is a job. To the rest of us, politics is the use of power in a way that has very real effects on our lives. Poverty is an affliction of history and the failure to remedy history’s crimes, of greed and self-dealing and the tax code. Sickness is often an affliction of the political decision not to build a fair and equitable health care system, so that a small number of people can get rich instead. Tens of millions of people around the world suffer under dictatorships that are supported by America to serve our own economic ends. People die because of political decisions every day. Politics is real. This is what is on one side of our current disagreement: death, and human rights, and freedom, and equality. And this is what is on the other side: wanting to eat at a nice restaurant without having anyone remind you that you are ruining people’s lives. The sides of this scale are not even close to balancing yet.

This is all going to get more extreme. And it should. We are living in extreme times. The harm that is being done to all of us by the people in the American government is extreme. To imagine that Mexican immigrants should happily cook for and serve meals to people who enable a man who is determined to demonize and persecute them as subhuman criminals is far more outrageous than the idea that those enablers should not be served in restaurants. I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently. Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant. When you aggressively fuck with people’s lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours.

Stop working for this man. Stop enabling him. Stop assisting him. Start fighting him. The people who are responsible for what is happening are not going to get out of this with their happy wealthy respectable lives unscathed. This is a country that locks poor people in cages for decades for trying to make $20. This is a country that is “tough on crime.” Remember? And the ones who make the laws are not going to like what happens when America starts to regard them as the criminals. (https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100)

[DinoTriz]

Do you think that being asked to leave a restaurant, or having your meal interrupted, or being called by the public is bad? My fascism-enabling friends, this is only the beginning.

One thing that people who wield great power often fail to viscerally understand is what it feels like to have power wielded against you. This imbalance is the source of many of the most monstrous decisions that get made by powerful people and institutions. The people who start the wars do not have bombs dropped on their houses. The people who pass the laws that incarcerate others never have to face the full force of the prison system themselves. The people who design the economic system that inflicts poverty on millions are themselves rich. This sort of insulation from the real world consequences of political and economic decisions makes it very easy for powerful people to approve of things happening to the rest of us that they would never, ever tolerate themselves. No health insurance CEO would watch his child die due to their inability to afford quality health care. No chickenhawk Congressman will be commanding a tank battle in Iran. No opportunistic race-baiting politician will be shunned because of their skin color. Zealots condemn gay people—except for their own gay children. The weed-smoking of young immigrants should get them deported—but our own weed-smoking was a youthful indiscretion. Environmentalist celebrities fly on carbon-spouting private jets. Banks make ostentatious charity donations while raking in billions from investments in defense contractors and gun manufacturers and oil companies. This is human nature. It is very, very easy to do things that hurt others as long as those same things benefit, rather than hurt, you. Self-justification is a specialty of mankind.

A well-designed political system would have a built-in feedback system to ensure that those making the decisions are also subject to the consequences of those decisions. Minor versions of this are floated every now and then: Put Congress on Obamacare! Pay elected officials what their average constituents earn! But in aggregate, of course, we have nothing like this feedback mechanism in America. The titans of money congregate on Wall Street and the titans of government congregate in DC and they all make decisions that often disenfranchise and impoverish and frustrate the dreams of people far away, and then they go to nice restaurants and go home to nice houses and have nice, well-paid careers for decades to come. That is our system. There is little incentive for those who work within that system to change it in a way that might create the sort of negative feedback that can be unpleasant. Therefore it is the job of the public to do just that. Doing so is, in fact, a public service. It promotes good government.

“With great power comes great responsibility.” That is the basic idea underlying noblesse oblige, and though noblesse oblige itself is not as good as equality, it looks fantastic compared to what we have today. Today, we have an ignorant billionaire narcissist leading our government, a man surrounded by a pack of enablers who by now have clearly demonstrated that no amount of racism or xenophobia or lies or warmongering or outright corruption will dissuade them from helping the boss do what the boss wants to do. Rather than detail a laundry list of all the Trump outrages, I ask you simply to consider all of the very real human costs that those outrages have already inflicted on human beings in America and abroad. Some of those outrages, like ripping families apart at the border, show their costs immediately; others, like eschewing the fight against climate change and neutering the EPA and mainstreaming white nationalist ideas, will be manifesting their costs for many decades to come. But the costs are real. We are the ones who are suffering and will suffer them. By and large, the people responsible for these decisions will be wealthy and famous and powerful enough to insulate themselves from those costs. Unless we decide to see to it that they must face them.

It is telling that many of those who make their living in the political industrial complex, whether Democrat or Republican or Washington Post editorial page, find the idea of socially shunning people because of their politics to be abhorrent. Their shudders are a symptom of the fact that DC is indeed a swamp—a friendly swamp, where all the gators and slugs and mudfish meet up at the end of the day for cocktails, because to them, politics is a job. To the rest of us, politics is the use of power in a way that has very real effects on our lives. Poverty is an affliction of history and the failure to remedy history’s crimes, of greed and self-dealing and the tax code. Sickness is often an affliction of the political decision not to build a fair and equitable health care system, so that a small number of people can get rich instead. Tens of millions of people around the world suffer under dictatorships that are supported by America to serve our own economic ends. People die because of political decisions every day. Politics is real. This is what is on one side of our current disagreement: death, and human rights, and freedom, and equality. And this is what is on the other side: wanting to eat at a nice restaurant without having anyone remind you that you are ruining people’s lives. The sides of this scale are not even close to balancing yet.

