America - Episode IV: A New Hope

[Hasbinbad]

http://i52.tinypic.com/mrwef8.jpg

[Krimsin]

Is that a civil war on the dark side?

[muddy27]

Obama would not be facing Darth Vader, if anything he should be IN the Darth Vader suit, and ill gladly take the other side on the Rebel Forces.

[Krimsin]

Obama would not be facing Darth Vader, if anything he should be IN the Darth Vader suit, and ill gladly take the other side on the Rebel Forces.

Its a picture of Obama passing out marching orders.

[Hasbinbad]

It's obv Cheney in the Vader suit. Don't you guys know he doesn't have a pulse? ..and just because slave mongers in southern America STOLE the word rebel from decent revolutionists the world over doesn't mean that it actually means "bucktoothed sister-fucker in a truck far too large for their needs" like you think it means.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

So the new hope is that Darth Vader will free us from the oppressive tax and spend regime of Emperor Obama? Then I agree with you. : )

GO DARTH ! ! !

[Krimsin]

It's obv Cheney in the Vader suit. Don't you guys know he doesn't have a pulse? ..and just because slave mongers in southern America STOLE the word rebel from decent revolutionists the world over doesn't mean that it actually means "bucktoothed sister-fucker in a truck far too large for their needs" like you think it means.

HasUbinMAD?

[Hasbinbad]

HasUbinMAD?
I take it your truck is far too large for your needs.

[Krimsin]

Nah your mom fits in the bed perfectly!

[Slathar]

So the new hope is that Darth Vader will free us from the oppressive tax and spend regime of Emperor Obama? Then I agree with you. : )

GO DARTH ! ! !

silence failure. go back to your minimum wage job, racist.

[Krimsin]

silence failure. go back to your minimum wage job, racist.

I can't even tell who is trolling who at this point...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

silence failure. go back to your minimum wage job, racist.

Haha. That is a good one. Wait! Racist? For what?

[Messianic]

It's obv Cheney in the Vader suit. Don't you guys know he doesn't have a pulse? ..and just because slave mongers in southern America STOLE the word rebel from decent revolutionists the world over doesn't mean that it actually means "bucktoothed sister-fucker in a truck far too large for their needs" like you think it means.

So many poor, unfounded stereotypes it's not even worth addressing. Amusing that you think that way, though.

Economic policy has changed little and will change little under Obama, except a few higher taxes on the wealthy that actually end up hurting the rest of society more than most people are willing to understand.

It's all about doing a monetary policy/spending rain dance and hoping it works while keeping the naysayers demonized and out of the mainstream perception.

Bush did it, Obama does it more, and more effectively.

[Messianic]

I can't even tell who is trolling who at this point...

That's worth a lol

[Hasbinbad]

higher taxes on the wealthy that actually end up hurting the rest of society
Wildly unsupported drivel. Kthxbyela~

[Krimsin]

Wildly unsupported drivel. Kthxbyela~

You'd contend that higher taxes actually benefit society?

[Hasbinbad]

I'd contend that what he said is wildly unsupported drivel.
I'd also contend that you should do some research as to what era we were in while we had the highest taxes this nation has ever known, and what we accomplished in that era. I'd also contend that I like your avatar. Kthxbyela~

[Lamierus]

Wildly unsupported drivel. Kthxbyela~

I've been wandering the forums a lot lately and there have been some things you've said I didn't care for, but when you said this (not to mention even posting the picture and starting this topic), I'm definitely looking forward to TheTruth coming in to agree with ya as much as I do. :D

[Krimsin]

I'd contend that what he said is wildly unsupported drivel.
I'd also contend that you should do some research as to what era we were in while we had the highest taxes this nation has ever known, and what we accomplished in that era. I'd also contend that I like your avatar. Kthxbyela~

Jailbot likes you too.

What he's saying isn't drivel. What gives the government the right to arbitrarily punish an individual for earning more than the man next to him?

That is a really tough question because of the complexity of the tax code, but from what I know we started raising tax margins around 1925, plummetted into a depression, increased taxation further and further until about the mid 50's then we started dialing back down once WWII was paid for.

I suppose your point is that we won WWII? Which I'm not sure I fully follow. But again, I revert to my question previously; irregardless of circumstance, what right does the government have to take excessive amounts of income from one individual and starkly less from another?

[sero]

Krimsin, your posts are so retarded that I think we need a torch-bearing mob to deal with them. Why is there never a torch-bearing mob around when you need one?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics, relaxed regulations on industry, isolationism, Fox News, Glenn Beck, pick-em-up trucks, decreased transparency in gov't, old white people, creationism, Bill Kristol, wildly out of control military spending, anti-intellectualism, free-reign for financial fat cats, Blackwater etc., and whatever policies ensure the continued acceleration of the class division that will define America in the 21st century if we aren't careful. Also, list prestigious centers of learning in blue states vs. red states. And whats the secret of their success? Same as Wal-Mart - they promise to charge you less.

