******Official politics thread ******

[Cecily]

“[vaugely defined movement/idea/organization] agenda”.

[Wonkie]

anyway let's save some frames: it's exactly the kind of technocratic pragmatism that makes nancy and hillary moist.

[Wonkie]

here's another one: marrying farm subsidies to food programs for the impoverished via the farm bill. this kills two birds with one stone, like they done JFK.

[Throndor]

“[vaugely defined movement/idea/organization] agenda”.

Actually, i believe we've already posted the agenda, as detailed by the UN regarding unfettered migration throughout the world. Do try to keep up. I know its a lot to take in.

[maskedmelon]

so you don't have to support a policy to support a policy?


wat

problems and solutions aren't the same thing. you are taking for granted the idea that the the proposed solution not only remedies the problem, but is the only solution which does and is therefore somehow intrinsically linked to the greater concept. it's a convenient and expeditious mode of thought, but also faulty.

[Throndor]

here's another one: marrying farm subsidies to food programs for the impoverished via the farm bill. this kills two birds with one stone, like they done JFK.

Redirect

[Throndor]

so you don't have to support a policy to support a policy?


wat
Crazymaking

[maskedmelon]

here's another one: marrying farm subsidies to food programs for the impoverished via the farm bill. this kills two birds with one stone, like they done JFK.

that is policy again. im not familiar with it either. what liberal principles is it advancing?

[maskedmelon]

I should have said principles from the beginning, rather than position. Not trying to shift goal posts here, trying to better communicate lol.

[maskedmelon]

what's wrong with sincerity, you goober?

[Wonkie]

tell me the jfk thing was good or no deal. lie if you have to.

[Throndor]

pokesan stop it let her be the alpha

Roger, dodger. Shuttin up

[Throndor]

All im saying is the consequences for failure to domesticate islam is much more catastrophic for some than others. For christians, they can reorientate some theological beliefs, accepting the third chapter in the saga that is abrahamic faith, or paying the jizya to remain christian. For me, death. For gays, death. Pretty cut n dry that some of us have more to lose than others should our arrogance prove to be our undoing.

[maskedmelon]

tell me the jfk thing was good or no deal. lie if you have to.

at face value it doesn't sound bad. what did it do? did the government just buy crops from farmers and then give that food to starving people? It is almost certainly better than paying farmers to destroy crops.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/Ua1Cq5N.png

Whoever made this meme doesn't know what Liberalism is and probably calls every leftist a 'liberal'.

[maskedmelon]

i embarrass myself when i attempt it

i do too, but I've grown accustomed to being poorly understood. makes me strive to more clearly articulate and communicate my ideas. i have trouble serializing them for transmission.

[Wonkie]

at face value it doesn't sound bad. what did it do? did the government just buy crops from farmers and then give that food to starving people? It is almost certainly better than paying farmers to destroy crops.

that's how food stamps exist. we grow too much for farmers to sell at a market rate and remain solvent, and the govt has an interest in farms existing, so they prop up demand and help the poor in the same stroke. its in the farm bill.

t e c h n o c r a t i c p r a g m a t i s m

[Wonkie]

nice reddit spacing

ya well i like you flipping me shit so get kinked babe :)

anyway the point of this meltdown is to demonstrate that democrats implement social programs, not because they are marxists redistributing wealth, but accountants who like america alot and dont want it to burn.

"democrats are marxist" being the distillation of the youtube mans yall peckerwoods like so much

[ScaringChildren]

Christopher Steele admits in court that he was hired by the Clinton campaign in 2016 to write dossier (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/12/christopher-steele-hillary-clinton-was-preparing-t/)

[Cecily]

Actually, i believe we've already posted the agenda, as detailed by the UN regarding unfettered migration throughout the world. Do try to keep up. I know its a lot to take in.

Oh I didn’t actually read what you said because we’ve decided you’re a pretentious blowhard, but I was just, instead, making a commentary on how anywho uses the word agenda in any other context besides “this is what we’re going to do today” sounds like a crazy person. (It’s ok. I’m going to work in the mental health field).

[Throndor]

Oh I didn’t actually read what you said because we’ve decided you’re a pretentious blowhard, but I was just, instead, making a commentary on how anywho uses the word agenda in any other context besides “this is what we’re going to do today” sounds like a crazy person. (It’s ok. I’m going to work in the mental health field).

Right on. Then I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to go over a lot of the material we've discussed here over the past few days seeing as how "the mental health field" requires substantial exposure into the soft sciences. Just make sure you pay attention and understand the work. The point of the classes is not to "pass the class", rather it is to understand the material. Just like the point of wiping your ass, is to remove all of the shit from your ass, and not so much to be able to say, I performed this action 3 times as instructed. A concept lost on today's millennial slew.

[Cecily]

*gets on grand stand* ahem You see, this is the problem with the left. Anytime someone tries to involve them in legitimate political discourse, a reasonable topic like how Muslims are bad, they resort to tl;dr and insults instead of answering the questions.

[Throndor]

Uh huh. I believe it was a little more nuanced than that, but carry on with your own rendition of oversimplification and distillation

[maskedmelon]

it use ta be a lot easier for me to sharpen serious or semiserious ideas to a point.

As I integrated things u taught me, and new chemical environment, I discovered that aggression/angst/a manic sort of enjoyment were the germinus of some of my finer creativity. It has since been a journey finding a way toward clarity which avoids those discomforts and leaves me placid. so maybe a lil scareder than i ought to be of sincerity :o


I can respect that ^^ I noticed that my creativity withers as content rises. I think it is partly because negative emotion is an impetus for change

ya well i like you flipping me shit so get kinked babe :)

anyway the point of this meltdown is to demonstrate that democrats implement social programs, not because they are marxists redistributing wealth, but accountants who like america alot and dont want it to burn.

"democrats are marxist" being the distillation of the youtube mans yall peckerwoods like so much

I agree with you on most of this. Most democrats are not Marxist. And democrats implement social programs for the betterment of America. These are all separate conversations from "what constitutes liberalism."

[misterbonkers]

not reading much in this thread rn

3-sentence posts are getting read tho. f5ing for those

like a lotus blooms;
throndor reveals inner truth,
he hates brown people

i realized a haiku isn't three sentences after forming this, oh well

[Wonkie]

I agree with you on most of this. Most democrats are not Marxist. And democrats implement social programs for the betterment of America. These are all separate conversations from "what constitutes liberalism."

what's the point of a political discussion that doesn't deal in political reality? liberal in our society means democrat

they're the "Guardians of the Samsung Galaxy S9". they exist to keep capitalism from eating itself.

see: Bailout, The

[Throndor]

Nah. More concerned with them denouncing their dogma if they want to come here. Not forming subcommunities within our communities and insisting on exceptions to the law so that they dont have to evolve with the rest of society.

Show me statistics that demonstrate a trending decrease in the frequency of rape and violence to substantiate the claim that they are progressing toward civility in the western world, thus far.

Recent evolutions in UN governence insinuate that mass migration into Europe and the inherent assimilation required to bring about social stability is, thus far, successful. Substaniate that claim.

[Cecily]

Uh huh. I believe it was a little more nuanced than that, but carry on with your own rendition of oversimplification and distillation

So what you’re saying is that is that you value being understood and that you’re feeling burdened by such a towering intellect.

[maskedmelon]

what's the point of a political discussion that doesn't deal in political reality? liberal in our society means democrat

they're the "Guardians of the Samsung Galaxy S9". they exist to keep capitalism from eating itself.

see: Bailout, The

it loses sight of the principles one stands upon. when you take for granted that a political party actually is your world view, you ingest all the garbage it accumulates as it rolls along, including the nasty bits at the fringes.

[Throndor]

I understand that as a racist, you only see things through a racist lens. Therefore, your only relatable undersranding of why im apprehensive toward bringing the third world (foremost, the dogmatic third world) into the first world is the concerns of racial isolationists.

However, i am explaining that the concerns are much more culturally centered than they are racially centered.

Race is "a social construct" after all, and only a very small component of "culture" if it can even be relatable to culture at all.

Here in the United States, we agree to have one legal entity calling the shots; a secular entity. Likewise, this USED to be the case in greater Europe as well, before the insistence of acceptance for self-governership through sharia and judaic courts now being imposed throughout Europe to acconodate the backward glancing religious fundamentalists.

