******Official politics thread ******

[Wonkie]

Here goes wonkie, pivotting to the right when his leftist position becomes untenable.

Personal liberty = personal responsibility, pedo-fag.

i like to steal ppls faces and wear em around postingtown

[maskedmelon]

there you go again selling our souls to mammon

i thought i asked you to knock it off?

okay, have fun in your state of nature ^^/~

[Throndor]

i mean, i support gov't funding of healthcare so it's not like your question is far off the mark, and i still give you the benefit of being a good faith poster unlike mr. p or scared child


No, when the people are paying for it, they are the ones enabling the procedure. The healthcare industry is merely an individual profiting (scary words there) off of the opportunity to perform the procedure.

If im paying for something that is caused by someone else's negligent self-management i expect that person to be doing everything they can to minimize my fucking costs.

If i hire a purchasing manager at my company that buys whatever the fuck he wants at whatever fucking price pops up in front of him, im firing his ass for being a negligent piece of shit that isnt putting the company's best interest at the forefront.

Your rationale is stupid as fuck. How is this even a viable answer to the question?

Sorry if i went over your head, with concepts such as "profit" and putting a company's interest in front of whatever comes easiest to you.

I take it you work in IT or some other non profit-generating aspect of the company u work for? Or are you fucking unemployed and entirely worthless?

[maskedmelon]

yes

you feel it is your responsibility to pay for that man's poor choices?

[Wonkie]

okay, have fun in your state of nature ^^/~

rights are not gifts from government

[maskedmelon]

rights are not gifts from government

you have a right to money from the government?

[Wonkie]

you have a right to money from the government?

oh dear i broke his melon :3

[maskedmelon]

oh dear i broke his melon :3

your such a turd sometimes, i swear lol

[Wonkie]

your such a turd sometimes, i swear lol

it's 99% of my charm

[Throndor]

Welcome to the conversation Asteria. These entitled children are your allies in the quest for free shit paid for with the money in my pocket.

And good night.

[maskedmelon]

it's 99% of my charm

it's a talent and it draws smiles, so I'll grant you that

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/uj07DUE.jpg

I could achieve with no appreciable weight gain. Mad?

[maskedmelon]

Welcome to the conversation Asteria. These entitled children are your allies in the quest for free shit paid for with the money in my pocket.

And good night.

night thrond, think imma get to sleep too

[Wonkie]

I could achieve with no appreciable weight gain. Mad?

anyone who can eat that much deserves respect. period.

[maskedmelon]

I smoked a pack of clove cigars and ate several steaks ovre the holidays. i know i claimed to be 1000% vegetarian during that time and it was a lie. im sorry about that

im VERY healthy

:eek:


im proud of you :(

[Asteria]

https://youtu.be/V_laNt7Sh6g

Ron Swanson reminds me of my best friend. :D

[misterbonkers]

you feel it is your responsibility to pay for that man's poor choices?

not mine, individually, no. but i think pitching in some of my taxes covering something going wrong for him is perfectly reasonable. because there's way more factors than just poor eating habits that might cause him something that needs health care.

[Asteria]

what if you get naked and take pictures for me? what then? this clearly invalidates bernie's economic platform

Speeding too, what a load of gibberish that platform is! Reckless driving, one too many drinks...the list of invalidations could go on for thousands of pages! :eek:

[Irulan]

Id pay for education and a dietitian and exercise program that requires attendance and tracking.

I am an actual not a Z though. My belief in eugenics and strong authoritarianism is pretty strong. If misguided and doomed to fail.

[Irulan]

I like seatbelt and helmet laws. If in theory anyway, it is nice they're at least on the books.

[Wonkie]

TIL libertarian websites are a great resource for being annoying online

[Asteria]

I too am really mad about this. That $500 y/r would go a long way for me.

Thankfully the VA qualifies.

I just hate seeing the kind of behavior that I witnessed as so damaging perpetuated systematically for some bozos profit.

I hope VA working out good or okay for ya! :) It can be a bit of a struggle to get choice coverage for non-VA services for my besty/roomy here some distance away from a major city in a rural area. The majority of their employees mean well though even when some weird/slow stuff happens once in awhile and are very helpful & respectful to my friend. I'd say he'd probably give it a B+ or A- overall. I'll ask him when he gets back from his IV antibiotic infusion in about an hour to confirm. He is quite allergic to Cipro and has had some nasty bug in his kidney infection for a pretty long time they've decided to take a go at with IV antibiotics.

[Asteria]

A lot of the government defense spending is done so to ensure we remain the Apex of military might throughout the world. I know you'd like to eliminate dark military spending; hell we all would, but its a necessary evil to make sure that some other fucking country doesn't take over and use Might to make right. If you think that the reason why everyone else is playing nice is because people and governments are inherently nice; you're fucking delusional. What, throughout human history validates this viewpoint?


We can't all be pacifists and remain at the top of the world. Someone's gotta do the dirty work of making sure you can sleep peacefully at night without fear of autocratic powers destroying the serenity our government has created out of chaos. The natural state of the world and humanity is chaos, not order. Totally baffling concept I know.

Who would've thought that we could've stopped Hitler's Encroachment by putting Michael Jackson on stage at the Super Bowl to sing some sappy shit about holding hands, across the world?

Who would've thought, that all we had to do to end the occupation of east germany and the balkans under communist rule was to use the correct word combination to dismantle the USSR's agressive posturing.


You forgot the part though where I mentioned all the $$$ in pork and over-estimated defense contracts that goes to management and corporate boards of directors types that are making a killing in profits, stocks, & personal incomes from a lot of the DoD defense budget. Obviously there isn't going to be too much oversight and watch-dogging of this when these mega companies fund the campaigns of the politicians and then will hire them later on for something dependable and/or lucrative if they acted like good political pets while they were "representing the people." This is just *PART* of what some call corporate welfare or could be referred to as socialism for mega corps. Can we agree we are both against this? And of course this applies to many mega industries - not just defense. But defense companies and other companies like big oil make a good chunk of this corporate welfare.

You're so fucking naive its retarded.

Why the name-calling if you're winning an argument?

[Wonkie]

i dont know what im iterating. maybe its anarchcommunism, it would be nice to charge my JO crystal with noam chomsky someday

looking forward to a great 2019! :)

[Asteria]

Does Trump get credit for this yet? (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-december-nonfarm-payrolls-grew-by-312-000-jobless-rate-rose-to-3-9-11546609016)

You guys were about to blame him for the economy a few weeks ago when the market tanked.

I am the chief editor for Wapo, NYT, and the LA times. I am executive producer at MSNBC & HBO.

What high positions in our super liberal MSM do the rest of you "leftists" here hold?

[Throndor]

Annual Salary
$48525
Biweekly Withholding for Child Support $ 402.00
Net Pay after withholdings Bi-weekly: $1013.71
Cost of Healthcare prorated to bi-weekly $87.23
Net Pay after Withholding if Opted for 3,500 deductible healthcare plan employer matched with a 35$ doctor's office copay and 30$ Prescription CoPay - 926.48

Net Monthly Income (Uninsured) - $2196.37
Monthly Rent (shared) San Jose $1025.00
Student Loan Payment - 322.19
Transportation costs (including 134mile round trip biweekly to pick up kids with substantial holiday obligations 27.5% timeshare) $239.00 for gas only with a Hybrid
Employer owns vehicle and pays insurance
Gym Membership: 25$/month

Obamacare bronze quotes me $279.00/month.

Please explain how this is "affordable" healthcare?

Also, how much of the remaining $585.18 of mine and my children's food money do I owe you, you fucking cocksucking fat lazy ass piece of shit?

[Throndor]

How much of MY MONEY do I owe you for EEKING your way through life!?!

I've given you complete financial disclosure. I DEMAND A GODDAMN ANSWER!

[Wonkie]

Annual Salary
$48525
Biweekly Withholding for Child Support $ 402.00
Net Pay after withholdings Bi-weekly: $1013.71
Cost of Healthcare prorated to bi-weekly $87.23
Net Pay after Withholding if Opted for 3,500 deductible healthcare plan employer matched with a 35$ doctor's office copay and 30$ Prescription CoPay - 926.48

Net Monthly Income (Uninsured) - $2196.37
Monthly Rent (shared) San Jose $1025.00
Student Loan Payment - 322.19
Transportation costs (including 134mile round trip biweekly to pick up kids with substantial holiday obligations 27.5% timeshare) $239.00 for gas only with a Hybrid
Employer owns vehicle and pays insurance
Gym Membership: 25$/month

Obamacare bronze quotes me $279.00/month.

Please explain how this is "affordable" healthcare?

Also, how much of the remaining $585.18 of mine and my children's food money do I owe you, you fucking cocksucking fat lazy ass piece of shit?

you would greatly benefit from communism, comrade. you are the underclass in our capitalist hellscape.

[Wonkie]

I am the chief editor for Wapo, NYT, and the LA times. I am executive producer at MSNBC & HBO.

What high positions in our super liberal MSM do the rest of you "leftists" here hold?

im spiderman. i shoot webs.

[Throndor]

You forgot the part though where I mentioned all the $$$ in pork and over-estimated defense contracts that goes to management and corporate boards of directors types that are making a killing in profits, stocks, & personal incomes from a lot of the DoD defense budget. Obviously there isn't going to be too much oversight and watch-dogging of this when these mega companies fund the campaigns of the politicians and then will hire them later on for something dependable and/or lucrative if they acted like good political pets while they were "representing the people." This is just *PART* of what some call corporate welfare or could be referred to as socialism for mega corps. Can we agree we are both against this? And of course this applies to many mega industries - not just defense. But defense companies and other companies like big oil make a good chunk of this corporate welfare.



Why the name-calling if you're winning an argument?
We are in agreement on this. This is not a partisan issue, however. BOTH parties refuse to address the inefficiencies, just like BOTH PARTIES are failing to address how mega corporations being able to buy their own public stock back and then distribute it freely as bonuses to their executive board is causing massive inflation in the stock market which is why we're looking at another recession around the corner.

Wanna know why BOTH PARTIES ignore this while they stand around with their dicks in their hands jizzing all over each others' shoes? Because Citizens United, and lobbyist are cutting them all in on the deal. Neither party is addressing systemic issues. Don't pretend like the democrats a flying fuck about this. What did Obama do in 8 years in office to combat these ponzi schemes?

[Asteria]

Thats because you posted a rapid fire barrage of talking points without much detail and thought reinforcing them. Lets start over again. Youve stated 4 positions. Lets start with one.

Explain, in detail, how you intend to:

"Improve healthcare": please be sure to detail how personal accountability toward individuals adopting a concientiously healthy lifestyle is part of it. The right does not want to share the healthcare costs of sipporting morbidly obese america.

But....have you seen the rates of obesity in many many parts of rural America where the majority of people vote Republican?? :confused: Please define "The right" a little better for me.

How are premiums going to remain cost-effective and profitable/break evenable even if we outright publicize the healthcare insurance industry.

Well, I'm not sure because the healthcare industry would have to go through a tremendous change if we became single-payer. I'm not afraid of tremendous changes with the goal of taking care of everyone's health. (Including the wealthy). Our corrupt politicians supposedly get free health care(is it for life?) that is pretty good for them. I think with easier access to primary providers more often with primary providers getting more hand-on with peoples' diets & exercise routines, we could all become healthier. Maybe our doctors should shame people by asking obese people regularly something along the lines of "Do you really want to die 20 years younger?" or "not see your grandchildren grow up?"

Yes, a lot of tremendous and sky-high profits would drop. There is a lot of space between profitability and "Holy shit!! we made this much $$$$ this year!"

How are the asking prices of healthcare services going to be kept reasonable without competition?

I'm not an expert on the minutiae of this and don't care to be but I have faith that IF WE had smart and honest representatives of us in DC that shared my desire for more effective and universal healthcare, they could work on this together and consult the right experts to figure out the finer details of this stuff. I don't like to dive too deep into fine details that bore me or aren't going to improve my life in some way. I'm not planning to go into government, economics, or the healthcare industry at this point in my life.

[Throndor]

you would greatly benefit from communism, comrade. you are the underclass in our capitalist hellscape.

EXCEPT, YOU FAIL TO REMEMBER THAT EVEN WHEN I WAS FUCKING HOMELESS LIVING IN A TENT WITH A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT AND A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS THERE WAS NOTHING THESE PEICES OF SHIT WOULD DO FOR ME.

THE ONLY WAY OUT WAS ME!!!!!

ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY FOR! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE THAT THE MONEY GOES TO. ITS NEVER YOU!!!!!
ITS A FUCKING LIE!

[Throndor]

I'm not an expert on the minutiae of this and don't care to be but I have faith that IF WE had smart and honest representatives of us in DC that shared my desire for more effective and universal healthcare, they could work on this together and consult the right experts to figure out the finer details of this stuff.

Dude, EVEN the experts can't answer these questions. If they could, we would already have the answers to search for and paste in response to these questions.

[Wonkie]

EXCEPT, YOU FAIL TO REMEMBER THAT EVEN WHEN I WAS FUCKING HOMELESS LIVING IN A TENT WITH A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT AND A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS THERE WAS NOTHING THESE PEICES OF SHIT WOULD DO FOR ME.

THE ONLY WAY OUT WAS ME!!!!!

ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY FOR! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE THAT THE MONEY GOES TO. ITS NEVER YOU!!!!!
ITS A FUCKING LIE!

the democrats aren't communists

hope this helps

*saved to disk*

[Asteria]

Lets drop a suffix in this whole discussion:

What % of YOUR health, is YOUR fault/responsibility/Obligation to cover the costs on?
And
What % of YOUR health, is eveyone else im the country's fault/responsibility/obligation to cover the costs on?

Mind you we've already had measures in place to care for the physically and mentally infirm for the past 50 years. We're talking about YOU and I here.

I dont even have insurance. Havent been able to afford it since ACA, and its cheaper to pay the penalty + buy anitbiotics from the aquatic supply store to keep in cabinet. Used to have comprehensive HMO for 93$/month before ACA with employer matching half.

They want $689 for same plan now and my own employer aint paying for it at all since its now cost prohibitive to offer said plan. He offers a shitty high deductible ppo plan now, that used to cost 35$/month without an employer match for 189$/month after employer pays half.

ACA has been bad for a lot of people and sorry to hear you are one of them! :mad: :( It's been good for others but for this to happen at the expense of you and many others who aren't incredibly wealthy is very sad and has further divided politics in the USA it seems.

Pre-ACA or Post-ACA...I think we can do much better than either choice with representatives not beholden to wealthy elites. Yes, Citizens United needs to go ASAP because it is a horrible ruling.

[Throndor]

As i've already alluded to with stock buybacks...check this out..