[Krimsin]

Krimsin, your posts are so retarded that I think we need a torch-bearing mob to deal with them. Why is there never a torch-bearing mob around when you need one?

Cool ad hominem bro.

Believe me, I've only posted like 30 times, you wanna see retarded, stick around!

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Jailbot likes you too.

But again, I revert to my question previously; irregardless of circumstance, what right does the government have to take excessive amounts of income from one individual and starkly less from another?

You should be suspended for 3 days for this one. I don't even know where to start telling you whats wrong with it, both philosophically and grammatically.

[Krimsin]

Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics, relaxed regulations on industry, isolationism, Fox News, Glenn Beck, pick-em-up trucks, decreased transparency in gov't, old white people, creationism, Bill Kristol, wildly out of control military spending, anti-intellectualism, free-reign for financial fat cats, Blackwater etc., and whatever policies ensure the continued acceleration of the class division that will define America in the 21st century if we aren't careful. Also, list prestigious centers of learning in blue states vs. red states. And whats the secret of their success? Same as Wal-Mart - they promise to charge you less.

Any thoughts on Libertarians?

[Krimsin]

You should be suspended for 3 days for this one. I don't even know where to start telling you whats wrong with it, both philosophically and grammatically.

So all men aren't creted equally? They are endowed with rights which are subject to change as soon as they earn $X+1?

Look you can defend the progressive tax system all you want but don't act like there isn't a level of disconnect between what is penned in our founding documents and the actions taken by our government.

And don't look at me to defend the red hats or the blue hats.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

You mean Republicans that are trying to separate themselves from the backward social planks of the Republican platform while supporting the backward economic ones?

[Krimsin]

You mean Republicans that are trying to separate themselves from the backward social planks of the Republican platform while supporting the backward economic ones?

Well DVS I don't really know where you stand on anything. So far you've managed to hurl insults without any shred of logic or constructive thought.

So enlighten me, explain what "forward" thinking economic planks you're proposing.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I'm certainly redistributionist in where I think economic policy should be headed, given where the resources of the nation have been flowing (generally) for the last 90 years. I think one of the most important things we need to do is level the playing field in education and in health care. Children born in lower class families (the number of which continues to increase) should have as much invested in their education as the far less numerous privileged children. The health-care debate is obv complex, but few would argue that it is fine the way it is, and that the (once again, growing) lower class is not getting affordable, comprehensive medical care.

There are fewer and fewer "big winners" in the American economy, and more overworked and underpaid families decade by decade. Though the rich of the country feel they deserve their money because they worked hard for it, it is not as if they are working harder than people I work with in the restaurant industry, or any other blue-collar job. The issue of how the government spends this tax money is also important here. Have you ever looked at where exactly the tax money goes? Here, at least, Libertarians have a point. It is being mismanaged, for sure. However, that is a reason to increase transparency and aggressively reform spending, not a reason to deem government spending of any type unnecessary. In the libertarians' world, the power of those who control large swaths of capital would be EVEN MORE unchecked.

The founders of the republic, by the way, had no contemporaneous analog for the kind of wealth disparity that exists today. Let that sink in before you make claims about their intentions vis-a-vis economic regulations, tariffs, income tax etc...

Another thing, if you make more than 200,000 dollars a year, and you think you "totally deserve it", you better be doing something spectacular with your work. Otherwise you're overpaid and might want to take a look in the mirror. By the way, looking the right way, saying the right things, and knowing the right people is not spectacular. Its tragically average. But the pay is good, amirite?

I'm not anti-wealth or anything, I'm trying to get rich just like everyone else. But these people that think that they are special and deserve 10x more than others, just because they have in fact obtained it, are the worst people ever. (Trust me, I worked as a landscaper in Hinsdale, IL for a year in college, and these people think they're pretty great.) And if you elect libertarians its gonna get worse. If people make tons of cash, good for them. The country they live in has lots of problems and is gonna need that cash to solve them.

[Harrison]

Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics, relaxed regulations on industry, isolationism, Fox News, Glenn Beck, pick-em-up trucks, decreased transparency in gov't, old white people, creationism, Bill Kristol, wildly out of control military spending, anti-intellectualism, free-reign for financial fat cats, Blackwater etc., and whatever policies ensure the continued acceleration of the class division that will define America in the 21st century if we aren't careful. Also, list prestigious centers of learning in blue states vs. red states. And whats the secret of their success? Same as Wal-Mart - they promise to charge you less.