[Cecily]

Who’s to say things will get worse under the new theocracy?

[Throndor]

Who’s to say things will get worse under the new theocracy?

Increasing instability in areas leading the charge of multiculturalism.

[Cecily]

Will people like you get stoned under Sharia law?

[Throndor]

Will people like you get stoned under Sharia law?

Actually, in muslim countries, there is a great deal of clamour surrounding requests for reincorporating corporal punishments, including stoning and beheading...so YES.

I sure as fuck dont want them coming into the western world and then setting up their own bullshit courts governing their actions because their fundamentalist beliefs are atrocious.

[Wonkie]

Actually, in muslim countries, there is a great deal of clamour surrounding requests for reincorporating corporal punishments, including stoning and beheading...so YES

inshallah

[Cecily]

Thought I detected a bit of bias.

[Throndor]

Thought I detected a bit of bias.

And whats your point? To date, europe seems intent on allowing them to set up kangaroo courts, governing themselves, under the laws of the cultures they left "seeking refuge" from, in order to get there.

Are you saying that they are not?

[Cecily]

My point is you have clear a conflict of interest seeing as you’d be targeted by the new laws and perhaps you should gracefully bow out of this discussion since no one is going to be swayed by your biased opinions.

[Throndor]

The united states has been multiethnic for quite some time, but that doesnt not necessarily include multiculturalism. You can be "American " whether you are brown, black, white, yellow, gay, or asexual. What that means, is that you agree to be governed under the bylaws of the United States, indifferent to your ethnicity, sexuality, and religious upbringing. In cases where the fundamentalist christians have been proven to be at an overreach, laws have been changed to exclude their dogmatic approach to legality, and its a continuing process of separating church from state. How is allowing the establishment of courts conducive to the fundamentalist upbringing of "others" in alignment with this cultural agreement? (using your own words here, negative connotation not intended)

[Cecily]

Do you think there could be an argument for political bubbles? I’m worried about the effect poorly written and wrong opinions will have on my brain over time. In not so few cases, you’re giving a lunatic free reign to run through your mind and that can’t help but be damaging, I would think.

[Throndor]

Contrarily, by allowing mass migrants to come into the western world, and set up their own courts, whereby they are free to operate under their own antiquated cultural mores, you are arguing that some sort of compromise on secularity is in order. It absolutely IS NOT. THIS is what frightens those of us who have just FINALLY been given the freedom to pursue the life we are inclined to pursue, after several millennia of persecution on both sides of the fundamentalist aisle have used their desire for cultural superiority to justify exterminating us.

[Throndor]

When you try to reduce that very justifiable fear, to an irrational fear of "islamaphobia" you're being rather dismissive, divisive, and disingenuous. Im sure you MEAN well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions (as they say).

[Cecily]

Now you could make the argument that subjecting yourself to contrary opinions only helps to reinforce and strengthen one’s convictions, but I wonder if that isn’t just a psychological defense kicking in. I’m right. They’re wrong. That’s not thought. It’s reflex (which doesn’t involve the brain).

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/rslOp2O.jpg

[Throndor]

No, what im saying is that your attempts to reduce my position to mere "racism" or "islamaphobia" (borne of christian bias) is YOUR bias showing. You cannot see this as a mutlifaceted issue, it can only be binary to u.

[Throndor]

Secularity must be an unconditional surrender of anyone attempting to migrate into our secular culture. They cannot have it both ways. Until the left has homogenized on this view, they cannot validate their position on forced multiethnicism. Multiculturalism is a myth, culture itself is just a social construct, its imaginary. Attempting to homogenize us and unite us under one banner whilst not uniting us is a unresolvable paradox.

You cant just slip happy meaningless words loosely affiliated with "inclusiveness" in there to church it up with a pathos-infused bow whilst ignoring the logical fallacy.

[Cecily]

Secularity must be an unconditional surrender of anyone attempting to migrate into our secular culture. They cannot have it both ways. Until the left has homogenized on this view, they cannot validate their position on forced multiethnicism. Multiculturalism is a myth, culture itself is just a social construct, its imaginary. Attempting to homogenize us and unite us under one banner whilst not uniting us is a unresolvable paradox.

You cant just slip happy meaningless words loosely affiliated with "inclusiveness" in there to church it up with a pathos-infused bow whilst ignoring the logical fallacy.

Good points except that little freedom of religion thing we implemented awhile ago being a integral part of American culture.

Here’s the first amendment. It’s not just about free speech anymore.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

[misterbonkers]

what if we make them wear a big belt like the wwe heavyweight championship and call it the bible belt

[Throndor]

Good points except that little freedom of religion thing we implemented awhile ago being a integral part of American culture.

Here’s the first amendment. It’s not just about free speech anymore.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


Thats besides the point. Congress cannot make laws excluding specific religions but they can make laws governing the people. Nonsecular courts are unconstitutonal. If islam intends, to include within its doctrine, an insistence upon self governence that is THEIR problem to resolve. Theyre the ones bringing this ideology to us, not the other way around.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Any nonsecular courts they attempt to recreate under the jurisdiction of our secular courts CANNOT have validity nor the ability to enact punishment upon their own people even if they are only used in cases of transgressions between muslim and muslim, because by the constitution theyre agreeing to accept when they migrate here, nonsecular courts THEMSELVES are unconstitutional.

I mean, if they wanna make courts with non-tangible penalties, such as losing 3 imaginary heaven points for violating their imaginary rules, thats cool. But thats about the extent of their authority over matters of crime and punishment. This conversation is over.

[Throndor]

what if we make them wear a big belt like the wwe heavyweight championship and call it the bible belt

Best idea ever.

[Wonkie]

Thats besides the point. Congress cannot make laws excluding specific religions but they can make laws governing the people. Nonsecular courts are unconstitutonal. If islam intends, to include within its doctrine, an insistence upon self governence that is THEIR problem to resolve. Theyre the ones bringing this ideology to us, not the other way around.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Any nonsecular courts they attempt to recreate under the jurisdiction of our secular courts CANNOT have validity nor the ability to enact punishment upon their own people even if they are only used in cases of transgressions between muslim and muslim, because by the constitution theyre agreeing to accept when they migrate here, nonsecular courts THEMSELVES are unconstitutional.

I mean, if they wanna make courts with non-tangible penalties, such as losing 3 imaginary heaven points for violating their imaginary rules, thats cool. But thats about the extent of their authority over matters of crime and punishment. This conversation is over.

how ru gonna stop em? its voluntary

[mickmoranis]

what democratic socialists dont want you to know: They have gulags.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/03/denmark-foreign-criminals-remote-island/

lolz

migration minister tells somalis "go home, rebuild your country"

haha

I love it when the world makes sense.

GO FIX YOUR BROKE ASS SHIT HOLE COUNTRY

make a constitution

die fighting for something

dont walk to the saftey of another country, cus you dont want to work to fix anything that is your own!

cucks!

[Throndor]

how ru gonna stop em? its voluntary

Hold them 100% accountable to our laws and penalties. Dont fall into the bullshit trap pacifists in europe do of being lenient because "they dont know any better". They have brains just like the rest of us. Its not our problem if they decide not to use them.

[ScaringChildren]

how ru gonna stop em? its voluntary

The law. The law stops them.

"While arbitration law permits parties to resolve private disputes through private channels, faith-based arbitrators cannot deal with criminal matters, impose physical punishments, violate people’s rights or overstep the bounds of the authority granted to them by the law and the parties regardless of what their religions may teach."

[Wonkie]

Hold them 100% accountable to our laws and penalties. Dont fall into the bullshit trap pacifists in europe do of being lenient because "they dont know any better". They have brains just like the rest of us. Its not our problem if they decide not to use them.

what's legal under US law may be illegal under sharia or whatever other religious law system. if all parties voluntary submit to the judgment of the nonbinding court, you'll have to sit and spin my bitch.

[ScaringChildren]

what's legal under US law may be illegal under sharia or whatever other religious law system. if all parties voluntary submit to the judgment of the nonbinding court, you'll have to sit and spin my bitch.

lol no

are you trolling both of us at the same time?

