******Official politics thread ******

[Lune]

Either I fundamentally misunderstand the nature of basic income, which is entirely possible ^^;, or you are expressing cognitive dissonance. how is basic income not giving people money?

No I'm saying giving them free money alone isn't enough to lift them out of poverty.

i agree with this. i am wildly unambitious too ^^ how large a component of upbringing would you say wealth is? I mean out of all the things parents give you, how important is money. you make a very god analogy below about life as a marathon and money as a head start. I believe discipline, knowledge, goal setting and reason are infinitely more important than money. it is after all why trump and bush are passed up by buffet and jobs.

Wealth is a very large part. It meant living in a nice area, having other wealthy friends and the social regulation that goes with that, access to excellent schools and excellent education, and not having to sell my labor just to survive meant I could do whatever the fuck I wanted with my time, and at least some of it was self improvement. But like I said several times, the behavioral/genetic aspects were important too (nutrition, instilling value of hard work/education, reading before bed)

im sorry I didn't respond to that originally. I'm not sure why I didn't ^^ probably was thinking about it. The military really is a fantastic example of how to best extricate people from poverty though. It does exactly what I argue needs to be done. it is a very poor substantiation of the efficacy of basic income though because it is radically different and here's why I say that: those who join the military become property of the government and are retrained as if children to be functional citizens. It teaches people discipline and goal setting and respect and work ethic among other things. people don't walk out of the military and succeed because they've been given free room and board and schooling in exchange for promising to kill people. It's the lifestyle changes that the military compels, which allow people to succeed by effectively utilizing the other resources available to them there and beyond.

That's one way to look at it and I don't think it tells the whole story. If you've ever been around military you know for every squared away recruit who takes advantage of his opportunities, there is a schmuck who spends his ~$20k/year on dirt bikes, corvettes, and alimony, and spends his G.I bill taking 8 years worth of classes in criminal justice before dropping out to work at the wal mart. My point is, there are a lot of people spring-boarded out of poverty who otherwise wouldn't have been, and a lot of that is because you've been provided opportunity.

your comment on the rest of your siblings (similar to my own, though my parents are nowhere near wealthy despite having risen from significantly humbler beginnings). It speaks to the problem though and and that is, even if you are able to lift a man from poverty, train him to overcome his deficiencies, he still carries them and will generally be unable to effectively issue the necessary training to his children to overcome the innate deficiencies most of us face. Certainly his strengthened financial position will afford more opportunities for positive change, but the change is still left to chance. That is what I dislike about it. you are investing resources in conditions which may improve, but will certainly proliferate. it is a gamble and I see it as an unwise investment. I do not believe there are sufficient resources to elevate the billions who exist impoverished and the billions more who will spring from their loins.

My dad does not have behavioral deficiencies from growing up in poverty, nor did we inherit any. What we did inherit is various mental illnesses that run in my family. I was able to live with them, my two brothers weren't.

Even if you don't agree or understand why basic income fights poverty, it's worth it for no other reason than the other benefits:

1. When automation totally destroys the need for unskilled labor, it's going to save a lot of people from getting guillotined.

2. It gives unskilled labor greater bargaining power to avoid slave-wages, destroying business models that rely on pricing out competitors by exploiting slave labor.

how is climate science denial not nationalistic? I mean it is pursuing energy policy that does not hamstring the competitive ability of your nation, while foreign nations eituer hamstring themselves, or are more likely to suffer the consequences of your actions. don't forget that even the church of climate science acknowledges that while the world is warming, the United States is cooling and even within the US, those likely to suffer the most are those who would be displaced by automation anyway. Clinging to fossil fuels and denying climate science is simply exercising our competitive advantage at the expense of foreign entities. sounds pretty nationalistic to me.

Because

1. You're literally destroying the planet (and your nation), and if you can't see the negatives in that, you're morally bankrupt and there's no point explaining it in more detail.

2. Climate science denial typically goes hand-in-hand with opposing environmental regulations, which means polluting the fuck out of everything in ways that are very harmful to your health. This is really the issue for me, because we're probably too late to fix the climate anyway, and probably incapable as species, but this directly affects your life and the life of your children/loved ones in a direct and measurable way. You are hurting your fellow countrymen for the short term economic benefit of energy enterprises. Fundamentally my issue is with people who are willing to destroy or poison the environment for economic gain, so my issue is with 99% of people.

3. As a matter of principle, it's an inability to accept facts and evidence, which I sometimes wish could be a capital offense.

no, I've argued for material restrictions on the upper end, because it will not hinder genuinely superior conditions, while demoting inferior ones. restricting reproduction to average or superior conditions elevates the mean. qualifying reproduction does not necessitate it be based solely on material assets. to the contrary, there are a great many considerations that ought be included in condoning reproduction.

There are countless children of poor people who you may think shouldn't have been allowed to be born because of their parents' financial situation, but end up being far better people than you or I.

[bigjerry]

that's a hole lotta posts that were too long to read

[Lune]

that's a hole lotta posts that were too long to read

yea not gonna do long ones anymore for that discussion, too much fucking tedious work for no reason

[bigjerry]

13 more posts Lube then you can retire your account with honor

[maskedmelon]

yea not gonna do long ones anymore for that discussion, too much fucking tedious work for no reason

im sorry you feel that way. i think it has been productive since we have agreed on the very important, but basic premise that giving people money alone does not lift them out of poverty. ive not changed my position and I don't think you have changed yours either, but the discussion has helped reconcile our differing perspectives. we have succeeded at communicating ^^

the big difference between our arguments, is that I am unhappy with my conclusions and could continue the discussion indefinitely if it means there is a chance I could invalidate them, whereas you are very pleased with your conclusions and do not wish to see them invalidated. that's not a slight either, just an observation and it a reasonable position for you to take if you believe are right. my conclusions are bleak, uninspiring and depressing at face value. there is hope nestled in them to though, so it not all bad ^^

[mickmoranis]

What are you guys talking about these days?

[maskedmelon]

What are you guys talking about these days?

right now basic income, the nature of charity and moral obligation.

[Pokesan]

you've failed as an organism if you don't sire several sons

[maskedmelon]

No I'm saying giving them free money alone isn't enough to lift them out of poverty.

we agree again ^^ common ground!



Wealth is a very large part. It meant living in a nice area, having other wealthy friends and the social regulation that goes with that, access to excellent schools and excellent education, and not having to sell my labor just to survive meant I could do whatever the fuck I wanted with my time, and at least some of it was self improvement. But like I said several times, the behavioral/genetic aspects were important too (nutrition, instilling value of hard work/education, reading before bed)

fair enough, I not entirely sure how we reconcile this difference. I believe those things that you listed at the end of that paragraph are significantly more important than wealth in ensuring you contribute meaningfully to society.


That's one way to look at it and I don't think it tells the whole story. If you've ever been around military you know for every squared away recruit who takes advantage of his opportunities, there is a schmuck who spends his ~$20k/year on dirt bikes, corvettes, and alimony, and spends his G.I bill taking 8 years worth of classes in criminal justice before dropping out to work at the wal mart. My point is, there are a lot of people spring-boarded out of poverty who otherwise wouldn't have been, and a lot of that is because you've been provided opportunity.

exactly! ^^ we've already agreed that money alone will not lift people out of poverty, so what is left to account for difference? it could well be that a mix of money and retraining is necessary, or it could be that retraining is the solution. that aside, there are still those who are sufficiently deficient who not be helped by either.

My dad does not have behavioral deficiencies from growing up in poverty, nor did we inherit any. What we did inherit is various mental illnesses that run in my family. I was able to live with them, my two brothers weren't.

I didn't mean to imply that your dad had behavioral deficiencies and thank you for not being offended. I would presume though that hereditable mental illnesses contributed to your family's poverty before your father and while your father did not directly suffer them and was able to overcome his circumstances as a result, he still carried them and passed them on to you and your brothers. That's my point. I think the same thing goes for culture and other behavioral tendencies too, which you seem to agree with at least in part.

Even if you don't agree or understand why basic income fights poverty, it's worth it for no other reason than the other benefits:

1. When automation totally destroys the need for unskilled labor, it's going to save a lot of people from getting guillotined.

This is a good moral argument, but I see it as shortsighted because it only refers the problem. Unchecked, population of incapable individuals will continue to balloon and result in greatly increased future suffering when the bubble pops. That is why I feel compassion must be subservient to reason.

2. It gives unskilled labor greater bargaining power to avoid slave-wages, destroying business models that rely on pricing out competitors by exploiting slave labor.

This is an interesting argument and I see the merit in it, but I would expect higher labor costs to result in further automation. Is that unreasonable? why isn't that a concern?



Because

1. You're literally destroying the planet (and your nation), and if you can't see the negatives in that, you're morally bankrupt and there's no point explaining it in more detail.


i don't disagree that if you knowingly destroy the planet you are morally bankrupt, but I do not believe that nationalism and moral excelence go hand-in-hand.

2. Climate science denial typically goes hand-in-hand with opposing environmental regulations, which means polluting the fuck out of everything in ways that are very harmful to your health. This is really the issue for me, because we're probably too late to fix the climate anyway, and probably incapable as species, but this directly affects your life and the life of your children/loved ones in a direct and measurable way. You are hurting your fellow countrymen for the short term economic benefit of energy enterprises. Fundamentally my issue is with people who are willing to destroy or poison the environment for economic gain, so my issue is with 99% of people.

This is a good argument and one i am on board with. while I remain dubious of the idea that the statistical significance of 200 years of climate data and extrapolation of 50,000 from that can be reliably used to make any meaningful assertion about a system that we expect to be around 4,500,000,000 years old and basing those assertions and dozens of modeled outcomes which together cover a very broad spectrum of change, i agree that it is unwise to pump poisons into our air and water and food. It is also unwise to exploit the environment to such extent that we suffer massive losses in biodiversity. The problem of course with all this is people. There are too many of us and those who are least capable of enacting meaningful change are most prolific (third world).

3. As a matter of principle, it's an inability to accept facts and evidence, which I sometimes wish could be a capital offense.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Most people simply adopt the 'truths' fed gto them by their handlers and obfuscating dubious claims beneath the veil of science does not relieve them of their inherent witlessness. History is rife with false claims beneath the banner of science. skepticism is the canary in the coal mine^^

There are countless children of poor people who you may think shouldn't have been allowed to be born because of their parents' financial situation, but end up being far better people than you or I.

i don't think that children should not be born because of their parents' financial situations. They may well end up being better people than you or me. However, the suffering most will endure along with that of their descendants, far outweighs the utility that could be generated by the few who rise to the highest of heights. there are also rich and average children who should not be born. it is not a matter of wealth. it is a matter of competence.

i am superior to many people in a few ways and wildly inferior in most. I am quite confident that does not award me any sort of net superiority, or I'd be working on cloning myself and propagating my genes as much as possible. To the contrary, I consider myself defective. I like myself very much, but I am not ideal. i am far from it.

[bigjerry]

What are you guys talking about these days?

f@gg@t sh!t

[AzzarTheGod]

Boner couldn't do it and he was the fucking Lizard King. Don't see how you think that little twinky cuck Ryan could get it done.

this is true

[mickmoranis]

Are we still arguing about how to run a country with two ideologies fighting over it?

I wish there was a group in america I could join that ACTUALLY voted for state rights so I could fucking put up a wall between myself and other states.

[bigjerry]

Are we still arguing about how to run a country with two ideologies fighting over it?

I wish there was a group in america I could join that ACTUALLY voted for state rights so I could fucking put up a wall between myself and other states.

2 parties is 1 too many

[mickmoranis]

lmao 1 party is 1 too many bring on hellfire and doom Im ready.

[AzzarTheGod]

2 parties is too many

all u need is 1 major globalist bank

[bigjerry]

all u need is 1 major globalist bank

woke. fuck competition slaveholders believed in it

[maskedmelonpai]

what if we had moar parties and liek banned them from representing more than one issue each. then it force people to pick they most favorite delusion of all and then they hafta think liek, "i want creation in science class or less baby murdering?" or "i hate men or ham more?" it make a lot more diversity and get people thinking and hopefully talking too. i think it go long way to resolving difficult questions like, is anal more bad than oral? what the most fair price of things? how can we ban Muslims without seeming mean? what the right amount of guilt white people should feel for being theyselfs? did god make dinosaurs as test of faith or it a trick of the devil? how much money we need to invest in failure before it profitable? is edible window art a good idea?

