******Official politics thread ******

[mickmoranis]

I need you to build me a bridge to where this thought resides, mick. I don't understand the connection @.@

if we can presume that lower species things like plants have minds and feelings that are worth protecting the way we do human life, then perhaps it isnt as much of a stretch to blame gravety for malitiously killing all of us including those that were trying to protect and even performing acts of interplanetary gennocide....

The point I am making is, that you have to draw the line somewhere, and being able to explain yourself is where humans tend to.

ie if you can expain why we shouldnt kill you, then we'll kill you.

plants aint got a shot in this world.

[Old Prexus]

I'd like to see more political mud wrestling in the East Commonlands /ooc while i'm waiting to buy my sundry wares. I saw a poor halfling smearing lipstick all over his face while sobbing uncontrollably in the tunnel. As I watched him rock back and forth, I knew what ailed the rascal.

[AzzarTheGod]

I'd like to see more political mud wrestling in the East Commonlands /ooc while i'm waiting to buy my sundry wares. I saw a poor halfling smearing lipstick all over his face while sobbing uncontrollably in the tunnel. As I watched him rock back and forth, I knew what ailed the rascal.

hey its a blue poster from blue forums.

Everyone stop typing like a retard. Best behavior.

[bigjerry]

hey its a blue poster from blue forums.

Everyone stop typing like a retard. Best behavior.

I'm done typing like a human. if u get punctuation it comes with stupidity. get on your boy's private mailing list if u want the real n@gg@ shit.

[maskedmelon]

if we can presume that lower species things like plants have minds and feelings that are worth protecting the way we do human life, then perhaps it isnt as much of a stretch to blame gravety for malitiously killing all of us including those that were trying to protect and even performing acts of interplanetary gennocide....

The point I am making is, that you have to draw the line somewhere, and being able to explain yourself is where humans tend to.

ie if you can expain why we shouldnt kill you, then we'll kill you.

plants aint got a shot in this world.

this a really good point. i don't know why i didn't think of this to begin with. thank you mick

[Old Prexus]

if we can presume that lower species things like plants have minds and feelings that are worth protecting the way we do human life, then perhaps it isnt as much of a stretch to blame gravety for malitiously killing all of us including those that were trying to protect and even performing acts of interplanetary gennocide....

The point I am making is, that you have to draw the line somewhere, and being able to explain yourself is where humans tend to.

ie if you can expain why we shouldnt kill you, then we'll kill you.

plants aint got a shot in this world.

Your point is poorly made. I'm guessing you're oblivious to the symbiotic relationship we have with plants. In your world it's humans or plants? I'll tell you right now that I am not afraid to have sex with a plant if my current state would afford me the right. I have a fern downstairs that has been screaming my name. But I have kids back on Odus that look up to me.

[mickmoranis]

At what point in the liberal hive mind did they get brainwashed into thinking that "premtive strike in iraq" is bad but preemptive strikes that trump is hitler so we should stop him before he does whatever we can come up with in our fevered hyperactive over acting imagination, is good?

I hope they all die in a fire.

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm done typing like a human. if u get punctuation it comes with stupidity. get on your boy's private mailing list if u want the real n@gg@ shit.

yall heard the man yall wanna see some punctuation then put the dollars up. i dont see none of yall paying no money to nobody to type

paywall that ish

[mickmoranis]

Your point is poorly made. I'm guessing you're oblivious to the symbiotic relationship we have with plants. In your world it's humans or plants? I'll tell you right now that I am not afraid to have sex with a plant if my current state would afford me the right. I have a fern downstairs that has been screaming my name. But I have kids back on Odus that look up to me.

my point isnt a point, it's reality look around you. What planet do you think you live in?

I am by no means saying we dont have a symbiotic relationship with plants, but I am saying there is a difference in killing a plant and a 3 year old.

[Old Prexus]

hey its a blue poster from blue forums.

Everyone stop typing like a retard. Best behavior.

That's right, i'll kindly dip out though. Back to your writhing in sulfurous slime.

[Old Prexus]

my point isnt a point, it's reality look around you. What planet do you think you live in?

I am by no means saying we dont have a symbiotic relationship with plants, but I am saying there is a difference in killing a plant and a 3 year old.

Gotcha, I see. I was basing most of that off of your "plants aint got a shot in this world" statement.

[bigjerry]

That's right, i'll kindly dip out though. Back to your writhing in sulfurous slime.

ayo this n@gg@ gay lol

[Baler]

You know what would be funny?
Is if god made time travel actually take time off the travelers life time.
20 years old? want to travel 80 years? you're now 100 years old.

[Old Prexus]

ayo this n@gg@ gay lol

When you two backwards cavemen are done co signing on eachothers posts, make sure you get one out back to back while holding eachothers free hand.

[bigjerry]

When you two backwards cavemen are done co signing on eachothers posts, make sure you get one out back to back while holding eachothers free hand.

call him gay he reveals his homophobia

i was being ironic. you, sir, are a legit bigot.

game set match

[Baler]

You, sir, are a legit bigot.


Go fuck yourself big J,. No one here is a bigot,. if you're still using this term you're not open yourself,


:mad::mad::mad:

[bigjerry]

Go fuck yourself big J,. No one here is a bigot,. if you're still using this term you're not open yourself,


:mad::mad::mad:

if u think expressing your love thru mutual masturbation is distasteful because gay, your a legit bigot. sorry dude

[Baler]

I'm disputing the term bigot,. not you jerking your wang or twat.
>_>

[mickmoranis]

one thing I can say is, thanks to all my liberal friends tears I have now partaken in about a 1000000% increase in the number of Milo arguments I have read/watched/listened to

so good job liberals!

[JurisDictum]

one thing I can say is, thanks to all my liberal friends tears I have now partaken in about a 1000000% increase in the number of Milo arguments I have read/watched/listened to

so good job liberals!

Welp, maybe if you start sucking dicks and dressing like Brüno -- people will start throwing money at you too.

Republicans are also looking for:

Asians that agree they are bad drivers and the Japs had internment coming (preferably Chinese or Korean, but they will consider Filipinos...I mean Japanese would be best -- but that's like a fucking unicorn).

Latinos that think Spanish should be banned and Trump's border wall is a good idea.

and Transgenders that agree their mentally ill about their identity and its the Liberals fault (real money here).

Of course there is always need for blacks that agree that their culture is the source of their problems. But there has been a big uptick of these guys lately. There may be more opportunities for black women who agree that loud and obnoxious welfare queens have ruined their culture by being too matriarchal.

In other news, Milo was dis-invited from CPAC...apparently they had enough problems with their icons molesting boys without this too. I mean it was funny when Milo was bullying Transgender students but not as much when he joked about fucking young boys.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Welp, maybe if you start sucking dicks and dressing like Brüno -- people will start throwing money at you too.

Republicans are also looking for:

Asians that agree they are bad drivers and the Japs had internment coming (preferably Chinese or Korean, but they will consider Filipinos...I mean Japanese would be best -- but that's like a fucking unicorn).

Latinos that think Spanish should be banned and Trump's border wall is a good idea.

and Transgenders that agree their mentally ill about their identity and its the Liberals fault (real money here).

Of course there is always need for blacks that agree that their culture is the source of their problems. But there has been a big uptick of these guys lately. There may be more opportunities for black women who agree that loud and obnoxious welfare queens have ruined their culture by being too matriarchal.

In other news, Milo was dis-invited from CPAC...apparently they had enough problems with their icons molesting boys without this too. I mean it was funny when Milo was bullying Transgender students but not as much when he joked about fucking young boys.

Milo sounding Muslim as fuck

[Xaanka]

i like how he casually slips in that black people aren't responsible for their own problems like white guilt shit is commonly accepted

[JurisDictum]

i like how he casually slips in that black people aren't responsible for their own problems like white guilt shit is commonly accepted

Everyone is held responsible for their own problems all day long. But when it comes time to discuss on a macro scale why blacks are doing worse -- its pretty stupid to ignore the history of oppression. After hundreds of years of slavery, you can't expect blacks to "catch up" on a macro scale within 50 years.

People that are white trash often have a white trash culture...that doesn't mean its the end all be all explanation for why they are where they are and how they can get out of it.

Conservatives in America are very committed to think on an individual scale. They point to specific black criminals and point out that racism doesn't fully explain their behavior. They have trouble acknowledging that the environment around groups makes such individuals more likely to occur within that group.

What I'm saying is you guys put the cart before the horse when you argue the culture causes the gap between black and white performance. The culture sprouted up because of the gap.

[Nibblewitz]

Conservatives thinking bigly on single-payer, universal medicare.

[mickmoranis]

Off duty cop discharges weapon while trying to... teach a lesson to?.. a 13 year old. (http://ktla.com/2017/02/22/cellphone-video-shows-anaheim-struggle-between-13-year-old-boy-and-off-duty-lapd-officer-who-fired-weapon/)

Dont think the officer is at fault here?

Do think an officer should feel less threatened by 13 year olds?

Dont think parents today raise their children to be responsible enough 13 year olds to not be treated like this?

Do think police should be trained to handle this situation differently?

[Pokesan]

Is Luddism the answer to smart phone degeneracy?

*names every state capitol*

[mickmoranis]

"Here's why it [the media] is going to get worse. Because he[Trump] is going to continue to press his agenda and as economic conditions get better, as more jobs get better, they're going to continue to fight[the media]. if you think they [the media] are going to give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken. Every day it is going to be a fight." (https://youtu.be/XLl9k18G0gE)

"globalists"

"new world order"

"hold us accountable. Hold us accountable on what we promised. Hold us accountable for delivering what we promised!"

I mean come on, this guy is amazing.

#Bannon2024

[AzzarTheGod]

Off duty cop discharges weapon while trying to... teach a lesson to?.. a 13 year old. (http://ktla.com/2017/02/22/cellphone-video-shows-anaheim-struggle-between-13-year-old-boy-and-off-duty-lapd-officer-who-fired-weapon/)

Dont think the officer is at fault here?

Do think an officer should feel less threatened by 13 year olds?

Dont think parents today raise their children to be responsible enough 13 year olds to not be treated like this?

Do think police should be trained to handle this situation differently?

Yo I need a link to the video. Youtube tore that one down for Community Violations ala Facebook.

Please help me out. I dont even know what search criteria I would use to search another one on youtube.

[JurisDictum]

I don't think Trump is likely to do that kind of radical change it would take to really help working people at this point. If you look at how countries like Germany and Sweden have managed to hang on to manufacturing jobs -- it involves nationalized unions, the government, and big corporations all getting together and basically planing to make the company globally competitive.

Firms in America don't want to front all the training costs it takes to train skilled employees. Because of our dated classical liberal ideology, the government isn't helping these companies pay for their workers pensions, healthcare, or child care. This is why all the good jobs are disappearing.

Trump will probably just continue to do a few token efforts to get the old unionized white working class of the rust belt to vote for him one more time. That is -- if he doesn't get impeached. I'm not one of those hysterical liberals that think Trump is American Hitler. But the truth is, there's probably some law he has already broken that the senate can use to get rid of him (and thus get Pence) at will.

[mickmoranis]

Yo I need a link to the video. Youtube tore that one down for Community Violations ala Facebook.

Please help me out. I dont even know what search criteria I would use to search another one on youtube.

https://youtu.be/NRwgr3EFlWo

[mickmoranis]

I don't think Trump is likely to do that kind of radical change it would take to really help working people at this point.

well, considering hes delivering on all his promises so far and bannon is promising a beginning of a new nationalist country, id say trump is likely radical enough to make the necessary changes.

The left can argue for globalism all it wants but if the nation is strict about nationalism, which this administration and its followers are, it could very well have a profoundly positive effect on our economy and the working person.

[AzzarTheGod]

https://youtu.be/NRwgr3EFlWo

Violating the constitutional rights of a minor is a federal offense.

The FBI should draw up an indictment I'd think based on the video evidence. You can't illegally detain or arrest, or touch a minor without just cause.

It carries a 10 year maximum sentence. Grabbing his shirt is depraving the constitutional rights of a minor. This guy is looking at serious charges if the FBI field office investigates.

He is also battering a minor and abusing children. He has a slew of charges. I know the DA won't press, but a US attorney should.

[mickmoranis]

It happened in so cal in a perfectly upper middle class county. Im sure they are going to feel the full force of the law.

Altho all the stupid liberal middle class idiots took to the streets over it last night and 24 people got arrested.

one even spraypaintd the nieghbors garage door becuse he was too stupid to know it was the neighbors house he was vandalazing not the cops.

the cops house was also vandalized and the mob even attempted to break in lol

the pink hats may have fucked up any chance they had at justice with this little clown show.

[AzzarTheGod]

It happened in so cal in a perfectly upper middle class county. Im sure they are going to feel the full force of the law.

Altho all the stupid liberal middle class idiots took to the streets over it last night and 24 people got arrested.

one even spraypaintd the nieghbors garage door becuse he was too stupid to know it was the neighbors house he was vandalazing not the cops.

the cops house was also vandalized and the mob even attempted to break in lol

the pink hats may have fucked up any chance they had at justice with this little clown show.

Yeah I hear you I don't advocate violence, but I hope his tires are slashed up on a weekly basis.

He is a typical shitbag you can just tell hes not a good cop. This is one of the bad seeds.

The protest is warranted, you dont abuse kids. find some other people to abuse. hopefully they took some windows out, inconvenience the shitter. I heard the DA isn't looking into charges so its up to the feds.

[mickmoranis]

Yeah I hear you I don't advocate violence, but I hope his tires are slashed up on a weekly basis.

He is a typical shitbag you can just tell hes not a good cop. This is one of the bad seeds.

The protest is warranted, you dont abuse kids. find some other people to abuse. hopefully they took some windows out, inconvenience the shitter. I heard the DA isn't looking into charges so its up to the feds.

There is a very clear problem but because of liberal outrage the wrong officers are held acoutable for the wrong things.

Take this officer who was doing an exceptional job at community outreach, known by most kids int he neighborhood, fired, for "challenging a teen to a fight" aka, being the parental figure the left wants the police to be in the first fucking place. (http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/standing-with-officer-james-sanders/14742)

Sad really. Its really sad. Liberals. They mean well they just dont realize the guy protesting next to them, isnt a standing member of the community, its just some homeless dude who was happy someone has joined him on the side walk, yelling at the sky.

[chadtwoke]

Yeah I hear you I don't advocate violence, but I hope his tires are slashed up on a weekly basis.

He is a typical shitbag you can just tell hes not a good cop. This is one of the bad seeds.

The protest is warranted, you dont abuse kids. find some other people to abuse. hopefully they took some windows out, inconvenience the shitter. I heard the DA isn't looking into charges so its up to the feds.

