What's the going rate for ports?

[Weaselblighter]

Is there a commonly accepted standard amount to pay for a port? The couple of times I've gotten a ride I've given them 5-6pp, which doesn't seem like a lot but I don't really have a lot. Is there a standard? Am I offending the world's druids?

[TripleLegit]

One plat per level of the one getting a port seems to be the standard

[Squabbles123]

One plat per level of the one getting a port seems to be the standard

30-40 plat seems a bit steep.

I usually give 10p and I think thats MORE than enough.

[tiadashi]

Is there a commonly accepted standard amount to pay for a port? The couple of times I've gotten a ride I've given them 5-6pp, which doesn't seem like a lot but I don't really have a lot. Is there a standard? Am I offending the world's druids?

just ask before you get the port if what your offering is acceptable to them - everyone has different ideas on what is acceptable

[bum3]

I give 10p if it's just me. 5p if they are heading there anyway with another person. My max char is lvl 24 though.

[Tupakk]

Generally 1p per level but it all depends on the player.

We can clearly tell if you are a new player or not. I know most of the time when a newer player hands me plat I just dont accept it. Sometimes even give them plat or gear from port trades.

Give what you can til you can make enough to pay what you really want to.

[bum3]

2-pac always with the wise words. Even after his fake death.

[shams]

My main is a druid and I see a whole range of tips, today for instance I was tipped anywhere from 6pp to 50pp. On average I'd day people give between 15-25pp, but it fluctuates. In any case, don't sweat it too much. The most important thing is that you just say thanks or something. :) EQ is a social game and I get a lot of satisfaction out of making someone's EQ session just a little bit nicer.

[Tupakk]

My main is a druid and I see a whole range of tips, today for instance I was tipped anywhere from 6pp to 50pp. On average I'd day people give between 15-25pp, but it fluctuates. In any case, don't sweat it too much. The most important thing is that you just say thanks or something. :) EQ is a social game and I get a lot of satisfaction out of making someone's EQ session just a little bit nicer.

Wanna join. You seem like a down to earth guy/girl and we are always looking for cool headed ppl.

[Zekayy]

Tupakk owes me exp

[Swish]

1pp/level, but anyone under level 20 on their first character should just give what they can...often it'll be free.

[Tupakk]

Tupakk owes me exp

You owe me an EPIC, screw your EXP *muah*

[Lifebar]

I always did 1pp/level and capped it at 50. If I didn't have the pp at the time I would let the porter know in my initial tell.

[Skinned]

I pay 1pp per level with a minimum of 20 plat. For most of my guys it is in the 30s and 40s. Whenever I stop what I'm doing to help out somebody trying to get somewhere and they give me 5pp I feel like I shouldn't help the next guy. Newbies are fine though and I'll help a naked character out. Translocates are making this less of a problem even if it is taking several minutes of mana recovery time.

I could gate to CT, run through Feerott, kill a HG and get 7 ports worth of tips off one mana bar.

I just take it and say thank you. At least I'm not their waiter.

New players obviously get leeway. A level 30 sk with a noct blade can pay!

[Weaselblighter]

Thanks for the info, all.

I do like p99 for the number of folks offering ports all around; it's MUCH easier to get around than I remember on live!

[bum3]

New players obviously get leeway. A level 30 sk with a noct blade can pay!

Don't say this is another post. You'll get skinned alive. =) I learned my lesson. The lesson was - Rich ppl need more loot than poor people because they do more work in a group than untwinkeds.

[Ravager]

Don't say this is another post. You'll get skinned alive. =) I learned my lesson. The lesson was - Rich ppl need more loot than poor people because they do more work in a group than untwinkeds.
Not once in that argument did I say the rich did more than the poor in a group. I would say reread it for proof, but it's clear you didn't read it in the first place, otherwise you'd know that. So read it. The argument was against shaming someone for wanting to roll on something because of what they were wearing. The argument was for equal share in loot in a group where everyone has an equal hand in making loot drop. Quite the opposite of what you say here.

To the OP, pay what you think is fair for you to pay. Whether you get the port or not from any particular porter will work itself out.

[tiadashi]

Don't say this is another post. You'll get skinned alive. =) I learned my lesson. The lesson was - Rich ppl need more loot than poor people because they do more work in a group than untwinkeds.

Ya I had one of these types when I finally got my first ports - 60th lvl chanter decked out, paid me zero assumed it was free, then offered to sell me a ring for more then it was worth and ran off - I didnt complain but thats some serious douche baggery, right Herb 8P

[Gumbo]

If I port players, I work on a tip payment, not a set payment. So they can tip me whatever they want but I do keep in mind the players who are all twinked out and need a ride to Wakening Lands or Great Divide and throw me nothing...