From the end of the Great Depression, when stock buybacks were originally outlawed because of the stock market crash they they took part in causing...the stock valuation of the NYSE was fairly linear all the way until 1980s

In the 1980s, public corporations were de-regulated to be able to buy their own stock back. Ever since then, the stock market valuation has followed a growth pattern that is exponential look at the DJIA and the S&P500 and the trend line for the Nasdaq composite, notice how it exponentially increases and then in 2008/2009 it plummets back down to where the valuation WOULD have been if it continued it's linear trend throughout the 80s and 90s and '00-aughts?

Thats because the true value of stock market growth is a linear function related to inflation and slow market growth.

Now, after 2009 brought the stock market back down to reality look at the growth trend again? Notice how it rapidly regained it's exponential growth nature until now, where it has began rapidly eroding again?

Take a ruler out and apply the linear growth expectation to the stock market.

If economic growth is a linear equation, instead of the exponential equation it has trended along since stock buybacks were deregulated in the 1980s. We're due for a 60 to 65% stock market recession right now.

This is because our politicians ON BOTH SIDES for the past 30 years have been allowing corporations to make a ponzi scheme out of the stock market, because the corporations are giving them a cut.

The average wealth growth of a member of congress in the US is 1.6million$/year, but their salary is $174,000/year.

Where is the additional 1.425million coming from?! This is not a partisan issue.

Voting "Democrat" is not going to solve it, it's just going to further erode your personal liberties.; Their promise has been a lie for the past 30 years. At least the republicans are being honest about robbing you and I but even then we should be voting all these incumbent pieces of shit out of office and supporting TED CRUZ's CAREER ENDING BILL that calls for putting term-limits on congress in both houses. THe left is now OPPOSING term limits because the right is suggesting it. Its fucking ridiculous all these fucking crooks need to be out on their ass.

[Asteria]

This is a dosingenuous statement. The vast majority of americans, before ACA tripled the price of healthcare premiums were still morbidly obese.

The medical industry cannot fix an overindulgent, compulsive, lethargic lifestyle.

The ACA seemed to mostly just change finacial aspects and nothing very dramatically not connected to finance. I believe our healthcare system needs a much more robust transformation than what the ACA did.

[Throndor]

not mine, individually, no. but i think pitching in some of my taxes covering something going wrong for him is perfectly reasonable. because there's way more factors than just poor eating habits that might cause him something that needs health care.

Check my financial disclosure asshole. I do mind paying even 1 dollar more than I'm currently paying this financially incompetent government.

Every fucking dollar is a dollar your taking out of mine and my children's mouth with your retarded ass voting for imaginary people. They aren't giving me a fucking thing, son.

Care to release your financial details before you go spouting bullshit about how everyone should should be able afford your Altruistic faggotry?!

[ScaringChildren]

Conservative PWNS stupid sjw with FACTS and REASON (https://youtu.be/2D2Ibv42Qyg)

(he also identifies as a reason)

[Throndor]

As upper-middle class plinks away in their + $100k/year salary with the government telling them sad stories about "poor people" below them to get them to support increasing taxation with the fake promise that it's not going to affect people in my position, they plod onward increasing taxes and literally driving me back down into poverty with increasing taxation.

It's fucking bullshit. They're NOT HELPING US. STOP FUCKING BURYING US WITH YOUR ALTRUISTIC STUPIDITY!!!! STOP BELIEVING THE LEFT's LIES they not giving your (AND MY) taxes to me! ITS NOT HAPPENING.

BOTTOM UP ECONOMICS ISN"T HAPPENING!!!

Youre fucking killing us down here. GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR WAY with your support of MORE taxes! WE"RE NOT EVEN ASKING YOU FOR YOUR FUCKING MONEY. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR MONEY. STOP!

[ScaringChildren]

Throndor, don't worry.

The civil war is upon us.

Soon we will be bathing in the warm blood of Communists and drinking beers :)

[Wonkie]

Conservative PWNS stupid sjw with FACTS and REASON (https://youtu.be/2D2Ibv42Qyg)

(he also identifies as a reason)

clicked around, it's the balding guy doing usenet style replies on a twitch video

BTFO with MORE THAN A FEELING

[misterbonkers]

EXCEPT, YOU FAIL TO REMEMBER THAT EVEN WHEN I WAS FUCKING HOMELESS LIVING IN A TENT WITH A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT AND A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS THERE WAS NOTHING THESE PEICES OF SHIT WOULD DO FOR ME.

THE ONLY WAY OUT WAS ME!!!!!

ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY FOR! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE THAT THE MONEY GOES TO. ITS NEVER YOU!!!!!
ITS A FUCKING LIE!

i want to take the communism off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUeBKC-1oaY)

[Throndor]

i want to take the communism off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUeBKC-1oaY)

Yeah yeah, real fucking cute chump.

Are you going to disclose your financial situation and then stand by your faggotty ass statements about how we should all pay for your repugnant lifestyle, or are you going to shut the fuck up and realize YOU ARE WAY THE FUCK OUT OF LINE!

[Wonkie]

oh well i guess hes a psycho

dino can we drive you mad next?

[Throndor]

oh well i guess hes a psycho

dino can we drive you mad next?

It's an anonymous message board, pedo-fag.

Why are you so scared to reveal your financial situation, your political position, and your actual true thoughts on matters?

What is the consequence of being authentic here? Aside from undermining your projected persona of liberalist douchebaggery.

Are your imaginary video game friends going to tease you!?

What are you fucking afraid of?

[Wonkie]

It's an anonymous message board, pedo-fag.

Why are you so scared to reveal your financial situation, your political position, and your actual true thoughts on matters?

What is the consequence of being authentic here? Aside from undermining your projected persona of liberalist douchebaggery.

Are your imaginary video game friends going to tease you!?

What are you fucking afraid of?

im looking for the best deal on soda atm

ok google where do i get sugar drink

god i love capitalism

[Throndor]

ACA has been bad for a lot of people and sorry to hear you are one of them! :mad: :( It's been good for others but for this to happen at the expense of you and many others who aren't incredibly wealthy is very sad and has further divided politics in the USA it seems.

Pre-ACA or Post-ACA...I think we can do much better than either choice with representatives not beholden to wealthy elites. Yes, Citizens United needs to go ASAP because it is a horrible ruling.

it needs to be outright repealed. It's literally destroying the lower-middle class and making a huge gap where there is absolutely no incentive for working.

The left likes to argue for a "living wage" of $15.00/hour; the reality is it needs to be closer to 20/hr in the bay area if you want to eliminate government subsidy, and even then a single person would be living hand-to-mouth in a studio apartment at that rate likely without insurance. (rent @ 1400/month); don't even think about trying that with a family. I guess you could get away with cramming into a 2bedroom apartment in the gang-infested shitholes and watch as degenerate peices of shit try to impregnate your teenage daughters before they're hauled off to prison in the next year or two for violently assaulting/killing some innocent person as an initiation rite into the gang/prison-culture; thus perpetuating "the cycle" those poor gang-bangers.

In areas such as Longview, WA where a 3 br single family home runs 1200 to 1300/month with both people working full time and 1 child in full time daycare 15$/hr under the left's current taxation scheme is doable, if neither parent smokes, drinks, and they both refuse to pay for healthcare for themselves and the children.
Note Aside: I say the "left's current tax scheme" because my withholdings did not change since they were raised in the Obama era despite Trump's supposed "tax breaks", but maybe my tax return will be different when I file for my taxes next month, not very hopeful. I doubt I'll ever see the 3% hike back that came under Obama-fucklord's reign

I don't think the not-so theoretical Longview, WA family would qualify for "Healthy Families" at that rate, so the children would be uninsured, as well.

The left's support of increased taxation is ridiculous. You're essentially supporting an economic system where anyone short of a doctor/lawyer/tenured professor/private business owner with the capital to invest in all of the highly regulated insurance and bonds requirements, or someone without "connections" into a lucrative career in business (most people without "connections" are paid about 40% less than you are) are going to find it much easier to just give up altogether and go into Section 8, SNAP (Food stamps), and free government healthcare for their children while opting out of healthcare for themselves.

But hey, at least fat degenerate pieces of shit are not being disqualified for "pre-existing" conditions with their genetic thyroid issues, or whatever other imaginary excuses they can conjure for being morbidly obese and a huge fucking drain on the healthcare system.

PS. If "thyroid" issues are genetic, than why does 50% of the population have them now, when 40 years ago they were closer to 3%? Must be some sort of fluke pundit square occurence we didn't cover in biology classes. Oh well, I digress. What do i gno, anyways!?

[Wonkie]

it needs to be outright repealed. It's literally destroying the lower-middle class and making a huge gap where there is absolutely no incentive for working.

The left likes to argue for a "living wage" of $15.00/hour; the reality is it needs to be closer to 20/hr in the bay area if you want to eliminate government subsidy, and even then a single person would be living hand-to-mouth in a studio apartment at that rate likely without insurance. (rent @ 1400/month)

In areas such as Longview, WA where a 3 br single family home runs 1200 to 1300/month with both people working full time and 1 child in full time daycare 15$/hr under the left's current taxation scheme is doable, if neither parent smokes, drinks, and they both refuse to pay for healthcare for themselves and the children.
Note Aside: I say the "left's current tax scheme" because my withholdings did not change since they were raised in the Obama era despite Trump's supposed "tax breaks", but maybe my tax return will be different when I file for my taxes next month, not very hopeful. I doubt I'll ever see the 3% hike back that came under Obama-fucklord's reign

I don't think the not-so theoretical Longview, WA family would qualify for "Healthy Families" at that rate, so the children would be uninsured, as well.

The left's support of increased taxation is ridiculous. You're essentially supporting an economic system where anyone short of a doctor/lawyer/tenured professor or someone without "connections" into a lucrative career in business (most people without "connections" are paid about 40% less than you are) are going to find it much easier to just give up altogether and go into Section 8, SNAP (Food stamps), and free government healthcare for their children while opting out of healthcare for themselves.

But hey, at least fat degenerate pieces of shit are not being disqualified for "pre-existing" conditions with their genetic thyroid issues, or whatever other imaginary excuses the conjure for being morbidly obese and a huge fucking drain on the healthcare system.

PS. If "thyroid" issues are genetic, than why does 50% of the population have them now, when 40 years ago they were closer to 3%? Must be some sort of fluke pundit square occurence we didn't cover in biology classes. Oh well, I digress. What do i gno, anyways!?

sacrifice one and you sacrifice all. it's called solidarity, dingus.

[Throndor]

sacrifice one and you sacrifice all. it's called solidarity, dingus.

Yeah, except for the whole part about how despite having several chances to change anything in the past 25 years, the left has kinda just increased taxes and shit on us down here while telling you guys, up there, that they're helping us.

We'd prefer if you just rescinded the taxes and regulations, and just got the fuck out of our way at this point, bro.

No hard feelings. They had a pretty cool story, bro. Didn't actually do anything, so you mind scootching over to the right? Trying to get by you.

Thanks, bro.

Sure you understand.

Regards,
Throndor

[misterbonkers]

Yeah yeah, real fucking cute chump.

Are you going to disclose your financial situation and then stand by your faggotty ass statements about how we should all pay for your repugnant lifestyle, or are you going to shut the fuck up and realize YOU ARE WAY THE FUCK OUT OF LINE!

i make 90k a year as a tier 2 tech support for a for profit college

i pay more in taxes than you make in a month

or maybe im making this all up to make you mad, so kiss my white naked ass

[Tethler]

You guys broke Throndor. He's somehow become even more toxic and ranty.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, except for the whole part about how despite having several chances to change anything in the past 25 years, the left has kinda just increased taxes and shit on us down here while telling you guys, up there, that they're helping us.

We'd prefer if you just rescinded the taxes and regulations, and just got the fuck out of our way at this point, bro.

No hard feelings. They had a pretty cool story, bro. Didn't actually do anything, so you mind scootching over to the right? Trying to get by you.

Thanks, bro.

Sure you understand.

Regards,
Throndor

dsa caucus gonna exterminate u lol

[Throndor]

Lol i always laugh when the left tries to talk about the need for increasin taxes. Like those of us down here give a fuck if the government goes insolvent and bankrupt. It kind of implies that if our slumlord defaults on his obligations to the bank that some other slumlord wont just come in and take the former slumlord's place.

Dont really fucking care if fat degenerate 19 year olds with early onset diabetes cant get free healthcare while refusing to work because the government, all of a sudden, cant afford medi-Cal anymore and needs my money to pay for it. Id rather eat the paltry sum of spare change im afforded. They were already affording medi-Cal before they came asking for a handout from the poor why do they need my pocket change now, too?

[Throndor]

dsa caucus gonna exterminate u lol

Your fat ass would have to get up off the couch, beat me in a foot race, and then outmaneuver me in combat as well, first.

Aint tripping bro. Funny thing about fighting tooth n nail for everything we've ever got in this life....we good at fightin' too, son. Bring it on, fatass. You might learn one more thing before your light is extinguished.

Cheers,
Throndor

[rebeccablack]

maybe you could afford your brain pills if we pass universal healthcare?

[Tethler]

Your fat ass would have to get up off the couch, beat me in a foot race, and then outmaneuver me in combat as well, first.

Aint tripping bro. Funny thing about fighting tooth n nail for everything we've ever got in this life....we good at fightin' too, son. Bring it on, fatass. You might learn one more thing before your light is extinguished.

Cheers,
Throndor

This is Lulzsect-level overcompensation. Nobody is impressed.

You keep asking people to engage you in conversation and this is how you post here. This is why you get non-stop troll responses.

[misterbonkers]

maybe you could afford your brain pills if we pass universal healthcare?

[Throndor]

This is Lulzsect-level overcompensation. Nobody is impressed.

You keep asking people to engage you in conversation and this is how you post here. This is why you get non-stop troll responses.

Uh huh. Skip over everything said and dive into the conversation butthole first to defend a contrarian communist symoathizer bro. Care to disclose your financial details, spock?

[Throndor]

Real easy to defend government mandated giving of you and everyone else below you economically, to imaginary people that dont even exist, when youre doing alright yourself.

We're all you. We're all the same, but we're different. But we're the same.

Yay. We can all afford. Pipe dreams n shit. Ooo shiny thing.

[Throndor]

How much of mine and my childrens food money do i need to donate to fatass landwhales soaking up healthcare benefits this month, comrade?

[misterbonkers]

How much of mine and my childrens food money do i need to donate to fatass landwhales soaking up healthcare benefits this month, comrade?

i want to take the ears off

please

[Throndor]

i want to take the ears off

please

But you're hooked. We talking 4,000 views in the past 3 hours. Admit it. Youre enthralled. Cant stop looking. Absolutely stunned by the revelations a mother fuckers laying down. Political theory is all fun n games when we tossing memes, quarreling over meaningless shit, and voting with other peoples pocketbooks because we're all the same (but different, but the same...till we're not) but when it gets real, real knows real.

