******Official politics thread ******

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/w54mw5w.jpg


Another intellectual checkmate brought you by yours truly.

[Throndor]

The American "Labour Party", primarily politically active automotive unionization, believes it's perfectly acceptable to have two sets of standards in how they pay their workers. Senior members are afforded lucrative salaries approximately 400% higher than their younger workforce. You want to complain about stagnation? Perhaps, start there.

[America]

https://i.imgur.com/w54mw5w.jpg


Another intellectual checkmate brought you by yours truly.

who is that? cute boy.

[Throndor]

Should we also mentioned that coupled with salary disparities of 400% that the long-term benefits of working under the same unions, for younger workers, comes nowhere near the pension obligations of up to 3%/salary/year-worked they over-promised their senior workforce? It's all fun and games to point the finger at private entrepreneurs, and government entities, but when the third-party responsible for ensuring YOUR interests are being looked after are only looking to secure their own retirement after a lifetime of "living in the now" it becomes a little more difficult to pinpoint the exact source of the tumult.

[Throndor]

I was too young to understand it at the time, but when my grandmother used to go into a rant about how her peers, and my parents, were banking their retirement off the backs of my generation and my children's she really wasn't kidding. Sage woman, grandma was. RIP. Love ya grams. Lung Cancer. Last conversation was me pleading with her to continue fighting. She told me she wasn't going to piss away the small estate she worked her whole life to build, and leave nothing for her children, fighting a fight that was inevitably going to end in death anyways. Aside from my uncle, a Truck and RV repair business owner, her other two children have already pissed away everything "living in the now", and will leave nothing to us besides debt.

[Wonkie]

private property is vampiric bud

[Throndor]

private property is vampiric bud
Yeah, it was so much better when it was public property, under the jurisdiction of the King, and the Church.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, it was so much better when it was public property, under the jurisdiction of the King, and the Church.

finally you say something interesting!

Democracy is bad sometimes

[Throndor]

How, exactly, did Lennin's rule differ from that of a king, again?

[Wonkie]

How, exactly, did Lennin's rule differ from that of a king, again?

he was elected

[Throndor]

And was a real election? Or more like a "in communist russia, volunteering chooses you" kinda thing. I mean, there the obvious "birthright" thing, but kingdoms didn't exactly go to first of kin in every situation. Aren't most of our "rulers" descended from royalty one way or another?

[Wonkie]

And was a real election? Or more like a "in communist russia, volunteering chooses you" kinda thing. I mean, there the obvious "birthright" thing, but kingdoms didn't exactly go to first of kin in every situation. Aren't most of our "rulers" descended from royalty one way or another?

he was elected by his constituents

[Throndor]

Its all conflationary. The point being, once you go Blanquiist in hopes of said leaders someday, hopefully, realizing the communist manifesto, the likelihood of said leaders ever benevolently divesting themselves of absolute power is near-zero. What you have, under a lenninist/blanquiist state is nearly identical to Feudalism, in all but name.

[Throndor]

Dont be so quick to hand away whatever semblance of freedom you have left. It's a lot harder to get it back than you could possibly think. How many times has democracy materialized out of an empire throughout known world history, again?

[ScaringChildren]

he was elected

if by "elected", you mean wage a violent revolution

[Wonkie]

if by "elected", you mean wage a violent revolution

after that

[ScaringChildren]

after that

He was the leader of the Bolsheviks.

He assumed power after he lead the revolution.

[Wonkie]

He was the leader of the Bolsheviks.

He assumed power after he lead the revolution.

he was also elected

[Throndor]

allow me to play devil's advocate and say that we agree Lennin came to power through a democratic process. How did he stay in power, despite his political opposition?

[Wonkie]

allow me to play devil's advocate and say that we agree Lennin came to power through a democratic process. How did he stay in power, despite his political opposition?

he died in office

[Throndor]

What transpired during the period known as "The Red Terror"?

[Wonkie]

What transpired during the period known as "The Red Terror"?

revenge for the white terror monarchists got what they had coming. can we not digress? let's talk about how cool democracy is

[Throndor]

what political leaning were those who were "suppressed" during The Red Terror? (bear with me, last question)

[Wonkie]

what political leaning were those who were "suppressed" during The Red Terror? (bear with me, last question)

the republicans(bolsheviks) repressed the monarchists(Tsarists)

i have to go soon could you use your machavellian brain to get to the point?

[America]

i think the piont is it was liberals doin bad things, which is an important fact .

[Throndor]

Incorrect!

"Opponents were suppressed in the Red Terror, a violent campaign administered by the state security services; tens of thousands were killed or interned in concentration camps. His administration defeated right and left-wing anti-Bolshevik armies in the Russian Civil War from 1917 to 1922 and oversaw the Polish–Soviet War of 1919–1921. "

In other words, just because you were a "liberal" you were not safe from extermination. He exterminated anyone and everyone who did not agree with him, wholeheartedly.

[Wonkie]

i'd like you to explain what you think is incorrect

[ScaringChildren]

i think the piont is it was liberals doin bad things, which is an important fact .

Communists are not liberals.

#pedantic

[Wonkie]

Communists are not liberals.

#pedantic

republicans can be socialists tho

[America]

serious question, why is it called "liber"alism if the whole point is to take "liber"ty away? me n my dad are having trouble figuring this

[ScaringChildren]

republicans can be socialists tho

Sure, why not

[ScaringChildren]

serious question, why is it called "liber"alism if the whole point is to take "liber"ty away? me n my dad are having trouble figuring this

There are negative and positive liberties.

[Throndor]

The presumption that he exterminated only the aristocratics spokes of power present at the time of the bolsheviks rise to power. He exterminated anyone that did not wholly support his particular flavor of communism; a practice which continued well into and throught Stalin's subsequent reign.

[Throndor]

Sure, why not

Exactly. Natzis were technically socialist as well.

[Patriam1066]

The presumption that he exterminated only the aristocratics spokes of power present at the time of the bolsheviks rise to power. He exterminated anyone that did not wholly support his particular flavor of communism; a practice which continued well into and throught Stalin's subsequent reign.

Get over the Russians. The Chinese are the real threat. I’ve never met an attractive Chinese woman. China delenda est

[Wonkie]

The presumption that he exterminated only the aristocratics spokes of power present at the time of the bolsheviks rise to power. He exterminated anyone that did not wholly support his particular flavor of communism; a practice which continued well into and throught Stalin's subsequent reign.

monarchists of all classes were exterminated. rightfully so!

[Throndor]

Hell, even the united states is technically socialist. The qualms of the left and the right are a matter of "purity" in the socialist approach. The left wants a more "pure" form of socialism, but history has taught us that diverging too far away from a more tempered stance on socialism leads to very bad places on both the left (communism) and the right (nazism)

[Throndor]

Granted, USA is, essentially, an amalgamation of socialism and capitalism because extemes in either direction both lead to the abolishment of private property.

[Throndor]

Trust me, nobody wants "pure" capitalism either.

[Throndor]

Correction, there are a very small number of people that would absolutely love laissez faire capitalism

[Throndor]

Laissez faire capitalism is virtually indistinguishable from blanquiism, except for the fact that there is no vague promises of eventually trickling that power back down to the proletariat at a future point in time where the "winner" determines we're finally "ready for it"

[Throndor]

Bernie's argument is that we are either AT, or VERY CLOSE to that conjuncture and he has some validity in that argument.

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/s1YIjwS.gif

[Throndor]

The question is, where do we go from here? It semms capitalism has not, yet, determined the "winner" but its very well on its way there. Those on the right who are not of the sub-group of racist alt-right believe that widening the scope of anti-trust regulation is in order, but they are also very concerned with rooting out the corruption within the DNC, GOP, and self-interested seniority of labor unions because any attempt to do so, within the current sociopolitical environment will not lead to an equittable solution because of the self-interests of those holding the power at this time. Its important to denote that NEITHER senator sanders, OR president Trump are democrat/republican. Senator Sanders is an independent. Trump for most of his professional career outside of politics flirted with both Democrats and Republicans alike. We saw how the DNCs corruption ousted Senator Sanders in the last presidential primaries. We saw how the GOP tried to do the same with Trump to make way for their preferred candidate, Jeb Bush. The GOP failed to oust Trump. You allowed the DNC to oust Senator Sanders.