I've also seen players post on here saying how they are making thousands of platinum an hour from ports cause they are getting 300-500 platinum a port. I have gotten a few ports where the player was generous to give me 100 platinum but it was mainly cause I went out of my way to pick them up in a dangerous zone and took them to another dangerous zone.

[ko37qtl]

I don't advertise as a teleporter. I occasionally respond to people looking for ports in /auction or /ooc. If it's a port from the same zone to another zone that isn't hazardous, I hope to see 10pp. I don't bother asking about it up-front and if it's less, I'll accept it with a smile because it's not worth getting bent out of shape. If I'm going somewhere to pick up or drop off in someplace potentially hazardous, I'm much more likely to nail down a price beforehand to see if I'm interested.

I'm not particularly moved to port lowbies for free if I'm just saving them time. They're a timesaver no matter the level and if you don't have the money, I think walking or boats work fine (I follow this logic on my own characters). Helping someone out of a jam is completely different and I'm fine to go out of my way to help when possible.

[Baler]

30-50 plat. More for 'special' stuff.

Porting to make plat is not a good strategy in terms of plat per hour.

[nectarprime]

Whenever I stop what I'm doing to help out somebody trying to get somewhere and they give me 5pp I feel like I shouldn't help the next guy!
You are what is wrong with EQ

[bum3]

Not once in that argument did I say the rich did more than the poor in a group. I would say reread it for proof, but it's clear you didn't read it in the first place, otherwise you'd know that. So read it. The argument was against shaming someone for wanting to roll on something because of what they were wearing. The argument was for equal share in loot in a group where everyone has an equal hand in making loot drop. Quite the opposite of what you say here.

To the OP, pay what you think is fair for you to pay. Whether you get the port or not from any particular porter will work itself out.

Take your own advice please sir.

[Ravager]

Take your own advice please sir.
It's clear you just want to go on believing what you want to believe, despite the facts. Good luck with that. We are done.

[Squabbles123]

Not once in that argument did I say the rich did more than the poor in a group. I would say reread it for proof, but it's clear you didn't read it in the first place, otherwise you'd know that. So read it. The argument was against shaming someone for wanting to roll on something because of what they were wearing. The argument was for equal share in loot in a group where everyone has an equal hand in making loot drop. Quite the opposite of what you say here.



As someone fairly new the server without much in the way of gear (my 35 is still mostly in banded armor, plus a few totemic items I've gotten all by myself), if I was grouped with a highly twinked character and an item dropped that would be an obvious upgrade for me and I have to roll against the twink...having to roll against them at all would put a bad taste in my mouth and if they actually WIN it against me and keep it, then I'll gladly blacklist them and avoid any interaction with them and probably anyone they are guided with until I stop playing.

For the twinked character its a small sum of money, for me its a piece of gear I'll probably use for 20 levels, and stealing that from me because you can make an extra 100pp (which you can make in like an hour of farming whatever on your main) will result in my distain for you forever.

You want to keep the server healthy, don't "steal" from lowbies.

[Skinned]

You are what is wrong with EQ

Ride the boats then.

[nectarprime]

Ride the boats then.

nah, I tip people for ports all the time. But you doing something nice just because you are rewarded is really, really stupid and childish

[Ravager]

As someone fairly new the server without much in the way of gear (my 35 is still mostly in banded armor, plus a few totemic items I've gotten all by myself), if I was grouped with a highly twinked character and an item dropped that would be an obvious upgrade for me and I have to roll against the twink...having to roll against them at all would put a bad taste in my mouth and if they actually WIN it against me and keep it, then I'll gladly blacklist them and avoid any interaction with them and probably anyone they are guided with until I stop playing.

For the twinked character its a small sum of money, for me its a piece of gear I'll probably use for 20 levels, and stealing that from me because you can make an extra 100pp (which you can make in like an hour of farming whatever on your main) will result in my distain for you forever.

You want to keep the server healthy, don't "steal" from lowbies.
I understand the reasoning behind this, but you have to see the whole picture to see that this kind of thinking is unfair and irrational.

What is assumed in this line of thinking is that EQ economics are analogous to real life economics when it is plainly not the case. When someone wins loot in a group, it feels like the others in the group have "lost" when they haven't lost anything. If a twink wins a piece of loot fairly on a roll, the other 5 are not going to lose their house in Kelethin as a result. They're not going to miss a meal or lose their health insurance. If they really, really want that item, the most they can possibly lose is extra time to go and get it for themselves: time playing a video game that they were going to spend time playing anyway.