...impressive :)

[Throndor]

Sharia law has no authority or validity whatsoever. If i deide to write a book outlining my religion of eating people that disagree with my god is energy and all matter is energy theory and humans contain the divine spark so that anyone who denies that "truth" is just an empty energy vesicle for me to consume...then i run around eating nonbelievers claiming my religious text ordained by god, then im fairly fucking certain you, and the rest of 9ur fucking government is going to take issue with that, and encroach on my religious freedom to enact punishment on whatever fucking kinda crazy i am

[Throndor]

Youre so full of shit that its spilling out of your ears. This is precisely what i mean by crazy making. Youre just trolling. Your position is untenable.

[Wonkie]

if nothing illegal occurs and noone is compelled there aint a lick you or anyone can do about it.

today you learned how sharia courts exist in the west.

[Throndor]

if nothing illegal occurs and noone is compelled there aint a lick you or anyone can do about it.

today you learned how sharia courts exist in the west.

No....sharia courts ARE illegal without having to do anything....they are unconstitutional by definition

[Wonkie]

The law. The law allows for them.

"While arbitration law permits parties to resolve private disputes through private channels, faith-based arbitrators cannot deal with criminal matters, impose physical punishments, violate people’s rights or overstep the bounds of the authority granted to them by the law and the parties regardless of what their religions may teach."

[Throndor]

Yes, it allows for toothless courts that jave no authority whatsoever when it comes to enacting tangible punishment. Thanks for agreeing.

[Wonkie]

Yes, it allows for toothless courts that jave no authority whatsoever when it comes to enacting tangible punishment. Thanks for agreeing.

well which is it? you just said sharia courts are unconstitutional.

are you some kind of moron or something?

[Throndor]

Pardon me. Didnt realize i was responding to a turing test. Later.

[ScaringChildren]

faith-based arbitrators cannot deal with criminal matters, impose physical punishments, violate people’s rights or overstep the bounds of the authority granted to them by the law and the parties regardless of what their religions may teach."

[Wonkie]

how have u dweebs never heard of arbitration?

[Throndor]

how have u dweebs never heard of arbitration?

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&biw=360&bih=269&ei=KV4ZXN2wMqiV0gL9h5qABQ&q=+have+u+dweebs+never+heard+of+arbitration%3F&oq=+have+u+dweebs+never+heard+of+arbitration%3F&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.12..33i299.21600.30906..31930...1.0..2.164.16 03.0j13......0....1j2.......5..0j0i71j35i39j0i20i2 63.gEtmMjd8Njc

[ScaringChildren]

how have u dweebs never heard of arbitration?

Of course, but the way the current law is, there is no way a Sharia Court could operate at full strength.

They would be able to settle disputes about angry neighbors and that's about it.

The people involved retain all of their constitutional rights.

So the US government basically gently pats a Sharia judge on the head and sweetly says, "Of course you can play courtroom if you want, but if you go too far, we break your fuckin' knees."

Because a full Sharia Court is ultimately unconstitutional.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/CVFYeE9.jpg

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/CVFYeE9.jpg

lol

[Wonkie]

lol no

are you trolling both of us at the same time?

...impressive :)

[Throndor]

https://youtu.be/NQ3A7P3k8mI

[Wonkie]

https://youtu.be/8bmn6bjlw70

[Throndor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxb9ZCFt1Hg

[Wonkie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxb9ZCFt1Hg

whatup Daywolf :o

[Throndor]

whatup Daywolf :o

Mushrooms are like Goats.

If you shoot a Duck,
I'm scared of toasters.

[mickmoranis]

suuuuuure one of these political corperations is better than the other political corperation

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-state-senator-kevin-parker-kill-yourself_us_5c194db3e4b0432554c507a5

get yourshit together libtards u aint going to win this way.

[Wonkie]

suuuuuure one of these political corperations is better than the other political corperation

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-state-senator-kevin-parker-kill-yourself_us_5c194db3e4b0432554c507a5

get yourshit together libtards u aint going to win this way.

when u troll em too hard they get as mad as a hatter

[mickmoranis]

when u troll em too hard they get as mad as a hatter

the funny thing is literally this guy's policy for hand guns is CHINA'S SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE

also if you want to know what a slippery slope is... its passing this legislation, and for some ungodlyl reason it doesnt get struck down in the SC (which it would because its outratiously stupid) and then in 30 years your kids are like "YoU HaVe tO HaVe A SoCIaL cReDiT ScOrE tO GeT A gUn in tHiS cOuNtrY sO WHY nOt MaKe It So YoU hAvE 2 HaVe One To VoTe WhY sHoUld OpEnLy RaCisT HaTe PeOple VoTE anY WaY?1?!"

[Throndor]

suuuuuure one of these political corperations is better than the other political corperation

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-state-senator-kevin-parker-kill-yourself_us_5c194db3e4b0432554c507a5

get yourshit together libtards u aint going to win this way.


Its ok, because theyre the good guys, and theyre the smart ones.



TEEEEEA!?!?

[Throndor]

how have u dweebs never heard of arbitration?

Arbitration? Is that when you kill baby fetuses by dressing up like a pirate and biting her nipple while hooking the fetus of our her womb?

[Wonkie]

well now i feel bad :(

[Throndor]

Yeah, your fucking stupidity ruined the conversation faggot. That's all good though. When they throw you off the rooftop we can be death-buddies together.

Getting even with Daddy for not supporting you putting other men up your ass was totally worth it though. Totally worth trade, because everything is totally worth your need to settle the score.

Getting even with Daddy and those big mean christians is totally worth bringing POISON into our culture and destroying the republic. Spiteful little shit. No one gives a fuck who are who you dont let climb into your asshole. There are bigger things at stake then your petty perversions and resentments. Last time I checked, we legalized and protected faggotry.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, your fucking stupidity ruined the conversation faggot. That's all good though. When they throw you off the rooftop we can be death-buddies together.

Getting even with Daddy for not supporting you putting other men up your ass was totally worth it though. Totally worth trade, because everything is totally worth your need to settle the score.

Getting even with Daddy and those big mean christians is totally worth bringing POISON into our culture and destroying the republic. Spiteful little shit. No one gives a fuck who are who you dont let climb into your asshole. There are bigger things at stake then your petty perversions and resentments. Last time I checked, we legalized and protected faggotry.

hook this straight into my veins omg

[Tethler]

Yeah, your fucking stupidity ruined the conversation faggot. That's all good though. When they throw you off the rooftop we can be death-buddies together.

Getting even with Daddy for not supporting you putting other men up your ass was totally worth it though. Totally worth trade, because everything is totally worth your need to settle the score.

Getting even with Daddy and those big mean christians is totally worth bringing POISON into our culture and destroying the republic. Spiteful little shit. No one gives a fuck who are who you dont let climb into your asshole. There are bigger things at stake then your petty perversions and resentments. Last time I checked, we legalized and protected faggotry.

This is the edited version, lol

[ScaringChildren]

IT'S OKAY TO BE RIGHT

[Throndor]

How many muslim countries have legalized and protected faggotry?

[Throndor]

looks like you broke him wonk

deploying humanitarian reports to admin

Yeah, go cry to Dad to handle your problems for you. Seems to be par for the course.

Or wait, I thought provocation was justification for violence. Isn't that the leftist mantra?! I mean, sure as fuck seems to be the case for antifa, yeah?

[Throndor]

im a republican


ur gross

Until it suits you to be something different. Then im sure youll have no qualms transitioning to that new mould.

[Throndor]

When you ally yourself with a bunch of dogmatic sheep fucking goat herders intent on subverting their host culture so they can realize their prophecy for a global caliphate thats where we have to part ways, sweetie.

No offense, but my ilk hasnt had a lot of allies throughout history, so youll have to excuse me.

[Throndor]

but i think wiry beards are gross and should be kept out at all costs

i really think we are fellow-travelers

I dont give a flying about their ethnic phenotype. I gove a fuck about their toxic mindset. Theres a big fucking difference. Arabs, themselves, are a fairly beautiful people.

[Throndor]

seems to me that their profession Islam en masse in the modern era is part of their phenotype

Are you telling me that you can separate biological sex fron gender, but you cannot separate ethnicity from religious enculturation?

[Throndor]

the notion that culture is derived totally independent of neurobiology is pretty lobotoliberal

Than how does islam intend to realize their prophecy of a global caliphate? How can they "convert" others to islam if we are genetically hardwired to preestablished religious leanings?

Are mexicans genetically prewired to be human sacrificing cannibals?