The fuck are you talking about? They weren't kids, they were like 13+. Most of them were the same size he was. Obviously they had no respect, cause they're just walking through peoples property. This is not some first incident. Then, he only pulls his gun after being given a Bill Goldberg spear from one of them. At that point another one jumps over the hedge appearing hostile. This guy may have accidentally discharged his weapon from the way it seems in the video, but he had every right to pull his weapon. No "kids" were abused.

[Lune]

The fuck are you talking about? They weren't kids, they were like 13+. Most of them were the same size he was. Obviously they had no respect, cause they're just walking through peoples property. This is not some first incident. Then, he only pulls his gun after being given a Bill Goldberg spear from one of them. At that point another one jumps over the hedge appearing hostile. This guy may have accidentally discharged his weapon from the way it seems in the video, but he had every right to pull his weapon. No "kids" were abused.

Did we watch the same video? The cop handled himself like a complete ape moron. There are many right ways to handle that kind of situation and dragging a 13 year old kid across several properties onto your own, before pulling a gun and FIRING IT, is not one of them.

I always side with cops on these things because the "victim" was usually acting like a thug or resisting arrest in some way, but this one is indefensible. I don't care if the kid was habitually trespassing on his property or being a cunt, you aren't allowed to take the law into your own hands like that.

Hope this ends his career.

[mickmoranis]

NEWS FLASH

every liberal in the country felt a disturbance in the the force today when the trump administration said it would crack down on weed.

but their president who campaigned with fucking photos of him smoking weed did NOTHING ABOUT WEED EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE NUMBER ONE CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST YOUNG BLACK MEN

so democrats dont care about young black men OR weed

so quit your fucking crying

[Pokesan]

bernie lost

bern the world

bern it all

[mickmoranis]

The fuck are you talking about? They weren't kids, they were like 13+. Most of them were the same size he was. Obviously they had no respect, cause they're just walking through peoples property. This is not some first incident. Then, he only pulls his gun after being given a Bill Goldberg spear from one of them. At that point another one jumps over the hedge appearing hostile. This guy may have accidentally discharged his weapon from the way it seems in the video, but he had every right to pull his weapon. No "kids" were abused.

why do people try to analyze videos people in court determine the outcome over like this?

In general im asking everyone, what type of autism causes someone to do this?

[mickmoranis]

bernie lost

bern the world

bern it all

you see what you dont understand is that, bernie bros had little to no hope by the time 2016 drew near.

It was bernie that was more like a hail marry for this god forsaken country, a holy shit, maybe this will fix it, last minuet of the game kiss your ass goodbye strat.

it failed.

it failed becuse democrats

democrats will pay

trump will pay me, cus Im white and make money so, ill be fine

fuck the world

not burn it

ill be fine

but fuck the world.

[mickmoranis]

I wish there was a good states rights platform I could get behind... but an actual states rights platform from the GOP is as much of a pipe dream as a democratic socialist platform is on the left.

I bet in 100 years ppl in america are still fighting over roevwade

[JurisDictum]

Lets pretend Trump actually is:

A) able to accomplish big economic change

and

B) wants to help working people and not just people like him

Trump is basically advocated an Import substitution industrialization (ISI) model. This worked in Latin America for getting workers wages up and developing a middle class. They closed the borders and pursued policies our government propaganda told us were "communist" or "socialist." Basically they made people buy from their own country and not import cheap goods from abroad. This was combined with some policies like universal healthcare and education for example.

But then, it became impossible to get the kind of investment it needed to develop into an advanced industrial economy. They couldn't make computers and cars without American money and information. It had to open up for investment -- which basically was a disaster for all these new middle class people. Institutions like the IMF and WTO insisted they destroy all their protectionist and social welfare policies before they would deliver on the investment money they needed. However, middle class people don't accept losing their living standard lying down...they riot and create civil unrest.

long story short it didn't work out all that well for them (mass poverty, currency collapse, and inequality etc). Compared to the Asian economies that used the kind of system Continental and Northern Europe does (using the government to coordinate for a global economy) , it was a disaster.

I guess the big question I have is, will this kind of system that was a such a disaster in places like Brazil work a lot better in the United States? We are in a very different situation after all.

I honestly hope Trump does help out our country. I'm just not so sure he wants to or can.

Edit: even if ISI would help people in the long run... it seems like it would cause all kinds of havoc in the short term at very least. Our economy has grown dependent on all kinds of imports that would suddenly dry up. Trade wars are generally thought of as something very negative for a country to deal with. I guess the question is: does that matter for people that need good jobs and don't have them? Most of our sectors in America basically aren't delivering on jobs, so even if the elite suffer -- it isn't a given that the poor or middle class that don't relay on investment income would.

[AzzarTheGod]

The fuck are you talking about? They weren't kids, they were like 13+. Most of them were the same size he was. Obviously they had no respect, cause they're just walking through peoples property. This is not some first incident. Then, he only pulls his gun after being given a Bill Goldberg spear from one of them. At that point another one jumps over the hedge appearing hostile. This guy may have accidentally discharged his weapon from the way it seems in the video, but he had every right to pull his weapon. No "kids" were abused.

chadt unwoke

[AzzarTheGod]

Did we watch the same video? The cop handled himself like a complete ape moron. There are many right ways to handle that kind of situation and dragging a 13 year old kid across several properties onto your own, before pulling a gun and FIRING IT, is not one of them.

I always side with cops on these things because the "victim" was usually acting like a thug or resisting arrest in some way, but this one is indefensible. I don't care if the kid was habitually trespassing on his property or being a cunt, you aren't allowed to take the law into your own hands like that.

Hope this ends his career.


Also you don't drag him around, kidnap and transport him, you either put him in custody or you don't. Arrest, or you don't. He was in the process of unlawful detention of a minor which is a civil rights violation.

He abused his clothing and person, attempted nut strikes and generally roughing him up without making a citizens arrest. Why? We don't know. Is it because he knows he was breaking the law and didn't have enough to make a citizens arrest?

Probably.

[mickmoranis]

Liberals upset CNN is banned form white house press breifings but not upset that this magazine isnt represented.

http://i.imgur.com/BI46ZEH.png

Some news outlets just arent good enough to be invited to the party, thats the way its always been... so quit your fucking crying.

[AzzarTheGod]

CNN has made personal attacks on Trump with overtones of hatred.

Fox never made personal attacks on 0bama's character. 0bama also took Fox to war during his presidency for criticizing him.

Whats the double standard? Revoke CNN's press passes and be done with it. It should have been done after the first fuckup when that guy kept interrupting Trump and shouting at him.

Jake Tapper told the president of the US to "Grow up". Thats grounds to remove CNN's press pass.

[mickmoranis]

Its pretty clear from where anyone stands (besides directly under the CNN umbrella) that CNN is atempting to take down the president, not inform people. So it doesnt bother me that they and the other news oulets with clear and present agendas against the success of the president shouldnt be allowed in the press room.

It's pretty stupid to try to spin it as anti free speech or something.

We dont invite abortion protesters into white house press briefings... CNN 'journalists' are basically glorified protesters.

[Pokesan]

Liberals upset CNN is banned form white house press breifings but not upset that this magazine isnt represented.

http://i.imgur.com/BI46ZEH.png

Some news outlets just arent good enough to be invited to the party, thats the way its always been... so quit your fucking crying.

the dog equivalent of a cuck

cuckdog

[mickmoranis]

I cant wait for like 3 to 4 years from now when national level news oulets are named things like, "cucknation"

I only get my news from, cucknation.

I am excited for this cycle of our evolution.

[AzzarTheGod]

Its pretty clear from where anyone stands (besides directly under the CNN umbrella) that CNN is atempting to take down the president, not inform people. So it doesnt bother me that they and the other news oulets with clear and present agendas against the success of the president shouldnt be allowed in the press room.

It's pretty stupid to try to spin it as anti free speech or something.

We dont invite abortion protesters into white house press briefings... CNN 'journalists' are basically glorified protesters.

Right. There is no journalism there.

Its protestors throwing a fit. I hope their channel burns like the New York Times subscriptions count.

CNN is averaging 200k and less views, Fox does 8 million average nightly to 25 million primetime. CNN struggles to break 700-800k even once a year.

[mickmoranis]

The best thing about this is CNN would be so proud of Obama and would write 100 different puff pieces on him if he would have banned FOX news and libtards would have ate it up.

We've created a war in politics and the fucking prancing around MDA loving bard & druid guild are not going to beat the high end raiding guild that is the GOP

[mickmoranis]

I gotta say its pretty funny to see even pwdiepie rubbing his dick all over the face of the media. (https://youtu.be/sTCDfE_sKnM)

[Baler]

I gotta say its pretty funny to see even pwdiepie rubbing his dick all over the face of the media. (https://youtu.be/sTCDfE_sKnM)

I thought it was funny how

fake news
attacked pewds (whom I don't care for) just as much as

fake news
attacks trump.

coincidence? Anything that fake news companies/organizations,. just to name a couple.. cnn and new york times.. Don't like they'll politically challenge them.

[Pokesan]

the youtube man deserves as much respect as president trump imo

[Baler]

the youtube man deserves as much respect as president trump imo

pokesan for #1 p99 troll

[Old Prexus]

Kinda weird how Trump will only drink pig's milk. Real odd

[AzzarTheGod]

this old prexus guy is an interesting character. hes got potential in off-topic.

[maskedmelon]

yeah he pretty funny. he made some silly pctures before too in one of those RP thread things.

[Baler]

only drink pig's milk. Real odd

The biggest mind fuck that came to me lately is that we drink another species milk,. cow milk. Does drinking another species milk influence our future DNA or even our current brain chemistry,..?

Not to mention how chemicals are passed through the milk. So we're drinking this other species milk that is laced with chemicals...

mind = fucked

[mickmoranis]

The biggest mind fuck that came to me lately is that we drink another species milk,. cow milk. Does drinking another species milk influence our future DNA or even our current brain chemistry,..?

Not to mention how chemicals are passed through the milk. So we're drinking this other species milk that is laced with chemicals...

mind = fucked

milk is like a fertilizer for genetics, itd be like taking the fertilizer designed to make you grow a tail and utters and giving it to a small child.

[Old Prexus]

The biggest mind fuck that came to me lately is that we drink another species milk,. cow milk. Does drinking another species milk influence our future DNA or even our current brain chemistry,..?

Not to mention how chemicals are passed through the milk. So we're drinking this other species milk that is laced with chemicals...

mind = fucked

My mana bar is as full and virile as ever thanks to the nectar of the sweet gentle pig, as it has kept my mind impervious to any genetic rascalry. It's not too late Baler, to do the noble thing here and get yer oink on with me.

[Daywolf]

pǝʞɔnɟ = puᴉɯ

˙˙˙slɐɔᴉɯǝɥɔ ɥʇᴉʍ pǝɔɐl sᴉ ʇɐɥʇ ʞlᴉɯ sǝᴉɔǝds ɹǝɥʇo sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉʞuᴉɹp ǝɹ,ǝʍ oS ˙ʞlᴉɯ ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ pǝssɐd ǝɹɐ slɐɔᴉɯǝɥɔ ʍoɥ uoᴉʇuǝɯ oʇ ʇoN

¿˙˙'ʎɹʇsᴉɯǝɥɔ uᴉɐɹq ʇuǝɹɹnɔ ɹno uǝʌǝ ɹo ∀Np ǝɹnʇnɟ ɹno ǝɔuǝnlɟuᴉ ʞlᴉɯ sǝᴉɔǝds ɹǝɥʇouɐ ƃuᴉʞuᴉɹp sǝop ˙ʞlᴉɯ ʍoɔ ˙'ʞlᴉɯ sǝᴉɔǝds ɹǝɥʇouɐ ʞuᴉɹp ǝʍ ʇɐɥʇ sᴉ ʎlǝʇɐl ǝɯ oʇ ǝɯɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ ʞɔnɟ puᴉɯ ʇsǝƃƃᴉq ǝɥ┴
MMMMMMmmmmm! A tAll glass of bovine estrogen over your genetically modified kids breakfast cereal. What could go wrong?!?

http://i.imgur.com/9CAAqFz.jpg

[Baler]

Not to mention the rodent droppings and insect parts in that breakfast cereal.

All a part of this complete breakfast! (https://youtu.be/_7-VweUqO2A?t=3s)

[B4EQWASCOOL]

The biggest mind fuck that came to me lately is that we drink another species milk,. cow milk. Does drinking another species milk influence our future DNA or even our current brain chemistry,..?

Not to mention how chemicals are passed through the milk. So we're drinking this other species milk that is laced with chemicals...

mind = fucked

If the milk itself isn't a chemical, then what is it?

mind = fucked?

I don't drink cow milk.

[maskedmelon]

If the milk itself isn't a chemical, then what is it?

mind = fucked?

I don't drink cow milk.

it obvious this is just rooted in your hate for mammaries.

[Daywolf]

Not to mention the rodent droppings and insect parts in that breakfast cereal.

All a part of this complete breakfast! (https://youtu.be/_7-VweUqO2A?t=3s)

Well this is what goes on in peoples brains when they pour those chemicals over GMO's and stuff it into their faces:

(img by me) Yes they should be much afraid...

[Nibblewitz]

I guess we should work towards an all-human diet.

[Ahldagor]

I guess we should work towards an all-human diet.

Heston embodied everything wrong with the world.

[maskedmelon]

Well this is what goes on in peoples brains when they pour those chemicals over GMO's and stuff it into their faces:

(img by me) Yes they should be much afraid...

I like he picture ^^ also good to see wolfs back ^^

[Daywolf]

I like he picture ^^ also good to see wolfs back ^^
hah thx, it's a "Xenomorph" fractal. I made it in jwildfire and did post-processing in PD Howler. Imagine one of those things growing in you feeding off of genetically modified food and tainted milk lol of course all sanctioned by world govts to make us easy to control :D

Back? er more like drive-by-posting. Maybe if they permaban Comrade Mao like they should have done last time (let alone report it to the fbi) when he posted that certain image here. My activity dropped off here when that thing surfaced from the sewers again. Banned again now, but for how long? :mad:


btw, as for milk, for you milk drinkers, I recommend a local private dairy or small store supplied by one. Or a substitute milk-like product. All supermarket milk is really-really bad for you. I stopped drinking supermarket milk over 20yrs ago, and it's only gotten worse since then.

