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mickmoranis
12-14-2018, 02:28 PM
In 2014, after putting in 10 years of "duty" to my manipulative "polyamorous" wife (to put it lightly), i finished up the last year of college sleeping in a tent and showering in the campus gym daily (on loans that i am not delinquent on). I then proceeded to couch surf while working a minimum wage job for 6 months to buy a car.

Then i moved back to san jose, went 24/7 blitzkrieg on the job hunt, targetting companies i intended to work for and solicited them instead of waiting on a job posting. The job i ended up taking interviewed me on day 3 of being in town. I began working on day 5. I slept in my car and picked up a gym membership, where i continued to maintain appearances for the next 6 months before paying off all of the joint debts on my credit history so that i was rent-to-able.

In the meanwhile, my "wife" moved in with her "husband", who, it turns out, she was married to since they eloped at the age of 18, which she never thought important to tell me prior to exchanging vows bigamously.

Child support was paid the entire time. When they broke up about 18 months ago, and my ex moved back to CA, i took her to court and sued her for regular visitation.

I did not complain aboit any of this the entire time it was transpiring. In fact, i was just happy to be rid of her trifling ways. To get back to center, i pulled myself up by my own bootstraps from a position that you could not even imagine being in, child.

the problem with liberals is they'd rather bully you about your life than talk about what an amazing job you did rebuilding it after going through your version of the same struggle everyone goes through, life.

Your story is inspiring and is why conservatives dont want to pay for other peoples shit. Because nobody payed for theirs and they saw that all they needed to do to get their shit together was to stop asking other people to do it for them and to make sacrafices to get it right.

The problem with the modern generation is they simply not only do not know this, they think if you get into a situation like this its somehow a character flaw, so they just pretend that they are not in it themselves by not trying to fix it and demanding that the government prevent anyone from ever being in it in the first place.

Its like asking god for a world to exist without sin.

You cant live in a free universe if you are protected from the dangers that come with it.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 02:28 PM
imagine being so cuckolded you sit and try to flex on an internet forum dedicated to a 20 year old game

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 02:29 PM
https://youtu.be/6DMxeXB3F-A

mickmoranis
12-14-2018, 02:30 PM
imagine being so cuckolded you sit and try to flex on an internet forum dedicated to a 20 year old game

annnnnnnd there's the liberal I said would bully you.

its like physics with these people, the laws of thermodynamics state if a conservative talks about their life a liberal will bully them and then the liberal will demand that you dont call them fat or a man.

mickmoranis
12-14-2018, 02:31 PM
https://youtu.be/6DMxeXB3F-A

thats RAPE

lol

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 02:32 PM
https://youtu.be/6DMxeXB3F-A

an SJW slasher

i <3 it

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 02:35 PM
I know there are a lot of lonely nerds on this forum (Wonkie, misterbonkers, Ahldagor), so just a word of advice:

Don't become some Twitch THOT's paypig (http://webm.land/media/d6zH.webm)

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:37 PM
annnnnnnd there's the liberal I said would bully you.

its like physics with these people, the laws of thermodynamics state if a conservative talks about their life a liberal will bully them and then the liberal will demand that you dont call them fat or a man.

Its all good. I knew it would garner the "kobold swipe". Crabs in a bucket mentality and all. I actually pity them, it reminds me where i came from, and the transformation i had to undertake to overcome it. Very Campbell-esque, the journey is.

feniin
12-14-2018, 02:38 PM
Didn't read any of your posts but are you three done sucking each others' dicks?

mickmoranis
12-14-2018, 02:39 PM
I know there are a lot of lonely nerds on this forum (Wonkie, misterbonkers, Ahldagor), so just a word of advice:

Don't become some Twitch THOT's paypig (http://webm.land/media/d6zH.webm)

hahaha she fake high fives her self

I feel like this is watching cam girl porn

like its just a girl highfiving herself while these types of people throw money at them

just another one for the list of why modern kids are more retarded that has NOTHING TO DO with older people, JURISDICTIM.

feniin
12-14-2018, 02:40 PM
hahaha she fake high fives her self

I feel like this is watching cam girl porn

like its just a girl highfiving herself while these types of people throw money at them

just another one for the list of why modern kids are more retarded that has NOTHING TO DO with older people, JURISDICTIM.

no u r

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 02:41 PM
I know there are a lot of lonely nerds on this forum (Wonkie, misterbonkers, Ahldagor), so just a word of advice:

Don't become some Twitch THOT's paypig (http://webm.land/media/d6zH.webm)

he probably asked her to do that, you know. cucks are weird, good job empowering his fetish i guess

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:46 PM
Anyways, to circle back on things. My gf now knows my entire story. We have a very nice thing going. She knows that Im living my best life, and I have no qualms whatsoever burning it all to the ground and walking if she tests that reality.

That's what's up.

feniin
12-14-2018, 02:48 PM
Anyways, to circle back on things. My gf now knows my entire story. We have a very nice thing going. She knows that Im living my best life, and I have no qualms whatsoever burning it all to the ground and walking if she tests that reality.

That's what's up.
You said she was a redhead right?
https://i.imgur.com/LGVTe1v.jpg

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:50 PM
You said she was a redhead right?
https://i.imgur.com/LGVTe1v.jpg

So, you are, reading? You paying close attention? You seem to have a very vested interest in ensuring other men don't make these connections? You worried?

feniin
12-14-2018, 02:51 PM
So, you are, reading? You paying close attention? You seem to have a very vested interest in ensuring other men don't make these connections? You worried?

What?

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:51 PM
What?

Exactly. Carry on.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 02:51 PM
you're not "a cuck" but you did "get cucked". nuance is the beauty of language.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:52 PM
you're not "a cuck" but you did "get cucked". nuance is the beauty of language.

A fair assessment, we'll call it a half-concealed kobold swipe.

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 02:53 PM
you're not "a cuck" but you did "get cucked". nuance is the beauty of language.

I don't think any leftist I have ever come across has ever understood the "cuck" meme.

It's not hard to get, guys...

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:55 PM
I don't think any leftist I have ever come across has ever understood the "cuck" meme.

It's not hard to get, guys...

The cuck fetishizes the abuse, blames himself for it (part of the whole "giving their power to the self-doubt demon" thing) and accepts it as his reality.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 02:56 PM
I don't think any leftist I have ever come across has ever understood the "cuck" meme.

It's not hard to get, guys...

Would you like to argue about it? The meme I mean

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 02:56 PM
Would you like to argue about it? The meme I mean

I'll argue about the weather, you know me.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 02:57 PM
Yeah its a nice day? What the fuck about it?! It's probably going to rain tomorrow! Fuck you!

feniin
12-14-2018, 02:59 PM
I'll argue about the weather, you know me.

This is why I like you.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 03:05 PM
I don't think any leftist I have ever come across has ever understood the "cuck" meme.

It's not hard to get, guys...

seems pretty cuck and dry to me

Throndor
12-14-2018, 03:06 PM
seems pretty cuck and dry to me

That could never happen to me, because im a paragon of....

what were we talking about again?

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 03:08 PM
seems pretty cuck and dry to me

Well since you misused it in your previous comment, you probably need another lesson.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 03:18 PM
Well since you misused it in your previous comment, you probably need another lesson.

my "wife" moved in with her "husband"

argue semantics all you want, the proof is in the pudding

Throndor
12-14-2018, 03:19 PM
argue semantics all you want, the proof is in the pudding

Are you ok? You're such a hateful little kobold.

I guess that's the only thing left to do, when you've lost on every conceivable front.

Ethical - Check
Logical - Check
Pathological - Check

It's all good though, bruh. Sometimes, you have to lose everything to rebuild on a solid foundation.

Here's to hoping you have the grit to do so.

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 03:20 PM
HAHAHAHA DANCE MONKEY, DANCE! (https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1072740115594784768)

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 03:23 PM
argue semantics all you want, the proof is in the pudding

it looks like he was cheated on.

that's not being a "cuck".

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 03:24 PM
HAHAHAHA DANCE MONKEY, DANCE! (https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1072740115594784768)

they gettin paid to party

Throndor
12-14-2018, 03:25 PM
they gettin paid to party

I wonder how far into the party she made it before she shit herself and got hauled off to the van.

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 03:28 PM
they gettin paid to party

Clintons sell out to the highest bidder, no matter what

Saudi

Indian

Nigerian

Lebanese

Doesn't matter.

If you can pay, you can play :D

feniin
12-14-2018, 03:29 PM
Are you ok? You're such a hateful little kobold.

I guess that's the only thing left to do, when you've lost on every conceivable front.

Ethical - Check
Logical - Check
Pathological - Check

It's all good though, bruh. Sometimes, you have to lose everything to rebuild on a solid foundation.

Here's to hoping you have the grit to do so.

Is she a polyfiber blend or down? Do they make them with memory foam? I don't even know. Either way, I hope you guys are happy together.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 03:32 PM
Is she a polyfiber blend or down? Do they make them with memory foam? I don't even know. Either way, I hope you guys are happy together.

I guess we'll accept your concession.

feniin
12-14-2018, 03:34 PM
I guess we'll accept your concession.

Yeah, I don't wanna fight you for your girlfriend. I'm not a homewrecker.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 03:38 PM
Yeah, I don't wanna fight you for your girlfriend. I'm not a homewrecker.

Appreciate it, comrade.

Although I don't think she's interested morbidly obese unkempt women.

feniin
12-14-2018, 03:50 PM
Appreciate it, comrade.

Although I don't think she's interested morbidly obese unkempt women.

That's a relief.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 04:08 PM
Are you ok? You're such a hateful little kobold.

I guess that's the only thing left to do, when you've lost on every conceivable front.

Ethical - Check
Logical - Check
Pathological - Check

It's all good though, bruh. Sometimes, you have to lose everything to rebuild on a solid foundation.

Here's to hoping you have the grit to do so.

grit's on my side, pal

https://i.imgur.com/TtXuRrP.jpg

feniin
12-14-2018, 04:10 PM
Is it wrong to punch Nazis?

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 04:13 PM
Is it wrong to punch Nazis?

nope, never.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 04:14 PM
nope, never.

Socialist? Check
Unitary Ideology? Check

Seems very natzist to me.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 04:15 PM
You gonna send your women to the front line to do your fighting for you while you "support" in the background by sucking each others' dicks, too?

Aint scurred, kid. Cant even make your bed and brush your teeth in the morning. Theres not enough other people to do the work of winning your war for you.

feniin
12-14-2018, 04:33 PM
You gonna send your women to the front line to do your fighting for you while you "support" in the background by sucking each others' dicks, too?

Aint scurred, kid. Cant even make your bed and brush your teeth in the morning. Theres not enough other people to do the work of winning your war for you.

https://i.imgur.com/sHsKfI3.jpg

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 04:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TtXuRrP.jpg

lol that meme is such a rip off of this quote:

https://i.imgur.com/11DeVYz.png

Throndor
12-14-2018, 04:48 PM
what if they're clever and have nice skin

Fret not, if youre a marginalized other, im sure theyll have a "work camp" or "education center" for you. Anyhow, they'll definitely have somewhere safe for you to "concentrate" on yourself at.