[Throndor]

wut



have u ever watched a cartel video

The islamic holy text fortells a time as we approach the end of times where the world unites together under 1 world government under the banner of islamic faith. This is referred to as the global caliphate. It is the impetus by which they are to go out into the world, infiltrating foreign cultures and subverting them to islam so that all can know the glory of allah before the end of days.

If people are genetically prewired to their own faiths, how is this conquest possible short of genocide of all "nonmuslim" ethnicities (since you are insinuating ethnicity and religion are interconnected; inseparably so)

[Throndor]

the a priori here is that both of us presume islamic scripture to be infallible. are you ok???

Youre moving the goalposts. Unfortunately, you're delving into a realm youre not prepared to defend. You're racist. We get it. Or at least your positting yourself to be one in disingenuous hopes that it will attract likeminded racists to reveal their racism.


Unfortunatel, because of the practice of concordance i am compelled by my spiritual underpinnings to research all faiths to understand the interwovenality between them, which means i have read the koran extensively. According to islamic belief, the koran is the final divine gift of god. It is literally the word of god...verbatim, and as such is infallible, and ineligible for revision.

If you dont believe that to be a fundamental truth, you are an apostate if you were raised in the faith, or you are not a muslim. Theres no grey area in this regard, their religion does not allow for it

[misterbonkers]

its like he wants to be some warped version of martin sheen in west wing shit talking the bible so bad

[Throndor]

no im answering ur question :o

the koran is incompatible with what i said because the koran doesnt know shit and therefore isnt up on the hate facts i just trotted out for u to hang urself with

hope this helps

Again youre moving the goalposts. Race does not equal religion. I think the arab people are a beautiful people. I would consider seriously dating an arab that was not also a muslim, have no qualms with migration of arabs into the western world, or anything of the sort. I fundamnetally disagree with the islamic faith however. Its an absolutely atrocious and intolerant belief system from its founding to its practice. I dont equate the two. They are fundamnetally delineated in my mind. Thanks for the disingenuous conversation tho, how very chameleonlike of you. Suits your androgenous nature.

[Throndor]

no i must insist i am directly answering the question which you clearly worded, twice, which broadcasted ur low iq very loudly

we can talk about race and culture once we get past me answering ur question, which was a retard's question. do u acknowledge asking the question or not.

u twice asked: "if racism is real then how come mohammed, a BROWN man, will conquer the earth in the end"


No, youre attempting to say that proximity to the origin birthplace of homo sapien is correlated to intellectual evolution and that their adoption of their chosen belief system is indicative of their capacity for forward thinking. Im not prepared to agree with that claim.

[Throndor]

yes i did say that just b4 u said that thing about how u think mohammed is destined to rule Earth twice

I didnt say that "I" think that, i said Muslims believe that. This belief is the impetus by which they choose to radiate out from their center. They see their prophecy as having a series of checkboxes checked off, and that this epoch is the time which they are compelled to go forth and fulfill their spiritual destiny. Big difference there.

[Throndor]

look im just asking u to acknowledge two kinda-huge, humiliating low iq rhetorical oopsies. i know ur not actually an Islamic fundamentalist. we all make mistakes, and some of us even make ones this bad. there is not that much shame in it

Im saying theyre not as dumb as youd like to think they are. Theyre doing a fairly effective job at dismantling europes supposedly superior intellect. Look how they use europes liberal reasoning to dismantle their cultural mores.

[Throndor]

Im also saying that if you really want to look at the adoption of simplistic belief systems as indicative of the average IQ of a population then we start to encounter some connundrums when we compare and assess statistics on who is supporting the leftist platform outside of the "others" being promised heaven on earth for their allegience.

Sorry i did not pick up on your insinuation at first glance, but i was kind of on another "track" at the time.

[Nexii]

Islam will moderate and be watered down like Christianity. Unfortunately it'll probably take another 50 years

[Throndor]

Islam will moderate and be watered down like Christianity. Unfortunately it'll probably take another 50 years

Then let europe eat that shit in the interim. If they can domesticate that shit before its imported here, fine. If they are crushed under the weight of it, fuck em. At least we still have a bastion of hope in this approach.

Thats the whole thing, anyone labelling concerns as mere "islamaphobia" is downplaying the severity of it. Theres an insinuation thats its an irrational fear, or unvalidated fear whereas history shows it to be quite to the contrary, unless of course you dont mind periods of high cultural turmoil and the very real possibility of religious war.

Im kind of digging the fact that we may be the first generation in modernity to avoid full scale warfare and yall crazy mufukkers are really pushing for one anyways. So, whos the crazy one here?

[Mblake1981]

This message is hidden because Throndor is on your ignore list.

https://i.imgur.com/14TBGpG.jpg

[Tethler]

I think Throndor's problem here is that in every situation he thinks of the worst possible outcome, then proclaims that it *will be* the result, making him look foolish or crazy.

Throndor, bud, not everything in the world is going to result in a worldwide caliphate full of pedophiles.

You should probably talk to someone.

[Throndor]

I think Throndor's problem here is that in every situation he thinks of the worst possible outcome, then proclaims that it *will be* the result, making him look foolish or crazy.

Throndor, bud, not everything in the world is going to result in a worldwide caliphate full of pedophiles.

You should probably talk to someone.

Maybe so, but you gotta admit, the only option left if we're underestimating things, is war.

Humanity doesnt have a very good track record of diplomatically resolving their differences in a mutually beneficial agreement, despite what a lot of muhfuckers like to say we have, or say we have evolved to now. Hell i almost had to beat down an uppity cholo at the bar 9 inches shorter than me a few nights ago because i brought two good looking girls into thebar with me in a sportscoat and that made him feel inferior.

Mind you, 3 years ago, i was sleeping in a fucking tent while finishing up a degree on borrowed money. If you simply dawn the costume these days, an envious little shitbag is ready to assign all their worlds problems on you.

Is a concealed carry permit and a handgun a required accessory for formal wear nowadays?

[Tethler]

Maybe so, but you gotta admit, the only option left if we're underestimating things, is war.

You're doing the thing again, in the very first sentence. How is your blood pressure these days?

[Throndor]

Racism is the only way to manipulate the ppl into actuating the policies u want

:)

Lol thats pretty fucking shitty. Especially considering that that fat slovenly white dude with the walmart fat face and vacant look in his eyes, is in no way superior to that sharply dressed articulate black man spotted elsewhere across town. No homo...just sayin

[Throndor]

You're doing the thing again, in the very first sentence. How is your blood pressure these days?

Not very good. Day 11 quitting smoking after smoking again for 6 weeks coming back off a 6 month quit. Feels like day 1 still. Might be a cup or two over on the coffee as well

[Cecily]

Not very good. Day 11 quitting smoking after smoking again for 6 weeks coming back off a 6 month quit. Feels like day 1 still. Might be a cup or two over on the coffee as well

Oh that’s why you’re nasty. I quit in June and still going strong. Glad you’re quitting again. Good luck to you!

[Ahldagor]

Not very good. Day 11 quitting smoking after smoking again for 6 weeks coming back off a 6 month quit. Feels like day 1 still. Might be a cup or two over on the coffee as well

I thought you drank tea. Your pretense has weakened, but good lord you don't cope well with being called out by anyone. Is it arrogance, narcissism, stupidity? Do share your personal conclusions.

[Throndor]

I thought you drank tea. Your pretense has weakened, but good lord you don't cope well with being called out by anyone. Is it arrogance, narcissism, stupidity? Do share your personal conclusions.

Manic dissociation as a cummulative effect of nicotine withdrawl coupled with recovering from near catatonia about 10 to 15 years back from frequent high dosage LSD usage while exploring my interests firsthand in the late 90s and early aughts before backing away from the edge and deciding to pursue gnoticisim from a more scholarly angle as a result.

*wink*

But what do i know about psychology.

[Throndor]

Definitely not stupidity though. Mensa application came back with 138 at age 35, a 4 point slip from testing in third grade that returned 142 and qualified me for GATEs accelerated program. Hard to know if the LSD caused the slip, or several years of docility, ya know?

[Throndor]

Oh, was i supposed to lie? *clears throat*

[feniin]

Definitely not stupidity though. Mensa application came back with 138 at age 35, a 4 point slip from testing in third grade that returned 142 and qualified me fofor GATEs accelerated program. Hard to know if the LSD caused the slip, or several years of docility, ya know?

https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/

[Throndor]

On the note of narcissism i dont think so, the tricky thing is narcissisim exists in blind spot so most people wouldnt know. My ex is a narcissist though, so i had a fair amount of exposure to her trickery and i dont really have a lot of issues of admitting when im wrong, accepting personal accountability for my actions and what not:hallmark indicators of narcissism.