[maskedmelon]

hah thx, it's a "Xenomorph" fractal. I made it in jwildfire and did post-processing in PD Howler. Imagine one of those things growing in you feeding off of genetically modified food and tainted milk lol of course all sanctioned by world govts to make us easy to control :D

Back? er more like drive-by-posting. Maybe if they permaban Comrade Mao like they should have done last time (let alone report it to the fbi) when he posted that certain image here. My activity dropped off here when that thing surfaced from the sewers again. Banned again now, but for how long? :mad:


btw, as for milk, for you milk drinkers, I recommend a local private dairy or small store supplied by one. Or a substitute milk-like product. All supermarket milk is really-really bad for you. I stopped drinking supermarket milk over 20yrs ago, and it's only gotten worse since then.

it put a lot of things in perspective of that is what is growing inside me. I think it pretty though ^^ nice work ^^b

Also, I don't have any dairy anymore. well, I still eat some cheese, but that mostly it. I don't feel well when I have dairy. I do soy and rice and almond and hazelnut milk alternatives and they all work pretty well. Soy is my favorite, but I know it supposed to be bad too. And careful with the others because I don't want to develop a stupid nut allergy or something >.>

[Daywolf]

it put a lot of things in perspective of that is what is growing inside me. I think it pretty though ^^ nice work ^^b

Also, I don't have any dairy anymore. well, I still eat some cheese, but that mostly it. I don't feel well when I have dairy. I do soy and rice and almond and hazelnut milk alternatives and they all work pretty well. Soy is my favorite, but I know it supposed to be bad too. And careful with the others because I don't want to develop a stupid nut allergy or something >.>
Yeah, I usually go with the nut stuff, like almond milk usually https://wellnessmama.com/366/organic-almond-milk-recipe/

Also it's good for the heart:
:D look close at the center..

[Ahldagor]

What's your average rendering time for the pics Daywolf?

Humans, the only creature that drinks another creature's baby food after being weened off of it's own.

[Daywolf]

What's your average rendering time for the pics Daywolf?

Humans, the only creature that drinks another creature's baby food after being weened off of it's own.
The 2 I posted, being 1280x720 roughly 5 minutes on a 5yo intel laptop. But it varies depending on complexity of the render, slower on 3d mesh renders which jwildfire does as well. Those are actually just 2.5d above. It's not as fast as say rendering in Blender 3d, but it does the job. It only becomes a problem if you output a video file of course, with 1000's of renders. But it still renders well, compared to others I've used such as electric sheep and apophysis. Well on certain features compared to apophysis anyway, being by the same developers.

But render shmender, the fractal flame editor is he best I've come across since the early days of electric sheep, which that being still very limited on resolution today, but nice results especially into animation. This you can set mostly whatever you want on resolution. The editor is done real well though, and for a cross-platform java app. Lots of editing tools and on the fly plugin editing. Thumbnail rendering is fast though, which makes the Mutagen tool easy to fly though if mutating, and likely will be.

[Pokesan]

bump for a VERY presidential twitter meltdown

https://twitter.com/zachgeis/status/837995769219133440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Lune]

I think what Donald Trump said during the election still stands:

"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any (supporters)".

There's really nothing this guy can say or do that would shake the support of his base. Most of them admire Putin anyway and probably wouldn't give a shit if Russia did help Trump win the election.

Favorable view of Putin among Republicans up to 37% (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/gop-russia-putin-support-232714)

[Patriam1066]

I think what Donald Trump said during the election still stands:

"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any (supporters)".

There's really nothing this guy can say or do that would shake the support of his base. Most of them admire Putin anyway and probably wouldn't give a shit if Russia did help Trump win the election.

Favorable view of Putin among Republicans up to 37% (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/gop-russia-putin-support-232714)

Get over it dude

Hillary was just an all time bad candidate and you know it. You know Biden doesn't lose Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. Bill Clinton wouldn't have either

[Jarnauga]

Get over it dude

Hillary was just an all time bad candidate and you know it. You know Biden doesn't lose Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. Bill Clinton wouldn't have either

https://i.imgur.com/dvi2LrE.jpg

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/dvi2LrE.jpg

Yawn

Yeah dude I voted against the last 8 years and against Hillary. Was that a secret? You gonna be voting for Macron or against Le Pen? Be honest frenchie

[Lune]

Yawn

Yeah dude I voted against the last 8 years and against Hillary. Was that a secret? You gonna be voting for Macron or against Le Pen? Be honest frenchie

You don't see the problem with that? People voted against the last 8 years of Bush, then the last 8 years of Obama, and all that happens is a tag-team gangbang. Maybe, just maybe, that's an ill-informed rationale for voting. Should be weighing the candidates on their relative merits. I'd have taken another 4-8 years of Obama over what we ended up with any day. Obviously we're not going to agree on that point and I think we both know why. Oh well, enjoy drinking your toxic fucked-up frackwater and breathing radioactive mercury-laden coal dust.

Environment was issue #1 for me and there's no defending Trump or the GOP on that one.

[Nilstoniakrath]

I think what Donald Trump said during the election still stands:

"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any (supporters)".

There's really nothing this guy can say or do that would shake the support of his base. Most of them admire Putin anyway and probably wouldn't give a shit if Russia did help Trump win the election.

Favorable view of Putin among Republicans up to 37% (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/gop-russia-putin-support-232714)

The MSM lies cheats and steals every day to push the liberal narrative 24 7, and I am supposed to care about Russia releasing emails that should have been public anyways? Not

[Patriam1066]

You don't see the problem with that? People voted against the last 8 years of Bush, then the last 8 years of Obama, and all that happens is a tag-team gangbang. Maybe, just maybe, that's an ill-informed rationale for voting. Should be weighing the candidates on their relative merits. I'd have taken another 4-8 years of Obama over what we ended up with any day. Obviously we're not going to agree on that point and I think we both know why. Oh well, enjoy drinking your toxic fucked-up frackwater and breathing radioactive mercury-laden coal dust.

Environment was issue #1 for me and there's no defending Trump or the GOP on that one.

I voted for Kasich in the primary. Obviously the country disagreed with me

I could've not voted. In Texas, it didn't matter. My #1 issue is the professor who was sent to the ER by liberal protestors. Your condescension and hatred of people who disagree with you reminds me of being a Baha'i growing up in Iran. I'm terrified of liberals. You're hiveminded dummies who are already becoming violent based on politics. I care about the environment as well but the "white privilege" this and "everyone who disagrees with me is a racist" mentality is more important IMO. All the things that made America better than Iran are fading away due to the current left of center political climate. I get hating candidates, but y'all hate everyone who votes for them. My wife and family voted Hillary. Oddly enough, my father voted for trump. Anyway, I don't believe you could get along with a republican. I don't believe 95% of democrats could. Simply put, you guys strike me as fascists in the style of Iranian islamists and until y'all stop protesting, demonizing, and violently assaulting those who disagree with you I'm pretty much done with the democrats. Y'all need Bill Clinton back badly

[Pokesan]

yawn

tired meme about democrats being the real fascists

head back to r/the_donald to reload, patriot!

[Pokesan]

glass it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJeugIJFXas)

[JurisDictum]

I voted for Kasich in the primary. Obviously the country disagreed with me

I could've not voted. In Texas, it didn't matter. My #1 issue is the professor who was sent to the ER by liberal protestors. Your condescension and hatred of people who disagree with you reminds me of being a Baha'i growing up in Iran. I'm terrified of liberals. You're hiveminded dummies who are already becoming violent based on politics. I care about the environment as well but the "white privilege" this and "everyone who disagrees with me is a racist" mentality is more important IMO. All the things that made America better than Iran are fading away due to the current left of center political climate. I get hating candidates, but y'all hate everyone who votes for them. My wife and family voted Hillary. Oddly enough, my father voted for trump. Anyway, I don't believe you could get along with a republican. I don't believe 95% of democrats could. Simply put, you guys strike me as fascists in the style of Iranian islamists and until y'all stop protesting, demonizing, and violently assaulting those who disagree with you I'm pretty much done with the democrats. Y'all need Bill Clinton back badly

Most Democrats wanted Bernie Sanders -- not more neoliberal identity politics. You see, there is this organization called the DNC (the elite that keeps the left under control and the plebs in their place) that rigged the election for Hillary. Not only the behind the scenes shenanigans -- but right out in the open with their bullshit "super delegate" and "delegate" system that subverts what most Democrats wanted.

The last thing we need is another Bill Clinton. The Clintons are more or less - libertarians masquerading as progressives. If you think that all society needs is a few more black and women CEOs -- then you agree with the Clintons.

Also,

You need to stop taking the most extreme nutballs you can find that identify as Democrat, and then painting the millions of people that vote that way as an exact carbon copy of them.

[Lune]

I voted for Kasich in the primary. Obviously the country disagreed with me

I could've not voted. In Texas, it didn't matter. My #1 issue is the professor who was sent to the ER by liberal protestors. Your condescension and hatred of people who disagree with you reminds me of being a Baha'i growing up in Iran. I'm terrified of liberals. You're hiveminded dummies who are already becoming violent based on politics. I care about the environment as well but the "white privilege" this and "everyone who disagrees with me is a racist" mentality is more important IMO. All the things that made America better than Iran are fading away due to the current left of center political climate. I get hating candidates, but y'all hate everyone who votes for them. My wife and family voted Hillary. Oddly enough, my father voted for trump. Anyway, I don't believe you could get along with a republican. I don't believe 95% of democrats could. Simply put, you guys strike me as fascists in the style of Iranian islamists and until y'all stop protesting, demonizing, and violently assaulting those who disagree with you I'm pretty much done with the democrats. Y'all need Bill Clinton back badly

Most Republicans have jobs, houses, and families, or live in rural areas where it's difficult to rabble rouse. What are you going to burn down a McDonalds - your town's only fine dining establishment? I don't think I need to explain to you why violence and rowdy protests would be more of a problem with liberals who tend to be younger and more urban. But that's identity politics and it's dumb. I don't identify with them any more than you identify with Alex Jones. And compartmentalization is a problem for both sides of the political spectrum.

You're seeing a partisan judgment where there isn't one. Hate? Nah. It's really as simple as this: I believe all people have the government they deserve. And I have outright contempt for the people who made this government possible, and that applies equally to Trump's base as it does to the liberal elements who stole the primary from Bernie (Mainly lower-income urban and southern Democrats along with political and social elites). GOP apologists like to explain Trump as an act of desperation-- disillusioned blue collar workers from economically devastated communities looking for an outsider to save them from a political system that left them to die. No, the election was actually decided by middle class white women in Pennsylvania and Michigan who defied all expectations and went Trump for reasons I can't comprehend.

And I get along with Republicans just fine. Real life is a lot different than elfsim forums, most of my family is Republican (but not Trump supporters), and as I've made abundantly clear, I only really align liberal on economic issues and social ethics/morals (environment, civic duty, metaethics). Not the multicultural globalists and perpetual outrage machine.

There's also definitely a racism problem in Trump's camp. Behind all the liberal hyperbole and race-baiting, racism actually does exist, you know that right? Do you remember the shit that got chanted at his rallies? You think it's any coincidence that all the Trump supporters on this forum keep getting banned for primate metaphors?

[AzzarTheGod]

You don't see the problem with that? People voted against the last 8 years of Bush, then the last 8 years of Obama, and all that happens is a tag-team gangbang. Maybe, just maybe, that's an ill-informed rationale for voting. Should be weighing the candidates on their relative merits. I'd have taken another 4-8 years of Obama over what we ended up with any day. Obviously we're not going to agree on that point and I think we both know why. Oh well, enjoy drinking your toxic fucked-up frackwater and breathing radioactive mercury-laden coal dust.

Environment was issue #1 for me and there's no defending Trump or the GOP on that one.

lol people have no idea scientific studies proved that mercury toxicity can be instituted in a human life form down to the nano-gram. there is already a huge problem with too much mercury being circulated in the United States and Western Europe in general. So much so that the entire world had to get together and acknowledge how toxic it is, and that its the one line item that the entire world, including china agreed on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_Convention_on_Mercury

140 countries dumb asses. Global warming wishes it was that relevant.

enjoy ur shit ass coal. sure 0bama wasted 500 million on the Solyndra fraud, but that doesn't mean we should abandon technologies that could...o wait the petro dollar is the only thing backing the US fiat currency.

nevermind, burn bb burn, ignore the Minamata Treaty that John Kerry broke his ass to get done

P.S. it only took 3 years (2013-2016) to bring China on board with an international treaty that stands to hurt their own industrialization the most. that's unprecedented.

[Ahldagor]

Oil backed fiat currency that Iran now refuses to use in order to trade oil. Saddam and Kadafi now how that dance ends.

[Jarnauga]

Yawn

Yeah dude I voted against the last 8 years and against Hillary. Was that a secret? You gonna be voting for Macron or against Le Pen? Be honest frenchie

voting Hamon on 1st turn, and anyone who's not le pen on 2nd, easy

[Pokesan]

maybe i was wrong

http://i.imgur.com/QtcmoX5.jpg

[JurisDictum]

maybe i was wrong

http://i.imgur.com/QtcmoX5.jpg

This is kind of what I was hoping for -- but I'm prepared to be disappointed. IDK when these richboys are going to get it through their skulls that working people don't agree with how the economy is managed...even if they are inarticulate about what they want.

Trump could actually pull it off if he does real populism and not fake rhetorical populism.

[AzzarTheGod]

140 countries. Global warming wishes it was that relevant.


whoooooooooooooooo dats dat woke boys. wheres ur global warming at in light of the Minmata Treaty?

You got shit son blow it out ur ase

[Angushjalmur]

quoting yourself and saying youre woke makes you less woke, even if the quote is wide awake, fam

[Baler]

What happened to the good old days when patriots stood behind the commander-in-chief?

[Baler]

-

What happened to the good old days when what happened behind closed doors stayed behind closed door.

like you, freak.

[Pokesan]

it's extremely heinous to see people support amoral evil men who have done horrible things, promote horrible things, promote molestation of minors


but enough about bill clinton

[Pokesan]

I never supported Bill Clinton. And I had plenty of bones to pick about Obama.

Go read my last post though, and look at the part specifically about hypocrites.

Besides, we all know, those of us that aren't 100% completely lost to insanity and mindless devotion to evil, we all know how bad Trump is. We don't have to believe whats alleged, or use Bill Clinton to apologize or justify or defend Trump. Doing so is completely unchristian and completely ignorant and evil and selfish.

I would never use Trump to justify Hillary or Bill. I hate them all. I'm much more disgusted and dismayed by Trump and his supporters though. And all the weak willed cowards who won't do their civic duty. We could fix this. But we won't because your going to point fingers at Bill, instead of doing whats right and supporting the god damned truth.

And yes, my former insanely complex, and horribley grammatically bad posts above, are super genious and amazingly awesome and absolutely 100% correct, no one can argue with me, because I will just tweet about how bad they are!

