What if Rustle/A/A were wiped off the server?

[Lhancelot]

What if Sirken and Rogean had enough.

What if they decided to wipe clean ALL of Rustle/Aftermath/Awakened accounts, meaning not only were the guilds dsbanded but every toon on these player's accounts were wiped off their character select screen?

As a dirty casual, would you celebrate in glee and begin raiding more creating a new diplomatic scene between yourself and the other new raiders of p99?

As a filthy neckbeard, would you simply recreate a new neckbeard raid guild and fill the new raid scene with toxicity and selfishness as it has been so filled for the past years?

As a member of Rustle and A/A if you found all your toons wiped off the server, would you level up more toons and continue raiding as you do now joining the same guild members as you have right now?

As a member of Rustle or A/A would you create new toons to level up, and create a new guild with different members with the hopes of having a more diplomatic raid scene and avoid inviting some members you secretly have always wanted out of your guild?

I think a guild wipe could be a good thing for the server personally. It would be considered catastrophic to some, I am sure but in the long run I think everyone would view it as a positive.

On a side note, imagine all the available names we could pick from, if these toons were wiped clean along with all the alts that are never played on these ancient accounts!

[kotton05]

as a member of rustle, they would have to wipe the whole server to really get to me and my 100 60's

[Nexii]

What if Sirken and Rogean had enough of your terrible posts and decided to delete your account?

[bigjerry]

What if Sirken and Rogean had enough.

What if they decided to wipe clean ALL of Rustle/Aftermath/Awakened accounts, meaning not only were the guilds dsbanded but every toon on these player's accounts were wiped off their character select screen?

As a dirty casual, would you celebrate in glee and begin raiding more creating a new diplomatic scene between yourself and the other new raiders of p99?

As a filthy neckbeard, would you simply recreate a new neckbeard raid guild and fill the new raid scene with toxicity and selfishness as it has been so filled for the past years?

As a member of Rustle and A/A if you found all your toons wiped off the server, would you level up more toons and continue raiding as you do now joining the same guild members as you have right now?

As a member of Rustle or A/A would you create new toons to level up, and create a new guild with different members with the hopes of having a more diplomatic raid scene and avoid inviting some members you secretly have always wanted out of your guild?

I think a guild wipe could be a good thing for the server personally. It would be considered catastrophic to some, I am sure but in the long run I think everyone would view it as a positive.

On a side note, imagine all the available names we could pick from, if these toons were wiped clean along with all the alts that are never played on these ancient accounts!

didn't read

[relapseover9000]

What if Sirken and Rogean had enough of your terrible posts and decided to delete your account?

[Cecily]

Why do you have Rustle, the good guys, lumped in with the bad guys, A/A and CSG?

[MavstabYoudead]

another guild would become more hardcore and do the same thing. it's an endless cycle quit hoping for something different.

[kotton05]

another guild would become more hardcore and do the same thing. it's an endless cycle quit hoping for something different.

Thanks tmo

[MavstabYoudead]

Thanks tmo

we gave them a good run in FE.

[Cecily]

Naw. Eventually, we can only hope, enough of you hardcores will have their real life collapse to allow sane people to reign over the server.

[MavstabYoudead]

Naw. Eventually, we can only hope, enough of you hardcores will have their real life collapse to allow sane people to reign over the server.

if their real life collapse wouldn't they just have more time to play? Would think you would argue for them to discover a real life if you are trying to be logical...

[Jaxon]

Why do you have Rustle, the good guys, lumped in with the bad guys, A/A and CSG?

Well it's your caps, you see. Have you noticed that your caps have actually got little pictures of skulls on them?

[Cecily]

if their real life collapse wouldn't they just have more time to play? Would think you would argue for them to discover a real life if you are trying to be logical...

Emotional arguments are stronger than logic. And I'm talking about the collapse after the more time to play phase. Homelessness, divorce, suicide, etc. I really just wish you all the best. After that happens to enough of you, maybe we can enjoy classic EQ like normal people.

[MavstabYoudead]

Emotional arguments are stronger than logic. And I'm talking about the collapse after the more time to play phase. Homelessness, divorce, suicide, etc. I really just wish you all the best. After that happens to enough of you, maybe we can enjoy classic EQ like normal people.

normal people don't make comments like that, but carry on.

[Expediency]

Why are you lumping rustle with a/a? One of these things is not like the others

[Cecily]

normal people don't make comments like that, but carry on.

Well you see... the juxtaposition of batshit crazy and normal is what amused me there. I really just post here to entertain myself since you're all fucking awful at doing it for me.

But there's a grain of truth in there. The consequences of staring at some walls for 16 hours at a time on a regular basis is gonna catch up with some people and at least a few lives are going to get ruined in pursuit imaginary dragon things. In all honesty it just really makes me sad to think about.

[Troxx]

Why are you lumping rustle with a/a? One of these things is not like the others

[BallzDeep]

If you want to kill dragons without anyone else around.....Go create a private server and get your guild on it.....It's not really that hard or use test. People complain about not seeing content when the content is everywhere for them to use at their disposal. People want to see content so they can feel accomplished against other people. Even the casuals think this way. Otherwise, how hard is it to do something like the Faceless did.