When im not weening from nicotine, i seem to be fairly even keel, more self obsessed with oerfecting my own actions and self improvement but i do tend to ruminate so theres some tendencies toward ocd in idle.

I dont really subscribe to superiority ideologies but i am fairly astute when others have inferiority complexes and project the reverse onto me because of how they view themselves. Im fairly direct and will speak through a demure facade if theres something about someone i dont like, especially furtive behavior. I take it as an insult to my intelligence.

I dont really have much faith in the psychological industry anymore since there arent very many actual psychologists left, most of the ones i know pursu9ng that avenue cheated on their classwork off of me to pass their undergraduate classes and the entire psych industry is much in bed with the pharmaceutical industry now.

I prefer to live a drug free life most of the time, unless i intentionally want to eat some mushrooms or something for the spiritual insights they may offer.

[Throndor]

Likewise, the DSM V personality inventory is a faulty diagnosis tool becuase it relies heavily on projection to ascertain a diagnosis. This is precisely why sociopaths that know they are sociopaths are so easily able to avoid detection on the test. Furthermore, when youve seen as much of the shady shit ive seen tweakers and other undesirables i used to associate with do, its kind of hard to say i agree strongly with the statement that people are inherently trustworthy etc even though i know thats what i am supposed to answer with if im a normal naive fool.

Conversely, i remained relatively "good" through all of that, never hurt people that i didnt have to out of self defense, paid for my own recreational imbibing without scamming and conning people, holding down a full time job and paying my own way throughout all my life so i exist in this area where i know how to be a shady predatorial asshole if i wanted to, its just not in my disposition to be that guy.

[Throndor]

I meant it too. His petty resentful trolling was preventing the conversation from travelling in more meaningful directions.

[Ahldagor]

This shit's too easy, Wonkie.

[Throndor]

This shit's too easy, Wonkie.

Wonkie left. He pissed me off so i pissed him off.

[Wonkie]

oh god mensa hahaha

[Throndor]

oh god mensa hahaha

Yeah i only applied for the lifetime access to JSTOR but missed it by a couple points. 140 being the cutoff i believe

[Wonkie]

i had this rott girl who would chew thru ANYTHING, she would just sit and chew her toys all jolly and bouncy for hours. she didnt chew with malice - it just felt right to her i guess. thank god she got rubber pals instead of sentient things that could get brain dmged and put on a horror show

i love this post very much thank you for it :)

[Sonderbeast]

Throndor need his time in the closet. J get to work.

[Throndor]

Thats your projection. Im actually looking for clarity on the actual crux of the issue. Thinking it might be bipolar disorder, or early onset of LSD induced schitzophrenia tbh. Not that theres really much to do about it if so.

[Ahldagor]

Jstor is 20 bucks a month, so you wasted 2 months of it to take the mensa test...yikes.

[Throndor]

Jstor is 20 bucks a month, so you wasted 2 months of it to take the mensa test...yikes.

Yeah, as ive already said...i was living in a fucking tent while finishing up the last year of classes on borrowed moneys at the time. I know you all want to disbelieve the stories ive told you because it doesnt jive with your poverty as a life sentance theory etc but theyre true. All of them. Unbeknownst to all but one person i was going to class with who knew i undertook the choice of homelessness to escape a narcissistic cheating ex"wife" no one else at school knew what was up.

I rented a storage unit and packed all my shit up in it. After class i walked 3 miles down the hill to said storage unit to unload after dinner and take the tent out. When it was raining i frequently slept in the storage unit. I showered at the on campus gym every morning. I did laundry weekly at the local laubdry mat. No one knew save one friend i trusted not to expose my shame.

I burned it all down with her when i decided that her reality wasnt going to be the rest of my life....at any cost. The year after, on xmas eve, after refusing to let me see the kids for over a year, bitch called me up 4 times in the middle of the night xmas eve to taunt me with xmas songs (white christmas) and not seeing the kids.

[Wonkie]

tent hobo goes to college, becomes beautiful swan

grats on your transition

[Throndor]

tent hobo goes to college, becomes beautiful swan

grats on your transition

Thanks bruh. You know, sorry about exploding on you but its a little infuriating to see you repeatedly employing the same tactics that she did of gaslighting, denying, and crazy making just because the things being expressed/revealed dont want to be believed.

The world is much stranger than the apparent groundhogs day appearence it can take on sometimes. Some of it is choice, some of it is fate, some of it is just dumb luck, and at other times shit happens because were supposed to learn something and grow from it. Nihilism is great for a time, but eventually we gotta choose to get up, and do anyways.

This christmas, for example, i have 4 children that are expecting santa to make christmas magic happen (one of them being 5 so you can be damn certain she still believes)

Who makes that magic happen if not me? We alk know santa isnt real, but what kind of shitlord would i be if i let nihilism disillusion her too? Real talk.

[Sonderbeast]

Not projecting thron, your ailment is as obvious as anal seepage.

[Throndor]

Not projecting thron, your ailment is as obvious as anal seepage.

Right on bro. Ever been fucked by a fat man in an overcoat? Lol

[Wonkie]

Thanks bruh. You know, sorry about exploding on you but its a little infuriating to see you repeatedly employing the same tactics that she did of gaslighting, denying, and crazy making just because the things being expressed/revealed dont want to be believed.

The world is much stranger than the apparent groundhogs day appearence it can take on sometimes. Some of it is choice, some of it is fate, some of it is just dumb luck, and at other times shit happens because were supposed to learn something and grow from it. Nihilism is great for a time, but eventually we gotta choose to get up, and do anyways.

This christmas, for example, i have 4 children that are expecting santa to make christmas magic happen (one of them being 5 so you can be damn certain she still believes)

Who makes that magic happen if not me? We alk know santa isnt real, but what kind of shitlord would i be if i let nihilism disillusion her too? Real talk.

k

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/kCTandW.jpg?1

[Throndor]

Ikr. So much easier to hyperbolize and meme. Ill leave you all your quarreling now. Good talk.

[misterbonkers]

oh god mensa hahaha

only people with an IQ of 155 are allowed to read throndors posts, thats why i keep him on ignore

[Wonkie]

Ikr. So much easier to hyperbolize and meme. Ill leave you all your quarreling now. Good talk.

you are a ridiculous man, man

[Swish2]

https://i.imgur.com/WPq5wXX.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

I want to fuck Sarah Palin.

I've been trying to decipher why. It's the classic "sexy librarian" look. Is it an older woman fetish? Teacher fetish?

Can someone psychoanalyze why I wanna fuck Sarah Palin?

[Ahldagor]

Yeah, as ive already said...i was living in a fucking tent while finishing up the last year of classes on borrowed moneys at the time. I know you all want to disbelieve the stories ive told you because it doesnt jive with your poverty as a life sentance theory etc but theyre true. All of them. Unbeknownst to all but one person i was going to class with who knew i undertook the choice of homelessness to escape a narcissistic cheating ex"wife" no one else at school knew what was up.

I rented a storage unit and packed all my shit up in it. After class i walked 3 miles down the hill to said storage unit to unload after dinner and take the tent out. When it was raining i frequently slept in the storage unit. I showered at the on campus gym every morning. I did laundry weekly at the local laubdry mat. No one knew save one friend i trusted not to expose my shame.

I burned it all down with her when i decided that her reality wasnt going to be the rest of my life....at any cost. The year after, on xmas eve, after refusing to let me see the kids for over a year, bitch called me up 4 times in the middle of the night xmas eve to taunt me with xmas songs (white christmas) and not seeing the kids.

So you wasted forty dollars while living in abject poverty? You're missing the point or conflating it with that rambling. Trouble is that the conflation points towards ignorance, sociopathy, narcissism, or megalomania.

[Ahldagor]

I want to fuck Sarah Palin.

I've been trying to decipher why. It's the classic "sexy librarian" look. Is it an older woman fetish? Teacher fetish?

Can someone psychoanalyze why I wanna fuck Sarah Palin?

Dem tiddies.