I fucking blame Al Gore too. That guy started the 'conspiracy" crap by promoting false facts and using hyperbole. He thought if he could make it profitable, he could make it politically popular to "do the right thing" that was wrong, because it was deceptive and he wanted to be rich$ and lauded as a hero. Everyone knows that the real profits, come from a healthy strong country and society that doesn't depend on whabist oil and crazy foreign global trade wars. Two wrongs don't make a right though, and it also doesn't mean that there isn't a seriously bad problem with our corporations and oligarchs and our environments.

I'm extremely proud of the people who didn't vote for Trump, but voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson instead. Too bad more didn't. I like Jill Steins fireside chats, though I don't think she's as evil as Al Gore. So she's a lot less shady than Hillary and Trump IMO.

Hey your kind of dumb though if your using "MY judge of characters" to vote for and against candidates... like why would it even matter who I like! It doesn't :D

Don't pretend that there's some "enemy" you "must" "vote against". Because there isn't. The only enemy is yourself.

bill clinton is a rapist

[Pokesan]

OK - I do not wish to judge without the facts, but I can except this is your perspective.

How does "bill Clinton is a rapist" affect us right now? What relevance does this even have to what's right now? Is it an excuse for people to slurp up Bannons sick salty alchohalic seed of administrative destruction?

I do not think anyone is going to "bring Billy to justice". We're too busy destroying each-other over dumb fucking falsehoods and extremist propaganda.

he should be in jail

[Pokesan]

So should like a lot of other people. Is this ALL you are concerned about? If so, how do you think this radical extreme obsession with Bill Clinton and him being "free" is affecting your life?

Does Bill Clinton being free, make all the other lies and wrongs in the world, untruths, half truths, stretches of the imagination, alternative facts or hateful propaganda OK? Does it make untrue shit true? Does it mean we should abandon all rationality, and faith, and compassion and blindly follow a FURIOUS IDIOT to the destruction of democracy?

sorry i thought a survivor of abuse would agree rapists should go to jail

[Pokesan]

Oh yes, I think they should. Again, zero of what I feel about Bill being a rapist is relevant to the current Groper in Chief. Or other issues of more paramount importance.

so we agree that bill clinton should be in jail?

yes/no

[Lune]

It's much more likely Bill Clinton's voracious sexual appetite was consensual, because he was actually charming and somewhat desirable to women. Donald Trump on the other hand had to import mail order brides from Eastern Europe.

[Bazia]

http://i.imgur.com/74M67GS.jpg

[fan D]

when elf nerds talk politics..............................

[Angushjalmur]

I don't absolutely 100% for sure know. Is that OK?

Should definitely be in jail if he raped someone.

Now - on topic what do you think about this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wh-spokeswoman-doesnt-trump-accepts-fbis-reported-denial/story?id=45935585

Should he? Comey flat out said Hillary was guilty of everything but they werent going to do anything about it. Comey is confirmed paid off.

It's much more likely Bill Clinton's voracious sexual appetite was consensual, because he was actually charming and somewhat desirable to women. Donald Trump on the other hand had to import mail order brides from Eastern Europe.
Victim blaming liberal scum
http://i.imgur.com/74M67GS.jpg

If the civil war v2 pops off, we'll make those areas safe again :)

[AzzarTheGod]

when elf nerds talk politics..............................

and angushjalmur questions my posting style

kek

[Angushjalmur]

having a style and not being forum-fluid is a transphobic microaggression azzar you need to be more considerate of other kins

[Lune]

http://i.imgur.com/VispKgl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fcMKwTN.jpg

[maskedmelonpai]

http://i.imgur.com/VispKgl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fcMKwTN.jpg

he have a pimple on his chin.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/VispKgl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fcMKwTN.jpg


lmao my zaga lune really came thru on this 1.

woke post. dat President Taft fat ass.

hes now surpassed Taft as the fattest ass to hold office

[JurisDictum]

It wasn't commonly accepted that making a pass on your inferiors at work was a form of coercive rape back in Bill's day. We should keep in mind that Bill would probably have been a little less sexually reckless in modern times then he was in the 90s. I doubt he was thinking "wtf is she going to do about it mwahhahaha."

The same goes for FDR, JFK and all the other womanizer presidents we have had in the past.

[JurisDictum]

But then again, there is this:

https://gfycat.com/MajorMedicalKinkajou

(supposedly look at Ivanka)

[Ahldagor]

When's China gonna play ball on North Korea?

[JurisDictum]

But then again, there is this:

https://gfycat.com/MajorMedicalKinkajou

(supposedly look at Ivanka)

I usually wouldn't quote my own post -- but I just realized how uncomfortable Michelle Obama in the middle looked there.

[Pokesan]

check out the bulge tho

hey everybody! look at the presidents penis!

[AzzarTheGod]

check out the bulge tho

hey everybody! look at the presidents penis!


"There's no problem there believe me." - prez fatcock at a GOP debate where Rubio questioned the size of his hands

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/VispKgl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fcMKwTN.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

MAGA MILK

http://i.imgur.com/fpD7vdL.gif

*daps tits*

[Pokesan]

UN was like 'assange did nothing wrong let him go'

two weeks later he leaks our entire cyberwar arsenal

come on

[Mike B]

RIP nerd destroyah

[JurisDictum]

Trump is toast. He basically proposed something like Obamacare only worse in every metric. Some of the tru-believers in market based healthcare will argue that otherwise for awhile...but they will change their tune as the massive unpopularity of the law becomes apparent.

People want affordable healthcare. The only proven ways to do that are:

A) invent a time machine and go back to when healthcare was cheaper

B) single payer system

Single payer is inevitable. Trump blew the one chance he had to save private health insurance from itself.

Edit: looks like the medical devise lobbyists finally got what they paid for...lol America.

[JurisDictum]

I guess I should add that it does appear that Trump is throwing big Pharma under the bus a bit. Which is good. But it won't be enough.

[Lune]

It's pathetic that this was all they could come up with. After all those years of bitching and moaning and crying about Obamacare and how bad it is, they get their chance to do it their way. And what do they do? Slight tweaks on Obamacare. Peeling back some coverage and massively undercutting the funding base, and conceding that most of Obamacare's key provisions were wildly popular. It fixes absolutely nothing that is fundamentally wrong with our healthcare system.

The most depressing part is that as it currently stands, it will make the entire system insolvent (from lack of funding and mandates), but little of it will take effect until 2020, which means during the 2020 presidential election nobody will be able to call out the GOP on what a disaster it was. (Obama did this move too with the ACA but it was groundbreaking enough for people to get outraged about it anyway)

[AzzarTheGod]

It's pathetic that this was all they could come up with. After all those years of bitching and moaning and crying about Obamacare and how bad it is, they get their chance to do it their way. And what do they do? Slight tweaks on Obamacare. Peeling back some coverage and massively undercutting the funding base, and conceding that most of Obamacare's key provisions were wildly popular. It fixes absolutely nothing that is fundamentally wrong with our healthcare system.

The most depressing part is that as it currently stands, it will make the entire system insolvent (from lack of funding and mandates), but little of it will take effect until 2020, which means during the 2020 presidential election nobody will be able to call out the GOP on what a disaster it was. (Obama did this move too with the ACA but it was groundbreaking enough for people to get outraged about it anyway)


browsed the structure of this post. noticed some careless i dont care vibe to it and a lack of usual use of paragraphs and sentence structure and appropriate separation of ideas.

decidedly, didn't read. if the poster doesnt care then neither do I

[JurisDictum]

browsed the structure of this post. noticed some careless i dont care vibe to it and a lack of usual use of paragraphs and sentence structure and appropriate separation of ideas.

decidedly, didn't read. if the poster doesnt care then neither do I

You know that's funny coming from you.

[AzzarTheGod]

You know that's funny coming from you.

my posts are lucid. just because u dont like the delivery doesnt make the points not coherent.

i gave u 2k posts of standard fare, u got this now cuz ur not paying me anything.

[Nilstoniakrath]

It's pathetic that this was all they could come up with. After all those years of bitching and moaning and crying about Obamacare and how bad it is, they get their chance to do it their way. And what do they do? Slight tweaks on Obamacare. Peeling back some coverage and massively undercutting the funding base, and conceding that most of Obamacare's key provisions were wildly popular. It fixes absolutely nothing that is fundamentally wrong with our healthcare system.

The most depressing part is that as it currently stands, it will make the entire system insolvent (from lack of funding and mandates), but little of it will take effect until 2020, which means during the 2020 presidential election nobody will be able to call out the GOP on what a disaster it was. (Obama did this move too with the ACA but it was groundbreaking enough for people to get outraged about it anyway)

Couldn't agree more... pathetic

[Ahldagor]

Anyone really suprised that the GOP is just as feckless as DNC? All about maintaining power, shoring up votes, protecting personal interests, and laughing to the bank. America is for the whores because if you have dignity then, well, good luck.

[Daywolf]

Anyone really suprised that the GOP is just as feckless as DNC? All about maintaining power, shoring up votes, protecting personal interests, and laughing to the bank. America is for the whores because if you have dignity then, well, good luck.
It's interesting how the progressives quickly forget that the GOP just had an internal civil war, and the establishment lost. Yet in the Demoncrat party the establishment won (then lost). And still the GOP is far from united, it can't, and it shouldn't, not until the establishment RINO's leave the party and sign up with their true party, the Demoncrat party controlled by the establishment progressives. Yes, both parties have those types, and traitors one and all they be. Globalism is a scourge.

[Daywolf]

Fuck daywolf and his ilk.
I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond your preferred age range. Body hair would be one indication of that...

[chadtwoke]

I love how our current GOP just signed an executive order to give guns to the mentally ill than whants to make sure health providers and insurance companies can discriminate against the "mentally" ill.

Fuck daywolf and his ilk.

you should be happy that you can still get a gun, then.

[Ahldagor]

It's interesting how the progressives quickly forget that the GOP just had an internal civil war, and the establishment lost. Yet in the Demoncrat party the establishment won (then lost). And still the GOP is far from united, it can't, and it shouldn't, not until the establishment RINO's leave the party and sign up with their true party, the Demoncrat party controlled by the establishment progressives. Yes, both parties have those types, and traitors one and all they be. Globalism is a scourge.

How long until Trump signs the order for the invasion of Iran? Iran did just stop using the dollar for oil trade.

[Daywolf]

How long until Trump signs the order for the invasion of Iran? Iran did just stop using the dollar for oil trade.
We're not going to invade Iran, I'm sure of it. HRC would have, fur sure, and on Russia too, but otherwise not going to happen. Trump wont risk Israel, there are no side-door entrances going on with this administration as with the last. But what is going to happen though, Iran is going to stay in Syria (Putin and Netanyahu met yesterday to try to defuse that), the base near Lebanon currently, while their ISIS forces in Damascus. They are all already on the border with Israel, waiting for more to join them. Once they are all together ready to invade, poof, we see what a neutronic war looks like via the Samson Option. Bookmark this post :)

[Pokesan]

you can identify a serious thinker by how often they refer to the opposition party as demons

[Daywolf]

you can identify a serious thinker by how often they refer to the opposition party as demons
It's all that sweet sweet soul cooking going on over there along with chicken dinners Moloch style. I guess it's just the place to be on a black sabbath.


As for the Samson Option, seems the only logical scenario where Israel and the region survives. Well most of he region anyway :o I don't think it intentional by Trump though, it's just the obvious outcome of him not pushing the button. And likely, pushing the button on Iran would result in a world conflict, with Fukushima x100 as no one is hardly left to shut down the reactors - Unless it's a zombie apocalypse, they aaaalways figure out how to shut them cores down somehow :p
ps. still never been a Repub, both are "opposition parties" to me.

[JurisDictum]

At first I was pretty concerned about a war in Iran...but lets face it, Trump would never get away with it. Unless Iran bombed the shit out of Israel or something crazy. Even then he would get flak for it.

Bush had public opinion on his side. We had a massive terror attack and knew nothing about the middle east (except a small minority). The public probably wouldn't fall for it again.

[AzzarTheGod]

We're not going to invade Iran, I'm sure of it. HRC would have, fur sure, and on Russia too, but otherwise not going to happen. Trump wont risk Israel, there are no side-door entrances going on with this administration as with the last. But what is going to happen though, Iran is going to stay in Syria (Putin and Netanyahu met yesterday to try to defuse that), the base near Lebanon currently, while their ISIS forces in Damascus. They are all already on the border with Israel, waiting for more to join them. Once they are all together ready to invade, poof, we see what a neutronic war looks like via the Samson Option. Bookmark this post :)

It's all that sweet sweet soul cooking going on over there along with chicken dinners Moloch style. I guess it's just the place to be on a black sabbath.


As for the Samson Option, seems the only logical scenario where Israel and the region survives. Well most of he region anyway :o I don't think it intentional by Trump though, it's just the obvious outcome of him not pushing the button. And likely, pushing the button on Iran would result in a world conflict, with Fukushima x100 as no one is hardly left to shut down the reactors - Unless it's a zombie apocalypse, they aaaalways figure out how to shut them cores down somehow :p
ps. still never been a Repub, both are "opposition parties" to me.


Yes daywolf posts! Delicious. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, friend, welcome back.

[Ahldagor]

We're not going to invade Iran, I'm sure of it. HRC would have, fur sure, and on Russia too, but otherwise not going to happen. Trump wont risk Israel, there are no side-door entrances going on with this administration as with the last. But what is going to happen though, Iran is going to stay in Syria (Putin and Netanyahu met yesterday to try to defuse that), the base near Lebanon currently, while their ISIS forces in Damascus. They are all already on the border with Israel, waiting for more to join them. Once they are all together ready to invade, poof, we see what a neutronic war looks like via the Samson Option. Bookmark this post :)

So what do you think the liklihood of the USA giving Iran the Gaddafi treatment (Obama's way of handling those who decided to not use the dollar for oil)? Or maybe this administration goes full blown Monroe doctrine and stabalizes Venezuela?

[Daywolf]

So what do you think the liklihood of the USA giving Iran the Gaddafi treatment (Obama's way of handling those who decided to not use the dollar for oil)? Or maybe this administration goes full blown Monroe doctrine and stabalizes Venezuela?

Same as my previous post. We won't invade, wont assassinate, likely not any large scale currency wars or such. Likely the diplomatic approach with a gotcha play of some sort as he's more famous for doing. Hard to say what he will do compared to wont do.

You may not know it, but Iran switched on the missile defense shield last week which they bought from Russia a couple years back. Additionally, we are now boots on the ground in Syria working with the Syrian govt to weed out isis. That means we are coordinating with the Russians which are coordinating with the Iranians ... well to some degree, they seem more concerned with the southern border.