Cheers.

[rebeccablack]

youve been posting nonsense for 14 hours

[misterbonkers]

i've peeked in here like twice between cs:go rounds while dead

lmao

[Throndor]

youve been posting nonsense for 14 hours

And yet you cant stop looking. You are absolutely stuck rolling back into this dark corner of the web, to see the next insight a mother fucker is going to lay down.

Even had to comment. Just in hopes of drawing out anything more.

[rebeccablack]

yea i have a habit of rubbernecking

get well soon

[Throndor]

How much of my (585-147=342)$ in food money for my children and i do i owe the "greater good"?

(im putting 68$/bi-weekly into the stock market too, so....subtract 147.33 prorated from monthly non-allocated survival income)

Really, how much more blood does this turnip owe?!

Im pretty sure i saw some heroin addicts down the street living under the bridge begging money at the freeway onramp earlier.

Do i just give my "extra" money to them, or do i need to filter it through the beurocratic government collection points first, for it to "count"? Or do i just pick a random person who isnt as white as me to give it to? Looking for some direction, here. Anyone?

I mean, id work overtime so i could give more, to the greater good, but im salaried so i dont get more money for working extra hours. Does working hours still count anyways? You know, to make up for all those sjw tinder kids that are disabled and "cant" work?

[Throndor]

What happened? Whered all the "friends" go? I thought "lived experience", emotion, and "subjective reality" was to be elevated above objective reality, because objective reality doesnt exist.

I mean, im fairly positive that was Wonkie's stance this morning! I shared my "lived experience" and yet that still doesnt matter because it doesnt match your guys' "lived experience"?

*cries*

[Throndor]

YEEEEEYAH!

TAX THE RICH, BRO!

FUCK IT, THEYRE RICH THEY CAN AFFORD IT.

RAISE THE INCOME TAX RATES ACROSS THE BOARD! THEYRE RICH!! FUCK EM!

(Nevermind that "income tax" is not how the rich actually make their money, but details dont matter. We're retarded n shit.)


TAX THE RICH, BRO!

[Tethler]

Uh huh. Skip over everything said and dive into the conversation butthole first to defend a contrarian communist symoathizer bro. Care to disclose your financial details, spock?

Why should I bother giving you a serious response when you refuse to engage in civil discourse?

[Throndor]

Why should I bother giving you a serious response when you refuse to engage in civil discourse?

Define civil discourse?

We have to leave all of our rhetorical strategies in the abstract, depersonalized sense?

We're discussing political elements that have an actual, personal economic effect on people. If you are able to and want to help "the poor"(er) then donate to the fucking poor(er) directly. Dont fucking volunteer my fucking money to imaginary people with your vote.

Im already helping 4 real actual poor(er) people. They're mine and my girlfriends children. I dont need imaginary people in distant imaginary lands to support, i already have real actual people right in front of me.

When i quite clearly express how your political stances are personally negatively affecting me CONTRARY to what your political leaders are telling you they are intended to do, thats a foul and suddenly determined to be uncivil and out of bounds.

The leftist position is severely negatively affecting me, and people that are on equivelent sociopolitical economic standing with me DESPITE what your political leaders are telling you.

Dont like that reality? Stop fucking voting to increase the goddamn burden the state is putting on me and people in the same position as me, while conjuring ghosts and imaginary people that have yet to step forward into reality and reveal themselves as justification for your persecution.

Seriously, fuck you.

[Tethler]

Define civil discourse?

Personal attacks are the opposite of civil discourse.

When i quite clearly express how your political stances are personally negatively affecting me CONTRARY to what you political leaders are telling you they are intended to do, thats a foul and suddenly determined to be uncivil and out of bounds.

I'm not saying it's out of bounds. I'm saying don't expect people to give you real responses when you call them faggots and shit.

The leftist position is severely negatively affecting me, and people that are on equivelent sociopolitical economic standing with me DESPITE what your political leaders are telling you.

Maybe it is. If so, that's unfortunate.

Dont like that reality? Stop fucking voting to increase the goddamn burden the state is putting on me and people in the same position as me.

Alternately, stop voting for the party intent on deregulating every-fucking-thing so everyone isn't getting gouged by a "health care" industry that is more concerned with quarterly profits than actual care and the insurance premiums that are bending you over won't be so high.

Seriously, fuck you.

Pass. I have a girlfriend and I'm certain shes a much better fuck than you.

[Throndor]

Alternately, stop voting for the party intent on deregulating every-fucking-thing so everyone isn't getting gouged by a "health care" industry that is more concerned with quarterly profits than actual care and the insurance premiums that are bending you over won't be so high.

I dont vote along party lines, but if it comes to a vote between the party that wants to increases taxes on ME vs voting on the party that intends to get themselves richer while both parties are simultaneously ignoring the real, actual issues, what do i do?

Whos running on a platform of abolishing stock buybacks, and dismantling or substantially restructuring labor unions that disporoportionately reward members well past the retirement age over members entering or midway through their careers? Who's running on a platform of ending citizens united and allowing the truly rich to skirt estate tax laws by bequeathing corporate ownership through board of director appointment and corporate tax loopholes? Whos running on a platform of meritocracy over nepotism? Whos running on a platform of standardizing public company's dividend returns based formulaically on their net profits. Whos running on a platform for establishing meaningful public corporate pay structure that both maintains the heirarchy of the pay structure while meaningfully distributing profits thoughout ALL of the organizations employees. Publically traded corporations are public institutions. Why are both parties allowing them to run like private instititutions?

The left isnt attacking the rich. Theyre attacking wage earners. The rich arent "wage earners"

The offensive language enters because those supporting the left are either incredibly ignorant as to how things really work, or they are outright disingenuously suckering the common populace into fucking themselves and those in worse position than themselves over while THINKING that theyre "sticking it to the (white) man."

[Throndor]

I mean, think about it bro.

Why does the wealthiest government in the history of the world need ME, a father of 4, to pay for some fatass overindulgent landwhale's increased insurance expenses? Is that fucking compulsive peice of shit's insurance more important than my 4 children's?

I have enough expenses, and i dont even fucking have insurance because of how cost prohibitive the left has made insurance in the past 8 years.

[Throndor]

Furthermore, its not just "unfortunate". It's a god damned travesty of justice.

Dont expect us to remain civil, when youre quite literally using ththe government to pickpocket money out of our wallets, and stealing our children's food off the table to pay for medical and educational luxuries for a group of people that have no intention of minimizing the cost burdens they are foisting on the rest of society.

All the while simultaneously biting the hand that feeds them while perpetuating anti-american sentiment like a recalcitrant child that wont eat their fucking vegetables and put their plate in the sink before leaving the god damned dinner table of a meal they didnt even fucking pay for.

[Throndor]

Recalcitrant

having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority or discipline

[misterbonkers]

4 back to back posts and we're the ones obsessed

[Tethler]

You're mad that you had 4 kids and you're broke as a result. Keep your dick in your pants if you like having money.

The reason your taxes didn't go down with Trumps tax cuts is because the Republican party doesn't give a shit about you. They cut taxes for the top 10% and shit on everyone elses chest, as per usual.

[Asteria]

Welcome to the conversation Asteria. These entitled children are your allies in the quest for free shit paid for with the money in my pocket.

And good night.

Thanx! :) Let us raise our children well okay? And thanks for being such a generous Daddy warbucks for all of us! I wish I could start seeing Throndor mentioned on my direct deposits and health insurance cards to give proper thanks for all you do for us. :( Until then, I must simply remember and tell all to give thanks to Daddy warbucks Throndor. :) *HUGS*

[Asteria]

anyone who can eat that much deserves respect. period.

not mine, individually, no. but i think pitching in some of my taxes covering something going wrong for him is perfectly reasonable. because there's way more factors than just poor eating habits that might cause him something that needs health care.

I agree with this.

TIL libertarian websites are a great resource for being annoying online

[Asteria]

We are in agreement on this. This is not a partisan issue, however. BOTH parties refuse to address the inefficiencies, just like BOTH PARTIES are failing to address how mega corporations being able to buy their own public stock back and then distribute it freely as bonuses to their executive board is causing massive inflation in the stock market which is why we're looking at another recession around the corner.

Wanna know why BOTH PARTIES ignore this while they stand around with their dicks in their hands jizzing all over each others' shoes? Because Citizens United, and lobbyist are cutting them all in on the deal. Neither party is addressing systemic issues. Don't pretend like the democrats a flying fuck about this. What did Obama do in 8 years in office to combat these ponzi schemes?

Nice post, I pretty much agree. I have no idea what Obama did about these ponzi schemes, not much at all I bet.

[Asteria]

Yeah yeah, real fucking cute chump.

Are you going to disclose your financial situation and then stand by your faggotty ass statements about how we should all pay for your repugnant lifestyle, or are you going to shut the fuck up and realize YOU ARE WAY THE FUCK OUT OF LINE!

Being all bones, he looks about as far away from obese as you can get (obese possibly being repugnant to Throndor)....I'm trying to figure out what else could be considered repugnant about Misterbonkers' lifestyle. :confused:

[Asteria]

Yeah yeah, real fucking cute chump.

Are you going to disclose your financial situation and then stand by your faggotty ass statements about how we should all pay for your repugnant lifestyle, or are you going to shut the fuck up and realize YOU ARE WAY THE FUCK OUT OF LINE!

oh well i guess hes a psycho

It's an anonymous message board, pedo-fag.

Are your imaginary video game friends going to tease you!?

What are you fucking afraid of?

it needs to be outright repealed. It's literally destroying the lower-middle class and making a huge gap where there is absolutely no incentive for working.

I really think you should qualify for medicaid in CA if you make less than $65K or $70K a year, because it is a very expensive state to live in for many more reasons than just high taxes. I know you likely don't but I think the ACA should cover people with your income level for free. This is a huge problem that it doesn't.

The left likes to argue for a "living wage" of $15.00/hour; the reality is it needs to be closer to 20/hr in the bay area if you want to eliminate government subsidy, and even then a single person would be living hand-to-mouth in a studio apartment at that rate likely without insurance. (rent @ 1400/month); don't even think about trying that with a family.

sacrifice one and you sacrifice all. it's called solidarity, dingus.

You guys broke Throndor. He's somehow become even more toxic and ranty.

[Asteria]

dsa caucus gonna exterminate u lol

DSA Libertarian Socialist Caucus (https://dsa-lsc.org/)

"We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race and sex, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships. We are socialists because we are developing a concrete strategy for achieving that vision, for building a majority movement that will make democratic socialism a reality in America."
- Democratic Socialists of America Constitution, Article II

maybe you could afford your brain pills if we pass universal healthcare? ;):eek:

This is Lulzsect-level overcompensation. Nobody is impressed.

You keep asking people to engage you in conversation and this is how you post here. This is why you get non-stop troll responses.

How much of mine and my childrens food money do i need to donate to fatass landwhales soaking up healthcare benefits this month, comrade?

I am still awaiting notice from the Politburo or the Chairman of the party on that exact $. A comrade will find you at work to pass you the note of exact amount of landwhales and price per landwhale. We promise an exact discount on the amount of your childrens' $$ taken for said landwhales based on the percentage of size of an adult human your children are. IF any of your children are actually landwhales, you will instead receive money for them based on the percentage of size they are compared to an adult obese landwhale.

[ScaringChildren]

Throndor did nothing wrong.

You're all Communist roaches who will be slowly exterminated in front of your families.

I'll seize the means of your skull with a chainsaw.

:)

[ScaringChildren]

The ever-growing trend of political violence has me worried.

The other day I saw some psycho threaten others with a chainsaw.

We really need to come together as a nation and heal... FUCKING COMIES I'LL SHIT DOWN YOUR NECKS YOU MOTHER'S FUCKER AND I WILL KICK YOUR DOG TWICE AND NOT EVEN TELL YOU ABOUT IT

[ScaringChildren]

Kratom causes Psychosis (http://speciosa.org/kratom-psychosis-or-reefer-madness-redux/)

Maybe that's why I've been threatening to kill people all day

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/tqXgZwv_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Lune]

You're mad that you had 4 kids and you're broke as a result. Keep your dick in your pants if you like having money.

The reason your taxes didn't go down with Trumps tax cuts is because the Republican party doesn't give a shit about you. They cut taxes for the top 10% and shit on everyone elses chest, as per usual.

truth

[Lojik]

More like top 0.1%

[ScaringChildren]

truth

Except it's not the truth.

I make more per check thanks to Trump's tax cuts.

[JurisDictum]

I spend A lot of time talking about how useless people like Nacy Pelosi are (corporate democrats).

But the reality is, the Democrats have been trying to do something about money and politics (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/01/democrats-propose-campaign-finance-reforms19/) -- Republicans block them every chance they get. Democrats know corporate money is destroying their party and many of them realize it's destroying the country too.

Republicans blame the weak and powerless. Because they know that people -- if given a chance -- will always take an opportunity to think they are superior to others. They would much rather believe those dumber and poorer then them are somehow dragging them down. Its like that guy sucks at competitive games and works up to silver...so he remakes new accounts over and over to bash noobs in bronze. That's the bread and butter Trump voter right there....Trump, who is also a joke to the billionaire trust fund class...but feels better about himself around poor people.

Here's the truth...there's like 25 Trillion US dollars that belong to Multi-national corporations started in America and ran largely by Americans. This money no longer even counts as our 20 trillion dollar economy. If you actually added what these corporations have sold from America via loopholes they lobby for, America would have the same GDP proportionally to the globe that it did during the post war boom.

That's right.

The reason you can't support a family on a regular job like you could in the 40s and 50s....is because corporations have more or less stole that opportunity from this country's population.

It'a just a fact. But we keep hearing illegals, food stamps....the kind of crap they used to talk about before the new deal.

Things are going to have to get really ugly because these people -- and they are horrible people -- there are no good billionaires and very few good millionaires. They won't give up a cent. The only solution I think is going to work in the end is massive electoral change followed by use of the US military to track these people down, and seize assets.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/SXiHaWi_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[ScaringChildren]

I spend A lot of time talking about how useless people like Nacy Pelosi are (corporate democrats).

But the reality is, the Democrats have been trying to do something about money and politics (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/01/democrats-propose-campaign-finance-reforms19/) -- Republicans block them every chance they get. Democrats know corporate money is destroying their party and many of them realize it's destroying the country too.

Republicans blame the weak and powerless. Because they know that people -- if given a chance -- will always take an opportunity to think they are superior to others. They would much rather believe those dumber and poorer then them are somehow dragging them down. Its like that guy sucks at competitive games and works up to silver...so he remakes new accounts over and over to bash noobs in bronze. That's the bread and butter Trump voter right there....Trump, who is also a joke to the billionaire trust fund class...but feels better about himself around poor people.