[Throndor]

Now, in the aftermath of Trump absolutely disrupting the intended outcome of the last election, those in the running to become the "winner" of the biggest game of Monopoly weve ever seen are screaming, crying, thrashing and vehemently frothing at the mouth to get him out of office with a 24/7 news campaign designed to do so. Why do you think this is the case?

[Throndor]

If you haven't noticed, my message has been rather consistent throughout the past several days' dialogue. When referring to Senator Sanders I've went out of the way, several times, to include his formal title denoting the respect that he has earned and deserves. Likewise, when referring to President Trump, i've made attempts to afford him the same respects. I've used controversial verbiage, but using that verbiage was not done so for the sake of insult, rather as a catalyst to drive a deeper message.

[rollin5k]

peoples champ (https://twitter.com/The_Trump_Train/status/1067687857400229888?s=20)

[Throndor]

The Bush's, paul ryan, john mccain and several others on the right should be in that picture as well.

[Sonderbeast]

Rofl that photo

[Ahldagor]

So now Throndor has their autistic breakdown? Lol.

[mickmoranis]

My president post memes this is amazing how does anyone not love this hilarious world we live in now.

Vote Trump 2020 & 24

[Sonderbeast]

My president makes me embarrassed to be called American every day.

[feniin]

My president makes me embarrassed to be called American every day.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/0bIAXvE.jpg

[Irulan]

Pokesan hand?

[X]Free.
[X]Male.
[X]Hair.
[X]Kinda white.
[X]Radical.
[X]Hadcore.

I can smell the testosterone wafting from that book over here.

[Sonderbeast]

https://i.imgur.com/0bIAXvE.jpg

It's pretty obvious to anyone who has gone to college that that author didn't go to college.

[Irulan]

I was a lil bitch in college and not the female variety.

[Throndor]

And here i was wondering what i was going to get for the company christmas party's white elephant. Youre a fucking lifesaver bro! I bought 3 copies! The title of the book is.....Trigger Warning! Oh dear god!

[ScaringChildren]

monarchists of all classes were exterminated. rightfully so!

Including the kids! YAY!

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/0bIAXvE.jpg

Jake Rivers 2024

[ScaringChildren]

My president makes me embarrassed to be called American every day.

I'm actually proud that Americans had the balls to elect someone that wasn't a complete corporate, globalist, neo-liberal whore.

America is waking up.

You should be proud of that.

[Wonkie]

Including the kids! YAY!

The Whites started it!

[Irulan]

The Whites started it!

[X] #1 enemy of the white ethnostate

(((I dig it)))

P.s. if you're feeling autistic today, I'm being an ironic asspat.

[Throndor]

Where classes range from hatred for the white devil, advanced hatred for the white devil, AND....volleyball

[Wonkie]

The Whites were very bad people my friend

[America]

tell me moar

[Throndor]

Just for that, im going to buy another share of Phillip Morris!

[Irulan]

Upset people resist the steady and unrelenting march of Gene Roddenberryism. Getting a buncha ppl killed in a nerdwar while postponing the inevitable.

News at 11

(This is a troll, and also true, lol)

[Wonkie]

tell me moar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Russia)

[America]

russia is pretty fuked up. they worshiped anger (still do), melodrama, hysteria. basically the alcohol aesthetic to its logical conclusion. loss of cntrol and violent rage is encoded into their cultural DNA. it's high beauty to them, whether they grasp that fact semantically or not. dreadful. there is a reason they have been led by an autocrat for-*ever*.

i suggest getting woke on classical music it reveals a hell of a lot about these spheres of influence. some solid composers & conductors but it's all so cloyingly heavy a la Bruckner tbh. like shostakovich is pretty much the lightest weight it gets. and he's great, but...eh it's not Austrian. drunken snow monkey rapists lack the discipline to compete w structured German music. they're all about finding sublimity in the disintegration of the structure -- not in the structure's production of structured sublimity. this psychic encoding why Russian autocracy is a gay crushing machine, whereas Germanic autocracy is woke and uplifting by compare. btw Disney saw to it that American meat units are primarily programmed with german encodement, if your wondering.

russia was never a cultural capitol except maybe allegedly in their literature, which is so heavy and melodramatic that i've never reddit. pertty sure its like hemingway style endless gravitas exhaustion. yawn. but maybe someone whose actually edumacated wants to weigh in. i would love to be made a fool of.

anyway nords are better; clear soberer minds. the lightest-weight structuralism ever got, like silver spiderwebs. listen to the music. nielsen 5 sibelius 6. pettersson 7. look at their socialism. feel me.

[misterbonkers]

if the free market is so good how come the invisible hand isn't giving me a handy right now

checkmate capitalists

[Throndor]

And, just to offset my privelege, im gonna buy another 2 shares of NIO, a chinese company

[Irulan]

russia is pretty fuked up. they worshiped anger (still do), melodrama, hysteria. basically the alcohol aesthetic to its logical conclusion. loss of cntrol and violent rage is encoded into their cultural DNA. it's high beauty to them, whether they grasp that fact semantically or not. dreadful. there is a reason they have been led by an autocrat for-*ever*.

i suggest getting woke on classical music it reveals a hell of a lot about these spheres of influence. some solid composers & conductors but it's all so cloyingly heavy a la Bruckner tbh. like shostakovich is pretty much the lightest weight it gets. and he's great, but...eh it's not Austrian. drunken snow monkey rapists lack the discipline to compete w structured German music. they're all about finding sublimity in the disintegration in the structure -- not in the structure's production of structured sublimity. this is why Russian autocracy is a gay crushing machine, whereas Germanic autocracy is woke and uplifting by compare.

russia was never a cultural capitol except maybe allegedly in their literature, which is so heavy and melodramatic that i've never reddit. pertty sure its like hemingway style endless gravitas exhaustion. yawn. but maybe someone whose actually edumacated wants to weigh in. i would love to be made a fool of.

anyway nords are better; clear soberer minds. listen to the music. nielsen 5 sibelius 6. pettersson 7.

🧐🤯🤩😍😘

[Throndor]

Nothing good has ever come out of Russia. Except vodka.....and mail order brides.......and trumps inauguration

[mickmoranis]

russia is pretty fuked up. they worshiped anger (still do), melodrama, hysteria. basically the alcohol aesthetic to its logical conclusion. loss of cntrol and violent rage is encoded into their cultural DNA. it's high beauty to them, whether they grasp that fact semantically or not. dreadful. there is a reason they have been led by an autocrat for-*ever*.

i suggest getting woke on classical music it reveals a hell of a lot about these spheres of influence. some solid composers & conductors but it's all so cloyingly heavy a la Bruckner tbh. like shostakovich is pretty much the lightest weight it gets. and he's great, but...eh it's not Austrian. drunken snow monkey rapists lack the discipline to compete w structured German music. they're all about finding sublimity in the disintegration of the structure -- not in the structure's production of structured sublimity. this psychic encoding why Russian autocracy is a gay crushing machine, whereas Germanic autocracy is woke and uplifting by compare. btw Disney saw to it that American meat units are primarily programmed with german encodement, if your wondering.

russia was never a cultural capitol except maybe allegedly in their literature, which is so heavy and melodramatic that i've never reddit. pertty sure its like hemingway style endless gravitas exhaustion. yawn. but maybe someone whose actually edumacated wants to weigh in. i would love to be made a fool of.

anyway nords are better; clear soberer minds. the lightest-weight structuralism ever got, like silver spiderwebs. listen to the music. nielsen 5 sibelius 6. pettersson 7. look at their socialism. feel me.

ur like this goku but for russian history

https://twitter.com/ApexOliver/status/1064835843980967936

[ScaringChildren]

if the free market is so good how come the invisible hand isn't giving me a handy right now

checkmate capitalists

It's fingering your b hole

[Throndor]

It's fingering your b hole

Truth. I seen't it.

