******Official politics thread ******

[Wonkie]

he did the same thing previously and received a suspended sentence. he went there knowing the outcome. political martyrdom is a good grift.

inv to discord

[Wonkie]

So you support jailing journalists for reporting on a court case?

why are you defending a convicted criminal?

[Wonkie]

Ah, so if someone committed a crime in the past you can trample all over his rights as much as you want lol

no, but he should go to jail for the crime he committed.

[Wonkie]

no i agree with jailing criminals. he's not a journalist he's a criminal.

[Wonkie]

disrupting a trial isn't journalism

[mickmoranis]

disrupting a trial isn't journalism

Uh you seem CNN? A trump press conference?

They constantly disrupt press conferences exactly the same dude wake up omg

[Wonkie]

How was he disrupting a trial?

He was outside.

Do you believe all journalists disrupt trials by doing their job?

no just phoney ones who want to milk donations from dimwits

hope he enjoys jail!

[Wonkie]

Uh you seem CNN? A trump press conference?

They constantly disrupt press conferences exactly the same dude wake up omg

no mick, press conferences and court trials are not the same thing

[Wonkie]

This is a guy who is afraid of Trump becoming too authoritarian...cheers about journalists getting jailed...

Lol shits funny

source?

[Wonkie]

You. You're the source.

let's see it then. whip it out big boi.

[Wonkie]

You're right here.

Show, not tell.

[Wonkie]

i want to see this "big proof" you have :)

[mickmoranis]

i want to see this "big proof" you have :)

about russian collusion? I know me too, youve been talking about it for 2 years

[Wonkie]

about russian collusion? I know me too, youve been talking about it for 2 years

trade? :o

[Wonkie]

I don't think you'd be able to deliver lol

i have a massive surplus

[Wonkie]

really tho sharing body pics online is the act of a lowborn vulgarian

like, if a girl sends even a bra pic, u know she's a slag

[Patriam1066]

thanks. its an hour of him standing around waiting to be arrested. he kills time by harassing bypassers. riveting journalism.

more importantly dino, https://mobile.twitter.com/FurRightDiscord is on the video description. i want the truth.

Anyone who opposes Pakistanis is a hero

Hope this helps. Iran and India will divide them at them at the Indus, as it should be

[Lojik]

Anyone watched "Who is America?" Lol

https://youtu.be/QkXeMoBPSDk

[Swish2]

I remember when Sasha Baron Cohen was funny

I don't

[JurisDictum]

Mean Girls -- Police addition (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/07/13/georgia-police-flipping-coin-arrest/)

Really, cuffed and put in back of a car for speeding to work? This is why I never go to these hillbilly states. The kind of retarded that goes down in their legal system is never worth the risk.

[Wonkie]

glenn greenwald outed and confirmed as russian knob polisher. 500k/year compensation from ebay man alone

chaboo you're shit at being gay

[Wonkie]

Meh, you'll like him again when he starts criticizing Republican policy

show the big proof. glenn is a juris thing you bumblefooted leafbottom.

:)

[JurisDictum]

I think its the case that Russians would like to sow discord in the American political system. And they seem to realize the best way to do it is to give platforms to leftwingers that tell the truth...

See, if you hire a bunch of Glen Beck and Alex Jones types -- people just rightfully assume their fans are nuts and believe stupid conspiracies and are mostly irrelevant.

But leftwingers pointing out corruption and problems with the capitalist system have some actual teeth. Even if the delivery is dramatized and they offer no solutions to all the problems they bring up.

[Patriam1066]

I think its the case that Russians would like to sow discord in the American political system. And they seem to realize the best way to do it is to give platforms to leftwingers that tell the truth...

See, if you hire a bunch of Glen Beck and Alex Jones types -- people just rightfully assume their fans are nuts and believe stupid conspiracies and are mostly irrelevant.

But leftwingers pointing out corruption and problems with the capitalist system have some actual teeth. Even if the delivery is dramatized and they offer no solutions to all the problems they bring up.

Sorry, those of us with brains know that both the Alex Jones and Abby Martin types happen to be equally braindead

hope this helps

[Ahldagor]

"As long as the Colossus stands, Rome will stand, when the Colossus falls, Rome will also fall, when Rome falls, so falls the world."
-Bede

[JurisDictum]

Sorry, those of us with brains know that both the Alex Jones and Abby Martin types happen to be equally braindead

hope this helps

Has Abby Martin ever claimed Trump smells like sulfur and might be a demon? Or talk about extra-terrestrials? Or say the illuminati or stone masons are behind everything?

Anything that comes close to that?

She might go too far -- I'm not an Abby Martin expert. But claiming America is an immoral empire isn't anything in the ballpark of Alex Jones.

[AzzarTheGod]

Has Abby Martin ever claimed Trump smells like sulfur and might be a demon? Or talk about extra-terrestrials? Or say the illuminati or stone masons are behind everything?

Anything that comes close to that?

She might go too far -- I'm not an Abby Martin expert. But claiming America is an immoral empire isn't anything in the ballpark of Alex Jones.

I'm big on Abby Martin. Have seen most of her career along with the Russia Today contract.

I saw nothing that approached conspiracy theory.

[Swish2]

...leftwingers pointing out corruption and problems with the capitalist system have some actual teeth.

Socialism/communism works though right?

[Patriam1066]

when Rome falls, so falls the world

[AzzarTheGod]

we smokin amish doinks scream at me

[clevergirl]

I'm going to speculate, a look alike will be returning from Helsinki and Trump is going to a Siberian gulag (or getting fed to dogs, he thinks he's going to be rescued by his buddy Putin, I don't know which it will be). And all hell will break lose in the west once Trumps actor is deposed. Russian assassin? Radiological? Impeachment? Dunno.

Putin probably wants to dispose of Trump though. He's dangerously close to solidifying American will against Russia via his ineptitude and flagrant disregard for the Majority.

Putin needs to keep the west on it's toes while he consolidates power and cements his empire financially with more neutral interests, who would have done business with the west instead.:o

I want the rights to this movie!

[JurisDictum]

Socialism/communism works though right?

Command economies don't work. Every other concept works fine if executed properly.

[clevergirl]

elon is getting brutally trolled

:)

calling hero ppl pedo's because they live in thailand isn't exactly personal responsability

really tho sharing body pics online is the act of a lowborn vulgarian

like, if a girl sends even a bra pic, u know she's a slag

I'm so sorry :( U prob don't mind slags tho :D

I love sluts

What is the phrase? "No one likes a tight ass?"

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/abDfeE9.gif

this shit is hilarious

[Raavak]

Command economies don't work. Every other concept works fine if executed properly.Communism was supposed to be implemented "post scarcity". i.e. in Star Trek when a machine materializes food and basic necessities. While there isn't enough necessities to go around, communism will collapse on itself.

[Wonkie]

it was a good shoot

[MagpieRockyl]

˙ouunp ¿ʇuǝɯɥɔɐǝdɯı ¿ןɐɔıƃoןoıpɐɹ ¿uıssɐssɐ uɐıssnɹ ˙pǝsodǝp sı ɹoʇɔɐ sdɯnɹʇ ǝɔuo ʇsǝʍ ǝɥʇ uı ǝsoן ʞɐǝɹq ןןıʍ ןןǝɥ ןןɐ puɐ ˙(ǝq ןןıʍ ʇı ɥɔıɥʍ ʍouʞ ʇ,uop ı 'uıʇnd ʎppnq sıɥ ʎq pǝnɔsǝɹ ǝq oʇ ƃuıoƃ s,ǝɥ sʞuıɥʇ ǝɥ 'sƃop oʇ pǝɟ ƃuıʇʇǝƃ ɹo) ƃɐןnƃ uɐıɹǝqıs ɐ oʇ ƃuıoƃ sı dɯnɹʇ puɐ ıʞuısןǝɥ ɯoɹɟ ƃuıuɹnʇǝɹ ǝq ןןıʍ ǝʞıןɐ ʞooן ɐ 'ǝʇɐןnɔǝds oʇ ƃuıoƃ ɯ,ı

˙ɥƃnoɥʇ dɯnɹʇ ɟo ǝsodsıp oʇ sʇuɐʍ ʎןqɐqoɹd uıʇnd ˙pɐǝʇsuı ʇsǝʍ ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ ssǝuısnq ǝuop ǝʌɐɥ pןnoʍ oɥʍ 'sʇsǝɹǝʇuı ןɐɹʇnǝu ǝɹoɯ ɥʇıʍ ʎןןɐıɔuɐuıɟ ǝɹıdɯǝ sıɥ sʇuǝɯǝɔ puɐ ɹǝʍod sǝʇɐpıןosuoɔ ǝɥ ǝןıɥʍ sǝoʇ s,ʇı uo ʇsǝʍ ǝɥʇ dǝǝʞ oʇ spǝǝu uıʇnd

˙ʎʇıɹoɾɐɯ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ pɹɐƃǝɹsıp ʇuɐɹƃɐןɟ puɐ ǝpnʇıʇdǝuı sıɥ ɐıʌ ɐıssnɹ ʇsuıɐƃɐ ןןıʍ uɐɔıɹǝɯɐ ƃuıʎɟıpıןos oʇ ǝsoןɔ ʎןsnoɹǝƃuɐp s,ǝɥ:o

¡ǝıʌoɯ sıɥʇ oʇ sʇɥƃıɹ ǝɥʇ ʇuɐʍ ı

It will certainly be an interesting next few months for the United States ppl.

Edit: sorry for formatting - everything is upside down here in Austraya!

[Wonkie]

impeach the traitor

100% serious

[Mblake1981]

impeach the traitor

100% serious

Where are you from again and how much is it worth to you?

[skarlorn]

i'm always impressed by how much ppl think they really know the truth

ya fcukin boners

[mickmoranis]

look at all those democrats https://youtu.be/Kv3p8kIyqLI

now that's the truth.

[AzzarTheGod]

big doinks in amish

[Mblake1981]

Make them a deal, if they really want it.

1. Full reimbursement to the Trumps for all the money lost plus a payment for service, allowed to walk away and go back to the way they wish to live their happy lives. Hands off. Consider it democracy and water under the bridge.