[ScaringChildren]

Dem tiddies.

https://i.imgur.com/Kl2ml1F.png

[ScaringChildren]

Leftist Globalists:

https://i.imgur.com/LNwxjK1.jpg

[Patriam1066]

I just started watching the office with my daughter. I used to hate this show, but since I started it from the beginning, I’m starting to appreciate the humor. Just one question. What the fuck is wrong with Michael Scott? Jesus Christ

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/M77tkWb.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEE (http://archive.is/csYeL)

[ScaringChildren]

https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/1075032364156375040

[Wonkie]

this is what white genocide looks like

https://i.imgur.com/CkhBxS2.jpg

you will not replace us

[ScaringChildren]

this is what white genocide looks like

https://i.imgur.com/CkhBxS2.jpg

you will not replace us

TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH, THAT'S A NATIONAL TREASURE

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/hI6kl5z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[ScaringChildren]

sounds good as hell

The deported family sounds good?

[Mead]

I want to fuck Sarah Palin.

I've been trying to decipher why. It's the classic "sexy librarian" look. Is it an older woman fetish? Teacher fetish?

Can someone psychoanalyze why I wanna fuck Sarah Palin?

I watched a porno once called nailin palin

No trannys tho so you wouldn’t like

[ScaringChildren]

I watched a porno once called nailin palin

No trannys tho so you wouldn’t like

You kink shaming me, brah?

That's like...against your leftist religion.

[misterbonkers]

https://i.imgur.com/hI6kl5z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

you realize they're different actresses, right?

[ScaringChildren]

you realize they're different actresses, right?

Doesn't matter :)

[Wonkie]

Doesn't matter :)

[Irulan]

I don't care about your political views as long as you're moderately sexy and willing to pay.

And this isn't any kind of facetiouscism.

[Irulan]

I watched a porno once called nailin palin

No trannys tho so you wouldn’t like

Once upon a time there existed a futanari of Palin crashing into the WH on a motor bike with McCain at the desk and an American flag waving brazenly.

I fapped to it. Back when I still came healthy bucket loads of semen.

Too bad it's been lost to bitrott. Or I would repost.

[ScaringChildren]

Once upon a time there existed a futanari of Palin crashing into the WH on a motor bike with McCain at the desk and an American flag waving brazenly.

I fapped to it. Back when I still came healthy bucket loads of semen.

Too bad it's been lost to bitrott. Or I would repost.

Please tell me she fucked McCain against his will

[JurisDictum]

Harold Meyerson, who was obviously fired because of anti-socialist Bernie-supporter round up in the 2015 Washington Post, wrote a salient article on Imperatives for Democrats (https://prospect.org/article/imperatives-democrats).

But he is still acting naive. He points out that Nancy Pelosi is the one blocking medicare for all first and for-most. She argues that Americans don't want simple free healthcare and prefer the current bullshit Obamacare system because they don't like change.

And he actually takes that argument seriously and proposes some incremental solution.

It's like the Heath insurance industry hired some political scientist awhile ago to poll people's opinions on healthcare. People wanted to keep there health plans rather than have to figure out a new one....duh.

So the industry has used this kernel of information to paint the American political landscape as if a change in healthcare is completely untenable for the American people. And in the 90s they were right.

There's just one problem. This isn't the fucking 90s, and people are sick of out of control healthcare costs, crap plans with huge deductibles, outrageous drug prices. It just keeps getting worse under multi-payer privatization model.

So all the sudden a little bit of change might not be the end of the world. Its not that complicated. It's not like America is sending "mixed messages." Shit changes

But don't expect the fucking 70+ year old political boss of old to honestly argue for a huge change and how things work. Pelosi isn't worried about Republicans winning on healthcare. She is worried about her corporate doners losing on it.

[Mead]

You kink shaming me, brah?

That's like...against your leftist religion.

I don't judge pal, just sayin'

I'm also not foolish enough to pick a sports team. There are many things I don't see eye to eye on with liberals, especially my right to bear arms

Hope that helps

[ScaringChildren]

I don't judge pal, just sayin'

I'm also not foolish enough to pick a sports team. There are many things I don't see eye to eye on with liberals, especially my right to bear arms

Hope that helps

You were just sayin' it to be disrespectful.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY NAVY SEAL COPYPASTA, PUNK?!

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/s6CNHjm.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

HAHAHAHA GET FUCKED, NEO-LIBS (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-preparing-for-a-full-withdrawal-of-its-forces-from-northeastern-syria-11545225641)

[feniin]

HAHAHAHA GET FUCKED, NEO-LIBS (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-preparing-for-a-full-withdrawal-of-its-forces-from-northeastern-syria-11545225641)

Gotta change the narrative of the news cycle, bruh. Get people talkin' about other stuff.

[ScaringChildren]

George Soros is PISSED they cancelled his war :(

Poor Georgie

[maskedmelon]

meanwhile, in Turkey... (https://www.turkishislamicunion.com)

[maskedmelon]

they like us too, especially if we're muslim. i would note though that it was the great republican leaders Gerald Ford and Ronald Regan who paved the way for gay marriage and conservative Anthony Kennedy who single handedly affirmed it the law of the land 🤗 That is after the democratic people's republic of California (mostly regressive democrats) rejected it.

[maskedmelon]

ikr

[misterbonkers]

those exit poll demos were a real eye opener ! :eek::eek:

would actually be curious to see those

[feniin]

http://www.madpickles.org/California_Proposition_8.html

https://i.imgur.com/3ePvt2T.png

If California ballots are anything like Florida ballots, they're deliberately worded to be confusing and give you as little information as possible. Can't imagine many people know what they're actually voting for unless they get supplemental paperwork, absentee/mail-in ballot, and spend hours actually researching the initiatives. It's not unreasonable (that's what my wife and I do) but I would guess most people don't take that sort of interest in anything other than who they're voting for President.

[Wonkie]

If California ballots are anything like Florida ballots, they're deliberately worded to be confusing and give you as little information as possible. Can't imagine many people know what they're actually voting for unless they get supplemental paperwork, absentee/mail-in ballot, and spend hours actually researching the initiatives. It's not unreasonable (that's what my wife and I do) but I would guess most people don't take that sort of interest in anything other than who they're voting for President.

grats u basically called black people stupid

[Sonderbeast]

If California ballots are anything like Florida ballots, they're deliberately worded to be confusing and give you as little information as possible. Can't imagine many people know what they're actually voting for unless they get supplemental paperwork, absentee/mail-in ballot, and spend hours actually researching the initiatives. It's not unreasonable (that's what my wife and I do) but I would guess most people don't take that sort of interest in anything other than who they're voting for President.

super gay

[ScaringChildren]

grats u basically called black people stupid

Lol I'm genuinely glad you caught that.

You're not so bad ;)

[misterbonkers]

http://www.madpickles.org/California_Proposition_8.html

https://i.imgur.com/3ePvt2T.png

it's an interesting claim by maskedmelon then that "mostly democrats" rejected same sex marriage when poll data says 77% repub voted yes to and 65% dem voted no on rejecting same sex marriage (https://www.ppic.org/publication/ppic-statewide-survey-californians-and-their-government-december-2008/)

i dug deeper out of curiosity because i found it interesting that data didn't mention anything about political affiliation

[Wonkie]

what's a fellow traveler

I heard the bell

[misterbonkers]

all well and good but the analomy here is this: if melanins as a cohort vote D, and D's as a cohort vote for sexual libertas, then how is it that we got majorities of melanins voting yes on prop 8? :eek::eek:

people don't always vote party lines

[misterbonkers]

more for me to not have

[ScaringChildren]

I'm a red hat, southern, conservative and I think gay people should have as much butt sex and marriage as they want.

Who cares?

What is important is that you're American.

1) is the person American?

If 'Yes', they're badass. Let em do what they want.

Nationalism is the only identity politics I support.

[Wonkie]

.

are you working out your meatsex hangups publicly to delight and entertain us?

[Sonderbeast]

j you can't keep your balls and still be a womam

threweth em yonder and nay looketh behind

[maskedmelon]

it's an interesting claim by maskedmelon then that "mostly democrats" rejected same sex marriage when poll data says 77% repub voted yes to and 65% dem voted no on rejecting same sex marriage (https://www.ppic.org/publication/ppic-statewide-survey-californians-and-their-government-december-2008/)

i dug deeper out of curiosity because i found it interesting that data didn't mention anything about political affiliation

California is a majority Democrat state. That state rejected gay marriage because not enough democrats supported it and as J has already appointed out a large part of that was due to her nemesis. Either way, legal gay marriage is the product of Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and ultimately Anthony Kennedy. And Kennedy has dutifully passed the baton of reason and tolerance to Brett Kavanaugh whomst the illiberal democrats tried to brand a rapist because they knew he would stand on the side of the law and rule for planned parenthood.