[AzzarTheGod]

what if we had moar parties and liek banned them from representing more than one issue each. then it force people to pick they most favorite delusion of all and then they hafta think liek, "i want creation in science class or less baby murdering?" or "i hate men or ham more?" it make a lot more diversity and get people thinking and hopefully talking too. i think it go long way to resolving difficult questions like, is anal more bad than oral? what the most fair price of things? how can we ban Muslims without seeming mean? what the right amount of guilt white people should feel for being theyselfs? did god make dinosaurs as test of faith or it a trick of the devil? how much money we need to invest in failure before it profitable? is edible window art a good idea?

looks woke slated for later. lot of keyword phrases in this 1

[bigjerry]

if u want more diversity there's already D

[Lune]

http://i.imgur.com/EhlJyh5.jpg

every1 is the same

u r no different from anybuddy else

we should all get allong and issue unlimited H1B Visas <3

-Google

[bigjerry]

http://i.imgur.com/EhlJyh5.jpg

every1 is the same

u r no different from anybuddy else

we should all get allong and issue unlimited H1B Visas <3

-Google

fkn lool I literally just saw this and was finna post.

I love how google and gay are both on par with religions. at least the guy in the Nintendo Submissive shirt is a cute twinky mulatto instead of some bearded erudite wielding soul defiler

[bigjerry]

also note the only white males are disabled or old (only white-presenting able bodied male is an effeminate in a (((google))) shirt) and the white Christian girl is the only one sexualized w visible legs as the blackest character leans on her

[bigjerry]

oh and mad devil horns in the background lool

[Lune]

http://i.imgur.com/Cb9wx5w.jpg

Observe the two 'towering figures' that stand out prominently in the background, and notice that #4 is closer to them than #3. What are you telling us about 9/11, google? Notice that there is a background gap between the two towers, which divides the foreground into two groups: On our right, you have elements of Western society: Christianity, Science, Tolerance, while on the left are varying forms of ethnostate: Israel, the Islamic Caliphate, the racially homogeneous Asian societies, and Google.

Just what is Google doing on the left with the ethnostates, you're asking yourself right now? This is Google telling us they are trying to build a New World Order, a human ethnostate unified under a single global culture with the internet as a conduit for command and control. Bold move, Google.

[bigjerry]

if that were ur 1488th post i would rehabilitate your forum credentials right here and now

my observations were real talk though

[maskedmelonpai]

i think that the christian girl dad in the back with his hand on the black boy shoulder. he don't look happy, and why the muslim girl look like she have downs? and where the heck a asian?! they like half the world, why there no asian? and no, indians don't count, they like they own thing, like black white people.

[maskedmelonpai]

oh no, i see it now that not the christgirl dad, he the asian. that why he old.

[Lune]

i think that the christian girl dad in the back with his hand on the black boy shoulder. he don't look happy, and why the muslim girl look like she have downs? and where the heck a asian?! they like half the world, why there no asian? and no, indians don't count, they like they own thing, like black white people.

The Christian and Google are the only ones with their eyes closed and their heads nodded down in a submissive posture, blind and passive about their fate. Mr. Science has his eyes closed too but he's being guided (manipulated?) toward the Christian with that hand on his shoulder while blue shirt looks on expectedly, flanked by her two soldiers who exist at opposite ends of the spectrum but ultimately serve the same overlord

[maskedmelonpai]

The Christian and Google are the only ones with their eyes closed and their heads nodded down in a submissive posture, blind and passive about their fate. Mr. Science has his eyes closed too but he's being guided (manipulated?) toward the Christian with that hand on his shoulder while blue shirt looks on expectedly, flanked by her two soldiers who exist at opposite ends of the spectrum but ultimately serve the same overlord

ohhhhh, so china working for team blue, mobilizing they africa assets to infiltrate the church with science? or i not getting it still?

[Lune]

ohhhhh, so china working for team blue, mobilizing they africa assets to infiltrate the church with science? or i not getting it still?

china is in the wheelchair, cane guy is hispanic

[Nilstoniakrath]

That's an oxymoron.

I have trouble calling Tea Partiers nationalist if they are literally there for the sole purpose of destroying the federal government and providing kickbacks to corporations and people like the Koch brothers. I have trouble calling someone a patriot if they shut down the government and caused degradation of our credit rating, making it more expensive for the country to borrow money, sabotaging all of society for the sake of their narrow agenda. Creationists, climate science deniers, I could go on.

It does bring me pleasure though being reminded that the Republican majority isn't actually a majority because the party is so shattered and obstructive they can't even govern.

F the federal government and all those who kiss its @$$

[Nilstoniakrath]

http://i.imgur.com/Cb9wx5w.jpg

Observe the two 'towering figures' that stand out prominently in the background, and notice that #4 is closer to them than #3. What are you telling us about 9/11, google? Notice that there is a background gap between the two towers, which divides the foreground into two groups: On our right, you have elements of Western society: Christianity, Science, Tolerance, while on the left are varying forms of ethnostate: Israel, the Islamic Caliphate, the racially homogeneous Asian societies, and Google.

Just what is Google doing on the left with the ethnostates, you're asking yourself right now? This is Google telling us they are trying to build a New World Order, a human ethnostate unified under a single global culture with the internet as a conduit for command and control. Bold move, Google.

Google can kiss my black @$$ for all I care

[Lune]

F the federal government and all those who kiss its @$$

Google can kiss my black @$$ for all I care

http://i.imgur.com/hkpQqbm.png

[Daywolf]

A for Anarchist
B for Bureaucracy
C for Communist
D for Demoncrat
E for Executive order 66 (die jedi scum!)
F for Federal Reserve Bank
G for Globalist
H for Homeland Security
I for Internal Revenue Service
J for Justice Scalia's Pillow
K for Kissinger
L for Lobbyist
M for Martial law
N for NWO
O for 0bamacare
P for Petrodollar
Q for Quotas
R for RINO
S for Sandy Hook
T for Trilateral Commission
U for Useful Idiot
V for Vatican
W for World Trade Center
X for X-File (in House and Senate Rules Committees)
Y for Yeah why?
Z https://youtu.be/PgX5XUoeN3I

[Ahldagor]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-39428949

[bigjerry]

HAHA i'm crying in real life, ok im a good 7 days late i been busy but check it out:

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD463LL/A/thunderbolt-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter

https://i.imgur.com/jvAxH36.png
^THIS IS ALL ZOG NEEDS. AFTER HE GETS DONE HACKING YOUR FACTORY NEW IPHONE (https://wikileaks.org/vault7/?marble#Dark%20Matter). LOL

[maskedmelon]

A for Anarchist
B for Bureaucracy
C for Communist
D for Demoncrat
E for Executive order 66 (die jedi scum!)
F for Federal Reserve Bank
G for Globalist
H for Homeland Security
I for Internal Revenue Service
J for Justice Scalia's Pillow
K for Kissinger
L for Lobbyist
M for Martial law
N for NWO
O for 0bamacare
P for Petrodollar
Q for Quotas
R for RINO
S for Sandy Hook
T for Trilateral Commission
U for Useful Idiot
V for Vatican
W for World Trade Center
X for X-File (in House and Senate Rules Committees)
Y for Yeah why?
Z https://youtu.be/PgX5XUoeN3I

^^

[AzzarTheGod]

HAHA i'm crying in real life, ok im a good 7 days late i been busy but check it out:

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD463LL/A/thunderbolt-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter

https://i.imgur.com/jvAxH36.png
^THIS IS ALL ZOG NEEDS. AFTER HE GETS DONE HACKING YOUR FACTORY NEW IPHONE (https://wikileaks.org/vault7/?marble#Dark%20Matter). LOL

woke.

the deep state sucks. the FBI director can't even keep his web cam uncovered.

latest leaks confirm cyber attacks on cars, yikes

[AzzarTheGod]

They are stopping terrorism though so its all good right?

Too bad they have never actually stopped an attack on U.S. soil.

gr8 mandate tho, keep up the good work abusing power and data for special interests without having to answer to anyone. this is why JFK got pissed off because if you ask for an explanation all you get told is "national security sorry". Yeah I bet making millions of dollars in the intelligence racket is a matter of national security for yourself lol. Nice mansion these major CIA figures retire in.

[Ahldagor]

They are stopping terrorism though so its all good right?

Too bad they have never actually stopped an attack on U.S. soil.

gr8 mandate tho, keep up the good work abusing power and data for special interests without having to answer to anyone. this is why JFK got pissed off because if you ask for an explanation all you get told is "national security sorry". Yeah I bet making millions of dollars in the intelligence racket is a matter of national security for yourself lol. Nice mansion these major CIA figures retire in.

Libertines get the juiciest deets. Ever utilized rakes in Empire: Total War?

[AzzarTheGod]

Libertines get the juiciest deets. Ever utilized rakes in Empire: Total War?

You're going to tell me that nobody with access to data isn't going to use it to get an indicator of when a hedge fund is going to move?

Does nobody realize how tightly these CIA/NSA analysts should be watched? Its pathetic. I mean Edward fucking Snowden, a dropout loser who barely passed security "clearance" was able to access emails and their attachments, as well as cell phone pictures.

All these idiots have to do is monitor the communication of ANY hedge fund, throw a dart at a dartboard of hedgefunds, start listening to them 24/7. It will pay off. ANY fund. You buy in before they make the 200 million dollar move and before the hype machine rolls out. With wiretapping and Edward Snowden having unlimited access to email, the first thing these above-the-law creeps do is get some stock tips going I promise you that. Even if its just 20k here, 40k there pickups.

Again, why should anyone work an honest job if we aren't going to protect honest work? Religion doesn't exist, so you can't claim moral obligation. Peer praise? Slap on the back from another sucker? "hey good job loser, you're staying straight n narrow, 15 an hour" Not really a lot of motivation there, hence the high unemployment rate.

People are choosing to do nothing because the working man isn't getting any respect and fraud enforcement is at all-time lows. The FBI asked for additional money to fight credit fraud, they told congress they are not equipped to handle the new cyber crime rackets, and they didn't get a cent. That is another huge blow to the working class. There are multiple examples of the government not caring about protecting the respect of the working class.

A major part of national socialism is protecting the respect of the working man and making sure workers are taken care of with the loans they need without ZOG threatening to steal their house, and that nobody is cheating the system.

[Lune]

Libertines get the juiciest deets. Ever utilized rakes in Empire: Total War?

Fucking China always walking their Gentlemen to American universities to steal our knowledge of copper bottoms and fire by rank.

[Ahldagor]

Fucking China always walking their Gentlemen to American universities to steal our knowledge of copper bottoms and fire by rank.

It's terrible. Missionaries can help, but it's the lower the taxes for approval then incrimentally increase them every year move that solidifies your new, fellow countrymen.

[bigjerry]

i paly that gam to

[Ahldagor]

The trick is to know that there is no game.

[bigjerry]

The trick is to know that there is no game.

-The Matricks

[Ahldagor]

-The Matricks

No, see, right there, you lost the game.

[mickmoranis]

look, fat women are starting to realize that all those people they called Bernie bro's were Russian bots lmao fucking fat triggered ass bitches. Now they want Bernie supporters to take half the responsibility for their misunderstanding

"I lived in my world and they lived in theirs"

Uh stupid ass, YOUR WORLD was fake (just like the bernie supporters told you it was) and their world was reality.... They dont owe you an apology, fat asses.

http://shareblue.com/watching-the-hearings-i-learned-my-bernie-bro-harassers-may-have-been-russian-bots/

[AzzarTheGod]

fuck it imma drop the hammer on this thread soon

its garbage

[bigjerry]

fuck it imma drop the hammer on this thread soon

its garbage

yo peep this original content

https://i.imgur.com/qY9hhzV.png

[bigjerry]

he's 34 yrs old btw

[Lune]

You would be on OkCupid

Tinder too mainstream, plentyoffish and eharmony too ironic. Grindr not gay enough

[bigjerry]

grindr not gay enough, okc too gay

what a n@g to do? really tho im a born multiboxer

[mickmoranis]

POLL

Whats your favorite form of gay sex:

[Ahldagor]

American politics.

[bigjerry]

POLL

Whats your favorite form of gay sex:

the kind with the black

[maskedmelonpai]

yo peep this original content

https://i.imgur.com/qY9hhzV.png

Q: How important are lumber mills to you?

very important. i a lesser panda, i cute and like to live in trees, but i recognize the importance of lumber. it ok for people to craft many things from it, furniture moreso than houses and stuff. i do not believe in logging, but i like wood, a LOT.