You can keep your skin nice and clean in their on-site "shower".

Anyhow, nothing you need to worry about. Im pretty sure they have a "final solution" worked out for all of this. They just need to finish swelling their ranks with "other" people to do the work for them.

Ahldagor
12-14-2018, 05:02 PM
it looks like he was cheated on.

that's not being a "cuck".

That's the definition of being cucked. What I don't get is how the marriage was allowed to happen since marriages in different states are still valid, or the elopement mentioned wasn't done through the court as a legal marriage should be. Either way two guys were cucked by that woman in the scenario.

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 05:05 PM
That's the definition of being cucked.

Like I said, I have never met a leftist who knew what the "cuck" meme is.

How you react to being cheated on determines whether or not you're a "cuck".

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 05:09 PM
Like I said, I have never met a leftist who knew what the "cuck" meme is.

How you react to being cheated on determines whether or not you're a "cuck".

https://i.imgur.com/OUwuShF.jpg

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:10 PM
That's the definition of being cucked. What I don't get is how the marriage was allowed to happen since marriages in different states are still valid, or the elopement mentioned wasn't done through the court as a legal marriage should be. Either way two guys were cucked by that woman in the scenario.

Had to respond to her petition for disolution, with an ammended petition for anullity, with a nasty bout of litigation to overturn the presumption of legitimacy.

Despite my children being a presumed product of their legitimate marraige, that didnt stop the courts from assessing child support obligations in the interim.

Technically, if HE didnt agree to sign the affidavit contesting legitimacy, the courts would have presumed him to be the father, with all obligations therewith and been within their legal right to tell me to kick rocks despite paternity tests proving otherwise.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:16 PM
Alas, its Christmas time, and the children will be with their father this Christmas Eve, so i have plenty to be thankful for this holiday season.

Merry Christmas.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 05:27 PM
i see empress worship has claimed 3 concurrent profile configs now. welcome SC

sig links to the wrong video though

here's the right one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpoAcXu65TM

what if they're clever and have nice skin

maybe use baby powder

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:32 PM
http://outerbanksbeacon.com/2017/05/friendly-persuasion-hostile-times/persuasion-chart-2/

Anyhow, no harm done. Your mind just hasn't finished maturing yet. Children generally start on the left with an exaggerated sense of fairness, and empathy. This is generally why we make them wait until they're older to be able to vote, as well as holding them accountable for their own actions.

Turns out Age isn't "just a social construction", and this thing called development is still rapidly occuring throughout childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood. After all, we are quite possibly the slowest developing mammals on the planet.

Can we move forward in agreement now? Or do you need a safe space to rage for a few minutes/days/years?

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 05:49 PM
http://outerbanksbeacon.com/2017/05/friendly-persuasion-hostile-times/persuasion-chart-2/

Anyhow, no harm done. Your mind just hasn't finished maturing yet. Children generally start on the left with an exaggerated sense of fairness, and empathy. This is generally why we make them wait until they're older to be able to vote, as well as holding them accountable for their own actions.

Turns out Age isn't "just a social construction", and this thing called development is still rapidly occuring throughout childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood. After all, we are quite possibly the slowest developing mammals on the planet.

Can we move forward in agreement now? Or do you need a safe space to rage for a few minutes/days/years?

extremely uncomfortable with you trying to imply i'm a child given your extensive knowledge of pedophilia

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:52 PM
extremely uncomfortable with you trying to imply i'm a child given your extensive knowledge of pedophilia

Note to self: we gotta get better at delivering the deathknell to these Kobolds.

I'll get you some coloring books.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:55 PM
i snatched bonkers up when he was young to the board

he's still like 14 board years old

I think i have some stuffed animals n kazoos left over from the kids' early childhood. I'll bring em in to work with me tomorrow.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 05:57 PM
hahahaha touche.

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 06:00 PM
love watching them blossom in my hand


https://imgur.com/8TE4FZ7.gif

feniin
12-14-2018, 06:13 PM
extremely uncomfortable with you trying to imply i'm a child given your extensive knowledge of pedophilia

:eek:

Ahldagor
12-14-2018, 06:23 PM
Had to respond to her petition for disolution, with an ammended petition for anullity, with a nasty bout of litigation to overturn the presumption of legitimacy.

Despite my children being a presumed product of their legitimate marraige, that didnt stop the courts from assessing child support obligations in the interim.

Technically, if HE didnt agree to sign the affidavit contesting legitimacy, the courts would have presumed him to be the father, with all obligations therewith and been within their legal right to tell me to kick rocks despite paternity tests proving otherwise.

Ah. No lawyer fees I hope. Sounds like a lot of headaches and annoyance.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 06:32 PM
Ah. No lawyer fees I hope. Sounds like a lot of headaches and annoyance.

Yeah, fortunately she isn't very smart, so I was able to do it all pro se without much of a coherent defense on her behalf, which helped quite a bit in making the hole I was in surmountable. Anyhow, recovering from the entire predicament required making a determined personal decision to own my situation. I had to stop making excuses and blaming the world for the situation I allowed myself to get into.

The irony is, some philosophers insist the world doesn't even exist, for one to blame their problems on. Ergo Cogito Sum, and all that.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 06:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/U9KaGwHm.png

hoping he goes full amish with it

Ahldagor
12-14-2018, 08:09 PM
Yeah, fortunately she isn't very smart, so I was able to do it all pro se without much of a coherent defense on her behalf, which helped quite a bit in making the hole I was in surmountable. Anyhow, recovering from the entire predicament required making a determined personal decision to own my situation. I had to stop making excuses and blaming the world for the situation I allowed myself to get into.

The irony is, some philosophers insist the world doesn't even exist, for one to blame their problems on. Ergo Cogito Sum, and all that.

Cogito Ergo Sum, and that's the basis of a lot of what you've expressed in your motivational speakings. Heidegger disproved it in his essay "The Origin of the Work of Art."

Ahldagor
12-14-2018, 08:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/U9KaGwHm.png

hoping he goes full amish with it

Still looks like a rat.

Throndor
12-14-2018, 08:20 PM
Cogito Ergo Sum, and that's the basis of a lot of what you've expressed in your motivational speakings. Heidegger disproved it in his essay "The Origin of the Work of Art."

Youre right. That doesnt change the fact that solipsism is the basis by which all philosophies must overcome the cartesian dilemna.

First, we have to agree that this plane exists, and that "we" exist, not just "I". Everything else stems from the fact that you and i agree that we are both thinking things independent of each other, and not mere projections of the self.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 08:25 PM
nope, never.

what if its a lady Nazi?

Throndor
12-14-2018, 08:30 PM
When im pissing down your back, while telling you its raining...that hesitation to accept the reality im attempting to impose on your mind is what the left calls "cognitive dissonance". Thats you Id's in-built bullshit-o-meter.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 08:37 PM
When im pissing down your back, while telling you its raining...that hesitation to accept the reality im attempting to impose on your mind is what the left calls "cognitive dissonance". Thats you Id's in-built bullshit-o-meter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQijskAMp4

Throndor
12-14-2018, 08:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQijskAMp4

Ikr. It would be really nice if we were all so easily persuadable to work against our best interests, for yours.

Wonkie
12-14-2018, 08:51 PM
Ikr. It would be really nice if we were all so easily persuadable to work against our best interests, for yours.

shutup

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 08:52 PM
Looks less like an alien pedophile and more like a ram ranch stud

Ram Ranch is pretty nice.

It's in Colorado, right?

Think I went there with my dad.

misterbonkers
12-14-2018, 08:58 PM
what if its a lady Nazi?

not comfortable with intergender violence, leave that to the lady comrades

When im pissing down your back, while telling you its raining...that hesitation to accept the reality im attempting to impose on your mind is what the left calls "cognitive dissonance". Thats you Id's in-built bullshit-o-meter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REx6tAk-rok

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 10:39 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men)

ScaringChildren
12-14-2018, 11:07 PM
Free Speech wins again! (https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-college-district-abolishes-free-speech-zones-as-part-of-lawsuit-settlement)

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 12:03 AM
a good albeit long watch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ)

Mead
12-15-2018, 12:27 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men)

who is this offending besides loramin

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 09:46 AM
a good albeit long watch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ)

Antifa is only a good force when there are actually fascists in control.

When there are no fascists to eat, Antifa attacks random people. Even a Bernie Sanders supporter. (https://youtu.be/w35KLdiRbmc)

Something tells me when real fascists are marching through the streets executing undesirables, Antifa won't do shit because there probably won't be an Instagram where they can post sweet selfies of themselves 'Bashin the Fash'.

Real fascists give them a bullet to the back of the head and throw them in a mass grave.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 09:49 AM
who is this offending besides loramin

I miss that idiot.

Wish he'd come back to the dark side of the forums.

Ahldagor
12-15-2018, 11:22 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men)

Ever dated someone with borderline personality disorder?

Irulan
12-15-2018, 11:26 AM
Women value friends more than fucks. Maybe. I guess?

I value neither. I don't mind fucking with losers though, because I am not in it to ruin a neckbeards life.

Irulan
12-15-2018, 11:32 AM
Antifa is only a good force when there are actually fascists in control.

When there are no fascists to eat, Antifa attacks random people. Even a Bernie Sanders supporter. (https://youtu.be/w35KLdiRbmc)

Something tells me when real fascists are marching through the streets executing undesirables, Antifa won't do shit because there probably won't be an Instagram where they can post sweet selfies of themselves 'Bashin the Fash'.

Real fascists give them a bullet to the back of the head and throw them in a mass grave.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 11:45 AM
Antifa is only a good force when there are actually fascists in control.

When there are no fascists to eat, Antifa attacks random people. Even a Bernie Sanders supporter. (https://youtu.be/w35KLdiRbmc)

Something tells me when real fascists are marching through the streets executing undesirables, Antifa won't do shit because there probably won't be an Instagram where they can post sweet selfies of themselves 'Bashin the Fash'.

Real fascists give them a bullet to the back of the head and throw them in a mass grave.

when fascists are in control, it's already too late. see nazi germany in the 1940s. antifa seeks to stop it before it starts. supporting bernie sanders doesn't exempt you from being fascist. especially when you're carrying a flag at a fascist rally. we've been over this. and these false equivalencies and non-arguments you make for fascism are covered in said video.

hope this helps.

Irulan
12-15-2018, 11:58 AM
Vigilantism. I'll leave that to the fighters, warriors. To those who derive a sense of wellbeing or purpose from it.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 12:11 PM
when fascists are in control, it's already too late. see nazi germany in the 1940s. antifa seeks to stop it before it starts. supporting bernie sanders doesn't exempt you from being fascist. especially when you're carrying a flag at a fascist rally. we've been over this. and these false equivalencies and non-arguments you make for fascism are covered in said video.

hope this helps.