Here's the truth...there's like 25 Trillion US dollars that belong to Multi-national corporations started in America and ran largely by Americans. This money no longer even counts as our 20 trillion dollar economy. If you actually added what these corporations have sold from America via loopholes they lobby for, America would have the same GDP proportionally to the globe that it did during the post war boom.

That's right.

The reason you can't support a family on a regular job like you could in the 40s and 50s....is because corporations have more or less stole that opportunity from this country's population.

It'a just a fact. But we keep hearing illegals, food stamps....the kind of crap they used to talk about before the new deal.

Things are going to have to get really ugly because these people -- and they are horrible people -- there are no good billionaires and very few good millionaires. They won't give up a cent. The only solution I think is going to work in the end is massive electoral change followed by use of the US military to track these people down, and seize assets.

Ahem...where are the Democrats on this? (https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-term-limit-amendment-term-senate-2019-1)

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/ku2TSSZ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Wonkie]

Ahem...where are the Democrats on this? (https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-term-limit-amendment-term-senate-2019-1)

nobody cares cuz ratifying an amendment is somewhat out of the question in this political climate. it's an empty gesture to improve his faction with independent voters(dullards)

[JurisDictum]

I have a bit more grudging respect for Pelosi because everyone was too much of a pussy to run against her. The truth is, you need someone competing for the job to displace her...no one even thinks they have the clout or wants to fuck with it.

[ScaringChildren]

nobody cares cuz ratifying an amendment is somewhat out of the question in this political climate. it's an empty gesture to improve his faction with independent voters(dullards)

And yet no Democrats showed support...

[Ahldagor]

Except it's not the truth.

I make more per check thanks to Trump's tax cuts.

Do you have four kids?

[Wonkie]

And yet no Democrats showed support...

it would be a waste of time

[ScaringChildren]

https://youtu.be/QWyCH93oU5Q

[ScaringChildren]

Do you have four kids?

Doesn't matter, I'm not part of the "top 10%".

[Irulan]

Tbh u, yes U. Not just U shouldn't be allowed to have kids n if u do they should go into military academy day 0 and only the top .01% should be permitted a higher education beyond basic combat training and intelligence tests, the defectives who cannot play death bowl should be recycled.

[rollin5k]

Education is 100% free in america and the world really. They just have you trained to think you need to get it from the government which is just like sending your kids to get inundated with propaganda and you like it!

[Throndor]

I have 2 kids. Gf has 2 kids. In the most liberal state in the country both of her childrens fathers dont pay a fucking dime in C/S since being a peter pan that shirks his responsibility is apparently acceptable in today's sociopolitical environment.

I dont delineate between which are mine, and which are hers because at the end of the day we're in this thing together. Govt doesnt see it that way. Child support is NOT tax deductible, nor do they consider gf and i supporting her two kids a hardship unless i adopt and assume full risk till theyre 18, so im being taxed at single and self as dependent only since im not majority timeholder thanks to a court system who thinks my cheating alcoholic of an ex is the default custodian.

Overturning the sexist presumption of fitness as a parent from the woman would cost about 40k IF she managed to get pulled over for DUI with the kids in the car. The fact that shes slurring drunk every time i see her is irrelevant and calling CSD on her can be construed as domestic violence: thanks Duluth! (Another democrat advent)

Tell me more about how democrats care. I live in a democrat state that has 90% democrat representation for the past 50 years. How long does your "change" take with a supermajority?

[Throndor]

My ex, 4 months after i met her, "messed up" on her birth control. Oops. It ok though, because coincidentally she has always planned to have her first child at the age of 24. Likewise, 5 years later, she had Mirena removed without telling me. Oops again. Her body, her choice, my responsibility.

[Irulan]

Sometimes homicide simply should be legal and people should be trained and empowered to defend themselves from abusive people. Hell they should be responsible for their own self defense.

The government shouldn't clean up the mess or pay for stitches or bullet removal or burial either. People should be required to deal with this shit like the homicidal apes they are and deserve to be treated as.

I can 100% guarantee homicide would have 100% changed the trajectory of my life. But it's not as easy to get away with as it was in the 1940's.

The government will never be able to enforce human decency and make people be "good". People are inherently vicious animals. Very few can rise above that state on their own, and the state can't make it happen for them either.

[Throndor]

My ex, 4 months after i met her, "messed up" on her birth control. Oops. It ok though, because coincidentally she has always planned to have her first child at the age of 24. Likewise, 5 years later, she had Mirena removed without telling me. Oops again. Her body, her choice, my responsibility.

Muh patriarchy!

[Irulan]

My ex, 4 months after i met her, "messed up" on her birth control. Oops. It ok though, because coincidentally she has always planned to have her first child at the age of 24. Likewise, 5 years later, she had Mirena removed without telling me. Oops again. Her body, her choice, my responsibility.

Muh patriarchy!

I feel for u but u don fucked up not wrapping that shit up double wrapped and getting married and living in the same domicile. And not overthrowing this government 120yrs a ago.

But ya, shits fucked. Abort everyone. I woke up pissed today. The meds aren't helping either. Some kinda miasma bubbling thru right now.

*rattles cage door and screams loudly*

[Irulan]

Moral of the story, the government can't fix anything, ever, anywhere, anytime, will ever be able to, not so long as the human race remains as is.

[Throndor]

I feel for u but u don fucked up not wrapping that shit up double wrapped and getting married and living in the same domicile. And not overthrowing this government 120yrs a ago.

But ya, shits fucked. Abort everyone. I woke up pissed today. The meds aren't helping either. Some kinda miasma bubbling thru right now.

*rattles cage door and screams loudly*

First one, yeah.

Second one, whos going to wear a condom 5 years into a marraige when the girl has an IUD installed as far as you know?

Second of all.....all these socialist programs the left wants....they collapse if no one has children.

Hillary 2020
"What difference, at this point, does it make!?"

[Throndor]

Lastly,
A) Lets assume that having 2 children is my poor "lifestyle choices" and i have to live with the consequences.


B) On the same note, someone living a compulsive overindulgent lifestyle that leads to poor health and substanitally increased healthcare costs...is their poor choices.

How do the leftists reconcile everyone being responsible for paying for the fat guy's medical insurance in scenario B, but me being responsible for everything in scenario A)

Are they both not "pre-existing conditions" at this point?

[Irulan]

First one, yeah.

Second one, whos going to wear a condom 5 years into a marraige when the girl has an IUD installed as far as you know?

Second of all.....all these socialist programs the left wants....they collapse if no one has children.

All very valid points, marriages should be treated as contracts in this way and the females should definitely bare responsibility in them.

I'm not really advocating for socialism I'm just ranting about how the way it is, how the way people want it to be, and how the way it should be... It's like mindless projection of my angst because I left the military at 25 yrs old and I'm a dumb suicidal fuck because I did not kill my father and chop that fucker to little bits, than immediately work on bettering myself and my country.

Any dumbass children reading this now, heed my warning, don't fuck up, and don't get caught if u have to do what you have to do to survive, make sure you don't waste your life if you are taking life, which we all do, we are all a part of the circle of life.

Get smart. Get strong. Plan. Calculate. Stay healthy. Don't piss away opportunities because of PUSSY or EVERQUEST or DRUGS

make your fucking bed everday.

clean ur guns

keep your knives sharp and rust free

don't draw attention from retards don't put up with no shit either, you deserve to be treated with respect if some dumb n888ggga wanna come sell u some majik hoodooo moonsh1n3 and won't go the fk away

[Throndor]

All very valid points, marriages should be treated as contracts in this way and the females should definitely bare responsibility in them.

I'm not really advocating for socialism I'm just ranting about how the way it is, how the way people want it to be, and how the way it should be... It's like mindless projection of my angst because I left the military at 25 yrs old and I'm a dumb suicidal fuck because I did not kill my father and chop that fucker to little bits, than immediately work on bettering myself and my country.

Any dumbass children reading this now, heed my warning, don't fuck up, and don't get caught if u have to do what you have to do to survive, make sure you don't waste your life if you are taking life, which we all do, we are all a part of the circle of life.

Get smart. Get strong. Plan. Calculate. Stay healthy.

Leftists would disagree with you. In today's world, women are wonderful, and men are defective women and rapists.

Being masculine is "toxic" and if you dont love women at their worst, you dont deserve them at their best.

Being white is racist, and illegally entering the country and joining ms13 (which you have to kill a rando to get into) is "dreaming"

Being intelligent and articulate is pretentious, and dressing like its casual friday everyday is "keeping it real".

[Irulan]

Lastly,
A) Lets assume that having 2 children is my poor "lifestyle choices" and i have to live with the consequences.


B) On the same note, someone living a compulsive overindulgent lifestyle that leads to poor health and substanitally increased healthcare costs...is their poor choices.

How do the leftists reconcile everyone being responsible for paying for the fat guy's medical insurance in scenario B, but me being responsible for everything in scenario A)

Are they both not "pre-existing conditions" at this point?

ya, and ppl should be able to be human, but it's clearly not working for the USA, again, I dont' disagree with u, and u had ur kids, that was cool and normal at the time, i don't expect you to have known better, and i'm not comin for u over it, but the dumbasses will

[Irulan]

Leftists would disagree with you. In today's world, women are wonderful, and men are defective women and rapists.

Being masculine is "toxic" and if you dont love women at their worst, you dont deserve them at their best.

Beung white is racist, and illegally entering the country and joining ms13 (which you have to kill a rando to get into) is "dreaming"

watched fox news last night and some dumb whit trash niggly bitch (probably a half breed tbqvfh) ran over a hard working nail tech over $35 cuz she didnt have her CC money (killing her like a little cowardly bitch with her car)

NUKE THE ZOO FROM FUCKING ORBIT

[Irulan]

"God" is laughing every single time we fucking rip each other a new asshole.

[Throndor]

Abort


Alot of people consider this murder. A fetus can survive outside of the womb much earlier then we originally expected. Psychologists are discovering sentience in the womb much earlier than expected as well.

The left doesnt believe in the death penalty for convicted murderers, inlcuding serial murderers and confirmed sociopathic (uncurable) murderers but has no issue with murdering babies.

Clump of cells. Cant euthanize a 70 year vegetative clump of cells, but thats different.

[Irulan]

Alot of people consider this murder. A fetus can survive outside of the womb much earlier then we originally expected. Psychologists are discovering sentience in the womb much earlier than expected as well.

The left doesnt believe in the death penalty for convicted murderers, inlcuding serial murderers and confirmed sociopathic (uncurable) murderers but has no issue with murdering babies.

Clump of cells. Cant euthanize a 70 year vegetative clump of cells, but thats different.

Hypocrisy is the greatest sin. Perhaps.

That being said I need to step away from the forums and get my life together.

[Throndor]

All very valid points, marriages should be treated as contracts in this way and the females should definitely bare responsibility in them.

I'm not really advocating for socialism I'm just ranting about how the way it is, how the way people want it to be, and how the way it should be... It's like mindless projection of my angst because I left the military at 25 yrs old

Work on bettering myself and my country.

Get smart. Get strong. Plan. Calculate.

I shouldve joined the military. It woulldve been helpful to have the self discipline instilled at an early age. Was fairly rebellious and anarchist at that age, so it felt foreign to do so and didnt have the guidance of someone that knew better to encourage that path. (Lol typoed "oath" there, freudian?)

Regardless, the need for that self discipline presented itself through hard knocks anyways, and the last two excerpts cut from the above are whats up now anyways.

Funny how wonkie making vague threats late last night. Dont think the kid realizes we, by and large, are ready for his commie boys. He thinks the fatties and degenerates are actually the favorites in this thing.....lol

Ultimately, what it all comes down to is that america's "leftism" is just an immature, juvenile mindset of suspended development. Haidt touches on this, in "The Righteous Mind", when he discusses how lack of initiation ritual into adulthood in western culture is largely to blame, which is where his ideas merge with Peterson's.

Furthermore, gang culture; its satiety toward human compulsions for tribalism and belonging has, by and large, stood in that stead as well, except its not a healthy doctrine for civil development, nor does it encourage leaving childish things behind.

[Throndor]

Anyhow. Off to the gym.

Lefties, heres to hoping you die of coronary heart disease before the political wars kick off where you can finally hope to realize the communist manifesto.

Pinkies out!

Cheers,
Throndor

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/BU0QMSR.jpg

[Throndor]

I'm not saying it's out of bounds. I'm saying don't expect people to give you real responses when you call them faggots and shit.


The ironic part is that the homosexuals and trans womyn on this thread agree with me despite your attempts to control the language and how i choose to apply it.

Makes you wonder.

Seems its an issue of:

Men and women with families, homosexuals, trans etc

Vs

Incel men and die hard 3rd wave feminist hypercunts

I like those odds. Do you think the "others" you swaddle yourselves with are going to do the fighting for you? They just after the free shit youre promising them bruh. They aint going die for you.

[Wonkie]

The Free Market and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[Throndor]

The Free Market and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

Greatest empire the world has ever known and a better quality of life than any empire throughout recorded history is a total disaster.

If its so bad....leave.

There are a lot of communist countries to choose from. Hell, i heard eurpoe has an open border policy. Claim yourself a political refugee from the US.

Hell, in many places throughout the world you wouldnt be able to make that claim without being killed for citing insurrection and treason, but i guess thats "less than a total disaster".

Still mad that you werent allowed to have ice cream for breakfast. Youre an adult now. You can have ice cream every day for breakfast and the rest of us are responsible for paying for the damages that causes to YOUR health.

Cheers pedo-fag

[Wonkie]

Anyhow. Off to the gym.

Lefties, heres to hoping you die of coronary heart disease before the political wars kick off where you can finally hope to realize the communist manifesto.

Pinkies out!

Cheers,
Throndor

ok

[Throndor]

https://i.imgur.com/tqXgZwv_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[d3r14k]

https://i.imgur.com/ib4AaYw.png

[Throndor]

Given the preponderence of the evidence here:

Leftists are childless:yet, they purport to be about changing that which is, into something different for the betterment of "future generations", of which they have no stock in. This is future cultural genocide, on their own populace.

Leftists are for open border immigration, of third world immigrants whom have much higher birth rates than the native 1st world population. Played out in the long run this is self loathing ethnic genocide through encouraging the importation of peoples who will outbreed the native population.

Leftists are for socialized healthcare, while simultaneously not requiring individuals reaping the benefits of said healthcare to live healthy lifestyles. The is economic genocide on their own populace.

Leftists are athiests while supporting the massive influx of third world immigrants which possess religious dogmatic underpinnings far greater than protestant catholicism/lutheran-derived christianity (orthodox Catholicism, and islam) thereby promoting religious genocide on their own populace.