[deezy]

If you want to kill dragons without anyone else around.....Go create a private server and get your guild on it.....It's not really that hard or use test. People complain about not seeing content when the content is everywhere for them to use at their disposal. People want to see content so they can feel accomplished against other people. Even the casuals think this way. Otherwise, how hard is it to do something like the Faceless did.
I only partially play this to kill dragons, another part is making new friends and having fun with them.

[Lhancelot]

Why do you have Rustle, the good guys, lumped in with the bad guys, A/A and CSG?

haha. I just picked the top three most successful raiding guilds on p99! It's nothing personal. Notice, I even placed Rustle as the first guild listed making them number 1!

[Convict]

People want to see content so they can feel accomplished against other people. Even the casuals think this way.
nice projecting pal

None of the casual players I know in game think this way aside from a couple but they aren't even really that casual so no coincidence there. We actually play video games for fun and to pass a little bit of down time playing with friends between work and sleep, not to "feel accomplished" in a virtual world. Good to see the hardcore neckbeards still have their priorities twisted though.

[BallzDeep]

I guess it's unheard of to play here casually and raid on your private server huh?

[BallzDeep]

I forgot....you HAVE to have those kills and pixels on this server

[Cecily]

Experience has taught me that, yes, this is true.

[Kushie]

5 star thread

[Skew]

haha. I just picked the top three most successful raiding guilds on p99! It's nothing personal. Notice, I even placed Rustle as the first guild listed making them number 1!

When we say doing more with less , it doesnt just refer to our lack of zerg. We dont award track DKP so we rely on a few people picking a few hours here and there to get FTEs.
Our combined tracking hours per week as a guild is probably 20. A/As is probably 200.

[Cecily]

More with less is kinda cliche. I don't like it. How about we're just better at EQ?

[Skew]

More with less is kinda cliche. I don't like it. How about we're just better at EQ?

Let me run it by Maner. It'd be a shame if he had to make 398 posts on the subject in RNF if he wasnt on board.

[Qtip]

This is just toxic. The grief being displayed by the op is what's killing this server. Just admit that you cant compete, so you're forced to play on the forums griefing lower level new players off the server. I thought this only happened on the red server.

[mefdinkins]

I definitely respect Rustle's playstyle but I think it's hard to say "you're better" or "you're the good guys." I would def. say you have some guiding principles that are respectable and some solid players. There's also some saltbots in Rustle, as there is in any guild.

I would def. argue Awakened is the "best" in terms of ability to kill mobs, has the most skilled players, and are not "bad guys."

I also would admit there's very skilled players in Aw, AM, CSG, F/V, and Rustle. Top to bottom though, Aw/Am have the most experience with the highest end content, especially since it has changed dramatically -- so hard fought mastery of mechanics/tactics that worked in early Velious may not be useful anymore.

Either way, from epics, to Thurg/Ss/Kael quest armor, to fun quests in Velious like Ring10 and 7thShawl, there's plenty of fun content for anyone to enjoy so be sure to do your research when looking for a guild that suits you!

[kotton05]

A/a have more xperience on content? Have you ever seen them kill in vp? Top kek.

The curve of skill versus zerg is so fucked in a/a. Most the time it hurts them due to the amount of warm body they got (it's kind of gross).

[mefdinkins]

A/a have more xperience on content? Have you ever seen them kill in vp? Top kek.

The curve of skill versus zerg is so fucked in a/a. Most the time it hurts them due to the amount of warm body they got (it's kind of gross).

I made an objectively irrefutable statement and you come back with some typo ridden garbage. I was going to write out a long response but realized you're just trolling. Best wishes.

[Cecily]

No, seriously. They are hilariously bad in VP.

I would def. argue Awakened is the "best" in terms of ability to kill mobs, has the most skilled players, and are not "bad guys."

I respectfully disagree on all of those. However, Awakened leadership is their biggest flaw. Unwilling to compromise and implement pretty draconian policies that their membership has to go along with or else. I once had a list of about 15 seriously stupid things Awakened did policywise during my unpleasant month with them and have since then forgotten about because I try not to think about that terrible guild too much. They do well because lots of people to throw at mobs. Enough clerics and rogues and everything dies. Apply pressure.. mob breaks. They're still bad.

[Cecily]

I definitely respect Rustle's playstyle but I think it's hard to say "you're better" or "you're the good guys." I would def. say you have some guiding principles that are respectable and some solid players.

I appreciate that, but again, I disagree. It's incredibly easy to say.

We are better. We are the good guys. Try it.

[kempoguy80]

I appreciate that, but again, I disagree. It's incredibly easy to say.

We are better. We are the good guys. Try it.

from a person who has no idea what the difference is between their respective guilds and just sees trash talk from everyone, why would Rustle be considered the good guys?