[ScaringChildren]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Russia)

"It began after the Bolsheviks seized power in November 1917..."

Mmmhmmm

[Wonkie]

"It began after the Bolsheviks seized power in November 1917..."

Mmmhmmm

and continued until the defeat of the White Army at the hands of the Red Army.

[ScaringChildren]

and continued until the defeat of the White Army at the hands of the Red Army.

But you said Whites started it, 'member?

I don't like Monarchs either but I wouldn't kill their children.

A 5 year old won't keep you from seizing power.

[Wonkie]

But you said Whites started it, 'member?

I don't like Monarchs either but I wouldn't kill their children.

A 5 year old won't keep you from seizing power.

history shows that leaving the possibility of a restoration makes future violence very likely

[Throndor]

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-15-crush-your-enemy-totally.html

[Throndor]

Conversely, http://48-laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2009/01/law-22-use-surrender-tactic-transform.html

[Throndor]

And http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-28-enter-action-with-boldness.html

[Throndor]

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-38-think-as-you-like-but-behave.html
And for the lefties that were stupid enough not to agree with Lenin completely ^^^

[Throndor]

and for trotsky's highminded idealism in the face of his adversary, Stalin....
http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2013/10/law-1-never-outshine-master.html

[Throndor]

Oh, wait, though. I thought it was all for the "greater good" of the proletariat. Are you suggesting it was just one sociopath grasping power? Yes, yes I am.

[Wonkie]

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-15-crush-your-enemy-totally.html

Conversely, http://48-laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2009/01/law-22-use-surrender-tactic-transform.html

And http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-28-enter-action-with-boldness.html

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-38-think-as-you-like-but-behave.html
And for the lefties that were stupid enough not to agree with Lenin completely ^^^

and for trotsky's highminded idealism in the face of his adversary, Stalin....
http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2013/10/law-1-never-outshine-master.html

didn't read

[America]

smartinating the lefty side
smartinating the peasants
smartinating all the cuckolds
throndoooo-oor
throndoooo-oor

[mickmoranis]

didn't read

I didnt but since you made them so ready and available and on the top of this page I read them all.

Thanks cuck! ;):p

[mickmoranis]

hey Janine, sorry about the cuck eyes thing.

[Throndor]

Thats what the leftist platform is all about. If we can control the language, and the rules of engagement, and what people are allowed to read, and see, then we can frame the discussion is such a way that only we (which is the rhetorical equivelent of "I") can win.

[Throndor]

I dont always drink coffee....but when i do, you can bet your sweet ass its a cafe americano.

I like my coffee like i like my women....without some other guys dick in it.

[Wonkie]

I dont always drink coffee....but when i do, you can bet your sweet ass its a cafe americano.

I like my coffee like i like my women....without some other guys dick in it.

lol wtf man

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/JASoKHF.png

[Throndor]

Furtive - Attempting to avoid notice or attention: typically because of guilt, or a belief that discovery would lead to trouble.

Disingenuous - not candid or sincere; typically by pretending one knows less about something than one really does.

What is persuasion? It's not actually the same as argument, it carries a much more sinister undertone, and seeks to avoid conflict altogether by convincing the target that there's no disagreement at all. It comes dressed in fine clothing saying, "We both like rainbows and unicorns, we both believe that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. These other things that we disagree on? we can speak of those things later, perhaps over a cup of tea. For now, let's just agree we're the same, you and I."

Obdurate - Mental resistance to the softening influences of persuasion.

Rest assured, the gaze remains firmly fixed on you, Commie. It doesn't matter how many marginalized others you swaddle yourself in. We're not even looking at the game of ball under the cup.

[Throndor]

For a party adamantly suggesting that the right is colluding with Russia, you sure do adopt quite a bit of Russian political and ideological beliefs.

[Irulan]

So does anyone think they can ever convince the other guy to chill out n be nicer ever? Just wondering.

[America]

i am really pretty today.

there was a boy at work who was clearly weirded out when i returned with boy clothes and boots a beard from living in the woods but saying im a girl now. he was distant and kind of combative. and called me "dude" cpl times in a way that felt agro.

he brought me a present today. for my hands. we had a warm convo where i made good jokes.

[Irulan]

i am really pretty today.

Metoo

😁😉😊😋☺😆🤗

[Irulan]

i am really pretty today.

there was a boy at work who was clearly weirded out when i returned with boy clothes and boots a beard from living in the woods but saying im a girl now. he was distant and kind of combative. and called me "dude" cpl times in a way that felt agro.

he brought me a present today. for my hands. we had a warm convo where i made good jokes.

That's sweet. Ppls brains luv beauty

[ScaringChildren]

I feel like the Israeli flag is a bit disingenuous n hyperbolic.

Israel is pretty serious about securing borders.

You're not woke on the Honduran Question?

https://i.imgur.com/cFchyax.png

[Throndor]

I feel like the Israeli flag is a bit disingenuous n hyperbolic.

Israel is pretty serious about securing borders.

Israel is pretty serious about securing ITS borders. Ftfy

[Throndor]

Very world war Z-esque. Wrote a 10page rhetorical analysis on the evolution of zombie myth, and its metaphorical relation to globalization. 100% A+ even though teach is a die-hard lefty.

[mickmoranis]

HAHAHAHAHAH OHHH SICK BURN SOCIALISTS

https://i.imgur.com/XllV44u.png

[Irulan]

You're not woke on the Honduran Question?

https://i.imgur.com/cFchyax.png

Yeah, pattern recognition fail. Good catch!

[Throndor]

Had to furtively posit it as an "irrational" fear of contracting the disease of an acute scarcity of resources, and correlate that to how globalized distribition is actually far worse toward environmentalism than localized production, but it worked. Lefties operate under the solipsistic belief that communism is going to center itself around "me" because they are simply incapable of seeing the world beyond themself, but i digress, must be nice to be retarded.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, pattern recognition fail. Good catch!

it's still a bastardized palestinian slogan or whatever

[Wonkie]

must be nice to be retarded.

[ScaringChildren]

it's still a bastardized palestinian slogan or whatever

Is it anti-Israel or anti-Palestine?

[Throndor]

Lets bring on globalized communism without borders. Cant wait to live at the halfway point between the US and somalia. Environmentalism goes hand in hand with freighting useless consumerist goods all around the globe

[misterbonkers]

must be nice to be retarded.

hey, you said something I can agree with, that's a start

why don't you fill me in on how nice it is to be you?

[Irulan]

I would like to be able to participate better in the means of power and production. It'd be nice if I could in person again without the endless bureaucracy be representative again.

[Wonkie]

Is it anti-Israel or anti-Palestine?

i think it's anti-israel, though that's ceding the argument, because I/P arguments are always dumb as hell

[Throndor]

hey, you said something I can agree with, that's a start

why don't you fill me in on how nice it is to be you?

Yeah, while youre struggling to put together a cogent thought, i already shit, flushed, and left the bathroom.

Without washing my hands, of course. In case you want to shake later.

[misterbonkers]

Yeah, while youre struggling to put together a cogent thought, i already shit, flushed, and left the bathroom.

better than your pants, that's progress!

[ScaringChildren]

i think it's anti-israel, though that's ceding the argument, because I/P arguments are always dumb as hell

How is it anti-Israel?

[Throndor]

Progress, for the sake of progress itself, must be encouraged.

[Wonkie]

How is it anti-Israel?

no.

[mickmoranis]

HAHAHAHAHAH OHHH SICK BURN SOCIALISTS

https://i.imgur.com/XllV44u.png

diversity is our strength amiright??

[Wonkie]

better than your pants, that's progress!

Progress, for the sake of progress itself, must be encouraged.

[ScaringChildren]

no.

Are you admitting defeat?

https://i.imgur.com/IrOvtou.jpg

[Wonkie]

Are you admitting defeat?

https://i.imgur.com/IrOvtou.jpg

no means no mr spacey

[Throndor]

Speaking of backwards progress, wasnt communism utterly proven to be an inferior system 30 years ago?