So because you think someone is in the process of becoming a fascist, you punish them the same way you would an actual genocidal fascist?

What if they evolve into something else entirely?

Are you really so confident on how a person becomes a genocidal maniac?

By your same logic we should lock up every black male before they turn 18.

You could argue that any conservative is a future Nazi or any leftist is a future Communist.

Should we imprison leftists for speaking about wealth inequality because they're starting to sound like Communists?

Have you not seen Minority Report before?

Also, these actions are all being carried out by a mob, without leadership. Mobs are incredibly unreliable and stupid. I'm actually amazed Antifa hasn't accused itself of being fascist.

An American flag is a fascist symbol now? Really?

What do you think Antifa is fighting for? Are they not fighting for the US?

Can leftists not carry American flags? Are they not allowed to show support for their country?

It amazes me that anyone supports Antifa at this time.

If you really think fascism is a problem, Antifa isn't the solution. At least not now. If anything, it's going to push us further into fascism.

For fuck sake, Antifa was blamed for the Reichstag Fire and pushed people to give the Nazis power in Germany.

So if anyone needs to learn history, it's Antifa.

Irulan
12-15-2018, 12:19 PM
Antifa is radicalizing and harming people on both sides who would otherwise develop and empower people. Instead it's urging people to martyrdom. Violence. And terrorism. It's no better than any right wing white nationalist group.

Work towards a better world and create charities or non denominational churches or become a lawyer...

Or throw rocks, bottles, get arrested.

Which seems like a more effective way of preventing fascism?

Irulan
12-15-2018, 12:22 PM
Anyway Fascism. Feudalism. Was ended by rich well educated Mercantile people who could afford to pay armies and mercenaries. Not poor millennials who just throw rocks.

Irulan
12-15-2018, 12:25 PM
If you want to prevent Fascism stop wasting all your money and time at Starbucks and your hipster hangouts. Go learn to shoot. Get fit. Invest in an herb garden. Save your money and get big one day on the coattails of a young genuis like Bill Gates.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 12:26 PM
A person with potentially racist or fascist views can be diffused.

If you attack them in streets, you're not going to convince them to change their ways. You're going to reinforce their beliefs.

A lot of extremists on the left and right make fun of this tactic, but it absolutely works (https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes).

Irulan
12-15-2018, 12:28 PM
I'm pissed at the left right now. Especially for radicalizing me and wasting a solid 3yrs of my life.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 12:53 PM
nice gish gallop

lots of false equivalences, but i'll break it down one by one

So because you think someone is in the process of becoming a fascist, you punish them the same way you would an actual genocidal fascist?

you don't take antifascist action against someone who is "in the process of becoming", they already are if they're performing fascist actions.

What if they evolve into something else entirely?

if they change their mind of fascism, you buy em a beer, and make a friend

Are you really so confident on how a person becomes a genocidal maniac?

yes, we have historical proof to show us.

By your same logic we should lock up every black male before they turn 18.

the claim that black male violence is on par with systematic violent removal of undesirables is telling

You could argue that any conservative is a future Nazi or any leftist is a future Communist.

yeah, they could be. that's what radicalization is. they could also change their mind. which is the goal. fascism is a choice.

Should we imprison leftists for speaking about wealth inequality because they're starting to sound like Communists?

nope. there's no crime in believing inequality is an issue and that a system that allows that inequality is bad.

Have you not seen Minority Report before?

i have, one of my favorite movies. wanted those 2 finger gloves as a teen.

Also, these actions are all being carried out by a mob, without leadership. Mobs are incredibly unreliable and stupid. I'm actually amazed Antifa hasn't accused itself of being fascist.

antifa isn't a group. it's localized, unorganized, but united in purpose.

An American flag is a fascist symbol now? Really?

like a stalker saying "i love you" every 10 mins, the content of the message nor the act of the message is the problem. it's the effect of the context that matters. the flag isn't the issue. it's the effect him holding that flag at a fascist rally that matters.

What do you think Antifa is fighting for? Are they not fighting for the US?

they're fighting against fascism, as implied by the name

Can leftists not carry American flags? Are they not allowed to show support for their country?

moot non-argument followup to an argument already covered two points above

It amazes me that anyone supports Antifa at this time.

it's a response and counter to fascism. if fascism didn't exist, neither would antifa.

If you really think fascism is a problem, Antifa isn't the solution. At least not now. If anything, it's going to push us further into fascism.

sure, people already on the brink of fascist sympathy might be the straw that breaks the camel back, but if you force them back into hiding, you attempt to stop them from capitalizing on it.

For fuck sake, Antifa was blamed for the Reichstag Fire and pushed people to give the Nazis power in Germany.

false flag is a tough thing to overcome, can't really be avoided, but it doesn't mean you should do nothing.

So if anyone needs to learn history, it's Antifa.

see point above

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 12:54 PM
Trump sings Slayer (https://youtu.be/QT4D8xKiL8o)

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 12:55 PM
A non-political video (https://youtu.be/3SQ9voOb28U)

Ahldagor
12-15-2018, 12:57 PM
militarizing the opposition to the machine that's building us our post-scarcity because of some unhinged and unrealistic fear of nazism imminently claiming the US is retard stuff. Escalating your real life political-aesthetic LARPing to violence is gay.

You are hardening lonely kids who took the frogpill to violence; you are hardening yourselves to violence. You are gross in this. Literally all we are seeing is chan culture manifest in real life. If you're actually freaking out about the prospect of goose-stepping Whites taking over (lol) then teach these kids how to meme, not how to build acid bombs.

Just wait 40 more years dude. Don't get me dragged out of my car and raped in some very temporary breakdown of law and order in my "politically engaged" city of teen LARPers.

As for socialism: this nerd says in the video that capitalism uses the threat of poverty and starvation for coercive/violent enforcement to make one work. lol. It's nature/God who does that. How does it not make you cringe to hear your fellow-travelers literally blame capitalism for human mortality? Our robots will kill Christ soon enough and human intellectual product and sexuality will be the final things to market; it will be fucking awesome. Chill with the training up young terrorists if you want to live to see it.

The two factions are

those who want to see the long road through
those who want to burn it down and rut with their fetishized comrade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKvbd6iHwGQ)-girl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J__ZdvsZaE)in the mud


Option two is winning on both sides because it's more marketable. Patience is damn near non existent in kids today, and convienance is still championed. No wonder we're a lazy nation.

Throndor
12-15-2018, 01:36 PM
If you want to prevent Fascism stop wasting all your money and time at Starbucks and your hipster hangouts. Go learn to shoot. Get fit. Invest in an herb garden. Save your money and get big one day on the coattails of a young genuis like Bill Gates.

If they did that, they would mature in the process, and outgrow their childish mentality therefore resolving their own dilemna.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 01:37 PM
If they did that, they would mature in the process, and outgrow their childish mentality therefore resolving their own dilemna.

what's your thoughts on avocado toast, mr. p man

Throndor
12-15-2018, 01:40 PM
what's your thoughts on avocado toast, mr. p man

Im pretty proud of all you guys for carrying on a cogent discussion in my stead while i was out charming the sweet sweet babes at my company christmas party last night. About time you all evolved the conversation into an intelligent discussion.

Cheers

Throndor
12-15-2018, 01:42 PM
My girl wore a black cocktail dress with thigh high sailor moon bowed stockings last night. Shit was hot as fuck. Still drunk. Still reeling.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 01:44 PM
nice gish gallop

lots of false equivalences, but i'll break it down one by one

It's really not, I'm making one basic point throughout my comment. You're just not used to having your ideology challenged.

you don't take antifascist action against someone who is "in the process of becoming", they already are if they're performing fascist actions.

Antifa attacks people who support freedom of speech. I wasn't aware that was a 'fascist' stance. These are people who have demonstrated in support of freedom of speech when a 2nd wave leftist feminist was deplatformed by Antifa.

They're not even close to being fascists.

if they change their mind of fascism, you buy em a beer, and make a friend

Yeah? You do that after you bash them over the head with a baseball bat, sending them to the hospital? How often does that work?

yes, we have historical proof to show us.

I've never seen center-left people who support freedom of speech and expression become hard right genocidal fascists. Which period of history did that happen? I must've missed that.

the claim that black male violence is on par with systematic violent removal of undesirables is telling

I'm not even surprised you missed the analogy there. If you understood it, you probably wouldn't support Antifa.

yeah, they could be. that's what radicalization is. they could also change their mind. which is the goal. fascism is a choice.

So at what point do you start attacking people? You support attacking people to prevent fascism, so when do you start? If someone advocates for lower taxes?

nope. there's no crime in believing inequality is an issue and that a system that allows that inequality is bad.

Do you seriously not understand this analogy? I'm trying to show you how it would be if the shoe was on the other foot.

i have, one of my favorite movies. wanted those 2 finger gloves as a teen.

Watch it again. There's a lesson to learn.

antifa isn't a group. it's localized, unorganized, but united in purpose.

Yeah, not a group of people who wear red and black, with a logo and a shared purpose. Sorry, not a group.

like a stalker saying "i love you" every 10 mins, the content of the message nor the act of the message is the problem. it's the effect of the context that matters. the flag isn't the issue. it's the effect him holding that flag at a fascist rally that matters.

Because individualism doesn't matter. Nuance doesn't exist. Right?

they're fighting against fascism, as implied by the name

No, they're attacking random people all with individual political beliefs. If the mob attacks, it is done without question.

moot non-argument followup to an argument already covered two points above

Yep, you covered it. "Fellow leftists fall in line or else you get attacked".

it's a response and counter to fascism. if fascism didn't exist, neither would antifa.

You know what 'delusion' is, right? If fascism existed in the US, you wouldn't be able to demonstrate against it without being jailed/hunted down and killed.

sure, people already on the brink of fascist sympathy might be the straw that breaks the camel back, but if you force them back into hiding, you attempt to stop them from capitalizing on it.

Well this study says you're wrong. (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/05/new-study-shows-riots-make-america-conservative.html) Not only will you not convince fascists, you turn normal citizens against you with your violence. Because you are the only ones who perceive there is danger. Everyone else does not believe we live in a dictatorship.

false flag is a tough thing to overcome, can't really be avoided, but it doesn't mean you should do nothing.

I'm not trusting the Nazis with telling the truth. It very well may have been a false flag.

What is true however, is that Antifa and the fascists were fighting in the streets leading up to that point and the citizens were tired of it. As the study I linked shows, they typically turn towards someone who offers a solution to the chaos.

see point above

You didn't convince me.

Cecily
12-15-2018, 01:50 PM
It's really not, I'm making one basic point throughout my comment. You're just not used to having your ideology challenged.



Antifa attacks people who support freedom of speech. I wasn't aware that was a 'fascist' stance. These are people who have demonstrated in support of freedom of speech when a 2nd wave leftist feminist was deplatformed by Antifa.

They're not even close to being fascists.



Yeah? You do that after you bash them over the head with a baseball bat, sending them to the hospital? How often does that work?