Man, I am so glad I am not this stupid. Though, I bet the world would be a prettier place if I was this stupid.

[Harrison]

Another thing, if you make more than 200,000 dollars a year, and you think you "totally deserve it", you better be doing something spectacular with your work. Otherwise you're overpaid and might want to take a look in the mirror. .

Lawl.

[Japan]

irregardless

waves torch

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Man, I am so glad I am not this stupid. Though, I bet the world would be a prettier place if I was this stupid.

A carefully worded and well reasoned response Billy Bob, I'll have to think about this one...

[Starklen]

The issue is a lack of eclecticism and pragmatism in how we contend with problems and try to optimize the country. A lot of people struggle with divorcing their preconceived notions, belief systems, and emotions from the discussion and the decision making process.

[Hasbinbad]

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
91% in the top bracket through the beginning of the 60s.
Ya know, stuff like "going to the moon," and "inventing the computer," stuff like "a national network of interstate highways," and "the baby boom of atomic families complete with white picket fences."
Nothing important, ya know? Let's just get our money from poor people!! That sounds brilliant!!

[Slathar]

hey guys heres my impression of republicans:

"fuck you, i got mine. fuck fags, minorities. praise jesus. pro death penalty and anti abortion *eats 19 big macs and loses arm due to type 2 diabetes* FREEEEDOM"

did i do it right?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Yup. Jesus was a socialist. Deal with it.

[purist]

First step to Stalinism and the gulags: Obama's less-progressive-than-Richard-Nixon tax policy.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

hey guys heres my impression of republicans:

"fuck you, i got mine. fuck fags, minorities. praise jesus. pro death penalty and anti abortion *eats 19 big macs and loses arm due to type 2 diabetes* FREEEEDOM"

did i do it right?

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check? lmao. Here is my impression of Democrats:

I hate people that make money. I hate people that work hard. I hate people that have more than me...even though they earned it and I didn't. I hate white people and people who believe in God. I just want to sit around on my lazy ass and drink and smoke and collect welfare so that I can spend it on the important things in life like cell phones and clothes and an Escalade. I mean why should I actually take responsibility for anything in my life...I AM THE VICTIM HERE ! ! I don't care if my kids run around naked in the streets. If they want nice things, they should sign up for their own welfare. I love to blame everyone for all of my problems cause it makes me feel better than actually having to get off my fat lazy ass and do something about it.


Pretty good Huh?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Man, I am so glad I am not this stupid. Though, I bet the world would be a prettier place if I was this stupid.

I have a feeling that Detroit got his butt handed to him daily by the big ol' rural white kids in his neighborhood when he was younger. He sure hates whites and people with rural backgrounds that have pick-up trucks...lol.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Education level and IQ correlate in a conspicuous way with political ideology. Can you guess how?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Thanks for proving my point that the foundation of conservatism is selfishness and racism.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Thanks for proving my point that the foundation of conservatism is selfishness and racism.

If you are referring to my post you will see that I did not mention race at all...other than you hating whites. I am not making any assumptions on your race at all. You could be black, white, Hispanic or whatever. Secondly, I think I did point out selfishness...however it is upon the democrats. They feel that they are entitled to things they do not work for. Are you saying that conservatives are selfish because they do not want to give their hard earned money to those who do not work to better themselves? Those who do not work to earn their own ways? How is that selfish? Like I said, if anything, it proves how the liberals are selfish asking others to provide for them with this me ,me ,me entitlement attitude. Nice try Smoothie.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Education level and IQ correlate in a conspicuous way with political ideology. Can you guess how?

Please explain genius...lol. And why you are at it, maybe you should read this article. It talks about how Republicans are much happier in life than Democrats. I think that explains a lot. Besides, even if Democrats are more educated...which I don't always agree with...you are still much less successful and wealthy than Republicans...lol. We win again. God I love being rich and successful.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check?... lazy ass ... drink ... smoke ... collect welfare ... cell phones ... Escalade


Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics, relaxed regulations on industry, isolationism, Fox News, Glenn Beck, pick-em-up trucks, decreased transparency in gov't, old white people, creationism, Bill Kristol, wildly out of control military spending, anti-intellectualism, free-reign for financial fat cats, Blackwater etc., and whatever policies ensure the continued acceleration of the class division that will define America in the 21st century if we aren't careful. Also, list prestigious centers of learning in blue states vs. red states. And whats the secret of their success? Same as Wal-Mart - they promise to charge you less.