[Pokesan]

don't poke the bear unless you wanna woke the bear

[maskedmelon]

look, fat women are starting to realize that all those people they called Bernie bro's were Russian bots lmao fucking fat triggered ass bitches. Now they want Bernie supporters to take half the responsibility for their misunderstanding

"I lived in my world and they lived in theirs"

Uh stupid ass, YOUR WORLD was fake (just like the bernie supporters told you it was) and their world was reality.... They dont owe you an apology, fat asses.

http://shareblue.com/watching-the-hearings-i-learned-my-bernie-bro-harassers-may-have-been-russian-bots/

there something missing from this post. it don't fit entirely with you post history and it make it less for me without that element :c

it still a good contribution though. thank you

[mickmoranis]

Every woman in this video has posted a video on social media about how we shouldn't call women girls.

I guarantee it. (https://vimeo.com/155155963)

[Ahldagor]

So have we all hit the point of despair for god-king, US president Trump?

[Nilstoniakrath]

So have we all hit the point of despair for god-king, US president Trump?

Y'all morons voted for Odumbass twice, wrote this POS country off then. I am enjoying the libturd freak out because of Trump, it really doesn't matter what actually happens any more, you all get what you deserve

[Pokesan]

Y'all morons voted for Odumbass twice, wrote this POS country off then. I am enjoying the libturd freak out because of Trump, it really doesn't matter what actually happens any more, you all get what you deserve

oh no a black guy was president better burn the world

[Ahldagor]

Y'all morons voted for Odumbass twice, wrote this POS country off then. I am enjoying the libturd freak out because of Trump, it really doesn't matter what actually happens any more, you all get what you deserve

Careful with that edge there. You may cut someone.

[maskedmelonpai]

oh no a black guy was president better burn the world

he only half-black

[Pokesan]

he only half-black

i thought we all agreed on the one drop rule

[Jarnauga]

Y'all morons voted for Odumbass twice, wrote this POS country off then. I am enjoying the libturd freak out because of Trump, it really doesn't matter what actually happens any more, you all get what you deserve

http://i.imgur.com/DcVlOBM.jpg

[bigjerry]

http://i.imgur.com/DcVlOBM.jpg

dog sitting in burning house w black dildo sitting on his table (REALLY BIG ONE). bearded, swarthy man in turban leering in at him w a sword in his hand and the blonde pigtails of the 11 yr old girl blowing him are visible thru the windowpane. dog speech box sez "im not a racist"

dot jaypeg

[Jarnauga]

dog sitting in burning house w black dildo sitting on his table (REALLY BIG ONE). bearded, swarthy man in turban leering in at him w a sword in his hand and the blonde pigtails of the 11 yr old girl blowing him are visible thru the windowpane. dog speech box sez "im not a racist"

dot jaypeg

Thank god trump got elected to stop all the raping that the 4 millions american muslims used to do daily thanks to obama amirite

[bigjerry]

wut does preventing migration of foreign muslims have 2 do w American muslims

eagerly awaiting youre reply

[Jarnauga]

wut does preventing migration of foreign muslims have 2 do w American muslims

eagerly awaiting youre reply

You're the one picturing some bearded guy in a turban getting a forced blowjob from an innocent blonde girl with pigtails :confused:

[bigjerry]

^literally thinks the moment u step into USA ur a USA national, posts confused emojis when ur outside that paradigm

your lobotomized my man

[Jarnauga]

^literally thinks the moment u step into USA ur a USA national, posts confused emojis when ur outside that paradigm

^ literally thinks all muslims are rapists

The moment you step into the USA you're not a US national, but you're expected to follow US laws which states that rape is not ok. How many foreign born, let alone muslims foreign born are condemned rapists compared to the ones born in the us ?

But don't forget, being us born doesn't even matter (http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/) to trumpettes ;)

[mickmoranis]

I used to think we were on the precipis of singularity but I know now that we are thousands of years away from that.

But, imgaine living in 2017 and thinking, "goverments wall outsiders up into goverment organized housing and treats them like prisoners and suddenly, they're raping, must be their religion."

Ok so yea, some muslims are good some are bad (though, the better they get the less they are intersted in their hokey religion, so yea fuck that gay religion in the butthole). But in the end, who cares. Its pretty easy to fucking figure out what happens when you prod a good or bad tiger in a cage... Soiler: it rapes you.

But I dont care we're thousands of years away from figuring that out.

My biggest concern is, are we so full of hubris that we're not going to start some kidna new civil global war and I cant shoot a bunch of people I dont like, legally? Cus that would be a god damn shame.

[Lune]

But don't forget, being us born doesn't even matter (http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/) to trumpettes ;)

I laughed my ass off, then I remembered the guy (https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/steve-bannon-435-1.jpg?w=435&h=580) ultimately responsible for this enterprise actually works in Trump's White House and wields hard power.

http://i.imgur.com/R3wD7oe.jpg

[maskedmelonpai]

anyone who rapes anyone should get a bullet in they gut, be denied medical treatment. it no matter what color they is of to which sky fairy they supplicate >.>

[Jarnauga]

Next gop candidate gonna be a flat earther

You heard it here first

[bigjerry]

^ literally thinks all muslims are rapists


dog sitting in burning house w black dildo sitting on his table (REALLY BIG ONE). bearded, swarthy man in turban leering in at him w a sword in his hand and the blonde pigtails of the 11 yr old girl blowing him are visible thru the windowpane. dog speech box sez "im not a racist"

dot jaypeg

[Jarnauga]

anyone who rapes anyone should get a bullet in they gut, be denied medical treatment. it no matter what color they is >.>

That's pretty close to shariah laws.. keep going ;)

[maskedmelonpai]

That's pretty close to shariah laws.. keep going ;)

yeah, except it penalize rape isntead of being raped or gay or having sex outside marriage.

are all those things the same as rape to you?

[Patriam1066]

That's pretty close to shariah laws.. keep going ;)

Tell us more about Islam

In reality, sharia requires 4 male witnesses for a rape allegation to even merit a trial. And with so many male judges across the Islamic world, how do you think things go even when someone can get a trial?

Turkey had a big controversy recently over child brides. The Islamic world is moving backwards dummy. Ataturk is dead and unfortunately so is your brain

Make Iran Zoroastrian Again!

[mickmoranis]

dont ignore me, people.

[mickmoranis]

All women are fat.

[Jarnauga]

yeah, except it penalize rape isntead of being raped or gay or having sex outside marriage.

are all those things the same as rape to you?

Of course not. My point was that you seem to share that harsh punishments are the solution to end all crime. Like somebody rapes ? Let's put him to death, he won't be able to rape anymore, problem solved.. which is basically the same thing as saying "someone stole, let's cut his hand he'll never steal again, SOLVED"

Can't remember who said to me here on this board that people getting the death penalty for a crime they didn't commit wasn't that bad.. it may be far fetched on my part, but yeah, i think that that kind of thinking is on the same kind of philosophy as shariah laws supporters (regardless of the religious bullshit)

Justice systems are complicated for a reason, oversimplifying stuff is just that: oversimplification

[bigjerry]

All women are fat.

not wrong. bio women have fat brains. gimme boipucci or death

[Jarnauga]

Tell us more about Islam

In reality, sharia requires 4 male witnesses for a rape allegation to even merit a trial. And with so many male judges across the Islamic world, how do you think things go even when someone can get a trial?

Turkey had a big controversy recently over child brides. The Islamic world is moving backwards dummy. Ataturk is dead and unfortunately so is your brain

Make Iran Zoroastrian Again!

Fuck erdogan, wish that he would have fallen during that coup

[Lune]

precipis

http://i.imgur.com/TZ2LuPp.gif

[maskedmelonpai]

Of course not. My point was that you seem to share that harsh punishments are the solution to end all crime.

no, my point is that rapists are garbage things. they not people and with billions of other people's on this wet rock, we don't need those things with us.

Like somebody rapes ? Let's put him to death, he won't be able to rape anymore, problem solved.. which is basically the same thing as saying "someone stole, let's cut his hand he'll never steal again, SOLVED"

you understand that by killing a rapist, you relieve society of problems? it a net good. he not rape anymore and there no cost beyond the bullet and transportation of his corpse to a desert for the vultures. if you cut off someone hand they gonna have a hard time functioning in society. they may not steal again, but they gonna be a burden to society and they gonna be miserable and very likely propagate they misery. the solution is to kill them too, or maybe do liek three strikes. first two chances, you repay you theft. Third one, we done with you, you not needed, you causing problems and unable to learn. we don't need you problems and we don't need you making more people who gonna cause more problems like you.

Can't remember who said to me here on this board that people getting the death penalty for a crime they didn't commit wasn't that bad.. it may be far fetched on my part, but yeah, i think that that kind of thinking is on the same kind of philosophy as shariah laws supporters (regardless of the religious bullshit)

nah killing innocent people bad, killing bad people ok. that make sense?

Justice systems are complicated for a reason, oversimplifying stuff is just that: oversimplification

yeah, but mass surveillance gonna fix that for us and we can move towards an efficient pruning of our society rather than caging people for having leaves.

[mickmoranis]

Thx for the quote Lune ^_^

So I'm thinking, if you pro any military intervention in the middle east, you would have been pro the genocide of the savage native american.

I am only saying this cus democrats are fat and they are anti Columbus day but pro killing savages with drones cus its "necessary" to them some how.

[Pokesan]

muslims AND trump can both be bad simultaneously

mind blowing shit

[Lune]

you understand that by killing a rapist, you relieve society of problems? it a net good. he not rape anymore and there no cost beyond the bullet and transportation of his corpse to a desert for the vultures. if you cut off someone hand they gonna have a hard time functioning in society. they may not steal again, but they gonna be a burden to society and they gonna be miserable and very likely propagate they misery. the solution is to kill them too, or maybe do liek three strikes. first two chances, you repay you theft. Third one, we done with you, you not needed, you causing problems and unable to learn. we don't need you problems and we don't need you making more people who gonna cause more problems like you.

The problem with summary execution (or any extreme form of punishment) is what happens if you're innocent and falsely convicted?

Now you add rape into the equation, where cases are extremely sensitive to manipulation and lack of clarity. It's a legal activity (sex) with illegal conditions (coercion), which often occurs between people who know each other and sometimes even within a relationship. We as a society already have trouble handling rape prosecutions, and then you add death sentences to the mix.

Retarded, lol.

[mickmoranis]

muslims AND trump can both be bad simultaneously

mind blowing shit

triggered who said I implied any of that was mutually exlusive?

Also savage native americans were bad and im glad we killed them all. Thats you kiddo

i hope you dont hate Columbus day

[Lune]

triggered who said I implied any of that was mutually exlusive?

Also savage native americans were bad and im glad we killed them all. Thats you kiddo

i hope you dont hate Columbus day

You know who is even worse? The savage Ottomans and their Berber lackeys who enslaved, raped, or murdered over a million Europeans in raids between 1500 and 1800. And we didn't even kill em!

[maskedmelonpai]

The problem with summary execution (or any extreme form of punishment) is what happens if you're innocent and falsely convicted?

i already said the solution: mass surveillance. if you know what everyone doing, this not a problem.

Now you add rape into the equation, where cases are extremely sensitive to manipulation and lack of clarity. It's a legal activity (sex) with illegal conditions (coercion), which often occurs between people who know each other and sometimes even within a relationship. We as a society already have trouble handling rape prosecutions, and then you add death sentences to the mix.

this a good point that'd I'd hoped be brought up. it mean you thinkin' ^^ That good. the solution is a very narrow definition of rape. just need to define the "event horizon" of sexual relations. i think that point is once you naked and actively engaging one another sexually assuming you both reached that point consenting (it'd be surveilled, so easy enough to verify). [/quote]

Retarded, lol.

you such a bright boy. it not nice to call names though :c

[mickmoranis]

You know who is even worse? The savage Ottomans and their Berber lackeys who enslaved, raped, or murdered over a million Europeans in raids between 1500 and 1800. And we didn't even kill em!

I wonder if my life is worse/better because of that or totally not affected thanks to the river of time making whatever way it wants to make no mater what humans do.

Evidence that the latter is reality:

Man invents starwars

Man destroys starwars

The universe fixes starwars

[Pokesan]

i already said the solution: mass surveillance. if you know what everyone doing, this not a problem.



this a good point that'd I'd hoped be brought up. it mean you thinkin' ^^ That good. the solution is a very narrow definition of rape. just need to define the "event horizon" of sexual relations. i think that point is once you naked and actively engaging one another sexually assuming you both reached that point consenting (it'd be surveilled, so easy enough to verify).



you such a bright boy. it not nice to call names though :c

but who watches the penis watchers?

[maskedmelonpai]

but who watches the penis watchers?

robots

[mickmoranis]

robots

we're about 2k years from this trust me. we got a lot of fun genocides ahead of ourselves before we can figure this one out :D

[bigjerry]

melon right long term. hopefully we can EMP b4 we get there, i will never play on irl blue server

[mickmoranis]

melon right long term. hopefully we can EMP b4 we get there, i will never play on irl blue server

wait... we all seen that casually explained mmo vs real life video (https://youtu.be/gWIi6Pytde8) right? its fucking hilarious.