I've never seen center-left people who support freedom of speech and expression become hard right genocidal fascists. Which period of history did that happen? I must've missed that.



I'm not even surprised you missed the analogy there. If you understood it, you probably wouldn't support Antifa.



So at what point do you start attacking people? You support attacking people to prevent fascism, so when do you start? If someone advocates for lower taxes?



Do you seriously not understand this analogy? I'm trying to show you how it would be if the shoe was on the other foot.



Watch it again. There's a lesson to learn.



Yeah, not a group of people who wear red and black, with a logo and a shared purpose. Sorry, not a group.



Because individualism doesn't matter. Nuance doesn't exist. Right?



No, they're attacking random people all with individual political beliefs. If the mob attacks, it is done without question.



Yep, you covered it. "Fellow leftists fall in line or else you get attacked".



You know what 'delusion' is, right? If fascism existed in the US, you wouldn't be able to demonstrate against it without being jailed/hunted down and killed.



Well this study says you're wrong. (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/05/new-study-shows-riots-make-america-conservative.html) Not only will you not convince fascists, you turn normal citizens against you with your violence. Because you are the only ones who perceive there is danger. Everyone else does not believe we live in a dictatorship.



I'm not trusting the Nazis with telling the truth. It very well may have been a false flag.

What is true however, is that Antifa and the fascists were fighting in the streets leading up to that point and the citizens were tired of it. As the study I linked shows, they typically turn towards someone who offers a solution to the chaos.



You didn't convince me.

Quoted for emphasis.

Throndor
12-15-2018, 01:50 PM
When ceasar squashed democracy, the people thanked him for it, and the republic was never a republic again.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 02:19 PM
Im pretty proud of all you guys for carrying on a cogent discussion in my stead while i was out charming the sweet sweet babes at my company christmas party last night. About time you all evolved the conversation into an intelligent discussion.

Cheers

that's not an opinion on avocado toast

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 02:22 PM
not giving the fascists everything they want forces them to do fascism, which is your fault

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 02:27 PM
I've never seen center-left people who support freedom of speech and expression become hard right genocidal fascists. Which period of history did that happen? I must've missed that.


mick

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 02:49 PM
not giving the fascists everything they want forces them to do fascism, which is your fault

No, it's the fascists' fault if they rise up and become tyrannical.

You're victim blaming.

I'll agree somewhat in the way that we need to be mindful of what makes extremism attractive and take care to meet those needs in a reasonable way.

For example, conservatives (and leftists) should be concerned with wealth inequality because it can create extremists, and address those issues before an extreme group becomes the only solution.

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 02:56 PM
No, it's the fascists' fault if they rise up and become tyrannical.

You're victim blaming.

I'll agree somewhat in the way that we need to be mindful of what makes extremism attractive and take care to meet those needs in a reasonable way.

For example, conservatives (and leftists) should be concerned with wealth inequality because it can create extremists, and address those issues before an extreme group becomes the only solution.

ethnic cleansing is never the solution

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 03:05 PM
you clearly know who is being called a fascist btw stop trolling
Semantics??

Lol dude that is the defining piece of "alt-right".

"alt-right" has become "someone who believes in the White ethnostate".

I don't believe in that, so I'm not Alt-Right.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 03:16 PM
ethnic cleansing is never the solution

Do you think people just wake up and want to ethnically cleanse?

Something motivates them.

Have you ever thought why fascism rose to power in places like Germany, Italy, etc?

There are reasons people embrace and support extremist views.

I know you want to just see them as "evil", but that's lazy.

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 03:20 PM
Do you think people just wake up and want to ethnically cleanse?

Something motivates them.

Have you ever thought why fascism rose to power in places like Germany, Italy, etc?

There are reasons people embrace and support extremist views.

I know you want to just see them as "evil", but that's lazy.

galaxy brain: truly the opponents of ethnic cleansing are ultimately responsible for it.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 03:25 PM
you clearly know who is being called a fascist btw stop trolling

I'm not saying everyone that Antifa targets is innocent.

There were many legitimate fascist groups in Charlottesville and they've fought the "Traditionalist Worker's Party" in California as well.

However, those instances are the exception rather than the rule.

Antifa surrounded this leftist politician, who supported free speech, in Boston for example. (https://youtu.be/q9X2ZRB9GCU)

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 03:30 PM
galaxy brain: truly the opponents of ethnic cleansing are ultimately responsible for it.

Lol wow, nice strawman, bud.

What I was actually saying is that people are attracted to extreme causes (that can eventually lead to ethnic cleansing) and we need to fill that need before an extreme group has the chance to.

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 03:33 PM
I'm not saying everyone that Antifa targets is innocent.

There were many legitimate fascist groups in Charlottesville and they've fought the "Traditionalist Worker's Party" in California as well.

However, those instances are the exception rather than the rule.

Antifa surrounded this leftist politician, who supported free speech, in Boston for example. (https://youtu.be/q9X2ZRB9GCU)

poor choice to associate with fascists. clearly they were no angel and smelled like marijuana. authorities did nothing wrong it was a good punch.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 03:41 PM
poor choice to associate with fascists. clearly they were no angel and smelled like marijuana. authorities did nothing wrong it was a good punch.

There were no fascists at the Boston rally.

It was like a week after Charlottesville.

Also, if you're demanding people to associate with who you find acceptable you start sounding like the authoritarian in this situation.

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 03:44 PM
There were no fascists at the Boston rally.

It was like a week after Charlottesville.

Also, if you're demanding people to associate with who you find acceptable you start sounding like the authoritarian in this situation.

*the sound of whooshing*

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 03:50 PM
*the sound of whooshing*

I know you're trying to fuck with me, but I'm in serious mode.

I have 6.2 minutes until this buff fades.

Throndor
12-15-2018, 04:00 PM
Ugh. Im too hungover for seriousness today. Last night, the owner's wife had to call an uber for my petite asian manager, after it became fairly obvious that she was hammered by the fact that she was literally hanging on my belt loop. Yes, right in front of my gf as well.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 04:02 PM
who is this offending besides loramin

this got a huge pop out of me last night and coming back to it, it still gets me

mickmoranis
12-15-2018, 04:02 PM
poor choice to associate with fascists. clearly they were no angel and smelled like marijuana. authorities did nothing wrong it was a good punch.

"Poor choice to associate with witches, burn them all" wonkie's great great grandfather proclaimed.

mickmoranis
12-15-2018, 04:06 PM
mick

lol ur trying to burn witches wtf you expect if the fascists of the one that that aren't attacking innocent people, then sign me up.

I promise you there is a flip happening just like there was with LBJ and in 10 years the Democrats will be the Republicans and the Republicans will be the Democrats.

Zeig heil Trump!

Wonkie
12-15-2018, 04:13 PM
lol ur trying to burn witches wtf you expect if the fascists of the one that that aren't attacking innocent people, then sign me up.



ill grant you they arent as bad as the police i guess

:cool:

Irulan
12-15-2018, 06:34 PM
My take on avacado toast.

It's pretty good. Right now I'm cutting and growing muscles so I went for cottage cheese and carrots.

I'm trying to cut carbs and sugars and the nerds I live with think baked ziti with parmesan is paleo.

Throndor
12-15-2018, 07:06 PM
My take on avacado toast.

It's pretty good. Right now I'm cutting and growing muscles so I went for cottage cheese and carrots.

I'm trying to cut carbs and sugars and the nerds I live with think baked ziti with parmesan is paleo.


Not bad. Crab Stuffed mushrooms are keto friendly as well if you dont use breadcrumbs as filler. I also like to get down on liver for the iron, o negative and all. Goes well with burnt cabbage and its generally cheap af.

If you absolutely must go with carbs from time to time, get semolina flour n eggs n make ur pasta by hand. So much better, and its not full of nitrates from preservatives n shit. You can reinforce this with keto friendly pasta sauce made from a no sugar added tomato sauce with a few spices. Recipes online are pretty clear cut although i put a ton of garlic in mine because ive never heard of a recipe that calls for 1 clove of garlic, unless its a recipe for "how to cook one clove of garlic" and even then you should use 2, just in case.

Cheapest way to meet the .85g/protein per lb bw is drinking a gallon of milk/day if ur building mass on a budget.

Its 128g/protein per gallon with whole milk. You add 1 chicken breast to that and ur set for your protein and caloric needs for the entire day. The sugar intake will exceed the ketosis threshhold though, but if your putting down 2500calories with 16% bf at 6'2" 205 like me, it doesnt even matter. I dont keto often, but i generally try to go 6
50/30/20 p/f/c or even 60/30/10 but thats difficult to do without expensive protein powders. If you do protein powder, always go whey isolate, preferably grass fed

Irulan
12-15-2018, 07:27 PM
Ya. I will look into making homemade pasta to keep the pplz happy. I use a ton of garlic too :)

I struggle to eat 2200 kcal. I average 1230 a day. Fat rich foods are good. Im a big fan of fish. I started supplementing with protein shakes again and I am starting to feel a lot better.

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 07:31 PM
mr. p still won't give his avocado toast opinion

this saddens me

Throndor
12-15-2018, 07:31 PM
Yeah fish is clean af. Big fan of halibut, but ill get down on pretty much any seafood.


I really like pairing seafood with the french sauces.

Beurre blanc goes with pretty much any white fish
Hollandaise really good with salmon
Bechamel sauce is fairly versatile as well, to hell with the old adage of never dairy with seafood.

Jumbo scallops over a beurre blanc with a cilantro and garlic grematola is to die for with a cucumber avocado n tomato basil tossup on the side. Zero carbs. Pure heaven.

Irulan
12-15-2018, 07:39 PM
what's your thoughts on avocado toast, mr. p man

Yeah fish is clean af. Big fan of halibut, but ill get down on pretty much any seafood.


I really like pairing seafood with the french sauces.

Beurre blanc goes with pretty much any white fish
Hollandaise really good with salmon
Bechamel sauce is fairly versatile as well, to hell with the old adage of never dairy with seafood.

Jumbo scallops over a beurre blanc with a cilantro and garlic grematola is to die for with a cucumber avocado n tomato basil tossup on the side. Zero carbs. Pure heaven.
:D

Throndor
12-15-2018, 07:44 PM
Im more dairy-centric than avocado-centric but i like avocado too, so maybe ill give the avocado toast a whirl

U ever do deviled eggs whipped up with avocado as well!?

Irulan
12-15-2018, 08:17 PM
Im more dairy-centric than avocado-centric but i like avocado too, so maybe ill give the avocado toast a whirl

U ever do deviled eggs whipped up with avocado as well!?

That sounds good. Nope. I'm ok with dairy so its a staple for me.

Domo
12-15-2018, 08:33 PM
dont want to interrupt your political battle here, but anyone mind to give me some kind of neutral/objectively assessment whats going to happen next with Trump?

As far I understand there is proof (now) that Trump committed 1 or more crimes right? (lying about the hush money or something like that?)

Anyway, what are the most likely scenario to happen next?