[Lhancelot]

from a person who has no idea what the difference is between their respective guilds and just sees trash talk from everyone, why would Rustle be considered the good guys?

I am curious about this too regarding actual ingame accomsplishments and policy differences between the guilds... I just always assumed all the raid guilds must operate fairly similar to one another due to how the raid scene is set up here.

I think the trash talk is fine. When players in a game talk trash it shows they are competitive and passionate. The only time trash talk is bad, is when it gets personal, then imo it's not really trash talk at all but instead something altogether different.

I think all the raid guilds on this server have "good guys." I imagine that their leaders are what others may consider more often than not the "bad guys." Of course, it could be as simple as players not being objective and judging other players or other guild leaders subjectively.

Cecily has the experience of being in Awakened and Rustle, so I would have to take this perspective a little more seriously when Cecily comments on the difference in guild policies and their respective leadership.

[Detoxx]

Well you see... the juxtaposition of batshit crazy and normal is what amused me there. I really just post here to entertain myself since you're all fucking awful at doing it for me.

But there's a grain of truth in there. The consequences of staring at some walls for 16 hours at a time on a regular basis is gonna catch up with some people and at least a few lives are going to get ruined in pursuit imaginary dragon things. In all honesty it just really makes me sad to think about.

Ive stared at walls for many many years. During those years i finished a college degree, got a job making 80k or more a year and currently dating a beautiful girl.

Your blanket assumptions and steroetypes are completely idiotic at best and just wrong at worst. You been here, in the same abyss you claim to no longer be a part of, and are fully aware that those stereotyoes are the small minority of guilds like A/A. Not the majority.

To each their own though, i suppose.

[Kushie]

Detoxx makes 80k a year and has a girlfriend??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

Cool

[Bones]

you know its believable when they have to reassure rnf about how nice their irl is while still maintaining pixel dominance

[Cecily]

Ive stared at walls for many many years. During those years i finished a college degree, got a job making 80k or more a year and currently dating a beautiful girl.

Your blanket assumptions and steroetypes are completely idiotic at best and just wrong at worst. You been here, in the same abyss you claim to no longer be a part of, and are fully aware that those stereotyoes are the small minority of guilds like A/A. Not the majority.

To each their own though, i suppose.

So blanket assumptions, stereotypes, and majority are what you got from my use of the words some and a few. I'm talking about the minority, idiot. You may have done well, emphasis on the may, but your play style is going to without a doubt ruin some / a few (so I'm talking about your entire guild here illiterate) people's lives. That's a big deal to me and should be to you if you gave the slightest fuck about the people you claim to lead.

[botrainer]

Problem with the server is this sole key factor:

The server staff lets the PLAYERS (Toxic ones) make the 'raid rules', and that then gets enforced by the SERVER STAFF.

Talk about backwards thinking. Server staff should actually (and actively) look at the problem, and throw down a solution that doesn't make any players happy.

Like restricting binding locations of characters, restricting the pulling range of raid mobs (leash points, a mob always wipes agro after moving 100 ticks off their spawn location). Applying something that's still active on live, you're found breaking any rules of the server (something we mindless click accept to each time upon logging in to the server), suspended 10 days (the player, not the guild) repeat those behaviors, 6 months, repeat it again, perma ban.

There's a number of things this server can do to dictate to the server. I just haven't seen in any way from a raiding stand point seen the staff lay down a new structure of how we are going to have to raid. Player made agreements are to easily changed and altered to better fit the toxic nature of the very top end raiding.

[Dolalin]

Ive stared at walls for many many years. During those years i finished a college degree, got a job making 80k or more a year and currently dating a beautiful girl.

You should join CSG. We all make 120k+ a year and date east european supermodels. Or that might just be me.

[Maner]

So blanket assumptions, stereotypes, and majority are what you got from my use of the words some and a few. I'm talking about the minority, idiot. You may have done well, emphasis on the may, but your play style is going to without a doubt ruin some / a few (so I'm talking about your entire guild here illiterate) people's lives. That's a big deal to me and should be to you if you gave the slightest fuck about the people you claim to lead.

So now you're trying to help people? Lmfao you're as badly off if not worse off than all those people who stare at walls for 16+ hours at a time. You spend just as much time bitching about what other people are doing instead of just focusing on your own obvious problems.

Are you such a pathetic human that you have no free will of your own? You actually think detox is forcing people to track dragons and ruin their lives for EQ pixels? The dellusions of a EQ joke...

Let me run it by Maner. It'd be a shame if he had to make 398 posts on the subject in RNF if he wasnt on board.

Keep doing more with less, if that's what you call 70+ people out of 4 different guilds raiding together. The problem is it's so obviously false yet some people are so blinded by, their own uninformed opinions, they actually think they do more with less. Bitching about A/A zerging something during prime time because they had 55 people respond is just stupid. Especially when rustle shows up 2 weeks later and has to raid with another guild in order to field the 50+ people they need for every target...

Problem with the server is this sole key factor:

The server staff lets the PLAYERS (Toxic ones) make the 'raid rules', and that then gets enforced by the SERVER STAFF.