[bigjerry]

i aint clickin that shit, n@gg@

[Jarnauga]

Assad is killing bad people using chemical warfare, that's pretty awesome amirite ?

Too bad he doesn't have nukes

just remember: they're all terrorists !

/s

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

[bigjerry]

Assad is killing bad people using chemical warfare, that's pretty awesome amirite ?

Too bad he doesn't have nukes

just remember: they're all terrorists !

/s

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

post is EXTRA weak when u consider not 1 person finna click except maybe our resident toot puffer

[Lune]

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

Hard to speak my mind here without getting put on an FBI watch list so I think it'll suffice to say God damn Trump is a seaword

His policy departs from Obama's in no significant way, but gotta scapegoat at every opportunity because an actual leader takes responsibility for his organization and that's not the way he does things.

[maskedmelonpai]

Assad is killing bad people using chemical warfare, that's pretty awesome amirite ?

yeah, it a net good. it may be more good to find a better way of killing them, but that may take more time, allowing them to perpetrator more they badness on the world = less good.

Too bad he doesn't have nukes

thing about nukes is they spill all over and have super long damage to resources. not sure it be good if he had nukes though, because then one bad just conquers other bad. we need them both to snuff theyselfs out ^^ right now we have bad guys fighting bad guys without any significant lasting damages to they environment and without any use of good guy resources. it a low maintenance solution even if it way less Jan ideal. we just need keep pumping arms into they all they hands.

Just remember: they're all terrorists !

/s

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

they not all terrorists, they just stuck in bad environment that constrained by undeveloped culture which hamstringed by they number one virulence, islam.

[mickmoranis]

Assad is killing bad people using chemical warfare, that's pretty awesome amirite ?

Too bad he doesn't have nukes

just remember: they're all terrorists !

/s

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

I blame cuck dems and cucks now that think they can stop trump when they couldnt stop obama

get cucked fat woman

[bigjerry]

same policies? ok. call me when trump personally creates isis

where that pic of his gayest opposition in the repub party chillin w/ isil members at

[Jarnauga]

same policies? ok. call me when trump personally creates isis

where that pic of his gayest opposition in the repub party chillin w/ isil members at

same policies? ok. call me when trump personally creates isis

call me when trump personally creates isis

personally creates isis

http://i.imgur.com/VbTj8AG.jpg

[Lune]

same policies? ok. call me when trump personally creates isis

where that pic of his gayest opposition in the repub party chillin w/ isil members at

http://i.imgur.com/bt5gJvr.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

You know who is even worse? The savage Ottomans and their Berber lackeys who enslaved, raped, or murdered over a million Europeans in raids between 1500 and 1800. And we didn't even kill em!

but the Golden Age of Islam let a jew live in peace and pursue higher education and participate in academia in the 13th century.

Ibn Rushd and Ibn Sina played a major role in saving the works of Aristotle, whose ideas came to dominate the non-religious thought of the Christian and Muslim worlds. Arabic philosophic literature was translated into Latin and Ladino, contributing to the development of modern European philosophy. During this period, non-Muslims were allowed to flourish relative to treatment of religious minorities in the Christian Byzantine Empire. The Jewish philosopher Moses Maimonides, who lived in Andalusia, is an example.

the good ol days of Al-Andalus and Andalusia. Back before the great panic attack of Islam. Spanish bullies r to blame for this

Andalusia sounded like a happening place. I want to chill with some gold skinned 6 foot 7 Berbers with 20 gold chains on. u down?

[Pokesan]

muslims don't have nukes

http://i.imgur.com/cIHyJ2T.png
http://i.imgur.com/PvJExnR.png
need my prayer warriors on this one

[bigjerry]

yaw not much discussion of the new NK media meta

provoke them before they got reliable deterrence other than regional, let them wipe Seoul, rebuild whole thing get rich off newly impoverished g@@ks hire every unemployed nerd doing construction for halliburton literally everybody wins. praise Trump

[Jarnauga]

yaw not much discussion of the new NK media meta

provoke them before they got reliable deterrence other than regional, let them wipe Seoul, rebuild whole thing get rich off newly impoverished g@@ks hire every unemployed nerd doing construction for halliburton literally everybody wins. praise Trump

"BUT WHY DO THEY HATE US I DON'T GET IT"

[bigjerry]

"BUT WHY DO THEY HATE US I DON'T GET IT"

not wit dat kasparov I keeps it 4d. need a quantum computer to outplay me

bars

[AzzarTheGod]

honestly dont care about NK

its all fake missiles and fake launches over the past few decades. its up there with the Russia thing for me. Its a prop piece to get the US involved in the region or sanction/increase hostility with China.

[Pokesan]

No balls to invade DPRK Trump. No balls motherfucker. OBAMA couldn't do it so I know damn well YOU can't do it.










no balls little hand man!

[Patriam1066]

Assad is killing bad people using chemical warfare, that's pretty awesome amirite ?

Too bad he doesn't have nukes

just remember: they're all terrorists !

/s

PS: lol (http://abcnews.go.com/International/suspected-chemical-attack-kills-58-syrian-town/story?id=46567048)

Buddy you realize Russia is there now right? You want America to go to war with Russia over Syria? This is 100% obamas fault. He was the one who had to stop Assad if you were so inclined. S-400 and sukhois kinda limit our options with regard to the Assad regime now....

Same applies to TRUMP with North Korea. God help us all

Hey Dennis Rodman save us my nig

[AzzarTheGod]

i just cant see myself going through my entire life hearing about this launch and that launch.

i guess some of you missed the other 100 launches. but i am just choosing not to live my life around whether NK is throwing another boulder into the water and how much money we should withhold from them through China.

some of you are spending chapters of your life looking at Yahoo news and other news feed clippings of launch press releases from NK. youve been starring at launch headlines for 30 years.

reflect on that.

[Patriam1066]

No balls to invade DPRK Trump. No balls motherfucker. OBAMA couldn't do it so I know damn well YOU can't do it.










no balls little hand man!

Dennis Rodman 2020

[Jarnauga]

Buddy you realize Russia is there now right? You want America to go to war with Russia over Syria? This is 100% obamas fault. He was the one who had to stop Assad if you were so inclined. S-400 and sukhois kinda limit our options with regard to the Assad regime now....

Same applies to TRUMP with North Korea. God help us all

Hey Dennis Rodman save us my nig


Yep yep, americans only go to war on 3rd world country when they can dump bombs from 10,000 feets on people fighting with sticks and stones, so they can proudly bump their chest in their star spangled shirts, clap their hands and gloat on how they're the greatest ever.

Thanks for clarifying that out. Did your balls fall off in the voting booth voting for trump, or did you cut them off yourself when putin started frowning upon you ..?

[bigjerry]

Yep yep, americans only go to war on 3rd world country when they can dump bombs from 10,000 feets on people fighting with sticks and stones, so they can proudly bump their chest in their star spangled shirts, clap their hands and gloat on how they're the greatest ever.

Thanks for clarifying that out. Did your balls fall off in the voting booth voting for trump, or did you cut them off yourself when putin started frowning upon you ..?

damn look at this inferiority complex

lil french f@g

[Lune]

Yep yep, americans only go to war on 3rd world country when they can dump bombs from 10,000 feets on people fighting with sticks and stones, so they can proudly bump their chest in their star spangled shirts, clap their hands and gloat on how they're the greatest ever.

Thanks for clarifying that out. Did your balls fall off in the voting booth voting for trump, or did you cut them off yourself when putin started frowning upon you ..?

Hey man take it easy, we dicked around against a token Nazi garrison on the Western front for you guys while the Soviets defeated Hitler. You could be more grateful.

To be fair, Americans have never had to fight fair against worthy opponents, literally not a single war in our history to be proud of once you know enough about it, so it's not like we ever got the chance to learn.

[mickmoranis]

damn look at this inferiority complex

lil french f@g

that little cuck thinks hes a big man cus hes "taking on russia" on facebook.

[mickmoranis]

Hey man take it easy, we dicked around against a token Nazi garrison on the Western front for you guys while the Soviets defeated Hitler. You could be more grateful.

To be fair, Americans have never had to fight fair against worthy opponents, literally not a single war in our history to be proud of once you know enough about it, so it's not like we ever got the chance to learn.

Could you list a war that one should be proud of?

[Lune]

Could you list a war that one should be proud of?

I'm talking in terms of doing a good job fighting it, obviously not like being proud of people dying n shit

[entruil]

from the liberty report





One of the most amazing things about US foreign policy is how so many American remain mired in the interventionist paradigm. Case in point: the Middle East. No matter how much a failure US interventionism has been in that part of the world, people simply cannot bring themselves to break out of the interventionist box. They remain convinced that the United States has no choice but to remain mired in the ongoing failure, death, and destruction in that part of the world. And they keep hoping that maybe — just maybe — it will all work out over the long term.

Thus, it is very refreshing to me whenever I find others who recognize that there is really just one right course of action for the United States to take: pull out all troops and bring them home. That’s the message of an excellent op-ed in the Boston Globe today by Jeffrey D. Sachs, who teaches at Columbia University and who will be one of the speakers at FFF’s upcoming June 3 conference “The National Security State and JFK.”

The title of Sachs’s article says it all, clearly, succinctly, and directly: “US Military Should Get Out of the Middle East.” That is the only realistic, practical, and moral course of action, especially after several decades of failure, death, and destruction. I highly recommend that everyone read Sachs’s article and share it with friends.

Why can’t some people see a full pull-out from the Middle East is the only right course of action for the United States to take? Why can’t they finally bring themselves to break out of the interventionist box? Why can’t they see that no matter what the Pentagon and the CIA do in the Middle East, it’s only going to make the situation worse?

Consider the fact that the US military and the CIA, two of the principal components of the national-security establishment, have been intervening directly in the Middle East for more than half-a-century. Everyone knows how those 50 plus years of intervention have turned out — failure, death, destruction, taxes, debt, and loss of liberty and privacy for the American people.

Why would any rational person think another 10-50 years of more intervention are going to produce different results?

In 1953, US officials engineered a coup that ousted the democratically elected prime minister of Iran and installed, trained, and supported a tyrant successor. How has that worked out?

During the 1980s, US officials partnered with and supported Saddam Hussein in his war on Iran. How has that worked out?

During the 1990s, US officials turned on their partner Saddam and initiated an undeclared war against Iraq, during which they intentionally bombed Iraq’s water and sewage facilities, knowing full well that that would help spread infectious illnesses among the populace. How did that work out?

The Persian Gulf War was followed by 11 years of brutal sanctions, which, among other things, prevented Iraq’s water and sewage treatment plants from being repaired. When the official spokesman for the United States, US Ambassador to the UN Madeleine Albright, told Sixty Minutes that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children from the sanctions were “worth it,” she was expressing the sentiment of other US officials. How did that work out?

In 2003, the U.S invaded Iraq in order to achieve the regime change that the sanctions had failed to achieve after 11 years of death and destruction, especially among Iraqi children. The US invasion and occupation threw the entire country into even more chaos and disorder. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Iraqis encountered a perpetual hellhole of death, injury, maiming, torture, abuse, incarceration, destruction, or exile. How has that worked out?

Look at Mosul, Iraq, today. Has anyone forgotten the prominent role that city played in the death and destruction resulting from the US invasion and occupation of Iraq? Notwithstanding the glorious appellation “Operation Iraqi Freedom” that characterized the US occupation, today Mosul is nothing more than a hellhole of death and destruction, where multitudes are dying on a daily basis, some at the hands of US officials who continue to drop bombs and fire missiles into the city in the process of destroying ISIS, the entity that the US invasion and occupation of Iraq brought into existence. How is that working out?

After 241 US soldiers were killed in the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, President Reagan did not call for negotiations, peace treaties, or international discussions to settle the issue. Recognizing that most people just don’t like a foreign occupier, Reagan ordered a withdrawal of all US troops from Lebanon. He didn’t let concern over that people might call him “soft on terrorism” dissuade him from doing the right thing.

Did that stop the fighting in Lebanon? Of course not! But it did mean that the United States was no longer throwing fuel onto the fire—and that the US government was no longer sacrificing soldiers for nothing, as it did in the Vietnam War.

And that is also what the US government is doing in the Middle East. After itself starting some of the fires, the Pentagon and the CIA are doing pouring fuel on the many ever-expanding fires — from Iraq, to Libya, to Syria, to Yemen, to Somalia.

How is all that working out?

It has all failed. Even worse, with each new intervention the situation has only gotten worse. That’s what happens when one pours fuel on a fire — the fire gets worse.