Your political beliefs boil down to thinking that all poor people have to do is "work harder" when in fact, the lower class works extemely hard, just for very little money. You have a warped perception of reality and are a bad person. Keep attending teaparty rallies, watching fox news and screaming "MINE! NO! MINE!" when tax season rolls around. Idiot.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

A link from the washington post? really? here let me link "the nation's" website for you... careful, there are some big words in the articles.

[Krimsin]

Thanks for proving my point that the foundation of conservatism is selfishness and racism.

That is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. The foundation of conservatism is protection of liberty for every individual.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Not the ostensible foundation, the functional foundation. I should have specified.

[Krimsin]

Arguing that education level means anything in terms of productivity in the real world is insanity.

College studies yield one universal: un-defaultable debt for the individual.

Detroit you've stated you work in food service. Do you do so out of necessity or out of desire? I know you have at least a bachelors.

[Krimsin]

Not the ostensible foundation, the functional foundation. I should have specified.

Lol what does the functional foundation of progressivism yield?!?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Your political beliefs boil down to thinking that all poor people have to do is "work harder" when in fact, the lower class works extemely hard, just for very little money. You have a warped perception of reality and are a bad person. Keep attending teaparty rallies, watching fox news and screaming "MINE! NO! MINE!" when tax season rolls around. Idiot.

Well then what you are saying is that the lower class is stupid. Why would you work so hard for such pathetic results? That does not make sense. Maybe they should go get a degree and make more money. And don't say they can't. We have set up so many programs where the underprivileged can get free college if the want it. Problem is they don't want it. It requires too much effort on their part. They would rather complain about being poor and ask the govt. to give them more of other peoples hard earned money.

Plus I am not a tea party member, so nice try...lol.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Lol what does the functional foundation of progressivism yield?!?

Are you trying to ask, "What is the functional foundation of progressivism?" This is an odd thing to say, since I was making a joke about how conservative politicians use platitudes about liberty and freedom (i.e. ostensible foundation), while simultaneously relying on people's selfishness and prejudice to garner real support (i.e. functional foundation). I think you may be under-equipped to continue this exchange, no? It's like talking to high-school kids on this forum...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot: Did you post that while in line for your welfare check?... lazy ass ... drink ... smoke ... collect welfare ... cell phones ... Escalade

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth:
Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics...

So what you are saying is that, when I used those words, I was referring to minorities? So you must be saying that those words apply only to minorities. Can whites not be on welfare? Is it only minorities that are lazy, drinkers, smokers, and so forth? Hmmm. Very interesting. That sir makes you the racist not me. Besides, look at your post...old white people, hillbillies really. I think you are the racist not me. Nice try Smoothie.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Thinly. Veiled.

[Slathar]

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check? lmao. Here is my impression of Democrats:

I hate people that make money. I hate people that work hard. I hate people that have more than me...even though they earned it and I didn't. I hate white people and people who believe in God. I just want to sit around on my lazy ass and drink and smoke and collect welfare so that I can spend it on the important things in life like cell phones and clothes and an Escalade. I mean why should I actually take responsibility for anything in my life...I AM THE VICTIM HERE ! ! I don't care if my kids run around naked in the streets. If they want nice things, they should sign up for their own welfare. I love to blame everyone for all of my problems cause it makes me feel better than actually having to get off my fat lazy ass and do something about it.


Pretty good Huh?

look at this fat hill billy and his racism lawl. very christian values as well. have fun dying of a coronary (aren't you like 40? gross)

[Krimsin]

Are you trying to ask, "What is the functional foundation of progressivism?" This is an odd thing to say, since I was making a joke about how conservative politicians use platitudes about liberty and freedom (i.e. ostensible foundation), while simultaneously relying on people's selfishness and prejudice to garner real support (i.e. functional foundation). I think you may be under-equipped to continue this exchange, no? It's like talking to high-school kids on this forum...

No, I'm asking what the progressive foundations yield. What does the world look like when humans operate on those ideals?

But it seems you've answered my question for me. They turn out to be self-indulgent dicks who contribute little to nothing to society. They sit, at 29, in basements collecting food stamps while working part time jobs complaining about those of us who succeed in life.

You claim concepts like liberty are mere political platitudes. That is the most cynical and ungrateful shit I've ever heard. Look at the life you lead!

I think you might be under-equipped for life. Grow a pair instead of eternally being a victim.

And by the way, from all of us who pay your way, you're fucking welcome.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I never thought I'd say this... umadbro?

[Slathar]

Well then what you are saying is that the lower class is stupid. Why would you work so hard for such pathetic results? That does not make sense. Maybe they should go get a degree and make more money. And don't say they can't. We have set up so many programs where the underprivileged can get free college if the want it. Problem is they don't want it. It requires too much effort on their part. They would rather complain about being poor and ask the govt. to give them more of other peoples hard earned money.

