View Full Version : Rogue creation guide?
fischsemmel
01-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Well I'm in the mood to make a rogue alt, but I've never played a melee on live or p1999 before so I don't know much about the mechanics of melee.
The likelihood of me ever raiding anything is quite low, but I do really enjoy min/maxing my characters as best as I can, given that limitation.
Which stats are how important for a rogue? I can't find anything out on google or the wiki or anything other than "str = dmg, agi = defense, dex = procs, stam = hp"... and that's not quite as much detail as I'd like.
fischsemmel
01-24-2011, 05:30 PM
Should I just drop 25 into strength and 5 into dex, no matter my race? Or is it worth bringing non-strength stats up to a certain point before I put the remainder in strength, or what?
Rejuvenation
01-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Strength is by far the easiest stat to raise (Well, Charisma isnt tough either).
You can max str with ~187 str with items + shaman buffs, so I wouldn't put 25 points into strenght.
I always put 25 into stamina, because it always was the hardest for me to raise, and was the most useful in the long run. (For melee/hybrid at least)
Chanus
01-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Drop all your points into Strength.
Your DPS comes from Backstab, your damage with Backstab comes from Strength.
Ponden
01-24-2011, 05:39 PM
Drop all your points into Strength.
Your DPS comes from Backstab, your damage with Backstab comes from Strength.
Don't listen to this kid. Race doesn't matter. Put all points into stamina, the rest into dex(honestly the rest don't matter!). Get your strength to 187 unbuffed. Use an evade hotkey.
fischsemmel
01-24-2011, 05:40 PM
Strength is by far the easiest stat to raise (Well, Charisma isnt tough either).
You can max str with ~187 str with items + shaman buffs, so I wouldn't put 25 points into strenght.
I always put 25 into stamina, because it always was the hardest for me to raise, and was the most useful in the long run. (For melee/hybrid at least)
Strength cap increases with kunark though, right? And remembering that I'm not going to be getting raid gear, will I still be easily capping my strength then?
How is stamina "most useful in the long run"? What all does it do? Just give hit points?
Ponden
01-24-2011, 05:43 PM
STA = HP. The more hp you have, the longer you stay alive. The longer you stay alive, the more damage you can do.
Strength can be capped fairly easy and fairly cheap. Stamina very difficult to cap as a Rogue if you don't raid.
fischsemmel
01-24-2011, 05:48 PM
Guess I didn't realize I would be taking so much damage in experience groups that I need to worry about my stamina so much.
SirAlvarex
01-24-2011, 05:49 PM
Basic STR items:
Mithril Legs: 7STR
Mithril Vambraces: 7STR
Thick Banded Belt: 15STR
Hero Bracers: 10STR
Gloomwater Harpoon: 4STR
43STR right there, so I can see where the idea that capping strength is easy.
Those are also all very expensive items for the non-raiding player. A Barbarian will already be at or above max desirable unbuffed strength with those items.
Dex wouldn't be a great choice, as you typically *don't* want your weapons to proc. AGI is practically useless, so that leaves STA.
But if you are going Wood Elf or Gnome, STR wouldn't be a bad investment. However, if you chose those two races you aren't Min-Maxing, so who really cares, eh?
(Note I only picked high STR items from the top of my head, I'm sure there are better items out there for non-raiders).
Ponden
01-24-2011, 05:50 PM
Most random xp groups you will take dmg. Not a lot, but you will. Trust me.
stonebeard22
01-24-2011, 05:58 PM
Specially in the lower ends. 10-30. Taunt is still almost worthless at this point as a warrior. However its not usually rogues pulling Agro its magicians.
Dr4z3r
01-24-2011, 06:24 PM
Specially in the lower ends. 10-30. Taunt is still almost worthless at this point as a warrior. However its not usually rogues pulling Agro its magicians.
Taunt is almost worthless as a warrior between 10 and whenever they buffed it in Kunark.
Knuckle
01-25-2011, 03:01 AM
Well I'm in the mood to make a rogue alt, but I've never played a melee on live or p1999 before so I don't know much about the mechanics of melee.
The likelihood of me ever raiding anything is quite low, but I do really enjoy min/maxing my characters as best as I can, given that limitation.
Which stats are how important for a rogue? I can't find anything out on google or the wiki or anything other than "str = dmg, agi = defense, dex = procs, stam = hp"... and that's not quite as much detail as I'd like.
play the race you want, put your points into stamina.
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