[Irulan]

Plz make sure of what is in the line of fire infront of AND behind your targets b4 firing at the seals.

[JurisDictum]

That thing is so cute. It almost makes you forget how they ruthlessly hunt down smaller sea live and feast on their raw flesh.

[Throndor]

I bet you it tastes delicious

[Throndor]

Whos protecting all the phytoplankton? We should exterminate the ruthless whales feasting upon those poor defenless microorganisms.

[Irulan]

Speaking of backwards progress, wasnt communism utterly proven to be an inferior system 30 years ago?

I don't think wonkie is a communist or arguing it's a superior system or that it's classicly relevant to today's world on a National scale.

I understand your fears about us trying to do what Venezuela or Cuba have done. I don't think I would endorse that level of systemic regulation of people's individual economic liberty.

I do want them to be safe and well educated and removed if necessary from the streets and put in a more structured environment until they can demonstrate an ability to self govern. But not everyone. Not automatically. And not based on some kinda arbitrary identity. But based on ability and sanity. There's gotta be some way to measure personal responsibility and stop people before drugs, suicide bombs, and mass shootings, or gang banging.

[ScaringChildren]

no means no mr spacey

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[Throndor]

Until such a time when the fuhrer benevolently restores our liberties. Lifetime appointment for the fuhrer.

[Throndor]

I don't think wonkie is a communist or arguing it's a superior system or that it's classicly relevant to today's world on a National scale.

I understand your fears about us trying to do what Venezuela or Cuba have done. I don't think I would endorse that level of systemic regulation of people's individual economic liberty.

I do want them to be safe and well educated and removed if necessary from the streets and put in a more structured environment until they can demonstrate an ability to self govern. But not everyone. Not automatically. And not based on some kinda arbitrary identity. But based on ability and sanity.


Btw, we already have that system in place. It currently houses our gang banging degenerate population. Bonuses include daily showers, and surprise sex.

[Irulan]

Btw, we already have that system in place. It currently houses our gang banging degenerate population. Bonuses include daily showers, and surprise sex.

Prison system sucks. Id voulentarily euthanize before entering. I don't want to go be abused and tortured because i am unfortunate and broken.

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[JurisDictum]

Speaking of backwards progress, wasnt communism utterly proven to be an inferior system 30 years ago?

Yes in certain sense.

The totalitarian style government that they have going on in a few places still has proven more repressive than traditional capitalist oligarchy that exist elsewhere (NATO allies). So East Germany (Communist) sucked more than West Germany (Capitalist). USSR sucked more than America. If we compare like countries Capitalist comes out ahead of Command Economy (called "Communist" by most people -- Marx would roll over in his grave).

However, China is the one great power that stuck with the traditional Communist style authoritarian government -- and is performing very well. Obviously, they ditched the command economy after all the Mao disasters (which weren't all his personal fault like the western narrative tells you). But they do what most successful countries are doing -- tempering capitalism to the needs of their population and long term goals.

America might fall behind "communist" China in GDP and global power in the long term. The Chinese fully expect this to be the case. And while they have a capitalist market economy -- the state transfers a great deal of that and has extensive involvement in the life of it's citizens.

So basically the command economy -- so far -- has been a failure. But, China's authoritarian political approach continues to show great promise as far as attaining global power and wealth goes. It's also worth noting countries like Venezuela (which also isn't a command economy) wouldn't be such a shit show if we weren't playing all kinds of diplomatic and military games with them as the world's current superpower.

[Throndor]

Wont hear much complaint from me aside from the rather wide berth theyve given the definition of rape in the past few years. I wouldnt mind if the government declared gang affiliation as the domestic terrorists they are, and proceeded to declare war on them and exterminate them as you would any other opposing army, but i digress the left paints them victims.

[Throndor]

Lets talk about gang afilliation by race, and the relationship that has with incarceration rates.

[Irulan]

Anyway, look wonkie i made a grievous mistake in mis-identifying the flag due to reflexive personal bias. It was unintentional prejudice. I was brought up making fun of the jews and thought that's what was happening because I saw blue + star.

[misterbonkers]

Lets talk about gang afilliation by race, and the relationship that has with incarceration rates.

sure, start with the aryan brotherhood

i'll wait

[Irulan]

Lets talk about gang afilliation by race, and the relationship that has with incarceration rates.

Im less upset minorities are incarcerated and more upset that basically prison is torture, not mercy, or a solution. It's especially profound to people like me. Dunno if you've seen pics of me, but prison may as well be an automatic death sentence. Less so for communities like blacks and white supremacists which are more supportive and resilient towards those who've managed to survive incarceration. Or can conform to the brutality neccessary to make it inside, once incarcerated.

[Throndor]

Yes in certain sense.

The totalitarian style government that they have going on in a few places still has proven more repressive than traditional capitalist oligarchy that exist elsewhere (NATO allies). So East Germany (Communist) sucked more than West Germany (Capitalist). USSR sucked more than America. If we compare like countries Capitalist comes out ahead of Command Economy (called "Communist" by most people -- Marx would roll over in his grave).

However, China is the one great power that stuck with the traditional Communist style authoritarian government -- and is performing very well. Obviously, they ditched the command economy after all the Mao disasters (which weren't all his personal fault like the western narrative tells you). But they do what most successful countries are doing -- tempering capitalism to the needs of their population and long term goals.

America might fall behind "communist" China in GDP and global power in the long term. The Chinese fully expect this to be the case. And while they have a capitalist market economy -- the state transfers a great deal of that and has extensive involvement in the life of it's citizens.

So basically the command economy -- so far -- has been a failure. But, China's authoritarian political approach continues to show great promise as far as attaining global power and wealth goes. It's also worth noting countries like Venezuela (which also isn't a command economy) wouldn't be such a shit show if we weren't playing all kinds of diplomatic and military games with them as the world's current superpower.

Thank you for the genuine response. Ive already voiced my agreement and compromise on this front. The new right is committed to flushing the corruption in our swamp, the ball is now in your court to start seriously draining the corruption from the quagmire on the left before any further discussions can be had.

[Throndor]

Do not allow the superdelegates to steal the nomination from you again. You have no problem turning violent and protesting any advance from the right. Turn that attention on the DNC in the next primary. We are watching.

[Wonkie]

Thank you for the genuine response. Ive already voiced my agreement and compromise on this front. The new right is committed to flushing the corruption in our swamp, the ball is now in your court to start seriously draining the corruption from the quagmire on the left before any further discussions can be had.

lol

[Throndor]

Are we supposed to take Hillary Clinton any more seriously than we took Jeb Bush? Trump is irrelevant. Let King Ecgbert of North Umbria have his ice cream.

[Irulan]

Jeb for Daddy 2020.

Though TBH I wish yall would nominate someone better than Trump Pence.

Gary Johnson run in yalls primariy?

Why do conservatives hate libertarians so much?

[Irulan]

Imagine a president named Gary tho. At the negotiating table with Putin. Or in the news cycle.

[Irulan]

Oh that's dumb.

Gary should have been on the Republican ticket.

Ya'll r retarded and mad. :p

[Throndor]

Libertarians can be a bit reckless when it comes to extremisms, since, at its core libertarianism is for laissez faire capitalism.

[Irulan]

Libertarians can be a bit reckless when it comes to extremisms, since, at its core libertarianism is for laissez faire capitalism.

I think that's better than communism and totalitarianism. Can't we just move the Overton window needle thing a little bit?

Till like both parties kinda get better at representing everyone? Not just a few snowflakes on each side?

[Throndor]

Im less upset minorities are incarcerated and more upset that basically prison is torture, not mercy, or a solution. It's especially profound to people like me. Dunno if you've seen pics of me, but prison may as well be an automatic death sentence. Less so for communities like blacks and white supremacists which are more supportive and resilient towards those who've managed to survive incarceration. Or can conform to the brutality neccessary to make it inside, once incarcerated.
Yeah, our current prison environment is not very conducive to rehabilitation. Violent, sociopathic criminals need to be quarantined, fuck the whole argument about THEM needing social interaction. Infractors should be working with psychotherapists to actually promote rehabilitation instead of feeding them to the wolves, so to speak. Go to prison for petty theft, come out a hardened criminal because of all the violence and gang politics you had to integrate to "survive". Its sad, really. With that said, if youre a member of ms13 didnt you have to kill a rando to get initiated? Fuck em.