This is all going to get more extreme. And it should. We are living in extreme times. The harm that is being done to all of us by the people in the American government is extreme. To imagine that Mexican immigrants should happily cook for and serve meals to people who enable a man who is determined to demonize and persecute them as subhuman criminals is far more outrageous than the idea that those enablers should not be served in restaurants. I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently. Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant. When you aggressively fuck with people’s lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours.

Stop working for this man. Stop enabling him. Stop assisting him. Start fighting him. The people who are responsible for what is happening are not going to get out of this with their happy wealthy respectable lives unscathed. This is a country that locks poor people in cages for decades for trying to make $20. This is a country that is “tough on crime.” Remember? And the ones who make the laws are not going to like what happens when America starts to regard them as the criminals. (https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100)

Didn't read.

[mickmoranis]

Feminism:

"Not enough female protagonists im movies make people think that females are objects for men to own"

"Also all of us feminists watch and talk about every episode of the bacholar, where women are objects for a man to choose like they are at a candy store"

[Irulan]

Do you think that being asked to leave a restaurant, or having your meal interrupted, or being called by the public is bad? My fascism-enabling friends, this is only the beginning.

One thing that people who wield great power often fail to viscerally understand is what it feels like to have power wielded against you. This imbalance is the source of many of the most monstrous decisions that get made by powerful people and institutions. The people who start the wars do not have bombs dropped on their houses. The people who pass the laws that incarcerate others never have to face the full force of the prison system themselves. The people who design the economic system that inflicts poverty on millions are themselves rich. This sort of insulation from the real world consequences of political and economic decisions makes it very easy for powerful people to approve of things happening to the rest of us that they would never, ever tolerate themselves. No health insurance CEO would watch his child die due to their inability to afford quality health care. No chickenhawk Congressman will be commanding a tank battle in Iran. No opportunistic race-baiting politician will be shunned because of their skin color. Zealots condemn gay people—except for their own gay children. The weed-smoking of young immigrants should get them deported—but our own weed-smoking was a youthful indiscretion. Environmentalist celebrities fly on carbon-spouting private jets. Banks make ostentatious charity donations while raking in billions from investments in defense contractors and gun manufacturers and oil companies. This is human nature. It is very, very easy to do things that hurt others as long as those same things benefit, rather than hurt, you. Self-justification is a specialty of mankind.

A well-designed political system would have a built-in feedback system to ensure that those making the decisions are also subject to the consequences of those decisions. Minor versions of this are floated every now and then: Put Congress on Obamacare! Pay elected officials what their average constituents earn! But in aggregate, of course, we have nothing like this feedback mechanism in America. The titans of money congregate on Wall Street and the titans of government congregate in DC and they all make decisions that often disenfranchise and impoverish and frustrate the dreams of people far away, and then they go to nice restaurants and go home to nice houses and have nice, well-paid careers for decades to come. That is our system. There is little incentive for those who work within that system to change it in a way that might create the sort of negative feedback that can be unpleasant. Therefore it is the job of the public to do just that. Doing so is, in fact, a public service. It promotes good government.

“With great power comes great responsibility.” That is the basic idea underlying noblesse oblige, and though noblesse oblige itself is not as good as equality, it looks fantastic compared to what we have today. Today, we have an ignorant billionaire narcissist leading our government, a man surrounded by a pack of enablers who by now have clearly demonstrated that no amount of racism or xenophobia or lies or warmongering or outright corruption will dissuade them from helping the boss do what the boss wants to do. Rather than detail a laundry list of all the Trump outrages, I ask you simply to consider all of the very real human costs that those outrages have already inflicted on human beings in America and abroad. Some of those outrages, like ripping families apart at the border, show their costs immediately; others, like eschewing the fight against climate change and neutering the EPA and mainstreaming white nationalist ideas, will be manifesting their costs for many decades to come. But the costs are real. We are the ones who are suffering and will suffer them. By and large, the people responsible for these decisions will be wealthy and famous and powerful enough to insulate themselves from those costs. Unless we decide to see to it that they must face them.