It's not a happy spot though, still US - Russian tensions due to Crimea. Russia wants to keep, Trump says no-no. Russia not liking that so much since Crimea has been a part of Russia since before the American Revolution, me luv u long time, I guess. Then there are still those US/NATO troops building on the Russian border, Poland etc. The middle-east is likely the next big hot-spot though, while the NATO position in Europe could stand as a deterrent for Russian involvement just as was achieved during the Israeli 6-day war with the US - Russian standoff.

But likely something will happen, and Russia will get involved if Iran decides to move. Maybe economic collapse... hmm.. which is a globalist time bomb as I've mentioned before, inevitable. Depends what happens between now and May, many possibilities. Well May and through the summer months, but May Day has always been a big thing for certain countries and their timing for starting big wars.

[Ahldagor]

So continuing what Obama started with a srict, lengthy, diplomatic approach towards dealing with Iran and Russia? So more of the status quo?

[Daywolf]

So continuing what Obama started with a srict, lengthy, diplomatic approach towards dealing with Iran and Russia? So more of the status quo?
You mean 0bama and his nuclear deal and lotsa $$$?
No.

Was one of the reasons I like Rand Paul so much, he called BS on it from the start, while all the progressive and RINO establishment elites cheered for such a great step fwd for peace in our time... and a nuclear armed Iran. No, just like I said, bookmark that post, there will be war, just not in the way that you are thinking. That was the establishment/global elites plan to outright invade Iran (and Russia), but just aint going to happen now.

Diplomacy first. Sanctions, or even surgical strikes as happens in the middle-east on nuclear programs, though I think it be too late for any such strikes. I mean they are so dug in and defended you'd need to turn the sand to glass to even come close.

War is inevitable, and likely sooner than we may think, but only when they show themselves in a vulnerable position, as they ready for a full blown assault. And Iran will do it, they are Shia Muslims. It's mandated for them so to bring up their Muad'Dib from the well.

[Ahldagor]

Why do you think that?

[Daywolf]

Why do you think that?
Because there was this scorpion at the bank of a river. The scorpion looked up and saw a bird. The scorpion called to the bird "hey bird! give me a ride to the other side of the river!". The bird laughed and said "no! you'll sting me, scorpion". The scorpion said "Oh no way! I swear I won't sing you, bird, I just want to meet with my family on the other side!". The bird thought to himself for a moment and said "ok I will give you a ride to the other side of the river, scorpion".

Half-way across the river, the scorpion stung the bird. As they fell out of the sky together towards the middle of the river, the bird said to the scorpion "WHY DID YOU STING ME, NOW WE WILL BOTH DIE IN THE RIVER!". The scorpion responded "because I'm a scorpion".

[Pokesan]

Because there was this scorpion at the bank of a river. The scorpion looked up and saw a bird. The scorpion called to the bird "hey bird! give me a ride to the other side of the river!". The bird laughed and said "no! you'll sting me, scorpion". The scorpion said "Oh no way! I swear I won't sing you, bird, I just want to meet with my family on the other side!". The bird thought to himself for a moment and said "ok I will give you a ride to the other side of the river, scorpion".

Half-way across the river, the scorpion stung the bird. As they fell out of the sky together towards the middle of the river, the bird said to the scorpion "WHY DID YOU STING ME, NOW WE WILL BOTH DIE IN THE RIVER!". The scorpion responded "because I'm a scorpion".

and the moral of the story is heavy drug abuse

[Pokesan]

here's my theory: global politics is way too complicated to be summarized by animal puns

[Daywolf]

here's my theory: global politics is way too complicated to be summarized by animal puns

Yes! 100% correct, this story originated from the middle-east and is mostly said to describe the situation there. I'm glad you recognized that, you must have gotten the info from this https://youtu.be/9kAEoCHANYY

[JurisDictum]

Can't do a war without public support. The public continues to be highly suspicious of war.

There certainly isn't a lot of evidence that anyone is cool with going to war with Russia. You know -- the world's second biggest nuclear power.

Even when it comes to killing Muslims in the dessert there is little patience. I don't have a crystal ball when it comes to what might happen hundreds of years from now. But I doubt within Trump's tenure he will get any public support for big conflict.

His best bet is North Korea. There has always been a good case for a war with North Korea and then letting South Korea take over the rebuilding/democratizing aspect of the whole thing. But Trump is so unpopular, the public probably wouldn't even trust him with that one.

[Daywolf]

You learn that watching MTV? >.>

Sell the crystal ball, buy a white flag to carry around with you as you crawl through life with your eyes wide shut and fingers in your ears. Maybe they'll spare you...
prolly not :o

[AzzarTheGod]

You learn that watching MTV? >.>

Sell the crystal ball, buy a white flag to carry around with you as you crawl through life with your eyes wide shut and fingers in your ears. Maybe they'll spare you...
prolly not :o

my zaga daywolf


here's my theory: global politics is way too complicated to be summarized by animal puns


nuh uh meanie

[Ahldagor]

So it'll be a continuation of diplomacy from the Trump administrstion set up by the Obama administration by to prevent war that'll inevitably lead to war because of fate or whomever was the scorpion in the fable?
Who or what was the scorpion representing?

[Lune]

Can't do a war without public support. The public continues to be highly suspicious of war.

There certainly isn't a lot of evidence that anyone is cool with going to war with Russia. You know -- the world's second biggest nuclear power.

Even when it comes to killing Muslims in the dessert there is little patience. I don't have a crystal ball when it comes to what might happen hundreds of years from now. But I doubt within Trump's tenure he will get any public support for big conflict.

His best bet is North Korea. There has always been a good case for a war with North Korea and then letting South Korea take over the rebuilding/democratizing aspect of the whole thing. But Trump is so unpopular, the public probably wouldn't even trust him with that one.

Pushing around small countries gives Americans a raging hardon. A war against North Korea would be wildly popular, just like Iraq was initially wildly popular. Trump would only need to market it properly, say they had some new development in ICBM range or warhead miniaturization.

Would also be a big boon to the millions of young American males who sign up to kill people to improve their socio-economic situation.

[Daywolf]

So it'll be a continuation of diplomacy from the Trump administrstion set up by the Obama administration by to prevent war that'll inevitably lead to war because of fate or whomever was the scorpion in the fable?
Who or what was the scorpion representing?
hmm? Well I mentioned the story originated in the middle-east, I heard it first decades ago. And we were discussing Persia ... er I mean Iran that Hitler renamed it to. So in this case I'm prolly referring to that country, though the story meaning is broader than just Iran, but includes them. Never heard that story before? It's very well known there.

Trump recited a version of the story here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu6_2hFTw74 undoubtedly based on the original scorpion version.

As for what 0bama did, how can Trump continue that?? That's done, it was a big fat gift, appeasement to the scorpion. Why do you want to spark a war right now so badly? It's too late to stop that, they are ready, will move soon, 0bama already made that happen, done deal. Now it's just a matter of waiting for a vulnerability, as any well schooled tactician would tell you. All you would be doing is giving them what they want, a huge dirty world war on their terms so they can fulfill their muslim sects prophecy.

The region is full of invaders, they won't always hide in shelters. This has repeated time and time again, and defeated each time. Their weakness is at a level of the definition of insanity: keep doing the same damn thing again and again expecting a different result.

[Pokesan]

Daywolf carrying water for for the pro-war (((People)))

[Patriam1066]

hmm? Well I mentioned the story originated in the middle-east, I heard it first decades ago. And we were discussing Persia ... er I mean Iran that Hitler renamed it to. So in this case I'm prolly referring to that country, though the story meaning is broader than just Iran, but includes them. Never heard that story before? It's very well known there.

Trump recited a version of the story here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu6_2hFTw74 undoubtedly based on the original scorpion version.

As for what 0bama did, how can Trump continue that?? That's done, it was a big fat gift, appeasement to the scorpion. Why do you want to spark a war right now so badly? It's too late to stop that, they are ready, will move soon, 0bama already made that happen, done deal. Now it's just a matter of waiting for a vulnerability, as any well schooled tactician would tell you. All you would be doing is giving them what they want, a huge dirty world war on their terms so they can fulfill their muslim sects prophecy.

The region is full of invaders, they won't always hide in shelters. This has repeated time and time again, and defeated each time. Their weakness is at a level of the definition of insanity: keep doing the same damn thing again and again expecting a different result.

Hey dude

Iran has been invaded by Greeks, Arabs, Turks, and mongols in its history

Who is the scorpion again?

PS: Iran was called that natively since the Sassanian period. It was never called Persia since that's a transliteration of a Greek word. Hope this helps!

[AzzarTheGod]

Pushing around small countries gives Americans a raging hardon. A war against North Korea would be wildly popular, just like Iraq was initially wildly popular. Trump would only need to market it properly, say they had some new development in ICBM range or warhead miniaturization.

Would also be a big boon to the millions of young American males who sign up to kill people to improve their socio-economic situation.

Wouldn't it be funny if it turned out North Korea hasn't launched or even so much as said a damn word for the past 30 years, and the missile talk is just a Chinese intelligence asset that sort of cooperates and aligns with US interests when it stands to benefit, but also sometimes just gives the US a bone to chew on in geopolitics.

Look how China daddies down North Korea when the US begs and offers incentives...

Its mafia-esque, thats the definition of racketeering. Creating the problem, to offer the solution to the problem for money. We know its very unlikely North Korea has any capability that has not been granted to them by directly by China. So even if they have the missiles, or gained technology, Its a legitimate racket.

Disgusting. Yeah look everyone at the barking steroid coked up mad dog in the bar, but if you pay his quiet friend 20 bucks the dog can't see you for the next few nights and might even bite other people for you. (friend witnessed this gimmick in a mob frequented area back in the early 1990's, had a collar on and everything. Someone ended up whipping the dogs ass, but not before the owner laughed his ass off. Thats China.)

[Nihilist_santa]

Looks like Brexit is going through and with recent moves by Turkey today against the dutch and EU Le Pen and Wilders will be a shoe in. Wanted to congratulate (((Januaga))) for most consecutive missed predictions by a single person.

[AzzarTheGod]

Looks like Brexit is going through and with recent moves by Turkey today against the dutch and EU Le Pen and Wilders will be a shoe in. Wanted to congratulate (((Januaga))) for most consecutive missed predictions by a single person.

Been listening to BBC satellite radio recently, its been very surprisingly pro-Brexit without even needing to be pro-Brexit. They just do what the American media cannot, they accept REALITY. They discuss how to accomplish Brexit, the stages involved, and what is likely to happen without ANY bitterness or bias. They ACCEPT democracy. The vote is OVER.

They had a vote (((Jarnauga))) lost.

Its nice when news casters and anchors actually cover the events and are aligned with the interests of the people. Much more pleasant to listen to actual facts and the way forward instead of how to tear it down and destroy it.

[Daywolf]

Looks like Brexit is going through and with recent moves by Turkey today against the dutch and EU Le Pen and Wilders will be a shoe in. Wanted to congratulate (((Januaga))) for most consecutive missed predictions by a single person.Well yeah, Turkey you can write off. They be in with Russia and Iran now. Been headed that way for some time, and still headed.

Hey dude

Iran has been invaded by Greeks, Arabs, Turks, and mongols in its history

Who is the scorpion again?

PS: Iran was called that natively since the Sassanian period. It was never called Persia since that's a transliteration of a Greek word. Hope this helps!
Well you likely know this, it's the ideology wrapped up into that pseudo-religion. So it's not just a nation or ethnicity.

As for the name, search Iran and Hitler. It's Aryan, they changed it in 1935.


Daywolf carrying water for for the pro-war (((People)))

Pro-defense, yeah. We still have interest in the region, just invasion is too costly in lives and resources. We're Americans, and with short memories, little patience. We should have learned by now. Maybe we have a little, by the results of the recent election.

Best way I can describe the world right now: cascade failure.

[Ahldagor]

Zoroastrianism was the official religion of Iran when it was initially called Iran back in the 200's.

How's that information relate to the scorpion analogy? Curious.

[Glesni99]

Been listening to BBC satellite radio recently, its been very surprisingly pro-Brexit without even needing to be pro-Brexit. They just do what the American media cannot, they accept REALITY. They discuss how to accomplish Brexit, the stages involved, and what is likely to happen without ANY bitterness or bias. They ACCEPT democracy. The vote is OVER.

They had a vote (((Jarnauga))) lost.

Its nice when news casters and anchors actually cover the events and are aligned with the interests of the people. Much more pleasant to listen to actual facts and the way forward instead of how to tear it down and destroy it.

Ach, the BBC is an establishment mouthpiece - we just pay for it o_0. They usually do provide an illusion of balance - you're right - but with the recent tectonic shift to knuckle dragging central it seem's that's no longer deemed necessary. A Whitehall more ruthless than Thatcher's is taking us on a Victorian extravaganza, in plain view and with the woefully badly informed consent of the electorate : Dickensian Values, scapegoating and brown shirts are in.

Brexit won a narrow victory on a wave of populism, and deceit - and the results will not be aligned with the interests of the people at all. It's an unmitigated economic disaster for everyone in the UK who isn't wealthy enough to have off shore accounts, shares in Fracking, Private Health Care, G4S.

Just to give you an example of the insanity being delivered here - the EU accounts for 90% of Welsh Agricultural exports, and 70% of the rest. As a result of Brexit we're OUT of that single market, without a plan.

Additionally, I'm not sure if the top Brexiteers planed for the break up of the UK as a result, but with NI talking reunification with Ireland, and Scotland announcing a new Independence referendum - there may be no UK left to make Great Again - it will be little England, with less oil, less water, less whisky, and no where to park their nukes o_0

[Daywolf]

Zoroastrianism was the official religion of Iran when it was initially called Iran back in the 200's.

How's that information relate to the scorpion analogy? Curious.
You mean Arya. I already mentioned the link to Hitler and why he wanted the name changed, him and his obsession with the occult and proving the Aryan race being as demi-gods from outer space. I'm not concerned with tales of proto-names, which could be as fake as the oral tales of Mohammad - which are very fake. They are Persians, the remnant of the great Persian Empire. There are no Aryans nor any Aryan mother ship hovering over Earth somewhere :D

Now back to the sub-topic at hand:
Senator Queries President on Iran Payments Iran Nuclear Deal (https://youtu.be/QgD2IuZcyKM)
John Kerry: ‘Some’ Iran Deal Money Will End Up In the Hands of Terrorists (https://youtu.be/Jjm0uSaHNjM)

There are the culprits, and both should be locked up ... just like Ma0. You are all bitching on how Trump is going to deal with the Demoncrats engineered mess :/
$$$$$BILLIONS$$$$$$$$ Your Demoncrat (and RINO's) globalist masters built the modern Iran nuclear program. They have nukes and they are having more thanks to 0bama. What's the saying? Stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. So maybe time best to step aside and let the big boys deal with it.