Will Trump or the GOP go to court against these accusations?
Will Trump resign to avoid a punishment?
Will a impeachment procedures start?
Will this "he said, she said bullshit" keep going on TV and twitter?
Is it maybe just a "small" crime which dosent matter?

Or maybe something else?

I know its a tough question since something like this dont happen every day, but maybe here is someone who follow this whole story without to many emotion and have a answer/opinion to this.

(sorry about my english, and sorry if I trigged someone with this question)

Irulan
12-15-2018, 08:36 PM
Probably after he's finished his term(s) at the state level.

Hesaidshesaid is the new norm. Maybe there will be a motion to impeach, but it won't likely pass.

Remember Trump is the victim here.

ScaringChildren
12-15-2018, 08:51 PM
dont want to interrupt your political battle here, but anyone mind to give me some kind of neutral/objectively assessment whats going to happen next with Trump?

As far I understand there is proof (now) that Trump committed 1 or more crimes right? (lying about the hush money or something like that?)

Anyway, what are the most likely scenario to happen next?

Will Trump or the GOP go to court against these accusations?
Will Trump resign to avoid a punishment?
Will a impeachment procedures start?
Will this "he said, she said bullshit" keep going on TV and twitter?
Is it maybe just a "small" crime which dosent matter?

Or maybe something else?

I know its a tough question since something like this dont happen every day, but maybe here is someone who follow this whole story without to many emotion and have a answer/opinion to this.

(sorry about my english, and sorry if I trigged someone with this question)

We honestly don't know.

There's speculation that the investigators have more evidence than just Cohen's word alone, but it's just speculation at this point.

The fact that they're also looking into inauguration spending probably means they want stronger evidence.

If they find evidence, the GOP will argue that campaign finance issues are common and not that big of a deal.

Democrats will try to impeach but the GOP Senate will stop it in their tracks.

Probably the worse thing that'll happen to Trump is that he won't run for a 2nd term. Especially if the economy goes to shit, which it looks like it will.

Ahldagor
12-15-2018, 09:42 PM
We honestly don't know.

There's speculation that the investigators have more evidence than just Cohen's word alone, but it's just speculation at this point.

The fact that they're also looking into inauguration spending probably means they want stronger evidence.

If they find evidence, the GOP will argue that campaign finance issues are common and not that big of a deal.

Democrats will try to impeach but the GOP Senate will stop it in their tracks.

Probably the worse thing that'll happen to Trump is that he won't run for a 2nd term. Especially if the economy goes to shit, which it looks like it will.

Trump's CFO of his company got immunity immediately which usually means they sang like a canary and that's what we don't know. That could be a link for the campaign finance investigation tho'. Lots of speculation, but the smoke is thickening which usually isn't a good thing when the feds are investigating you. Almkst like Nixon all over again.

I think you're right in the GOP dismissal angle of it not being a big deal regarding the campaign finance stuff.

Throndor
12-15-2018, 10:05 PM
dont want to interrupt your political battle here, but anyone mind to give me some kind of neutral/objectively assessment whats going to happen next with Trump?

As far I understand there is proof (now) that Trump committed 1 or more crimes right? (lying about the hush money or something like that?)

Anyway, what are the most likely scenario to happen next?

Will Trump or the GOP go to court against these accusations?
Will Trump resign to avoid a punishment?
Will a impeachment procedures start?
Will this "he said, she said bullshit" keep going on TV and twitter?
Is it maybe just a "small" crime which dosent matter?

Or maybe something else?

I know its a tough question since something like this dont happen every day, but maybe here is someone who follow this whole story without to many emotion and have a answer/opinion to this.

(sorry about my english, and sorry if I trigged someone with this question)

King Ecgbert of North Umbria will eat ice cream

misterbonkers
12-15-2018, 10:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9GJ2VZ9.jpg

mickmoranis
12-15-2018, 11:56 PM
dont want to interrupt your political battle here, but anyone mind to give me some kind of neutral/objectively assessment whats going to happen next with Trump?

As far I understand there is proof (now) that Trump committed 1 or more crimes right? (lying about the hush money or something like that?)

Anyway, what are the most likely scenario to happen next?

Will Trump or the GOP go to court against these accusations?
Will Trump resign to avoid a punishment?
Will a impeachment procedures start?
Will this "he said, she said bullshit" keep going on TV and twitter?
Is it maybe just a "small" crime which dosent matter?

Or maybe something else?

I know its a tough question since something like this dont happen every day, but maybe here is someone who follow this whole story without to many emotion and have a answer/opinion to this.

(sorry about my english, and sorry if I trigged someone with this question)

the investigation is being done to either

a. if they're lucky they get him on something legit and they can legitimately impeach him from office
b. worst case scenario they can create an 'his emails' campaign to aid in defeating him in 2020

bold strategy lets see how it plays out for em

mickmoranis
12-15-2018, 11:59 PM
Probably the worse thing that'll happen to Trump is that he won't run for a 2nd term. Especially if the economy goes to shit, which it looks like it will.

lol imagine if that did happen though how funny it is big picture. Dude gets elected, calls everyone fat, gets off scott free, doesn't even run cus hes over it, makes a billion dollars in russia.

meanwhile america in worst recession since the 70s

lol would be hilarious

Throndor
12-16-2018, 12:10 AM
Well, its fairly obvious by his support of SA that hes come into the fold with the shadow govt at this point. Sure, theyre letting him have a token win here n there, but theyre also creating a countercurrent narrative with leftist resentment so as to strengthen their own position.
Thats what the honduran fiasco last month was all about.

Still feel the best course of action is to vote out all incumbents on both sides of the aisle and vote in Ecgberts until better options develop.

At this point, the left is mostly is interested in drumming native support by controlling the narrative until they can set up permanent majority demographics utilizing the sub 80iq persons.

Once they win on that front, its venezuela 2.0, and the american experiment is erased from the annals of history, as is likely with the european race.

Theyve already won in europe where the muzzies are free to challenge an unarmed 50% weakling female police force to a trial by combat that the cops have to win before they can make an arrest on top of receiving subsidized sentencing even if they do lose the fight.

All the while vehemently throttling any attempt to derail the disaster by holding native europeans to a strict and heightened letter of the law aimed to immasculate and destroy any sense of the nuclear family (unless of course its a nuclear muzzie family, then by all means carry on with the "oppression" since they dont "know any better".)

But what do i know, im just a racist for calling it as it is. Seems the globalists have decided that the religiously supported sociopolitical system of islam is the most effective all encompassing control mechanism for the peons. Cheers to womens and homosexual rights while they lasted. It was a good run folks.

Is it east towards mecca, or west, when on the west coast?

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 12:41 AM
scared bonkers off twitch lol

feniin
12-16-2018, 10:05 AM
Well, its fairly obvious by his support of SA that hes come into the fold with the shadow govt at this point. Sure, theyre letting him have a token win here n there, but theyre also creating a countercurrent narrative with leftist resentment so as to strengthen their own position.
Thats what the honduran fiasco last month was all about.

Still feel the best course of action is to vote out all incumbents on both sides of the aisle and vote in Ecgberts until better options develop.

At this point, the left is mostly is interested in drumming native support by controlling the narrative until they can set up permanent majority demographics utilizing the sub 80iq persons.

Once they win on that front, its venezuela 2.0, and the american experiment is erased from the annals of history, as is likely with the european race.

Theyve already won in europe where the muzzies are free to challenge an unarmed 50% weakling female police force to a trial by combat that the cops have to win before they can make an arrest on top of receiving subsidized sentencing even if they do lose the fight.

All the while vehemently throttling any attempt to derail the disaster by holding native europeans to a strict and heightened letter of the law aimed to immasculate and destroy any sense of the nuclear family (unless of course its a nuclear muzzie family, then by all means carry on with the "oppression" since they dont "know any better".)

But what do i know, im just a racist for calling it as it is. Seems the globalists have decided that the religiously supported sociopolitical system of islam is the most effective all encompassing control mechanism for the peons. Cheers to womens and homosexual rights while they lasted. It was a good run folks.

Is it east towards mecca, or west, when on the west coast?

You do realize that islamophobia is bigotry, right?

Irulan
12-16-2018, 10:18 AM
Well, its fairly obvious by his support of SA that hes come into the fold with the shadow govt at this point. Sure, theyre letting him have a token win here n there, but theyre also creating a countercurrent narrative with leftist resentment so as to strengthen their own position.
Thats what the honduran fiasco last month was all about.

Still feel the best course of action is to vote out all incumbents on both sides of the aisle and vote in Ecgberts until better options develop.

At this point, the left is mostly is interested in drumming native support by controlling the narrative until they can set up permanent majority demographics utilizing the sub 80iq persons.

Once they win on that front, its venezuela 2.0, and the american experiment is erased from the annals of history, as is likely with the european race.

Theyve already won in europe where the muzzies are free to challenge an unarmed 50% weakling female police force to a trial by combat that the cops have to win before they can make an arrest on top of receiving subsidized sentencing even if they do lose the fight.

All the while vehemently throttling any attempt to derail the disaster by holding native europeans to a strict and heightened letter of the law aimed to immasculate and destroy any sense of the nuclear family (unless of course its a nuclear muzzie family, then by all means carry on with the "oppression" since they dont "know any better".)

But what do i know, im just a racist for calling it as it is. Seems the globalists have decided that the religiously supported sociopolitical system of islam is the most effective all encompassing control mechanism for the peons. Cheers to womens and homosexual rights while they lasted. It was a good run folks.

Is it east towards mecca, or west, when on the west coast?

I think it's always east. They often screw up magnetic north and the curvature of the earth though and are often praying more towards London and Moscow if on the east coast. No idea where their feelings end up if they're on the west coast.

Irulan
12-16-2018, 10:19 AM
scared bonkers off twitch lol
That's sad. He's a sweet guy and abusing him isn't going to make the world a better place. :(

Ahldagor
12-16-2018, 11:02 AM
Well, its fairly obvious by his support of SA that hes come into the fold with the shadow govt at this point. Sure, theyre letting him have a token win here n there, but theyre also creating a countercurrent narrative with leftist resentment so as to strengthen their own position.
Thats what the honduran fiasco last month was all about.

Still feel the best course of action is to vote out all incumbents on both sides of the aisle and vote in Ecgberts until better options develop.

At this point, the left is mostly is interested in drumming native support by controlling the narrative until they can set up permanent majority demographics utilizing the sub 80iq persons.

Once they win on that front, its venezuela 2.0, and the american experiment is erased from the annals of history, as is likely with the european race.

Theyve already won in europe where the muzzies are free to challenge an unarmed 50% weakling female police force to a trial by combat that the cops have to win before they can make an arrest on top of receiving subsidized sentencing even if they do lose the fight.

All the while vehemently throttling any attempt to derail the disaster by holding native europeans to a strict and heightened letter of the law aimed to immasculate and destroy any sense of the nuclear family (unless of course its a nuclear muzzie family, then by all means carry on with the "oppression" since they dont "know any better".)