Plus I am not a tea party member, so nice try...lol.

provide links that lets people go to college for free.

also, poor people are poor due to circumstances they're born into (minority, low income area) these are things that they cannot change.

schools get their funding from property taxes. if you are born in a bad area you go to a school that is defunct and usually is ill-equipped.

but man, if they just "worked harder" they would surely become rich.

you're an idiot, you're fat, i have more money than you, and you're a christian (lawl)

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

provide links that lets people go to college for free.

also, poor people are poor due to circumstances they're born into (minority, low income area) these are things that they cannot change.

schools get their funding from property taxes. if you are born in a bad area you go to a school that is defunct and usually is ill-equipped.

but man, if they just "worked harder" they would surely become rich.

you're an idiot, you're fat, i have more money than you, and you're a christian (lawl)

Slathar, you do not matter to anyone in this world. Please leave it asap. You will be doing us all a favor. : ) Besides, you are probably the dumbest person I have ever seen on a forum. I only pray that you are a troll because stupidity such as yours would be tragic if it was applied to a real human being.

[Slathar]

Slathar, you do not matter to anyone in this world. Please leave it asap. You will be doing us all a favor. : ) Besides, you are probably the dumbest person I have ever seen on a forum. I only pray that you are a troll because stupidity such as yours would be tragic if it was applied to a real human being.

la la la la i cant hear you la la la

you're fat, poor and dumb lol

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Thinly. Veiled.

That's what I thought...lol. Here let me show you how a conversation usually goes with a liberal:

Liberal: Conservatism is stupid. It is full of red-necked hillbillies and old white people who believe in Jesus and watch NASCAR.

Conservative: Why would you say that? I, myself, am a college educated individual with a degree in Political Science. Let's discuss this and find out why you think this way.

Liberal: Shut up racist!

Was I close...lol.

[Krimsin]

I never thought I'd say this... umadbro?

Why invite someone to have a serious discussion about a serious topic then back down from an honest question with a smug attitude?

I'm not going to go on like Bog over here and retroll for 200 posts. But if someone is genuinely interested in conversing on a subject I find value in, I'm willing to oblige. Its just sad when someone of obvious intellect refuses to actually address a topic and instead chooses to look down their nose in some pathetic attempt to get the opposition to balk.

You want to talk about foundations, then you need to be prepared to talk about reality. Reality is the only proper measuring stick to judge the degree of human reaction to policy, everything else is hypothetical. So when you're ready, jot down your soaring purposeful progressive rhetoric, and I'll be happy to show you a laundry list of examples from history where ideas like those simply. don't. work.

[Slathar]

That's what I thought...lol. Here let me show you how a conversation usually goes with a liberal:

Liberal: Conservatism is stupid. It is full of red-necked hillbillies and old white people who believe in Jesus and watch NASCAR.

Conservative: Why would you say that? I, myself, am a college educated individual with a degree in Political Science. Let's discuss this and find out why you think this way.

Liberal: Shut up racist!

Was I close...lol.

look at this wal-mart greeter (he is over 40 years old) try to be smart

[Krimsin]

That's what I thought...lol. Here let me show you how a conversation usually goes with a liberal:

Liberal: Conservatism is stupid. It is full of red-necked hillbillies and old white people who believe in Jesus and watch NASCAR.

Conservative: Why would you say that? I, myself, am a college educated individual with a degree in Political Science. Let's discuss this and find out why you think this way.

Liberal: Shut up racist!

Was I close...lol.

Pretty much dead on. Liberal intelligence is both an oxymoron and a ponzi scheme. Nothing but a giant circle jerk.

Good luck bog, I'm out for the afternoon!

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

What does the world look like when humans operate on those ideals?



Since you don't know what the rest of the world is like, I guess I will have to use the power of raw data to educate you. Please do not respond until you can define the Lorenz curve.
Winning arguments is simultaneously easy and hard when one side has no grip on reality.

http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2010

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html

http://www.allcountries.org/ranks/prison_incarceration_rates_of_countries_2007.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

[Slathar]

Pretty much dead on. Liberal intelligence is both an oxymoron and a ponzi scheme. Nothing but a giant circle jerk.

Good luck bog, I'm out for the afternoon!

sigh if only everyone would hate all non-white, non-english speaking people who aren't christians like us the world would be a better place.

get the fuck out of here deadbeat. the best part is that america is going to be a MAJORITY latino in the next 20 years. these GOP poster boys will be shitting their pants in their shantys in nebraska and arkansas as they hold their weekly clan rallies at their local church (aka pedophile relocation program)

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Aw, did i just waste time looking up those links? damn.