Not only have they started the fires and poured fuel on the fires in the Middle East, they have then used those fires as the excuse to suspend civil liberties here at home, purportedly to keep us “safe” from the terrorist blowback their fires produce over there. There is also the impending bankruptcy of the US government owing to out of control federal spending and debt to consider.

What will it take for the American people to finally abandon a losing policy? Jeffrey Sachs is right: Bring the troops home now. There is no other practical or moral solution.

[bigjerry]

Hey man take it easy, we dicked around against a token Nazi garrison on the Western front for you guys while the Soviets defeated Hitler. You could be more grateful.

To be fair, Americans have never had to fight fair against worthy opponents, literally not a single war in our history to be proud of once you know enough about it, so it's not like we ever got the chance to learn.

positioning youreself to benefit maximally for minimal martial investment isn't dope, ur so right

gay n@gg@z try to win on the battlefield, real n@gg@z dunk b4 the battle even start -chun li

[bigjerry]

I play Venice in civ 5 every time. water map

[mickmoranis]

I'm talking in terms of doing a good job fighting it, obviously not like being proud of people dying n shit

kinda serious though, Im having trouble justifying ww2 if Im not cool with steamrolling through north korea, more people die there than during the holocost.

At what point is it ok to be at war? I just dont know. :confused:

[Lune]

positioning youreself to benefit maximally for minimal martial investment isn't dope, ur so right

gay n@gg@z try to win on the battlefield, real n@gg@z dunk b4 the battle even start -chun li

That positioning wasn't shrewd or intentional it was inherent in our isolation on the Western hemisphere, and that's what I'm saying, you can't expect the US to be good at full blown war when we've so rarely had to fight it. Don't think you can make a strong case for dunking before the battle starts either. We sure dunked when we let the Civil War happen and failed to keep the Japs under control amirite, and got suckered into vietnam and iraq

[Patriam1066]

Yep yep, americans only go to war on 3rd world country when they can dump bombs from 10,000 feets on people fighting with sticks and stones, so they can proudly bump their chest in their star spangled shirts, clap their hands and gloat on how they're the greatest ever.

Thanks for clarifying that out. Did your balls fall off in the voting booth voting for trump, or did you cut them off yourself when putin started frowning upon you ..?

You have nukes and an aircraft carrier. Feel free to stop asking daddy for help and step out on your own

PS: you complain about America's actions in "irak" when Saddam was given chemical weapons by west Germany that he used to kill 500,000 Persians. When things go wrong in Syria after we invade will you still blame us?

I guess hypocrisy makes sense when you're brain dead. WTB Charlemagne WTS jarnauga and hollande

[Patriam1066]

Hey man take it easy, we dicked around against a token Nazi garrison on the Western front for you guys while the Soviets defeated Hitler. You could be more grateful.

To be fair, Americans have never had to fight fair against worthy opponents, literally not a single war in our history to be proud of once you know enough about it, so it's not like we ever got the chance to learn.

Japan wasn't a worthy opponent? Highest average IQ plus brutally efficient genocidal dedication to the emperor and they got stomped...

Am I missing something?

[AzzarTheGod]

damn look at this inferiority complex

lil french f@g

[mickmoranis]

You have nukes and an aircraft carrier. Feel free to stop asking daddy for help and step out on your own

PS: you complain about America's actions in "irak" when Saddam was given chemical weapons by west Germany that he used to kill 500,000 Persians. When things go wrong in Syria after we invade will you still blame us?

I guess hypocrisy makes sense when you're brain dead. WTB Charlemagne WTS jarnauga and hollande

ILl blame any closeted homosexual american who dresses in american flags and masterbates to freedom and also every single cuck nation democrat.

Everyone else gets a pass.

[bigjerry]

That positioning wasn't shrewd or intentional it was inherent in our isolation on the Western hemisphere, and that's what I'm saying, you can't expect the US to be good at full blown war when we've so rarely had to fight it. Don't think you can make a strong case for dunking before the battle starts either. We sure dunked when we let the Civil War happen and failed to keep the Japs under control amirite, and got suckered into vietnam and iraq

sorry about strategically positioning our empire

manifest destiny wasn't strategy, ok

i agree the civil war was wack tho, where my slaves at?

[Lune]

Japan wasn't a worthy opponent? Highest average IQ plus brutally efficient genocidal dedication to the emperor and they got stomped...

Am I missing something?

Economy and population a fraction the size of ours that hadn't fully westernized, already bogged down in a nasty ground-war in China, and starved of all the necessary strategic resources (oil, steel, rare-earth metals) to fight a modern war?

Hardly got stomped either, it was a slow, grueling campaign across the Pacific. And it only ended the way it did because of what the US does excel at, intellectual capital, ingenuity, and benefiting from brain drain.

[Patriam1066]

Economy and population a fraction the size of ours that hadn't fully westernized, already bogged down in a nasty ground-war in China, and starved of all the necessary strategic resources (oil, steel, rare-earth metals) to fight a modern war?

Hardly got stomped either, it was a slow, grueling campaign across the Pacific.

You know that Japan had Korea, which is rich in all of those except oil? You also realized that "bogged down" means they had all of coastal china, Singapore, Burma, the Philippines, Indonesia....

So a group of warmongers of extreme intelligence who wrecked china, Korea, Indonesia, took Singapore from the British with ease, etc

They weren't a worthy opponent because of geography and demographics? I bet you'd talk down to scipio about his victory not being worthy since Carthage didn't have the supply of young men that Rome had to sustain a war

Jesus Christ I'm glad I voted trump. Feels good to be proud to be an American. SPQA baby god bless Texas

[mickmoranis]

idk any war that isnt yours and you think its worth fighting then you are basically a social justice warrior with a uniform.

[Pokesan]

Hey man take it easy, we dicked around against a token Nazi garrison on the Western front for you guys while the Soviets defeated Hitler. You could be more grateful.

To be fair, Americans have never had to fight fair against worthy opponents, literally not a single war in our history to be proud of once you know enough about it, so it's not like we ever got the chance to learn.

who's the edgy contrarian shitlord now?

[Lune]

You know that Japan had Korea, which is rich in all of those except oil? You also realized that "bogged down" means they had all of coastal china, Singapore, Burma, the Philippines, Indonesia....

So a group of warmongers of extreme intelligence who wrecked china, Korea, Indonesia, took Singapore from the British with ease, etc

They weren't a worthy opponent because of geography and demographics? I bet you'd talk down to scipio about his victory not being worthy since Carthage didn't have the supply of young men that Rome had to sustain a war

Jesus Christ I'm glad I voted trump. Feels good to be proud to be an American. SPQA baby god bless Texas

None of those areas were industrialized, developed with infrastructure, or otherwise capable of supporting resource production to fuel the Japanese war effort, which is why it's a well-known fact they were plagued by crippling supply/resource issues throughout the war & part of the reason why their planes, cities, and aircraft carriers were made out of WOOD.

Extreme intelligence, lol. The average Japanese person at the time was like 5' tall due to vastly inferior nutrition, and if you're applying modern IQ tests to their population at the time I'd be surprised if they were more intelligent at all, on average.

And you're god damn right demographics and geography are important. Ask Hitler or Napoleon about the Russian winter and capacity for defense-in-depth, and see how it goes waging war against a country with 10x your population and industrial capacity.

who's the edgy contrarian shitlord now?

Against hawkish, chest-thumping American militarism, every time. Also went too many pages without disagreeing with someone

[mickmoranis]

wait... are you guys arguing over a bunch of dead mens honor?

[mickmoranis]

by the anyway anyone got a running count of Palestinians genocided? Boy I sure do hate nazis :rolleyes:

[Lune]

wait... are you guys arguing over a bunch of dead mens honor?

What's it have to do with their honor? People got drafted to go kill each other and as far as they knew they were doing it to defend their country, and I respect that. Has nothing to do with nitpicking about whether the US is truly talented at war or just mediocre.

[mickmoranis]

Ok so this is a debate about which country is the most skilled at war?

Hmm thats tough.

I'm goign to go with north korea.

Never been beat, never will be beat, literally says its at war with every country for 50 years, genocides hella more people than hitler and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Close second, Israel.

[Lune]

Ok so this is a debate about which country is the most skilled at war?

Hmm thats tough.

I'm goign to go with north korea.

Never been beat, never will be beat, literally says its at war with every country for 50 years, genocides hella more people than hitler and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Close second, Israel.

It's Germany

[mickmoranis]

Id entertain that, but I dont know much about germany and their military, great country, bad at handling imigration though.

Can you quote me a strong argument why cuck gertmany is a better military might than a military might that literally is undefeated for 50 years and in a perpetual war the whole time?

[Patriam1066]

None of those areas were industrialized, developed with infrastructure, or otherwise capable of supporting resource production to fuel the Japanese war effort, which is why it's a well-known fact they were plagued by crippling supply/resource issues throughout the war & part of the reason why their planes, cities, and aircraft carriers were made out of WOOD.

Extreme intelligence, lol. The average Japanese person at the time was like 5' tall due to vastly inferior nutrition, and if you're applying modern IQ tests to their population at the time I'd be surprised if they were more intelligent at all, on average.

And you're god damn right demographics and geography are important. Ask Hitler or Napoleon about the Russian winter and capacity for defense-in-depth, and see how it goes waging war against a country with 10x your population and industrial capacity.



Against hawkish, chest-thumping American militarism, every time. Also went too many pages without disagreeing with someone

I'm the hawk arguing against a war with Syria that a Frenchman wants us to take the lead on because "Assad has chemical weapons" even though the same guy complains about "Irak" when Saddam killed 500,000 Iranians and used chemical weapons both in that war and against his Kurdish population. I'm not sure how that works

[Lune]

Id entertain that, but I dont know much about germany and their military, great country, bad at handling imigration though.

Can you quote me a strong argument why cuck gertmany is a better military might than a military might that literally is undefeated for 50 years and in a perpetual war the whole time?

Pretty much goes back to before the beginning of the Prussian state and their strong martial tradition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_virtues). basically a cultural fixation on the making of war. Their military was highly organized and they pioneered the modern professional army / chain of command / etc. Fast forward to around WW2 and it's the same thing on steroids, where they basically laid the foundation for the way the modern US military works, pioneering the utilization of blitzkrieg warfare, combined arms, mechanized infantry, airborne assault, strategic bombing, and logistical interdiction, which were all promptly adopted by the Allies.

Very different from modern Germany though where it's not like that anymore but they are still ruthlessly efficient and could probably do it again if they wanted.

I'm the hawk arguing against a war with Syria that a Frenchman wants us to take the lead on because "Assad has chemical weapons" even though the same guy complains about "Irak" when Saddam killed 500,000 Iranians and used chemical weapons both in that war and against his Kurdish population. I'm not sure how that works

Called the US hawkish, not you

[mickmoranis]

Pretty much goes back to before the beginning of the Prussian state and their strong martial tradition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_virtues). basically a cultural fixation on the making of war. Their military was highly organized and they pioneered the modern professional army / chain of command / etc. Fast forward to around WW2 and it's the same thing on steroids, where they basically laid the foundation for the way the modern US military works, pioneering the utilization of blitzkrieg warfare, combined arms, mechanized infantry, airborne assault, strategic bombing, and logistical interdiction, which were all promptly adopted by the Allies.

Very different from modern Germany though where it's not like that anymore but they are still ruthlessly efficient and could probably do it again if they wanted.

yea I see what you mean.

now what if I told you north korea had 50 years of a cultural fixation on the making of war, but then also added in, that they succeeded in hitlers plan of building a generation of citizens with eugenics, puting all family bloodlines of people who rebel into concentration camps?

Surely that has to have made them the god king empire of warriors by now?

[Lune]

yea I see what you mean.

now what if I told you north korea had 50 years of a cultural fixation on the making of war, but then also added in, that they succeeded in hitlers plan of building a generation of citizens with eugenics, puting all family bloodlines of people who rebel into concentration camps?

Surely that has to have made them the god king empire of warriors by now?

No the difference is they're very bad at it.

[Pokesan]

the worst part about Nork Nukes is it's not a clean death, - you're far more likely to suffer painfully from radiation poisoning before death vs being cleanly vaporized as the Lord intended

hail ss-18 satan

[maskedmelonpai]

china gonna rule the world. they actually have leaders who know what they doing. nobody attacking nkorea.