Now the argument is that the twink can go farm plat to just buy the item they roll on. That's true for the noob too. There are plenty of low level camps new players can use to farm plat (and many do), so why should the twink be told to go out of his way to farm plat when even a first timer on this server has the same capacity? What makes the twink's time less important than a lesser-geared player?

But if the twink is being a lootwhore and winning all of the loot and not passing on things when he's already won something, then you can rightly call him out for being a greedy d-bag.

We are sufficiently off topic now. Be fair to your porters with your plat people, they are spending their time to save you yours.

[Skinned]

nah, I tip people for ports all the time. But you doing something nice just because you are rewarded is really, really stupid and childish

You seem to be displacing some anger on me. Quid pro quo isn't stupid or childish.

[nectarprime]

You seem to be displacing some anger on me. Quid pro quo isn't stupid or childish.

Being nice is its own reward. They teach you this in elementary school.

[Skinned]

Being nice is its own reward. They teach you this in elementary school.

In graduate school for social work they trained me to encourage people to be self-sufficient and not dependent on others.

If a player was an elementary school child trying to get someone I would give them a hand.

I still port people, but I'm always disappointed in poor and cheap skate tippers. Like I said before, at least I'm not their waiter. Go stiff your waiter and tell them being nice is its own reward lol.

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[nectarprime]

In graduate school for social work they trained me to encourage people to be self-sufficient and not dependent on others.

If a player was an elementary school child trying to get someone I would give them a hand.

I still port people, but I'm always disappointed in poor and cheap skate tippers. Like I said before, at least I'm not their waiter. Go stiff your waiter and tell them being nice is its own reward lol.

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I love it when people on the internet have to make up credentials to make themselves sound smart.

You're the one who said you only help people to be rewarded by the way

[Skinned]

I love it when people on the internet have to make up credentials to make themselves sound smart.

You're the one who said you only help people to be rewarded by the way

I just didn't say that.

And who fakes a job as a social worker lol.

No need to defend cheap people. I run on my alts and ride boats all the time.

Still seems like you're taking something out on me.

[Squabbles123]

I understand the reasoning behind this, but you have to see the whole picture to see that this kind of thinking is unfair and irrational.

What is assumed in this line of thinking is that EQ economics are analogous to real life economics when it is plainly not the case. When someone wins loot in a group, it feels like the others in the group have "lost" when they haven't lost anything. If a twink wins a piece of loot fairly on a roll, the other 5 are not going to lose their house in Kelethin as a result. They're not going to miss a meal or lose their health insurance. If they really, really want that item, the most they can possibly lose is extra time to go and get it for themselves: time playing a video game that they were going to spend time playing anyway.

Now the argument is that the twink can go farm plat to just buy the item they roll on. That's true for the noob too. There are plenty of low level camps new players can use to farm plat (and many do), so why should the twink be told to go out of his way to farm plat when even a first timer on this server has the same capacity? What makes the twink's time less important than a lesser-geared player?

But if the twink is being a lootwhore and winning all of the loot and not passing on things when he's already won something, then you can rightly call him out for being a greedy d-bag.

We are sufficiently off topic now. Be fair to your porters with your plat people, they are spending their time to save you yours.

The twink doesn't need to farm, he farms on his main which is level 60 and can make 4x the money a new player could make in half the time.

How is the non-twink going to farm giants or specters? The amount of locations for a newer player to realistically farm money are few, much less than the level 60 main has access to. Why should the new player spend every penny they have because the twink who has 60k in the bank wanted an extra 100pp?

The bottom line is the twink doesn't need the item, they are effectively rolling for money, the new player actually NEEDS the item to help them continue to play the game. You can not like it all you like, but as I said, if a twink takes my loot, I don't really ever want to play with that person again and will go out of my way to avoid them.

[Skinned]

The twink doesn't need to farm, he farms on his main which is level 60 and can make 4x the money a new player could make in half the time.

How is the non-twink going to farm giants or specters? The amount of locations for a newer player to realistically farm money are few, much less than the level 60 main has access to. Why should the new player spend every penny they have because the twink who has 60k in the bank wanted an extra 100pp?

The bottom line is the twink doesn't need the item, they are effectively rolling for money, the new player actually NEEDS the item to help them continue to play the game. You can not like it all you like, but as I said, if a twink takes my loot, I don't really ever want to play with that person again and will go out of my way to avoid them.

On a personal level I agree with you. I tend not to roll on anything. I also have pretty well developed farming routines.

[Ravager]

The twink doesn't need to farm, he farms on his main which is level 60 and can make 4x the money a new player could make in half the time.