It is telling that many of those who make their living in the political industrial complex, whether Democrat or Republican or Washington Post editorial page, find the idea of socially shunning people because of their politics to be abhorrent. Their shudders are a symptom of the fact that DC is indeed a swamp—a friendly swamp, where all the gators and slugs and mudfish meet up at the end of the day for cocktails, because to them, politics is a job. To the rest of us, politics is the use of power in a way that has very real effects on our lives. Poverty is an affliction of history and the failure to remedy history’s crimes, of greed and self-dealing and the tax code. Sickness is often an affliction of the political decision not to build a fair and equitable health care system, so that a small number of people can get rich instead. Tens of millions of people around the world suffer under dictatorships that are supported by America to serve our own economic ends. People die because of political decisions every day. Politics is real. This is what is on one side of our current disagreement: death, and human rights, and freedom, and equality. And this is what is on the other side: wanting to eat at a nice restaurant without having anyone remind you that you are ruining people’s lives. The sides of this scale are not even close to balancing yet.

This is all going to get more extreme. And it should. We are living in extreme times. The harm that is being done to all of us by the people in the American government is extreme. To imagine that Mexican immigrants should happily cook for and serve meals to people who enable a man who is determined to demonize and persecute them as subhuman criminals is far more outrageous than the idea that those enablers should not be served in restaurants. I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently. Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant. When you aggressively fuck with people’s lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours.

Stop working for this man. Stop enabling him. Stop assisting him. Start fighting him. The people who are responsible for what is happening are not going to get out of this with their happy wealthy respectable lives unscathed. This is a country that locks poor people in cages for decades for trying to make $20. This is a country that is “tough on crime.” Remember? And the ones who make the laws are not going to like what happens when America starts to regard them as the criminals. (https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100)

Winning is more important.
We are told what to believe, and how to believe.
Getting our "own way" is more important. (the way we are told and taught to think)


Backing poor disenfranchised suffering people up against a wall and enabling bigotry and hatred is a surefire way to get a bloodbath.

Everyone behind Trumps administration want a bloodbath. They think they are bigger scarier and manlier than everyone else. They have been brainwashed to believe they'll win in a bloodbath. They've already decided that they know best and everyone else doesn't matter. Our lives do not matter. It's silly to hold any pretense that they care about me, or you. They will lie, and say they do. They'll say think of the children when railing against queers and using us as boogeymen. But they could care less how many children like me end up casualties in their ideological war.

America is selfish. Greedy. Sexist. Racist. Patriarchal. Fearful. Hateful. Might makes right. She's blind. Her justice serves corporations. Her laws enable monopolies and antitrust and unholy usury.

America is satanic. Christian America is infested with Satanism. The devil lives in the hearts and minds of the Christian right under Mike Pence.

Thanks for speaking up Zodium. Get rich. Get power. Vote. Fire these people. Deny them healthcare. Kick them out into the streets. Shut them down and destroy the corporations like Facebook that feed them.

Good luck, and God bless.

[DinoTriz]

ok I lie - I read it.

Do you think that being asked to leave a restaurant, or having your meal interrupted, or being called by the public is bad? My fascism-enabling friends, this is only the beginning.

Let me guess, if I don't strictly follow your dogma, you're going to hurt me? You're calling ME a fascist? lol k

One thing that people who wield great power often fail to viscerally understand is what it feels like to have power wielded against you.

Ironic. Considering your side wielded power for the last ten years in the most arrogant fashion that when the pendulum swung back it did so hard that it put Donald Trump in the oval office. You play a 20 year old elf sim, you should be old enough to recoginze a political pendulum swing does not equal a nazi coup.

This imbalance is the source of many of the most monstrous decisions that get made by powerful people and institutions. The people who start the wars do not have bombs dropped on their houses. The people who pass the laws that incarcerate others never have to face the full force of the prison system themselves. The people who design the economic system that inflicts poverty on millions are themselves rich. This sort of insulation from the real world consequences of political and economic decisions makes it very easy for powerful people to approve of things happening to the rest of us that they would never, ever tolerate themselves. No health insurance CEO would watch his child die due to their inability to afford quality health care. No chickenhawk Congressman will be commanding a tank battle in Iran.

Let me take a wild guess, you're going to blame all of this on Trump when it's literally been the US's MO for years. I'd bet my left nut you sat there with your mouth shut when this was taking place under Obama's watch.

No opportunistic race-baiting politician will be shunned because of their skin color.

You guys inject race into EVERY little thing. If a politician wants to fix pot holes in the streets, it's probably because he hates Mexicans for being brown. But when the media talks about how the reaction to Trump was a "white lash", you turn a blind fucking eye to that shit. You guys condemn minorities for voting conservatively and you tell them they can't succeed because of their race.

Zealots condemn gay people—except for their own gay children.

The Religious Right's power has been usurped and gay people are accepted now more than ever. Move on from the 1990's.

The weed-smoking of young immigrants should get them deported—but our own weed-smoking was a youthful indiscretion.

If you break a law and you're here illegally, you're going to be discovered.

Environmentalist celebrities fly on carbon-spouting private jets. Banks make ostentatious charity donations while raking in billions from investments in defense contractors and gun manufacturers and oil companies. This is human nature. It is very, very easy to do things that hurt others as long as those same things benefit, rather than hurt, you. Self-justification is a specialty of mankind.

*sips expensive wine*

How astute.