[Irulan]

Yeah, our current prison environment is not very conducive to rehabilitation. Violent, sociopathic criminals need to be quarantined, fuck the whole argument about THEM needing social interaction. Infractors should be working with psychotherapists to actually promote rehabilitation instead of feeding them to the wolves, so to speak. Go to prison for petty theft, come out a hardened criminal because of all the violence and gang politics you had to integrate to "survive". Its sad, really. With that said, if youre a member of ms13 didnt you have to kill a rando to get initiated? Fuck em.

Ya. *high five's *

Ppl should be killed if they can't be rehabilitated either really. It's cruel to repeatedly punish someone out of shame for doing the right thing and destroying them.

[Throndor]

I think that's better than communism and totalitarianism. Can't we just move the Overton window needle thing a little bit?

Till like both parties kinda get better at representing everyone? Not just a few snowflakes on each side?
The nature of laissez faire capitalism inevitably results in one person/entity "winning". Its virtually indistinguishable from a system where one tyrant owns all, and rules all. It relies on the "benevolent nature" of the "winner" being charitable, and if anything has been proven in the past century, human nature is not inherently "benevolent". Its the same fallacy the useful idiots on the left buy in droves. An epic, tearjerking story, about the inherent good nature of mankind.

[Irulan]

The nature of laissez faire capitalism inevitably results in one person/entity "winning". Its virtually indistinguishable from a system where one tyrant owns all, and rules all. It relies on the "benevolent nature" of the "winner" being charitable, and if anything has been proven in the past century, human nature is not inherently "benevolent". Its the same fallacy the useful idiots on the left buy in droves. An epic, tearjerking story, about the inherent good nature of mankind.
I agree. I hope democracy would be able to survive it for 4-8 yrs though because of good checks and balances which would need to be re-addressed from a fresh perspective. After wards.

[Wonkie]

"--KREMLIN HAS NO OFFICIAL INFO ABOUT TRUMP'S CANCELING MEETING WITH PUTIN, HAVING SEEN ONLY HIS TWEET--"

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[Throndor]

Open Borders for Saudi Arabia!

[Throndor]

I agree. I hope democracy would be able to survive it for 4-8 yrs though because of good checks and balances which would need to be re-addressed from a fresh perspective. After wards.

The Left needs to show their committment to the system we founded and improved this country on, instead of using identitarian smokescreens to subvert it into an entirely different system before any real progress can be made.

[America]

for instance look at rich ppl, who are VERY unequal to naked babes (thats fuked up). if they gave me some of tgat money i would have a dope jacket with both form and function. instead im wearin this fly piece that dont rly keep me warm for shit. so , ergo, its the rich man whose blowin the cold wind up my back giving me eczema. and thats violence.

[Throndor]

for instance look at rich ppl, who are VERY unequal to naked babes (thats fuked up). if they gave me some of tgat money i would have a dope jacket with both form and function. instead im wearin this fly piece that dont rly keep me warm for shit. so , ergo, its the rich man whose blowin the cold wind up my back giving me eczema. and thats violence.
Just for that im buying ANOTHER share of NIO while its on the dip today. Hold my priveledge. Im going in!

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[Irulan]

for instance look at rich ppl, who are VERY unequal to naked babes (thats fuked up). if they gave me some of tgat money i would have a dope jacket with both form and function. instead im wearin this fly piece that dont rly keep me warm for shit. so , ergo, its the rich man whose blowin the cold wind up my back giving me eczema. and thats violence.

Get prettier.

Or fat.

U decide!

[Throndor]

Gotta love this new world we live in. Where true existential threats are so far removed from daily life that we can get into a fervored uproar over who or what kind of of objects/people are allowed to put what kind of objects/people into their orifices, as if its a matter of national importance.

[Throndor]

Arguing over the highest common denominator in a race to the bottom. Topsy turvy hysteria abound, with idiots resorting to violence over the slightest perceived provocation, real or imagined.

[AzzarTheGod]

no means no mr spacey

solid refs n licks hit

[Irulan]

Huh? Don't understand that. Not where I am at or relevant at the moment. Did I miss a news cycle?

[AzzarTheGod]

russia is pretty fuked up. they worshiped anger (still do), melodrama, hysteria. basically the alcohol aesthetic to its logical conclusion. loss of cntrol and violent rage is encoded into their cultural DNA. it's high beauty to them, whether they grasp that fact semantically or not. dreadful. there is a reason they have been led by an autocrat for-*ever*.

i suggest getting woke on classical music it reveals a hell of a lot about these spheres of influence. some solid composers & conductors but it's all so cloyingly heavy a la Bruckner tbh. like shostakovich is pretty much the lightest weight it gets. and he's great, but...eh it's not Austrian. drunken snow monkey rapists lack the discipline to compete w structured German music. they're all about finding sublimity in the disintegration of the structure -- not in the structure's production of structured sublimity. this psychic encoding why Russian autocracy is a gay crushing machine, whereas Germanic autocracy is woke and uplifting by compare. btw Disney saw to it that American meat units are primarily programmed with german encodement, if your wondering.

russia was never a cultural capitol except maybe allegedly in their literature, which is so heavy and melodramatic that i've never reddit. pertty sure its like hemingway style endless gravitas exhaustion. yawn. but maybe someone whose actually edumacated wants to weigh in. i would love to be made a fool of.

anyway nords are better; clear soberer minds. the lightest-weight structuralism ever got, like silver spiderwebs. listen to the music. nielsen 5 sibelius 6. pettersson 7. look at their socialism. feel me.


retro woke

[ScaringChildren]

This song goes out to all PC, SJW, libtards out there (https://youtu.be/F7DrpWrgAOA)

[Throndor]

No matters too small to lay before the altar of our federal corporate overlords.

[Wonkie]

UPDATE: Nov. 29, 2018, 5:38 p.m. Twitter is reportedly not pressing charges against Loomer. She is thus allowed to stay attached to the door as long as she pleases. Good luck!

[Throndor]

UPDATE: Nov. 29, 2018, 5:38 p.m. Twitter is reportedly not pressing charges against Loomer. She is thus allowed to stay attached to the door as long as she pleases. Good luck!

Case n point. She kinda cute though. Whos gonna go flirt with her?

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

When you're so desperate and angry that you claim your political opponents all have tiny cocks (https://youtu.be/GsWZbw2pgfk)

[Throndor]

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-senators-who-tried-kill-yemen-war-resolution-were-paid-saudi-1236715?amp=1

Time to vote these swamp things out.

[Wonkie]

When you're so desperate and angry that you claim your political opponents all have tiny cocks (https://youtu.be/GsWZbw2pgfk)

funny link :D

[Throndor]

When you're so desperate and angry that you claim your political opponents all have tiny cocks (https://youtu.be/GsWZbw2pgfk)
Lil dick, huh? Just for that, im a buy a share in Pfizer!

[Patriam1066]

Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are literary heavyweights. It shouldn’t be surprising that deeply Christian and spiritual men trapped in a wilderness of homosexual alcoholics would write great novels about life in general that sought to promote Russian culture in particular. They strove to elevate Russian culture among their contemporaries

In short, while I wholeheartedly agree that Russia is a shit hole (Kentucky on the rocks), is has literary credentials. I do agree that Hemingway sucks, however

[Ahldagor]

Our nada who art in nada hallowed be thy nada.

A Clean Well Lighted Place is Hemingway's best work.

"For sale: children's shoes. Never worn."

[Sonderbeast]

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-senators-who-tried-kill-yemen-war-resolution-were-paid-saudi-1236715?amp=1

Time to vote these swamp things out.