But what do i know, im just a racist for calling it as it is. Seems the globalists have decided that the religiously supported sociopolitical system of islam is the most effective all encompassing control mechanism for the peons. Cheers to womens and homosexual rights while they lasted. It was a good run folks.

Is it east towards mecca, or west, when on the west coast?

Nice 4chan pasta, but you over cooked it.

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 12:09 PM
You do realize that islamophobia is bigotry, right?

What's your opinion on the Battle of Tours?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 12:19 PM
You do realize that islamophobia is bigotry, right?

Worse things happen than a little bigotry. Thought crime of the millennia?

feniin
12-16-2018, 12:21 PM
Worse things happen than a little bigotry. Thought crime of the millennia?

I'm not sure there's anything worse than blind hatred. It's the fuel behind everything else.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 12:31 PM
Fenin you have that same hatred for white culture GTFO with your crocodile tears

feniin
12-16-2018, 12:37 PM
Fenin you have that same hatred for white culture GTFO with your crocodile tears

lol you are such a sad little person.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 12:39 PM
https://youtu.be/gr7d1sTDNts

Is equivelent to not baking someone a cake for their gay wedding. Liberal equivelency.

feniin
12-16-2018, 12:41 PM
Fenin you have that same hatred for white culture GTFO with your crocodile tears

Can you describe white culture?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 12:44 PM
Can you describe white culture?

Please be more specific. Theres a lot of variation between european cultures racist.

Irulan
12-16-2018, 12:46 PM
Having come from further afield of "hatred" than where Throndor is. It's safe to say it's not blind hatred. Labeling it that dilutes your position.

I strongly prefer a secular government myself. That doesn't mean I want to burn all mosques and churches and stop kids from having a bible study class.

I do think politics are having a corrupting influence in religion because politicians on both sides are getting involved in this debate trying to limit freedom of association and limit people's individual rights to free speech.

Islam doesn't require special consideration and if people are Islamic terrorists their religion shouldn't afford them any protection.

The government should neither support or defend any belief or religion in the context of citizens vs citizens. It shouldn't enforce regulation or bar any citizen from participating in their government on a religious or belief based context. It should treat all citizens equally regardless of belief. If a law cannot do that it should be stricken down.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 12:56 PM
Having come from further afield of "hatred" than where Throndor is. It's safe to say it's not blind hatred. Labeling it that dilutes your position.

I strongly prefer a secular government myself. That doesn't mean I want to burn all mosques and churches and stop kids from having a bible study class.

I do think politics are having a corrupting influence in religion because politicians on both sides are getting involved in this debate trying to limit freedom of association and limit people's individual rights to free speech.

Islam doesn't require special consideration and if people are Islamic terrorists their religion shouldn't afford them any protection.

Its not even hatred. They can do whatever they want in their own bigotted corners of the world. Western culture actually attempts to address their own ethnocentrism, prejudice, religiosity, and unfair treatment of people on the outliers of the social norms. Can we say the same of islam?

Is the hope that, after dealing with their barbaric primitive ways for a few generations while indoctrinating them with western reconstructionism, that we will tame the noble savage?

Lets be honest here, is this what the globalist agenda hopes to acheive? A borglike amalgamation of non-differentiation through superior constructionist mores?

Irulan
12-16-2018, 12:59 PM
Its not even hatred. They can do whatever they want in their own bigotted corners of the world. Western culture actually attempts to address their own ethnocentrism, prejudice, religiosity, and unfair treatment of people on the outliers of the social norms. Can we say the same of islam?

I believe Islam is a toxic ideology hostile to freedom and democracy. I don't think we should be forced to defend it or associate with it. Or to accept it as individuals. It shouldn't be influencing our policies or governance and people that allow this are foolish.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:04 PM
Please be more specific. Theres a lot of variation between european cultures racist.

It was your girlfirend mick that said "white culture," you donut.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:06 PM
Its not even hatred. They can do whatever they want in their own bigotted corners of the world. Western culture actually attempts to address their own ethnocentrism, prejudice, religiosity, and unfair treatment of people on the outliers of the social norms. Can we say the same of islam?

Is the hope that, after dealing with their barbaric primitive ways for a few generations while indoctrinating them with western reconstructionism, that we will tame the noble savage?

Lets be honest here, is this what the globalist agenda hopes to acheive? A borglike amalgamation of non-differentiation through superior constructionist mores?

Islam has been present in the US since its inception. I think you're probably just afraid of people from the middle east.

Irulan
12-16-2018, 01:07 PM
So if I don't want my kid hanging with Islamic gang bangers I am a bad parent and racist?

What if I teach them about the Ottoman empire and it's human rights abuses, the trade of slaves and castrated males, and how Islam played a role in that empire?

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:08 PM
Can you describe white culture?

Conservative Americans. You replied to that post with ad hominem you're a hateful little runt

Irulan
12-16-2018, 01:10 PM
Islam has been present in the US since its inception. I think you're probably just afraid of people from the middle east.

Islam has had a negative influence on inner city black children, and incidently white children. My evidence. I served with both white and black men who were entrapped in gang culture. They had many Islamic influences.

Islam isn't a heritage that any race or group should proudly defend as their own. It spread through colonization and slavery.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:11 PM
Islam has been present in the US since its inception. I think you're probably just afraid of people from the middle east.

I am, with their death to America war on Christmas, Columbus, Thanksgiving you name it screw them GTFO this country if you hate it so much. I don't need them over here corrupting the minds of our youth (you)

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:11 PM
Islam has had a negative influence on inner city black children, and incidently white children. My evidence. I served with both white and black men who were entrapped in gang culture. They had many Islamic influences.

Could easily say the same thing about Christianity.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:12 PM
Conservative Americans. You replied to that post with ad hominem you're a hateful little runt

You are such a sensitive little snowflake. I didn't know this was a safespace. I'll be nicer to you, mick.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:12 PM
Could easily say the same thing about Christianity.

yeah the quality of life in Muslim countries compared to Christian countries is totally better. L:rolleyes:

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:13 PM
I am, with their death to America war on Christmas, Columbus, Thanksgiving you name it screw them GTFO this country if you hate it so much. I don't need them over here corrupting the minds of our youth (you)

Now we're getting to the root of the issue. You're a racist. Got it.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:14 PM
We're sorry your parents didnt let you have ice cream for breakfast

Irulan
12-16-2018, 01:15 PM
You should visit Egypt. Then visit Rome @fenin

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:15 PM
Yeah I'm racist cus I don't like people screaming racist things about my culture. Got it. Runt

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:16 PM
Yeah I'm racist cus I don't like people screaming racist things about my culture. Got it. Runt

Sorry you hate free speech

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:21 PM
One of the things I'm discovering about liberals this week is that it's actually one of their favorite activities to misquote someone and then create an entire argument based around their misinterpretation of the person that they're miss quoting.

Take this for example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/421534-former-gop-lawmaker-on-death-of-7-year-old-migrant-girl-message-should-be-dont%3famp

Now what that person was actually saying is that children have been dying because of the journey that they make through Mexico is totally unsafe. But what liberals misinterpret him saying is that we should say to Mexicans "we'l kill your kids if you come here so don't come here anymore!"

Which is like basically being paranoid schizophrenic thinking that there is that type of conspiracy going on in the top levels of our government. That the media is involved in this conspiracy.

everyone's working together to secretly but totally out in the open turn America into handmaidens tale!

it's so ridiculous you libtards think you're so smart but you're so ridiculous you're all basically Alex Jones.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:24 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:26 PM
One of the things I'm discovering about liberals this week is that it's actually one of their favorite activities to misquote someone and then create an entire argument based around their misinterpretation of the person that they're miss quoting.

Take this for example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/421534-former-gop-lawmaker-on-death-of-7-year-old-migrant-girl-message-should-be-dont%3famp

Now what that person was actually saying is that children have been dying because of the journey that they make through Mexico is totally unsafe. But what liberals misinterpret him saying is that we should say to Mexicans "we'l kill your kids if you come here so don't come here anymore!"

Which is like basically being paranoid schizophrenic thinking that there is that type of conspiracy going on in the top levels of our government. That the media is involved in this conspiracy.

everyone's working together to secretly but totally out in the open turn America into handmaidens tale!

it's so ridiculous you libtards think you're so smart but you're so ridiculous you're all basically Alex Jones.

I'm sorry, where did I misquote you?

You literally said you hate free speech.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:27 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

https://i.imgur.com/43ddDwa.jpg

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:28 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:30 PM
Can you describe white culture?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMHVVeZmm4I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6IWJjSpTFc&feature=youtu.be&t=2760

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:34 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 01:38 PM
my link gave fenin a heart attack

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 01:40 PM
racism isn't a big deal, says the guy doing racism

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6IWJjSpTFc&feature=youtu.be&t=2760

There's literally zero chance I'll ever click on a youtube video you link.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:42 PM
racism isn't a big deal, says the guy doing racism

https://i.imgur.com/a6zHeTG.jpg

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:42 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:43 PM
I think Throndor's human skin is failing.

Irulan
12-16-2018, 01:43 PM
The reality is a Saudi Prince is probably a really good lay. The Pope pays better and will let you go afterwards.

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:46 PM
The reality is a Saudi Prince is probably a really good lay. The Pope pays better and will let you go afterwards.

Both will probably keep you in a dungeon. Do you want the gown or the crown?

misterbonkers
12-16-2018, 01:47 PM
scared bonkers off twitch lol

lol nah I just had plans at midnight and didn't pay attention to time, didn't even know that was you

Irulan
12-16-2018, 01:49 PM
I'll take the Ferrari and Italian heels.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 01:49 PM
Both will probably keep you in a dungeon. Do you want the gown or the crown?

dope lyric me likey

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:50 PM
Its not even hatred. They can do whatever they want in their own bigotted corners of the world. Western culture actually attempts to address their own ethnocentrism, prejudice, religiosity, and unfair treatment of people on the outliers of the social norms. Can we say the same of islam?

Is the hope that, after dealing with their barbaric primitive ways for a few generations while indoctrinating them with western reconstructionism, that we will tame the noble savage?

Lets be honest here, is this what the globalist agenda hopes to acheive? A borglike amalgamation of non-differentiation through superior constructionist mores?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:51 PM
If you are so committed to the ideals of social reconstructionists, then why not address issues of ethnocetrism, racial homogenity, dogma, and self determination is countries most severely afflicted by such humanitarian "diseases", first? Why is this fundamentally a "western" issue?

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 01:51 PM
i didn't read it the first time not reading it now

feniin
12-16-2018, 01:54 PM
i didn't read it the first time not reading it now

Throndor
12-16-2018, 01:54 PM
Then theres no discussion to be had. Your entire equality-minded world view is a hypocritical platform of unequal application of your own "remedies".

Youre like the annoying homosexual black man my company made me take to florida to a physical audit of our fulfillment warehouse with. Dude sat around watching me work for a week, contributing nothing to the workload whatsoever, whilst attempting to start every sentence with "you know what your problem is?....."