[Pokesan]

They are Persians, the remnant of the great Persian Empire.



you realize a guy from what you call "Persia" gave you a flat "no" on this idea?

stop it.

[maskedmelon]

but Persian sound sexy and not evil though...

[Patriam1066]

You mean Arya. I already mentioned the link to Hitler and why he wanted the name changed, him and his obsession with the occult and proving the Aryan race being as demi-gods from outer space. I'm not concerned with tales of proto-names, which could be as fake as the oral tales of Mohammad - which are very fake. They are Persians, the remnant of the great Persian Empire. There are no Aryans nor any Aryan mother ship hovering over Earth somewhere :D

Now back to the sub-topic at hand:
Senator Queries President on Iran Payments Iran Nuclear Deal (https://youtu.be/QgD2IuZcyKM)
John Kerry: ‘Some’ Iran Deal Money Will End Up In the Hands of Terrorists (https://youtu.be/Jjm0uSaHNjM)

There are the culprits, and both should be locked up ... just like Ma0. You are all bitching on how Trump is going to deal with the Demoncrats engineered mess :/
$$$$$BILLIONS$$$$$$$$ Your Demoncrat (and RINO's) globalist masters built the modern Iran nuclear program. They have nukes and they are having more thanks to 0bama. What's the saying? Stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. So maybe time best to step aside and let the big boys deal with it.

There were Aryans. They took over Iran and India and most of Europe. They probably contributed nothing genetically and a great deal linguistically (check out Latin and Sanskrit).

That doesn't mean anything. Iran simply means "land of the Aryans," which is what they called their country. I say they, because Iran has been invaded by Arabs, Turks, and mongols since then. Who knows if those people were genetically similar or dissimilar to me. I don't really know and I don't care. Regardless, the culture was passed down, the name Iran is ancient, hitler had nothing to do with it

The first modern Shah did look west, but to Ataturk rather than to Hitler. He took headscarves off of women, tried to modernize roads, etc

He formally changed the international name to Iran because, as I said, PERSIA is a Greek word and no one has ever called Iran that from within the country. I have no idea what they called it prior to the Sassanian period, probably Iranistan, Eranistan, Iranshahr, Aryana, I have no clue. That said, the name "Iran" is roughly 1800 years old and is attested in some of the earliest written Sassanian sources

Here's the thing: the Medes and Persians had ancestors who were horseman and who preferred oral traditions to writing. The Persians never tried to replace either Greek or Aramaic as lingua francas or writing systems because they didn't give a fuck and thought that those things were feminine. The Sassanians wanted to modernize AND, probably more importantly, they wanted to codify Zoroastrian liturgy since they were way more authoritarian and centralized than the Parthian Arsacid dynasty that preceded them (and continued to rule Armenia). NEWAYZ, my point is, as soon as there was a Persian form of writing you start seeing "Iran" pop up contemporaneously with Greek sources referring to it as "Persia". It's possible that the name Iran precedes the name Persia but wasn't written down

Regardless, you're not correct on this topic

[Pokesan]

@Jarnauga - vote for the "fascist", not the cuck

[maskedmelonpai]

so Persians is aryan? that why they look so good? it ok to talk about aryans now?

[JurisDictum]

LoL@Ryancare tanking. This guy (Ryan) is so full of himself it makes me sick. He actually believes that most Americans value tax cuts for the rich -- or at least does a very good job pretending he thinks Americans want that above anything else.

Ryan apparently lives on an alternate planet where everyone makes 250k a year and wants a tax cut by getting the government out of healthcare. Or maybe he thinks that's the only kind of person that takes notice of what he does.

Here's who puts Paul Ryan in Power BTW:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004357

[AzzarTheGod]

LoL@Ryancare tanking. This guy (Ryan) is so full of himself it makes me sick. He actually believes that most Americans value tax cuts for the rich -- or at least does a very good job pretending he thinks Americans want that above anything else.

Ryan apparently lives on an alternate planet where everyone makes 250k a year and wants a tax cut by getting the government out of healthcare. Or maybe he thinks that's the only kind of person that takes notice of what he does.

Here's who puts Paul Ryan in Power BTW:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004357

lmao

Retired $4,430,717 $4,430,717 $0

[Daywolf]

so Persians is aryan? that why they look so good? it ok to talk about aryans now?
Nah there are no real Aryans, that was a myth that started out of ancient Babylon. Or really based on the myth out of ancient Babylon with different names but all the same symbology and general lore. Just like they orbit that big black cube in mecca, that's from the myth out of ancient Babylon, straight up dope. You see such things like that through most cultures and religions, to the point of a unifying factor if all else stripped away from them... sorta like a cheap whore :D

Most of this stuff from the middle-east you gotta dig up, then guess at. Strong oral tradition, yes. Just like that islam stuff, they played the telephone game with it for 250 years before anyone bothered writing it down somewhere :o Then when they did, years later 90% of it was thrown out what they did write down from the telephone game.

[Ahldagor]

Nah there are no real Aryans, that was a myth that started out of ancient Babylon. Or really based on the myth out of ancient Babylon with different names but all the same symbology and general lore. Just like they orbit that big black cube in mecca, that's from the myth out of ancient Babylon, straight up dope. You see such things like that through most cultures and religions, to the point of a unifying factor if all else stripped away from them... sorta like a cheap whore :D

Most of this stuff from the middle-east you gotta dig up, then guess at. Strong oral tradition, yes. Just like that islam stuff, they played the telephone game with it for 250 years before anyone bothered writing it down somewhere :o Then when they did, years later 90% of it was thrown out what they did write down from the telephone game.

Telephone game like all the books of the Talmud and of Jesus (New Testament)?

Patriam has you game, set, and match in the Iran name. It's okay to be wrong because it doesn't protect you from demons to be right. Neither does sage for that matter. What got you onto that thinking pattern?

[Ahldagor]

LoL@Ryancare tanking. This guy (Ryan) is so full of himself it makes me sick. He actually believes that most Americans value tax cuts for the rich -- or at least does a very good job pretending he thinks Americans want that above anything else.

Ryan apparently lives on an alternate planet where everyone makes 250k a year and wants a tax cut by getting the government out of healthcare. Or maybe he thinks that's the only kind of person that takes notice of what he does.

Here's who puts Paul Ryan in Power BTW:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004357

It's gonna pass, GOP will lose votes like a mother fucker, again, and then another personality cult election will happen for the executive. The grass roots response is the only thing that might change it, kill it, but I doubt it does. They're so dead set on repealling the ACA and replacing it that it's pride at this point and pride goeth beofre the fall.

[Nihilist_santa]

It's gonna pass, GOP will lose votes like a mother fucker, again, and then another personality cult election will happen for the executive. The grass roots response is the only thing that might change it, kill it, but I doubt it does. They're so dead set on repealling the ACA and replacing it that it's pride at this point and pride goeth beofre the fall.

You didnt think Trump would win so sit down. GOP has had nothing but straight gainz to the point of having control of all branches. If anyone loses it will be Ryan who is being sacrificed at the moment because he is a back stabber who refuses to bend the knee.

[Nihilist_santa]

How about those tax returns? Fair share huh? Amirite?

[maskedmelon]

I had to pay $250 :c i was slightly miffed, but glad it wasn't more. more disappointed that this indubitably heralds a new norm in my tax life.

on taxes though, i don't really want to pay any, but I like roads and solvency and stuff. if we not gonna start shooting people for being dumb or fat, we gonna have to pay for them or be eaten by them :c it sucks

[Nibblewitz]

Received more this year than in the last 5 years.

Thanks Obamacare tax credits.

[Daywolf]

Telephone game like all the books of the Talmud and of Jesus (New Testament)?
You're mistaking canonization with authorship. What was canonized was authored by 1st century witnesses during the 1st century. Many of which were put to death in the first century holding to the validity of their witness as being authentic. After all, few to none would die for a lie, not if they knew for certain that it was a lie. But many witnessed first hand, and the same many died.

[Pokesan]

i wish daywolf was cannonized

[Jarnauga]

Looks like Brexit is going through and with recent moves by Turkey today against the dutch and EU Le Pen and Wilders will be a shoe in.

http://i.imgur.com/G80cOhH.png

[AzzarTheGod]

recent moves by Turkey today against the dutch and EU Le Pen and Wilders will be a shoe in.

Geert Wilders is still being stated as far behind and out of reach by BBC Worldwide, which usually makes some attempt to not be biased.

I am not sure about Marine Le Pen, they never discuss French politics. I think they have some kind of agreement to leave France alone. Its all been Turkey and the Dutch with heavy emphasis on the Wilders wave.

Another Trump situation where the polls are not representative of election day?

[Jarnauga]

"Federal judge in Hawaii puts Trump travel ban on hold" (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-travel-ban-faces-key-test-multiple-courtrooms-46138212)

http://i.imgur.com/nbUOnmY.gif

[Glesni99]

Geert Wilders is still being stated as far behind and out of reach by BBC Worldwide, which usually makes some attempt to not be biased.

I am not sure about Marine Le Pen, they never discuss French politics. I think they have some kind of agreement to leave France alone. Its all been Turkey and the Dutch with heavy emphasis on the Wilders wave.

Another Trump situation where the polls are not representative of election day?

Wilders trounced - and a four fold increase in MP's for the GreenLeft. G'wan the Netherlands, with your fabulous education system and social justice - the bulwark against populism and savagery.

[Ahldagor]

You didnt think Trump would win so sit down. GOP has had nothing but straight gainz to the point of having control of all branches. If anyone loses it will be Ryan who is being sacrificed at the moment because he is a back stabber who refuses to bend the knee.

You were wrong about Wilders, so we can sit on the seat together. I'll bring some beers. GOP could be losing support from their bases, money, so we'll see what plays out and drink a beer together. You smoke weed?

[Ahldagor]

You're mistaking canonization with authorship. What was canonized was authored by 1st century witnesses during the 1st century. Many of which were put to death in the first century holding to the validity of their witness as being authentic. After all, few to none would die for a lie, not if they knew for certain that it was a lie. But many witnessed first hand, and the same many died.

No, it was general statement on the oral traditions of most ancient cultures and how that is what passed stories along to future generations until a better tool, writing, came about. I get over analysis, but lordy you must have some dank nuggets where you live.

[maskedmelon]

I am extraordinarily grateful for the advent of writing. My oral delivery leaves much to be desired for me as well as my counterparts and audience. The problem that I encounter is all the good stuff is inside me and when in make to open my mouth, I am suddenly in the world rather than in me and it is very difficult for me to find those things I originally sought to share.

[Ahldagor]

I am extraordinarily grateful for the advent of writing. My oral delivery leaves much to be desired for me as well as my counterparts and audience. The problem that I encounter is all the good stuff is inside me and when in make to open my mouth, I am suddenly in the world rather than in me and it is very difficult for me to find those things I originally sought to share.

Sounds like you have trouble getting outside your self. 20 hits of acid and a candle lit room I prescribe for a cure.

[Psionide]

Pretty awesome budget proposal Trump put forth. Lets cut health, education, and environment services so we can throw even more money into the black hole of the military. Great returns on that, maybe we can get another 400 billion to builds F-35s that don't work.

[Bones]

didnt real through all this but ill just leave this here, an excellent watch if you love to see corruption get curb stomped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr2j8URy80s

America and the world needs more Trey Gowdy.

[Bones]

Pretty awesome budget proposal Trump put forth. Lets cut health, education, and environment services so we can throw even more money into the black hole of the military. Great returns on that, maybe we can get another 400 billion to builds F-35s that don't work.

Yeah was really sad to see that myself. Things were looking optimistically in trumps favor after his address to congress until this happened. It's a complete 180 from what we should be doing. :(

[Jarnauga]

I love the part in the budget where he makes you pay for the wall instead of the mexicans lulz

[Ahldagor]

I love the part in the budget where he makes you pay for the wall instead of the mexicans lulz

Haven't read through the language of the budget yet, but this wiretapping claim seems like a nice distraction if that is true Jarn.

[Jarnauga]

Haven't read through the language of the budget yet, but this wiretapping claim seems like a nice distraction if that is true Jarn.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/donald-trump-border-wall-budget.html?_r=0

[maskedmelon]

just want to point out, no matter which side of the wall you on, you gotta have a batting average IQ if you understood "Mexico will pay for the wall," as Pablo El Mexicano will write a check to Uncle Sam's incompetent staff and overpaid contractors. i mean I know trump is dumb, but we don't need to dement ourselves alongside him while discussing policy. I gonna go back to manipulating numbers that no one will ever care about and beseeching the liberating hand of a giant asteroid in her chariot calamity now.

[Jarnauga]

just want to point out, no matter which side of the wall you on, you gotta have a batting average IQ if you understood "Mexico will pay for the wall," as Pablo El Mexicano will write a check to Uncle Sam's incompetent staff and overpaid contractors. i mean I know trump is dumb, but we don't need to dement ourselves alongside him while discussing policy. I gonna go back to manipulating numbers that no one will ever care about and praying for a giant asteroid now.

so when he said "mexico will pay for the wall" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfxBs5y5eIo), you should have understood that AKSHUALLY, 'murica will pay it BUT mexicans will pay it because of all the market shares they gonna lose in the building business.

Just like the "30 days plan to destroy isis" was 30 mercurian days (http://www.universetoday.com/84663/which-planet-has-the-longest-day/), not earth days.. You silly goose. Oh and don't forget, it's not a muslim ban (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration) either.

Remember boys. Truth doesn't exist. Facts are irrelevant. Everything is an opinion. 2 + 2 = 5.

[maskedmelon]

so when he said "mexico will pay for the wall" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfxBs5y5eIo), you should have understood that AKSHUALLY, 'murica will pay it BUT mexicans will pay it because of all the market shares they gonna lose in the building business.

Just like the "30 days plan to destroy isis" was 30 mercurian days (http://www.universetoday.com/84663/which-planet-has-the-longest-day/), not earth days.. You silly goose. Oh and don't forget, it's not a muslim ban (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration) either.

Remember boys. Truth doesn't exist. Facts are irrelevant. Everything is an opinion. 2 + 2 = 5.

so you sayin you really did believe he meant Mexico was going to write checks to American contractors? ok, fair enough.

