Unrest is terrible

[Auuken]

A lot of people said Unrest is the best. Spent the last day there at level 19 and the groups are always full. Even with the ZEM I feel like Mistmoore or even EK gnolls is much faster, consistent exp. Maybe if you can always find a group it's ok, but it's such a gamble to run out there and find nothing but groups with a waitlist.

/rant

Anyone else have this experience?

Heading to Mistmoore Castle I guess, or maybe Upper Guk for solo and group options..

[Ravager]

Upper Guk is better for finding open camps. Has great ZEM too, but you may have to recruit your own group.

Unrest has always been garbage on this server, unless you make a basement group.

[EQBallzz]

Unrest is great but it's hit or miss whether you can get in a group. Trick is to get there early and be part of the forming of initial groups. Can't really expect to show up during prime time in a relatively small zone with a huge ZEM and just get into a group immediately. MM has more camps but if you think you can stroll into MM and always find a group there..you might be disappointed again. Especially at your level..Pond group is almost always full. MM is probably more crowded than Unrest on average. Upper Guk or HPH or Runnyeye are probably better if you can find a few others to go with.

[Auuken]

Upper Guk or HPH or Runnyeye are probably better if you can find a few others to go with.

That's what im leaning towards, could solo with level 20 fire pet and chain summoning there?

Haven't seen the zone layout yet

[rollin5k]

Here is the secret to success in EverQuest

Lower your expectations and increase your play time

[mickmoranis]

dude at 19 go to mistmoore thats way better. the weaker species levels in unrest.. they think that its the best but they just dont know whats good for em.

10-19 sure youll do fine in unrest, its great, but so is crushbone and its more accessable so eh

[necro316]

lol, says unrest is too crowded, so he goes to mistmoore


lol

[mickmoranis]

To be fair, crowds at unrest mean a bunch of autistic kids trying to level up their characters with FTE on mostly green shit. Crowds at mm mean a list and organized groups located at static spawns with accurate estimates about when an opening will open and or what classes they will need in the future.

So yea, MM is gon b bettur

[Ravager]

But not as good as Upper Guk. Better loot and exp bonus at that level too.

[mickmoranis]

yea upper guk is ok at 19 if u kno what your doing, still going to kill many greens tho.

at least MM is all blue all the time based on which spot you set up at only.

[Ravager]

But there's like 12 mobs in mm at that level on 22 minute timers.

[mickmoranis]

at 19? you will be at the pond which pulls all the way to the GY so no its more like

1111111111111111111111

I just counted 22 mobs to pull to the pond.

Mobs that are green to the GY crew... The GY pulls the GY and canyon(that the CE doesnt pull) I counted 22 mobs there just now in my head... so were looking at 1 min per kill still which is, pretty good if ur talking totally over crowded server... if its not overcrowded ur going to be looking at more than you could handle pulling.

then the CE is fucking as much as you want to pull from the castle

[Swish]

But there's like 12 mobs in mm at that level on 22 minute timers.

lol so wrong

[Mistle]

L19 is the second worst level in the game. Too low for HHK or Sol A, MM will pass you over for more useful higher levels, Unrest yard trash has greened out and first floor is terribad exp, Kurns has greened out unless you go deep, most the viable outdoor zones have shit ZEM (Kunark) or terrible mob density (old world). Best experience unless you are in a bring your own group situation is probably OT on the low level side. Upper Guk if you are.

[Swish]

If people didn't know Lake of Ill Omen had a slightly lower than average ZEM I bet more people would group there....despite 10+ people some nights waiting for a group in MM or wherever.

The lowest ZEM is still quicker to XP in than sitting at a zone line of a high one for ages.

[turbosilk]

A lot of people said Unrest is the best. Spent the last day there at level 19 and the groups are always full. Even with the ZEM I feel like Mistmoore or even EK gnolls is much faster, consistent exp. Maybe if you can always find a group it's ok, but it's such a gamble to run out there and find nothing but groups with a waitlist.

/rant

Anyone else have this experience?

Heading to Mistmoore Castle I guess, or maybe Upper Guk for solo and group options..

It's not all about exp/min and there are equivalent zones with better drops. I prefer uguk at that level.

[Expediency]

At 19 go to orc highway in oasis. Mobs all day

[Speedi]

The lowest ZEM is still quicker to XP in than sitting at a zone line of a high one for ages.

Truth

[Twochain]

Unrest is kind of buggy, there are a lot of insane trains that happen there. However it was some of the best solo exp i ever got in the basement... and as a level 13 in the courtyard.

