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Kelor
12-31-2016, 10:17 AM
Could we see some crazy ToV geared delvled monk solo him? I remember seeing a monk do this on live, but it might not of been till PoP or even later.

Ivory
12-31-2016, 10:19 AM
Like....dis? :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqM8jsnavrw

Nommis
12-31-2016, 10:32 AM
More like this, except 6 months prior:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAA4NeK46rE&feature=youtu.be

brecon
12-31-2016, 10:33 AM
How is that interface mod with bag slots allowed.

Also he said a deleveled monk on Nagafen, not a 60 on Ragefire.

Nommis
12-31-2016, 11:05 AM
How is that interface mod with bag slots allowed.

Also he said a deleveled monk on Nagafen, not a 60 on Ragefire.

Exalt is the only monk I know that actively started de-leveling for the Naggy challenge. Whereabouts unknown though.

khanable
12-31-2016, 11:14 AM
It was Tecknoe and he was well beyond TOV geared: https://eq.magelo.com/profile/13186

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=godpodw6ylA

http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/showthread.php?13160-Monk-Soloing-Naggy&

looks like he did vox too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvrD4cUbBTU

Spit
12-31-2016, 10:02 PM
It was Tecknoe and he was well beyond TOV geared: https://eq.magelo.com/profile/13186

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=godpodw6ylA

http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/showthread.php?13160-Monk-Soloing-Naggy&

looks like he did vox too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvrD4cUbBTU

at the time of the videos, it was ToV gear

Quarken aka Tecknoe played for YEARS AND YEARS and probably still does today on live, that magelo is an extremely updated one with modern day EQ live twink gear.

Swish
12-31-2016, 10:09 PM
how do people count it as solo when they have full raid buffs *cringe*

Best part of the solo artist challenge thread is people like Daldaen trying to tick off boxes/achievements by using puppet strings and other clickies.

If you need that kind of help along with a full suit of buffs from others you're really bending the "solo" part of it imo

Dreenk317
12-31-2016, 10:41 PM
If you use Puppet strings, you have to demarcate it in the solo artist thread because it's obviously an OP clicky. Not sure why you're upset :)

Ya, but isn't there also a rule against having buffs cast on you?

mr_jon3s
12-31-2016, 10:58 PM
Not sure why you're upset :)

When isn't swish upset?

Swish
12-31-2016, 11:02 PM
When isn't swish upset?

Better yet, when arent people upset with me? I bring quality posts and content to the forums, how about a thank you once in a while?

I just think there should be a separate "Solo(ish) Artist Challenge" thread for clarity

Erati
01-01-2017, 01:15 AM
what about two druids clearing their way through the FGs then duoing Ragefire himself?

video of Ragefire druid duo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKupqVJELZc&feature=youtu.be

Jimjam
01-01-2017, 05:34 AM
Better yet, when arent people upset with me? I bring quality posts and content to the forums, how about a thank you once in a while?

I just think there should be a separate "Solo(ish) Artist Challenge" thread for clarity

Raid Where Everyone Else AFKed After Buffs Challenge


what about two druids clearing their way through the FGs then duoing Ragefire himself?

video of Ragefire druid duo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKupqVJELZc&feature=youtu.be

Clearly fake, I'm always told that druids are useless indoors ;D.

Swish
01-01-2017, 06:05 AM
Raid Where Everyone Else AFKed After Buffs Challenge

Sounds like some casual guild action right there :P

brecon
01-01-2017, 06:54 AM
Clearly fake, I'm always told that druids are useless indoors ;D.

Druids*, since a druid with a puppet string is basically just an enchanter. I respect the druids thinking outside of the box, but I'd really be impressed if they did it with 2x sonic bats.

I think with Velious content at this point, there are some obvious solo and duo artist challenges that can be done - especially with 2x strings as in this video. I'd love to see more outside of the box thinking. Maybe two clerics with strings, CH-chaining a tank pet? Gotta be some impressive kills out there to accomplish.

Jimjam
01-01-2017, 08:49 AM
Druids*, since a druid with a puppet string is basically just an enchanter. I respect the druids thinking outside of the box, but I'd really be impressed if they did it with 2x sonic bats.

I think with Velious content at this point, there are some obvious solo and duo artist challenges that can be done - especially with 2x strings as in this video. I'd love to see more outside of the box thinking. Maybe two clerics with strings, CH-chaining a tank pet? Gotta be some impressive kills out there to accomplish.
Tongue was wedged firmly in cheek!

There are a few velious zones with both raid mobs and merchants, right?... Could even recharge clickies midfight!

Daldaen
01-01-2017, 11:32 AM
Druids*, since a druid with a puppet string is basically just an enchanter. I respect the druids thinking outside of the box, but I'd really be impressed if they did it with 2x sonic bats.

I think with Velious content at this point, there are some obvious solo and duo artist challenges that can be done - especially with 2x strings as in this video. I'd love to see more outside of the box thinking. Maybe two clerics with strings, CH-chaining a tank pet? Gotta be some impressive kills out there to accomplish.

Eratani and I duo'd Brother Qwinn on our 60 clerics using Puppet Strings back in Kunark (no Donals).

Strings plus 2x casters can do quite a few different interesting things.

lurk
01-01-2017, 05:09 PM
Ixiblat duo is the most impressive thus far imo. Dont even know what would be next in line after that

Tasslehofp99
01-01-2017, 08:51 PM
Ixiblat duo is the most impressive thus far imo. Dont even know what would be next in line after that

Ixiblat is tough but you can pre-slow him, which essentially makes him a joke.