[maskedmelon]

im sorry that wasn't nice, i just frustrated and that argument is about as convincing as republican efforts to sell Sara Palin as an intelligent person.

it just not a good argument :c it fine to not like Trump or things he do, but bad arguments just dilute your message :c

[Jarnauga]

so you sayin you really did believe he meant Mexico was going to write checks to American contractors? ok, fair enough.

no i didn't, but i'm sure a lot of his voters did.

it seems to me that trump supporters are like "nah he didn't lie, he's just playing politics, that's what politicians do", and that's just shocking to me i guess :confused:

[Jarnauga]

Unrelated, but i lol'd:

http://i.imgur.com/7Vz0Omc.png

[Nilstoniakrath]

that argument is about as convincing as efforts to sell Sara Palin as an intelligent person :c

as convincing as selling Obama as the most smartest President evah

[JurisDictum]

as convincing as selling Obama as the most smartest President evah

I think its pretty dumb to argue Obama was not smart. Being smart doesn't make you a great president necessarily. But it should be pretty uncontroversial that Obama was quite a bit more intelligent than your average bear.

Reagan might have been the dumbest president in my life time. I think W. Bush wasn't exactly a genius -- but its overstated how stupid he was. A lot of it was just his dyslexia.

[JurisDictum]

oh and Mexico is not going to pay for the wall in any real sense. Any trade concessions we get from then we will pay for in some other area.

[Nilstoniakrath]

I think its pretty dumb to argue Obama was not smart. Being smart doesn't make you a great president necessarily. But it should be pretty uncontroversial that Obama was quite a bit more intelligent than your average bear.

Reagan might have been the dumbest president in my life time. I think W. Bush wasn't exactly a genius -- but its overstated how stupid he was. A lot of it was just his dyslexia.

The average bear is much more intelligent than that retard Obama

[Jarnauga]

The average bear is much more intelligent than that retard Obama

http://i.imgur.com/ZBkEN19.jpg

[Nilstoniakrath]

http://i.imgur.com/ZBkEN19.jpg

Libturds sniveling about money in politics, but who turned down government funding in the 2008 election? Hypocrites

[Lune]

Libturds sniveling about money in politics, but who turned down government funding in the 2008 election? Hypocrites

Seems like you missed the point. Trump is a master memer. Who needs to come up with substantive answers to questions or act cerebral when you can deploy:


MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA
Crooked Hillary
Lyin' Ted
Goofy Elizabeth Warren
Low energy Jeb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88&t=2s)
Lock her up
Drain the swamp
Build a wall


And people were susceptible to it. And that's sad. This election was won by the facile gut-decisions of the biggest group of dopes and pinheads in the developed world: the American electorate.

[AzzarTheGod]

Seems like you missed the point. Trump is a master memer. Who needs to come up with substantive answers to questions or act cerebral when you can deploy:


MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA
Crooked Hillary
Lyin' Ted
Goofy Elizabeth Warren
Low energy Jeb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88&t=2s)
Lock her up
Drain the swamp
Build a wall


And people were susceptible to it. And that's sad. This election was won by the facile gut-decisions of the biggest group of dopes and pinheads in the developed world: the American electorate.
he meme'd his way to the white house.

Jeb was cooked by meme-ready statements. Rinse repeat. Still talks in memes to this day and people love it. Both sides, the kek-electorate, and the regular white joes, both love it for different reasons...but its masterful only because the memes play to both sides. it was perfect. get the disenchanted vote from all sides.

also, his meme-delivery. you can't just type it out, you have to actually LISTEN to his rally (on Fox, or live) and listen to the first time he said it. The first time he says a meme is the best timing and delivery he can muster. ex. "We're gonna drain the swamp..." He says it apologetically and trails off.. the same way he says "very sad...."

its a master memer and its going to get him reelected again. people love memes, even if they have no idea what a meme is.

[Ahldagor]

So what's the GOP's position on this? They can't protect Congress forever.

[maskedmelon]

lamenting the efficacy of memes as a tool of social manipulation is like decrying the inequity of man's ability to stand while urinating. it's biology ^^

most people are dumb. most of the people who voted for Trump are dumb. most of the people who voted for she-Clinton are dumb. most of the people who voted for Obama are dumb. you'll never understand anything if you focus solely on the dumbs. they're always there and they don't change. the 350lb gun-humpin, bible-thumpin' white neckbeard in a trailer in alabama is no more likely to change his mind than the bubble-butt Benz-chasin pig-hatin single black mother of 8 in michigan.

don't expect either of them to invest more time in parsing political platitudes or ridiculous rhetoric than they do deciding whether or not they like tomatoes. it also wise though to refrain from assuming all who disagree with you necessarily exist oblivious to the world in the basket of dumbs. there are always intelligent people on both sides of an argument of scale and they are always a minority, but understanding them is critically important in discovery of truth. you can't both be right and you can't begin to unravel who really is if you've already decided. and even if you are right, you will be unable to dismantle opposing views if you do not understand them.

[Lune]

lamenting the efficacy of memes as a tool of social manipulation is like decrying the inequity of man's ability to stand while urinating. it's biology ^^

most people are dumb. most of the people who voted for Trump are dumb. most of the people who voted for she-Clinton are dumb. most of the people who voted for Obama are dumb. you'll never understand anything if you focus solely on the dumbs. they're always there and they don't change. the 350lb gun-humpin, bible-thumpin' white neckbeard in a trailer in alabama is no more likely to change his mind than the bubble-butt Benz-chasin pig-hatin single black mother of 8 in michigan.

don't expect either of them to invest more time in parsing political platitudes or ridiculous rhetoric than they do deciding whether or not they like tomatoes. it also wise though to refrain from assuming all who disagree with you necessarily exist oblivious to the world in the basket of dumbs. there are always intelligent people on both sides of an argument of scale and they are always a minority, but understanding them is critically important in discovery of truth. you can't both be right and you can't begin to unravel who really is if you've already decided. and even if you are right, you will be unable to dismantle opposing views if you do not understand them.

There are intelligent people who voted for Trump for one reason or another, to whom your point applies and I agree.

But those weren't the people who made the election go the way it did. It was populism at its worst, which I'm naive to even lament about. It's exactly what our system was designed to defend against. Here I am spending the last several years whining about money in politics, and what happens when someone finally wins an election without buying it? Donald Trump. No thanks, I get it now. I don't blame the elite, I blame the Americans who put them there. Totally unqualified to run a republic.

[maskedmelon]

There are intelligent people who voted for Trump for one reason or another, to whom your point applies and I agree.

But those weren't the people who made the election go the way it did. It was populism at its worst, which I'm naive to even lament about. It's exactly what our system was designed to defend against. Here I am spending the last several years whining about money in politics, and what happens when someone finally wins an election without buying it? Donald Trump. No thanks, I get it now. I don't blame the elite, I blame the Americans who put them there. Totally unqualified to run a republic.


i agree :c if not the first, a fundamental role of government ought be to guard men and their fellows against their own stupidity. i see two problems wth the American system:

1. adverse selection in the purchase of power by way of promises to the voter
2. the capacity of the government to deliver on those promises, validating them in the first place.

i see two possible solutions: a largely impotent government heavily restrained in its capacity, denying politicians their favored currency, or a much more authoritarian government with limited votership. i no longer believe education to be the indomitable bane i once considered it against this sort of thing. education teaches people things. it doesn't teach the to think.

democracy is rule by fools.

[Bones]

I didn't vote trump but I still blame Shillary. Bernie should have won and she robbed him. He was the only one who had a chance against Trump and she should have recognized this and stood aside for the sake of her party and country.

Before anybody even begins to bash me for this, I am aware Bernie was not a perfect candidate and had his flaws like constantly being bashed for being a "socialist". However, those flaws do not surmount to anything even close to the flaws Trump and Hillary possess. Trump won because the voters backing Bernie switched to Trump or simply did not vote at all after Hillary and her affiliates snubbed Bernie out. Her corruption simply was not an option for many of the democrats I know in person. Out of the 3 of them I wholeheartedly believe he was by far the best choice.
I'm sure there are better choices out there but they simply did not have a chance against the big dogs with the stupidity of the average voter these days who vote based off memes and talking points they see on mainstream media outlets. For example, I was a huge Ron Paul fan and I wrote his name in back in 2008 and 2012 because he was being snubbed out of being the nominee just like Bernie was this time. The corruption in the republican party back then that allowed someone like Bush to become president and John McCain to become nominee was just like the corruption that existed in the democratic party this time around.

But we are stuck with Trump for now so all we can do is work together and work with him to try and fix the problems this country faces. What we should not do is the shit the Hillary supporters are doing by refusing to acknowledge his presidency and trying to further divide the country (Example: Shia Lebeouf and many other liberal celebrities). I didn't vote for trump but every time I see a "He is not my president" I want to punch the idiot saying it in their incompetent face.

I would like to see Trey Gowdy or Jason Chaffetz run in 2020 or at least get appointed to a meaningful position like Attorney General. Trump talks about draining the swamp. Those are his guys yet neither were appointed to meaningful positions and are still part of the "do nothing" congress. I do thoroughly enjoy watching the two of them roast corrupt politicians, government employees, and cabinet leaders in congressional hearings though. It's a shame they can't actually drop the hammer on any of them.

[Pokesan]

I didn't vote trump but I still blame Shillary. Bernie should have won and she robbed him. He was the only one who had a chance against Trump and she should have recognized this and stood aside for the sake of her party and country.

Before anybody even begins to bash me for this, I am aware Bernie was not a perfect candidate and had his flaws like constantly being bashed for being a "socialist". However, those flaws do not surmount to anything even close to the flaws Trump and Hillary possess. Trump won because the voters backing Bernie switched to Trump or simply did not vote at all after Hillary and her affiliates snubbed Bernie out. Her corruption simply was not an option for many of the democrats I know in person. Out of the 3 of them I wholeheartedly believe he was by far the best choice.
I'm sure there are better choices out there but they simply did not have a chance against the big dogs with the stupidity of the average voter these days who vote based off memes and talking points they see on mainstream media outlets. For example, I was a huge Ron Paul fan and I wrote his name in back in 2008 and 2012 because he was being snubbed out of being the nominee just like Bernie was this time. The corruption in the republican party back then that allowed someone like Bush to become president and John McCain to become nominee was just like the corruption that existed in the democratic party this time around.

But we are stuck with Trump for now so all we can do is work together and work with him to try and fix the problems this country faces. What we should not do is the shit the Hillary supporters are doing by refusing to acknowledge his presidency and trying to further divide the country (Example: Shia Lebeouf and many other liberal celebrities). I didn't vote for trump but every time I see a "He is not my president" I want to punch the idiot saying it in their incompetent face.

I would like to see Trey Gowdy or Jason Chaffetz run in 2020 or at least get appointed to a meaningful position like Attorney General. Trump talks about draining the swamp. Those are his guys yet neither were appointed to meaningful positions and are still part of the "do nothing" congress. I do thoroughly enjoy watching the two of them roast corrupt politicians, government employees, and cabinet leaders in congressional hearings though. It's a shame they can't actually drop the hammer on any of them.

how do you reconcile supporting Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders?

[maskedmelon]

how do you reconcile supporting Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders?

lotta common ground actually:

1. senescence
2. snowflakes
3. canabinoids
4. isolationism
5. corrections

[Pokesan]

lotta common ground actually:

1. senescence
2. snowflakes
3. canabinoids
4. isolationism
5. corrections

dude fell for the "clintons corrupt?" concern troll so I'd say number 3 (BIGLY)

[Bones]

how do you reconcile supporting Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders?
dude fell for the "clintons corrupt?" concern troll so I'd say number 3 (BIGLY)

Lol you are one of the most 1-dimensional shitposters I've seen on these boards, and that's saying something. Your contributions to the discussion are noted.

[Bones]

lotta common ground actually:

1. senescence
2. snowflakes
3. canabinoids
4. isolationism
5. corrections

Or how about reduction of defense spending into the military industrial complex and other black budget programs and instead funneling some of that money into our infrastructure which is probably the most important thing they have in common. It's almost like people ignore the important policies and platforms candidates run on and only listen to mainstream media talking points... almost.

[Pokesan]

Lol you are one of the most 1-dimensional shitposters I've seen on these boards, and that's saying something. Your contributions to the discussion are noted.

wanna engage the argument instead of throwing insults?

sanders and paul are literal opposites

[Jarnauga]

So when will trump send the police to knock on germany's door to seize their belongings, i wonder

[Bones]

wanna engage the argument instead of throwing insults?

sanders and paul are literal opposites

Sure pal, but you didn't present an argument you posted 1-liners while pointing and laughing. I do not believe they are "literal opposites". They are from opposite sides of the isle and they differ on a lot of things. I vote based on who I think holds the interests of the American people as a whole above that of his own political party and campaign contributors. Unfortunately, Ron Paul didn't run this time around so he wasn't an option. And I don't believe a word Hillary says quite frankly and am confident she could care less about the American people as a whole and only seeks further her own agenda and that of her contributors. If you vote on your party lines every time just for the sake of doing so then there really is no argument to be had.

edit : I still don't know yet what to think of Trump, only time will tell.

[Pokesan]

your reading comprehension skills are poor. I asked how you reconcile supporting bernie sanders the socialist with supporting ron freemarket paul.

that's the argument. sorry you didn't get that. if you don't care about economics ok cool, but it's the defining issue of both candidates.

can i finally get an answer

[Bones]

Alright I guess the answer is that we disagree on what is the defining issue of both candidates.
I care very much about economics, but their economic policies are not why I liked the each of them.
It is the job of the executive branch to ENFORCE policy created by the legislative branch and protect its citizens from outside threats, not run the economy (government 101).
I think I made it clear why I supported each person see above posts.
But to further clarify, the thing they both had in common that I liked was that they both wanted to reign is the ridiculous amount of government waste and spending that goes into "defense" and the military industrial complex and put it to better use like the infrastructure and education and not trying to be the "world police" which just ends up damaging our ability to protect ourselves since we get caught meddling in everything and have constant backlash, something both Ron Paul and Sanders seemed to agree on at least from my perspective.

[Pokesan]

enforcing american global hegemony is more important than updoots

[Bones]

enforcing american global hegemony is more important than updoots

haha now im starting to like you

[maskedmelon]

Or how about reduction of defense spending into the military industrial complex and other black budget programs and instead funneling some of that money into our infrastructure which is probably the most important thing they have in common. It's almost like people ignore the important policies and platforms candidates run on and only listen to mainstream media talking points... almost.

that number 4 ^^ and I agree, it a big thing for a lot of people. i be all for it too, if US could have it own world instance. absent that though, I prefer American hegemony to Chinese or Russian hegemony, though Putin is super cool.