2. Price of having a voice go away into the night never to be heard from in the public domain again concerning Politics. Set up a fake Powerball winner and transfer the funds. Full 5 after taxes, literally pocket lint to some. Hands off, Done. (he was trolled for 20 million a few years back)

3. They get their impeachment, get to brag and elect a new President.

[AzzarTheGod]

look at all those democrats https://youtu.be/Kv3p8kIyqLI

now that's the truth.

fuck that im talkin doinks off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6lgdkrf4E

[mickmoranis]

Make them a deal, if they really want it.

1. Full reimbursement to the Trumps for all the money lost plus a payment for service, allowed to walk away and go back to the way they wish to live their happy lives. Hands off. Consider it democracy and water under the bridge.

2. Price of having a voice go away into the night never to be heard from in the public domain again concerning Politics. Set up a fake Powerball winner and transfer the funds. Full 5 after taxes, literally pocket lint to some. Hands off, Done. (he was trolled for 20 million a few years back)

3. They get their impeachment, get to brag and elect a new President.

how about just find a candidate that is worth voting for and moving the fuck on with your life?

[Wonkie]

Where are you from again and how much is it worth to you?

america and i don't understand the question

impeach trump

[MagpieRockyl]

Just because he disagrees with you doesn't make him a traitor.

Do leftists even support the concept of democracy anymore?

They sound more fit to live in Russia or somewhere.

They should leave the US to more freedom-loving, tolerant people like Republicans.

The Left has really shown it's not fit to live in democratic societies. We tried to teach them, but they're just animals. They can't help it.

Dino doesn't watch the news, he just defaults to anti liberal spin

[skarlorn]

trump:

PUTIN GEWD

US AGENCIES BAD


Terump

[Cecily]

Believe me.

[Topgunben]

A desire to be transgender should be identified as a mental illness. These poor people are dilusional, and liberals keep telling them to keep pushing for acceptance. What they really need is therapy.

I live in Portland, OR and am around trannys on a weekly basis. My experience has shown Me something is definitely not right with trannys thought processes. It goes well beyond just wanting to look like the opposite sex. Before 10 years ago, everyone knew these folks were not right in the head. Now liberals esteem them as the mouthpiece of modern rationale and social advancement.

I'm not saying we need to jail these folks or punish them, if they want to dress or act as the opposite sex, so be it. However, let's not act like that kind of behavior is sane and healthy.

[mickmoranis]

and liberals keep telling them to keep pushing for acceptance

regardless of your stance on the above poster's concerns you must agree the facts are true the liberals are worshipers of satan so they will push for the acceptance of any of the dark lords bastardizations so evidence based science would indicate he may be onto something

[Cecily]

A desire to be transgender should be identified as a mental illness.

100% agreed. Anyone that wants to be transgender is crazy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'll run your suggestion by my higher ups
and see if we can't get that put in the agenda.

[Cecily]

A desire to be transgender should be identified as a mental illness. These poor people are dilusional, and liberals keep telling them to keep pushing for acceptance. What they really need is therapy.

I live in Portland, OR and am around trannys on a weekly basis. My experience has shown Me something is definitely not right with trannys thought processes. It goes well beyond just wanting to look like the opposite sex. Before 10 years ago, everyone knew these folks were not right in the head. Now liberals esteem them as the mouthpiece of modern rationale and social advancement.

I'm not saying we need to jail these folks or punish them, if they want to dress or act as the opposite sex, so be it. However, let's not act like that kind of behavior is sane and healthy.

You, on the other hand, seem VERY normal. In that non-critical thinking type of way typical of someone of solidly average or below average intelligence. I'm not saying we needa put em in jail *ahyuk* just need them to see a therapist. Fucking idiot.

[Topgunben]

You, on the other hand, seem VERY normal. In that non-critical thinking type of way typical of someone of solidly average or below average intelligence. I'm not saying we needa put em in jail *ahyuk* just need them to see a therapist. Fucking idiot.

If you read what I wrote, I also stated that if that is how they want to live, so be it. Just because you sincerely defend trannys does not make your thinking accurate. Sincerity does not equal accuracy.

[Mblake1981]

how about just find a candidate that is worth voting for and moving the fuck on with your life?

We can dream can't we.

america and i don't understand the question

impeach trump

k, I have already browsed Reddit. Please continue with a rant about majority votes or something.

[Cecily]

If you read what I wrote, I also stated that if that is how they want to live, so be it. Just because you sincerely defend trannys does not make your thinking accurate. Sincerity does not equal accuracy.

Mighty kind of you to be ok with us living how we want to live. Thank you.

[Wonkie]

trump bad

[Cecily]

Yeah, but Pence is worse.

[Wonkie]

not really

[Cecily]

Pence is pretty much Hilter to Pro-choice and LGBT people.

He caused a massive HIV outbreak in the state he governed...

I feel safer with Trump leading the country.

[mickmoranis]

https://youtu.be/U95AmR3t6iU

oh lol maybe hillary might actually want to watch out cus trump might hold true on his promise to put hillary in jail after all

[Wonkie]

Pence is pretty much Hilter to Pro-choice and LGBT people.

He caused a massive HIV outbreak in the state he governed...

I feel safer with Trump leading the country.

this is called stockholm syndrome

[Mblake1981]

Single white female syndrome.

[Mblake81]

Pence is pretty much Hilter to Pro-choice and LGBT people.

He caused a massive HIV outbreak in the state he governed...

I feel safer with Trump leading the country.

AUSTIN, Ind. — On the evening of March 24, 2015, Sheriff Dan McClain got an unexpected voice mail: “This is Gov. Mike Pence calling. I would welcome the opportunity to get your counsel on what’s going on in Scott County.”

What was going on was unprecedented in Indiana and rare in the United States: H.I.V. was spreading with terrifying speed among intravenous drug users in this rural community near the Kentucky border. Local, state and federal health officials were urging the governor to allow clean needles to be distributed to slow the outbreak.

https://i.imgur.com/rrgjeQk.jpg?1

But Indiana law made it illegal to possess a syringe without a prescription. And Mr. Pence, a steadfast conservative, was morally opposed to needle exchanges on the grounds that they supported drug abuse. As Sheriff McClain called the governor back, the pressure was mounting. The number of new H.I.V. cases in the county was nearing 90. “Don’t give me any political views; I want to know your opinion,” the sheriff recalled Mr. Pence saying. Sheriff McClain, who was not a fan of needle exchanges, was quick to reply: “I believe the only thing we can do to stop or slow this thing is to get clean needles out there.”

On March 23, more than two months after the outbreak was detected, Mr. Pence said he was going to go home and pray on it. He spoke to the sheriff the next night. Two days later, he issued an executive order allowing syringes to be distributed in Scott County.

Tens of thousands of them were handed out over the following months. And the program, along with drug therapy and aggressive outreach, slowed the flood of new H.I.V. cases to a trickle. State Representative Ed Clere, a Republican who was among those pushing the governor to approve the needle exchange, said he was relieved when Mr. Pence finally did so. He also wished it had been done sooner. “It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Mr. Clere said.

https://i.imgur.com/vsglEi2.jpg?1

[Wonkie]

.

fuck em

[Mead]

Ouch

[Cecily]

Yeah. That's what happens when you eliminate funding to the only source of free HIV screening available to rural individuals and refuse to allow needle exchanges. You don't get points for putting out fires you started.

[Mblake81]

fuck em

Ouch

Yeah. That's what happens when you eliminate funding to the only source of free HIV screening available to rural individuals and refuse to allow needle exchanges. You don't get points for putting out fires you started.

I am conflicted on this. On the one hand, we are told most of our lives including rural schools which I came from that drugs are bad and stay away.

One the other hand, how long are you going to need someone to take care of you. I mean, sure, help a guy up when he falls down but when he keeps falling repeatedly I hope he has someone that loves him because society is going to say F U.. which it will and we are told most of our lives that.

Does the money for those needles come from tax payers or private donations to help the sick? If it comes from tax payers then you are literally taxing the productive to take care of people who didn't listen. Of course we just can't turn our backs can we? religion teaches otherwise of most peoples compassion says otherwise to. So where is the line drawn, is it where society says it is but you can cross it and still expect help?

I have an uncle in a similar situation, he is mentally ill and has a hard time taking care of himself. My mother even moved him in with her for five years and took care of him, got him back in reasonable health. He did good with her aid, took his medicine and ate food. When he moved out it was only a small matter of time before the local drug guys got him on some hard stuff again. I love Rick, hes a good guy and I learned first hand that you can't help some people. They don't have a voice inside that wants help and to get better. Better is being blasted to Mars from something made in some guys bathtub.

That same society has elements of people that prey upon it, they are walking money. Easy to hook. Same place that will give you a helping hand will use the other to bust your teeth out.

[Cecily]

Does the money for those needles come from tax payers or private donations to help the sick? If it comes from tax payers then you are literally taxing the productive to take care of people who didn't listen. Of course we just can't turn our backs can we? religion teaches otherwise of most peoples compassion says otherwise to. So where is the line drawn, is it where society says it is but you can cross it and still expect help?

I have an uncle in a similar situation, he is mentally ill and has a hard time taking care of himself. My mother even moved him in with her for five years and took care of him, got him back in reasonable health. He did good with her aid, took his medicine and ate food. When he moved out again it was only a small matter of time before the local drug guys got him on some hard stuff again. I love Rick, hes a good guy and I learned first hand that you can't help some people. They don't have a voice inside that wants help and to get better. Better is being blasted to Mars from something made in some guys bathtub.

I think that it's a necessary investment in the overall health of our populace. That outbreak we're talking about led to, I think, about 180 new cases of HIV. That's 180 more life long vectors for the potential spread of HIV and each will require medication for the rest of their lives. It's cheaper to invest in prevention.

I'm sorry about your uncle. I don't agree with you about the voice inside not being there though. It's there. All addicts have it. It's just being drown out by a different voice that's way louder. Sometimes you have to fail a hundred times to succeed once. It takes saintly patience to stay involved with that and I can't fault anyone who gives up on an addict. I just don't think anyone is beyond redemption as long as they're alive.

[Ahldagor]

Would Pence pardon like Ford?

[MagpieRockyl]

After Trumps obeisance witnessed today - there is no doubt in my mind that Putin has the pee tapes.

[Domo]

After Trumps obeisance witnessed today - there is no doubt in my mind that Putin has the pee tapes.

I wish it becomes true...
This shit is already better then Game of Thrones, House of Cards and Married with Children combined.

It will be also very funny when Mick will try to protect his FÜHRER and start telling us that such fetish is very normal and that he do it twice a week too etc.