Youll have to excuse our ethnocentrism, i dont see much appeal in the foundation of your position. If you want to kill yourselves, go ahead. You dont need to take your parents' society and culture with you.

[misterbonkers]

Lastly,
A) Lets assume that having 2 children is my poor "lifestyle choices" and i have to live with the consequences.


B) On the same note, someone living a compulsive overindulgent lifestyle that leads to poor health and substanitally increased healthcare costs...is their poor choices.

How do the leftists reconcile everyone being responsible for paying for the fat guy's medical insurance in scenario B, but me being responsible for everything in scenario A)

Are they both not "pre-existing conditions" at this point?

having a child isn't a health issue

how are you this dumb

[Throndor]

Perhaps the absolute clarity in the post ive just elucidated upon is why NONE of the people posing on the left over the past 500 pages of dialogue have revealed the slightest iota about their personal lives, despite being asked repeatedly to do so.

Instead they choose to pick tertiary points, and nitpick my chosen selection of language, as a means of diverting from, and denying the existence of, these self-evident truths.

Really, at this point, all the right has to do is wait 20, 30, or 49 years for you idiots to die of natural causes while teaching our children how retardedly selfdestructive their leftist indoctrinators are. Its not like you have your own children to pass your message along to lol.

[Throndor]

having a child isn't a health issue

how are you this dumb

They are both "issues" smartass. Nice attempt to dice words and delineate without addressing the point.

Its like youre a professional dipshit.

[Throndor]

https://i.imgur.com/BU0QMSR.jpg

I want legislation that calls for a comprehensive disclosure of all asset holdings for all politicians so we can see where their financial interests are, as well as who they came from.

[misterbonkers]

They are both "issues" smartass. Nice attempt to dice words and delineate without addressing the point.

Its like youre a professional dipshit.

you have no point

it's called false equivalence

[Throndor]

you have no point

it's called false equivalence

Your refusal to acknowledge the point is called....cognitive dissonance.

[Throndor]

Thats why youre full of shit when you declare yourself a "centrist"

Asteria can acknowledge when i make a point that counters leftists over-reach. You, on the other hand, double down, froth vehemently, and deny.

I thought the left claimed themselves to be the "empathetic" party? I guess that empathy only applies when we are in lockstep, "sieg heil", alignment with your political disposition.

This puts you on the far left, with the communists, fascists (aka "anti-fascists" lol) and delusional SJWs.

"Provocation is justification for violence", eh comrade!?

We're going to call it "implicit" provocation. On merit of them being white, male, and having families. How dare they!!!

Hear that DSA!? TO WAR!!! (hold my polish sausage and soda, i'm going in folks!........wait......*breathes heavily*.......any minute now.....*struggles to get off the couch and waddle up the basement steps*...*wheezes on spittle and internal throat fat*.....CHARGE!!!....*collapses from congestive heart failure before the first volley*)

[misterbonkers]

again with the dialogue trees

no offense but Asteria is unexperienced in dealing with your nonsense so I don't blame them for falling for it. fascism is a seriously insidious trap for the unaware

you keep arguing your strawmans, buddy, I ain't falling for it

[Throndor]

again with the dialogue trees

no offense but Asteria is unexperienced in dealing with your nonsense so I don't blame them for falling for it. fascism is a seriously insidious trap for the unaware

you keep arguing your strawmans, buddy, I ain't falling for it

ahh yes. He get's the pass for accidentally falling out of rank. Don't trip. You'll have him trained in a nice suit with twin lightning bolt insignias on it in no time.

Hear that Asteria. Misterbonkers forgives you for accidentally breaking rank!

[ScaringChildren]

misterbonkers said he was a Centrist?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/fkU57RM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[ScaringChildren]

I'm quite perplexed here..

[ScaringChildren]

Wonkie, if you don't resize your sig photo I am going to shit all over your doorstep.

[Wonkie]

Wonkie, if you don't resize your sig photo I am going to shit all over your doorstep.

do it for me

[misterbonkers]

misterbonkers said he was a Centrist?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this should be a sign to you that throndor is actually insane

im laffin as hard as you, bud

[ScaringChildren]

do it for me

I actually kind of like it now

o,o The whole point of this country

[Throndor]

this should be a sign to you that throndor is actually insane

im laffin as hard as you, bud

Lol im still waiting for your example of the "sanest" person in the world to model myself by, bud.

Going on 150+ pages of waiting for you to answer that one.

[Throndor]

misterbonkers said he was a Centrist?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, lol. Was shortly after i first came into this sewer and started talking with you ninja turtles.

Which ninja turtle was the communist, anyways?

[rollin5k]

Throndor doesn't seem insane to me. Knowledgeable and intense maybe.

[Throndor]

Throndor doesn't seem insane to me. Knowledgeable and intense maybe.

Thats their only defense though.

When confronted by the antithesis of their position; an unassailable physical and mental impossiblity in their worldview, they have to restort to the lowest form of fallacy to defend their position; the ad-hominem attack.

Their ass has been handed to them ethically, pathologically, and logically for going on well over 300 pages of dialogue now. And they're the self-proclaimed "smart ones" and "empathetic ones".

Really, their only hope grasping at straws at this point is a forum ban. Its sad really, because i used to be as stupid as them...when i was like 17.

If we just take 1000 units from here, and 1200 units from there, then we trick the 500 people below us out of 10 units each....viola everyones a millionaire!.....or wait....dont we have smart people that can "make" the math work over here on the left!?...sigh

[Wonkie]

Yeah, lol. Was shortly after i first came into this sewer and started talking with you ninja turtles.

Which ninja turtle was the communist, anyways?

probably donatello(the smart one)

[misterbonkers]

Yeah, lol. Was shortly after i first came into this sewer and started talking with you ninja turtles.

Which ninja turtle was the communist, anyways?

i will paypal you 50 bucks to find that post

i will guarantee you can't, even SC knows better

Thats their only defense though.

When confronted by the antithesis of their position; an unassailable physical and mental impossiblity in their worldview, they have to restort to the lowest form of fallacy to defend their position; the ad-hominem attack.

Their ass has been handed to them ethically, pathologically, and logically for going one 300 pages of dialogue now. And they're the self-proclaimed "smart ones" and "empathetic ones".

Really, their only hope grasping at straws at this point is a forum ban. Its sad really, because i used to be as stupid as them...when i was like 17.

i've attacked your arguments numerous times

you call me pedophile and attack strawmans

have a nice day, nazi

[Wonkie]

cecily and tigger are the centrists.

[Throndor]

i will paypal you 50 bucks to find that post

i will guarantee you can't, even SC knows better



i've attacked your arguments numerous times

you call me pedophile and attack strawmans

have a nice day, nazi

I like how you quoted Chomsky as indicating the USSR was a Red-Fascist state. I believe the credit for that correlation goes to Otto Ruhle, Circa 1939, but what do I know. (Bonus hint: he wasn't just talking about "Stalinism", he actually specifically criticized "Bolshevism" entirely as being fascist; placing socialism firmly in alignment WITH fascism *tiddlywinks*)
It's not like properly characterizing and accrediting others for their ideas is important.
You're only an overpaid college professor.
Perhaps we should replace your job with someone from India that actually knows wtf they're talking about.

Must be that superior education you got in training students in how to be ready for real on the job training in IT, at work, once they're done supporting your bloated ass salary.

Intellectual diligence, and all.

Do we need to go on to how you leftist peices of shit lost the science wars with the Sokal affair, then conveniently swept it under the rug, only to be HAD ONCE AGAIN by the same exact methodologies being used to test your academic rigor?

The entire realm of social science that you derive your conclusions from is a fictitious circle jerk of intellectually lazy shitlords agreeing with each other and ostracizing and refusing to publish anyone that falls out of line with your ideological underpinnings. There's no fucking "science" there. Don't try to claim intellectual superiority when it's been proven time and again that your ilk is an intellectually lazy echo chamber.

I got one of your comrade's computer science majors working under me right now doing database parsing for me when I want to procure data sets that are faster to inquire with the ODBC directly with. The kid took a look at our inventory list one day and after browsing it for 10 minutes said; "wait a minute....the COST is less than the PRICE in this list, what's wrong with this!?"

I had to slowly explain to the dimwitted fuck, "yeah, that DIFFERENCE, is what we here in the world of business call 'profit' its how we can afford to keep the lights on and pay you." I then watched as the gears in his head slowly turned to realize how incredibly fucking stupid his question/insight was.

Real bang up job you guys are doing over there at the collegiate level. bravo! What would you do if i told you, i built my entire employers network, upgraded their ERP system to QBEnterprise, integrated it with a POS system and now admin it while simultaneously running outside sales, and all of our procurement operations without a college degree in IT, Business, or anything of the sort. Your entire line of work is a racket used to pick money out of the pockets of morons. "IT Support Professor - Level 2" BWAUAHAHAHAH

PS. Take a look at my posts in detail last night. Called it! You're a non profit-generating heel of society working in an aspect of business that only COSTS companies money while also being paid 80% more than you're worth in the private market. Did you dad (who you hate so much) help you get your bloated ass job. (Can we win the triple crown!?) YAHTZEE!

Regards,
Throndor

[ScaringChildren]

https://youtu.be/ifgkS82DUlg

[Throndor]

i make 90k a year as a tier 2 tech support for a for profit college

i pay more in taxes than you make in a month

or maybe im making this all up to make you mad, so kiss my white naked ass

[Throndor]

So, did I just like....psychically intuit the entire skeletal structure of your life. Think so. I don't expect you to answer that last question. But, give your father a call. Think it's time you acknowledged all he did for you to make sure you could have the easy ass life you have.

3 Cheers for Nepotism and Socialism...Hoorah!

3 Boos for Meritocracy and Individual Excellence...Booooo!

PS. Go make your bed, and take a shower. You smell like dried semen and asscrack. You want to apply some burn cream, because I do believe you just got roasted.

[ScaringChildren]

Comedy identifies as a reason (https://youtu.be/B3Wd4VkAciY)

[misterbonkers]

I like how you quoted Chomsky as indicating the USSR was a Red-Fascist state. I believe the credit for that correlation goes to Otto Ruhle, Circa 1939, but what do I know. (Bonus hint: he wasn't just talking about "Stalinism", he actually specifically criticized "Bolshevism" entirely as being fascist; placing socialism firmly in alignment WITH fascism *tiddlywinks*)
It's not like properly characterizing and accrediting others for their ideas is important.
You're only an overpaid college professor.
Perhaps we should replace your job with someone from India that actually knows wtf they're talking about.

Must be that superior education you got in training students in how to be ready for real on the job training in IT, at work, once they're done supporting your bloated ass salary.

Intellectual diligence, and all.

Do we need to go on to how you leftist peices of shit lost the science wars with the Sokal affair, then conveniently swept it under the rug, only to be HAD ONCE AGAIN by the same exact methodologies being used to test your academic rigor?

The entire realm of social science that you derive your conclusions from is a fictitious circle jerk of intellectually lazy shitlords agreeing with each other and ostracizing and refusing to publish anyone that falls out of line with your ideological underpinnings. There's no fucking "science" there. Don't try to claim intellectual superiority when it's been proven time and again that your ilk is an intellectually lazy echo chamber.

I got one of your comrade's computer science majors working under me right now doing database parsing for me when I want to procure data sets that are faster to inquire with the ODBC directly with. The kid took a look at our inventory list one day and after browsing it for 10 minutes said; "wait a minute....the COST is less than the PRICE in this list, what's wrong with this!?"

I had to slowly explain to the dimwitted fuck, "yeah, that DIFFERENCE, is what we here in the world of business call 'profit' its how we can afford to keep the lights on and pay you." I then watched as the gears in his head slowly turned to realize how incredibly fucking stupid his question/insight was.

Real bang up job you guys are doing over there at the collegiate level. bravo! What would you do if i told you, i built my entire employers network, upgraded their ERP system to QBEnterprise, integrated it with a POS system and now admin it while simultaneously running outside sales, and all of our procurement operations without a college degree in IT, Business, or anything of the sort. Your entire line of work is a racket used to pick money out of the pockets of morons. "IT Support Professor - Level 2" BWAUAHAHAHAH

PS. Take a look at my posts in detail last night. Called it! You're a non profit-generating heel of society working in an aspect of business that only COSTS companies money while also being paid 80% more than you're worth in the private market. Did you dad (who you hate so much) help you get your bloated ass job. (Can we win the triple crown!?) YAHTZEE!

Regards,
Throndor

mad

[Wonkie]

Comedy identifies as a reason (https://youtu.be/B3Wd4VkAciY)

rationale

[ScaringChildren]

REMOVE THE BLASPHEMER FROM THE STAGE....HE SAID NO NO WORDS (https://youtu.be/fN-3DByTq6k)

[Throndor]

mad

You should be. Maybe you should re-assess your position. I heard cognitive dissonance can be quite uncomfortable. Do you even have to get up off your ass to go to work, or do you just remote in on VM while voting with my pocketbook.

PS. Checked ur sig. U look real butthurt, bro. You should go to the gym. Take some ownership over your life.

[ScaringChildren]

oh honey no

OH HONEY YES, MOTHERFUCKER

[Throndor]

Yeah that video was good. The second one was meh. It would've been nice if the recording was started at the point where he was still in his own dialogue, before the harpies converged. Cant really tell what they were harping about, but yeah.

I guess Nimesh must've been on about something though. I suppose understanding his viewpoint is going to take some further research. Thanks for tasking me with a research project, asshole! :P

[ScaringChildren]

Nimesh Patel, a writer for SNL no less.

Apparently this group invited him solely because he was Indian-American.

They didn't realize he was a normal human being and not some retarded woke NPC.

So a bunch of white girls yanked him off stage.

Pretty ironic.

We are living in clown world.

[misterbonkers]

You should be. Maybe you should re-assess your position. I heard cognitive dissonance can be quite uncomfortable. Do you even have to get up off your ass to go to work, or do you just remote in on VM while voting with my pocketbook.

PS. Checked ur sig. U look real butthurt, bro. You should go to the gym. Take some ownership over your life.

pretty comfy, mate, got a new chair around christmas :p

[Wonkie]

We are living in clown world.

you couldnt tell from the reality tv star president?
:eek:

[ScaringChildren]

you couldnt tell from the reality tv star president?
:eek:

Lemme know when Trump starts kicking minorities off stage for telling jokes mm kay?

[ScaringChildren]

pretty comfy, mate, got a new chair around christmas :p

Is that a fish behind you?

[Throndor]

pretty comfy, mate, got a new chair around christmas :p

'sall good bruh. Expanding the company into e-commerce and familiarizing myself with managing that side of the business in the new year.

Should be fairly easy to parlay that experience into a fairly lucrative side-biz in the long term.

Just gotta find the right product sources with enough room in the bulk:each breakdown to turn a profit after covering amazon's platform and fulfillment fees.