[Bones]

that number 4 ^^ and I agree, it a big thing for a lot of people. i be all for it too, if US could have it own world instance. absent that though, I prefer American hegemony to Chinese or Russian hegemony, though Putin is super cool.
Indeed. I just wish we could work as partners for the benefit of mankind instead of each nation trying to establish hegemony over the world and further their own agendas. I also agree Putin is a pretty cool dude, his interview about the allegations against Trump and the whole golden shower thing was awesome. Hopefully Trump can repair relations with Russia. The combined power and influence of the 2 nations could make some serious changes for the betterment of all.

[Lune]

I'll never understand the conservative admiration for Putin. Oh wait he's a populist manipulator just like Trump. Take your shirt off while smoking a cigar in a fighter jet and be cool in an interview and suddenly it's cool to assassinate political dissidents and conquer your neighbors.

Combined power and influence of the 2 nations?

Do you even realize Russia has a a poorly diversified economy the size of California or Italy? They're a mafia state that peddles gas to Europe. If they weren't pointing nukes at everyone nobody would give a fuck about them. What kind of idiot throws away an alliance with a country like Germany in favor of that.

[maskedmelon]

I'll never understand the conservative admiration for Putin.

Take your shirt off while smoking a cigar in a fighter jet

what not to understand here? i dunno about conservatives, but that cool to me (^^)

and be cool in an interview and suddenly it's cool to assassinate political dissidents and conquer your neighbors.

no, those things are decidedly not cool.

Combined power and influence of the 2 nations?

i not sure how this relates. you mean US and Russia?

Do you even realize Russia has a a poorly diversified economy the size of California or Italy? They're a mafia state that peddles gas to Europe.

i don't think Russia is cool. that's why I am opposed to Russian global hegemony.

If they weren't pointing nukes at everyone nobody would give a fuck about them.

Exactly ^^

What kind of idiot throws away an alliance with a country like Germany in favor of that.

a confident one



overall though, I think the conservative love affair with tump/putin is one of need/admiration. they want someone to lead and both Putin and Trump, in spite of all their faults, are powerful leaders. a leader can be and do many things, but at the end of the day all followers want is to be lead.

indecision and aimlessness is hell, especially when you're losing.

[maskedmelon]

I wanna add too on the note of assassinating dissidents and invading neighbors, those are again shows of strength, whether it right or wrong, and that is what conservatives admire. they don't like losing. they just have a hard time understanding the danger of embracing hat sort of behavior when the baton inevitably passes to someone else.

[maskedmelon]

"Powerful" leaders don't need to use force and the threat of violence from westboro types to keep their countries in line. They have people lining up to follow them and believing in them, and trusting them. The Nazi white trash fucking hicks don't follow or believe in Trump, they just scapegoat behind him because they are all cowards and none have any real leadership potential.

People are just fucking stupid as shit. Leadership doesn't factor into this.

Brainwashing, fear, cowardice, and patriarchal misogyny does though.

that a nice platitude maer, but I not so sure it of any consolation to the dead putin dissidents or neighbor states he's invaded. denying reality doesn't change it :c

[Bones]

I'll never understand the conservative admiration for Putin. Oh wait he's a populist manipulator just like Trump. Take your shirt off while smoking a cigar in a fighter jet and be cool in an interview and suddenly it's cool to assassinate political dissidents and conquer your neighbors.

Combined power and influence of the 2 nations?

Do you even realize Russia has a a poorly diversified economy the size of California or Italy? They're a mafia state that peddles gas to Europe. If they weren't pointing nukes at everyone nobody would give a fuck about them. What kind of idiot throws away an alliance with a country like Germany in favor of that.
Well I never saw the interview you are talking about with with the fighter jet, but whatever, I'm basing my opinions of the countless other interviews hes had where hes doing nothing but making a metric fuckton of sense.
Your view of things seems very simplistic to me and I'm confident its much more complex and complicated than that.
No countries economy has been in the most phenomenal shape the past decade, USA included. As far as the whole aiming nukes at everybody thing, are we really so different? Last time I checked we still have more nukes than anybody and the only one to ever use them on another country.
I don't see why we would have to "throw away" and alliance with Germany by repairing relations with Russia? China and Japan aren't exactly the best of friends either but we have been able to work with both for a long time with Japan being one of our strongest allies and China being one of our biggest business partners. I'm sure the same could be done in this situation.
anyways im done with this thread every political discussion ends the same way

[Pokesan]

you might say im fiscally conservative but socially liberal

for example I support bernie sanders when he says "Universal Healthcare"

but I also support ron paul when he says "let them die"

heh, try turning off the lamestream media, sheeple

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/4e5ApLM.jpg

Obama: You can be prez if you promise to golf a lot, I got to look good.
Trump: Sure, plz just make sure my island is private and my execution looks good.

damn trump packin dat ass n dat gut twerking on the golf course eerrrday

[Jarnauga]

Apparently Conservatives care a lot about gay people when it's brown people assassinating them, but who cares about them when they're hunted down by militias in russia. They care a lot about international laws when saddam invades koweit or when Kimmi jong launches rockets, but who cares if russia invades ukraine or georgia.. they were already russians anyway ! just like the balkan states.. Who cares that Assad is a baasist who used chemical weapons against his own people, just like saddam hussein used gas against kurds.. they're vladimir's allies, so they must be cool. i won't add the freedom of press since apparently conservatives already threw that out by electing a dumbass who whines "fake news" at every criticism thrown at him, thinks NATO is an american company and can't prove he's been wiretapped even though he has FBI, NSA and the most powerfull intelligence in the world at his command.

For a long time i actually defended americans against people who thought you were all dumbasses. You have great music, great writers, great movies.. (not talking about mcdonald's, who apparently is the pinnacle of american culture according to daywolf.. ). Now it's getting hard, holy shit the number of people who lost hope on y'all. And still, when i see the numbers of the women's march compared to the trump supporters march (https://i.redd.it/p03jy8pe1njy.jpg).. There is a light that never goes out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AkFELcJsME) ;)

[Patriam1066]

Jar, I hate Russia because they help Iran send their people to die in Syria. As for Ukraine, there is evidence that we have meddled there and have tried to align them towards NATO and the EU. Ever heard of finlandization? Russia fancies itself as an empire and doesn't like aggression on its borders

Again, I don't agree with Putin at all. I don't admire him. I do think we should try to understand people though. Russia, REGARDLESS of the current leader, would always act in Ukraine. Anything else would appear dickless to the Russian population since they've been doing it since Catherine the great

Since we're talking about brutal civil wars, who is right in Syria? Assad is a butcher but guess what, the minorities are on his side. I imagine if Christians and Kurds and alawis and Druze are aligned against ISIS and al qaeda, it's possible we're on the wrong team.

Point being, these analyses of right and wrong are very simplistic. And BTW, a lot of us didn't support invading Iraq since you brought up Saddam. The whole fucking point is to turn a page on globalism which has fucked 70-80% of the American population and probably only benefitted 1-3%

Final point. As much as I don't like Putin, I'm not dying to kill Russians. I'm not dying to save Ukrainians. I wouldn't vote then for someone else to die in my place. What kind of Faustian bargain is pissing off Putin? Have y'all heard of North Korea? China? We might need the Russians. In case you forgot, they were on our side in I and II and, if played correctly, might be in III (or at least if on our side could be used against china to stop them)

Seriously though, grand strategy wise Russia is nukes + hydrocarbons. Nothing to be gained by fighting them and everything to lose. That doesn't mean I'm OK with Georgia or Ukraine being dismembered! Just like in not OK with bahais being murdered in Iran or Jews occupying Palestine. Your mentality that I should care is stupid and naive bud. Our governments need to solve problems they can actually address, not constantly gin up support for the Sisyphean task of remaking the world in our image

PS: dude I live in Texas and literally 10% of the population max has any inclination to care about gay people. That really isn't an issue for anyone sane

[Nilstoniakrath]

Jar, I hate Russia because they help Iran send their people to die in Syria. As for Ukraine, there is evidence that we have meddled there and have tried to align them towards NATO and the EU. Ever heard of finlandization? Russia fancies itself as an empire and doesn't like aggression on its borders

Again, I don't agree with Putin at all. I don't admire him. I do think we should try to understand people though. Russia, REGARDLESS of the current leader, would always act in Ukraine. Anything else would appear dickless to the Russian population since they've been doing it since Catherine the great

Since we're talking about brutal civil wars, who is right in Syria? Assad is a butcher but guess what, the minorities are on his side. I imagine if Christians and Kurds and alawis and Druze are aligned against ISIS and al qaeda, it's possible we're on the wrong team.

Point being, these analyses of right and wrong are very simplistic. And BTW, a lot of us didn't support invading Iraq since you brought up Saddam. The whole fucking point is to turn a page on globalism which has fucked 70-80% of the American population and probably only benefitted 1-3%

Final point. As much as I don't like Putin, I'm not dying to kill Russians. I'm not dying to save Ukrainians. I wouldn't vote then for someone else to die in my place. What kind of Faustian bargain is pissing off Putin? Have y'all heard of North Korea? China? We might need the Russians. In case you forgot, they were on our side in I and II and, if played correctly, might be in III (or at least if on our side could be used against china to stop them)

Seriously though, grand strategy wise Russia is nukes + hydrocarbons. Nothing to be gained by fighting them and everything to lose. That doesn't mean I'm OK with Georgia or Ukraine being dismembered! Just like in not OK with bahais being murdered in Iran or Jews occupying Palestine. Your mentality that I should care is stupid and naive bud. Our governments need to solve problems they can actually address, not constantly gin up support for the Sisyphean task of remaking the world in our image

PS: dude I live in Texas and literally 10% of the population max has any inclination to care about gay people. That really isn't an issue for anyone sane

I love how Libturds are suddenly so concerned about Russia and their negative impact on the Ukraine, when Obama sat on his @$$ while Ukraine was butchered they didn't say squat

[AzzarTheGod]

I love how Libturds are suddenly so concerned about Russia and their negative impact on the Ukraine, when Obama sat on his @$$ while Ukraine was butchered they didn't say squat

LMAO Ukrainian rebels murderered passenger planes of people and 0BAMA STILL DIDNT CARE LOL

[maskedmelon]

speaking of honeybees, you know flowers talk to them? I learned that recently. flowers apparently let out certain electrical signals when they super fertile, kinda like a cat in heat or since they boy flowers, I guess it like pitching a tent in public and tweeting it or something. anyway, the honey bee find out and come take care of them. the neat part is, soon as the bee land on the flower, he change his signal so he not bothered by other bees until he ready again.

Then, the bee, he go back to his hive of course, covered head to toe (bees dont really have toes, but yeah) in the flower jizzum and he do a little dance for his bee buddies at the hive to tell them where the flower is if it still have pollens. his movements actually indicate the direction and approximate distance of the flower. of course once they in the rough area, the flower's signal guides them in the rest of the way.

[maskedmelon]

yeah, I was pretty blown away. it pretty neat ^^ they dying though :c if they all die then we gonna die too

[maskedmelon]

The very least we can do is appreciate them while we can and care. ;)

^^

[AzzarTheGod]

LMAO Ukrainian rebels murderered passenger planes of people and 0BAMA STILL DIDNT CARE LOL

lol passenger planes not involved in the conflict shot down.

atrocity so bad that the world including 0bama immediately looked away and never looked back.

now they want to get upset about crimea? 200+ normal people are dead lol

[Pokesan]

lol passenger planes not involved in the conflict shot down.

atrocity so bad that the world including 0bama immediately looked away and never looked back.

now they want to get upset about crimea? 200+ normal people are dead lol

i wish obama had nuked russia

[Lune]

Nobody who bitches about the Obama administration's actions with Ukraine or Syria has a better alternative to put forward, even with the benefit of hindsight. It's just easier to call Obama and liberals a retard than it is to substantively defend alt-right positions, which is why they do it so much. Can't admit that Obama had the sense not to fall into a trap in Syria like Bush and Iraq/Afghanistan.

And for all of Trump's rhetoric about how Obama's handling of ISIS/Syria was a debacle, his administration currently has an identical strategic policy toward Syria and ISIS. Where's the outrage, fucktards? I thought you wanted to find out if sand can glow in the dark? Why aren't we carpet bombing civilians already?

[AzzarTheGod]

Nobody who bitches about the Obama administration's actions with Ukraine or Syria has a better alternative to put forward, even with the benefit of hindsight. It's just easier to call Obama and liberals a retard than it is to substantively defend alt-right positions, which is why they do it so much. Can't admit that Obama had the sense not to fall into a trap in Syria like Bush and Iraq/Afghanistan.

And for all of Trump's rhetoric about how Obama's handling of ISIS/Syria was a debacle, his administration currently has an identical strategic policy toward Syria and ISIS. Where's the outrage, fucktards? I thought you wanted to find out if sand can glow in the dark? Why aren't we carpet bombing civilians already?

im just irritated about the sudden Russian outrage. The red tide is back, and its gay.

passenger planes were shot down without much said by the world. the sanctions sucked considering the murderers committed.

"This is my last election. I'll have more flexibility after" lol I didn't hear any outrage about that one? Get off trump's dick yall.

[AzzarTheGod]

fuck it imma drop bandz on it old school style im bigger than all yall

ITT people can't excuse 0bama's lack of stance on Russia and the passenger plane atrocities

got em

[maskedmelon]

i say good on Russia for reclaiming Crimea. it Russia, always was. what the problem?

[AzzarTheGod]

i say good on Russia for reclaiming Crimea. it Russia, always was. what the problem?

this is rhetoric i can respect, and subsequently, I will not drop bandz on it

[Pokesan]

i say good on Russia for reclaiming Crimea. it Russia, always was. what the problem?

NATO

[maskedmelon]

NATO

wasn't much of a problem was it?

[maskedmelon]

this is rhetoric i can respect, and subsequently, I will not drop bandz on it

*daps fist for first time*

[Pokesan]

wasn't much of a problem was it?

if ukraine had gone through with joining nato, and crimea happened, the potential to become a greasy shadow on the concrete would have been high.

it's a damn shame.

there's still hope though. lots of places used to be russia, lots of those places are in NATO now.

godbless

[maskedmelon]

if ukraine had gone through with joining nato, and crimea happened, the potential to become a greasy shadow on the concrete would have been high.

it's a damn shame.

there's still hope though. lots of places used to be russia, lots of those places are in NATO now.

godbless

yeah, it a shame Russia answered the call for regional powers to lead. who suggested that a good idea anyway? ^^ It pretty arrogant of NATO though to think nations might be better served by being absorbed into the senescent bubble of the impotent old world to the being ravaged by the virile badassery of Russia.