[Ahldagor]

Why? Because he shook his hand, rather than punching him in the jaw?

Trump could've shit on Putin's chest and you would've still believed he has the pee tapes.

I never understood why people think Trump would be afraid of being called out for peeing on prostitutes anyway.

Is it possible to blackmail someone with no shame?

The vids legit, and Trump's a receiver. You can blackmail them if they're concerned with their image to the degree a textbook narcissist is. Not to mention if FLOTUS decides to leave...

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/cT2cvBJ.png?1

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/rZsgrvb.jpg

[Wonkie]

Part of the dossier includes that Trump walked into the bathroom, closed the door, and yelled "I hate Black people!".

Anyone who knows Trump, knows that wouldn't be his style.

The dossier sounds like it was written by 23 year old college students with pink hair.

you're referring to the phony one 4chan put out

fake.news.

[mickmoranis]

CNN calls Trump a traitor and then advocates for a "Shadow Government" to take down a sitting President.

Shadow Government...like a Deep State?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2mhbxnIbDo

I've gotta admit Trump's been great fun but the prospect of what life in America could be like even if Democrats win fair and square, when the alpha conservatives take over the #resist torch, woo baby, blood on the streets. I can't wait! More power to em!

[Domo]

Are you kink shaming Trump now?

Aren't you European? You guys eat Nutella with your ass. You don't exactly have a moral leg to stand on.

I didnt said Europe is greater/better or anythink. I just find this whole Trump-MAGA-wanking pretty funny.

My favorit part about it, is the "Imagin Obama did this..." game.

Fuck, if Obama did what Trump did so far, rednecks would start a Pick-Up Convoy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss) to Washington. And the head of Alex Jones would explode.

[Wonkie]

It seems like Democrats sperg out no matter who beats them.

Like the mentally challenged kid in school who freaks out and smashes his plate of chicken nuggets on the floor in front of everyone.

It's like, holy shit....learn how to lose an election gracefully.

Next it'll be "Aliens" instead of "Russians".

how do you reconcile "accept the results" with needing 50ish tries to get obamacare repealed?

[Wonkie]

Obamacare was passed in Congress. I'm talking about a national election here. You know, a democratic process.


what on earth does this mean

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/1sBGcNd.png

[Wonkie]

It means you can't compare the two.

you're not the boss of me

[Wonkie]

oh i see. it's the well akshually thing where representative democracy isn't really democracy

okay

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/1sBGcNd.png

He seems really happy. Kinda miss partying with rednecks.

[bloodmuffin]

We still crying about Trump in here?

Only 6 years left.

[Cecily]

We went to an island on the river. Got drunk. Went fishing. Cooked catfish. Got Drunk.
That catfish was really good too. I'm pretty sure I had fun.

[Cecily]

oh i see. it's the well akshually thing where representative democracy isn't really democracy


That's because our founding fathers realized that democracy would never work with an uneducated populace.
We're much smarter these days. #MAGA #Buildthewall

[Cecily]

Hillary is obviously a self-interested evil corporate shill. But she's a career politician and I feel like she would have been OUR self-interested evil corporate shill. Also, I wanna be a hacker someday and we can't switch America to the cyberpunk genre until megacorps take over.

[mickmoranis]

Hillary is obviously a self-interested evil corporate shill. But she's a career politician and I feel like she would have been OUR self-interested evil corporate shill. Also, I wanna be a hacker someday and we can't switch America to the cyberpunk genre until megacorps take over.

this is classic neo liberalism

"you idiot republicans vote against your interests!"

"B-b-b-but I think the evil corperate shill will be OUR evil corperate shill!"

meanwhile the same laws youre upset about today were enacted by HER administration.

meanwhile they ignore flint

meanwhile they ignore the deaths of millions of children in gang lands in thier own states and cities

meanwhile they spend more on military than ANY republican in history

meanwhile meanwhile meanwhile




















come on people... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE stop pretending one side is different START standing up for your SELF

[Wonkie]

this is classic neo liberalism

"you idiot republicans vote against your interests!"

"B-b-b-but I think the evil corperate shill will be OUR evil corperate shill!"

meanwhile the same laws youre upset about today were enacted by HER administration.

meanwhile they ignore flint

meanwhile they ignore the deaths of millions of children in gang lands in thier own states and cities

meanwhile they spend more on military than ANY republican in history

meanwhile meanwhile meanwhile




















come on people... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE stop pretending one side is different START standing up for your SELF

tu quoque

[Cecily]

Trump is a self interested evil corporate shill himself. The difference is he represents his own corporation.
Conflict of interest IMO. SAD. Hilary would have been equally bad. Believe me.

The difference between the two would have been a career politician not embarrassing us on a global stage regularly.

[LulzSect©]

nuke middle america

[mickmoranis]

Trump is a self interested evil corporate shill himself. The difference is he represents his own corporation.
Conflict of interest IMO. SAD. Hilary would have been equally bad. Believe me.

The difference between the two would have been a career politician not embarrassing us on a global stage regularly.

the difference is one of supports the bill of rights the other one works for an establishment that wants to disolve the bill of rights and divide the nation into two hate filled groups and dominate the planet using the military while we stay at home and rip apart our own history and pretend that we are against imperialism

Sorry I think the establishment shill that is protecting the constitution is the one Ill be voting for and the one that wants to get rid of my rights as an individual is the one that is working against my interests.

[Patriam1066]

I think that it's a necessary investment in the overall health of our populace. That outbreak we're talking about led to, I think, about 180 new cases of HIV. That's 180 more life long vectors for the potential spread of HIV and each will require medication for the rest of their lives. It's cheaper to invest in prevention.

[Mblake81]

Drug nation. Suppose people better get in touch with the times. Take responsibility for your downfallen.

Drugs are obviously the popular ticket. Get on board because they are not going anywhere, too much money to be made is one reason.

https://i.imgur.com/zAnggRg.jpg?1

[Cecily]

I'd blame pharmaceutical companies, lobbyists, doctors, and politicians more than hippies these days. Recreational drug use didn't start or end with the hippie subculture. I think expanded legal access to marijuana will fill that need, and I do think it's a societal need (see prohibition), enough that harder drugs are too inconvenient to bother with when you can get a joint from the gas station instead.

[Topgunben]

Pence is pretty much Hilter to Pro-choice and LGBT people.

He caused a massive HIV outbreak in the state he governed...

I feel safer with Trump leading the country.

Pence CAUSED a massive HIV outbreak?

Is it typical for liberals to forego any semblance of personal responsibility?

[Wonkie]

Pence CAUSED a massive HIV outbreak?

Is it typical for liberals to forego any semblance of personal responsibility?

my view on the topic is completely childish too, but that doesn't get us anywhere on managing or containing the problem.

:(

[Cecily]

Pence CAUSED a massive HIV outbreak?


Cause and effect. Between needle exchanges being illegal and de-funding Planned Parenthood, a source of free HIV screening, over moral objections, Pence created a perfect storm of stupidity that caused horrific consequences for his constituents. Yes.

[Patriam1066]

Pence CAUSED a massive HIV outbreak?

Is it typical for liberals to forego any semblance of personal responsibility?

Not liberal

We’re all paying for it anyway. Prevention is cheaper than HIV drug cocktails for life. It’s that simple. We’re not gonna let people die in the streets and the government already pays 50% of the national cost of healthcare. May as well be more efficient

[clevergirl]

Pence did very much help cause it. Just because he buckled and finally decided to help put back the preventative measures that had held it somewhat in check doesn't make him a good guy.

Pence is a really bad man. Don't take my word for it though. Please discover that for yourself, so that you can let it sink into the core of your being.

Pence may even be delusional and think he is a good guy and use that to justify his really naive and extreme positions. It is still no excuse for the political agendas he serves and supports that are based in prejudice bias rather than reason.

[Mblake1981]

Pence CAUSED a massive HIV outbreak?

Is it typical for liberals to forego any semblance of personal responsibility?

Because he didn't take real measures to prevent adults from doing something. Their choice is his fault, how leadership works when you fail to correct them. You know, "I am not your slave maaaan, don't tell me what to do"


my view on the topic is completely childish too, but that doesn't get us anywhere on managing or containing the problem.

:(

Case in point. Morals matter except when it gets in the way of effectiveness.

Cause and effect. Between needle exchanges being illegal and de-funding Planned Parenthood, a source of free HIV screening, over moral objections, Pence created a perfect storm of stupidity that caused horrific consequences for his constituents. Yes.

See above, it is where the blame falls. It is childish and a waste of time to shame them for making a bad choice, they are adults who are free to choose what they will. But we are still responsible for them and you can't run away from that, causes a bigger issue to form. It is why women are becoming more prominent in the health care fields, while men may have led the way in the past it is the females who are naturally compassionate in such ways.


Not liberal

We’re all paying for it anyway. Prevention is cheaper than HIV drug cocktails for life. It’s that simple. We’re not gonna let people die in the streets and the government already pays 50% of the national cost of healthcare. May as well be more efficient

The pragmatic view of an elder citizen who is not concerned about the problems just the solutions. All in all, hes probably right in the long run. Have to give up the childish denial of reality and embrace the fact adults are free to choose even if that choice is foolish. What hasn't been established is where the cut off line is. I know where the old version is but not this one. The lady says there is none, practically ever. What does the man say?

[clevergirl]

I guess we'll just have to go back to "innocent" "children" getting HIV due to the hand of God being a total dick slap in the face before we care about the spread of HIV or vaccinations, if they ever become a thing.

Yes, people do bad, very amoral, foolish things. However, that is not an excuse to turn a blind eye to the problem or use that problem and those peoples amoral choices as a scapegoat to enact ones own beliefs and prejudices on another.

Jesus Christ wouldn't be unnecessarily cruel to people with HIV just because they were gay or did drugs. And he would indeed see the greater good in acknowledging people are flawed and imperfect.

We can use imperfection as a choice and excuse, or we can do better. The choice is ours.

As the guy in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade says: Choose wisely.

[Patriam1066]

We’re paying for it anyway guys. Yalls libertarian world where people embrace freedom of choice, even at the cost of dead citizens, isn’t going to happen

It has nothing to do with personal responsibility. I’m all for being as harsh as humanly possible to addicts, the overweight, the unemployed... it’s just that that gets us precisely no where.