[Wonkie]

are you shitting me

[misterbonkers]

so because dems didn't fully support it overwhelmingly, somehow that means conservatives are the reason for it, even though they're the most staunchly against it?

anthony kennedy wasn't partisan, but whatever helps you sleep at night

[maskedmelon]

*late the disgruntled little animal in the head*

im 98% confident she's serious

[maskedmelon]

so because dems didn't fully support it overwhelmingly, somehow that means conservatives are the reason for it, even though they're the most staunchly against it?

anthony kennedy wasn't partisan, but whatever helps you sleep at night

yeah, Gerald Ford elevated Kennedy to the federal bench, Regan christened him AJOSCOTUS and he, a conservaberal and one of the two impartial members of the court, threw out the law because it was discriminatory.

[maskedmelon]

:o:confused:

clarify please? ^^

i thought Pokes was talking to you because he posted too quick after me for it to be to me and so I patted him on his wiry little head and just said i mostly believe you ^^

[maskedmelon]

On god i hate this tablet

[Wonkie]

ok sorry what does late mean tho

[Wonkie]

I've never seen that word. i assumed she was flicking me.

[misterbonkers]

I've never seen that word. i assumed she was flicking me.

you've never seen the word late? :confused:

[Wonkie]

you've never seen the word late? :confused:

i have just not used that way

i posted too late? in the head? :confused:

[misterbonkers]

i have just not used that way

i posted too late? in the head? :confused:

it was pretty obviously an autocorrect error for pets or pats, goober

[Wonkie]

it was pretty obviously an autocorrect error for pets or pats, goober

oh.

https://youtu.be/cdEQmpVIE4A

[Sonderbeast]

autogay

[maskedmelon]

im only half retarded

[rollin5k]

Msm continues to report lies and stupid bull shit while actual news happens

[ScaringChildren]

Msm continues to report lies and stupid bull shit while actual news happens

Speaking of which, one of the top journalists of CNN and Der Spiegel was just found to have faked all of his reporting for the past few years, after he admits to doing so. (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/media/claas-relotius-spiegel/index.html)

Including stories on Syria, and his stories about anti-immigrant bigotry on the US-Mexican border.

[Ahldagor]

Speaking of which, one of the top journalists of CNN and Der Spiegel was just found to have faked all of his reporting for the past few years, after he admits to doing so. (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/media/claas-relotius-spiegel/index.html)

Including stories on Syria, and his stories about anti-immigrant bigotry on the US-Mexican border.

Wasn't all of them, but one was an award winning piece. Don't discredit the publication via a generalization from one reporter tho'.

[ScaringChildren]

Don't discredit the publication via a generalization from one reporter tho'.

Why not?

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/HVAk2Ks.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

Creepy...
https://i.imgur.com/CptMao7.jpg

[rollin5k]

Creepy...
https://i.imgur.com/CptMao7.jpg

She looks like a full blown drug addict

[rollin5k]

I guess pilled into outerspace is their version of the future

[Patriam1066]

The Dow is dropping bigly. Sad!

[Throndor]

The Dow is dropping bigly. Sad!

Yeah, this shit is nasty. I pulled the ripcord when Wheaton Precious Metals popped +25% while everything else nosedived early yesterday.


I'm waiting for it to finish crashing before buying in at the bottom sometime mid-way through the year next year at this point.


Kids, you know that part where you said you never had a chance because the old coots inflated the prices on everything. Stack your cash and stay tuned for the bottom. This shits going down in flames like 2008 all over again at this point, and once it hits bottom, you're looking at the opportunity of a 700% rebound all over again. Greenspan going on the record stating a crash is imminent was the last indicator I needed to see whats up.

[Ahldagor]

a lot of this thread is just a dude jacking off in public. don't encourage him.

[feniin]

Yeah, this shit is nasty. I pulled the ripcord when Wheaton Precious Metals popped +25% while everything else nosedived early yesterday.


I'm waiting for it to finish crashing before buying in at the bottom sometime mid-way through the year next year at this point.


Kids, you know that part where you said you never had a chance because the old coots inflated the prices on everything. Stack your cash and stay tuned for the bottom. This shits going down in flames like 2008 all over again at this point, and once it hits bottom, you're looking at the opportunity of a 700% rebound all over again. Greenspan going on the record stating a crash is imminent was the last indicator I needed to see whats up.

This is where predators at the top buy up companies and consolidate their investments. People at the bottom of the financial totem pole don't have the liquid assets to purchase anything significant or to sequester a large portion of their cash in hopes of seeing a ROI.

[Wonkie]

mattis quit over the withdrawal(s?)

warmonger!

[Throndor]

This is where predators at the top buy up companies and consolidate their investments. People at the bottom of the financial totem pole don't have the liquid assets to purchase anything significant or to sequester a large portion of their cash in hopes of seeing a ROI.

I disagree with your definition of "significant". It insinuates that there's "absolute"ly no value in riding the wave for whatever gains one can sequestor.

You're essentially arguing.....take no action whatsoever.....and then complain about your future lack of non-results.

Global Communism does not stand to improve the quality of life of the bottom 10% of american society, and make no mistake, globablists have no intention of positioning the bottom 10% of americans at a position just below the fulcrum by which they intend to "balance" global poverty. Quit being so "american-poverty"-centric. From a Quality of Life perspective, the bottom 10% of USA-Americans live better than a large majority of the world's population.

[ScaringChildren]

mattis quit over the withdrawal(s?)

warmonger!

Sucks, but I suppose no one is immune to being corrupted by the globalist machine.

The New American Century doesn't want to die.

We all want the US to excel, but not through neo-imperialism or at the expense of American citizens.

[feniin]

I disagree with your definition of "significant". It insinuates that there's "absolute"ly no value in riding the wave for whatever gains one can sequestor.

You're essentially arguing.....take no action whatsoever.....and then complain about your future lack of non-results.

Global Communism does not stand to improve the quality of life of the bottom 10% of american society, and make no mistake, globablists have no intention of positioning the bottom 10% of americans at a position just below the fulcrum by which they intend to "balance" global poverty. Quit being so "american-poverty"-centric. From a Quality of Life perspective, the bottom 10% of USA-Americans live better than a large majority of the world's population.

I don't think you realize how most of America lives.

Literally zero to negative amounts of money paycheck to paycheck.

[Throndor]

I don't think you realize how most of America lives.

Literally zero to negative amounts of money paycheck to paycheck.

I believe i have explained my journey in more detail than any of you have on this thread, to date. Ive literally put elements of my life heavily laced with internalized shame, that i have had to personally overcome, to bare, and your only response to date is disbelief, insults, and attempts to further shame me.

This is, supposedly, the "empathetic" party's response, to date, on this thread.


Imagine, for just a brief moment, if everything i have told you thus far is absolutely true.......

Are you proud of yourself? We're not as "different" as you'd like to think....or (judging by your responses) maybe we are.

[Wonkie]

Sucks, but I suppose no one is immune to being corrupted by the globalist machine.

The New American Century doesn't want to die.

We all want the US to excel, but not through neo-imperialism or at the expense of American citizens.

https://youtu.be/qjUvfZj-Fm0

lol

[ScaringChildren]

It's the beginning of the end to the beginning of the end's beginning of the end's bombshell.

[rollin5k]

Gotta get out there and hit your key words ready break

[ScaringChildren]

Our teachers are now telling students that they are promoting genocide if they watch Pewdiepie... (https://youtu.be/MzQskgrQxaw)

[rollin5k]

Public school is child abuse at this point. Really

[ScaringChildren]

The amount of ignorance that teacher is spewing...lol

This is what happens when people blindly trust the media.

[Throndor]

Public school is child abuse at this point. Really

Yep, and now they're trying to abolish private schools by increasignly strangling them with initiatives bent on controlling the curriculum so they can ensure their narrative permeates every aspect of our children's lives no matter what we do to safeguard them from it.