A well-designed political system would have a built-in feedback system to ensure that those making the decisions are also subject to the consequences of those decisions. Minor versions of this are floated every now and then: Put Congress on Obamacare! Pay elected officials what their average constituents earn! But in aggregate, of course, we have nothing like this feedback mechanism in America. The titans of money congregate on Wall Street and the titans of government congregate in DC and they all make decisions that often disenfranchise and impoverish and frustrate the dreams of people far away, and then they go to nice restaurants and go home to nice houses and have nice, well-paid careers for decades to come. That is our system. There is little incentive for those who work within that system to change it in a way that might create the sort of negative feedback that can be unpleasant. Therefore it is the job of the public to do just that. Doing so is, in fact, a public service. It promotes good government.

So in short "Fuck the Establishment" but you're trying to tell me to "Vote for Clinton".

"With great power comes great responsibility."

excellent Spider Man quote

Today, we have an ignorant billionaire narcissist leading our government, a man surrounded by a pack of enablers

Which president are we talking about? You'll have to be more specific.

who by now have clearly demonstrated that no amount of racism or xenophobia or lies or warmongering or outright corruption will dissuade them from helping the boss do what the boss wants to do.

Your perception does not equal reality. This is where the Left truly fails. You guys are so arrogant and self-righteous that it has made you blind.

Rather than detail a laundry list of all the Trump outrages, I ask you simply to consider all of the very real human costs that those outrages have already inflicted on human beings in America and abroad. Some of those outrages, like ripping families apart at the border, show their costs immediately; others, like eschewing the fight against climate change and neutering the EPA and mainstreaming white nationalist ideas, will be manifesting their costs for many decades to come.

You forgot about the mass executions. Don't leave those out now.

But the costs are real.

Oh I'm sure it must feel that way. Confirmation Bias is a powerful drug.

We are the ones who are suffering and will suffer them. By and large, the people responsible for these decisions will be wealthy and famous and powerful enough to insulate themselves from those costs. Unless we decide to see to it that they must face them.

You guys need a hobby. Badly.

It is telling that many of those who make their living in the political industrial complex, whether Democrat or Republican or Washington Post editorial page, find the idea of socially shunning people because of their politics to be abhorrent.

NORMAL people believe you shouldn't shun people for their political beliefs. Your average person is tolerant and learns to live with one another. It's not some grand "political industrial complex" conspiracy. If you shun people over politics, you need some air. Because you're getting extreme.

Their shudders are a symptom of the fact that DC is indeed a swamp—a friendly swamp, where all the gators and slugs and mudfish meet up at the end of the day for cocktails, because to them, politics is a job.

And yet you'll make fun of people for believing a "Deep State" exists.

To the rest of us, politics is the use of power in a way that has very real effects on our lives. Poverty is an affliction of history and the failure to remedy history's crimes, of greed and self-dealing and the tax code. Sickness is often an affliction of the political decision not to build a fair and equitable health care system, so that a small number of people can get rich instead. Tens of millions of people around the world suffer under dictatorships that are supported by America to serve our own economic ends. People die because of political decisions every day. Politics is real. This is what is on one side of our current disagreement: death, and human rights, and freedom, and equality. And this is what is on the other side: wanting to eat at a nice restaurant without having anyone remind you that you are ruining people's lives. The sides of this scale are not even close to balancing yet.

Yeah? The sides are that different? "Tens of millions of people around the world suffer under dictatorships that are supported by America to serve our own economic ends." Like how Obama supported Cuba and Hillary supported Saudi Arabia? And don't even get me started on showing sympathy to old soviet dictatorships during the Cold War.

"death, and human rights" like how you're literally threatening people in this post if you don't get your way? Fuck off.

"freedom, and equality" ask your side how they feel about Freedom of Speech or Expression. You're all about diversity as long as it isn't diversity of thought.

But please, continue to advocate for harrassment and violence.

This is all going to get more extreme. And it should.

This is definitely "good guy" speak.

We are living in extreme times. The harm that is being done to all of us by the people in the American government is extreme.

Let me guess...you're not being extreme though. You're good. Everyone else is extreme. Not you. You're only calling for political violence. Completely normal.

To imagine that Mexican immigrants should happily cook for and serve meals to people who enable a man who is determined to demonize and persecute them as subhuman criminals is far more outrageous than the idea that those enablers should not be served in restaurants.

Why do you think only Mexican immigrants do all the cooking? Check out the bigot, guys.

I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and kill them?

Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently.

Still waiting...one day the fascism will TRULY begin guys!

Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant. When you aggressively fuck with people's lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours.

You guys are such emotional babies. Do what the conservatives did. Sit quietly for 8 years and push back with a vote of your own. You sound like spoiled brats. The world isn't ending because you're not getting your way. Grow the fuck up.

