reroll 39 DE Necro

[Jitsumo]

Should I reroll my 39 DE necro for Iksar? I love the necro class and probably have the most fun playing it. I do get lonely soloing all the time, but I mix it up with group based alts. I just keep wondering if I should reroll iksar or if I have sunk enough time into this char to not do it. I have never had a char over level 50 and chose the DE partly due to 20% less xp to get to 60. I figured that was a huge chunk in the long run, but am starting to see how lich hurts at 34 with COB and know its only going to get worse with the next lich spells. All these damn form posts about master race, ect has made me rethink my DE choice. Do you see what you all have done? Are you happy??

I don't mind most of the releveling process, but 1-10 just sucks balls and going 24-29 was rough with the old weak spells. What even shall i do!?

[GinnasP99]

Should I reroll my 39 DE necro for Iksar?

No

[jolanar]

Nah. Not worth it unless you also don't like the way dark elves look. In which case I'd tell you just to get some therapy instead of rerolling.

[Troxx]

Iksar does have an undeniable advantage and lich will only get worse as you level. IF you were to reroll, do it sooner rather than later. Remember that it takes as much time to go 50-60 as it did for 1-50, so it's not too late if the lack of regen is going to bother you.

But also consider that starting at 39 you could get that dark elf to 60 long before getting to a much lower level on the Iksar. 20% less xp on the Iksar - but at 60 and when done xping ... that regen is quite nice

Necromancers can be very successful at any race.

[Lhancelot]

Just remember, male iksar run like they got sticks up their butts. DE wins fashionquest, and run with a normal gait. DE > Iksar.

[Jitsumo]

I love all of you -- Sexy DE it is

[Ravager]

Just depends if you like Iksars or not. This game is actually more fun if you play with a handicap.

[Tann]

Iksar does have an undeniable advantage and lich will only get worse as you level.

with the leech dots this always seems like a moo point

http://i.imgur.com/fwFl8eq.gif

I get that you'll regen more and have to use the leech dots less, but you also get less exp so it kinda balances itself out.

[bum3]

Duel a 39 Iksar Necro with the same gear. If he destroys you 2 out of 3 times then reroll. I'm betting he won't. I did this as 54 DE necro on live in velious era. Their race didn't make a difference when they were running back to loot their corpses.

[teai]

I know people who rerolled lvl 60 necros to make 60 iksars once they got to the top and had to deal with the banter

[Amyas]

I wish my level 55 Troll shaman was a Barb =(

[Jimjam]

Would you enjoy rerolling? If so why not reroll anyway for fun?

Likewise would you not have fun keep playing as a dark elf? That seems like a good reason to stop playing it.

If I particularly like a class I'll often reroll it just to play through again in different content at different levels. The most important thing is to enjoy what you are doing!

[NegaStoat]

Only level 39? Do it.

It would take you at most, 2-3 weeks of concentrated level route hunting to get back to that point? And then you get to keep Regen forever. At 49 and Lich you are going to want that regen. Trust me.

[Morningbreath]

Ugh I can't imagine doing the post-50 hell levels with a racial penalty. The incessant pulling and finger-waggling of the necro solo game would drive me to drink more than I already do.

If it was like quading where you can go on a Caribbean cruise in between pulls...maybe.

[Priceline]

the earlier levels where you cant out damage the pet is terrible as well, I'm not sure if its additive or multiplicative penalties but it's terrible.

20% racial on top of 50% eaten by pet... if its multi (like hybrid and race used to be) that's a 80% penalty

[Izmael]

Level this guy to like 50 and perma camp him at Xalgoz or some other similar camp. Roll Iksar necro as your main.

[Munkh]

I myself have both a Barb Shamm and an Erudite Necro. I have ran an Ikky but only as a monk. Personally I enjoy the choices I've made and I would not like to run an Ikky Necro due to all the negative that you incur to me outweighs the positive of the regen.

[Xap]

You gotta log in to look at a stick-in-the-ass lizard. Do a /who all field next time you log in, there are so many iksar necros floating around, its such a boring unoriginal choice.

You can still kill anything you would normally, just with an iksar you have to kill 20% more things, with 20% more efficiency. I played a Troll shaman to 55, and then Ogre to 45 before re-rerolling back to the Troll, and I totally regret the waste of time. I re-rerolled back because you'll soon learn that aesthetics/preference>>>>>>>>having regen. If troll had no regen, crappy stats, and no slam I would still play a troll, they are so stupidly beautiful looking.

This realization took leveling an ogre to 45 to figure out.

Also the iksar sit animation has gotta be one of the worst, so goddamn ugly.

[Crawdad]

Fashionquest for Necros doesn't make much sense to me. You're going to be a skeleton 90% of the time, who cares?

Iksar starts being obviously better than other races at 39/lich. Lifedrain DoT will let you play catch-up, but its not as mana efficient as other spells.

That said, I played an Erudite necro on live to 65 and was only jealous once I had a zlandi heart/saw the majesty of natural regen. And even then I still loved the character. Don't reroll and just keep on keepin on, imo.

[Crevex]

rerolled my lvl 55 DE necro. Best decision ive ever made. I say reroll.

[Sage Truthbearer]

The correct answer to these questions is to play the race you think looks the coolest. I would never invest time into a character just for a racial ability if I didn't think my guy looked ballin, especially on a PvE server.

[Skinned]

Level this guy to like 50 and perma camp him at Xalgoz or some other similar camp. Roll Iksar necro as your main.

A+ advice here.