Talk about backwards thinking. Server staff should actually (and actively) look at the problem, and throw down a solution that doesn't make any players happy.

Like restricting binding locations of characters, restricting the pulling range of raid mobs (leash points, a mob always wipes agro after moving 100 ticks off their spawn location). Applying something that's still active on live, you're found breaking any rules of the server (something we mindless click accept to each time upon logging in to the server), suspended 10 days (the player, not the guild) repeat those behaviors, 6 months, repeat it again, perma ban.

There's a number of things this server can do to dictate to the server. I just haven't seen in any way from a raiding stand point seen the staff lay down a new structure of how we are going to have to raid. Player made agreements are to easily changed and altered to better fit the toxic nature of the very top end raiding.

Actually the raid rules we currently have were thought up by the guides and implemented to the extent they are now because of the casual guilds like CSG and BdA.

Clearly you must be new here as you have no idea what you're talking about.

[kotton05]

Maner just know the difference between planned raids and batphones raids during the day. Those numbers you throw out is like our entire active roster (we planned the exact times) If you did aftermaths whole roster with a preplanned raid you guys would eclipse csg. Same for awakened. So your numbers are abit off if you see it from that angle my dude.

[Maner]

Maner just know the difference between planned raids and batphones raids during the day. Those numbers you throw out is like our entire active roster (we planned the exact times) If you did aftermaths whole roster with a preplanned raid you guys would eclipse csg. Same for awakened. So your numbers are abit off if you see it from that angle my dude.

So now your excuse is you can't control how many people respond to a raid, which goes the same for when A/A send out a batphone. Please keep justifying your zerg raids while trying to claim you do more with less.

[Swish]

So now your excuse is you can't control how many people respond to a raid, which goes the same for when A/A send out a batphone. Please keep justifying your zerg raids while trying to claim you do more with less.

The server needs another guild with an A-Team approach to raiding.

[kotton05]

So now your excuse is you can't control how many people respond to a raid, which goes the same for when A/A send out a batphone. Please keep justifying your zerg raids while trying to claim you do more with less.

Have you ever had a poop so big that it felt kind of gay?

[Maner]

Have you ever had a poop so big that it felt kind of gay?

Sure, however if I was in rustle I would brag about using just as much toilet paper I guess

[Lhancelot]

Have you ever had a poop so big that it felt kind of gay?

No matter the size of it, I am always happy when I poop!

[Ravager]

Ive stared at walls for many many years. During those years i finished a college degree, got a job making 80k or more a year and currently dating a beautiful girl.
This cons dubious.

[Kushie]

HES NOT A LOSER HE HAS FRAPS CONCEDE

[t3kn34k]

Have you ever had a poop so big that it felt kind of gay?

Saving this post for posterity

[Detoxx]

So blanket assumptions, stereotypes, and majority are what you got from my use of the words some and a few. I'm talking about the minority, idiot. You may have done well, emphasis on the may, but your play style is going to without a doubt ruin some / a few (so I'm talking about your entire guild here illiterate) people's lives. That's a big deal to me and should be to you if you gave the slightest fuck about the people you claim to lead.

Lol ok. I truly have the power to not only force these people to play this gsme but also improve their lives from afar.

Solid post there, sweetcheeks

[Rygar]

Maybe she just trying to say lead by example? If you declare a day off for FTEs may lead others to make a few healthier life choices for that one day a week.

[Detoxx]

Maybe she just trying to say lead by example? If you declare a day off for FTEs may lead others to make a few healthier life choices for that one day a week.

https://youtu.be/wKjxFJfcrcA

[Rygar]

https://youtu.be/wKjxFJfcrcA

Hardly see how suggesting everyone step away from the grind for a day makes everyone dumber?

[Detoxx]

Hardly see how suggesting everyone step away from the grind for a day makes everyone dumber?

Because if thats what they wanted to do they would:

A. Do it because no one says they cant and;
B. Be in your guild

[Pokesan]

detoxx doesn't care about black people

[bigjerry]

Ive stared at walls for many many years. During those years i finished a college degree, got a job making 80k or more a year and currently dating a beautiful girl.

Your blanket assumptions and steroetypes are completely idiotic at best and just wrong at worst. You been here, in the same abyss you claim to no longer be a part of, and are fully aware that those stereotyoes are the small minority of guilds like A/A. Not the majority.

To each their own though, i suppose.

jeezus

[AzzarTheGod]

detoxx doesn't care about black people

big kek off this post impeccable timing

[kotton05]

https://youtu.be/-uSip1wB3jM

So does George bush

[Dolalin]

There are a core group of players in this box who monopolize a great deal of content. They're the guys who see am all you can eat restaurant and completely take the piss, shoving food down their shirts on the way out the door.

It takes the server staff to smack some human decency these people. They'll just use and abuse for as long as they can get away with it otherwise.

[Klik]

What if Rustle/A/A were wiped off the server?...
hrm what if the top blue guilds were off the server...