(Nope, but i bet you think yourself positioned to tell me) excuse me, now. Ive got work to do.

feniin
12-16-2018, 02:00 PM
Then theres no discussion to be had. Your entire equality-minded world view is a hypocritical platform of unequal application of your own "remedies".

Youre like the annoying homosexual black man my company made me take to florida to a physical audit of our fulfillment warehouse with. Dude sat around watching me work for a week, contributing nothing to the workload whatsoever, whilst attempting to start every sentance with "you know what your problem is?....."

(Nope, but i bet you think yourself positioned to tell me) excuse me, now. Ive got work to do.

Could have just said "the guy" instead of describing him by his sexual orientation and race as if that's the only way to describe someone different from yourself.

You're probably not someone that works well with others so he wanted to stay out of your way because he wouldn't want an asshole like you mad at him.

Or you just made the whole thing up because you've already revealed yourself to be a pathological liar on this forum.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:03 PM
Could have just said "the guy" instead of describing him by his sexual orientation and race as if that's the only way to describe someone different from yourself.

You're probably not someone that works well with others so he wanted to stay out of your way because he wouldn't want an asshole like you mad at him.

Or you just made the whole thing up because you've already revealed yourself to be a pathological liar on this forum.
Do you know what your problem is?

feniin
12-16-2018, 02:06 PM
Do you know what your problem is?

That I choose to deal with idiots and racists on this forum instead of having another hobby?

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 02:08 PM
That I choose to deal with idiots and racists on this forum instead of having another hobby?

lmao

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 02:08 PM
Could easily say the same thing about Christianity.

Christianity had a chance to go through reformation periods that gave it the opportunity to adapt to modern, liberal, societies.

Islam has not.

There are around 350 million people in the world who practice Wahhabist doctrine.

In our ever shrinking, globalized world, this presents problems.

Are other religions problems? Sure, but Islam has the limelight and we can't be afraid to address the issues.

Calling someone "racist" because they oppose a religious ideology is beyond retarded.

It's one of the most bizarre things that some of today's Left so vehemently defends Islam.

Islam is everything you fear about Christianity.

They're literally throwing gay people off roofs.

I like my gays with their feet on the ground (despite what you may think of me).

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 02:11 PM
racism isn't a big deal, says the guy doing racism

I don't know man I fail to see the difference between hating a political culture or hating a foreign culture.

I just don't see you behaving any different I just see you mitigating the same hatred that you seem to be so upset about.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 02:14 PM
That I choose to deal with idiots and racists on this forum instead of having another hobby?

it's funny that you laugh about this but if you think about it maybe you are not quite different from the people that you choose to be around.

I would say that your personality and behavior would make sense if the anger that you use to attack people you disagree with on these forums is actually directed inwards because you know that deep down you hate minorities and the cultures that they come from too.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 02:15 PM
That I choose to deal with idiots and racists on this forum instead of having another hobby?

Christianity had a chance to go through reformation periods that gave it the opportunity to adapt to modern, liberal, societies.

Islam has not.

There are around 350 million people in the world who practice Wahhabist doctrine.

In our ever shrinking, globalized world, this presents problems.

Are other religions problems? Sure, but Islam has the limelight and we can't be afraid to address the issues.

Calling someone "racist" because they oppose a religious ideology is beyond retarded.

It's one of the most bizarre things that some of today's Left so vehemently defends Islam.

Islam is everything you fear about Christianity.

They're literally throwing gay people off roofs.

I like my gays with their feet on the ground (despite what you may think of me).

no but if they pretend like they like Islam then they're not agreeing with their mommies and daddies who are Christian and made them go to Sunday school and so they really just don't want to agree with them about anything so Islam is great!

#how to resist

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:22 PM
The reality is a Saudi Prince is probably a really good lay. The Pope pays better and will let you go afterwards.

I dunno. We could ask my mother about it. Back in the 80s when she was being a cokehead, her boyfriend was Osama Fahd, one of the prince of the Fahd royal family of Saudi Arabia. He was a big time cokehead who spent most of his time in the card halls of santa cruz moving us from hotel room to hotel room. He afforded his coke and gambling habits with moneys wired regularly from his family overseas back in SA.

I have a lot fond memories of the man. My personal favorite was when he broke a plastic hair brush over my 3 year old little brothers head because my little brother wouldnt stop crying in the car after he backhanded him in the face while lil bro was in the backseat of the car.

After he broke the brush he then proceeded to drag him out of the car and while suspending my little brother in the air by one ankle, as he proceeded to unfasten his belt and beat my little brother with it for the next 3 to 5 minutes. The 12 hour corner-stands and 100x10 pushup/situp regiment was another fun part of his discipline program. Unfortunately, he had to leave us when he got a little heated one day and stuck my mom for flirting with the rocker dude a couple doors down in the santa cruz hotel we were living in. But youre right, in theory theyre a beautiful people with a rich history of humanitarian ideals.

feniin
12-16-2018, 02:27 PM
it's funny that you laugh about this but if you think about it maybe you are not quite different from the people that you choose to be around.

I would say that your personality and behavior would make sense if the anger that you use to attack people you disagree with on these forums is actually directed inwards because you know that deep down you hate minorities and the cultures that they come from too. there's zero anger in anything I post. I mostly do it to see what sort of nonsense you will reply with. It's a game.

feniin
12-16-2018, 02:28 PM
I dunno. We could ask my mother about it. Back in the 80s when she was being a cokehead, her boyfriend was Osama Fahd, one of the prince of the Fahd royal family of Saudi Arabia. He was a big time cokehead who spent most of his time in the card halls of santa cruz moving us from hotel room to hotel room.

I have a lot fond memories of the man. My personal favorite was when he broke a plastic hair brush over my 3 year old little brothers head because my little brother wouldnt stop crying in the car after he backhanded him in the face while lil bro was in the backseat of the car.

After he broke the brush he then proceeded to drag him out of the car and while suspending my little brother in the air by one ankle, as he proceeded to unfasten his belt and beat my little brother with it for the next 3 to 5 minutes. But youre right, in theory theyre a beautiful people with a rich history of humanitarian ideals.
This happened

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:32 PM
Yes. My mother was a very attractive blonde Debbie, in the 80s.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:36 PM
You know that part where your college professor told you that you were raised in an ideological bubble and you had to understand that there was a vast realm of human experience that you couldnt really relate to, but that you just had to understand that was part of your ethnocentism? He wasnt wrong about that part.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:48 PM
Is it, perhaps, conceivable that you are carrying an ignorant romantacized view of foreign cultures, adopted in an effort reconcile yourself to the harsh realities of the world we live in?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:50 PM
I mean, my children get pretty upset when i tell them were having lamb chops for dinner, invoking anthropomorphized images of "lambies", but you know....reality n stuff.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 02:50 PM
Is it, perhaps, conceivable that you are carrying an ignorant romantacized view of foreign cultures, adopted in an effort reconcile yourself to the harsh realities of the world we live in?

lol.

I think it's funny that liberals practice Oprah Winfrey's the secret when it comes to International policy.

If they just think it like it is it'll be like it is!

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 02:51 PM
i like how thinking nonchristian american citizens should have the same rights and opportunities as christian american citizens gets brainwormed into "the left LOVES islam"

misterbonkers
12-16-2018, 02:51 PM
how lonely do you have to be to post 4 times within an 18 minute window of nobody responding

Throndor
12-16-2018, 02:55 PM
lol.

I think it's funny that liberals practice Oprah Winfrey's the secret when it comes to International policy.

If they just think it like it is it'll be like it is!


Yeah, the debate is over when you realize youre in an ideological debate with a child. I do belive my work here is done.

Its funny how my mom reconciled herself to the reality we experienced back then. Shes a diehard born again christian now.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 03:00 PM
I mean seriously I guarantee you that every liberal here has this personal belief that if you legitimize critical conversation about minorities and people of color then you're legitimizing racism to exist but if you don't tolerate any critical discussion about cultures minorities are people of color then racism will just go away... somehow.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 03:03 PM
I mean seriously I guarantee you that every liberal here has this personal belief that if you legitimize critical conversation about minorities and people of color then you're legitimizing racism to exist but if you don't tolerate any critical discussion about cultures minorities are people of color then racism will just go away... somehow.

it was better when it said yelling power racism

Throndor
12-16-2018, 03:06 PM
Thats the thing. The oldest ones 12. I had to take a bag of candy away from her this morning that she mustve slipped off to 7-11 to buy at some point when she was supposed to be at our neighbors bday party yesterday. She was eating it for breakfast. When confronted she tried to tell me that she was candy for breakfast because theres no food in the house.

This conversation was interrupting my breakfast preparation where i was cooking eggs, preboiling potatoes and shredding them into hashbrowns, and cooking sausage. the pantries are full of various cereals and theres plenty of milk in the house, as evidenced by my conversation with you guys yesterday, should she have chosen to go that route.

But im the bad guy for confronting her. After all, shes literally starving and forced to scavenge candy to survive this harsh environment

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 03:10 PM
Thats the thing. The oldest ones 12. I had to take a bag of candy away from her this morning that she mustve slipped off to 7-11 to buy at some point when she was supposed to be at our neighbors bday party yesterday. She was eating it for breakfast. When confronted she tried to tell me that she was candy for breakfast because theres no food in the house.

This conversation was interrupting my breakfast preparation where i was cooking eggs, preboiling potatoes and shredding them into hashbrowns, and cooking sausage. the pantries are full of various cereals and theres plenty of milk in the house, as evidenced by my conversation with you guys yesterday, should she have chosen to go that route.

But im the bad guy for confronting her. After all, shes literally starving and forced to scavenge candy to survive this harsh environment

is your daughter smart?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 03:20 PM
Like most teenagers, shes figuring out how to take things apart. She has know idea how to put them back together, or why some parts are more important than others, or which parts are better not to take apart at all, because i built them that way on purpose, for a reasons that will become clear later on, and hopefully even appreciated later in her life.

feniin
12-16-2018, 03:21 PM
is your daughter smart?

I certainly hope she takes after her mother.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 03:23 PM
Like most teenagers, shes figuring out how to take things apart. She has know idea how to put them back together, or why some parts are more important than others, or which parts are better not to take apart at all, because i built them that way on purpose, for a reasons that will become clear later on, and hopefully even appreciated later in her life.

do u give good brain or not?

Throndor
12-16-2018, 03:26 PM
do u give good brain or not?

You tell me. Did you appreciate the metaphor?

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 03:28 PM
You tell me. Did you appreciate the metaphor?

im down when and where

feniin
12-16-2018, 03:28 PM
do u give good brain or not?