[Exxon]

Well then what you are saying is that the lower class is stupid. Why would you work so hard for such pathetic results? That does not make sense. Maybe they should go get a degree and make more money. And don't say they can't. We have set up so many programs where the underprivileged can get free college if the want it. Problem is they don't want it. It requires too much effort on their part. They would rather complain about being poor and ask the govt. to give them more of other peoples hard earned money.

Plus I am not a tea party member, so nice try...lol.
Wow you really are a fucking idiot aren't you?

There's just not enough high paying jobs to support all the people with the education required for such positions. Are you really that dense? Do you really think that everybody that goes on to complete their college education ends up working in their field of study with nice 200k+/yr jobs?

You can't see how fucked up this country is when clowns like Glenn Beck make 7mil a year (that we know of) to spout bullshit on camera, but the hard working construction manager who busts his ass all day all year long barely breaks 90k?

The world must be a wonderful magical place for you if you believe all that "everybody can be rich if they want to be" bullshit that you've been fed. Because it's statistically impossible.

Keep watching your fox news and reading your Washington post.
Grats on being "rich and successful", asshole.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Wow you really are a fucking idiot aren't you?

There's just not enough high paying jobs to support all the people with the education required for such positions. Are you really that dense? Do you really think that everybody that goes on to complete their college education ends up working in their field of study with nice 200k+/yr jobs?

You can't see how fucked up this country is when clowns like Glenn Beck make 7mil a year (that we know of) to spout bullshit on camera, but the hard working construction manager who busts his ass all day all year long barely breaks 90k?

The world must be a wonderful magical place for you if you believe all that "everybody can be rich if they want to be" bullshit that you've been fed. Because it's statistically impossible.

Keep watching your fox news and reading your Washington post.
Grats on being "rich and successful", asshole.

If first you don't agree, then call the person a fucking idiot...lol. Real mature. I do believe that anyone can make as much as they want if they work hard for it. You use Glen Beck as an example (don't know why you libs are all about him, but whatever). I will use Lebron James. The guy has a high school education. He grew up poor. He worked hard at becoming the best at what he does. He now makes about 40 million a year. My father grew up rather poor. He has some college education, but no degree. He cleared 2 million last year (at 65). Why? Hard work. The point is liberals do not know what hard work is. Either that or they are stupid...you pick.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Anecdotal evidence. Last refuge of the perpetually incorrect.

[Slathar]

If first you don't agree, then call the person a fucking idiot...lol. Real mature. I do believe that anyone can make as much as they want if they work hard for it. You use Glen Beck as an example (don't know why you libs are all about him, but whatever). I will use Lebron James. The guy has a high school education. He grew up poor. He worked hard at becoming the best at what he does. He now makes about 40 million a year. My father grew up rather poor. He has some college education, but no degree. He cleared 2 million last year (at 65). Why? Hard work. The point is liberals do not know what hard work is. Either that or they are stupid...you pick.

hey guys look at how successful MY DAD is. this guy is like a walking cliche of republican smugness.

using lebron james as a fucking example? are you kidding me? why not use albert einstein to demonstrate how "anyone can do maths?"

go back to your fantasy land in your midwestern suburban hellhole

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

If first you don't agree, then call the person a fucking idiot.


I was the one who called you an idiot. He called you an asshole. Think there're strong arguments for both though.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Ah to bathe in the insults of liberal rage...lol. You guys are amusing to me. Oh and BTW the only time that you matter in my world is when I need a clean fork and my lawn mowed...lol. Suck on that you lazy assed POS...lol.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

My family is richer than yours. Just sayin. And my Dad retired at 55 because hes better than your dad. And I went to a better school than you. And, clearly, I am smarter than you. Its sad that you look down upon people that didn't have millionaire parents. You are the worst kind of trash. I also didn't pick this up in earlier posts, but if you are in fact a practicing christian, you score even more points for awfulness, as your posts demonstrate the polar opposite of the christian ethos.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

My family is richer than yours. Just sayin. And my Dad retired at 55 because hes better than your dad. And I went to a better school than you. And, clearly, I am smarter than you. Its sad that you look down upon people that didn't have millionaire parents. You are the worst kind of trash. I also didn't pick this up in earlier posts, but if you are in fact a practicing christian, you score even more points for awfulness, as your posts demonstrate the polar opposite of the christian ethos.

Your so cute...now go get me a clean fork boy.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

That's the best you can do?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

That's the best you can do?

I didn't give you permission to talk back to me. Now where is my damn fork?