I thought that was why people voted for trump. hmm.

[Irulan]

I wish I could have been an alcoholic. But no. Instead I'm healthy. And my natural life expectancy will probably be long.

[Throndor]

I thought that was why people voted for trump. hmm.

Criticism of saudi arabias substantial support of Clinton was significant throughout the election.

[Throndor]

Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are literary heavyweights. It shouldn’t be surprising that deeply Christian and spiritual men trapped in a wilderness of homosexual alcoholics would write great novels about life in general that sought to promote Russian culture in particular. They strove to elevate Russian culture among their contemporaries

In short, while I wholeheartedly agree that Russia is a shit hole (Kentucky on the rocks), is has literary credentials. I do agree that Hemingway sucks, however
Dostoevsky and Tolstoy were both solid. Unfortunately, its a shame that collegiate literary classes, NOW, are riddled with the ramblings of unknown "jive-speak" authors and native american diatribes, since the only thing they give a shit about is forwarding the complainative nature of colonial criticism.

[Ahldagor]

Our nada who art in nada hallowed be thy nada.

A Clean Well Lighted Place is Hemingway's best work.

"For sale: children's shoes. Never worn."

My bad, "baby shoes."

[Ahldagor]

Criticism of saudi arabias substantial support of Clinton was significant throughout the election.

It's on both sides of the coin and Trump has already given support to the Saudis because they buy our weapons. FDR's set up is finally eating itself, but the Saudis have changed since then.

[Throndor]

I read everything after the "but" with a facetious sarcasm.

[ScaringChildren]

The EU is a tyrannical organization, prove me wrong. (https://twitter.com/HighToryClub/status/1068455217874771968)

[Throndor]

The EU is a tyrannical organization, prove me wrong. (https://twitter.com/HighToryClub/status/1068455217874771968)

Ho-lee shit! Theyre criminalizing the criticism of their government's plot to debstabilize europe. Is this what freedom looks like?

Basically, criminalizing the platform of their opponents, and any news organization that allows them to air such greivances. At what point do these cucks realize that there is no point in pressing the legal channels any further?

[ScaringChildren]

Ho-lee shit! Theyre criminalizing the criticism of their government's plot to debstabilize europe. Is this what freedom looks like?

Basically, criminalizing the platform of their opponents, and any news organization that allows them to air such greivances. At what point do these cucks realize that there is no point in pressing the legal channels any further?

It's insane.

I can't believe they're blatantly saying this.

[Throndor]

Sounds like its just about time for a european revolt. Time to make a new government with entirely different laws if their current government is going to use a myriad of laws to cement its rule and self-legitimize itself.

[Throndor]

It's insane.

I can't believe they're blatantly saying this.

What are the possibilities of running on a platform of "not these guys"? Since you cant, technically, voice your own platform in europe now?

[ScaringChildren]

What are the possibilities of running on a platform of "not these guys"? Since you cant, technically, voice your own platform in europe now?

I guess you have to resort to "dog whistles" (they already blame us for using them anyway).

However, anti-migration sentiment is growing and has become mainstream in Europe.

The fact that they would pull this shit now is asinine. Almost guarantees revolt if they actually heavily enforce their new laws.

[Throndor]

Btw, if youre going to invest in electric vehicles, tesla, nio, and the like;you should also invest in cobalt. Cobalt is required in the production of ev batteries, and is in very limited supply (mostly out of a relatively peaceful region of the congo)

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[Irulan]

I think the Saudis are more dangerous now than they where 50yrs ago.

[America]

ya but the real problem is the income inequality have u seen that stuff

[Irulan]

ya but the real problem is the income inequality have u seen that stuff

Im less worried about that right now and more worried about bein too fat to chop my dick off.

[Throndor]

ya but the real problem is the income inequality have u seen that stuff

Yeah, ive seen it firsthand. This is why im doing my part to combat income inequality by refusing to be a compulsive consumer, and buying up stocks that show promise in our future.

On top of my long term efforts to combat income inequality, ive also placed sizable investments in high dividend yielding stocks, to increase my direct income since its not an appropriate time to demand more income from my employer considering that the p&l statements show a marked decrease in year over year profitability of the company.

[Irulan]

Yeah, ive seen it firsthand. This is why im doing my part to combat income inequality by refusing to be a compulsive consumer, and buying up stocks that show promise in our future.

I believe you mean well. And for that thanks.

[America]

Im less worried about that right now and more worried about bein too fat to chop my dick off.

im going to nuke my forum account. this a 2010 account. i domt have infinity of those. if you get my drift.

[ScaringChildren]

worried about bein too fat to chop my dick off.

I have the perfect product for you that kills two birds with one stone.

https://i.imgur.com/S600jMh.jpg

[America]

^lol

[Throndor]

If these plebians are not understanding my position on the matter, i think it prudent to direct them to the second star on the right, and straight on til morning.

[Throndor]

I have the perfect product for you that kills two birds with one stone.

https://i.imgur.com/S600jMh.jpg

Gold.

[Irulan]

I have the perfect product for you that kills two birds with one stone.

https://i.imgur.com/S600jMh.jpg
Lold^
If these plebians are not understanding my position on the matter, i think it prudent to direct them to the second star on the right, and straight on til morning.
Really good saying.
im going to nuke my forum account. this a 2010 account. i domt have infinity of those. if you get my drift.
I don't. Im not as smart as I illusion:smart to be

[Throndor]

The beautiful part about buying equity in a company is that not only does it combat incone inequality it ALSO satisfies the compulsion to spend. Its like shopping for a car that looks hot, and never depreciates.

[America]

I don't. Im not as smart as I illusion:smart to be

im IMPLYING final departure or major stylistic change looms, but im not SAYing it, becayse we'll see

[Nexii]

The beautiful part about buying equity in a company is that not only does it combat incone inequality it ALSO satisfies the compulsion to spend. Its like shopping for a car that looks hot, and never depreciates.

Rich people can still invest a much higher % of their income than middle class. Everyone has a baseline of expense to just live (rent, food, clothing, medical, transportation).

Simply investing doesn't combat income equality. Though you can sorta ride on the lower class which can't afford to invest at all, you'll still be behind and the gap will continue to widen. Only wealth-based taxes as opposed to income-based really combat inequality

[Throndor]

Rich people can still invest a much higher % of their income than middle class. Everyone has a baseline of expense to just live (rent, food, clothing, medical, transportation).

Simply investing doesn't combat income equality. Though you can sorta ride on the lower class which can't afford to invest at all, you'll still be behind and the gap will continue to widen. Only wealth-based taxes as opposed to income-based really combat inequality

Cant afford to invest at all? There are a multitude of meaningful stocks, in markets aligned with leftist ideology, for less than 10$/share and recent breakthroughs in app technology has brought us robinhood, a brokers fee free trading app. And ive been poor. Its not a life sentance. It requires the resolve to leave neverland, commit yourself to something, and hone in on it (specializing) instead of staying in neverland disillusioning youself to the lack of apparent opportunity.

The reason why opportunity is often overlooked, is because it comes dressed in denim and overalls, and it looks alot like hard work. Fuck your life sentance of poverty ideology, the left is actively seeking to make that disillusioned fantasy a reality.

As for your last snipet, equity growth IS taxed at wealth-based levels. Youre literally arguing FOR my position. Thanks, i guess.

Not only that, the left actively seeks to exponentially increase the income-based tax of every tax bracket at or above the poverty line. So where exactly does this leave your position? We all get to be "rich" but we get taxed more for being rich, insomuch as to drive us back down into poverty, so that we can be "rich" on our 1040, but not in actuality?

[Nexii]

The best way to combat income inequality is to marry rich.

[America]

The best way to combat income inequality is to marry rich.

[Throndor]

That doesnt work for men. Men are still expected to make themselves in this world, but perhaps THAT is why you decided to hop fence to the other side.

Its part of the whole "men (as a vast group) are evolutionarily-dispensable" biological reality that we live in. Women have innate value for species in that they are, in finite quantities, able to progenate the species. Men, on the other hand, are not. One man is, surely, perhaps even several men, but definitely not all men.