Looking forward to the new year. Keep on waitin' for the world to change. I'm sure the communist manifesto is going to happen any day now...lol

After all, it totally looks like we got politicians in play that are looking out for the "greater good". (laughriot)

[misterbonkers]

After all, it totally looks like we got politicians in play that are looking out for the "greater good". (laughriot)

we don't, and they're majority republican, so what does that tell you, bud

[Throndor]

we don't, and they're majority republican, so what does that tell you, bud

Fact check! Lol There are something like 531,000 elected positions within the US and census data isn't very up-to-date on breaking this down by party demographics. If you want to prove that, I'd be happy to listen, or are you just talking about upper-echelon federal positions (HoR+HoS+Presidency)?

HOR
199 R
235 D

HOS
52 R
45 D

Presidency
1 R (formerly ran as D before elected as R)

At the top of the federal level it looks like you're wrong.

Are you talking about the entirety? I mean, we can add the Judicial branch if you want too, but even if they're all R I don't think that's enough to cover the delta= 28 seats. Pretty sure there's like 8 judges or something....correction...9.

[Throndor]

How much longer do you want to continue burying yourself here, bud? I'm starting to feel bad. Can we just end this charade?


Charade....
Charade....

Definition: an absurd pretense intended to create a pleasant or respectable appearance.

Schadenfreude

Definition: pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.

[Throndor]

I'm sorry your professor didn't actually teach you the facts.

I was pretty upset when I saw what they were doing too.

It's alright though. Once you realize that you've had the power to change things, all along, and start taking ownership of your own life, it gets better.

Mazel tav. (yeah, that's how it's spelled)

Definition: a Jewish phrase expressing congratulations or wishing someone good luck.

[Throndor]

Looks like according to analysts, based on their rulings over their careers

5 of the SCJ's are fairly decidedly conservative

3 are fairly decidedly progressive

and Kavanaugh is a party dude.....(hums the TMNT song) His single ruling thus far has been a progressive-slant.

SJCs don't pronounce a political party, outright, that would be a conflict of interests n such.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_leanings_of_United_States_Supreme_Cour t_justices

[mickmoranis]

REMOVE THE BLASPHEMER FROM THE STAGE....HE SAID NO NO WORDS (https://youtu.be/fN-3DByTq6k)

whats amazing about this, is this is columbia lol

this isnt evergreen state...

this is one of america's eight ivy league schools lol

this is a top 8 college in the country :D:D:D

I remember when it was the people that went to church every sunday that were the puritanicals.

[Throndor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_(psychology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_psychology

Anyone here keen on Jungian Psychology?

[Throndor]

whats amazing about this, is this is columbia lol

this isnt evergreen state...

this is one of america's eight ivy league schools lol

this is a top 8 college in the country :D:D:D

You read about the Sokal Affair over at Yale? It's been this bad for over 2 decades now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_Superstition

The social sciences have been compromised by fascist/communist circle-jerkers censoring dissenting views, and promoting parroted talking points for the past 20 years. That's why we're at critical velocity with postmodernist (repackaged marxism) babble for the past decade or so.

Their end-game is the destruction of the nuclear family unit, and the widespread acceptance of pedophilia. That's why we live in an upside-down dystopia of cockamamie crazy-making, and self-genocidal rebellion.

When you see articles of women murdering their newborn infants with multiple stab wounds and ditching the corpse in a nearby shed, and then you review the comments section and you have asshats sympathizing with the "mother" it becomes pretty apparent that we're entering into the realm of toon-town like a fucking Roger Rabbit movie. The shit's so stupid, it's daffy.


As they say, whatever happens on the campuses spills over into the real world a few years later. They just have to indoctrinate a few generations then, BAM, USA is voting on whether or not we should be a communist country.

[misterbonkers]

you have

presidency
senate
supreme court

versus

house of reps

hmmmmm

seems like a 3v1 to me, bud

[Wonkie]

its not that congress is incapable of passing legislation. they're simply unwilling, cuz it'll get them voted out.
this is a symptom of the imperial presidency(not referring solely to trump, dinguses)

[mickmoranis]

its not that congress is incapable of passing legislation. they're simply unwilling, cuz it'll get them voted out.
this is a symptom of the imperial presidency(not referring solely to trump dinguses)

no its that half of them were elected to protect us from idiots making legislation at all. The longer they dont do anything, the better. That's the point of this country. Libs forget that cus you think we live in europe or russia because your teachers all had micropenises.

[Throndor]

you have

presidency
senate
supreme court

versus

house of reps

hmmmmm

seems like a 3v1 to me, bud

Are you really going to continue?

You're embarassing the fuck out of yourself at this point, bro.

How's the state of California faring with it's nearly unanimous Democrat leadership?

How's Illinois, Michigan, and the rest of the rust belt doing under nearly unanimous Democratic leadership?

They're a fucking joke. Half the state of California burnt up in flames early this fall with their approach to land conservation; where every fallen twig is a Natural Monument. Their roads are entirely in disrepair despite taxing the populace through registration fees 400% higher than our neighboring states.

The rust belt is a crime-riddled shithole with the highest murder and violent crime rates per capita in the entire union.

Get the fuck out of here, moron.

You're fucking stupid as fuck. Go lose about 120 pounds, have a little fucking respect for yourself. You look like warmed over shit.

[misterbonkers]

mad

[Irulan]

My Jungian archetype:

Chunking the mobs via 1 hit KOs, then vanishing into the shadows like a boss.

[rollin5k]

yes can you believe it, real americans want LESS LAWS. we want to clean up legislation and erase the bull shit. the slower the commie train goes the happier we are. we want to legalize the constitution. parts of the constitution are blocked in most states, its ridiculous.

[Wonkie]

yes can you believe it, real americans want LESS LAWS. we want to clean up legislation and erase the bull shit. the slower the commie train goes the happier we are. we want to legalize the constitution. parts of the constitution are blocked in most states, its ridiculous.

that's not reality. federal supremacy was decided ages ago. the constitution was, is, and remains the supreme law of the land.

it's just poorly written by drunken barley farmers plagued with ergot poisoning.

[Wonkie]

anyway bring back pork(earmarks) if you want the government to function again.

a little corruption greases the wheels. there's zero reason for the parties to cooperate right now.

[Throndor]

yes can you believe it, real americans want LESS LAWS. we want to clean up legislation and erase the bull shit. the slower the commie train goes the happier we are. we want to legalize the constitution. parts of the constitution are blocked in most states, its ridiculous.

Yeah, but i also want to see term limits, and remove alot of the self-serving we have going on in washington. Politics were never meant to be a profit generating career.

Furthermore, id also like to see wall street reregulated so they cant buy their own stocks back and dish it back out to their executive board as bonuses used to skirt income tax laws.

Publicly traded companies are public institutions and they should be regulated as such. If a company is profitable and not extensively hamstrung by r&d costs they should be paying their shareholders via dividends not dishing out stock to themselves.

Theres definitely some problems that the lefts view is useful for, but this whole ruse of "capitalism doesnt work" so we need socialism is just a disingenuous ploy by leaders on both sides to tighten the noose around our necks while robbing us blind.

Tired of seeing nepotism reign supreme over meritocracy. Wasnt supposed to be this way and it isn't what made USA the greatest empire that has ever existed in the known history of the world.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, but i also want to see term limits, and remove alot of the self-serving we have going on in washington. Politics were never meant to be a profit generating career.

Furthermore, id also like to see wall street reregulated so they cant buy their own stocks back and dish it back out to their executive board as bonuses used to skirt income tax laws.

Publicly traded companies are public institutions and they should be regulated as such. If a company is profitable and not extensively hamstrung by r&d costs they should be paying their shareholders via dividends not dishing out stock to themselves.

Theres definitely some problems that the lefts view is useful for, but this whole ruse of "capitalism doesnt work" so we need socialism is just a disingenuous ploy by leaders on both sides to tighten the noose around our necks while robbing us blind.

Tired of seeing nepotism reign supreme over meritocracy. Wasnt supposed to be this way and it isn't what made USA the greatest empire that has ever existed in the known history of the world.

if you're so opposed to nepotism i don't suppose you'd mind a 100% inheritance tax?

it's about equality of opportunity

[Throndor]

if you're so opposed to nepotism i don't suppose you'd mind a 100% inheritance tax?

it's about equality of opportunity

100% ? Lol

40% is already fairly sizable, considering our government has proven itself incompetent with $$ but i wouldnt be opposed to increasing it by a bit, 60% over 1million with intermittent reviews on the dollar value and zero tax on values below that.

At this tine, a 999,999$ inheritance boils down the the state taking about 325,000 by my rough estimate. I would have to excel the whole table i linked yesterday or the day before to give you an exact number.

1 mill isnt what it used to be, its the cost of 1 3br home in the bay area (and a humble 3br home at that) and several other major cities in the country. This means that when joe schmoe homeowner dies in the bay area, his/her heir is on the hook for 325grand or they are forced to liquidate post-haste. Im not familiar with exactly how much time the government gives you, but theres also state taxes in addition to that 325k obligation in several states throughout the union.

Furthermore, as i already discussed, we have to get rid of corporation bypasses of the estate tax laws or then we arent really addressing the issue.

Do i need to go back over how corporations are immortal "humans"?

At this time, estate tax laws primarily affect ordinary people. The ultra wealthy have other vehicles for perpetuating their wealth indefinitely and how do you hold multinational, or foreign nationals to estate tax laws?

[Wonkie]

100% ? Lol

40% is already fairly sizable, considering our government has proven itself incompetent with but i wouldnt ve opposed to increasing it by a bit, 60% over 1million with intermittent reviews on the dollar value. 1 mill isnt what it used to be, its the cost of 1 3br home in the bay area (and a humble 3br home at that)

Furthermore, as i already discussed, we have to get rid of corporation bypasses of the estate tax laws. Do i need to go back over how corporations are immortal "humans"?

At this time, estate tax laws primarily affect ordinary people. The ultra wealthy have other vehicles for perpetuating their wealth indefinitely and how do you hold multinational, or foreign nationals to estate tax laws?

wow man i thought you believed in meritocracy?

[misterbonkers]

wow man i thought you believed in meritocracy?

so much for the meritorious right

[ScaringChildren]

Inheritance tax should be 0%.

People don't work all their lives to gain a fortune only to let the gay government take it all.

[Wonkie]

Inheritance tax should be 0%.

People don't work all their lives to gain a fortune only to let the gay government take it all.

you're nepotistic

[ScaringChildren]

you're nepotistic

Some people are lucky and are born into a rich family or something.

Stop being an envious little loser.

[Wonkie]

Some people are lucky and are born into a rich family or something.

Stop being an envious little loser.

sorry for believing in equality of opportunity for all

[ScaringChildren]

sorry for believing in equality of opportunity for all

What you are referring to is equality of outcome, not opportunity.

[mickmoranis]

sorry for believing in equality of opportunity for all

Has sig about individual rights. Posts about socialism.

[Wonkie]

What you are referring to is equality of outcome, not opportunity.

not really? inheritance isn't an outcome, it's a handout.

[Wonkie]

Has sig about individual rights. Posts about socialism.

im gay for noam man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNaKWYwsi1I)

[ScaringChildren]

not really? inheritance isn't an outcome, it's a handout.

And what do you want to achieve by taking away people's inheritances? You want the same outcome for everyone.

That's equality of outcome.

If I want to give my son a small loan of a million dollars, that's my business. Not yours, commie.

[ScaringChildren]

A good example of 'equality of opportunity' would be criminalizing abortion.

This gives everyone a chance of being born into a wealthy family.

[Wonkie]

And what do you want to achieve by taking away people's inheritances? You want the same outcome for everyone.

That's equality of outcome.

If I want to give my son a small loan of a million dollars, that's my business. Not yours, commie.

nah its an equal starting position, aka opportunity

meritocracy b*tch

[Throndor]

Dinner was good:liver n burnt cabbage.

Reviewing bonkers and wonkie's post and their names are totally fitting, lol.




I can hear the circus music in the background as i read their crazymaking posts.. ."dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" maybe some of them pinwheel helicopter hats and some of those unravelling party favors that children blow into and some lapel-mounted horns.


Hahahahaha

All or nothing morons.

Yall some morbidly obese clowns.

Bonkers totally a fat peice of shit on his twitch channel too. No wonder why he wants me to pay for his medical insurance. Dudes a total genetic sewer.
Racial superiority, my ass. Best part of him dribbled down the crack of his momma's ass. No wonder why he wants state mandated "equality". Dudes a total genetic reject. Unfortunately, even if we even out our bank accounts, no ones gonna wanna fuck him. Genetic inequality always gonna exist, bro. No wonder why you hate god, your parents, and everyone else.

[Wonkie]

Dinner was good:liver n burnt cabbage.

Reviewing bonkers and wonkie's post and their names are totally fitting, lol.

I can hear the circus music in the background as i read their crazymaking posts.. ."dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" maybe some of them pinwheel helicopter hats and some of those unravelling party favors that children blow into and some lapel-mounted horns.


Hahahahaha

All or nothing morons.

Yall some morbidly obese clowns.

Bonkers totally a fat peice of shit on his twitch channel too. No wonder why he wants me to pay for his medical insurance. Dudes a total genetic sewer.

mensa, ladies and gentlemen

[Throndor]

mensa, ladies and gentlemen

Dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh



Hahahahahaha

Can i honk your horn, bro?

[Wonkie]

Dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh



Hahahahahaha

whoop whoop

[Ahldagor]

Dinner was good:liver n burnt cabbage.

Reviewing bonkers and wonkie's post and their names are totally fitting, lol.




I can hear the circus music in the background as i read their crazymaking posts.. ."dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" maybe some of them pinwheel helicopter hats and some of those unravelling party favors that children blow into and some lapel-mounted horns.


Hahahahaha

All or nothing morons.

Yall some morbidly obese clowns.

Bonkers totally a fat peice of shit on his twitch channel too. No wonder why he wants me to pay for his medical insurance. Dudes a total genetic sewer.
Racial superiority, my ass. Best part of him dribbled down the crack of his momma's ass. No wonder why he wants state mandated "equality". Dudes a total genetic reject. Unfortunately, even if we even out our bank accounts, no ones gonna wanna fuck him. Genetic inequality always gonna exist, bro. No wonder why you hate god, your parents, and everyone else.

So you're on eugenics now?

[Throndor]

For some reason this forum wont let embed images. Totally need that .gif of trigglypuff posted right now.

You two are fucking clown-shoes.

[Throndor]

So you're on eugenics now?

Its not eugenics when its fat ass white dudes. Cant be racist against whites: your own "laws"

[Wonkie]

For some reason this forum wont let embed images. Totally need that .gif of trigglypuff posted right now.