Then you would have red server. A place where pixels would be virtually uncontested, but then all the casual guilds would have to post on the forums and convince the GMs to watch them fight... saying stuff like, we don't know the rules, or the rules aren't consistent, just so their pixels don't seem uncontested.

[Ravager]

What if Rustle/A/A were wiped off the server?...
hrm what if the top blue guilds were off the server...

Then you would have red server. A place where pixels would be virtually uncontested, but then all the casual guilds would have to post on the forums and convince the GMs to watch them fight... saying stuff like, we don't know the rules, or the rules aren't consistent, just so their pixels don't seem uncontested.

The rules of waiting your turn are pretty convoluted. They'd almost need a list or something.

[zaneosak]

As a pure spectator and someone that doesn't even have a lvl 60.... this is some interesting stuff, is the raid scene on P99 that volatile? On Fennin Ro back in classic, it was ruthless between my guild and The Mystical Order in Planes of Power, the struggle between top guild and 2nd top guild, TMO was largely top for most of the competition..... but it was never this hostile -- shit's pretty wild. I guess it's just because 1 server houses all these fuckers lol.

[danzig]

is the raid scene on P99 that volatile?

No, complaining is just the national sport of Norrath.

[Rygar]

Because if thats what they wanted to do they would:

A. Do it because no one says they cant and;
B. Be in your guild

Perhaps they do want to step away for a day but the pixel lust is clouding their better judgment? Maybe a day off will let them recharge their batteries, doesn't have to be in a Vulak window or anything.

I don't pretend to know the inner workings of a high end raid guild, but it sounds like people get burnout and quit, then new hungry mouths take their place and the cycle repeats.

A day off doesn't need to be the solution but a suggestion, seems like Rustle has a window cutoff for tracking / FTEs that help folks relax, so maybe something similar. Maybe your guild already has some kind of 'step away from the keyboard' policy in place at times, would like to hear it if so.

I'm just trying to talk and discuss on the forum, no need to get angry / cynical.

[Detoxx]

There are a core group of players in this box who monopolize a great deal of content. They're the guys who see am all you can eat restaurant and completely take the piss, shoving food down their shirts on the way out the door.

It takes the server staff to smack some human decency these people. They'll just use and abuse for as long as they can get away with it otherwise.

Except were the ones that waited in lines. We both have the same opportunity, we just were more hungry and got there first. You just want to come driving up and go to the front...

[Detoxx]

Perhaps they do want to step away for a day but the pixel lust is clouding their better judgment? Maybe a day off will let them recharge their batteries, doesn't have to be in a Vulak window or anything.

I don't pretend to know the inner workings of a high end raid guild, but it sounds like people get burnout and quit, then new hungry mouths take their place and the cycle repeats.

A day off doesn't need to be the solution but a suggestion, seems like Rustle has a window cutoff for tracking / FTEs that help folks relax, so maybe something similar. Maybe your guild already has some kind of 'step away from the keyboard' policy in place at times, would like to hear it if so.

I'm just trying to talk and discuss on the forum, no need to get angry / cynical.

Not sure how many times i van say this...if anyone wants to step away for a day, a week a month or forever no one stops them. They do it if they want they dont if they dont.

Pretty simple

[Pokesan]

big kek off this post impeccable timing

power word w/o incantation im so fukkin strong

[mefdinkins]

I don't pretend to know the inner workings of a high end raid guild, but it sounds like people get burnout and quit, then new hungry mouths take their place and the cycle repeats.

A day off doesn't need to be the solution but a suggestion, seems like Rustle has a window cutoff for tracking / FTEs that help folks relax, so maybe something similar. Maybe your guild already has some kind of 'step away from the keyboard' policy in place at times, would like to hear it if so.

I'm just trying to talk and discuss on the forum, no need to get angry / cynical.

In BDA they didn't track past certain times because they couldn't field a raid force and spending time tracking and losing mobs was too demoralizing, it wasn't some moral high ground on making sure people got to sleep or kissed their wife goodnight.

In Awakened, we can kill many of the mobs in game 24/7 (def not all but many). Awakened also has a diverse playerbase from around the world representing timezones in Asia, Europe, North/South America, and Australia -- probably other timezones too. So when one crew goes to sleep/work, there are usually other players around to help.

You mentioned you would like to hear 'step away' policies. In Awakened there are no required raids, there is no DKP decay if you want to take a break from raiding, there is no tracking requirement, and we don't track mobs unless someone volunteers to do so. Also, we have a two tier voluntary batphone system - so you can customize when you want to be informed about targets, what type of targets you want to be batphoned for, and what hours/times you want to be batphoned. I always turn off my batphone when I'm asleep/at work.

[Ravager]

Except were the ones that waited in lines. We both have the same opportunity, we just were more hungry and got there first. You just want to come driving up and go to the front...
Yes, eventually, they will want to be at the front of the line, that's how lines work. You don't see people eating chicken tenders in line at the buffet and waiting around for the servers to bring out more.