How is the non-twink going to farm giants or specters? The amount of locations for a newer player to realistically farm money are few, much less than thelevel 60 mainhas access to. Why should the new player spend every penny they have because the twink who has 60k in the bank wanted an extra 100pp?

The bottom line is the twink doesn't need the item, they are effectively rolling for money, the new player actually NEEDS the item to help them continue to play the game. You can not like it all you like, but as I said, if a twink takes my loot, I don't really ever want to play with that person again and will go out of my way to avoid them.
The highlighted are assumptions. When you play with enough people, you'll see that the twink with a level 60 farming class main and has 10's of thousands of plat in the bank is atypical. Typically, (at least most examples I've seen) the twinks are being groomed to be new mains by players who are tired of their old mains. The person who twinked that char very likely spent all of their expendable plat to twink that char, and in many cases sold off a lot of their gear on their old main to dress up their new main.

In regard to time. If the twink happens to have a level 60 farming class main, that doesn't mean it's easy to farm plat. There's quite a lot of time involved in travel, in competing with other farmers (especially at the high end) and in safely xfering plat/gear to their twink that could actually use the plat (since I'm assuming you don't expect them to spend their armor). That's time they spend not playing the character they want to play, in service to the character they do want to play. Not to mention, quite often in order to farm a lucrative camp (even something like HG's or spectres) you need to do it at odd hours to both A) get the camp and B) efficiently make plat.

As for the drop that was an upgrade to the newer player, but just plat for the twink, where should the line be? Is there a certain value the item should be before a twink can be allowed to roll on it? 150 plat? 500 plat? 1k? 3k? Should a twink be expected to pass on every drop?

[Squabbles123]

The highlighted are assumptions. When you play with enough people, you'll see that the twink with a level 60 farming class main and has 10's of thousands of plat in the bank is atypical. Typically, (at least most examples I've seen) the twinks are being groomed to be new mains by players who are tired of their old mains. The person who twinked that char very likely spent all of their expendable plat to twink that char, and in many cases sold off a lot of their gear on their old main to dress up their new main.

In regard to time. If the twink happens to have a level 60 farming class main, that doesn't mean it's easy to farm plat. There's quite a lot of time involved in travel, in competing with other farmers (especially at the high end) and in safely xfering plat/gear to their twink that could actually use the plat (since I'm assuming you don't expect them to spend their armor). That's time they spend not playing the character they want to play, in service to the character they do want to play. Not to mention, quite often in order to farm a lucrative camp (even something like HG's or spectres) you need to do it at odd hours to both A) get the camp and B) efficiently make plat.

As for the drop that was an upgrade to the newer player, but just plat for the twink, where should the line be? Is there a certain value the item should be before a twink can be allowed to roll on it? 150 plat? 500 plat? 1k? 3k? Should a twink be expected to pass on every drop?

So I went ahead and bolded your assumptions as well.

Twinking is not required, its optional, you can start a new character and play it "correctly" or just twink some basics (like a decent weapon and banded armor) to get into your teens quickly or something. I would suspect that selling EVERYTHING you own on a character you spent over a year playing to start over is NOT what normally happens. Not every twink out there is a person switching mains (which is a dumb concept on a server like this anyway honestly), I'd wager that MOST of them are just bored with their class and want to try something new, they have tons of money or gear laying around and they use they to fund the new toon. My "main" is a level 35 Shaman right now, I got a decent 1HS and some basic STR items...so I rolled a Paladin and twinked those over (along with a full set of Banded I made for them)...I'm not "switching mains", I'm just interested in playing more than 1 character...I'm already thinking about my 3rd and Paladin is level 12.

You don't need a "farming class" to farm at level 60, a warrior can farm at 60, maybe not blues, but you don't need to kill blues to farm money, literally EVERYONE can farm at 60, so yes, it most certainly is "easy". Sure there is competition, how is that different for the lowbie? He has competition as well, with smaller rewards. As well, the actual "farming classes" can farm naked anyway.

A level 60 doesn't have to worry about travel time, drop 60p (or whatever) on a port or just get a free one from your guild mates. Guild mates could also be used to safely move the items.

They don't need to spend time doing any of that...they already did it, before they made the character. The dude in full colored plate with top tier weapons doesn't need to farm anything.

As far as the line, I suppose that comes down somewhat to the item in question. If its a cheap fairly common item, need before greed, its not hard to inspect a player and see they are wearing junk. If its a EXPENSIVE item, like something worth 1000pp+, I'm okay with something like that being roll on by basically everyone, those are speciality items that are rare and in high demand...I don't expect exclusiveness on an item like THAT. I would prefer in those situations it went to someone who was more likely going to use the item over someone who is just going to sell it (or at least offer to sell it to the loser at a discount), but I can't really complain in that situation.