:D

[muddy27]

Hey Boggwin no one cares how much your dad made if it was 2 million or 60 billions money isnt everything in life. You say the lower class dont want to try well you know what some of them are smarter than hell and realize the cards are being played against them. If you knew what I know then you wouldnt be saying anything like that. You wont need money where were going but I do hope you have a stock of food, survival knowledge and some guns and ammo. There are some things money cant buy. I know a guy that writes a blog that lives without money just plain flatout doesent use it. He HAS! a college degree but chooses to live his life like that, he travels around anyway he can get around or on foot and uses public access has a crapload of friends and is happy as can be. Unless you break free like that guy did WE ARE ALL just slaves to the system working to bring in the almighty dollar so we can consume consume consume.

Meet the Man Who Lives on Zero Dollars
http://www.details.com/culture-trends/career-and-money/200907/meet-the-man-who-lives-on-zero-dollars

His Blog Site
http://zerocurrency.blogspot.com/

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

That is the best you can do. I weep for the species.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

That is the best you can do. I weep for the species.

You weep on your own damn time boy. Now get me my fork.

[Slathar]

You weep on your own damn time boy. Now get me my fork.

notice how his insults revolve around service? this is classic projection of emotion. he is more than likely in the service industry and resentful of people who are better than him (probably most minorities in his area) so he uses this as an insult.

it is cute when an old man (he is over 40 years old) tries to rationalize his existence through hatred, racism and christianity (pedophilia).

very sad.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

And his Dad, don't forget about that. He worked hard.

[Slathar]

he is an old man who plays everquest. i wouldnt expect much maturity out of someone who plays a fantasy role playing game into middle age. lawl.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

he is an old man who plays everquest. i wouldnt expect much maturity out of someone who plays a fantasy role playing game into middle age. lawl.

Slathar...chivato...go make me a burrito.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

And his Dad, don't forget about that. He worked hard.

At least I know who my dad is...lol. Detroit. Is that you whiteboi rapper name you use in da hood hommie? Lawl.

[Hasbinbad]

My dad TOTALLY owns a dealership.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6472/skeetersd8.png

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Heh. Hommie. No one likes you.

[muddy27]

At least I know who my dad is...lol. Detroit. Is that you whiteboi rapper name you use in da hood hommie? Lawl.

Why dont you quit with the shit insults, I take what you said offensively in some ways. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a father who was around in there life as I havent seen my father since I was 8. So why dont you quit pushing buttons and just quit talking.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Heh. Hommie. No one likes you.

Smoothie, no matter how much you ask in private message, I will not be your boyfriend so stop asking. I am married to a woman. I am sorry you cannot understand that.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

hey boggwin ... http://youlose.ytmnd.com/

[Slathar]

Hey smoothie king, can you spin me some records...lol. You so gansta. I betcha got all da bitches waitin fo you huh? Lawl. Do you wear your baseball hat backward too? I wish I could see that. Skinny little white boy pretending to be black...hating on his own race...acting like he knows other people cultures better than they do...what a joke...lawl.

this guy is a goldmine of crazy. i like how he thinks he is better than people because of money (that he does not have)

he has no education except what he learned from jesus. keep pretending to be rich to the internet, old man (he is over 40 years of age folks)

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

How old is he?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Also, I think I have to put some of that in my sig...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Is that a link to you newest rap video? I can't wait to watch it. Now are you going to be driving your dad's Audi or your mother's Cadillac in the video? Also, do you actually know any of the black people that are in it or are they just props to give you some more street cred? This is going to be great...lol.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

this guy is a goldmine of crazy. i like how he thinks he is better than people because of money (that he does not have)

he has no education except what he learned from jesus. keep pretending to be rich to the internet, old man (he is over 40 years of age folks)

Hey "help", I forgot more during the time I have spent ITT than you will know your whole life. Go back to the welfare line and flippin burgers with you friends Slather. Oh BTW people he lives in his parents basement and beats off to gay porn...lazy assed POS. Get a move on the lawn now Pedro. lmao.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

How old is he?

Slather has no idea how old I am. He post shit like that thinking that he will get a rise out of me. The only thing he may get from me is a shiny nickle when he gets done with my lawn.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I like how he gets all racist when hes flustered and angry. I think he actually thought he was going to make me mad. Like that's even possible.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I like how he gets all racist when hes flustered and angry. I think he actually thought he was going to make me mad. Like that's even possible.

the fact that you mentioned not getting mad means I got you mad....hahahahaha. Nice try racist POS.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Uh, yeah.