[Nexii]

That doesnt work for men. Men are still expected to make themselves in this world, but perhaps THAT is why you decided to hop fence to the other side.

You could try being gay instead if transgender isn't your thing.

[America]

That doesnt work for men. Men are still expected to make themselves in this world, but perhaps THAT is why you decided to hop fence to the other side.

big part of why i jumped is because my preferred role is support. sort of. i will build my nidalee AD when i need to carry a team. but i'd rather play AP in support of a man. my strength is emotional/psychological, and pain tolerance, discipline, and moral support...and manipulation... - not grinding at laser-focus tasks, altho i can do that exceptionally too.

anyway, part of it was a practical consideration, yes. my strength is best leveraged presented in a beautiful, hairless package that smells nice. and the way I imagine touching the ceiling of the world is in exceptional loyal service to a good man, elevated to an art form. so yes i tranned partly because i (was) really really gay, and partly because im a " gold digger " (such a thing exists, but so do honorable discerning high-achieving wives).

fact is, i am worth more $$$ now than i was before. if you want to reduce this to the root. and i will take advantage of it.

i guess in the sense of my strengths & preferences i really was "born a woman", altho i feel this is said somewhat metaphorically. it is more accurate to say i am a cyborg who adjusted biochemical environment of my sweet bod to better match my character strengths. but i am also a woman. when my E goes high, i go crazy in same pattern of a woman on her cycle or preggers. to understand me you engage me the way u would a cis woman. an E-dominant brainbody.

anyway, fuck off with your jealous misogyny. i am a high achieving female and even if my mate's preferred income bracket makes me "hypergamous", and even if my net worth is negative, fact is i am an extremely valuable partner and object and with honest effort i deserve a solid male. i have no obligation to pursue low achievers and tards like you.

my sinking time and youth into a subpar male would be travesty. i know my worth. that said, i am *by far* not judging on net worth or income. what i am looking for is a male who bends to my willing him to tirelessly improving himself and his skill & stamina at fucking. i am not a consumptive pet. i am an assistant and personal trainer, and spy and geisha, and status item object for display. instead of being an angry impotent male. my transition is honorable as fuck and it's wonderful. i have a WAY better chance of buildingmy dad that retirement cabin (my dream goal).

[Throndor]

big part of why i jumped is because my preferred role is support. sort of. i will build my nidalee AD when i need to carry a team. but i'd rather play AP in support of a man. my strength is emotional/psychological, and pain tolerance, and moral support...and manipulation... - not grinding at laser-focus tasks.

anyway, part of it was a practical consideration, yes. my strength is best leveraged presented in a beautiful, hairless package that smells nice. and the way I imagine touching the ceiling of the world is in exceptional loyal service to a good man, elevated to an art form. so yes i tranned partly because i (was) really really gay, and partly because im a " gold digger " (such a thing exists, but so do honorable discerning high-achieving wives).

i guess in the sense of my strengths & preferences i really was "born a woman", altho i feel this is said somewhat metaphorically. it is more accurate to say i am a cyborg who adjusted biochemical environment of my sweet bod to better match my character strengths.
To thine own self, be true.

I believe the ancient egyptians first coined the term, in a much simpler manner with "know yourself".

[Irulan]

That doesnt work for men. Men are still expected to make themselves in this world, but perhaps THAT is why you decided to hop fence to the other side.

You're welcome to come over here at anytime. If you can even make the cut.

I agree though. There's sexism towards men. Especially around economy. Men do need to learn to be more independent and rely less on buying happiness thru a pet female as well. There's alot we can do. Certainly not just one solution.

Making things go back to the 1950s for men and women. Meh. Reducing and coping with sexism won't reduce poverty really much if at all. It'll maybe help society move forward though, minimize the abuse people suffer and help us tackle real problems like. Ahem. Healthcare. Which is already subsidized and socialized substantially health insurance and the hospital industrial complex.
One reason insurers pay so much for procedures n proscriptions is to keep the entire industry afloat otherwise hospitals wouldn't be able to keep the lights on.

A majority of patients in this country are defaulting on medical bills and not paying out. Or recieve care and die. Think of those COPDers whoer perpetually hospitalized on medicare then don't ever pay, then die.

Yeah. It's fucked up.

[Throndor]

Ive never heard of a contemporary politician that platforms on the revocation of women's rights won in first and second wave feminism. I mean, im sure they exist, ive just never had the opportunity to query one so far as to reveal that aim.

[Throndor]

Making things go back to the 1950s for men and women. Meh. Reducing and coping with sexism won't reduce poverty really much if at all. It'll maybe help society move forward though, minimize the abuse people suffer and help us tackle real problems like. Ahem. Healthcare. Which is already subsidized and socialized substantially health insurance and the hospital industrial complex.
One reason insurers pay so much for procedures n proscriptions is to keep the entire industry afloat otherwise hospitals wouldn't be able to keep the lights on.

A majority of patients in this country are defaulting on medical bills and not paying out. Or recieve care and die. Think of those COPDers whoer perpetually hospitalized on medicare then don't ever pay, then die.

Yeah. It's fucked up.
Its all copasetic to conjure wild hairbrained ideas on how we can socialize healthcare entirely, but on the personal level, healthcare challenges can be substantially reduced by proper diet and exercise. The averagr american is morbidly obese. The left likes to conflate this issue with mythical genetic theories regarding thyroid issues, and what not, but this wasnt always the case. Humanity wasn't always morbidly obese, so is the problem genetic?

Moreover, yes, SOME people have thyroid issues, but is this MOST? Or is this a case of normalizing the exception, and exceptionalizing the norm?

[Irulan]

Ive never heard of a contemporary politician that platforms on the revocation of women's rights won in first and second wave feminism. I mean, im sure they exist, ive just never had the opportunity to query one so far as to reveal that aim.

It's a goofy political stance you're right.

Ppl who'r wise though can just make sure their orgs are well managed n forward thinking. It's also ridiculous to campaign against.

It's like not something id put on the table at an interview for being boss but once hired id be sure to listen to peoples grievances even if only to reassure or refer them to the appropriate resources. And if necessary get involved on a case by case basis.

I don't like where Democrats took it. Beyond the issues of abortion access and regulation. Not thru government subsidy but so that it can't be fucked with in low class red state legislators and poor marginalized people can continue to access it at a local fair market value. This requires intelligent regulation though. Not bullshit religious liberty and civil rights crap which everyone ignores anyway.

Again. Poor people are a problem that needs to be dealt with. As it's becoming more dangerous and problematic in this country for upstanding responsible citizens to escape the growing hoardes of lowlifes.

[Throndor]

You can only lead the horse to water, though. You cannot force the horse to drink deeply, of the well. Therein lies the crux of the problem.

[Irulan]

You can only lead the horse to water, though. You cannot force the horse to drink deeply, of the well. Therein lies the crux of the problem.

Yeah and at somepoint the bureaucracy of filling that trough with clean water becomes too expensive. There's my libertarian bent.

[misterbonkers]

If you can even make the cut.

:mad:

[Throndor]

:mad:

Hahaha good old bonkers with the NPC frown.

[misterbonkers]

Hahaha good old bonkers with the NPC frown.

i'm mad i didn't get to make the joke first

[Irulan]

i'm mad i didn't get to make the joke first

Whew. I didn't want to hurt you!

[Irulan]

Its all copasetic to conjure wild hairbrained ideas on how we can socialize healthcare entirely, but on the personal level, healthcare challenges can be substantially reduced by proper diet and exercise. The averagr american is morbidly obese. The left likes to conflate this issue with mythical genetic theories regarding thyroid issues, and what not, but this wasnt always the case. Humanity wasn't always morbidly obese, so is the problem genetic?

Moreover, yes, SOME people have thyroid issues, but is this MOST? Or is this a case of normalizing the exception, and exceptionalizing the norm?

I agree. That's why I am not overweight. And why I eat healthy and exercise. Even though I am a hysteric mess.