[mefdinkins]

Yes, eventually, they will want to be at the front of the line, that's how lines work. You don't see people eating chicken tenders in line at the buffet and waiting around for the servers to bring out more.

I wouldn't particularly describe P99 and old school EQ's raid / loot system as a "buffet of pixels."

[Ravager]

I wouldn't particularly describe P99 and old school EQ's raid / loot system as a "buffet of pixels."
Maybe not an "all-you-can-eat" buffet, but the analogy works.

[trite]

Why do you have Rustle, the good guys, lumped in with the bad guys, A/A and CSG?

^^ one of the most toxic and least popular players on the server lol

[Jaxon]

Analogies are fine tools to explain concepts but are useless as arguments. Everyone spends their time focusing on building up or tearing down the analogy instead of focusing on the issue at hand. Let me demonstrate.

P99 is certainly not anything like a buffet because there is no line and there's never any expectation of being served pixels or food or anything else. Maybe you'd like there to be a line but there isn't one and there never will be. It's more like a MMORPG with non-instanced content.

[Rygar]

Not sure how many times i van say this...if anyone wants to step away for a day, a week a month or forever no one stops them. They do it if they want they dont if they dont.

Pretty simple

I get that, but isn't burn out and high-end addiction a thing? Like, people answering every single batphone in the middle of the night because they want to keep building their DKP pool, if they don't get to this raid others will and then they will fall further behind. I know not everyone is like that, but I've seen a lot of 'keeping up with the jones' mentality, even in AG members.

I don't see how a mandatory break from tracking / racing / raiding is such a bad thing, I think it can make guilds stronger in the long run personally. Can be only a few times a month even when only some select crummy mobs are in window.

[Ravager]

P99 is certainly not anything like a buffet because there is no line and there's never any expectation of being served pixels or food or anything else. Maybe you'd like there to be a line but there isn't one and there never will be. It's more like a MMORPG with non-instanced content.
You make a fair observation. It's my fault that I was not clearer that I was arguing that there should be lines for this shit and that I don't believe I can log on and get a plate full of black pepper chicken. I'll attempt to clear a wider inferential pathway for you next time so you can keep up.

My analogies here are meant to illustrate the absurdity that comes by not having a line.

It's impossible to argue without analogies, since the very words you use to argue with are themselves analogous to the ideas you are arguing. If they weren't, everyone here would agree on what it means to "compete" on this server.

[Ravager]

Not sure how many times i van say this...if anyone wants to step away for a day, a week a month or forever no one stops them. They do it if they want they dont if they dont.

Pretty simple

Detoxx doesn't care. He'll use anybody and when they burn themselves out, that's okay by him, because he'll find another anybody to use.

Pretty simple

[Cecily]

^^ one of the most toxic and least popular players on the server lol

Lol. How am I toxic? Have you read your own posts? Nothing but salt.

[Phatez]

I get that, but isn't burn out and high-end addiction a thing? Like, people answering every single batphone in the middle of the night because they want to keep building their DKP pool, if they don't get to this raid others will and then they will fall further behind. I know not everyone is like that, but I've seen a lot of 'keeping up with the jones' mentality, even in AG members.

I don't see how a mandatory break from tracking / racing / raiding is such a bad thing, I think it can make guilds stronger in the long run personally. Can be only a few times a month even when only some select crummy mobs are in window.

We have taken several mandatory breaks from raiding this year.

Phatez

[Lobus]

We have taken several mandatory breaks from raiding this year.

Phatez

10/10 self-aware burn... /thread

[Dolalin]

Except were the ones that waited in lines. We both have the same opportunity, we just were more hungry and got there first. You just want to come driving up and go to the front...

There's that myth again, that this somehow entitles you to anything. The guys who log on later are just as worthy as you. It's the staff who set the rules that encourage this race to the bottom.

[Mead]

There's that myth again, that this somehow entitles you to anything. The guys who log on later are just as worthy as you. It's the staff who set the rules that encourage this race to the bottom.

Don't get me wrong here, I think Detoxx is one of the biggest morans in this joint, but you're pretty out of touch with reality if you think that's how things are supposed to go. And you clearly don't know the definition of entitled. You're the one who thinks you're entitled to mobs and loot if you think you can simply login whenever you want and be granted stuff.

[Ravager]

Don't get me wrong here, I think Detoxx is one of the biggest morans in this joint, but you're pretty out of touch with reality if you think that's how things are supposed to go. And you clearly don't know the definition of entitled. You're the one who thinks you're entitled to mobs and loot if you think you can simply login whenever you want and be granted stuff.
Isn't this how it's supposed to go?:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

Is it entitlement to expect to find what is advertised on the front page? How are things supposed to go if not that and why do you get to decide?

[Mead]

Isn't this how it's supposed to go?:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

Is it entitlement to expect to find what is advertised on the front page? How are things supposed to go if not that and why do you get to decide?