I'm much more talking basically items before ~ level 50 or so, pre-raid stuff most people don't REALLY care about, stuff half the server just gives away anyway, those things should to given to the non-twinks basically everytime.

[Neetas1320]

10pp for a tip lol you aint gettin sow

[Ravager]

So I went ahead and bolded your assumptions as well.

Twinking is not required, its optional, you can start a new character and play it "correctly" or just twink some basics (like a decent weapon and banded armor) to get into your teens quickly or something. I would suspect that selling EVERYTHING you own on a character you spent over a year playing to start over is NOT what normally happens. Not every twink out there is a person switching mains (which is a dumb concept on a server like this anyway honestly), I'd wager that MOST of them are just bored with their class and want to try something new, they have tons of money or gear laying around and they use they to fund the new toon. My "main" is a level 35 Shaman right now, I got a decent 1HS and some basic STR items...so I rolled a Paladin and twinked those over (along with a full set of Banded I made for them)...I'm not "switching mains", I'm just interested in playing more than 1 character...I'm already thinking about my 3rd and Paladin is level 12.

You don't need a "farming class" to farm at level 60, a warrior can farm at 60, maybe not blues, but you don't need to kill blues to farm money, literally EVERYONE can farm at 60, so yes, it most certainly is "easy". Sure there is competition, how is that different for the lowbie? He has competition as well, with smaller rewards. As well, the actual "farming classes" can farm naked anyway.

A level 60 doesn't have to worry about travel time, drop 60p (or whatever) on a port or just get a free one from your guild mates. Guild mates could also be used to safely move the items.

They don't need to spend time doing any of that...they already did it, before they made the character. The dude in full colored plate with top tier weapons doesn't need to farm anything.

As far as the line, I suppose that comes down somewhat to the item in question. If its a cheap fairly common item, need before greed, its not hard to inspect a player and see they are wearing junk. If its a EXPENSIVE item, like something worth 1000pp+, I'm okay with something like that being roll on by basically everyone, those are speciality items that are rare and in high demand...I don't expect exclusiveness on an item like THAT. I would prefer in those situations it went to someone who was more likely going to use the item over someone who is just going to sell it (or at least offer to sell it to the loser at a discount), but I can't really complain in that situation.

I'm much more talking basically items before ~ level 50 or so, pre-raid stuff most people don't REALLY care about, stuff half the server just gives away anyway, those things should to given to the non-twinks basically everytime.
New players can join guilds and get ports from guildies too, it happens all the time in fact.

What's your highest level? Do you have a 60? If not, when you get to 60, do some farming for yourself, record the time invested (counting travel time, EC selling time, transfer time, etc) and how much plat you farmed. I bet you'd be quite surprised at how long it actually takes to farm plat, even as a 60.

To say a twink can't use an item as much as a non-twink is just wrong. A twink doesn't roll on an item just to put it in his bank and look at.

What happens in a group with "Johnny-needs-it-the-most", 2 twinks, and 3 average geared players? Everyone rolls on an item that drops. It's a fair roll, everyone gets the same shot at it. The item goes to average geared player. It's good for 150p. That's enough to put a dent in average player's next planned upgrade purchase. Do you fault him for looting it over "Johnny-needs-it-the-most"? How is this outcome any different for Johnny than if twink got it, or anyone not Johnny got it or if the item never dropped at all? Johnny has not lost anything.

For me personally, I pass on everything when I'm leveling a twink, but I'm not going to fault someone for rolling on something they had an equal hand in getting to drop because it'd give them more time to play the character they want to play and less time farming. And you can say all you want about how that 150 plat may only represent 10-15 minutes of farming as a level 60 (in truth it's probably more time), but it adds up to a hell of a lot of time if you're passing up on all loot because of someone else's moral code.

[Ravager]

10pp for a tip lol you aint gettin sow
I generally tip with a Ruby and half the time I still don't get a sow.

[Gumbo]

I still say this forum needs a popcorn emoticon... :D

[Tupakk]

Being nice is its own reward. They teach you this in elementary school.

Be Nice !!!

Number 1 Rule!!

[Alluura]

Sorry for popping into an old thread, just wanted to share my 2 cents.

I'm happy to receive anything at all. I'm still a new player (34 Druid is my highest), so I don't venture out too far from the spires unless I'm deliberately leveling. If you can get to me at the spire, I'll port you anywhere I'm able and not ask for anything in return. Back in the day, I never asked for tips and still received enough to get me by.