Stop working for this man. Stop enabling him. Stop assisting him. Start fighting him. The people who are responsible for what is happening are not going to get out of this with their happy wealthy respectable lives unscathed. This is a country that locks poor people in cages for decades for trying to make $20. This is a country that is "tough on crime." Remember? And the ones who make the laws are not going to like what happens when America starts to regard them as the criminals. (https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100)

Nah, this is fun. I'm going to keep doing it, especially in spite of extreme psychopaths such as yourself :)

[Irulan]

"Donald Trump, by mocking John McCain's captivity during the Vietnam War, by extension trivialized all U.S. servicemen captured in battle by declaring 'I like people who weren't captured.'"

"Counterpoint: Sarah Huckabee-Sanders -- a priveleged, well-connected lady pulling down a six-figure salary -- had her Friday evening dinner plans interrupted. Both sides are awful, really."

[Wonkie]

obnoxious usenet replystyle activated

sum1's triggered

[Irulan]

"Donald Trump is a straight talker. He says what he means, no politically correct BS." --Conservatives

"Liberals need to be polite and not say what they really think of Donald Trump." --Also conservatives

[Irulan]

The whole idea of telling liberals to STFU because "that's why Trump won" should be seen for what it is - an attempt by the ever authoritarian right to shut down any voices other than their own.



Remember - these are the people who elected a crude and cruel vulgarian who says outrageous and vicious things about everyone. They have always publicly shamed, insulted and threatened those who disagree with them politically - try and enter a Planned Parenthood clinic on any given day if you don't believe it. They champion the rights of small business people to discriminate against people on the basis of their class - .ie. bakers who don't have to bake cakes, pharmacists who don't have to fill prescriptions.



The right claims the right of outrage and harassment for themselves alone. And they are trying to sell the idea, with the aid of the mass media, that liberals have no choice but to take it. That's how Trump won, folks - the normalization of bullying, the refusal to fight back with courage and agility.

[Irulan]

Look. Derfurher has already done all the work for me. I can copy paste all day lol. I don't even have to think about my own personal outrage at cadet bone spurs.

[Irulan]

Seriously. I wish Trump's supporters would lay out just how much dissent and disagreement they're willing to tolerate from liberals, because I'm willing to bet that anything harsher than "I don't agree with Trump's policies but I understand why people support him" is going to be considered liberal hate speech to them.

[Raavak]

"Donald Trump, by mocking John McCain's captivity during the Vietnam War, by extension trivialized all U.S. servicemen captured in battle by declaring 'I like people who weren't captured.'"
John McCain is a fuck-tard.

Does anyone really like him? Liberals like defending him as their whipping boy "conservative", but conservatives don't even like him.

[Irulan]

I was starting to lose faith in Trump. Growing disenchanted. Wondering if I had made a mistake in voting for him. Then I saw that communist, socialist, Marxist Jimmy Kimmel making a tearful plea for better, more affordable healthcare in the U.S. I became so outraged that now -- not only am I going to vote for Trump again -- I want to start upholstering my furniture with the skin of immigrants.

Celebrities should keep out of politics!

[DinoTriz]

obnoxious usenet replystyle activated

sum1's triggered

[Irulan]

John McCain is a fuck-tard.

Does anyone really like him? Liberals like defending him as their whipping boy "conservative", but conservatives don't even like him.

There are levels of fucktardery. Some people transcend them. I should know. I'm one of them. I served with some really obnoxious weirdos. But I like them all better than Trump himself. It's not McCain I care about. It's what McCain represents. Ironically. Someone with a tiny little bitty ounce of integrity and honor.

Can you guess who else may be a transcendent fucktard in this world?

[Wonkie]

John McCain is a fuck-tard.

Does anyone really like him? Liberals like defending him as their whipping boy "conservative", but conservatives don't even like him.

libs roast him too. he always says hes "concerned" and then votes for whatever the hell the gop says. making fun of him for vietnam is kinda shitty but civility is dumb rn so whatever.

[DinoTriz]

Can you guess who else may be a transcendent fucktard in this world?

DRUMPF

https://i.imgur.com/OCN9uFs.jpg

[DinoTriz]

libs roast him too. he always says hes "concerned" and then votes for whatever the hell the gop says. making fun of him for vietnam is kinda shitty but civility is dumb rn so whatever.

He's a total military industrial complex stooge.

He should know better since he's a vet, but sadly, everyone has a price.

[Irulan]

libs roast him too. he always says hes "concerned" and then votes for whatever the hell the gop says. making fun of him for vietnam is kinda shitty but civility is dumb rn so whatever.

You're absolutely right.

The time for civility is over. The only option left is to pick a shitty side and fight to the death.

I'm not picking the cracker who makes fun of POWs, dead soldiers, and me. I'm not picking the cracker aligned with Brietbart's violent deplorable hordes.

And neither should any of you.

[zodium]

it owns that DinoTriz first pretended not to read the post, then when his impotent excuse for self control failed, went down giving a triggered af, quote by quote response, and then still didn't notice the link to the original article broadcasting that I didn't write it, which should have been obvious from my not being a leftist in the first place

fucking american conservatives lol, you all have brain damage or something

smdh

[zodium]

y'all too blind deaf and dumb to stop the left guillotining your asses

[Wonkie]

it owns that DinoTriz first pretended not to read the post, then when his impotent excuse for self control failed, went down giving a triggered af, quote by quote response, and then still didn't notice the link to the original article broadcasting that I didn't write it, which should have been obvious from my not being a leftist in the first place

fucking american conservatives lol, you all have brain damage or something

smdh

did you get it from the hot dog forums?