You two are fucking clown-shoes.

upload it to imgur and link the image not the album

[Wonkie]

Can i honk your horn, bro?

sig?

[ScaringChildren]

nah its an equal starting position, aka opportunity

meritocracy b*tch

That's equality of outcome, not opportunity.

[Throndor]

Id probably be a fucking communist if i had your lot, too. Lol.


No, wait. Id probably diet, go to the gym, and actively choose to change my situation. Even under communism youd need to do it. I mean, look at yourself.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/knlkjlt.gif

[Throndor]

https://i.imgur.com/knlkjlt.gif

Thank you, sir.

[Throndor]

These guys why i could never get behind a racist movement. These dudes totally not "superior" to african-americans, mexican-americans, xxxxxxxxx-americans that actually respect themselves not to go full on Sloth.


Proof-positive that "evolution" does not always = improvement. Some straight up natural selection shit right thurr.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/ggCcHrU.jpg

[Wonkie]

That's equality of outcome, not opportunity.

no.

[ScaringChildren]

no.

yes.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/mqQMTbS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Irulan]

At this time, estate tax laws primarily affect ordinary people. The ultra wealthy have other vehicles for perpetuating their wealth indefinitely and how do you hold multinational, or foreign nationals to estate tax laws?

The real irony is ordinary people usually die with a negative balance and the state eats their burial costs.

Both situations are dumb, and partly the fault of being "ordinary".

TLDR: Don't be ordinary guys, don't aim for the bare absolute minimums.

Y do u think I am such a successful retarded tranny?

Be fucking extraordinary and don't fucking rely on others to pick up the slack.

[Patriam1066]

Dinner was good:liver n burnt cabbage.

Reviewing bonkers and wonkie's post and their names are totally fitting, lol.




I can hear the circus music in the background as i read their crazymaking posts.. ."dun..dun..dununnuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" maybe some of them pinwheel helicopter hats and some of those unravelling party favors that children blow into and some lapel-mounted horns.


Hahahahaha

All or nothing morons.

Yall some morbidly obese clowns.

Bonkers totally a fat peice of shit on his twitch channel too. No wonder why he wants me to pay for his medical insurance. Dudes a total genetic sewer.
Racial superiority, my ass. Best part of him dribbled down the crack of his momma's ass. No wonder why he wants state mandated "equality". Dudes a total genetic reject. Unfortunately, even if we even out our bank accounts, no ones gonna wanna fuck him. Genetic inequality always gonna exist, bro. No wonder why you hate god, your parents, and everyone else.

Seek Christ weirdo

[Ahldagor]

Its not eugenics when its fat ass white dudes. Cant be racist against whites: your own "laws"

But you're degrading Bonkers on your genetic based assumption about them with adjective phrases of mockery. I'm not so certain you actually trace the logic lines you type here.

Also, why are you so concerned with comparing your self to others? You're potentially a grown ass man acting like a high-schooler, but that could be your limited maturity.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/kBEXMkd_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Throndor]

But you're degrading Bonkers on your genetic based assumption about them with adjective phrases of mockery. I'm not so certain you actually trace the logic lines you type here.

Also, why are you so concerned with comparing your self to others? You're potentially a grown ass man acting like a high-schooler, but that could be your limited maturity.
Or it could be returning the favor.

Let me break it down for you. If your voting with other people's pocketbook, then you are personally assaulting them with the state. You dont get to sit up in your ivory tower with the whole "no hard feelings, pal, mob rules" approach to politics, censoring, ridiculing, setting the rules for, and then ad hominem attacking anyone and everyone for daring to criticize your communistic ways.

Then when you drive to the root of the issue and outright admit that your motivations are purely for your own selfish gain, you lose the moral highground and your "greater good" becomes the "insatiable horde".

You are not entitled to MY wages. Ive already quite clearly illustrated that YOUR economic leanings intend to steal food out of mine and my family's mouth, yet you throw a couple token words along the lines of "gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette". Well, guess what mother fucker, this family of eggs isnt going to remain civil while you blow sunshine and rainbows up my dress. I dont wear dresses.

If you want money, get a fucking job and earn it like the rest of us.

If you want "affordable healthcare" then get yourself in shape to where your healthcare is affordable.

If you to get laid, make yourself desirable so that people want to have sex with you.

Ocassional-cortex isnt going to save you. Your little communist dsa party with 50k people aren't going to go actualizing a revolution for you. (How did anti-fascists recently get linked with anti-semitism? BTW: its exactly like i said; shadow-projection. Anti-fascism is fascism.
Anti-semitic racism : check
Anti-white racism: check
Authoritarian: check
Censors language: check
Uses "implicit provocations" as a means to justify economic persecution: check
Uses "implicit provocations" as a rationalization for violence: check

You're fucking fascist, man. Red fascism, brown communism, as Rohle said 80 years ago, they are the same thing: virtually indistinguishable.


Guess who can create the revolution, in your life, for you!? Protip: its the person you see in the mirror when you brush your teeth and waddle out of the shower once a week.

The world doesn't owe you shit by merely sliding out of a vagina. Its a fairly ordinary occurence. Your actions, in this life, is what matters and no one is ever going to care for you better than you can care for yourself; no one else is in a better position to.

[rollin5k]

saw an obese gay guy with 3 day old beard and high heels working at home depot cash register. he even seemed embarrassed. thanks affirmative action.

[Wonkie]

WA governor Inslee is running for Presz on climate change only

seems choreographed. who's he in cahoots with?

[JurisDictum]

The Economics of Soaking the Rich

What does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez know about tax policy? A lot.
Paul Krugman

I have no idea how well Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will perform as a member of Congress. But her election is already serving a valuable purpose. You see, the mere thought of having a young, articulate, telegenic nonwhite woman serve is driving many on the right mad — and in their madness they’re inadvertently revealing their true selves.

Some of the revelations are cultural: The hysteria over a video of AOC dancing in college says volumes, not about her, but about the hysterics. But in some ways the more important revelations are intellectual: The right’s denunciation of AOC’s “insane” policy ideas serves as a very good reminder of who is actually insane.

The controversy of the moment involves AOC’s advocacy of a tax rate of 70-80 percent on very high incomes, which is obviously crazy, right? I mean, who thinks that makes sense? Only ignorant people like … um, Peter Diamond, Nobel laureate in economics and arguably the world’s leading expert on public finance (although Republicans blocked him from an appointment to the Federal Reserve Board with claims that he was unqualified. Really.) And it’s a policy nobody has ever implemented, aside from … the United States, for 35 years after World War II — including the most successful period of economic growth in our history.

To be more specific, Diamond, in work with Emmanuel Saez — one of our leading experts on inequality — estimated the optimal top tax rate to be 73 percent. Some put it higher: Christina Romer, top macroeconomist and former head of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, estimates it at more than 80 percent.

Where do these numbers come from? Underlying the Diamond-Saez analysis are two propositions: Diminishing marginal utility and competitive markets.

Diminishing marginal utility is the common-sense notion that an extra dollar is worth a lot less in satisfaction to people with very high incomes than to those with low incomes. Give a family with an annual income of $20,000 an extra $1,000 and it will make a big difference to their lives. Give a guy who makes $1 million an extra thousand and he’ll barely notice it.

What this implies for economic policy is that we shouldn’t care what a policy does to the incomes of the very rich. A policy that makes the rich a bit poorer will affect only a handful of people, and will barely affect their life satisfaction, since they will still be able to buy whatever they want.

So why not tax them at 100 percent? The answer is that this would eliminate any incentive to do whatever it is they do to earn that much money, which would hurt the economy. In other words, tax policy toward the rich should have nothing to do with the interests of the rich, per se, but should only be concerned with how incentive effects change the behavior of the rich, and how this affects the rest of the population.

But here’s where competitive markets come in. In a perfectly competitive economy, with no monopoly power or other distortions — which is the kind of economy conservatives want us to believe we have — everyone gets paid his or her marginal product. That is, if you get paid $1000 an hour, it’s because each extra hour you work adds $1000 worth to the economy’s output.

In that case, however, why do we care how hard the rich work? If a rich man works an extra hour, adding $1000 to the economy, but gets paid $1000 for his efforts, the combined income of everyone else doesn’t change, does it? Ah, but it does — because he pays taxes on that extra $1000. So the social benefit from getting high-income individuals to work a bit harder is the tax revenue generated by that extra effort — and conversely the cost of their working less is the reduction in the taxes they pay.

Now I want to point out a few things. He isn't talking about making people like throndor pay 80%. And while It's really annoying how he pretends like Republicans just inherently hate successful women of color (they love women of color that espose their views) -- that really shouldn't undo the bulk of what this opinion piece was actually about.

Soaking the rich. Lets all cannibalize the ultra rich...the mildly rich should be spared IMO -- lots of them are good people.

You don't have to be a communist to see the merit in getting rid of parasite gentry class. They are the biggest welfare bums of them all.

[feniin]

All of these temporarily embarrassed trillionaires on p99 don't want to be taxed at 73% once they finally make it big.

[Throndor]

Now I want to point out a few things. He isn't talking about making people like throndor pay 80%. And while It's really annoying how he pretends like Republicans just inherently hate successful women of color (they love women of color that espose their views) -- that really shouldn't undo the bulk of what this opinion piece was actually about.

Soaking the rich. Lets all cannibalize the ultra rich...the mildly rich should be spared IMO -- lots of them are good people.

You don't have to be a communist to see the merit in getting rid of parasite gentry class. They are the biggest welfare bums of them all.


Krugman's (as well as Shaviro's) academic work (before he turned into a news media propagandist), was one of my sources in my 10-page rhetorical analysis of the evolution of zombie myth in pop culture required for 102.

World war Z had just came out, and I provided a response to how zombie myth has evolved from being primarily about a critique of the vampiric nature of capitalism and it's zombificating effect on the working class proletariat; as detailed on "Night of the Living Dead" with the mall scenes;

Then it evolved into a critique of colonial (western) racism's "colonial gaze"; as detailed by Lauro et all using foucaltian dialectic analysis relating to how zombie myth evolved from "Night of the living Dead" into a dehumanizing means justifying the oppression/destruction of "others", as detailed in more recent "kill em all" zombie films prevelant throughout the '90s, and early '00s, only to be ressurected in the early '10s (Walking Dead);

Then i went on to explain how in most recent films/series such as World War Z, the metaphor was more about an fear of globalization, with zombie apocalypse being a worldwide phenomenon that originates within third-world countries starved into a sort of insatiable un-life, which then radiates out to the western world, and how this development is metaphorically relatable to a underlying fear of globalization that is simultaneously exacerbating environmental issues in addition to threatening the western world with "contracting" the disease of an acute scarcity of resources, and environmental catastrophism caused by global transport and distribution of resources in an attempt to placate the zombie's insatiably bottomless hunger.

100%'d it and included it in my Junior writing portfolio. Even though it ran counter to leftist ideology as it pertains to racism, and marxist critique of capitalism, they gobbled it up and pushed me to attempt getting it published, regardless. I did some psychological trickery to ally myself with them, but I didn't want to publish it because I knew a lot of it was giving my sources more credit than they deserved since, for the most part, their critiques were outdated and no longer resembling contemporary societal ills.

This was earlier in Obama's term, just as he began reigniting the flames of racism within this country, (in conjuction with help from the DSA and their participation in the development of BLM (remember the mid-west fairground incident, where large gangs of blacks waited around out front of the fairgrounds to beat, and hospitalize white men in front of their families without provocation?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/race-war-heats-up-at-wisconsin-state-fairwait-the-race-war-2011-8

; and a few years before this societal fear of globalization and backlash against anti-white racism manifested in the election of Donald Trump.
https://fox6now.com/2016/11/10/disturbing-video-shows-chicago-man-beaten-as-bystanders-yell-dont-vote-trump/
and then we had the rust belt incidences where black people rioted and blocked roadways so that they could drag white people out of their cars beat them without provocation.

Some Babe Ruth level intuiting the future shit.

If the left doesn't back away from the "global communism without borders" and promoting unprovoked violence on people for "implicitly being white" theme, they're going to lose everything, including their credibility, while destroying the environment in the process. Anti-Fascism is Fascism. Anti-Racism is racism.

Do you have any idea how bad exponentially increasing the carbon footprint by attempting to equalize and import the third world into the western world is?

We should be aiming to reduce the extravagancy of the first world while promoting a minimalist lifestyle; not looking to maximize our market exposure by pushing globalized distribution of carbon-footprint-heavy western materialism upon the rest of the still developing, underdeveloped, and undeveloped 2nd and 3rd world.

Overindulgence and gluttony is antithesis to living a "minimalist" lifestyle both economically and environmentally. And that is just one element why, despite knowing that some things are "unfair" i believe the left is entirely wrong in their recent approaches toward remedying societal ills.

Regards,
Throndor

[feniin]

Nah

[Wonkie]

Nah

[Cecily]

Krugman's (as well as Shaviro's) academic work (before he turned into a news media propagandist), was one of my sources in my 10-page rhetorical analysis of the evolution of zombie myth in pop culture required for 102.

World war Z had just came out, and I provided a response to how zombie myth has evolved from being primarily about a critique of the vampiric nature of capitalism and it's zombificating effect on the working class proletariat; as detailed on "Night of the Living Dead" with the mall scenes;

Then it evolved into a critique of colonial (western) racism's "colonial gaze"; as detailed by Lauro et all using foucaltian dialectic analysis relating to how zombie myth evolved from "Night of the living Dead" into a dehumanizing means justifying the oppression/destruction of "others", as detailed in more recent "kill em all" zombie films prevelant throughout the '90s, and early '00s, only to be ressurected in the early '10s (Walking Dead);

Then i went on to explain how in most recent films/series such as World War Z, the metaphor was more about an fear of globalization, with zombie apocalypse being a worldwide phenomenon that originates within third-world countries starved into a sort of insatiable un-life, which then radiates out to the western world, and how this development is metaphorically relatable to a underlying fear of globalization that is simultaneously exacerbating environmental issues in addition to threatening the western world with "contracting" the disease of an acute scarcity of resources, and environmental catastrophism caused by global transport and distribution of resources in an attempt to placate the zombie's insatiably bottomless hunger.

100%'d it and included it in my Junior writing portfolio. Even though it ran counter to leftist ideology as it pertains to racism, and marxist critique of capitalism, they gobbled it up and pushed me to attempt getting it published, regardless. I did some psychological trickery to ally myself with them, but I didn't want to publish it because I knew a lot of it was giving my sources more credit than they deserved since, for the most part, their critiques were outdated and no longer resembling contemporary societal ills.