[Mblake1981]

I guess we'll just have to go back to "innocent" "children" getting HIV due to the hand of God being a total dick slap in the face before we care about the spread of HIV or vaccinations, if they ever become a thing.

As the guy in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade says: Choose wisely.

"I am here, I am real. I have a voice with a heart and mind. I am one of Gods creatures and he would have compassion for me, consider this. I am good and functional when allowed but I may have made some bad choices, to err is human and I am human. I happen to have an issue with drugs and my sexual orientation may not be part of the mainstream acceptance. There is a chance that if you don't make wise choices while considering me then I may spread diseases sexually through the community, please don't be a blind child looking upon me"

[clevergirl]

I definitely have an issue with drugs (I don't use them or like them). And my solution is to look for better ways to deal with the drugs.

As far as sexuality goes. I can't weigh in there. I don't have sex or actively date people or seek out romantic interests. However, everyone I know more intimately than "hello, stranger" has done pervy things that could very well be considered quite sexually deviant by one standard or another. Humanity is humpy, especially below the age of 40. If there was a way to impart my wisdom or lack of drive on others, I would some how share it if I could. I don't think it will work for the majority however. I caution my family about their sexual practices. Perhaps, I'm stunted and will never mature as a sexual being. Everquest is fun. (TM)

[Mblake1981]

We’re paying for it anyway guys. Yalls libertarian world where people embrace freedom of choice, even at the cost of dead citizens, isn’t going to happen

It has nothing to do with personal responsibility. I’m all for being as harsh as humanly possible to addicts, the overweight, the unemployed... it’s just that that gets us precisely no where.

So where is the cut off line?

[Patriam1066]

I wish the pentagon was responsible with my money. No one ever asks for any responsibility or accountability on the republican side unless it’s for individuals who are generally the most underprivileged. I’m guessing a huge number of IV drug users suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but who cares

We have plenty of money for military adventurism in Yemen, Syria, and soon Iran, but kids in flint drink lead water. Who cares I guess

Beto 2018

[Cecily]

Don't underestimate the destructive power of good old depression.

[Mblake1981]

I wish the pentagon was responsible with my money. No one ever asks for any responsibility or accountability on the republican side unless it’s for individuals who are generally the most underprivileged. I’m guessing a huge number of IV drug users suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but who cares

We have plenty of money for military adventurism in Yemen, Syria, and soon Iran, but kids in flint drink lead water. Who cares I guess

Beto 2018

So are you suggesting the cut off line should be a more top down focus where the cut is actually on the upper end of leaders because they make choices that harm the ones beneath them?

The focus should not be on the populace but rather people who allow war to continue and don't care if mentally sick people die or if some can get clean water.

If this is your position, ok. I think you have cut those that can actually perform, ableism I think they call it. Is there no cut off line for the other side? are they free from this because they are not the ones in a position of responsibility? like it was stated earlier, it falls with the person in charge.

Edit: Oops, I did a "so you're saying". Apologies, Patriam (serious)

[Topgunben]

I wish the pentagon was responsible with my money. No one ever asks for any responsibility or accountability on the republican side unless it’s for individuals who are generally the most underprivileged. I’m guessing a huge number of IV drug users suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but who cares

We have plenty of money for military adventurism in Yemen, Syria, and soon Iran, but kids in flint drink lead water. Who cares I guess

Beto 2018

And who's fault is it that Flints water is full of lead? For sure it must be Donald Trump cuz he rasis White dud

[Cecily]

I'm for spending less on prevention when we need less prevention. We can prevent most HIV transmission by taking appropriate action. The underlying cause here is drug addiction. We need a standardized approach to detox addicts and programs in place to prevent new addicts before we can even think about cutting those current programs. Those don't exist and it's an epidemic because of it.

[Patriam1066]

I wish the pentagon was responsible with my money. No one ever asks for any responsibility or accountability on the republican side unless it’s for individuals who are generally the most underprivileged. I’m guessing a huge number of IV drug users suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but who cares

We have plenty of money for military adventurism in Yemen, Syria, and soon Iran, but kids in flint drink lead water. Who cares I guess

Beto 2018

[Mblake1981]

And who's fault is it that Flints water is full of lead? For sure it must be Donald Trump cuz he rasis White dud

Forum Culture.

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I wish the pentagon was responsible with my money. No one ever asks for any responsibility or accountability on the republican side unless it’s for individuals who are generally the most underprivileged. I’m guessing a huge number of IV drug users suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but who cares

We have plenty of money for military adventurism in Yemen, Syria, and soon Iran, but kids in flint drink lead water. Who cares I guess

Beto 2018

ok.

[clevergirl]

America has a really weird crazy problem. No one wants to hold responsibility and because of individual freedom, it's wrong to remove peoples rights and responsibilities, and this is seen as very harsh and evil.

I mean, this all ties back into, our sort of massive, prison system.

I think we need to find a way to re-rehabilitate people to a point where they can have reasonably better lives if they choose too.

But like, we can't eliminate peoples suffering. We could put every schizophrenic depressed outlier in a safe cell and feed them exactly the # of calories they need and give them books and crayons, and these people will mostly still suffer tremendously no matter what we try to do for them.

The argument could be made that we as a society create classes of people who suffer unnecessarily due to environmental pollution, or simple greed. Families care less about each-other, and I think part of this is because everyone is turning into a paranoid schizophrenic to a degree where everyone just thinks the world is out to get them, or that someone else owes them something. These are the vocal people who are running up huge credit debt, and living off credit cards instead of savings. And I see both democrats and republicans doing this. It would have been unheard of 70 years ago for someone to run up $20,000 in debt and do stuff like sit around watching netflix for months on end. Yet this is kinda commonplace now. It seems like this will all eventually come to a head, because I don't see a gentle solution either. I wish there was, but don't.

Debtors prison isn't a proper solution. But, maybe, we need to cut the netflix off, and get these people woke. Some how. And make it illegal to open up lines of credit debt, or make usury illegal. They can still grow and cook their own food, they just refuse to.

There are too many older people, over 50+ in America that relied on social security, and decided to go into massive debt, and never got out, or got ground up in Vietnam, or became extremely obese at 400lb, it's too late for these people to restart and have super long healthy lives, and maybe go out peacefully, or gently, but they deserve something better than a bullet and a gutter perhaps. Everyone has their own reasons, but the bell is tolling within the next 20 years for these people, who where a significant portion of our economy and enabled the massive inflation we are seeing.

[Wonkie]

And who's fault is it that Flints water is full of lead? For sure it must be Donald Trump cuz he rasis White dud

you're better than this. i know it !

do you?

[Mblake1981]

Debtors prison isn't a proper solution. But, maybe, we need to cut the netflix off, and get these people woke. Some how. And make it illegal to open up lines of credit debt, or make usury illegal. They can still grow and cook their own food, they just refuse to.

The issue here is you are not technically wrong but you might be wrong. The reason is you would be causing harm to some peoples money, big no no. These are not all boyscouts who will see the error of their ways and make appropriate changes.

Wake up with a decapitated horse head laying in bed next to you. It's why during the recent tax talk I sided with giving the rich more breaks and thus more money. This allowed some like Buffet to go on stage and raise a honorable fuss about why he shouldn't have this. I am not certain but I would guess he didn't give the money back. Got to play the hero while walking out as the winner.

Call it paranoid, perhaps it is, but there are some desperate ruthless smart/dumb people in the world. Pay em a few bills to kill someone so your hands stay clean. Media is created occasionally with such. Hitman is a popular video game if we are getting basic.

The right thing, depending on where you stand of course, might be to cause the harm then take the death for the greater good of society.. some circles would consider you a great fool though.

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/vuOTJKl.png

[clevergirl]

The issue here is you are not technically wrong but you might be wrong. The reason is you would be causing harm to some peoples money, big no no. These are not all boyscouts who will see the error of their ways and make appropriate changes.

Wake up with a decapitated horse head laying in bed next to you. It's why during the recent tax talk I sided with giving the rich more breaks and thus more money. This allowed some like Buffet to go on stage and raise a honorable fuss about why he shouldn't have this. I am not certain but I would guess he didn't give the money back. Got to play the hero while walking out as the winner.

Call it paranoid, perhaps it is, but there are some desperate ruthless smart/dumb people in the world. Pay em a few bills to kill someone so your hands stay clean. Media is created occasionally with such. Hitman is a popular video game if we are getting basic.

The right thing, depending on where you stand of course, might be to cause the harm then take the death for the greater good of society.. some circles would consider you a great fool though.

I love this. Very deep. Very woke thoughts.

I hope those who are willing and able, live, free.

[Topgunben]

you're better than this. i know it !

do you?

I have the answer now. White men mind controlled democrats into being lazy bastard-bureaucrats that don't give a damn about their constituents, only about increasing public dependency on the government and the ever increasing size of the government, to the point where a person can't legally deficate on his own property, build a shelter, harvest water, or grow crops unless so permitted by said lazy bastard-bureaucrats.

[Topgunben]

https://i.imgur.com/vuOTJKl.png

Cooper is a swamp rat. Always has been, always will be.

Nice guy though

[Patriam1066]

And who's fault is it that Flints water is full of lead? For sure it must be Donald Trump cuz he rasis White dud

THe republican governor of Michigan at the time. PS, I voted trump bud. It’s just pragmatism is important. Also, what tools do you guys think our culture gives people to make them “personally responsible?” If people ever had two parents, chances are one of them dipped at the first sign of a challenge. Schools don’t teach critical thinking, church attendance is down. Across the board, the pragmatic Protestant culture is being diluted with bull shit

I’m not claiming to have a solution to any of these problems. I don’t want HIV users being “rewarded” with public centers where their bad habits are facilitated by the state. However, if that’s cheaper than the even more fucked up alternative, why rely on a philosophical position of “personal responsibility” that doesn’t apply to almost anyone else? The obese should act better. So should parents. For that matter, why isn’t Colin Powell a war criminal for advocating for the invasion of Iraq on false information on the floor of the UN? Again, I agree with yalls philosophical position. I just don’t think it does us any good to feel morally superior and correct as the government spends more money AND, as a result, we increase the number of HIV vectors.

In short, I miss George H.W. Bush

[MagpieRockyl]

lets put all the drug addicts in the army so all the healthy and nice soldier people can come home and make more republican children

[Patriam1066]

i'm for needle exchange to slow aids like i'm for UBI to keep JurisDictum from cannibalizing me over a campfire. Ayn Rand paradise is recipe for soviet gekokujo. i dont have a point except to upboat u all and say im RLY glad we have so many sensible Dads on this board lately.