[Irulan]

y'all too blind deaf and dumb to stop the left guillotining your asses

I'm gonna be playing EQ and poopsocking epics and posting on p99forums when the queerpocalypse happens and they start coming for us.

[DinoTriz]

it owns that DinoTriz first pretended not to read the post, then when his impotent excuse for self control failed, went down giving a triggered af, quote by quote response, and then still didn't notice the link to the original article broadcasting that I didn't write it, which should have been obvious from my not being a leftist in the first place

fucking american conservatives lol, you all have brain damage or something

smdh

Except you are a leftist. You capitulate, sulk and cower to extremists.

If you were mugged in an alley, your "solution" would be to remove your pants and bend over.

That's not useful for anyone.

It should be telling that when I see weak, communistic speak posted by you, my first instinct is to believe it came from you and not any other source.

[DinoTriz]

y'all too blind deaf and dumb to stop the left guillotining your asses

Yeah? Well "Pirate" isn't even a real fucking class in EQ.

triggered.exe

[Irulan]

Except you are a leftist. You capitulate, sulk and cower to extremists.

If you were mugged in an alley, your "solution" would be to remove your pants and bend over.

That's not useful for anyone.

It should be telling that when I see weak, communistic speak posted by you, my first instinct is to believe it came from you and not any other source.

Too bad we'll never be pals and able to dry fuk each other in the sandpapery ass without mutual consent.

[DinoTriz]

Too bad we'll never be pals and able to dry fuk each other in the sandpapery ass without mutual consent.

I would use lube with you, Irulan.

I still like you. But I am grumpy this morning.

[Wonkie]

I would use lube with you, Irulan.

I still like you. But I am grumpy this morning.

you might be dysphoric ill keep an eye out and report back

[DinoTriz]

you might be dysphoric ill keep an eye out and report back

Clinically triggered.

[Irulan]

I would use lube with you, Irulan.

I still like you. But I am grumpy this morning.

Sorry. I think you're cool. It's too much effort to stay constantly mad and upset 24/7. Hope you have a good afternoon.

Carry on. :)

[zodium]

Yeah? Well "Pirate" isn't even a real fucking class in EQ.

triggered.exe

holy shit lmao

[DinoTriz]

holy shit lmao

Yeah...i fuckin went there

[zodium]

fwiw that would've been really funny if you'd just posted that, instead of first going into nuclear core meltdown and only then posting it. like I woulda laughed.

giving out posting advice all night AMA

[DinoTriz]

fwiw that would've been really funny if you'd just posted that, instead of first going into nuclear core meltdown and only then posting it. like I woulda laughed.

giving out posting advice all night AMA

I fell into the "Take things too seriously" trap.

That's what I get for spending time with the spergs on reddit before coming here.

I wish I could nuke that website from orbit. It really is a cesspool.

[Patriam1066]

America is a great country

TRUMP 2020

[JurisDictum]

Some 19 year old girl breaks into her ex-boyfriends house and made him have sex with her at Machete-Point. (http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/montana-machete-assault-295730)

10073

nvestigators charge that after Mears removed her pants, she climbed atop the victim “and they engaged in intercourse.” The victim said that Mears--who was holding the machete--bit him on the arm and “continued to have sex with him after he attempted to end” the encounter.

I feel safer already. I supposed she forced him to get it up too.

[Patriam1066]

She’d have to use the machete on me. I couldn’t

[JurisDictum]

Japanese blogger stabbed to death after internet abuse seminar (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/26/japanese-blogger-kenichiro-okamoto-stabbed-to-death-after-internet-abuse-seminar)

One of Japan’s most prominent bloggers has been stabbed to death minutes after giving a seminar on how to resolve personal disputes on the internet.

Media reports said Kenichiro Okamoto, better known by his blogger name Hagex, died on Sunday evening after reportedly being attacked by a man he had argued with online.

...

Moments before the fatal stabbing, the 41-year-old had shared advice at a public event on how to deal with online disputes.

According to reports, the suspect had posted messages containing personal abuse directed at Okamoto and other commenters on the blog. The Mainichi quoted a source as saying that Okamoto “had got into trouble before with internet users over the content of the blog”

In a message purportedly written immediately after the stabbing, Matsumoto said he had continued to abuse Okamoto by opening a new account every time his existing account was deleted.

They must have played Red

[Raavak]

Was that a part of the seminar? "When all else fails slash the person with a machete."

[DinoTriz]

gets stabbed repeatedly and chokes up blood

"U...m...mmad?"

