Question about Epics

[Retry]

I know you cannot equip epics until 46, but can you get your epic before then? Like just keep it in your inventory?

Or would the quest turn in fail because you are under leveled and you just lose all your turn in items.

[Dreenk317]

I know you cannot equip epics until 46, but can you get your epic before then? Like just keep it in your inventory?

Or would the quest turn in fail because you are under leveled and you just lose all your turn in items.

You can get them at any level, and should be able to use them at any level also. (Cough cough level requirements on epics are NOT CLASSIC cough cough)

[Daldaen]

Turned in my Shaman epic pre-46.

It's really unfortunate them implemented that level requirement on Epics. I did several Epics pre-46 on Live and there isn't really any indication the quests of Kunark were sophisticated enough to check against level was rewarding steps. No other quests in the era do this. Nor is there any comment about some change allowing level 1s to acquire Epics (there is no reason they would ever remove a level requirement retroactively like this).

[Retry]

Ok that is good to know, thanks guys.

[Dreenk317]

Turned in my Shaman epic pre-46.

It's really unfortunate them implemented that level requirement on Epics. I did several Epics pre-46 on Live and there isn't really any indication the quests of Kunark were sophisticated enough to check against level was rewarding steps. No other quests in the era do this. Nor is there any comment about some change allowing level 1s to acquire Epics (there is no reason they would ever remove a level requirement retroactively like this).

They did it because lvl 1's with cleric clickies and rogue epics "trivialized" the content iirc.

[Pokesan]

Turned in my Shaman epic pre-46.

It's really unfortunate them implemented that level requirement on Epics. I did several Epics pre-46 on Live and there isn't really any indication the quests of Kunark were sophisticated enough to check against level was rewarding steps. No other quests in the era do this. Nor is there any comment about some change allowing level 1s to acquire Epics (there is no reason they would ever remove a level requirement retroactively like this).

Telin in BW(ranger epic) gave me a message like "You are not yet experienced enough this is too dangerous for you" on AK. Or is that bad faction?

[xKoopa]

They did it because lvl 1's with cleric clickies and rogue epics "trivialized" the content iirc.

Clerics couldnt click at lvl 1 anyway, was a stat stick

P much all rogue twinks had epic tho, rog and monk were so good to twink with

[deezy]

Turned in my Shaman epic pre-46.

It's really unfortunate them implemented that level requirement on Epics. I did several Epics pre-46 on Live and there isn't really any indication the quests of Kunark were sophisticated enough to check against level was rewarding steps. No other quests in the era do this. Nor is there any comment about some change allowing level 1s to acquire Epics (there is no reason they would ever remove a level requirement retroactively like this).

I'm quite certain it has more to do with mitigating RMT than it is to keep it a classic mechanic.

[Daldaen]

Telin wont talk to you before level 50 (first step is to hail him for a note) but if you give him the items he will reward you with epic. I did my Ranger epic at like level 40 and just kept it in my bag until 46.

This. Not talking and not rewarding are different. Can MQ past all of these steps by having a higher level talk.

[Pokesan]

This. Not talking and not rewarding are different. Can MQ past all of these steps by having a higher level talk.

not to split hairs but doesn't that show intent?

[Daldaen]

not to split hairs but doesn't that show intent?

They also intended people to turn in all the quest pieces themselves rather than two people pairing up and turning in items each.

They eventually worked this stuff out on Live. Epic 1.5s require 65 and 2.0 requires 70 to do any turn ins and to equip the items. They also added hidden flags for all of the turn ins to prevent people from MultiQuesting steps in the quest.

The original EQ developers didn't have many coded rules to enforce their intent. Thus twinks with epic, multiquesting, vendor recharge, monk splitting, CH chains, CoTH chains, etc.

[Pokesan]

They also intended people to turn in all the quest pieces themselves rather than two people pairing up and turning in items each.

They eventually worked this stuff out on Live. Epic 1.5s require 65 and 2.0 requires 70 to do any turn ins and to equip the items. They also added hidden flags for all of the turn ins to prevent people from MultiQuesting steps in the quest.

The original EQ developers didn't have many coded rules to enforce their intent. Thus twinks with epic, multiquesting, vendor recharge, monk splitting, CH chains, CoTH chains, etc.

oh, yeah. they definitely didn't implement it correctly at the time.
my point is that saying P99 epic level req's have zero basis in classic is not especially honest.

[Dreenk317]

oh, yeah. they definitely didn't implement it correctly at the time.
my point is that saying P99 epic level req's have zero basis in classic is not especially honest.

As far as I know, in classic, none of the epics had level requirements. I think that's the basis of his "no basis in classic" argument.

[skarlorn]

i'm so glad they removed epics beneath level 46.

shit was bogus

[Pokesan]

As far as I know, in classic, none of the epics had level requirements. I think that's the basis of his "no basis in classic" argument.

repeating yourself does nothing to remove a high level character being required for the quest

my good dingus