I don't generally waste my time arguing with idiots on the internet, especially when they play dumb, but I'm going to leave you with this. They're providing you with an as close as possible classic eq server. Nowhere in there does it say you're going to get free pixels because you have a job, wife, and kids that are more important to you than they are to these neckbeards. Generally speaking, the ones that sink the most time into a game are going to get the better rewards vs someone who doesn't. This goes for just about every game out there. Whether you believe this is how it should be or not is irrelevant. This is the reality of it.

[Ravager]

I don't generally waste my time arguing with idiots on the internet, especially when they play dumb, but I'm going to leave you with this. They're providing you with an as close as possible classic eq server. Nowhere in there does it say you're going to get free pixels because you have a job, wife, and kids that are more important to you than they are to these neckbeards. Generally speaking, the ones that sink the most time into a game are going to get the better rewards vs someone who doesn't. This goes for just about every game out there. Whether you believe this is how it should be or not is irrelevant. This is the reality of it.
How much do you pay a month for your pixels if you aren't getting them for free?

Do you honestly think raiding here is as close as possible to raiding on classic?

Did the people who put hours upon hours into their characters on classic servers where the guilds rotated mobs not deserve their pixels, even though by all metrics they sunk every bit as much time as the next neckbeard who might not have got his pixels in a rotation?

Why is my opinion on how something should be irrelevant? The GMs said over and over again they'd honor any player made agreements. I play this game. So do lots of people. Their opinions matter too, especially when it comes to everyone playing nice together and making an optimal gaming experience.

[Maner]

How much do you pay a month for your pixels if you aren't getting them for free?

Do you honestly think raiding here is as close as possible to raiding on classic?

Did the people who put hours upon hours into their characters on classic servers where the guilds rotated mobs not deserve their pixels, even though by all metrics they sunk every bit as much time as the next neckbeard who might not have got his pixels in a rotation?

Why is my opinion on how something should be irrelevant? The GMs said over and over again they'd honor any player made agreements. I play this game. So do lots of people. Their opinions matter too, especially when it comes to everyone playing nice together and making an optimal gaming experience.

Clearly the experience people had playing live differs depending on the server you played on. There were no rotations on Xev for example. There were 2 guilds on the top and they kept everything at the top to themselves until 2 expansions past for the most part. The top guilds were still raiding ToV when they were also raiding VT in luclin. It was only towards the end of luclin that anything resembling a player made agreement showed up. That agreement was whoever killed aary got all of ntov for 24 hours once everything respawned. The cock block for emp ssra for example was insane on xev. I think even during OOW i only ever saw one group outside of the top kill the cursed in ssra.

So actually yes, the raid scene on p99 where almost everything of worth is killed by the same 2 guilds is exactly like i remember in era content on live. I know for a fact harmonium never gave up a trak kill when they had people who needed teeth.

The fact that you think anyone's opinion, other than the people who manage and run the server, matter then you are clearly someone who should move to phinny.

[Pokesan]

There are a core group of players in this box who monopolize a great deal of content. They're the guys who see am all you can eat restaurant and completely take the piss, shoving food down their shirts on the way out the door.

It takes the server staff to smack some human decency these people. They'll just use and abuse for as long as they can get away with it otherwise.

pigs at the trough is pretty accurate characterization of the blue raid scene

[Ravager]

The fact that you think anyone's opinion, other than the people who manage and run the server, matter then you are clearly someone who should move to phinny.
It's apparent to me that the opinions of the players do matter, otherwise there wouldn't currently be a GM cleaning up Red and asking everyone to give it another try and change their opinion of it.

If everyone who would prefer rotations just up and left for Phinny, you'd be playing on a server as dead as Red and the GMs would be doing what they can to encourage people to try P99.

Blue's population is only what it is because of the 1-59 game. At 60, most sane people either start over on an alt or find something else to play.

[Maner]

It's apparent to me that the opinions of the players do matter, otherwise there wouldn't currently be a GM cleaning up Red and asking everyone to give it another try and change their opinion of it.

If everyone who would prefer rotations just up and left for Phinny, you'd be playing on a server as dead as Red and the GMs would be doing what they can to encourage people to try P99.

Blue's population is only what it is because of the 1-59 game. At 60, most sane people either start over on an alt or find something else to play.

Other than the fact that keeping red server going is probably a drain on resources? If the server is actually dead why keep it running seems to be the question they are trying to answer with this.

[Mead]

How much do you pay a month for your pixels if you aren't getting them for free?

Do you honestly think raiding here is as close as possible to raiding on classic?

Did the people who put hours upon hours into their characters on classic servers where the guilds rotated mobs not deserve their pixels, even though by all metrics they sunk every bit as much time as the next neckbeard who might not have got his pixels in a rotation?

Why is my opinion on how something should be irrelevant? The GMs said over and over again they'd honor any player made agreements. I play this game. So do lots of people. Their opinions matter too, especially when it comes to everyone playing nice together and making an optimal gaming experience.

I'll check back with you in 5 years and you can let me know how the quest for free pixels turned out.