[Irulan]

https://www.gunoil.com/

plz don't stab me

you can abuse me, but plz don't stab me

also, machetes are scarrier than guns

IDK if I want to die to a machete or not, I'd prefer to not see it coming and have it be a critical hit/backstab/stealth attack overhit / overKO.

[Irulan]

Japanese people are crazy.

I mean, Aum Shinrikyo lol.

[Irulan]

Holesum, I hope your Klan don't kill you and bury you in the middle of no-where, I'll miss your postings.

[skarlorn]

Trump isn't racist

[DinoTriz]

https://www.gunoil.com/

"Oh cool, I do need some more CLP..."

*notices "TOYS"*

https://i.imgur.com/HP4G3hr.gif

[mickmoranis]

Democrats 1 year ago:

TRUMP is an embarrassment! He incites violence!

Democrats today:

"If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Maxine Waters said.

[Wonkie]

wheres the violence?

[Irulan]

"Oh cool, I do need some more CLP..."

*notices "TOYS"*

https://i.imgur.com/HP4G3hr.gif

Sorry the toys make you uncomfortable.

I want to find a girly alternative to that website, but that website is pretty good. I haven't bothered looking.

I mean generics work fine anyway. But I am in an extended asexual phase anyway.

[Irulan]

wheres the violence?

In his mind, cauze he is pretty violent and angry internally and expects people to do to him what he wants to do to them. Weird huh? ;)

[DinoTriz]

Sorry the toys make you uncomfortable.

They don't make me uncomfortable, I'm just messing with you

[DinoTriz]

wheres the violence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msOhC5ituSY

[Wonkie]

clicked, closed. nonphysical bullying is not violence, snowflakes.

[Irulan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbK7ZZE9EY

"Okay, I'd take issue with the sign too, it screams religious wackjob, but throwing a hissyfit and mentally breaking down like a 5 year old that needs his first ass-whooping is NOT how you counter it."

I think most people would agree.

Also, god damn it with these people? Really.

I've seen some dumb shit from wacko conservatives too, like going to the Pulse Memorial Anniversary and protesting homosexuality among the survivors. Not a fuckin peeep from Trump about protecting us gays from Muslims during pride month or even anything about Pulse from Rick Scott... btw... Thank god the COPS were there to chill that shit out. (not suppress freedumb speech). By the way no liberal progressives were violent and dumb during that incident. Most of the time people are passive, or protest peacefully. It's ALSO Trump who's made the wackos come out and lose their marbles, not just Maxine waters.

Some people deserve a genuine smack down. But 99% of the time we should ignore this dumb overrated shit.

Way to cherry pick some of the worst examples humanity has to offer. I suppose you want me to post a picture of that girl getting run down in Charlotteville?

Or a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

People get killed by conservative wackos all the time, not at protests, just going about their normie lives. Yet, we deal with it, and don't blame everyone.

Trump has really fucking lowered the bar though for both parties.

On August 5, 2012, a mass shooting took place at the gurdwara (Sikh temple) in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, where 40-year-old Wade Michael Page fatally shot six people and wounded four others.[3][4] Page committed suicide by shooting himself in the head after he was shot in the hip by a responding police officer.

Page was an American white supremacist and Army veteran from Cudahy, Wisconsin. Apart from the shooter, all of the dead were members of the Sikh faith. The incident drew responses from President Barack Obama and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Dignitaries attended candlelight vigils in countries such as the U.S., Canada, and India.[3][5][6] First Lady Michelle Obama visited the temple on August 23, 2012.[7]

And don't whine false flag, if you whine false flag, I whine false flag, you do realize that all throughout the 50's, 60's, and 70's people were paid to instigate racial violence, from both sides during the civil rights movement? Same thing here. There are conservative provocateurs posing as liberals in masks.

False flag or not QQing about it and using it as an excuse to attack the other side is bullshit.

[DinoTriz]

clicked, closed. nonphysical bullying is not violence, snowflakes.

lol yeah hitting someone in the side of the head with rocks and bike locks until they bleed is simply "nonphysical bullying".

[JurisDictum]

Is that the big bad authoritarian left you guys are worried about? Seems kind of like an out of shape 18 year old spaz to me. Mark could clearly kick his ass and he's like 105.

[DinoTriz]

Praise 4chan for catching Eric Clanton btw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoR8Td44UE)

[Wonkie]

lol yeah hitting someone in the side of the head with rocks and bike locks until they bleed is simply "nonphysical bullying".

that is correct but not what black gov't lady said to do. its more like peer pressure. let's talk about current news ok buddy?

e: i dont feel like fixing the phrasing

[JurisDictum]

Now this is just a theory.

Maybe holding signs and screaming shit at people on the street isn't as empowering to the public as the media tells us it is. Maybe its not that important or effective.

MAYBE the boomers didn't really do shit.

[DinoTriz]

that is correct but not what black gov't lady said to do. its more like peer pressure. let's talk about current news ok buddy?

e: i dont feel like fixing the phrasing

Yet when Trump farts you guys feel it's going to start a genocide...

Waters is actively telling people to harass others. Then she doubled down later on TV.