[bigjerry]

I'm the hawk arguing against a war with Syria that a Frenchman wants us to take the lead on because "Assad has chemical weapons" even though the same guy complains about "Irak" when Saddam killed 500,000 Iranians and used chemical weapons both in that war and against his Kurdish population. I'm not sure how that works

lool this a nice post.

jarnauga would rape a grandmother to death if it meant he got patted on the head and told by an authority figure he's a nice person. his political philosophy literally achieves exactly that, actually

[AzzarTheGod]

ITT : CNN talking points and discussion of fake news takes place

[Lune]

ITT : CNN talking points and discussion of fake news takes place

ITT another installment of Lune's Diary of Trump Candids

http://i.imgur.com/V80Z1w8.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

LMAO dat dab

Well at least he seems to be compliant with recent studies on strenuous exercise in middle age to senior citizens which demonstrates if you aren't already in shape from a young age, don't bother-- unless you want to increase your mortality.

exercise being good was just fake news.

[AzzarTheGod]

BLM fights Uber Driver in NYC. "FUCK THE LAW" *rapper accent*

Rape claims, assault, threats of property destruction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXJw30F-Sw

[bigjerry]

During last year’s gAyPRIL at Cal State San Marcos, students were invited to a lecture titled “NOT GAY: Sex Between Straight White Males,” described by a university press release as a talk by a UC Riverside gender and sexuality studies professor on how “sex between straight white men allows them to leverage whiteness and masculinity to authenticate their heterosexuality in the context of sex with men.”

[bigjerry]

Bannon out jobs way up.

What will ma0 cry about now?

[Pokesan]

Place yer bets - holy war in syria or an actually holy war in korea?

[Nibblewitz]

Neither, our military is depleated.

[bigjerry]

Place yer bets - holy war in syria or an actually holy war in korea?

it's a good question. honestly not entered the matrix enough lately 2 offer a solid guess, but here's what I do got.

im thinking korea is psyops (repeat of Bush years cycle of media conditioning; o no he shot a bottle rocket in the ocean. need novel threat to feed paranoia and prime our overreaction to next CIA treason atk since we are collectively so bored w/ killing browns) and we'll have a "it was probably a false flag" that sucks us into Syria. im predicting it will be like Akira with leftists rioting in the streets & curfews in major metropolitan areas. the psychic kids and Akira will not exist literally but simulacra will be created via photo/video editing techniques refined on Reddit, used on riot footage and pumped into the collective consciousness until we are so scared we accept the NWO to fight the invincible alien/superbeing (project blue beam).

this is a tentative guess tho, can I get a genuine f@gg@t lune in here to pretend he knows or a roleplayer who can play one convincingly please?

[Pokesan]

Neither, our military is depleated.

oh yea?

http://i.imgur.com/mAnqg4e.png
http://i.imgur.com/AZa3Zta.png

what is our Promised Reply to a chemical attack on US troops?

how many minutes til midnight?

[Nibblewitz]

America fist

[mickmoranis]

Democrats blame trump for syria LMAO

Yea obama did a great job "holding the country together" even though all we did was dump weapons into the hands of ISL rebels and said, "HAVE AT IT BOYS"

Thanks democrats, you started a war that is worse than the Iraq.

Remind me why I should vote for you again? Oh cus fat women? No.

[Nibblewitz]

Polartics aside, this is just another example of American exceptionalism.

U.S.A can have Israel, but Russia can't have Syria.

[bigjerry]

Democrats blame trump for syria LMAO

Yea obama did a great job "holding the country together" even though all we did was dump weapons into the hands of ISL rebels and said, "HAVE AT IT BOYS"

Thanks democrats, you started a war that is worse than the Iraq.

Remind me why I should vote for you again? Oh cus fat women? No.

naw duke go back a few pages jarn already proved via reddit image macro that isis wasn't built by the demoncrat machine under obama regime

[mickmoranis]

Idiot democrats have selected memory, I know I was one once. (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408)

But I can 100% confirm that all democrats thought this was a "good thing" in 2011.

Arab spring all over the world rigyt??

Ill bet you cant find a fucking democrat that can define arab spring without being able to copy and paste their reply into google and find out its from some bullshit politico aticle.

[bigjerry]

Idiot democrats have selected memory, I know I was one once. (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408)

But I can 100% confirm that all democrats thought this was a "good thing" in 2011.

Arab spring all over the world rigyt??

Ill bet you cant find a fucking democrat that can define arab spring without being able to copy and paste their reply into google and find out its from some bullshit politico aticle.

egypt was literally the result of DoD shilling / signal manipulation on "social media". test run shaping political/military situation by running startrevolution.exe from some pedophile's computer in maryland. some "spring".

[AzzarTheGod]

Bannon out jobs way up.

What will ma0 cry about now?

hold on, getting my opinion from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/steve-bannon-national-security-council/index.html

[AzzarTheGod]

egypt was literally the result of DoD shilling / signal manipulation on "social media". test run shaping political/military situation by running startrevolution.exe from some pedophile's computer in maryland. some "spring".

dude ur gonna break my wokeometer slow down.

Egypt was a testbed for a DoD manufactured revolution, with Tunisia and Libya to lesser extents to see how much reverberation they could carry and how far they could stretch Ground Zero.

Libya ended up being a complete failure (Qadaffi was winning easily, he was pretty popular and an iconic figure, it wasn't going so well) , which also happened to be Hillary's pet project. Nothing 220+ cruise missiles and absolutely illegal violation of UN conventions green beret commando boots on the ground couldn't straighten out.

The top secret DoD mission statement promised France and other intelligence allies that EVERY government would topple in that region, with the French having a specific vested interested in seeing Qaddafi removed from power. They nearly had a heart attack when it looked like Libya wasn't destabilizing, so they started selling weapons to the rebels. That didn't work either, because they had no way to get US fingerprints off it, so they said fuck it, if we cant get US fingerprints off it we'll just put US fingerprints on it and went with the cruise missiles and black flag commandos. It was a French intelligence operator who actually pushed his way to the front of the crowd, leaned in, and executed Qaddafi with a gunshot to the head as the crowd decided what to do with him.

Everyone was pretty surprised at the execution. The rebels knew that it wasn't one of them immediately. The French didn't want a transition of power, even a transition from a crazy reckless coup, if you have the original government leader present for the transition who knows where all the bodies are buried, then they (French/US coalition) can't manipulate the deals they want to manipulate because Qaddafi was privy and wise to them.

Sick sick sick

[AzzarTheGod]

lmao basically when you remove/imprison (Mubarak) and knock the fucks out of the way ala Qaddafi, the newly formed government is a sheep among wolves without the original guys there to explain the nuances of certain deals.

feeding time in the middle east. mmmm nomnomnom these some gud deals. imagine how hard Iraq is cucked if u report on any of this, your car will race and explode in a fireball somewhere on a street in Los Angeles.

mmmm these some gud deals nomnomnomnom

[bigjerry]

some real george tenet woke ITT

quick someone link a cbs.com article on a page that autoplays a video ad for Allstate w audio my mind is becoming a danger

[AzzarTheGod]

Senator Wellstone where you at?

http://i.imgur.com/4BGYtNe.jpg

singular voice of opposition to Middle East intervention in the Senate, ranking member with seniority

yeah I am sure its a coincidence that a critical voice of opposition to Iraq dies in a fiery plane wreck on US soil. The chances of this accident happening, and happening to a US senator are 0.0000001%

slurp slurp slurp *drinks fake Conservative Patriam approved koolaid*



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wellstone

[bigjerry]

back on topic tho trump said "pussy" one time in private

[Jarnauga]

you have to be some special kind of retarded to criticize obama for pulling out of irak and completely forget how the USA got into irak in the first place.

i seem to remember some of your allies warning you about destabilizing the whole region in the process, but hey, who cares about them, let's go eat freedom fries and pour some french wine in the gutter, silly democrats that we are.. :rolleyes:

It's even more funny to consider that the exact same people that were pouring wine yesterday were singing "bomb iran" the next day, then voted trump because obama is the sole and only responsible party in this case..!

http://i.imgur.com/IH4fZyx.gif

PS: little reminder about who voted what..

http://i.imgur.com/JN8OjRd.png

http://i.imgur.com/EiF0P9A.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_20 02.png

[bigjerry]

you have to be some special kind of retarded to criticize obama for pulling out of irak and completely forget how the USA got into irak in the first place.

i seem to remember some of your allies warning you about destabilizing the whole region in the process, but hey, who cares about them, let's go eat freedom fries and pour some french wine in the gutter, silly democrats that we are.. :rolleyes:

It's even more funny to consider that the exact same people that were pouring wine yesterday were singing "bomb iran" the next day, then voted trump because obama is the sole and only responsible party in this case..!

http://i.imgur.com/IH4fZyx.gif

PS: little reminder about who voted what..

http://i.imgur.com/JN8OjRd.png

http://i.imgur.com/EiF0P9A.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_20 02.png

obama = bush dumb f@gg@t, god u are a fucking peasant. policies had 100% continuity (muh gay marriage LOL). did not read

[AzzarTheGod]

quick someone link a cbs.com article on a page that autoplays a video ad for Allstate w audio my mind is becoming a danger

smilin hard lmao

[bigjerry]

88

[Pokesan]

feeding time at the zoo

*tosses CNN tweet to Evola's Tigers*

[Patriam1066]

you have to be some special kind of retarded to criticize obama for pulling out of irak and completely forget how the USA got into irak in the first place.

i seem to remember some of your allies warning you about destabilizing the whole region in the process, but hey, who cares about them, let's go eat freedom fries and pour some french wine in the gutter, silly democrats that we are.. :rolleyes:

It's even more funny to consider that the exact same people that were pouring wine yesterday were singing "bomb iran" the next day, then voted trump because obama is the sole and only responsible party in this case..!

http://i.imgur.com/IH4fZyx.gif

PS: little reminder about who voted what..

http://i.imgur.com/JN8OjRd.png

http://i.imgur.com/EiF0P9A.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_20 02.png

Good post

Which column was Hillary in? I know the answer, do you?

[AzzarTheGod]

you have to be some special kind of retarded to criticize obama for pulling out of irak and completely forget how the USA got into irak in the first place.

i seem to remember some of your allies warning you about destabilizing the whole region in the process, but hey, who cares about them, let's go eat freedom fries and pour some french wine in the gutter, silly democrats that we are.. :rolleyes:

It's even more funny to consider that the exact same people that were pouring wine yesterday were singing "bomb iran" the next day, then voted trump because obama is the sole and only responsible party in this case..!

http://i.imgur.com/IH4fZyx.gif

PS: little reminder about who voted what..

http://i.imgur.com/JN8OjRd.png

http://i.imgur.com/EiF0P9A.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_20 02.png


uh muh election muh election.

muh opposition muh opposition.

yeah good post my ass, whats opposition matter if its systematically silenced or removed if it can't be silenced?

http://i.imgur.com/3uHNrbL.jpg


u talkin 2002 big boi posting a 2002 Iraq resolution and talking opposition so imma drop bandz on your ass 1 more time incase it didn't sink in.

Iraq intervention was not optional.

In 2002, he was the only Senator facing reelection to vote against the congressional authorization for the Iraq War.[1]

[Jarnauga]

Good post

Which column was Hillary in? I know the answer, do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLGtGKeacrY :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdFw1btbkLM :eek:

[Pokesan]

Dont post youtube links nobody will click

[Lune]

Good post

Which column was Hillary in? I know the answer, do you?

Missing the point

But you can't go wrong bashing a candidate who lost and a party with no power, to avoid the impossible task of defending republican policies.

[Patriam1066]

This was the era where Boehner was literally passing out tobacco lobby checks on the floor of the House (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAC2xeT2yOg), but yea let's single out Hillary Clinton as a crook in a den of crooks to draw ridicule away from your favorite party and move away from the issue at hand!

A very low-energy maneuver.

I'm not sure the issue. Hillary is a hawk and jarnauga keeps talking shit about the Iraq war but wants America to topple Assad as if that isn't exactly the same as Iraq (saddam invaded two countries and used chemical weapons so I'd still contend he's far worse than Assad)

It's as absurd as absurd can be and yeah, trump may turn out to be a total retard but Hillary was still a horrible candidate on so many levels

[bigjerry]

feeding time at the zoo

*tosses CNN tweet to Evola's Tigers*

good post

[Patriam1066]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLGtGKeacrY :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdFw1btbkLM :eek:

Who said I was against Sanders?

I'm not an antisemite like most of the folks here

[Lune]

I'm not sure the issue. Hillary is a hawk and jarnauga keeps talking shit about the Iraq war but wants America to topple Assad as if that isn't exactly the same as Iraq (saddam invaded two countries and used chemical weapons so I'd still contend he's far worse than Assad)

It's as absurd as absurd can be and yeah, trump may turn out to be a total retard but Hillary was still a horrible candidate on so many levels

It's all just chess pieces in a losing game of chess, talking about which move was wrong and which move we need to do, when what we really need is to flip the fucking board and get out of the middle east entirely. The entire thing is a profound foreign policy failure decades in the making.