Briscoe
01-01-2017, 09:39 PM
Exalt is the only monk I know that actively started de-leveling for the Naggy challenge. Whereabouts unknown though.

/thread

LostCause
01-01-2017, 10:02 PM
like others said how is it solo when you have full raid buffs and use clickys..

Daldaen
01-01-2017, 10:10 PM
Clickies cannot be used when soloing? What?

Daldaen
01-01-2017, 10:30 PM
Lol... what?

Clickies that greatly trivialize the content trivialize the achievement?

But weapons and armor don't? I don't follow the logic.

Swish
01-01-2017, 10:56 PM
Lol... what?

Clickies that greatly trivialize the content trivialize the achievement?

But weapons and armor don't? I don't follow the logic.

Sorry you failed the Solo Artist Challenge doping test, please try to do some legit ones without puppet strings and a full suit of buffs <3

Dreenk317
01-01-2017, 10:59 PM
Lol... what?

Clickies that greatly trivialize the content trivialize the achievement?

But weapons and armor don't? I don't follow the logic.

I think he means the soul fire CH from inventory type stuff. I'm pretty sure the original devs didn't intend for necros to be able to CH there warrior buddy. Or wizards to CH there monk pal. And the original Devs have already stated that recharging was a bug that they left in. So it was definitely not there intent for these clickies to be re-used.

I think that's what he means by "clickies that trivialize the content." Verses gear that does. Sure, your monk might have crazy haste and weapons with ratios that just didn't exist in old world, but they are still items for the monk. Whereas clicky CH is not on any item that is monk usable, but it is on items that don't require equipping, therefore monks now can CH themselves. An unforeseen ability that they should not have ever gotten in any way.

At least I think that's what he means.

Edit: As far as I'm concerned, solo means that you can do it without outside help of any kind, from any class (i.e. self buffs only). And that you can do it using only the abilities granted to your class. (No puppet strings/CH clickies/etc.). But that's just my defenition

Daldaen
01-01-2017, 11:12 PM
Meh, CH from inventory type stuff if you're burning 6 charges sure.

But having a Gharns / Fist of Nature/Lighting vs. someone in more era appropriate Epic/SoS is an enormous difference, to the point of not even needing a single CH charge to accomplish a solo kill. I'm sure a red player with best-in-slot gear (minus the obvious AoW/Tunare stuff they can't get) from raiding could kill something like Ragefire only using a full wort pot or two compared to a blue monk with just Epic/SoS and kunark style gear who couldn't pull it off even with a full soulfire and 5 wort pots.

In this era there are a few extremely OP abilities like Slow/Charm totally trivialize the content. Using Mallets and Puppet Strings just allows more classes to attempt these solo kills that wouldn't be able to otherwise. Likewise with Torpor vs. Wort Pots/SoulFires allows some classes to extend their lifespan slightly.

Otherwise the list is just a bunch of Torpor Shamans who get lucky and stick slow early or Enchanters who had good luck on charms not breaking.

Not that any of this is an enormous achievement anyways, done Ragefire with Druid/Warrior using no clickies too, but that's not as entertaining as using Druid/Druid using clickies. Which is sort of the point of these, to entertain yourself by doing things with less than intended or odd methods of doing kills.

Daldaen
01-01-2017, 11:45 PM
All of these solo kills are done by well geared players burning OP clickies. The orignal poster's recollection of a monk soloing Nagafen was done by a 52 Monk with Tunare/PoP weaponry using bags of Prayers of Life for example.

Again, its not about being impressive. Its about finding something to entertain you when you're playing on a server that's locked in the same expansion for many years. That's what spawned the original solo artist's challenge thread. 5 years of Kunark.

Raev
01-02-2017, 01:19 AM
Daldaen has the right idea IMO.

Velious gear trivializes a huge amount of content and completely unbalances melee vs casters. For example Quean and I were duoing Serczema's temple in SG Monk/Monk and clearing over half of the sirens there (no servants, obviously) per cycle with zero downtime.

And yeah, right now we don't think using Puppet Strings and Wort Pots is that impressive, but back in 2011 when the Solo Artist Challenge launched people had no clue what was possible. For example:


God mode:
[ ] Myconid Spore King [56 Paladin]
[ ] Emperor Chottal [60 Necromancer]
[ ] Phinigel Autropos [53 Wizard]
[ ] Neh'Ashiir [54 Enchanter]
[ ] Lord Rak'Ashiir [55 Wizard]
[ ] Tolapumj [59 Enchanter]
[ ] Korocust [61 Warrior]
[ ] sebilite protector [60 Warrior]

I'd be amazed to see anyone solo any of these really. Perhaps Emp Chottal I can see happening. Neh and Rak, I dont think are super hard, but finding a proper pet might be. And Neh can be a bitch with her CHing and her enchanter pet...

Faz is and was by any measure one of the better players on the server.

And many of these were eventually done without clickies, like Maurice doing Emperor Chottal on his enchanter with (IIRC) 1 reaper charge.

botrainer
01-02-2017, 02:17 AM
That first youtube video with that U.I...man that makes me think the U.I itself provides a major advantage..really kills that classic feel when people use U.I.'s that give them an edge to have an overview of all their items / bags located in 1 window...Open UI and bam all your bags open, all your items easily displayed. Disappointing.