This way, if you're a lowbie or in a bind or don't have plat - it's no problem. If you're more situated, you can set your own price for what you feel is fair. I just enjoy the social interaction and feeling that I'm helping people out. However, if you see me struggling with my mana - Clarity is a great tip. ;D

If you see Tsagora hanging around a spire, hail me. :)

[Matthalas Winterheart]

You are what is wrong with EQ

Not at all.. As a Druid, the folks that tip well. Tip exactly that. Well

There are just as many 50+ players out there that dont tip a damn thing. If I'm taking you from OT to Anywhere on Velious, Im saving your ass a ton of time. If I see you fully geared, not a CR. And You throw me zero? You're never getting a port again. Thats just plain Dick move right there..

[Jimjam]

Not at all.. As a Druid, the folks that tip well. Tip exactly that. Well

There are just as many 50+ players out there that dont tip a damn thing. If I'm taking you from OT to Anywhere on Velious, Im saving your ass a ton of time. If I see you fully geared, not a CR. And You throw me zero? You're never getting a port again. Thats just plain Dick move right there..

But I needz dat telly pord, I wanna kill dwaguns naow!

[Karthil]

My experience is that porters are always more than happy to port people no matter what they pay (don't forget most, if not all, do CRs and newbie ports for free). But if you're around lvl 30ish or higher and you're not tipping 1p per level up to 50p, you're being cheap.

You can argue about whether or not the porter should be doing something for others out of the kindness of their hearts, but don't forget that the same argument can be used against you (i.e. you should be generously tipping them out of the kindness of YOUR heart--particularly if you can easily afford it). In the end, you're choosing to be cheap and then arguing that they should be porting as some sort of service to the community.

I'm all for a strong, friendly, and cooperative community, but that goes both ways. Expecting someone to play the game a certain way for your benefit and not valuing that service enough to want them to benefit at the same time is cheap.

[RDawg816]

If people want free ports, there are 2 options. Make friends with enough porting classes or convince the server to consider druids/wizards charity cases and promise them all the appropriate clickies, spells, and epics. Barring that, consider them a Taxi/Uber and donate to their cause as they've donated their time/mana/etc. to help yours.

[ko37qtl]

I've been porting more lately than I have for a while. I've been playing my druid more and on at later hours. I realize that's still a small sample size but it confirms what I've suspected: 1pp/level is not widely adopted.

10pp is fine if I have the time for any non-dangerous port. I've been paid more and I've been paid less (or nothing), sometimes by well geared characters. I'm not griping. If it was important, I'd have set up the payment up-front. It just seems a little silly to maintain that this is a standard when probably most of the players on the server haven't ever heard of the concept.

[Skinned]

30-40 plat seems a bit steep.

I usually give 10p and I think thats MORE than enough.

It's not. Lol.

[meadtj]

30-40 plat seems a bit steep.

I usually give 10p and I think thats MORE than enough.

You are on more than one ignore list, and this will likely make it hard to find ports in the future assuming you aren't < lvl 30

[meadtj]

If your in a top end raiding guild and tip less 50pp you are asking to be put on an ignore list and have an extremely hard time ever getting port. If your a new player and mention it or on a corpse run, and mention it its likely you'll get free ports or maybe even free gear. I gave a new guy 500pp worth of gear recently that I found out was a new player. Covered all of his cloth/empty slots. Most people in EQ are fairly generous but hate scrooges.

[Thanakos]

Do you porters consider 6 peridots as an appropriate tip from a level 60 character?

[Jimjam]

Do you porters consider 6 peridots as an appropriate tip from a level 60 character?

Some will complain about it.

For those that are sarky after a decent cash value tip I like to carry a few pearl necklaces on me to 'boost' my donation.

[deathusurper]

People don't realize you aren't paying for mana. You are paying for the time saved from you not having to run through zones and hoping you don't have to wait on a boat to arrive.

[Munkh]

I so totally love how almost all these replies always seem to get off topic. It's a riot to read through them while at work.

[Lojik]

If you have to ask, you can't afford it

[nectarprime]

If you have to ask, you can't afford it

Yes, no new players allowed, only people that already know the unwritten rules


(I so hope you were being sarcastic)

[GinnasP99]

When I'm getting ported on any of my lvl 50+ characters I always try to tip 100pp. Usually these ports are to get to A) A raid, where i have a chance to get some loot or whatever or B) a farming spot where I'm going to make that 100p back in like 10 minutes.

Personally i feel if you have more than 10k in the bank and can't shell out 100p to a dial a port you're cheap.