[Slathar]

Slather has no idea how old I am. He post shit like that thinking that he will get a rise out of me. The only thing he may get from me is a shiny nickle when he gets done with my lawn.

he has stated in other threads that he is 39 years old. i exaggerated this to enrage the fat slob. look at how racist this guy is.

keep pretending to be rich fatty :)

ps i have more money than you.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

The post in my sig is like the whitest thing i've ever read. I like the white power touch with the "hating on his own race" line. Stay proud aryan brother!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

he has stated in other threads that he is 39 years old. i exaggerated this to enrage the fat slob. look at how racist this guy is.

keep pretending to be rich fatty :)

ps i have more money than you.

165 lbs is not fat Slather. It is about the same as your lower left leg...lol. And yes I am 39 not 40. And I am not racist...I just hate poor people and those who don't try in life (ironically they usually tend to be minorites, but I don't like the pink one either)...kinda like you...lawl.

I am out....should have been long ago, but I need to go count my money...haha. Just kidding...not really though.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

The post in my sig is like the whitest thing i've ever read. I like the white power touch with the "hating on his own race" line. Stay proud aryan brother!

Awww...why did you get rid of your awesome lyrics dude? Ashamed that it made you look like a complete douche...lol.

[Slathar]

165 lbs is not fat Slather. It is about the same as your lower left leg...lol. And yes I am 39 not 40. And I am not racist...I just hate poor people and those who don't try in life (ironically they usually tend to be minorites, but I don't like the pink one either)...kinda like you...lawl.

I am out....should have been long ago, but I need to go count my money...haha. Just kidding...not really though.

you're fat as fuck and i have more money than you. also 39? lol disgusting.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

At least I had some fun and got a new sig. High five!

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

now im going to go roll Smoothie King, erudite warrior.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

now im going to go roll Smoothie King, erudite warrior.

Man I am sorry dude. Is that picture in your profile you? I guess I was wrong about you being a white douche bag. Your just an ordinary hood rat...lol. Black power friend! Now roll that Erudite warrior and be proud...haha.

[Randy]

Hey morons, you can't be an erudite warrior

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

yeah, i guess not. that's racist.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

yeah, i guess not. that's racist.

Everything is racist to you huh? I guess that is how you get by in this world. Play the race card at every turn...lmao. Priceless.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Boggwin shut up already... you are just making it worse. And adding to my sig. nm... keep going bro.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Boggwin shut up already... you are just making it worse. And adding to my sig. nm... keep going bro.

Don't worry I already asked to have then removed.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

ROFL awesome, that makes my afternoon. Can't stand by the idiotic things you say. Sweet.

[Slathar]

Don't worry I already asked to have then removed.

look at this racist, pretend-rich guy. just look at 'em. he'd be cute if he wasn't an old man playing a fantasy role playing game (fyi, he is 39 years old)

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

ROFL awesome, that makes my afternoon. Can't stand by the idiotic things you say. Sweet.

Really? Would you like it if I made a sig with you rant about how you hate hillbillies and old white people and how you are a racist. I can if you want. I just choose to keep it ITT not all over the forums like a little baby. We'll see what happens, but I did report it. :D

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

look at this racist, pretend-rich guy. just look at 'em. he'd be cute if he wasn't an old man playing a fantasy role playing game (fyi, he is 39 years old)

Slathar. Please remember...you don't matter to anyone little one. Now go play with you toys and do your homework. :)

[Slathar]

Slathar. Please remember...you don't matter to anyone little one. Now go play with you toys and do your homework. :)

you're old, not rich, and dumb.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

you're old, not rich, and dumb.

Your just plain jealous...lol.

[Slathar]

Your just plain jealous...lol.

*you're

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

*you're

Walabaego said:

Worst Forum Troll Ever. Delete all profiles on my Internet please. You fail so hard that I had to let you know again. Be gone cancer!

KilyenaMage said:

Go get fucked in the asshole, Slathar.

Go troll somewhere else.....TROLL ! !

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Quote on, beotch.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Quote on, beotch.

Not lowering myself to that level, beside that would look bad after having reported you for the same thing...hehe. What a joke you must be to all who know you in rl. Have fun being a racist.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Or maybe because I didn't say anything quotable?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Or maybe because I didn't say anything quotable?

I am sure I can paste something together....lol.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

That was the intention. Should be good for some more laughs.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Boggwin ITT - (nsfw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjUNF_R_PY
amirite?

[muddy27]

Sad when human beings cant get along.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

He started it.

[Slathar]

Boggwin ITT - (nsfw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjUNF_R_PY
amirite?

im going to disagree with you. he'd never be in a position where anyone would listen to him. maybe better would be a priest found guilty of molesting children. sounds like he has a lot of pent up criminal homosexuality in his old heart.

[Rogean]

This isn't rants and flames.