I wish I could pay out of pocket for everything.

Itd be cheeper and I wouldn't have to worry about coverage.

Here's to hoping I can get good insurance like some of my friends have when that time comes.

[Throndor]

I agree. That's why I am not overweight. And why I eat healthy and exercise. Even though I am a hysteric mess.

I wish I could pay out of pocket for everything.

Itd be cheeper and I wouldn't have to worry about coverage.

Here's to hoping I can get good insurance like some of my friends have when that time comes.
That circles back to the existent unionization in the US. Are they going to continue the trend of only looking out for their own senior membership's retirement and healthcare packages? Or is some compromise going to occur?

[America]

bonkers is a PC. a very sentient catboy. he is nice to pet.

[Throndor]

The reality is, we're talking about a group of people that are highly influential in how the rest of the population is being paid, who have been receiving above-market wage for 25 to 35 years now, and they're still not ready for retirement. There are plenty of people who were being paid an at-market wage for the same period of time, who have already retired.

[Irulan]

That circles back to the existent unionization in the US. Are they going to continue the trend of only looking out for their own senior membership's retirement and healthcare packages? Or is some compromise going to occur?

I don't really know. It doesn't feel like it. This needs processing.

bonkers is a PC. a very sentient catboy. he is nice to pet.

I love him too :p

[Throndor]

"If you can even make the cut."

Ok, so what's the play, here? If I don't make the cut, do i kick scream, coerce, and grovel for the "cut" to be lowered to include me?

[Wonkie]

big part of why i jumped is because my preferred role is support. sort of. i will build my nidalee AD when i need to carry a team. but i'd rather play AP in support of a man. my strength is emotional/psychological, and pain tolerance, discipline, and moral support...and manipulation... - not grinding at laser-focus tasks, altho i can do that exceptionally too.

anyway, part of it was a practical consideration, yes. my strength is best leveraged presented in a beautiful, hairless package that smells nice. and the way I imagine touching the ceiling of the world is in exceptional loyal service to a good man, elevated to an art form. so yes i tranned partly because i (was) really really gay, and partly because im a " gold digger " (such a thing exists, but so do honorable discerning high-achieving wives).

fact is, i am worth more $$$ now than i was before. if you want to reduce this to the root. and i will take advantage of it.

i guess in the sense of my strengths & preferences i really was "born a woman", altho i feel this is said somewhat metaphorically. it is more accurate to say i am a cyborg who adjusted biochemical environment of my sweet bod to better match my character strengths. but i am also a woman. when my E goes high, i go crazy in same pattern of a woman on her cycle or preggers. to understand me you engage me the way u would a cis woman. an E-dominant brainbody.

anyway, fuck off with your jealous misogyny. i am a high achieving female and even if my mate's preferred income bracket makes me "hypergamous", and even if my net worth is negative, fact is i am an extremely valuable partner and object and with honest effort i deserve a solid male. i have no obligation to pursue low achievers and tards like you.

my sinking time and youth into a subpar male would be travesty. i know my worth. that said, i am *by far* not judging on net worth or income. what i am looking for is a male who bends to my willing him to tirelessly improving himself and his skill & stamina at fucking. i am not a consumptive pet. i am an assistant and personal trainer, and spy and geisha, and status item object for display. instead of being an angry impotent male. my transition is honorable as fuck and it's wonderful. i have a WAY better chance of buildingmy dad that retirement cabin (my dream goal).

commodify yourself and face to romance

[Throndor]

commodify yourself and face to romance

sounds very american to me

[Irulan]

"If you can even make the cut."

Ok, so what's the play, here? If I don't make the cut, do i kick scream, coerce, and grovel for the "cut" to be lowered to include me?

You kill yourself or resign your self to being a "man" or "male" who's just a faggot into kinks. But deserves all the homophobic crap and sexism dumped on nonpass men whoer effeminate and "weird".

If you really where able to relate. You wouldn't care about it. You'd just not give a fuck at all whether I was able to make the cut or afford whatever. You'd get the fuck outa my way and mind your own business.

Tbqh, I would fucking kick your ass IRL. I don't think you're powerful enough to take me down. I don't want to through. I have better things to do. I'd rather clean up my own messes than rely on your bullshit virtue or mercy or charity. I'll take out the trash when and how I damn well please. That includes myself.

Anyway. I made the cut. On my own. Because I am a badass. Because I did what I had to do. So yeah. On this topic, go put some mascara on and cry me a river you little bitch.

Too much?

[Irulan]

sounds very american to me

She's way more than a corporate prostitute. I'm not going to encourage her to over share. However, she has class and she's intelligent and capable of making her own way however she wants.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/lICl0lO.png

[Irulan]

Or. Just shoot them. With a friend. With a rifle. While they retardedly try to pistol whip two people with cover and #range.

Fuckin dumb nnnnnn erees

[Throndor]

You kill yourself or resign your self to being a "man" or "male" who's just a faggot into kinks. But deserves all the homophobic crap and sexism dumped on nonpass men whoer effeminate and "weird".

If you really where able to relate. You wouldn't care about it. You'd just not give a fuck at all whether I was able to make the cut or afford whatever. You'd get the fuck outa my way and mind your own business.

Tbqh, I would fucking kick your ass IRL. I don't think you're powerful enough to take me down. I don't want to through. I have better things to do. I'd rather clean up my own messes than rely on your bullshit virtue or mercy or charity. I'll take out the trash when and how I damn well please. That includes myself.

Anyway. I made the cut. On my own. Because I am a badass. Because I did what I had to do. So yeah. On this topic, go put some mascara on and cry me a river you little bitch.
It wasn't intended to be a sleight to you, moreso it was a facetious jab at the leftist tactic of bottom-up thought, really.

[Irulan]

It wasn't intended to be a sleight to you, moreso it was a facetious jab at the leftist tactic of bottom-up thought, really.



"If you can even make the cut."

Was originally said in the context of you jumping the fence.

Otherwise I agree with you. It's dumb to expect people to come and hand us our own freedom, life, liberty and happiness. Probably the most retarded thing in America right now.

[Wonkie]

She's way more than a corporate prostitute. I'm not going to encourage her to over share. However, she has class and she's intelligent and capable of making her own way however she wants.

y not?

[Irulan]

y not?

Because she doesn't need to and she's better off retaining her anonymity.

[ScaringChildren]

TO WONKIE:

Should be easy to explain why it's anti-Israeli though, yes?

https://i.imgur.com/xlfPi7c.jpg

[Irulan]

Also it's retarded people expect to be happy. Happy all the time. Expect life to be easy. Expect instant gratification. Expect everyone to love them.

Fuck em.

[Wonkie]

Because she doesn't need to and she's better off retaining her anonymity.

no the first part

[ScaringChildren]

Also it's retarded people expect to be happy. Happy all the time. Expect life to be easy. Expect instant gratification. Expect everyone to love them.

Fuck em.

If you were happy everyday, then "happy" will start to become "normal" and you'll get used to it that you'll then want to become "super happy".

[Throndor]

Or as I like to call it, Daffy!

[Irulan]

If you were happy everyday, then "happy" will start to become "normal" and you'll get used to it that you'll then want to become "super happy".

Hehehehe ;)

Fuck, dude, all I have ever known was bareknuckle survival. N I agree with u. But not the kind of bareknuckle survival indigent Hondurans face. I do know that what its like to live in the Bush.

Thank god I'm not some retarded fat kid who gets upset Mario bros is in America but not here.

But if I was. Id be training with the street rats.

[Irulan]

no the first part

There's more than one way to suck a dick OK.

[Wonkie]

There's more than one way to suck a dick OK.

could you add some extra steps?

[Irulan]

could you add some extra steps?

Yeah 😘

[rollin5k]

he's right, organizers need to be held accountable for this abuse/misuse of human beings (https://www.foxnews.com/world/tijuana-mayor-vows-to-stop-funding-migrant-caravan-not-going-to-break-public-services-to-solve-this-problem)

[Wonkie]

Yeah 😘

well it's your womanhood.

im just excited to see you:o