Currently in OT, how many braids would me a iksar necro require?

[Panicsferd]

I am asking this here, since I tried googling and couldn't really find anything... but I remember maybe either here or the wiki I read somewhere that being a necro iksar would mean I would need less since I'm evil.

I am currently lvl 40 and am leveling in OT and figure that while I'm here and killing berserkers I might as well save the braids to turn them in when my inv or weight has reached its limit.

I am asking here how many braids do you think I will need to go from kos to amiably to then maybe do the OT hammer quest - to get it early instead of having to wait till 60 to charm it?

[Izmael]

You can charm him at like 51-52, can just take a few tries, get someone to snare him and charm until it sticks.

As a necro you will most likely hunt in HS and ruin your OT faction anyway, so I wouldn't work too hard to build it.

[Panicsferd]

You can charm him at like 51-52, can just take a few tries, get someone to snare him and charm until it sticks.

As a necro you will most likely hunt in HS and ruin your OT faction anyway, so I wouldn't work too hard to build it.

So I can actually charm him at 51-52, I thought maybe I had to be 60 to charm it myself... since I think isnt there a lvl lock to like 51 mobs for the undead charm spell and the guy is 55?

Anyways if I do take the charm route, I may still turn in the braids since it is decent xp. I managed to turn in 2 so far and gotten like 2-3% per turn in, and this is a hell lvl.

edit: also I'm not strickly farming for them either, if I see a berserker while im say killing the other mobs there then I'll attack it - so for me it is more of a bonus then anything.

[MiRo2]

Foreman isn't 55, I charmed him in the high 40s with the level 39 charm song as a bard (max level 51).

[Mortiis]

So I can actually charm him at 51-52, I thought maybe I had to be 60 to charm it myself... since I think isnt there a lvl lock to like 51 mobs for the undead charm spell and the guy is 55?

Anyways if I do take the charm route, I may still turn in the braids since it is decent xp. I managed to turn in 2 so far and gotten like 2-3% per turn in, and this is a hell lvl.

edit: also I'm not strickly farming for them either, if I see a berserker while im say killing the other mobs there then I'll attack it - so for me it is more of a bonus then anything.

Exactly, extra XP for turn ins.

[Panicsferd]

Foreman isn't 55, I charmed him in the high 40s with the level 39 charm song as a bard (max level 51).
That is good to know, I guess I thought maybe he was 55, but maybe I got confused with the braid guy? and I remember hearing from some other people that they said you had to wait till higher level to charm him.

edit: maybe that could be why ppl wanted to say do it a higher lvls so you get less resists?

Exactly, extra XP for turn ins.
This exactly, like I was saying in my last post. I'm not strickly going for the braids but it is a decent bonus for when I kill some so then I get the bonus xp when I turn them in to the skeleton captain.

and this will help me get out of this hell lvl I guess.

[mefdinkins]

no clue as to # of braids

I would see if an ench can help you root and tash him stand very close then charm turn in jade and run away.

really any root class is enough for you to do it at 50/51 it's just riskier the lower you are and if they don't have a resist debuff

[Tupakk]

weve played together a few times if we end up getting together I can hop on my bard and snare slow and OOS and you should be able to stick whatever charm you got.

[fastboy21]

Charm will work on necro. You can't proc the hammer until lvl 50 anyways...its super easy to do alone by that level. just charm, hand in, FD.

[JonyeGway]

As a 54 chanter I had charm resist on the foreman twice before it landed. Just use jboots/sow pots and kite him around in the field til it lands.

[Panicsferd]

weve played together a few times if we end up getting together I can hop on my bard and snare slow and OOS and you should be able to stick whatever charm you got.

That sounds good, but I know you can't proc it, but it would be nice to at least get the hammer early so then once I ding 50 I can use it.

I think what I will probably end up doing try something like that if I can get help from someone else and then for now just turn in the braids that I have for just bonus xp while I am leveling here.

So once again thanks for the replies, I really appreciate it.

[GinnasP99]

How would you turn in war braids as an iksar ?

[Panicsferd]

How would you turn in war braids as an iksar ?

I am not sure how other iksars can manage to pull it off but with being a necro I can become a skeleton when I use my latest lich spell and that skeleton illusion makes me apprehensive to the guards there and so I am able to turn in the braids for xp and faction and I guess you get xp/faction when you are apprehensive.

Maybe some other iksar classes would maybe have to need a druid for share wolf form (if that makes you indif and not kos to the outpost) or maybe with a monk or something you can try to sneak and turn it in, i'm not sure?

I just know I got lucky myself being a necro with skeleton form and with that am able to I guess while in skeleton form go in places I normally can't as a lizard.

[Triiz]

The "New Worker" section of the wiki has a faction chart for number of turn ins for different races/classes/religions. From the start of apprehensive to amiable is 102 turn in's so that is the max you would have to do, depending on where in apprehensive skelly form leaves you it may be more like 80 (guessing). I went the faction route on an alt and it took a lot longer than I expected even starting out at apprehensive.

I would turn the braids in because they're decent extra xp, see where you're at in faction by the time you're doing leveling in OT, and if you're not amiable just follow the advice here and charm him.

[Panicsferd]

The "New Worker" section of the wiki has a faction chart for number of turn ins for different races/classes/religions. From the start of apprehensive to amiable is 102 turn in's so that is the max you would have to do, depending on where in apprehensive skelly form leaves you it may be more like 80 (guessing). I went the faction route on an alt and it took a lot longer than I expected even starting out at apprehensive.

I would turn the braids in because they're decent extra xp, see where you're at in faction by the time you're doing leveling in OT, and if you're not amiable just follow the advice here and charm him.

Yeah I don't remember where I read this or whatnot but I thought there was something that said since I am a necro and am evil (even though being iksar i'm super evil) that it would make getting faction with the evil people a tad easier then a different iksar who isn't an evil class.

And the xp is pretty insane - haven't turned it in yet since left hell level or before my hell level and while I was level 40, I was getting around 2-3% per turn in which I think is pretty decent while in a hell level.

I think I may be in OT for quite some time until the xp starts to dry up and maybe if I'm here till 42, possibly 43 then I should have enough braids again to get xp and work on the faction. I guess for me the faction is really secondary since as a necro I should be able to easily charm undead him for my hammer.

[Pyrion]

My bard charmed him at 50, he was white then. Had some problems (almost died) but got the hammer in the end.

If i would do it again i guess i would snare him first, then charm so that a break wouldnt do much.

[thebutthat]

Charmed him at 50. Lasted long enough for me to turn in and fd.

[Dolalin]

You don't need to charm him if you have faction song, use that if you're apprehensive and it'll bump you to amiable. (for bards in the thread)