Posted from silk pajamas

That’s my position on both of those too to be honest. Both are better and cheaper than the alternative

[Topgunben]

THe republican governor of Michigan at the time. PS, I voted trump bud. It’s just pragmatism is important. Also, what tools do you guys think our culture gives people to make them “personally responsible?” If people ever had two parents, chances are one of them dipped at the first sign of a challenge. Schools don’t teach critical thinking, church attendance is down. Across the board, the pragmatic Protestant culture is being diluted with bull shit

I’m not claiming to have a solution to any of these problems. I don’t want HIV users being “rewarded” with public centers where their bad habits are facilitated by the state. However, if that’s cheaper than the even more fucked up alternative, why rely on a philosophical position of “personal responsibility” that doesn’t apply to almost anyone else? The obese should act better. So should parents. For that matter, why isn’t Colin Powell a war criminal for advocating for the invasion of Iraq on false information on the floor of the UN? Again, I agree with yalls philosophical position. I just don’t think it does us any good to feel morally superior and correct as the government spends more money AND, as a result, we increase the number of HIV vectors.

In short, I miss George H.W. Bush

The republican governor is no more responsible for flints water problem than W. Bush was for Katrina. In both cases it was their response to the disaster that drew criticism.

And I agree with everything else you said.

[Mblake1981]

That’s my position on both of those too to be honest. Both are better and cheaper than the alternative

I like it when you comment that the USA you know is gone and now its mostly trannies talking about gun rights.

Hard to hold a line when you don't hold it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=wp-plfu59HA)

It doesn't make good sense. (https://youtu.be/AO-FXpyBbNs?t=3m48s)

[Cecily]

Thoughts and prayers isn't a sustainable solution to school shootings.

Sincerely,
a tranny

[Wonkie]

The republican governor is no more responsible for flints water problem than W. Bush was for Katrina. In both cases it was their response to the disaster that drew criticism.

And I agree with everything else you said.

then with whom does the buck stop?

[clevergirl]

lets put all the drug addicts in the army so all the healthy and nice soldier people can come home and make more republican children

Many older empires use to have two groups, the nobility, and the paid soldiers, and the unpaid, and conscripted soldiers. Russia had a very harsh system of taking the 1st born males during the Tzars to serve for life. These people would not be paid, but their family MAY get a small stipend. The rulers use to raise up nobility and officers and they use to become landed and get paid very well for their service.

Things could very well end up turning back to that. I don't think we'll see it in our lifetimes, but it is very much within the realm of human nature and I don't think we've outgrown our instinctual tendencies to govern this way. I'm not saying it's good, but it has happened just the way you think it could.

These days open world war would be very untenable for people like Putin and Trump and Hillary, Elon Musk, or whoever else. I think that's why they are trying to discourage it. Now the way to win wars is via manipulation and police action and small proxy wars and it's honestly far to confusing for me to make proper sense of, but if someone is going to make a warlike move, it's going to look much more like what happened with our elections, or with something like 100 Dupont plants getting shut down overseas. Or the Finnish oil pipeline getting blown up through terrorism, or sold outside the EU or whatever. It's not going to be bombs dropping on Moscow or Mar-a-lago.

Russia can't directly bomb us or our interests, but they can confuse us and distract us. We can focus on fighting over our own country within on their behalf.

[Mblake1981]

Thoughts and prayers isn't a sustainable solution to school shootings.

Sincerely,
a tranny

"I am not your slave maaa.. err ladyyy, you don't own me and you are not my real dad"

[clevergirl]

One day soon, I hope to finally break my forumquest and EQ addiction and have silk pajamas again as well. Right now I'm just naked and not helping.

[Cecily]

"I am not your slave maaa.. err ladyyy, you don't own me and you are not my real dad"

Sending my thoughts and prayers.

[Mblake1981]

Sending my thoughts and prayers.

That is not a sustainable solution.

[Patriam1066]

I like it when you comment that the USA you know is gone and now its mostly trannies talking about gun rights.

Hard to hold a line when you don't hold it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=wp-plfu59HA)

It doesn't make good sense. (https://youtu.be/AO-FXpyBbNs?t=3m48s)

The US is in decline and trannies have nothing to do with it

But I’ll be honest, I don’t understand your post and I never understand any of your posts

[Cecily]

nm

[clevergirl]

It's kind of impressive that in 2018 I can watch a bunch of juvenile kids on youtube, through TOR onion routing (didn't think it'd work), in a foreign land attempt to troll a sweet voice while running around with british avatars on international woman's day.

Thoughts and prayers for humanity.

[clevergirl]

send pics

I don't want my peers to shame me for engaging/encouraging this, btw google has a lot of hotter ppl than me on it. I also don't want to feed your addiction for naked strangers on the internet. Not that I find it particularly wrong or anything. I just don't want to be personally, an enabler, at this point in time.

[clevergirl]

you hotter than this barbarian?
https://i.imgur.com/p4g2BHE.jpg

Yeah, lol for sure, Love that, U need to do one with a DE face for cecily.

Though, kinda, a big barb like that is attractive, I don't think it's wrong to be a bit heavily built if your going to carry it like a blonde viking lord

[Wonkie]

I don't want my peers to shame me for engaging/encouraging this, btw google has a lot of hotter ppl than me on it. I also don't want to feed your addiction for naked strangers on the internet. Not that I find it particularly wrong or anything. I just don't want to be personally, an enabler, at this point in time.

that was something else and not meant sincerely. send pics.

[Cecily]

Yeah, lol for sure, Love that, U need to do one with a DE face for cecily.

Though, kinda, a big barb like that is attractive, I don't think it's wrong to be a bit heavily built if your going to carry it like a blonde viking lord

Why? No one's asked for my pic since they voted on P99's hottest *cough* female a few years ago.

[clevergirl]

I'm just saying, ogre with cecily mask. Kinda fun. Not in a sexual way.

[Cecily]

Not in a sexual way.

Not the first time I've been told that.

Sometimes I don't understand Cecily. I sense great darkness.

Like. That really nice outwardly great person who you go to talk to openly and honestly.

Then:
http://i.imgur.com/ljkD1ep.jpg


That thread was pretty good. 5 years ago JFC. I was so much nicer then.

[Nexii]

Being nice is overrated, bad girls have all the fun

[clevergirl]

Weird.

Wow that thread is very sickness. Sorry you endured all that. Not cool.

[mickmoranis]

The US is in decline and trannies have nothing to do with it

But I’ll be honest, I don’t understand your post and I never understand any of your posts

does this help?

يعجبني ذلك عندما تعلق بأن الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية التي تعرفها قد اختفت والآن تتحدث معظمها عن حقوق السلاح.

من الصعب الاحتفاظ بخط عند عدم الاحتفاظ به.

[Patriam1066]

Be more clever with racism

[Mblake1981]

As the RB would say,

FEDOR
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D
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https://i.imgur.com/QvMTCsz.jpg?1

Here is the next guy selected for office, President Steyer.

https://i.imgur.com/Zt8LFZc.jpg?1

[Mblake1981]

Mike: "Steyer is so much better than that orange baffoon, he looks so Presidential"

Juliet: "And successful without his daddies money"

Bobby: "He's not a traitor so he has my vote, looks like a straight shooter"

Ben: "You know what guys, what made me vote for him was the lack of 4chan memes during his campaign. God, I hated those when Trump was running."

Juliet: "Some of them were funny but I do agree, Ben"

Mike: "He is going to be hardcore on Putin and a real friend to our allies"

Bobby: "Presidential"

[mickmoranis]

Be more clever with racism

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

since I am not implying superiority, just that you cant read english based on your origin, then we have confirmed you are a lefty cry baby social justice warrior that wants attention for your heritage but only in the form of praise.

you have proven, you are no texan.

work on it

[mickmoranis]

despite trumps rhetoric he is going to turn out to be the most peaceful president in american history lol

what a fucking joke life is

[Wonkie]

anyway trump is now illegitimate and i think he knows it :D

[clevergirl]

Well, he's very iffy. A lot of people aren't very happy about this. I mean, 'he's technically your president' (I live in Istanbul) but kind of in a thoughts prayers and feelings only way for a lot of people. The rest of us (globally speaking) don't really have anything good to say about it.

I hope America feels better soon. I wish very much for the 1st world to be lead by less evil and more good. Less Cuban missiles, walls, and camps. And more hand holding and free needle programs.

[Wonkie]

Yeah doesn't he know that diplomacy is illegal?

you have a strange definition of diplomacy, comrade vlad

[clevergirl]

I choose the side that doesn't want war. To me, that's the "Good" side :)

I don't think either side wants war. I think some people on both side think war is inevitable. I don't know enough leftie Americans to like, say. I'm not a very American girl :o I've seen Michael Bolton mentioned a lot on these forums.

It would be sad to see Americans go to war, because I don't think they are really up to it. They are OK with a lot of well trained soldiers being supported by a big Army doing little things here and there. If the whole Army got in a shooting war with some civilians abroad I don't think it'd be good for you guys.

How would your 16 year old kids handle a draft? Your antifap people don't seem very brilliant. And your 2A ppl seem ready to rebel.

[Wonkie]

I don't think either side wants war. I think some people on both side think war is inevitable. I don't know enough leftie Americans to like, say. I'm not a very American girl :o I've seen Michael Bolton mentioned a lot on these forums.

It would be sad to see Americans go to war, because I don't think they are really up to it. They are OK with a lot of well trained soldiers being supported by a big Army doing little things here and there. If the whole Army got in a shooting war with some civilians abroad I don't think it'd be good for you guys.

How would your 16 year old kids handle a draft? Your antifap people don't seem very brilliant. And your 2A ppl seem ready to rebel.

I'd like to hear your opinion on Gulen

[clevergirl]

Shaking Putin's hand is proof of collusion

He said America was bad. I would shake Putins hand myself, but I'd also say to Mr. Putin.

America is great and there's nothing you can do about how great it's going to be! Then I would have turned to the Camera's and the world and American people and given a big double thumbs up and said 'Murica!!! FUCK YEAH.

[clevergirl]

I'd like to hear your opinion on Gulen

He is like your Mike Pence.

[clevergirl]

Trump never said America was bad.