Iraq was wrong, fucking around in Syria is wrong, deploying ground forces into Syria would be VERY WRONG and what we probably would have gotten with anyone but Obama.

But the only decision I'm advocating for is getting the fuck out.

[bigjerry]

smoke some dmt, let your spirit fly beyond zog's walls and survey all within them. in other words get woke

like anyone is on here cheerleading the rebuttlickan party ever other than a couple background noise retards who ain't posted today. bringing up boehner why?

[Pokesan]

Who said I was against Sanders?

I'm not an antisemite like most of the folks here

Knock it off with the identity politics man

[bigjerry]

Who said I was against Sanders?

I'm not an antisemite like most of the folks here

don't boil my Sanders argument down to racism pally-o

[Patriam1066]

Knock it off with the identity politics man

Sorry dude I hate France though

[Patriam1066]

don't boil my Sanders argument down to racism pally-o

One love dude but I kinda like Sanders

Mea culpa

[AzzarTheGod]

ITT two redditors discuss votes on a war that was predetermined to occur by the Deep State

cringing hard

[Lune]

that was predetermined to occur by the Deep State

That's quite the bold claim, got some [bold evidence] to back that up? Because it seems to me-- and correct me if I'm wrong-- the Democratic party was opposed to the war.

Here let me do what you just did:

ITT: Azzar thinks he's discrediting two redditors but instead it's two sentient algorithms designed by the CIA to elicit Azzar to divulge his political views for future sigint ops

[bigjerry]

One love dude but I kinda like Sanders

Mea culpa

my carpool tunnels are too mad to woke on this properly for the thousandth time

keep your Brave New World sleepaway sex camps, youll be perfectly happy sucking my dick on your own time guaranteed. lune is correct, flipping the board is step 1. but it needs to be done domestically first. that does not mean feeding the beast more authority on the scale that it qualifies as a revolution and hoping it will treat us right cuz it said "get money out of politics" just like hillary.

if you "trust him" because he's been consistent for many years, you didn't watch him compete to be more hawk than hill at the debates. the long con. Bernie is idiot shit, wake up and buy guns & ammo

[Lune]

my carpool tunnels are too mad to woke on this properly for the thousandth time

keep your Brave New World sleepaway sex camps, youll be perfectly happy sucking my dick on your own time guaranteed. lune is correct, flipping the board is step 1. but it needs to be done domestically first. that does not mean feeding the beast more authority on the scale that it qualifies as a revolution and hoping it will treat us right cuz it said "get money out of politics" just like hillary.

if you "trust him" because he's been consistent for many years, you didn't watch him compete to be more hawk than hill at the debates. the long con. Bernie is idiot shit, wake up and buy guns & ammo

Bernie trying to out-hawk Hillary at the debates? Did you even watch them?

Was it the part where he said climate change was the greatest threat to US national security even more than ISIS, and then doubled down on it the next debate? What a fucking warlord.

[bigjerry]

ITT two redditors discuss votes on a war that was predetermined to occur by the Deep State

cringing hard

woke

simulations & simulacra

wow this guy who has mounted a steadily ineffective "opposition" for 40 yrs suddenly wants to give extreme boosts in power to the state. i think he's a nice old man so it would be good right?

[bigjerry]

Bernie trying to out-hawk Hillary at the debates? Did you even watch them?

Was it the part where he said climate change was the greatest threat to US national security even more than ISIS, and then doubled down on it the next debate? What a fucking warlord.

"the only thing more important than continuing foreign interventions is awarding the state unlimited power to shape business and crush upstarts"

solid argument, genius. a real gotcha

[Patriam1066]

woke

simulations & simulacra

wow this guy who has mounted a steadily ineffective "opposition" for 40 yrs suddenly wants to give extreme boosts in power to the state. i think he's a nice old man so it would be good right?

Haha I Lol'ed

Good point but I still like him

Steadily ineffective opposition for 40 years, LOL. I'm laughing harder the second time I read it

[Ahldagor]

Y'all forget that Libya stopped trading oil in US Dollars? So much butthurt over Bannon getting ousted, Trump's the puppet we deserve me thinks.

[Lune]

woke

simulations & simulacra

wow this guy who has mounted a steadily ineffective "opposition" for 40 yrs suddenly wants to give extreme boosts in power to the state. i think he's a nice old man so it would be good right?

A large majority of fatistan disagrees with Sanders on most issues and in a representative democracy that means you're not going to have much power if any.

"the only thing more important than continuing foreign interventions is awarding the state unlimited power to shape business and crush upstarts"

solid argument, genius. a real gotcha

Beyond the hyperbole, you don't have a better way to protect the environment than through the state.

[AzzarTheGod]

That's quite the bold claim, got some [bold evidence] to back that up? Because it seems to me-- and correct me if I'm wrong-- the Democratic party was opposed to the war.

Here let me do what you just did:

ITT: Azzar thinks he's discrediting two redditors but instead it's two sentient algorithms designed by the CIA to elicit Azzar to divulge his political views for future sigint ops

Any bipartisan votes they needed were gathered by Dick Cheney personally. The rest of the opposition was hollow, they just needed the votes to pass. Senator Wellstone (literally Jewish) was the loudest most senior (((voice))) against Cheney's sales pitch and they took care of it as he was meddling too much and threatening his outlook for the duration of the war.

You're already familiar with how he would hawk people down in the Senate building how many stories did we hear of him "going out and getting the votes". Fox has run several pieces covering his role as Vice President. He was out from behind his desk and was personally walking down Senators post-2001. He was described as a quiet COO type of person, an operations guy.

When the king speaks, the world listens

[bigjerry]

Beyond the hyperbole, you don't have a better way to protect the environment than through the state.

this comes after the matrix locks my people on the top of the pile permanently. I would not see China reach the info-control singularity before we do, even if it means our tiny chunk of the population of this planet pisses marginally harder on the Earth for another century. if you're not willing to go kaczynski the least you can do is make sure the godhead of Satan sprouts from Western values and not some godawful baby-eating ch!nk pit.

We can do more for the environment by regulating foreigners through imperium than we can manage domestically, by orders of magnitude.

[Lune]

this comes after the matrix locks my people on the top of the pile permanently. I would not see China reach the info-control singularity before we do, even if it means our tiny chunk of the population of this planet pisses marginally harder on the Earth for another century. if you're not willing to go kaczynski the least you can do is make sure the godhead of Satan sprouts from Western values and not some godawful baby-eating ch!nk pit.

We can do more for the environment by regulating foreigners through imperium than we can manage domestically, by orders of magnitude.

upvote, with the addendum that the West and the worldwide industry that supports the West produces more emissions and damages more hectares of "environment" than 2 billion Africans living in fuckhuts

[AzzarTheGod]

no link but memory just kicked in from a special on Cheney.

I believe it was a member of Congressman said "Vice President Cheney wasn't afraid to pull you aside on the Hill *bobbing his head to imitate* if he needed something" Hannity chuckled and smiled very hard at the anecdote and had a little quick moment before firing off the next question.

Nuff said Lune.

[Lune]

Any bipartisan votes they needed were gathered by Dick Cheney personally. The rest of the opposition was hollow, they just needed the votes to pass. Senator Wellstone (literally Jewish) was the loudest most senior (((voice))) against Cheney's sales pitch and they took care of it as he was meddling too much and threatening his outlook for the duration of the war.

You're already familiar with how he would hawk people down in the Senate building how many stories did we hear of him "going out and getting the votes". Fox has run several pieces covering his role as Vice President. He was out from behind his desk and was personally walking down Senators post-2001. He was described as a quiet COO type of person, an operations guy.

When the king speaks, the world listens

Bipartisan votes were easy because the US strongly supported that shit at the time, so even the most effete of Democrats who weren't full blown quakers could be brought on board. This was 2 years after 9/11 and people were out for blood. Doesn't change the vote tally my nurga

[Jarnauga]

I'm not sure the issue. Hillary is a hawk and jarnauga keeps talking shit about the Iraq war but wants America to topple Assad as if that isn't exactly the same as Iraq (saddam invaded two countries and used chemical weapons so I'd still contend he's far worse than Assad)

It's as absurd as absurd can be and yeah, trump may turn out to be a total retard but Hillary was still a horrible candidate on so many levels

i never said that US should invade syria, but there's a difference between that and ignoring anything he does because "hey at least he's not ISIS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Call that nitpicking if you want, but that's how diplomacy works.

The only reason Assad is still in place is because of russia, not because us didn't send troops. All i ever hear from the USA is "russia are invading georgia.. well that happened ¯\_(ツ)_/¯", "hey look, russia invaded ukraine.. who cares, they were russians already right ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯", soon: "bal-what ? baltic states ? the fuck is that ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" "what do you mean finland is being invaded ? that's where ikea is right ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". For fuck sake, with friends like you we don't need enemies. Whatev, it's not like we're getting used to it, had to stand alone for 3 years in WW1, for 3 another years in WW2, i guess the next one we'll have to fight alone as usual while you guys fight over who got FTE on the 17438th nagafen pop.

Patriam you actually made me laugh out loud talking about the japanese. Did japanese bomb any civilian in the US..? did you suffer chemical attacks ? did you get bombed 200 shells per second on a territory a few squared miles for months on end ? did you get bombed so much all over your territory that you will have to demine unexploded bombs for the next 7 centuries ? did you get the equivalent of vietnam casualties every months ..? did you have whole villages wiped out in the most gruesome ways just because it was heard that resistance fighters were hiding out ..? The only reason you never got anything of that is because you have the 2 biggest oceans on your sides, and 2 pacific neighbors on the other sides. i mean damn, these nasty canadians once burned down the white house, i bet it was terrible. don't talk about war man, you think you know about it, but you know nothing, jon snow.

All of the US foreign policy about syria is basically trading a whole refugee crisis (that you don't wanna deal with even though you have a very large part in it) and hundreds of thousands of deaths for "at least it's not isis".. and somehow you think the rest of the arab world is gonna forget all of that and everything's gonna be fine !

Whether assad stays in power or not, we're gonna have repercussions on the whole world for at least twenty years.. and that's your mess, and now you refuse to clean it out ? lol.. talk about acting like a petulant children for the last 15 years.

[bigjerry]

i never said that US should invade syria, but there's a difference between that and ignoring anything he does because "hey at least he's not ISIS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Call that nitpicking if you want, but that's how diplomacy works.

The only reason Assad is still in place is because of russia, not because us didn't send troops. All i ever hear from the USA is "russia are invading georgia.. well that happened ¯\_(ツ)_/¯", "hey look, russia invaded ukraine.. who cares, they were russians already right ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯", soon: "bal-what ? baltic states ? the fuck is that ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" "what do you mean finland is being invaded ? that's where ikea is right ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". For fuck sake, with friends like you we don't need enemies. Whatev, it's not like we're getting used to it, had to stand alone for 3 years in WW1, for 3 another years in WW2, i guess the next one we'll have to fight alone as usual while you guys fight over who got FTE on the 17438th nagafen pop.

Patriam you actually made me laugh out loud talking about the japanese. Did japanese bomb any civilian in the US..? did you suffer chemical attacks ? did you get bombed 200 shells per second on a territory a few squared miles for months on end ? did you get bombed so much all over your territory that you will have to demine unexploded bombs for the next 7 centuries ? did you get the equivalent of vietnam casualties every months ..? did you have whole villages wiped out in the most gruesome ways just because it was heard that resistance fighters were hiding out ..? The only reason you never got anything of that is because you have the 2 biggest oceans on your sides, and 2 pacific neighbors on the other sides. i mean damn, these nasty canadians once burned down the white house, i bet it was terrible. don't talk about war man, you think you know about it, but you know nothing, jon snow.

All of the US foreign policy about syria is basically trading a whole refugee crisis (that you don't wanna deal with even though you have a very large part in it) and hundreds of thousands of deaths for "at least it's not isis".. and somehow you think the rest of the arab world is gonna forget all of that and everything's gonna be fine !

Whether assad stays in power or not, we're gonna have repercussions on the whole world for at least twenty years.. and that's your mess, and now you refuse to clean it out ? lol.. talk about acting like a petulant children for the last 15 years.

nobody gonna read this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Patriam1066]

Jarnauga stop being triggered dude I disagree with you that's all

Big J is right I'm not reading that give me the cliff notes

[Lune]

nobody gonna read this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I read the entire thing and nodded my head the entire time both in approval and opium

Jarnauga stop being triggered dude I disagree with you that's all

Big J is right I'm not reading that give me the cliff notes


LuneNotes: TLDR - The US is more lame than they let on, and strongly implying the US has a duty to do something about Assad without outright saying it, because apparently it's our fault Syria is a shithole.