[Lhancelot]

You gotta log in to look at a stick-in-the-ass lizard. Do a /who all field next time you log in, there are so many iksar necros floating around, its such a boring unoriginal choice.

You can still kill anything you would normally, just with an iksar you have to kill 20% more things, with 20% more efficiency. I played a Troll shaman to 55, and then Ogre to 45 before re-rerolling back to the Troll, and I totally regret the waste of time. I re-rerolled back because you'll soon learn that aesthetics/preference>>>>>>>>having regen. If troll had no regen, crappy stats, and no slam I would still play a troll, they are so stupidly beautiful looking.

This realization took leveling an ogre to 45 to figure out.

Also the iksar sit animation has gotta be one of the worst, so goddamn ugly.


This is so true. When the race resonates with you and you enjoy playing it because how it moves, looks, sounds, etc., you will go much further than you would otherwise.

UNLESS! you are someone that values min/max over ALL. A min/max player cares nothing about aesthetics, nothing about art, nothing about personality - for them it's all about numbers and being better because of numbers.

I am not saying that's wrong or bad, there simply are different personality types and knowing what type you are will help you make the right decision.

[nyclin]

if you're considering rerolling now, just do it

if you don't, you'll always have the niggling thought in the back of your mind that iksar could be better - and it is, objectively

[KyotaP99]

Should I reroll my 39 DE necro for Gnome?

yes

[KyotaP99]

Fashionquest for Necros doesn't make much sense to me. You're going to be a skeleton 90% of the time, who cares?


this is the logical reason why picking Iksar isn't that detrimental to fashionquest, except for when you are AFKing in the tunnel.

[Panicsferd]

On live I never was an iksar, so I decided to become a lizard when I first joined P99, and I figured what better class to be then Necromancer to get that regen.

I guess for me the xp penalty isn't that much a deterrent, but I am starting to feel it now after 40 and suffering my third hell level where it seems to take longer then other people that I grouped with around the same level who are not iksars.

I think like maybe what others have said, unless you are in the min-maxing and then it would be more advised to be iksar... but like me I came more so to be an iksar since I never was one on live and wasn't a necro either.

So I figured I would kill two birds with one stone... be an iksar and then be a necro as well and when I get max level I will relish in the great regen that iksars get.

[Bristlebaner]

I re-rolled my 45 dark elf for an iksar. It's night and day. Now that I'm 55 and the next level of regen kicked in, it's almost unfair.

[Panicsferd]

I re-rolled my 45 dark elf for an iksar. It's night and day. Now that I'm 55 and the next level of regen kicked in, it's almost unfair.

I'm only 40, so I guess I still have 15 more lvls to go, but when is my next level of regen? 50?

[Ahldagor]

Halfling necro

[gaph3r]

I recently went through the same thought process on my Dark Elf Necromancer. Iksar re-roll prevailed. Iksar just hit 34 and I picked up Call of Bones. The difference is quite noticeable. I can only imagine what it will be like with Lich and beyond.

I played a Dark Elf on Live for years...and loved him, but after doing my research here, I don't for a minute regret my decision. I will agree that 30 left a bit longer on the Iksar than the Dark Elf. But other levels not so much.

[Swish]

I have a lot more respect if I see a DE/erudite/human necro at 60 with his epic... props to those guys who don't min/max and can go on to do big things <3

I have a sad iksar necro, I was average at it :p

[GinnasP99]

I have a lot more respect if I see a DE/erudite/human necro at 60 with his epic

How you like my style now, Swish

http://i.imgur.com/fCwvtzj.jpg

[PoptartOnRye]

I'm only 40, so I guess I still have 15 more lvls to go, but when is my next level of regen? 50?

You get an extra +2 at 50, then +4 at 51. The difference between level 49 and 51 is 6, double the regen you had at 49. +4 again at 55, and then +2 at 60.

6 hp/tick at 49, 18 at 60. Pretty big. Other races at 60 are sitting for 7. They could get a Zlandicar's Heart for umpteen^10 plat at level 51 and they'd still be 2 hp/tick behind a naked Iksar, and then continue to fall off scale with more levels.

[Jimjam]

Level this guy to like 50 and perma camp him at Xalgoz or some other similar camp. Roll Iksar necro as your main.

I like this suggestion. You obviously enjoyed your necromancer to level him up to where he is. I think rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water you need to find something you could enjoy with the existing necromancer, even if you do decide to level up a new one too.

[Troxx]

http://wiki.project1999.com/File:Troll_Iksar_Regen.png

http://wiki.project1999.com/File:Normal_Regen.png

Racial regen really takes off at 51/56/60

You guys have the levels wrong

[dude]

I could never re-roll my DE necro he is the oldest char I have sadly he isnt the highest. If your looking to fast track a necro to 60 maybe you should roll a druid or a bard instead. Something that can Aoe.

on a side note can we please end the penalty for not fearing or rooting?
Dude gets sad when he cant play his necro going on what 5 years now?

[Evia]

I am not a min /Maxer, but the exception is with necromancer race. Iksar regeneration is crazy helpful for necro that I can't pass up ikky.

[Foggon]

I played an erudite to 20, then rerolled to iksar. I think it's worth it. A level 60 iksar w/ demi-lich sitting gets 1hp per tick. I can only imagine non-iksar regen losing somewhere like 20hp per tick.

I would re-roll. Just solo in lake of illomen 20-30, then 30-40 play in Lguk, 40-50 kaesora(so much fun). All charm fighting. Then howling stones at 51