It's not violence but it sure doesn't help matters.

[Mblake1981]

Winning is more important.

Destroy the corporations like Facebook.

It is.

Yes, I agree with destroying Facebook, Youtube, Apple and Netflix.

But I also admit at this point it wouldn't help with my agenda.

[Wonkie]

Yet when Trump farts you guys feel it's going to start a genocide...

Waters is actively telling people to harass others. Then she doubled down later on TV.

It's not violence but it sure doesn't help matters.

does too. shehuck needs a diet anyway. the dsa crowd did her a big favor, many people are saying it. believe me.

[Wonkie]

stop feeding Wonkie dino, he's my only credible rival

😍

[Irulan]

It is.

Yes, I agree with destroying Facebook, Youtube, Apple and Netflix.

Thanks, I probably went overboard with the rest of that post, but I was rustling jimmies, thx for taking something good from it.

[Irulan]

Wonkie is a white cis male, according to wonkie. He's not one of us.

[Wonkie]

Wonkie is a white cis male, according to wonkie. He's not one of us.

a lady doesnt kiss and tell

[Irulan]

a lady doesnt kiss and tell

:cool:

OK Rosa Parks.

I hope you don't get victimized now that you've been outed.

Sorry, my blood sugar dropped, and you know, what, I'm not sorry. You're the best ally we have on this forum but, lol.

[JurisDictum]

10074

[DinoTriz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGLAwsjhqU

[DinoTriz]

:cool:

OK Rosa Parks.

I hope you don't get victimized now that you've been outed.

Sorry, my blood sugar dropped, and you know, what, I'm not sorry. You're the best ally we have on this forum but, lol.

Wonkie confirmed Trans-trender.

[Wonkie]

:cool:

OK Rosa Parks.

I hope you don't get victimized now that you've been outed.

Sorry, my blood sugar dropped, and you know, what, I'm not sorry. You're the best ally we have on this forum but, lol.

:mad:

[LulzSect©]

yiff in hell

[DinoTriz]

yiff in hell

https://i.imgur.com/PwvbZvl.jpg

[Irulan]

https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#jidGdPk8Tiqt

*head spins around in circles*

[Irulan]

10074

I don't know why you posted this, but it's pretty hot.

[DinoTriz]

https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#jidGdPk8Tiqt

Two wrongs don't make a right.

He was wrong and so is Waters.

[Wonkie]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

He was wrong and so is Waters.

going in circles here man. was the red hen violence?

[Irulan]

:mad:

I can't help you. I'm :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

you should listen 2 trump moar

[Irulan]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

He was wrong and so is Waters.

I agree. :mad::mad::mad:

[DinoTriz]

going in circles here man. was the red hen violence?

I'm not talking about the Red Hen.

The restaurant should be able to deny service.

I don't think it's a healthy thing to do, but that's her right.

My worry is politicians telling their constituents that they should be harassing people who have differing opinions.

That never ends well.

[Wonkie]

I'm not talking about the Red Hen.

The restaurant should be able to deny service.

I don't think it's a healthy thing to do, but that's her right.

My worry is politicians telling their constituents that they should be harassing people who have differing opinions.

That never ends well.

waters spoke subsequently to and in the context of the red hen incident. learn to recognize context. your argument is all well and good in a vacuum but profoundly retarded in the prime.

hope this helps

[DinoTriz]

waters spoke subsequently to and in the context of the red hen incident. learn to recognize context. your argument is all well and good in a vacuum but profoundly retarded in the prime.

hope this helps

You think you have one on the hook, Wonkie, but I ain't bitin'.

She's clearly talking about escalation. She wants this to happen on a wider scale.

What happens when more people do this? More opportunities for violence.

It's the same shit with the rallies during 2016. Conflict breeds more conflict.

As a partisan, I hope people take her advice. As an American, I hope cooler heads prevail.

[skarlorn]

So Wonkie also thinks the cake maker was right to say no

[DinoTriz]

So Wonkie also thinks the cake maker was right to say no

[Wonkie]

oh i see the problem now. you're a moron!

[DinoTriz]

oh i see the problem now. you're a moron!

mad

[mickmoranis]

liberals like to remind us that in 1840 unskilled and non english speeking people were the majority of immigrants that made america.

but the leave the fuck out the part about how we were GIVING AWAY FREE LAND BACK THEN TOO

times change, we no longer need to accept anyone to build a nation.

NOW can we stop pretending like we can fit everyone in teh god damn world in this country and STILL pay for everyones god damn healthcare?

Canada and Australia have same policy as the USA towards immigration.

TYL

[JurisDictum]

So Wonkie also thinks the cake maker was right to say no

To me, details matter a lot on that one. In General, if its just a cake for gay people -- wtf should you be able to refuse service on the basis of that? That's no different than a mechanic deciding he doesn't want to fix gay cars. But you obviously shouldn't be able to force people to make a cake that looks a certain way.

[Wonkie]

mad

honestly yes. i misjudged you. very mad at myself.

:(