This was earlier in Obama's term, just as he began reigniting the flames of racism within this country, (in conjuction with help from the DSA and their participation in the development of BLM (remember the mid-west fairground incident, where large gangs of blacks waited around out front of the fairgrounds to beat, and hospitalize white men in front of their families without provocation?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/race-war-heats-up-at-wisconsin-state-fairwait-the-race-war-2011-8

; and a few years before this societal fear of globalization and backlash against anti-white racism manifested in the election of Donald Trump.
https://fox6now.com/2016/11/10/disturbing-video-shows-chicago-man-beaten-as-bystanders-yell-dont-vote-trump/
and then we had the rust belt incidences where black people rioted and blocked roadways so that they could drag white people out of their cars beat them without provocation.

Some Babe Ruth level intuiting the future shit.

If the left doesn't back away from the "global communism without borders" and promoting unprovoked violence on people for "implicitly being white" theme, they're going to lose everything, including their credibility, while destroying the environment in the process. Anti-Fascism is Fascism. Anti-Racism is racism.

Do you have any idea how bad exponentially increasing the carbon footprint by attempting to equalize and import the third world into the western world is?

We should be aiming to reduce the extravagancy of the first world while promoting a minimalist lifestyle; not looking to maximize our market exposure by pushing globalized distribution of carbon-footprint-heavy western materialism upon the rest of the still developing, underdeveloped, and undeveloped 2nd and 3rd world.

Overindulgence and gluttony is antithesis to living a "minimalist" lifestyle both economically and environmentally. And that is just one element why, despite knowing that some things are "unfair" i believe the left is entirely wrong in their recent approaches toward remedying societal ills.

Regards,
Throndor

[Throndor]

By the way, Juris Dictum's point two is why I said, i'm not opposed to raising the estate tax on inheritences over 1million, but that there should not even be an estate tax on values below that.

1 million, in today's economy is 1 single-family home in one of the competitive major cities throughout the country. It's enough to possibly get through all the red tape regulating the starting of a modest business with the ability to hire an employee or 3.

Daffy and Bugs then decided to go full retard, and this is what i mean by entirely lacking prudence/temperence.

[Cecily]

By the way, Juris Dictum's point two is why I said, i'm not opposed to raising the estate tax on inheritences over 1million, but that there should not even be an estate tax on values below that.

1 million, in today's economy is 1 single-family home in one of the competitive major cities throughout the country. It's enough to possibly get through all the red tape regulating the starting of a modest business with the ability to hire an employee or 3.

Daffy and Bugs then decided to go full retard, and this is what i mean by entirely lacking prudence/temperence.

[Throndor]

By the way, Juris Dictum's point two is why I said, i'm not opposed to raising the estate tax on inheritences over 1million, but that there should not even be an estate tax on values below that.

1 million, in today's economy is 1 single-family home in one of the competitive major cities throughout the country. It's enough to possibly get through all the red tape regulating the starting of a modest business with the ability to hire an employee or 3.

Daffy and Bugs then decided to go full retard, and this is what i mean by entirely lacking prudence/temperence.

plagiarism!

lol

[ScaringChildren]

All of these temporarily embarrassed trillionaires on p99 don't want to be taxed at 73% once they finally make it big.

Translation: "I'm not the one who will be shafted, so fuck em lol!"

Slavery didn't affect white people, so why did they even bother abolishing it?

You know how immature and retarded you sound?

[Throndor]

Actually like Shaviro's views in a lot of ways. Panpsychism and gnostic inter-wovenalities share a similar thread.

[Ahldagor]

Or it could be returning the favor.

Let me break it down for you. If your voting with other people's pocketbook, then you are personally assaulting them with the state. You dont get to sit up in your ivory tower with the whole "no hard feelings, pal, mob rules" approach to politics, censoring, ridiculing, setting the rules for, and then ad hominem attacking anyone and everyone for daring to criticize your communistic ways.

Then when you drive to the root of the issue and outright admit that your motivations are purely for your own selfish gain, you lose the moral highground and your "greater good" becomes the "insatiable horde".

You are not entitled to MY wages. Ive already quite clearly illustrated that YOUR economic leanings intend to steal food out of mine and my family's mouth, yet you throw a couple token words along the lines of "gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette". Well, guess what mother fucker, this family of eggs isnt going to remain civil while you blow sunshine and rainbows up my dress. I dont wear dresses.

If you want money, get a fucking job and earn it like the rest of us.

If you want "affordable healthcare" then get yourself in shape to where your healthcare is affordable.

If you to get laid, make yourself desirable so that people want to have sex with you.

Ocassional-cortex isnt going to save you. Your little communist dsa party with 50k people aren't going to go actualizing a revolution for you. (How did anti-fascists recently get linked with anti-semitism? BTW: its exactly like i said; shadow-projection. Anti-fascism is fascism.
Anti-semitic racism : check
Anti-white racism: check
Authoritarian: check
Censors language: check
Uses "implicit provocations" as a means to justify economic persecution: check
Uses "implicit provocations" as a rationalization for violence: check

You're fucking fascist, man. Red fascism, brown communism, as Rohle said 80 years ago, they are the same thing: virtually indistinguishable.


Guess who can create the revolution, in your life, for you!? Protip: its the person you see in the mirror when you brush your teeth and waddle out of the shower once a week.

The world doesn't owe you shit by merely sliding out of a vagina. Its a fairly ordinary occurence. Your actions, in this life, is what matters and no one is ever going to care for you better than you can care for yourself; no one else is in a better position to.

Lol, you're retarded. Stay on the eugenics claim I brought up in regards to your insult of Bonkers.

[Throndor]

Lol, you're retarded. Stay on the eugenics claim I brought up in regards to your insult of Bonkers.

If i'm "retarded" what does that make you babbling idiots?

[Ahldagor]

If i'm "retarded" what does that make you babbling idiots?

Stop avoiding the topic between us at the moment, weakling.

[Throndor]

Now I want to point out a few things. He isn't talking about making people like throndor pay 80%. And while It's really annoying how he pretends like Republicans just inherently hate successful women of color (they love women of color that espose their views) -- that really shouldn't undo the bulk of what this opinion piece was actually about.

Soaking the rich. Lets all cannibalize the ultra rich...the mildly rich should be spared IMO -- lots of them are good people.

You don't have to be a communist to see the merit in getting rid of parasite gentry class. They are the biggest welfare bums of them all.


Krugman's (as well as Shaviro's) academic work (before he turned into a news media propagandist), was one of my sources in my 10-page rhetorical analysis of the evolution of zombie myth in pop culture required for 102.

World war Z had just came out, and I provided a response to how zombie myth has evolved from being primarily about a critique of the vampiric nature of capitalism and it's zombificating effect on the working class proletariat; as detailed on "Night of the Living Dead" with the mall scenes;

Then it evolved into a critique of colonial (western) racism's "colonial gaze"; as detailed by Lauro et all using foucaltian dialectic analysis relating to how zombie myth evolved from "Night of the living Dead" into a dehumanizing means justifying the oppression/destruction of "others", as detailed in more recent "kill em all" zombie films prevelant throughout the '90s, and early '00s, only to be ressurected in the early '10s (Walking Dead);

Then i went on to explain how in most recent films/series such as World War Z, the metaphor was more about an fear of globalization, with zombie apocalypse being a worldwide phenomenon that originates within third-world countries starved into a sort of insatiable un-life, which then radiates out to the western world, and how this development is metaphorically relatable to a underlying fear of globalization that is simultaneously exacerbating environmental issues in addition to threatening the western world with "contracting" the disease of an acute scarcity of resources, and environmental catastrophism caused by global transport and distribution of resources in an attempt to placate the zombie's insatiably bottomless hunger.

100%'d it and included it in my Junior writing portfolio. Even though it ran counter to leftist ideology as it pertains to racism, and marxist critique of capitalism, they gobbled it up and pushed me to attempt getting it published, regardless. I did some psychological trickery to ally myself with them, but I didn't want to publish it because I knew a lot of it was giving my sources more credit than they deserved since, for the most part, their critiques were outdated and no longer resembling contemporary societal ills.

This was earlier in Obama's term, just as he began reigniting the flames of racism within this country, (in conjuction with help from the DSA and their participation in the development of BLM (remember the mid-west fairground incident, where large gangs of blacks waited around out front of the fairgrounds to beat, and hospitalize white men in front of their families without provocation?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/race...ace-war-2011-8

; and a few years before this societal fear of globalization and backlash against anti-white racism manifested in the election of Donald Trump.
https://fox6now.com/2016/11/10/distu...nt-vote-trump/
and then we had the rust belt incidences where black people rioted and blocked roadways so that they could drag white people out of their cars beat them without provocation.

Some Babe Ruth level intuiting the future shit.

If the left doesn't back away from the "global communism without borders" and promoting unprovoked violence on people for "implicitly being white" theme, they're going to lose everything, including their credibility, while destroying the environment in the process. Anti-Fascism is Fascism. Anti-Racism is racism.

Do you have any idea how bad exponentially increasing the carbon footprint by attempting to equalize and import the third world into the western world is?

We should be aiming to reduce the extravagancy of the first world while promoting a minimalist lifestyle; not looking to maximize our market exposure by pushing globalized distribution of carbon-footprint-heavy western materialism upon the rest of the still developing, underdeveloped, and undeveloped 2nd and 3rd world.

Overindulgence and gluttony is antithesis to living a "minimalist" lifestyle both economically and environmentally. And that is just one element why, despite knowing that some things are "unfair" i believe the left is entirely wrong in their recent approaches toward remedying societal ills.

Regards,
Throndor

[Throndor]

Not going to let you drown out civil discourse and a cogent point, with insults and post-spamming Alh. With all due respect; fuck you.

By the way, Juris Dictum's point two is why I said, i'm not opposed to raising the estate tax on inheritences over 1million, but that there should not even be an estate tax on values below that.

1 million, in today's economy is 1 single-family home in one of the competitive major cities throughout the country. It's enough to possibly get through all the red tape regulating the starting of a modest business with the ability to hire an employee or 3.

Daffy and Bugs then decided to go full retard, and this is what i mean by entirely lacking prudence/temperence.

[Wonkie]

Krugman's (as well as Shaviro's) academic work (before he turned into a news media propagandist), was one of my sources in my 10-page rhetorical analysis of the evolution of zombie myth in pop culture required for 102.

World war Z had just came out, and I provided a response to how zombie myth has evolved from being primarily about a critique of the vampiric nature of capitalism and it's zombificating effect on the working class proletariat; as detailed on "Night of the Living Dead" with the mall scenes;

Then it evolved into a critique of colonial (western) racism's "colonial gaze"; as detailed by Lauro et all using foucaltian dialectic analysis relating to how zombie myth evolved from "Night of the living Dead" into a dehumanizing means justifying the oppression/destruction of "others", as detailed in more recent "kill em all" zombie films prevelant throughout the '90s, and early '00s, only to be ressurected in the early '10s (Walking Dead);

Then i went on to explain how in most recent films/series such as World War Z, the metaphor was more about an fear of globalization, with zombie apocalypse being a worldwide phenomenon that originates within third-world countries starved into a sort of insatiable un-life, which then radiates out to the western world, and how this development is metaphorically relatable to a underlying fear of globalization that is simultaneously exacerbating environmental issues in addition to threatening the western world with "contracting" the disease of an acute scarcity of resources, and environmental catastrophism caused by global transport and distribution of resources in an attempt to placate the zombie's insatiably bottomless hunger.

100%'d it and included it in my Junior writing portfolio. Even though it ran counter to leftist ideology as it pertains to racism, and marxist critique of capitalism, they gobbled it up and pushed me to attempt getting it published, regardless. I did some psychological trickery to ally myself with them, but I didn't want to publish it because I knew a lot of it was giving my sources more credit than they deserved since, for the most part, their critiques were outdated and no longer resembling contemporary societal ills.

This was earlier in Obama's term, just as he began reigniting the flames of racism within this country, (in conjuction with help from the DSA and their participation in the development of BLM (remember the mid-west fairground incident, where large gangs of blacks waited around out front of the fairgrounds to beat, and hospitalize white men in front of their families without provocation?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/race...ace-war-2011-8

; and a few years before this societal fear of globalization and backlash against anti-white racism manifested in the election of Donald Trump.
https://fox6now.com/2016/11/10/distu...nt-vote-trump/
and then we had the rust belt incidences where black people rioted and blocked roadways so that they could drag white people out of their cars beat them without provocation.

Some Babe Ruth level intuiting the future shit.

If the left doesn't back away from the "global communism without borders" and promoting unprovoked violence on people for "implicitly being white" theme, they're going to lose everything, including their credibility, while destroying the environment in the process. Anti-Fascism is Fascism. Anti-Racism is racism.

Do you have any idea how bad exponentially increasing the carbon footprint by attempting to equalize and import the third world into the western world is?

We should be aiming to reduce the extravagancy of the first world while promoting a minimalist lifestyle; not looking to maximize our market exposure by pushing globalized distribution of carbon-footprint-heavy western materialism upon the rest of the still developing, underdeveloped, and undeveloped 2nd and 3rd world.

Overindulgence and gluttony is antithesis to living a "minimalist" lifestyle both economically and environmentally. And that is just one element why, despite knowing that some things are "unfair" i believe the left is entirely wrong in their recent approaches toward remedying societal ills.

Regards,
Throndor

same

[Throndor]

Seek Christ weirdo

Thou Shalt Not Steal

Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's (Property)

[Wonkie]

Thou Shalt Not Steal

Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's (Property)

The Tenth Commandment for Jews and most Protestants is the entire "thou shalt not covet" passage. But Catholics and Lutherans list two "thou shalt not covet" commandments: one against coveting your neighbor's wife and one against coveting your neighbor's property, including his ass

[Throndor]

The Tenth Commandment for Jews and most Protestants is the entire "thou shalt not covet" passage. But Catholics and Lutherans list two "thou shalt not covet" commandments: one against coveting your neighbor's wife and one against coveting your neighbor's property, including his ass

Aye, but when your entire political philosophy of one of "covetting" other people's shit and stealing it from them through the government; it's kind of wierd to tell your opposition to seek christ. Especially when you are confronted about it, and you lie, and furtively tell stories that aren't true to defend your position (bearing false witness).

It's pretty much a triple crown of sinful hypocrasy.

[Wonkie]

Aye, but when your entire political philosophy of one of "covetting" other people's shit and stealing it from them through the government; it's kind of wierd to tell your opposition to seek christ. Especially when you are confronted about it, and you lie, and furtively tell stories that aren't true to defend your position (bearing false witness).

It's pretty much a triple crown of sinful hypocrasy.

taxation is theft is equally immature&retarded as gay luxury space communism, you aren't supposed to really believe the rhetoric, Lord of Dinguses

[feniin]

Translation: "I'm not the one who will be shafted, so fuck em lol!"

Slavery didn't affect white people, so why did they even bother abolishing it?

You know how immature and retarded you sound?

I literally do not give a single fuck about the overtaxed oligarch.