Its all very orwellian, while the lemmings drone on with their 100% materialistic mindset that denies the existence of anything else, while simultaneously trying to bring the unity of the divine into this universe of duality even though i have already, specifically, outlined how this is not even possible, even when suspending my own beliefs and entering the thought experiment of how to attain and MAINTAIN a world of humanity without difference.

[Ahldagor]

I believe i have explained my journey in more detail than any of you have on this thread, to date. Ive literally put elements of my life heavily laced with internalized shame, that i have had to personally overcome, to bare, and your only response to date is disbelief, insults, and attempts to further shame me.

This is, supposedly, the "empathetic" party's response, to date, on this thread.


Imagine, for just a brief moment, if everything i have told you thus far is absolutely true.......

Are you proud of yourself? We're not as "different" as you'd like to think....or (judging by your responses) maybe we are.

You're pretense is hilarious in that you're operating in a notion of generalization. Logic can liberate if the user is wise.

[Throndor]

You're pretense is hilarious in that you're operating in a notion of generalization. Logic can liberate if the user is wise.

It took you 3 hours to come up with this?

Your empathy is only applicable in a generalized sense, when confronted with specificity you scoff, attack, deny, scowl, and ridicule instead of empathize as evidenced when confronted with authentic narrative over the past several days. Even now, you persist. Nice talking with you, kid.

[Ahldagor]

It took you 3 hours to come up with this?

Your empathy is only applicable in a generalized sense, when confronted with specificity you scoff, attack, scowl, and ridicule instead of empathize. Nice talking with you, kid.

Lol at your assumption, weakling.

[Throndor]

Oh hey, a prompt response half-thought as a knee-jerk reaction. Congratulations on audiblizing without taking 3 hours to deliberate on your word salad.

[Wonkie]

Oh hey, a prompt response half-thought as a knee-jerk reaction. Congratulations on audiblizing without taking 3 hours to deliberate on your word salad.

here's the word, thunderbird - u can toss my salad anytime

[Throndor]

here's the word, thunderbird - u can toss my salad anytime

It would be the best rimjob of your life ;)

[Ahldagor]

Oh hey, a prompt response half-thought as a knee-jerk reaction. Congratulations on audiblizing without taking 3 hours to deliberate on your word salad.

Don't smoke skooma, weakling.

[Throndor]

Lets see you bare your story, kid.

Tell us of the chasms of experience behind you sagacious veil, oh wise one.

[Wonkie]

It would be the best rimjob of your life ;)

weird flex but ok

[misterbonkers]

It would be the best rimjob of your life ;)

tongue in cheek humor is not your strong suit

[Cecily]

Are you proud of yourself? We're not as "different" as you'd like to think....or (judging by your responses) maybe we are.

“We’re not so different, you and I.” (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0YPXb49q0)

You might not realize it, but there’s pretty good odds you’re a Bond villain.

[Ahldagor]

Lets see you bare your story, kid.

Tell us of the chasms of experience behind you sagacious veil, oh wise one.

Why are you the only one that cares, weakling?

[rollin5k]

Wall

[Ahldagor]

Wall

Being crowd funded now, lol. Will building permits be granted? Me thinks this is a scam of sorts tho'.

[rollin5k]

Wtf u talkin bout weakling

[Ahldagor]

Wtf u talkin bout weakling

I dunno. I'm drunk and wondering why the Rockets pissed away a win. Hobgoblin ale, stilk good.

[Wonkie]

Wtf u talkin bout weakling

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

[Wonkie]

they're 1% of the way there. the t bills thing is a good idea tho

[rollin5k]

oh thats cool

[Swish2]

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

lol, if it makes it...can they deliver it on a $1 billion budget?

[Ahldagor]

lol, if it makes it...can they deliver it on a $1 billion budget?

Not in today's construction world.

[maskedmelon]

it depends on the overall original budget. a private entity would accomplish it at a fraction of the cost of the government. public works are cash farms for entities that can follow procedure because the consultants and designers hired by the government are generally incompetent and their designs are fraught with errors and omissions which balloon the cost of projects.

that asaide it is very sad to see Mattie departing and the reasons for his departure. I've never liked Trump's stance with respect to our allies and the hermitdom advocated by libertarians and progressives. we need to defend our friends.

[maskedmelon]

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

this is kinda cool 😎

[Irulan]

I think the biggest epiphany to be had is that in end, if you expect someone else to take care of you.

You will be neglected.

[JurisDictum]

it depends on the overall original budget. a private entity would accomplish it at a fraction of the cost of the government. public works are cash farms for entities that can follow procedure because the consultants and designers hired by the government are generally incompetent and their designs are fraught with errors and omissions which balloon the cost of projects.

that asaide it is very sad to see Mattie departing and the reasons for his departure. I've never liked Trump's stance with respect to our allies and the hermitdom advocated by libertarians and progressives. we need to defend our friends.

Thats true but the other side of the story is government investment is needed when the market finds such investment too risky. For example, spending a ton of money to bring electricity to the poor rural south in the 30s-40s.

Other inventions include -- IDK -- the internet, television, space travel etc...

We managed to do without paying some CEO millions are year.

Just remember that when the head of one of the 6 networks we have is going on about job creators and the wonders of the private sector.

When it comes to a wall I don't trust the private sector to build it cheaper even though it could theoretically. There is too little oversight on our government right now, everyone's hand is out, and the idea that we can hire a private company without getting the pants scammed off us and making a few more CEO millionaires is pretty laughable.

Even it was slightly cheaper, so what? It's got to be a lot cheaper to justify privatization at this point. If the government is wasting money, at least some of that waste goes to overpaid workers rather than just more overpaid capitalists.

[Throndor]

I dont think its appropriate to compare todays government, and their (in)ability to accomplish public works feats, to the industrious government of the 30s and 40s.

In 1931, we began construction of the Hoover Dam. It was completed in 5 years and it was a revolutionary feat of civil engineering technology.

10 years ago, california residents, in a state housing more civil and technological engineering industry than pretty much any other state in the union, voted to approve a project for a high speed railway that incorporates technology that already exists in many other places in the world.

The track still does not exist, and the project has ballooned exponentially over its originally forecasted costs. The CEO of the CHSRA makes more money than the CEO of amtrak and hes managing a track that does not exist, in the most liberal state in the country.

Can we really compare public works in the early 1900s to now?

[Wonkie]

anyone who cant build a rocket will be used as fertilizer for the pocky fields in the Glorious Melonreich

[maskedmelon]

Thats true but the other side of the story is government investment is needed when the market finds such investment too risky. For example, spending a ton of money to bring electricity to the poor rural south in the 30s-40s.

Other inventions include -- IDK -- the internet, television, space travel etc...

We managed to do without paying some CEO millions are year.

Just remember that when the head of one of the 6 networks we have is going on about job creators and the wonders of the private sector.

When it comes to a wall I don't trust the private sector to build it cheaper even though it could theoretically. There is too little oversight on our government right now, everyone's hand is out, and the idea that we can hire a private company without getting the pants scammed off us and making a few more CEO millionaires is pretty laughable.

Even it was slightly cheaper, so what? It's got to be a lot cheaper to justify privatization at this point. If the government is wasting money, at least some of that waste goes to overpaid workers rather than just more overpaid capitalists.

i agree on the problem of government engaging the private sector for hire to solve the problem. that was the point I was trying (but failed :o ) to illustrate. when the government engages private enterprise it gets fleeced because it lacks specialized expertise and has no profit motive. And no, the inflated prices that governmental entities pay enrich capitalists as much as they do workers, if not more.

this happens because the government is largely ignorant of what it is purchasing and in an attempt at responsible fund management seeks the most competitive prices which are often the least comprehensive / honest products. the entire structure is a beacon for slimeballs.

the private sector on its own achieves much better results. the problem is getting private entities to undertake public works on their own when there is often little to no profit motive.

[maskedmelon]

anyone who cant build a rocket will be used as fertilizer for the pocky fields in the Glorious Melonreich

you're such an an extraordinary goober sometimes.

[Wonkie]

you're such an an extraordinary goober sometimes.

let's eliminate all taxes to spur technological innovation and make a great leap forward

[Throndor]

let's eliminate all taxes to spur technological innovation and make a great leap forward

Lol. It'll be like the wild wild west...but with Jetsons cars, and rocket packs! And railguns and xray glasses.