Asking the real questions

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 03:35 PM
it was better when it said yelling power racism

how does your computer work does it refresh a tab of the forums every second and then you go through them 1 by one lol

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 03:39 PM
how does your computer work does it refresh a tab of the forums every second and then you go through them 1 by one lol

hush im tryin to get it wet here

misterbonkers
12-16-2018, 04:14 PM
hush im tryin to get it wet here

just tell him you're under 18, that gets his attention quick

Throndor
12-16-2018, 04:52 PM
If you think the christian patriarchy is bad, you havent the slightest clue how bad some of the alternatives have been/are. Humanity has histories where the victors ate their conquered. There are far worse things under heaven on earth.

feniin
12-16-2018, 04:59 PM
If you think the christian patriarchy is bad, you havent the slightest clue how bad some of the alternatives have been/are. Humanity has histories where the victors ate their conquered. There are far worse things under heaven on earth.

I'd really prefer to not know about a politician's imaginary friends and belief in the supernatural. We need significantly less religion influencing our politics.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 05:25 PM
How do you get less religion in politics by increasing the aggregate number of people bringing religion into politics; especially considering we're talking about a people with an increased conviction towards dogmatic religiosity?

Islam is christianity squared, its not a diffusion of abrahamic faith.

feniin
12-16-2018, 05:33 PM
How do you get less religion in politics by increasing the aggregate number of people bringing religion into politics; especially considering we're talking about a people with an increased conviction towards dogmatic religiosity?

Islam is christianity squared, its not a diffusion of abrahamic faith.

Did you even read what I wrote or did you have a conversation with your imaginary friend?

feniin
12-16-2018, 05:51 PM
looks like feniin has been deemed a darling

i will put xer posts on probationary "to read"

proud of you, boo

Throndor
12-16-2018, 05:52 PM
Let me break it down for you so you can catch up.

Youre criticizing the judeo christian roots of this country, positting that muslim influence in the creation and evolution of the american experiment was influenced somewhere even close to equittably between christianity and islam.

Youre taking the position of pro-islamic migration into the western world, arguing that any attempt to criticize or inhibit the forward progress of their sociopolitical agenda is "islamaphobia" using the justification of needing increased secularity in the western world as a GUISE to import an even more oppressive religiosity in its stead.

Youre either very disigenuous or youre a fool.

One could even say we're on the same side. I agree with you, we need less religion in politics. I just dont understand how importing a fuck ton of muslims furthers that goal.

Please, break it down for me. Im obviously an idiot.

feniin
12-16-2018, 05:57 PM
Let me break it down for you so you can catch up.

Youre criticizing the judeo christian roots of this country, positting that muslim influence in the creation and evolution of the american experiment was influenced somewhere even close to equittably between christianity and islam.

Youre taking the position of pro-islamic migration into the western world, arguing that any attempt to criticize or inhibit the forward progress of their sociopolitical agenda is "islamaphobia" using the justification of needing increased secularity in the western world as a GUISE to import an even more oppressive religiosity in its stead.

Youre either very disigenuous or youre a fool.

One could even say we're on the same side. I agree with you, we need less religion in politics. I just understand how importing a fuck ton of muslims furthers that goal.

Please, break it down for me. Im obviously an idiot.

Can you show me where I said any of that? other than acknowledging that you're islamophobic?

All religion, by nature, is ridiculous and dangerous and should be kept away from politics.

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 05:57 PM
How do you get less religion in politics by increasing the aggregate number of people bringing religion into politics; especially considering we're talking about a people with an increased conviction towards dogmatic religiosity?

Islam is christianity squared, its not a diffusion of abrahamic faith.

by ignoring it until it is a problem.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 05:59 PM
Than.....how is open borders an unfettered muslim migration into the western world improving that aim?

Ill attempt to answer my own question for you since youre, apparently, unwilling to.

We have deconstructed religion in the western world. As neitzche said "god is dead".

We have reconstructed a new, fairer society, with the repositting of all the puzzle peices of culture that were left over, manufacturing a religion free era of humanity.

We are so confident in our new system, that we are now prepared to assimilate the third world as well.


THAT is a pretty big gamble. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of your arrogance if you fail?

Irulan
12-16-2018, 06:55 PM
I dunno. We could ask my mother about it. Back in the 80s when she was being a cokehead, her boyfriend was Osama Fahd, one of the prince of the Fahd royal family of Saudi Arabia. He was a big time cokehead who spent most of his time in the card halls of santa cruz moving us from hotel room to hotel room. He afforded his coke and gambling habits with moneys wired regularly from his family overseas back in SA.

I have a lot fond memories of the man. My personal favorite was when he broke a plastic hair brush over my 3 year old little brothers head because my little brother wouldnt stop crying in the car after he backhanded him in the face while lil bro was in the backseat of the car.

After he broke the brush he then proceeded to drag him out of the car and while suspending my little brother in the air by one ankle, as he proceeded to unfasten his belt and beat my little brother with it for the next 3 to 5 minutes. The 12 hour corner-stands and 100x10 pushup/situp regiment was another fun part of his discipline program. Unfortunately, he had to leave us when he got a little heated one day and stuck my mom for flirting with the rocker dude a couple doors down in the santa cruz hotel we were living in. But youre right, in theory theyre a beautiful people with a rich history of humanitarian ideals.

Yeah, having a relationship was a bad move.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 07:09 PM
Im also wondering how all this third to first world migration helps us environmentally.

Leftists presume to occupy the platform of environmentalism often stating denialism as the platform of the right.

It is a proven fact that a carbon footprint cost disparity exists between first and third world humans. First worl lifestyles having a much greater environmental impact than a third world lifestyle.

How does migration from the third to the first world, as well as globalized manufacture and distribution of resources reduce climatalogical footprint?

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 07:21 PM
if i only had some brain

https://i.imgur.com/gu9cXei_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Swish2
12-16-2018, 07:25 PM
Im also wondering how all this third to first world migration helps us environmentally.

Leftists presume to occupy the platform of environmentalism often stating denialism as the platform of the right.

It is a proven fact that a carbon footprint cost disparity exists between first and third world humans. First worl lifestyles having a much greater environmental impact than a third world lifestyle.

How does migration from the third to the first world, as well as globalized manufacture and distribution of resources reduce climatalogical footprint?

Look at China's movement to cars over the last 30 years. Yep, it's fucked.

Patriam1066
12-16-2018, 08:46 PM
Im also wondering how all this third to first world migration helps us environmentally.

Leftists presume to occupy the platform of environmentalism often stating denialism as the platform of the right.

It is a proven fact that a carbon footprint cost disparity exists between first and third world humans. First worl lifestyles having a much greater environmental impact than a third world lifestyle.

How does migration from the third to the first world, as well as globalized manufacture and distribution of resources reduce climatalogical footprint?

Just admit you’re only attracted to white women and don’t want ugly women from foreign countries shitting up the aesthetic. I tell people that all the time and they respect my vote for TRUMP much more

Throndor
12-16-2018, 09:06 PM
Just admit you’re only attracted to white women and don’t want ugly women from foreign countries shitting up the aesthetic. I tell people that all the time and they respect my vote for TRUMP much more

Thats not necessarily true though. I prefer a red/blue but i also dig an asian sampler, with southeast asian, indian, and persian women as well, but im not supposed to say anything about that. I actually didnt vote for trump though. The election went down while i was still sleeping in my car after moving back to san jo, so i didnt have a registered address to vote for him with. Anyhow, it was already fairly obvious he was going to win and i dont mind having King Ecgbert on the throne till someone a lil more fitting comes along to remove the sword from the stone.

Throndor
12-16-2018, 09:22 PM
Anyhow, i have 5 beautiful women to escort to the nutcracker Balet to finish pulling together now. The show starts in 90 mins.

The chat has been a pleasure as usual and its nice to know the left is doubling down on the whole nonplatform still. Its a bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

If you care to actually answer any of the questions raised today, please feel free to, otherwise carry on with the Kobold swipes.

Merry Christmas,
Throndor

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 10:01 PM
Anyhow, i have 5 beautiful women to escort to the nutcracker Balet to finish pulling together now. The show starts in 90 mins.

The chat has been a pleasure as usual and its nice to know the left is doubling down on the whole nonplatform still. Its a bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

If you care to actually answer any of the questions raised today, please feel free to, otherwise carry on with the Kobold swipes.

Merry Christmas,
Throndor

that's cool. i have like 5 tran$ mtfs ready to burn it down til the lights come down. you wanna talk some real shit or just stay on the j petey regurgitation boring bullshit?

https://youtu.be/TxGrKSfGaqU

mickmoranis
12-16-2018, 10:14 PM
Attn: Obama in an effort to brain wash Americans(communist globalism) repealed laws that prevented propaganda.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

when Trump says we should see if what SNL and all the news stations are doing is legal he's talking about that he's talking about a reminding Americans that we are under a waterfall of propaganda and it ain't right

even homies like Ben Shapiro have it wrong right now this isn't an issue of freedom of speech this is an issue of corporations are subjecting us to massive amounts of propaganda and it used to be not legal but it was secretly made legal because of guess who... Globalist zog.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 10:46 PM
Attn: Obama in an effort to brain wash Americans(communist globalism) repealed laws that prevented propaganda.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

when Trump says we should see if what SNL and all the news stations are doing is legal he's talking about that he's talking about a reminding Americans that we are under a waterfall of propaganda and it ain't right

even homies like Ben Shapiro have it wrong right now this isn't an issue of freedom of speech this is an issue of corporations are subjecting us to massive amounts of propaganda and it used to be not legal but it was secretly made legal because of guess who... Globalist zog.

explain to me how to make propaganda illegal

and don't use words

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 11:11 PM
explain to me how to make propaganda illegal

and don't use words

Step 1: Don't advocate to make it legal

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 11:14 PM
Just admit you’re only attracted to white women and don’t want ugly women from foreign countries shitting up the aesthetic. I tell people that all the time and they respect my vote for TRUMP much more

This comment is more evidence that you're just a leftist troll.

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 11:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EHhtxte_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Ahldagor
12-16-2018, 11:31 PM
Attn: Obama in an effort to brain wash Americans(communist globalism) repealed laws that prevented propaganda.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

when Trump says we should see if what SNL and all the news stations are doing is legal he's talking about that he's talking about a reminding Americans that we are under a waterfall of propaganda and it ain't right

even homies like Ben Shapiro have it wrong right now this isn't an issue of freedom of speech this is an issue of corporations are subjecting us to massive amounts of propaganda and it used to be not legal but it was secretly made legal because of guess who... Globalist zog.

Limiting the first amendment is bad, right? Is it not up to consumers to determine what is truth when something is presented to them, according to SCOTUS?

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 11:33 PM
Limiting the first amendment is bad, right? Is it not up to consumers to determine what is truth when something is presented to them, according to SCOTUS?

This involved media created by the State.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 11:41 PM
Step 1: Don't advocate to make it legal

i wasnt asking u dumdum

mickold you're up

ScaringChildren
12-16-2018, 11:43 PM
i wasnt asking u dumdum

mickold you're up

It's specifically talking about media that is created by a particular government program.

It's easy to make that stop/illegal.

Wonkie
12-16-2018, 11:45 PM
Step 1: Don't advocate to make it legal

It's specifically talking about media that is created by a particular government program.

It's easy to make that stop/illegal.

lol no

ignoramus