Everywhere on google America is bad, especially in the Islamic world. I wish Turkey weren't such a shit country :D It was cooler in the 80s.

[clevergirl]

I made a website for a guy in Turkey all about converting young and violent Muslim fundamentalists to a more moderate view.

He constantly got death threats and one of his partners was shot for it.

Yeah, that is pretty terrible :(, people shouldn't complain about America so much.

I hope you guys stay cool. :cool:

[Wonkie]

He is like your Mike Pence.

lol. i think ill drop the subject entirely. please take this into consideration going forward.

[clevergirl]

lol. i think ill drop the subject entirely. please take this into consideration going forward.

He was such an enabler of Erdrogan and now look what happened. Erdrogan didn't want to share power. Pretty straight forward.

[Mblake1981]

I wish very much for the 1st world to be lead by less evil and more good. Less Cuban missiles, walls, and camps. And more hand holding and free needle programs.

Less evil and more good.

[Mblake1981]

I choose the side that doesn't want war. To me, that's the "Good" side :)

That can also be confused for pussyism. Sure go to war as long as I am not sent and I can complain about war.

pops in the cassette

WAR!, UGHH, what is it good for? Absolutely nothin', yeah say it again!

[Mblake1981]

America is great and there's nothing you can do about how great it's going to be! Then I would have turned to the Camera's and the world and American people and given a big double thumbs up and said 'Murica!!! FUCK YEAH.


SNL cuts to commercial break

[Mblake1981]

I'm a Conservative, I fully understand that thought.

I supported Bush and the Iraq War in the past.

I still support having a strong military.

However, we need to be smarter about conflicts. We need to return to "Speak softly and carry a big stick".

A kind word and a gun gets you further than a gun alone.

America has also become way too predictable when it comes to foreign policy. We need to switch it up.

Not going to war with Russia over election meddling isn't being a pussy, it's being smart.

Do you not think our intel agencies will retaliate? Because trust me, they will.

https://i.imgur.com/CiiVfOV.jpg?1

[MagpieRockyl]

I'm a Conservative, I fully understand that thought.

I supported Bush and the Iraq War in the past.



Bush's MO for going into iraq was weapons of mass destruction - which of course there were none OOPS LOL SORRY FOR KILLING EVERYONE JUST KIDDING *Hangs Saddam*


Not going to war with Russia over election meddling isn't being a pussy, it's being smart.

No one wants to go to war with Russia - but they DO want the President of the United States to fucking DO something about verified Russian government attacks on the US Election and our Energy Department. Like maybe say 'We won't lift sanctions unless you let up on this' or y'know, SOMETHING.

Instead its 'Putin said they didn't do it, so he didn't do it' as if he's more credible than our own AMERICAN intelligence agencies. pathetic

[MagpieRockyl]

Lol maybe YOU don't want to go to war with Russia. But plenty of people are licking their warmongering chops.


Fake and baseless statement. but keep defending it, show me some fox news post about antifa wanting to go to war with korea and russia and china lol.

[Mblake1981]

they DO want the President of the United States to fucking DO something about verified Russian government attacks on the US Election and our Energy Department. Like maybe say 'We won't lift sanctions unless you let up on this' or y'know, SOMETHING.

Instead its 'Putin said they didn't do it, so he didn't do it' as if he's more credible than our own AMERICAN intelligence agencies. pathetic

"I am listening and I will do something. I will place more sanctions on top of sanction while they smile at me, it's been so effective in the past. I will promote more cyber security that china will defeat and continue to steal our IP, we will figure of way of stopping it trust me. We will make more passive threats so people know we are not messing around. I will do SOMETHING even if it is for the sake of doing something so people can see I am responding. I will be different than that pathetic traitor, count on it."

https://i.imgur.com/Z3ZJIso.jpg

[JurisDictum]

The "verified Russian attacks on the US election" consist of twitter bots swaying people this way or that...its like 60 accounts caught doing this...

What about the millions of other ways this concept is use to sway people politically? Like energy companies convincing people that global warming is a hoax?

Its just a stupid thing to bitch about. Clinton was vehemently anti-Putin. So Putin spread some anti-clinton propaganda. That's the big conspiracy the media keeps trying to sell. That's what we know.

[MagpieRockyl]

And we already have a shit ton of sanctions on Russia, have had them for years.

How did that work out for us? Did they still hack us? Apparently.

So more sanctions won't do shit.

You might not know the timeline but OBAMA expelled and put up those sanctions on the heels of the election after getting intel of hacking interference. Not the other way around.

This whole Trump scramble to repair relations with Russia even in the face of Intel that Russia attacked us publicly released days before the meeting - its just absurd. At the very least, Trump is a weak leader, a poor negotiator, and ignorant to the effect of his complacency.

It's almost like he wants to build a Hotel there or something.

[MagpieRockyl]

The "verified Russian attacks on the US election" consist of twitter bots swaying people this way or that...its like 60 accounts caught doing this...



did you hear about the new indictments last Friday?

[LulzSect©]

Found the angry liberal

[MagpieRockyl]

Not a liberal

Also not a part of Fox's Trump cult

weird huh

[JurisDictum]

did you hear about the new indictments last Friday?

no.

They had like 2 years to produce something worthwhile so far?

The bottom line is no one changed any votes.

You're bitching about twitter bots.

OMG THESE GUYS USED TWITTER BOTS TO PERSUADE PEOPLE AGAINST CLINTON!!

That is the accusation stated in clear, non-vague way. Not dressed up with a bunch of hyperbole.

That Russia used twitter bots against Clinton.

[MagpieRockyl]

Maybe if you knew something you'd know we've had sanctions on Russia way before that. Since Ukraine.

So please, tell me more..

Man i forgot about the ukraine shit - Russia has been naughty, we should totally make them our allies.

[MagpieRockyl]

K juris you're ignorant go read up on the investigation

[Wonkie]

K juris you're ignorant go read up on the investigation

he pretty much parrots whatever greenwald says

[JurisDictum]

K juris you're ignorant go read up on the investigation

Nope.

You give me something I need to know in a few sentences. Or I think its bullshit just like the last 2 years of bullshit they gave us.

From what I did read...there bitching about a "troll farm" ...aka twitter bots.

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/CLTysLC.jpg

[MagpieRockyl]

Sentence 1: Public indictment of 12 Russian "GRU" intelligence officers BY NAME as of last Thursday and publicly released in a press conference by Rosenstein on Friday. - https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/80-netyksho-et-al-indictment/ba0521c1eef869deecbe/optimized/full.pdf?action=click&module=Intentional&pgtype=Article

Sentence 2: "These units conducted large scale cyber operations to interfere with the U.S. 2016 presidential election"

[JurisDictum]

Sentence 1: Public indictment of 12 Russian "GRU" intelligence officers BY NAME as of last Thursday and publicly released in a press conference by Rosenstein on Friday. - https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/80-netyksho-et-al-indictment/ba0521c1eef869deecbe/optimized/full.pdf?action=click&module=Intentional&pgtype=Article

Sentence 2: "These units conducted large scale cyber operations to interfere with the U.S. 2016 presidential election"

Don't be shocked when it turns out its about twitter bots. Because I told you all that shit months ago.

[clevergirl]

It's actually weird to run into people I've known as diehard conservatives all my life and find out they've begun to really actually physically as in they chemically and adrenally hate Trump and the GoP kinda being flippantly apathetic.

I'm genuinely scared for 'Murica guyz

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/CLTysLC.jpg

funny how this whole game is a pun, literally run and attack is the whole game https://youtu.be/IJKUpHIQIGc

[MagpieRockyl]

Don't be shocked when it turns out its about twitter bots. Because I told you all that shit months ago.

It may shock you that those former 13 Russians were previously indicted in February.

It doesn't shock me that these NEW 12 Russians hacked the Democratic party, planted malware, and hacked the DNC database, probably because I read the indictment.

[clevergirl]

https://i.imgur.com/CLTysLC.jpg

Rambo's digital watch really sells the fuck out of this.

[clevergirl]

I'm going to have to back up Mueller on this one, pretty much if you ignore Fox News. It's hard to disagree that there's not a major problem and Mueller is on to some stuff.

That means, 1 news network (sorry entertainment network) pretty much plays it down as much as possible by ommition, but like everyone else, including like, lawyerfirms are like buzzing about the real world and how surreal it is.

[Mblake81]

It's actually weird to run into people I've known as diehard conservatives all my life and find out they've begun to really actually physically as in they chemically and adrenally hate Trump and the GoP kinda being flippantly apathetic.

I'm genuinely scared for 'Murica guyz

im sure

[skarlorn]

I smell REALLY good

[MagpieRockyl]

I have no doubt Russia meddled in the election.

What Mueller hasn't found yet, is collusion.

Wanting evidence doesn't mean you're being brainwashed by Fox News.

What Mueller hasn't revealed yet. I'm also waiting to hear the full story, but its confidential and GOODprosecutors don't publicize that information until hearings.

Something was up with his campaign, that's clear with the indictments, what that was will be revealed next week with the Manafort trial hopefully.

[clevergirl]

I smell REALLY good

me 2 (I smell really really good, my roomate sometimes grabs me and basically buries her face in my hair sometimes I smell so good). This is weirdly affirming and weirdly offputting at the same time. I like this person, but I'm not super horny about them, and a million other things. I also don't want to take advantage of them with my extremely awesome smell. They need independence and I don't need to become their plaything.

I admit. It's quite possible Mueller will never find any direct evidence of collusion directly between Mr Trump and any bad guy.

I'm sure there will be plenty of evidence to make everybody who says "fake news" look guilty though, between now until 2020.

We shouldn't be proud of what happened and I am really concerned about the forces at work behind Trump and why they like him sooo much and why he is like a giant stunray towards everyone.

[Wonkie]

I have no doubt Russia meddled in the election.

What Mueller hasn't found yet, is collusion.

Wanting evidence doesn't mean you're being brainwashed by Fox News.

the goalposts are now at the 30 yard line. looking forward to how far you useful idiots will take it.

[Wonkie]

i do not believe you or care

[MagpieRockyl]

I guess Mueller is just fucking with all of us for no reason then, if we're going by your logic.

that conclusion doesn't follow.