[Achromatic]

Here is the secret to success in EverQuest

Lower your expectations and increase your play time

This is like the best post on these forums.

[Ravager]

at 19? you will be at the pond which pulls all the way to the GY so no its more like

1111111111111111111111

I just counted 22 mobs to pull to the pond.

Mobs that are green to the GY crew... The GY pulls the GY and canyon(that the CE doesnt pull) I counted 22 mobs there just now in my head... so were looking at 1 min per kill still which is, pretty good if ur talking totally over crowded server... if its not overcrowded ur going to be looking at more than you could handle pulling.

then the CE is fucking as much as you want to pull from the castle

Just my rotten luck then that every time I was ever part of a pond group, there was another group claiming the canyon.

[stonez138]

People on this server are sheep. In a few levels they're all going to tell you CoM is the best! They are wrong about that too.

[StinkyGreenBud]

Start a group yourself and go check out less popular zones/dungeons. So much more satisfying. I don't think I have been to Unrest in years and still sounds like a mad house.

[blondeattk]

i dont like how hags open up with dispel on p99 thats not classic. they always nuked first on live, then varied their spells after.

makes it really bad for pulling on this server. happens in CC as well

[Zarcath]

Signed on to my level 17 this morning, had just dinged the night before so i was pretty fresh into 17. I got maybe half a yellow in Unrest in 2 hours because of
lack of mobs
basement/tower trains flushing us out of our spot
2 deaths (see above)

I count myself lucky I didn't lose progress. I said good bye to Unrest and tried Kurns. End of today, I'm level 20 now. Wasn't even constantly playing all day. Was getting 1/3rd to 1/2 a blue per kill.

Kurns is vastly superior to Unrest. I imagine Unrest basement is fine but everything upstairs is a shit show.

[Tuurin]

Getting to Kurns is actually easier and/or safer than getting to Unrest, as long as you're on good terms with DAP or some other Druid who can evac EJ. Just don't stiff them for 13p ;-)

[Lhancelot]

I tried Unrest so many times and always found it slow. Group or solo, it never impressed me.

I honestly believe these supposed ZEM ratings are inaccurate. I found SK aviaks around KFC to be tons better xp than Unrest.

[jackd104]

Let's pause for a moment and be grateful that there are enough people playing this game we all love for such frustrations to materialize.

[Expediency]

Let's pause for a moment and be grateful that there are enough people playing this game we all love for such frustrations to materialize.

Truth.

Why is this place so popular? I have never been on p99 because it is far from a bind spot and hard to get to. lots of other options for that level range and everyone says its crowded.

[Lhancelot]

Truth.

Why is this place so popular? I have never been on p99 because it is far from a bind spot and hard to get to. lots of other options for that level range and everyone says its crowded.

I always have tried UR off and on to try to see if I can find a change in my experience, and I find it the same everytime.

Slow XP, trains, douchebag players who train purposefully, deaths that require a long CR if you do not bind nearby or cannot bind nearby, etc.

Just not worth the hassle and I always found the XP underwhelming too.

Like Exped says, there are just so many other options that are better at those levels.

[Tuurin]

I always have tried UR off and on to try to see if I can find a change in my experience, and I find it the same everytime.

Slow XP, trains, douchebag players who train purposefully, deaths that require a long CR if you do not bind nearby or cannot bind nearby, etc.

Just not worth the hassle and I always found the XP underwhelming too.

Like Exped says, there are just so many other options that are better at those levels.

Replace UR with KC and it's still entirely accurate.

[mickmoranis]

Kc is a great place to go if you are having a little bit of trouble xping in Unrest for sure.

[Jimjam]

Yeah, KC is badass on Red. Been banging out the levels rolling on T staves.

Pull sathir prep room, Knights of Sathir. WTB runed blade!

[Lune]

The folklore about Unrest came about in a time when the server was far less populated than it currently is, on the order of 500-700 primetime (before 2013), and it never adjusted to the extent that overcrowdedness trashes the XP.

It's the same way with Kurns. The badgers outside in the pit are far better exp than Kurn's lobby because you get infinite pulls, vs. fighting over a few dozen skeletons with groups of twinks.

[turbosilk]

Imo the primary issue with unrest is there is only about 1 spots to camp per group level; up to 20ish outside, MR is ~20-25, FP is ~25-30, basement is 30+. Whereas there are many more places to camp at similar levels in places like unrest and sola.