[maskedmelonpai]

ain't nobody in the developed world but a few fastly fading cadavers who know what war is. ain't nobody know what worth fightin for neither.

[Lune]

ain't nobody know what worth fightin for neither.

Let me have war, say I; it exceeds peace as far as day does night: it's spritely waking, audible, and full of vent. Peace is a very apoplexy, lethargy; mull'd, deaf, sleepy, insensible; a getter of more bastard children than war's a destroyer of men.

-Shakespeare's Coriolanus

[maskedmelonpai]

Let me have war, say I; it exceeds peace as far as day does night: it's spritely waking, audible, and full of vent. Peace is a very apoplexy, lethargy; mull'd, deaf, sleepy, insensible; a getter of more bastard children than war's a destroyer of men.

-Shakespeare's Coriolanus

i liek this, it pretty. not sure what you meant with it, but i feel like it a word treat :3 unoriginal thought dont bother me so much when it this pretty (^^) it make me feel happy and stuff.

thank you

[Pokesan]

i'm glad to have started the war in syria

would prefer korea tho

[mickmoranis]

trump better re-institute the draft so keyboard warrior democrats can get what they deserve. And started.

[Lune]

trump better re-institute the draft so keyboard warrior democrats can get what they deserve. And started.

Oh you mean those young 18-21 year old democrats who don't even really know what they are, but verbally lean left because think it's funny when SNL pillories Trump and because of what their college professor said?

Cruel as fuck man

[mickmoranis]

Oh you mean those young 18-21 year old democrats who don't even really know what they are, but verbally lean left because think it's funny when SNL pillories Trump and because of what their college professor said?

Cruel as fuck man

dude, tahts even better! The only thing that would please me more than sending off all these fake lefties to their death who support the war of terror and $hillary than sending their kids off to war in their name.

Fuck them they deserve everything they got coming to them, all their facts and data and fart smelling, yet they be like, "war is fine i dont mind it"

these cuck artists and musicians need to start paying for their freedom instead of bitching about people who do.

[bigjerry]

dude, tahts even better! The only thing that would please me more than sending off all these fake lefties to their death who support the war of terror and $hillary than sending their kids off to war in their name.

Fuck them they deserve everything they got coming to them, all their facts and data and fart smelling, yet they be like, "war is fine i dont mind it"

these cuck artists and musicians need to start paying for their freedom instead of bitching about people who do.

i was fully unwoke sheeple until like age 24 and even then i only ascended w the help of copious chemicals

[mickmoranis]

i was fully unwoke sheeple until like age 24 and even then i only ascended w the help of copious chemicals

who cares the only thing that would make facebook Americans realize that there is a cost to war is if they had to pay for it, instead of belittling all the people that volunteer to do it for watching fox news you guys get it yet?

if cuckbama killed white american boys and girls isntead of gave white american boys and girls the right to lecture people who volunteer to fight for their country about refugees then maybe they would understand the costs u dig?

[AzzarTheGod]

i was fully unwoke sheeple until like age 24 and even then i only ascended w the help of copious chemicals

Think that's most ppl who become woke it takes time to wake and fight the fake friends n snakes, 9 milly and .38's

[georgie]

Right to bear arms gone soon heads up 🤗

[bigjerry]

Think that's most ppl who become woke it takes time to wake and fight the fake friends n snakes, 9 milly and .38's

woke post

[Lune]

people who volunteer to fight for their country about refugees then maybe they would understand the costs u dig?

They volunteer to improve their own economic situation and social status, with altruism being a small motive for the relatively few people that have it. I mean there are a few exceptions but not all that many.

That is such a naive view of the way things work and I hate to put it in these terms but it's 0% woke. Very sleepy post and very disappointing.

[bigjerry]

woke is the word of the decade easily. when you diss woke you diss yourself

[bigjerry]

does (((bannon)))'s departure mean Trump is going off the zog rails for real? or that he's dipping deeper into zoglodism?

[Lune]

does (((bannon)))'s departure mean Trump is going off the zog rails for real? or that he's dipping deeper into zoglodism?

Did Bannon leave completely? All I saw was that he was removed from that council he never should have been on in the first place.

Also I'm completely stumped as to how Bannon, a white nationalist, could possibly warrant parentheses.

[bigjerry]

https://i.imgur.com/odDGBCt.png

let's not get hung up on whether he's fully out or not. the real question is will this lessen or increase the influence of zog?

as my parantheses indicate, i think maybe lessen. but i read he was fighting with Jared Loughner, a full-blooded ((())) and that's why he left, so it's hard to say.

perhaps there is a third option: he was determined by the elders to not be a competent servant of moloch? so influence may increase or diminish depending on how competent his successor is

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/odDGBCt.png

let's not get hung up on whether he's fully out or not. the real question is will this lessen or increase the influence of zog?

as my parantheses indicate, i think maybe lessen. but i read he was fighting with Jared Loughner, a full-blooded ((())) and that's why he left, so it's hard to say.

perhaps there is a third option: he was determined by the elders to not be a competent servant of moloch? so influence may increase or diminish depending on how competent his successor is

I thought pro-Israel wasn't necessarily pro-zog?

If that's the case, that entire administration is zog incarnate. Very pro-Israel so far in words, not necessarily actions, but it's early for actions to speak. Meaningfully, they've failed to come down on Israeli settlements. Even Obama did that.

I get the feeling Bannon actually believes he's there to liberate government for the American people and Jared comes off as a very shady guy, almost Clinton-esque, so I'm not surprised they'd be sparring.

[bigjerry]

I thought pro-Israel wasn't necessarily pro-zog?

If that's the case, that entire administration is zog incarnate. Very pro-Israel so far in words, not necessarily actions, but it's early for actions to speak. Meaningfully, they've failed to come down on Israeli settlements. Even Obama did that.

I get the feeling Bannon actually believes he's there to liberate government for the American people and Jared comes off as a very shady guy, almost Clinton-esque, so I'm not surprised they'd be sparring.

since when do you admit to remembering things I said? only when they don't directly dunk you?

anyway i got creative cottonmouth, i posted 2 much 2day. thx for trying to join daddy but i can't getit up right now

[mickmoranis]

They volunteer to improve their own economic situation and social status, with altruism being a small motive for the relatively few people that have it. I mean there are a few exceptions but not all that many.

That is such a naive view of the way things work and I hate to put it in these terms but it's 0% woke. Very sleepy post and very disappointing.

Whether or not they volunteer for economics or freedom, it doesn't change that democrats are fine with war and I think its because they've lost touch with the threat of it actually affecting them. They need a reminder.

[AzzarTheGod]

since when do you admit to remembering things I said? only when they don't directly dunk you?

anyway i got creative cottonmouth, i posted 2 much 2day. thx for trying to join daddy but i can't getit up right now

dim sum lune sporting some Viagra wood I'm not popping anything to keep up w/ that all natty

[AzzarTheGod]

pro-Israel wasn't necessarily pro-zog


woke

[Ahldagor]

And back to ZoG talk......y'all are getting sad. So are Trump supporters, the somewhat not caught up in the personality cult ones, starting to feel cheated, again, by the GoP? I mean, what Trump advocates and would like to enable is what Alex Jones and his ilk were warning against ten plus years ago, so as it pans out these next three plus years, will we see the executive cross that line?

[maskedmelonpai]

i don't think she understand what white privilege is

White Privilege, Explained in One Simple Comic (http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/white-privilege-explained/)

[Nilstoniakrath]

i don't think she understand what white privilege is

White Privilege, Explained in One Simple Comic (http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/white-privilege-explained/)

The real question is, do you understand what black privilege is?

[bigjerry]

The real question is, do you understand what black privilege is?

socks w sandals

[maskedmelonpai]

socks w sandals

if that true, there massive institutionalized cultural appropriation goin on in PNW. I looking at you Microsoft. disgusting... :c

[Lune]

i don't think she understand what white privilege is

White Privilege, Explained in One Simple Comic (http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/white-privilege-explained/)

Oh, you're sad because white people are benefiting from racism? Girl, when I was your age, I left school to bullseye g@@ks from a helicopter in the middle of some god forsaken jungle. Don't tell me you have it hard because you're passed over for a job when you show up to the interview in neon lime sneakers. You can act sad when you have to leave behind the lady-boy you fell in love with and made passionate steamy love to in a collapsing bamboo shack, just like I did. You think I felt good about firebombing his ch1nk village and watching our fuck-hut burn to the ground? We were going to build our lives together there, feminist. You know what? Fuck you. Get the fuck out of my country.

[maskedmelonpai]

Oh, you're sad because white people are benefiting from racism? Girl, when I was your age, I left school to bullseye g@@ks from a helicopter in the middle of some god forsaken jungle. Don't tell me you have it hard because you're passed over for a job when you show up to the interview in neon lime sneakers. You can act sad when you have to leave behind the lady-boy you fell in love with and made passionate steamy love to in a collapsing bamboo shack, just like I did. You think I felt good about firebombing his ch1nk village and watching our fuck-hut burn to the ground? We were going to build our lives together there, feminist. You know what? Fuck you. Get the fuck out of my country.

i sorry about you girlfriend, but the tragedy of you life do not justify denial of the right to fashionable footwear for others.

on a serious note though, it really is pretty damning for white people when you consider that white privilege is the reason 88% of prison population are POC. it liek being born white make you not commit crime. that messed up. i never asked for that. it really weird to think that racist oppressiveness from ignorant white people make non-white people so frustrated that they commit crimes. when you think about it, it make sense why she sad. i mean, i would feel bad if I was making people do bad things that they didn't want to do. I pretty sure I not contributing to the problem or doing that though because I know quite a few POC and none of them committing crimes. in fact only ones i know of who have committed crimes are white. well, except on POC who embezzled, but otherwise they all white.

[Pokesan]

:eek:Daywolf was right:eek:

boots on the ground 2017

http://i.imgur.com/JcaPnfp.png

Eternal Sunshine™ tans coming soon to your nearest population center!

[maskedmelon]

i miss daywolfs :c

[mickmoranis]

of course boots on the ground what kind of moron thinks arming isis rebels and encouraging them to get into a fight wouldnt eventually result with us being involved?

Shit thats how fucking 911 happened

[mickmoranis]

this video is a metaphore for democrats starting shit between rebels and leaders that the establishment doesn't like.

Hint: when hes pointing saying, "which one ill advised you?" the answer is, "democrats" (http://wgno.com/2017/03/21/video-of-man-breaking-up-street-fight-gone-viral/)

[bigjerry]

i miss daywolfs :c

upboat

i marked him best new poster & I was right

come back buddy

[JurisDictum]

I'm going to go ahead and the guess many of the boots on the ground are people dying to prove themselves in the field for the status. As long as the "boots on the ground" remains small -- I won't necessarily fly my peace flag. It's only with prolonged engagements that that too many normal military personnel begin to die.

[AzzarTheGod]

upboat

i marked him best new poster & I was right

come back buddy

Yeah Daywolf was always right about me. I was just hating on him because I didn't have the attention span to read his posts at any given time.

When he came back, you felt it. It was an event. Hope I didn't contribute to running him off the forums forever.

[JurisDictum]

America is the world's premier military super power. Unlike some left-leaning Americans, I'm not a complete dove on Foreign Policy because I think we need to just accept we are the empire at this point. The proverbial bad guys with an ultra strong military and greedy politicians that want as much cash as they can get out of lesser countries.

We need to just make sure we are making shrewd moves and not stupid ones as far as utilizing our military is concerned. Many experts are now accepting that America will have to withdraw in certain areas and not control the entire globe anymore. Syria is still under our sphere of influence, nevertheless.

[mickmoranis]

America is the world's premier military super power. Unlike some left-leaning Americans, I'm not a complete dove on Foreign Policy because I think we need to just accept we are the empire at this point. The proverbial bad guys with an ultra strong military and greedy politicians that want as much cash as they can get out of lesser countries.

We need to just make sure we are making shrewd moves and not stupid ones as far as utilizing our military is concerned. Many experts are now accepting that America will have to withdraw in certain areas and not control the entire globe anymore. Syria is still under our sphere of influence, nevertheless.

idk man if you look at the last 50 years of the best premier military super power we have to offer it results in massive global terrorism so Id say its time to try something new than just keep doing the same thing over.

Americans tend to think, oh were going to put boots on the ground in syria? This is going to be great, we'll solve this problem with our military might!

Then 18 years later were arguing over what to call muslims still.

Sounds like someone is like my life sucks, im going to keep doing the same things though.