[AzzarTheGod]

consider a lot of red in the bathtub

Yo my zega on the dunks

[Tasslehofp99]

we gave them a good run in FE.

fuck yah bud

[Dolalin]

I want to see a vote taken, rotation vs FFA for the raid scene, amongst the current guild leaders. Majority rules, baby. If all but one or two guilds agree to rotate, that agreement should be forced on the whiny minority anyways.

[MavstabYoudead]

I want to see a vote taken, rotation vs FFA for the raid scene, amongst the current guild leaders. Majority rules, baby. If all but one or two guilds agree to rotate, that agreement should be forced on the whiny minority anyways.

No.

[Mead]

I want to see a vote taken, rotation vs FFA for the raid scene, amongst the current guild leaders. Majority rules, baby. If all but one or two guilds agree to rotate, that agreement should be forced on the whiny minority anyways.

[Detoxx]

I want to see a vote taken, rotation vs FFA for the raid scene, amongst the current guild leaders. Majority rules, baby. If all but one or two guilds agree to rotate, that agreement should be forced on the whiny minority anyways.

This might be the dumbest thing ive ever read.

"I want to see a vote taken that couldnt possibly more skewed in my favor in which im 100% aware of that and then see it enforced."

Lol

[maskedmelonpai]

I want to see a vote taken, rotation vs FFA for the raid scene, amongst the current guild leaders. Majority rules, baby. If all but one or two guilds agree to rotate, that agreement should be forced on the whiny minority anyways.

yeah, fuck minorities, they opinions don't matter. that what democracy all about right?

[Pokesan]

yeah, fuck minorities, they opinions don't matter. that what democracy all about right?

minority rule is even a thing irl thanks to rule lawyers

no escape

[Ravager]

I'll check back with you in 5 years and you can let me know how the quest for free pixels turned out.
You do realize it will be the same people monopolizing the same dragons here in five years if they are allowed to, right? You might want to rethink which side you want to be associated with.

There's hope for a better classic server in five years anyway, and you can waste your time arguing with whoever is left to argue with then.

[Dolalin]

yeah, fuck minorities, they opinions don't matter. that what democracy all about right?

#neckbeardlivesmatter

[bclements87]

Is this a joke? LoL if you guys want to hardcore raid and kill raid target that takes a socked amount of gear and play time. Join them or start a hardcore guild that can go neck to neck with them?

[bclements87]

Maybe call it revision

[AzzarTheGod]

i only do sex acts my grandpa would approve of

woke. respect the forefathers

[Mead]

You do realize it will be the same people monopolizing the same dragons here in five years if they are allowed to, right? You might want to rethink which side you want to be associated with.

There's hope for a better classic server in five years anyway, and you can waste your time arguing with whoever is left to argue with then.

Are you on drugs and/or just posting without actually reading replies? That's exactly what I have been saying is going to happen lol. And I don't associate myself with either side. Both sides are losing.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

What if Rogean felt sorry for all you losers and closed the servers permanently?

[Lhancelot]

What if Rogean felt sorry for all you losers and closed the servers permanently?

We'd all just flock to another game.

[AzzarTheGod]

What if Rogean felt sorry for all you losers and closed the servers permanently?

had a witty relevant factual reply to this but dont want to get banned

fun stuff lol

[Rivera]

What if Sirken and Rogean had enough of your terrible posts and decided to delete your account?

Why do you have Rustle, the good guys, lumped in with the bad guys, A/A and CSG?

Thread should have ended after these two comments on first page. TBH.

[derpcake]

What if Rogean felt sorry for all you losers and closed the servers permanently?

i would donate a few 100$ as long as the forum remained up

should generate enough salt to last 100 Canadian winters

[Lhancelot]

Thread should have ended after these two comments on first page. TBH.

Anyone that thinks of themself as a "good guy" probably isn't anything close to such.

[Cecily]

And thus I clothe my naked villainy with odd ends stolen out of holy writ, and seem a saint when most I play the devil.

[Phenyo]

And thus I clothe my naked villainy with odd ends stolen out of holy writ, and seem a saint when most I play the devil.

Marry me, my moms got a pretty big basement we can probably fit all of our shit down here. We can recite and eat hot pockets, could you ask for more?

[Whirled]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQQdlPoz5g

[Aviann]

Anyone that thinks of themself as a "good guy" probably isn't anything close to such.

There hasn't been any good guys since Asgard. Now we are all a bunch of mercenaries with moral complexities. Its kind of romantic in a way.

[Bubbles]

i would donate a few 100$ as long as the forum remained up

should generate enough salt to last 100 Canadian winters

loooool

[entruil]

dang never even seen this read... (hope i didnt post in it...)


What if the training wheels were taken off?...

What if the minority didn't have an abusive oppurtunity to roflcopter camping them...


what if people made alt's and legit stood up in recognition of higher standards and delivered the killing blow before the HP ring was pulled?...

what if players stuck around inspite of the insta-gratification plagued trophies and achievements?...

what if people didn't spend their hours at work buying a new bubble hero?...

whoops... I was 'sposed ta been gone... peace...

[entruil]

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peace...