[tiadashi]

With all the varied replies it seems best for everyone to just be straight forward - you want a port ask if what youre paying is acceptable - offering ports, be up front about your minimum - in either case if youre not up front about what you expect prepare your expectations to not be met

[nectarprime]

People regularly pay 200 p on Red for a port - they /ooc "200p for a port PST."

yeah when there are only 3 druids online you have to create incentive

[meadtj]

People don't realize you aren't paying for mana. You are paying for the time saved from you not having to run through zones and hoping you don't have to wait on a boat to arrive.

Your also paying for someone else's time. By paying them to port you are economically incentivizing them to immediately stop playing the game and do something for you. Without that economical stimuli it will be significantly harder to find ports. Many people love that its so easy to get a port on this server and its likely if you are cheap you are making hard on the rest of us to find people to port. If everyone that was 60 paid a 60pp minimum you would never have trouble finding a port ever...being cheap screws everyone over. That port you think your saving money on will actually cost you a lot of time to search for ports in the future.

[deathusurper]

Your also paying for someone else's time. By paying them to port you are economically incentivizing them to immediately stop playing the game and do something for you. Without that economical stimuli it will be significantly harder to find ports. Many people love that its so easy to get a port on this server and its likely if you are cheap you are making hard on the rest of us to find people to port. If everyone that was 60 paid a 60pp minimum you would never have trouble finding a port ever...being cheap screws everyone over. That port you think your saving money on will actually cost you a lot of time to search for ports in the future.

I don't know what you mean by this. I am all for paying/tipping someone decent who saves me the hassle of running through zones/waiting on a boat. I main a 59 Rogue and running to an experience camp on foot blows dog dick for quarters. I will gladly reimburse the person who made my run time pretty much non-existant. Not for the mana that the porter used, but for the TIME that the port saved me.

[Gumbo]

People regularly pay 200 p on Red for a port - they /ooc "200p for a port PST."

Yea and afterwards, the druid gets attacked, killed and loses the 200 platinum they just made... :eek::D

[meadtj]

I don't know what you mean by this. I am all for paying/tipping someone decent who saves me the hassle of running through zones/waiting on a boat. I main a 59 Rogue and running to an experience camp on foot blows dog dick for quarters. I will gladly reimburse the person who made my run time pretty much non-existant. Not for the mana that the porter used, but for the TIME that the port saved me.


Its not a disagreement. I was just adding to the reason why people should tip that you gave. Which was very good.

[Nagoya]

my highest level character (nagoya) is a druid level 53, when i can't port i say "i can't port atm sorry", when i do port i don't really expect "tips" i mean, we all know how it is, we're just chillin' behind a screen enjoying social EQ slowly waiting for our IRL death. it's just some mana man. i think some people will give me 10, 20, 50pp or whatever they can just cause they genuinely appreciate the help, and that's cool and all, but in all reality relax and enjoy the ride /o/

if u need a skin like nature, a chloro, a DS, a sow, a levitate, enduring breath or like, a endure poison or something, get it out of your chest it's cool too. that 1pp/level is bonkerz, sometimes it's quite hard for a level 30 to pay 30pp for a port when all they've been doin' is grinding xp for a week. give them a break. if u're porting them in the first place it's cause u have the time and mana to do it. 30pp is killing one ice giant in everfrost and selling the FS and gem it drops.

on my other characters (mostly level 15-35) i ask ports every now and then, and depending on the toon i'm playing, i'll give 10-20pp if i'm a twink, if i'm playing a naked toon cause i have a few that i just like to play natural style, i give what i can, and sometimes it's not a lot, and that's life. i've been the other side of the trade, i know the satisfaction of just helping someone out as a teleporter, just be nice, say thank you and be genuine and everybody's gonna have a good time and chill <3

[deathusurper]

Ah, my bad, meadtj.

Nagoya: My post was directed towards people who can afford to offer a decent tip. Doesn't really apply to newer players. I'm like you with my Druid, buffs at EC tunnel are free. And if I have the time, so are ports. If I don't have the time to port, I go /anonymous.

[deathusurper]

I tried to edit my post, but it wouldn't let me.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that's only because I no longer use him to make coin from ports now that my Rogue is geared and can win Sebilis drops. (I only made the Druid to fund a Rogue main.)

[mrhal2k]

Regardless of the amount - I've had people think I scored a free ride because I make use of /split to pay if we're the only two people in the group. Sometimes they don't notice this text or have it filtered somehow. Occasionally, I'll get a tell like "really?" and will point out the /split text - but if they're the passive type that just puts me on ignore - you can see where this would be a problem.