[Wonkie]

Of course you don't, you're you

i am me, that is true, you've made a good point there.

but as me, I've witnessed the progression of the investigation and at each step of the way internet memelords lie and then walk back their shittery. from fake nothingburger to trumps recent embarassment, you've been there spinning each break, each indictment, each time the case gets closer to the facts.

go to gulag plz

[Wonkie]

i am me, that is true, you've made a good point there.

but as me, I've witnessed the progression of the investigation and at each step of the way internet memelords lie and then walk back their shittery. from fake nothingburger to trumps recent embarassment, you've been there spinning each break, each indictment, each time the case gets closer to the facts.

go to gulag plz

this a very nice meltdown

[Wonkie]

Weird, it's almost like some people don't agree with you...

i know you don't agree and am heckling you for it.

sorry if that was unclear

[MagpieRockyl]

You're implying Mueller has damning evidence and yet not finishing his investigation

He's certainly has evidence against Flynn, Gates, Popadopolus, Manafort, 13 Russian 'trolls', 12 Russian intelligence officers. It's not like the investigation is a dud like Bengazi which went on for twice as long.

Just because you have evidence doesn't mean you drop everything and consider it over with.

[Wonkie]

If you shake my hand will your friends think you're a traitor?

what the hell is wrong with you?

[MagpieRockyl]

what the hell is wrong with you?

He's got a lot of red fishies

[Wonkie]

Where do I start?

I'm sure one of those makes me a Russian agent though.

in function if not in form

go to gulag you useful idiot

[MagpieRockyl]

Yeah and every single one of those have absolutely nothing to do with collusion.

You don't know that. The indictments against the Americans in the investigation have much of the document redacted. Whether or not there was Russian collusion or conspiracy involved with the Trump campaign is not public.

[Wonkie]

I'm not the one advocating for the impeachment of a sitting president without proper evidence.

You want a coup because your team lost the game.

And yet you sit on your fake moral throne. :)

Get over it. You guys lost. Please refrain from burning the house down because you're mad.

the evidence for incompetence is plainly obvious and the evidence for being a russian stooge is the press conference

go to gulag

[Wonkie]

Oh that's right, Trump shook Putin's hand, I forgot.

more than that, he kneeled before the bear(more of an otter really) and presented himself as cuck.

[Mblake81]

more than that, he kneeled before the bear(more of an otter really) and presented himself as cuck.

So much gay fetish, like movies about the country side where men go and get raped (deliverance)
https://i.imgur.com/PSz3FCr.jpg?1

[Wonkie]

Trump needs a spanking.

I'd settle for this. torn between lena dunham and caitlyn jenner tho. maybe oprah?

thread, who should spank ol trumpyboy?

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/v6uZ3gu.jpg

[Wonkie]

Anyone but Putin.

If Putin's hand touches Trump, it's instant collusion according to CNN.

is this the meme? it was about a handshake?

that's terribly dull

[MagpieRockyl]

Oh that's right, Trump shook Putin's hand, I forgot.

And completely rejected both the Congress and Intelligence communities reports that Russia attacked the democratic party. Then blamed Obama, Democrats, and the FBI for poor relationship with Russia.

We caught Russia red handed, now he's being buddy buddy so he can get a fuckin hotel in Moscow. Pathetic leader.

[Wonkie]

It's making you mad, so I keep repeating it

are you being sincere here? really dark stuff for an adult

:(

[MagpieRockyl]

Oh you mean he didn't speak kindly about the groups who made up conspiracy theories and are currently investigating him?

Woah...why doesn't he help the people who are lying about him? Why doesn't he trust the people making up lies about him?

Intelligence community and the Congress are both run by republicans.
We caught Russia red handed, and he's complacent. Weak leader.

[Wonkie]

im sure republicans hate 2 scotus picks and the tax cut

got anything else stupid to say?

[MagpieRockyl]

The establishment Republicans don't like Trump.

Maybe you'd know that if you were American.

U sure? They seem to back him up on everything so far. Except for mondays russia bullshit of course.

[Wonkie]

Well of course, those things have nothing to do with Trump.

They'll be two-faced to get those things, but beyond that, they don't support Trump.

Ask McCain, McConnell, and Ryan what they think of Trump.

They're only some of the most powerful Republicans in our government.

the president literally nominates scotus picks AND signs legislation passed by congress

you are retarded

[Wonkie]

Good job, you passed 'American Government'.

That doesn't disprove what I said.

Establishment Republicans do not support Trump. They do not like him.

I don't know how else to say it - should I type slower for you or something?

read the bold dingus

[Wonkie]

Yeah, the tax cut was Ryan's and while the President nominates a Justice, Congress gets the vote.

So none of it had to do with Trump or Trump's own personal plan.

what's his plan then? how does it differ in any meaningful way from the Republican agenda?

im excited to hear this, given you deny the Presidency has any role in the legislative or judicial process

[bloodmuffin]

2016: Mainstream Media, "12 Agencies have evidence of Russian collusion."
2017: Mainstream Media, "6 Agencies have evidence of Russian collusion."
2018: Mainstream Media, "FBI has evidence of Russian collusion."

SHOW US THE PEE PEE TAPES AMERICA!

[Swish2]

2016: Mainstream Media, "12 Agencies have evidence of Russian collusion."
2017: Mainstream Media, "6 Agencies have evidence of Russian collusion."
2018: Mainstream Media, "FBI has evidence of Russian collusion."

SHOW US THE PEE PEE TAPES AMERICA!

how about the footage from cameras facing the Pentagon on 9/11? YOU deserve the truth!

[Wonkie]

Are you serious?

Do you even know Trump and his policies?

He's a Populist. The Republican establishment are damn near Neo-liberals.

Of course they share some goals, but to the Republicans, Trump's plan is antithetical to theirs. One of the biggest criticisms of Trump was questioning whether or not he was actually a Republican/Conservative.

sounds like a real "maverick"

[maskedmelonpai]

i don't get why russia illegally interfering with US election really matter. democrats been importing and encouraging illegal interference for decades.

[Cecily]

It doesn’t matter. Chain of succession is way too many people before Mattis takes over.

[Wonkie]

If he wasn't, he wouldn't be getting so much resistance.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mccain+maverick

:rolleyes:

[Wonkie]

i get really engaged and excited when snack manufacturers change their logo

[Cecily]

Pepsi with the white label messes with my head because I feel I’ve been programmed to associate white packaging with diet food-like substances and this highly corn syruped product stands in stark contrast to these color coding rules that keep our grocery stores from total anarchy.

[Wonkie]

Da, I see US have new President

Politburo very happy new President

For Putin, is like many potato!

for American is also potato

[JurisDictum]

Da, I see US have new President

Politburo very happy new President

For Putin, is like many potato!

for American is also potato

Russia is not communist anymore

Holy shit

You fucking establishment democrats and your never ending wars.

There is zero rationale to be hostile to Putin other than he represents a big energy market that isn't bound to the petro dollar.

If Russia interfered with our election then you have to acknowledge Israel and Saudi Arabia and half dozen other countries have also been interfering with our elections for decades. Much more successfully I might add.

Everyone gives their side of the story -- aka "Propaganda"

Putin is not why Clinton lost Michigan! That was Bill's fault. She should be blaming her damn husband if she's upset.

[maskedmelonpai]

i think the real question here is, "how many retarded centrists were lured to the wrong side by russian troll interference?"

or are they sayin' that Russia liek actually hacked ballots?

[clevergirl]

I avoid soda and vending machine food and chips. If I am running low on electrolytes I try to eat celery, other veggies. Otherwise I just straight up dope my vitamins thru pill form.

Thankfully my water supply is rich in calcium and radioactive phosphates.

Trump is dumb and bad.

[clevergirl]

So Trump during his press conference said "we had worse relations right now than any time in history".

He kinda forgot about the cold war.
Berlin Air lift.
Berlin wall.
Cuban Missile Crisis.

Those times both sides were scrambling jets. The deadmans switch that almost got flipped.

And he claimed. Trump the asshole claimed to have "made it all better in one fell swoop". Whilst placing blame on US, America, the U.S. And on everyone and everything but himself. Like a child in diapers.

I have to say your kind of an ignorant dumb fuck to believe that liar and think everything is "just fine" or going to be "OK". Regardless of what your political views or party. Even a diehard totalitarian death to the universe type politic person like me, can see Trump is inneffectual and just sad. Very sad. Like a two year old who can't be potty trained, but claims to be the best potty user on the planet.

Not even an ounce of reality.

[clevergirl]

President Trump's response to Russia's multi-pronged cyber attacks, from their malware botnets to their attacks targeting the U.S. energy grid and election systems, has been near non-existent.

The United States Intelligence Agencies have confirmed that a foreign nation interfered with the 2016 American election process.[1] We know two dozen state's election systems came under attack.[2] The Intelligence Agencies heads unanimously agree that the Russians will attack the 2018 election.[3] The cyber security head of the Department of Homeland Security has stated that the Russians had successfully penetrated voter registration rolls in several states before the 2016 election.[4] President Trump's administration has retaliated to these attacks on America's institutions and infrastructure by penalizing Russians, unfortunately President Trump did not mention the sanctions nor the election meddling during his statement on the nerve agent attack in Britain.[5] President Trump has repeatedly called the Russian election interference a hoax.[6] A bipartisan Senate investigation led by Republican Senator Burr found that Putin interfered in the 2016 U.S. election to specifically help Donald Trump.[7]

President Trump's administration has done little to mitigate the threat of Russia attacking the 2018 midterm election.

U.S. officials, including former National Security Advisor General H.R. McMaster, have claimed that this administration has not done enough to dissuade Russian meddling.[8] Most recently President Trump put the brakes on new economic sanctions on Russia, a day after U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley laid out a preliminary plan to impose new sanctions. This decision by President Trump came after the Kremlin denounced the new sanctions plan as international economic raiding.[9] Furthermore, NSA Director Admiral Rodgers testified to Congress that Trump has given no order to counter Russian election meddling.[10] While former National Security Advisor General H.R. McMaster warned of Russian election meddling and publicly denounced their continued attacks, he was removed by President Trump and John Bolton took his place. National Security Advisor Bolton has been pushing to eliminate a top Cyber-Security position in the White House as he attempts to reorganize the National Security Council.[11]

Russia's multi-pronged cyber attacks:

Russian cyber interference goes far beyond hacking election systems. The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI have accused the Russian government of a multi-stage intrusion campaign targeting the U.S. energy grid. These attacks included critical infrastructure in energy, nuclear, commercial facilities, water facilities, and aviation facilities.[12] Here is the report by the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team where analytic efforts undertaken by DHS and the FBI have found a multistage intrusion campaign perpetuated by the Russian state.[13] This isn't fake news, the United States is under cyber attack from Russia.

This joint Technical Alert (TA) is the result of analytic efforts between the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). This alert provides information on Russian government actions targeting U.S. Government entities as well as organizations in the energy, nuclear, commercial facilities, water, aviation, and critical manufacturing sectors. It also contains indicators of compromise (IOCs) and technical details on the tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) used by Russian government cyber actors on compromised victim networks. DHS and FBI produced this alert to educate network defenders to enhance their ability to identify and reduce exposure to malicious activity.

DHS and FBI characterize this activity as a multi-stage intrusion campaign by Russian government cyber actors who targeted small commercial facilities’ networks where they staged malware, conducted spear phishing, and gained remote access into energy sector networks. After obtaining access, the Russian government cyber actors conducted network reconnaissance, moved laterally, and collected information pertaining to Industrial Control Systems (ICS).

Furthermore, the FBI has attempted to thwart a sophisticated malware system that is linked to Russia's military intelligence agency, the Russian malware has infected hundreds of thousands of routers.[14] The Justice Department has announced actions to disrupt the advanced botnet malware system. It is recommended to restart your router as it may be infected.[15]

1) New York Times - Trump Misleads on Russian Meddling: Why 17 Intelligence Agencies Don’t Need to Agree

2) NPR - 10 Months After Election Day, Feds Tell States More About Russian Hacking

3) Washington Post - The nation’s top spies said Russia is continuing to target the U.S. political system

4) Washington Examiner - DHS official: Russians 'successfully penetrated' voter registration rolls in several states before 2016 election

5) New York Times - White House Penalizes Russians Over Election Meddling and Cyberattacks

6) New York Times - Indictment Makes Trump’s Hoax Claim Harder to Sell

7) Bloomberg - Senate Intelligence Committee Agrees That Putin Meddled to Help Trump

8) Washington Post - America is still unprepared for a Russian attack on our elections

9) Washington Post - Trump puts the brakes on new Russian sanctions, reversing Haley’s announcement

10) New York Times - White House Has Given No Orders to Counter Russian Meddling, N.S.A. Chief Says

11) Politico - Bolton pushing to eliminate White House cyber job

12) TechCrunch - DHS and FBI detail how Russia is hacking into U.S. nuclear facilities and other critical infrastructure

13) Department of Homeland Security: United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) - Russian Government Cyber Activity Targeting Energy and Other Critical Infrastructure Sectors

14) New York Times - F.B.I.’s Urgent Request: Reboot Your Router to Stop Russia-Linked Malware

15) United States Department of Justice - Justice Department Announces Actions to Disrupt Advanced Persistent Threat 28 Botnet of Infected Routers and Network Storage Devices

I mean, all of it, all of it is just fake news right? (/emote:dean winchester voice)

[clevergirl]

Here's some gross pedotrump talking and court documents documenting his alleged grossness:

Younger than 14. She looks like she’s 11. And listen to her squeeky little kid voice. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ki9Y_GTTN_8

No healthy minded man jokes about dating young girls like that. But Trump is good old buddies with Jeffrey Epstein. They’re even in lawsuits together. https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

That lawsuit claims underaged sexual abuse during the same time that escalator video was filmed. No doubt Trump had young buns on the brain.

The wild thing about that lawsuit, is that one of the witnesses was an Epstein employee who told some horrendous stories during her deposition.

Hey. And here is convicted child rapist Epstein pleading the 5th when asked about Trump and underaged girls.

https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton

https://i.imgur.com/TnL6YuT.jpg

And the Florida DA that prosecuted Epstein after he (fucked an underaged employee at Mara Lago) gave Epstein a slap on the wrist. That Florida DA was given a cabinet position in the Trump administration.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-jeffrey-epstien-alexander-acosta-sex-abuse-case-20170321-story.html

I love the gaslighting that’s been done to the Trump supporters. They thought Hillary was running a child sex slave ring while thinking Trump was busting these sex trafficking rings and setting children free. But if they’d looked a little further, they’d see one of Trumps business partners a Russian Turk named Tevfik Arif... is an actual sex trafficker (though charges were dropped). He founded Bayrock Group. He helped build the Trump soho amongst other Trump properties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tevfik_Arif

https://i.imgur.com/Jfa2p7n.jpg

That Trump. That Grand Old Party. What a bunch of scum bags.

Oh yeah. And here’s Uncle Luke of 2 live crew noping out of a Trump party filled with underage Russian girls https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLpVhYtKPA

This "man". Is quite possibly one of the grossest people to walk this earth (sadly). He's not hitler, Putin is Hitler. Putin is OK with the extermination of undesirables. Trump just wants to be "like hitler" aka "Like Putin". He's definitely the Mango Mussolini.

Except 100x more traitorous. and 1000x more pathetic. And 1 million times more fat and stroked out on cholesterol and aluminum toxins from diet coke cans.

If you wanna get mad and stay mad, go right ahead. I'm not trying to "convert you" to liberalism or democracy. I'm calling you people fucking worms. Because that's what you are. When you support people like Trump.

[clevergirl]

BTW, Soda. It's PH is like 2.5, it's acidic enough to eat that metal right up. Ur seriously going to Alzheimer yourselves. Sorry, but not sorry if you get stuck in a Trump deathloop with this as the only point in your lives able to be lived, over and over.

[clevergirl]

https://i.imgur.com/TnL6YuT.jpg

[clevergirl]

Patiently waits out the meltdown

https://i.imgur.com/TnL6YuT.jpg

Patiently waits out the meltdown

Dood. You and me both, are here, on a Wed, Hump day in the middle of the week. And I just stomped your Mango Mussolin's face in with the truth. We are in the same time zone on this fucking epically insignificant ball of rock.

You have one life to live, and you are right here, in hell, living it with me. I'm your cellmate.

[clevergirl]

You can't possibly be remotely happy or confident if you are posting in this thread, on this forum. And arguing with wonkie, who knows way better than you.

You come here to feel better, escape reality, that's what EVERQUEST is, and pretend you're right, alright, cool, a big fish, in a little pond, and that the world isn't closing the fuck in on you. Just like everyone else. This little corner of hell is very special.

This is a metaphysical experience. And it's happening. I can't wait to see how much you don't care. For the rest of your life.

Tick TOCK.

[Topgunben]

"the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back"
-Barack Hussein Obama

Which way is it liberals? Or was it just politically expedient to ignore Russia as a major geopolitical threat?

[clevergirl]

What about Obama. Classy.

You are powerless. At the mercy of the universe.

Thoughts and prayers for you all.

Let's get Epstein a few pages back so you don't have to read that anymore shall we?

[Wonkie]

"the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back"
-Barack Hussein Obama

Which way is it liberals? Or was it just politically expedient to ignore Russia as a major geopolitical threat?

Obama is a DINO. He's no maverick, he's not a political outsider.

[clevergirl]

So this is kinda cute, the look on Trumps jealous face (he wishes he could do this at home all the time lol) as the security escorts this "The Nation" reporter out who was gonna ask about foreign nuke policy:

https://arenan.yle.fi/1-50005404

Fucking gorgeous. Let's live in the present moment aye?

What did Obama do to you as a child that has you so the fuck upset you are willing to excuse Trump and Putin? And completely surrender all your personal power.

I'm not telling you to fall on your sword or go to war. Or throw all your money away and live in poverty.

But you could start by supporting the God's honest plain truth. By having some integrity. By working towards something better than Trump and Putin.

This foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not even funny. These jokes lost their humor in today's world. It's pathetic. 2012 was the singularity of shit.

[clevergirl]

Have you ever considered that you guys have absolutely lost your goddamn minds?

Maybe it's you guys who are the problem?

Invest in some self reflection.

TBQH I spend a good deal of time questioning myself and my sanity and asking what I could do personally. I think that makes me a better person. Maybe not better than you. But it makes me a better person than the person I was.

[clevergirl]

What's really funny is whoever didn't want that dude to ask his question. A simple? Next question please would have been good, but why was there such a show? Why Mr Grabby hands in a blue jacket? lol.

That guy just wanted a CHANCE to get an answer. He wasn't gonna kill everyone in that room with a piece of paper. Wonder where it all goes?

Trump was kinda upset at Putin's nuke behavior and we have a bad track record here, going back to the 80s and more. A lot of people are questioning if we can even do anything about it.

I don't think Russia can nuke us dead without mutually assured destruction. But I wonder what this was, just a show of force to make Putin feel comfortable and legitimize him further so he didn't have to deal with 1 contentious thing? Afraid Trump would have gone off on a tangent? Why is the press, especially a pretty independent and cool and normal reporter from The Nation in such need of being reigned in and controlled in public, on a global scale?

The Nation is a really good publication. They've got some things wrong in the past, but if you really care about military matters, they are ruthlessly blunt and factual.

[clevergirl]

As far as news outlets tho, was it Axios that was founded by someone close to Alex Jones? They are suprisingly cool and normal too.

Try em out> Axios.com

Get off Fox and Kids.

[Wonkie]

Have you ever considered that you guys have absolutely lost your goddamn minds?

Maybe it's you guys who are the problem?

Invest in some self reflection.

https://i.imgur.com/WeCwLOp.jpg

[Topgunben]

What about Obama. Classy.

You are powerless. At the mercy of the universe.

Thoughts and prayers for you all.

Let's get Epstein a few pages back so you don't have to read that anymore shall we?

Does everything you write amount to senseless drivel? ;)

[Wonkie]

check out this polit burro

https://i.imgur.com/1nLDgOQ.png

[maskedmelonpai]

check out this polit burro

https://i.imgur.com/1nLDgOQ.png

woah, i just now got it even though i sawr it before reading some RNF (o^^o);


also, lol ^^

[MagpieRockyl]

check out this polit burro

https://i.imgur.com/1nLDgOQ.png

haha! It's a Giraffe

[MagpieRockyl]

Holy shit - Dino was purged from this thread

we lost 13 FUCKING PAGES

[MagpieRockyl]

MICKMORIANIS GONE TOO HELP

Who will stand up and be a russian pretending to be a conservative from middle america in their place?

[Cecily]

There goes most of the conservatives I can talk to. RIP.

[MagpieRockyl]

im still here im a neocon ask me anything

Nsync or backstreet bois