Where's the thread on Rez protocol? I get tells asking what my "going rate" is. I must have missed that memo...

[Vexenu]

For genuine low level, untwinked new players, any amount of plat is acceptable. And I will usually decline an offer of plat anyway. I think a lot of porters are the same in that regard.

For established 50+ players, there's really no excuse to be cheap. And it's amazing how many people running around in hundreds of thousands of plat worth of gear will tip you 10 or 15pp for a port. It's insulting. I would grade port tips roughly as follows:

100pp+ - Very generous
75pp - Generous
50pp - Good
40pp - Acceptable
30pp - Low
20pp - Cheap
15pp or less - Insulting

1pp per level is an easy rule of thumb, although if you're playing an obviously twinked to hell character don't abuse it by tipping 20-30pp. This goes for all you twink Monks, too. Don't give me that shit about a weight limit. Go buy some fucking gems you cheapskates. What Would Master Wu do? He'd pay his way with gems. And if he had no gems he'd forgo the port and just run, in order to build his stamina and character while concentrating on tranquility. But you don't see that these days. Instead you get a level 20 Iksar Monk with a Fungi, CoF and T-Staff tipping you 10pp for a port and saying "Lol sorry no cash on me". Don't be that guy.

[Froakula]

1pp per level seems right to me, some people are just cheap and should be blacklisted by dap to discourage that behavior imo

[Nagoya]

lol, so many frustrated porters xD
don't listen to these punks - ports are only time and mana, which is also time, and if you have time to be playin' EQ you have a lot of time. plus you never have to port, you can always say no, so when you say yes man just do it because you want, it's a not a job jeez...
fungi t-staff cof iksar monk if u want a free port send me a tell lol, anytime /o/
just cause we're mature adults and we like stats, let me put my version of vexenu's chart here!

very generous: 100pp+
generous: 40-99pp
good: 5-39pp
acceptable: free
low: 1-4pp (like, keep it for spells man if that's what you can give ^^)
cheap: gold, silver or copper (if u need banking service i'll do it but like, ask first or something :p)
insulting: telling me insults, like "fuck you faggot" or something like that. this is insulting.

find the right druid/wizard for you!

[Lhancelot]

I think a good rule of thumb is 1pp per your characters level. Of course if you want to be generous you can tip more.

[deathusurper]

lol, no. It's taken me going on 3 years to get my Rogue to 59. I don't play P99 because I have time. What gives you the idea that people play P99 because the have time? x-p

[mgriff02]

For me:

40-50pp : I'm happy
20-40pp : I'm content
10pp or less : I reject automatically. If they're that poor I don't want their money.

And if I get the sense that they're a newbie then I reject whatever they offer also.

[Nagoya]

lol, no. It's taken me going on 3 years to get my Rogue to 59. I don't play P99 because I have time. What gives you the idea that people play P99 because the have time? x-p

then you can always say "i can't port atm sorry"
the sorry is even optional.
that's the beauty of it. you can never ever be forced to port anyone. it is always something you consciously decide to use your time for. if you think that this is a job and a service that needs to be paid for, you have a gaming problem and you should see a professional :p

mgriff02, if i ever get a port from you i'll give you 15pp, the suprise of your reaction will be so exciting to watch! much suspense! adventures!

[mgriff02]

mgriff02, if i ever get a port from you i'll give you 15pp, the suprise of your reaction will be so exciting to watch! much suspense! adventures!I never let my disappointment show. I just let it secretly eat away at my soul.

[Gumbo]

Instead you get a level 20 Iksar Monk with a Fungi, CoF and T-Staff tipping you 10pp for a port and saying "Lol sorry no cash on me". Don't be that guy.

They only pay 10pp and say they have no cash on them because they spent all of their cash on the Fungi, CoF and T-Staff...

[Lojik]

100p port appraisal fee.

[deathusurper]

LMAO. Someone disagrees with you and you tell them they need help and should seek professional assistance? ROFLMAO. Nice logic there, Cotton. I am finished with arguing with a fool, as well as us derailing Weaselblighter's forum topic with your childish responses to me. I went to your profile to look for an ignore button, but didn't see one. Using the /ignore Nagoya in-game will do.

[Nagoya]

finished arguing whaat? when did we ever start lol.
i was not even answering to you xD we're talking about ports and you're talking about your level 59 rogue or something and i'm the one derailling the thread ^^
ignore nagoya in-game your heart out boy! the only thing she ever does is port, buff people or ghetto PL a big whopping one hour a week max so i'm not sure what you will achieve but go for it aim for the stars :p