Tier 2 Warrior Haste - Straight for Cloak of Flames?

[evanderheide]

Hello everyone!

Well, here I am again with one of my questions about upgrading gear for my new Warrior. Thanks to everyone in advance of this post; I've found the advice on the Silver Chitin Hand Wraps fantastic - really glad I went with the SCHW and Mithril Plated Girth combo for now - they're performing excellently at a very reasonable price (total of 2.85k for my hands and waste).

My question now is - for upgrading Haste items, should I start saving 80-90k straight for Cloak of Flames OR is there an intermediary item that is worth it as a stop gap between SCHW and CoF that is REALLY worth it? My sense is that it's smarter to simply save straight for CoF since for now most of my gear can really only be upgraded by Thurgadin Quest Armor or something kind of niche (Earring of Essence for example).

My plan in the 53+ range is to spend a lot of time grouping in Old Sebilis grinding cash and items to sell.

In case it impacts any advice anyone has, here's my current gear. As I'm guessing you'll see, there aren't a ton of items that I desperately need to replace or won't be serviceable - if there are let me know!

Cougar / Orc Fang Earring
Crested Helm
Barbed Ringmail
Glimmering Mithril Torque
Peerless Dragonskin Mask
Cloak of the Maelstrom
Velium Fire Wedding Rings
Silver Chitin Hand Wraps
Mithril Plated Girth
Heavy Dragonleg Breeches
Barbed Dragonscale Boots
Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine
Frostbringer

Let me know! Do I save for Cloak of Flames or take a pit stop at Runed Bolster Belt Runebranded Girdle, Spined Seahorse Hide Belt, or Cloak of Crystalline Waters? Are those intermediary items sufficiently cheap and improvements in performance that it's worth buying them as stop gap items?

[RDawg816]

Generally speaking, you can usually "invest" in haste items and resell them later. That being said, I imagine haste items will drop in price soon. They are patching epic haste in the near future. I imagine a lot of people (rogues, mostly) are going to sell their CoF etc. since they won't need it for backstabs afterwards. Some people have started selling them around 70k range already.

If I were you, I'd just start saving and buy something after the patch. SCHW are fine for now. :)

[evanderheide]

Oh that's cool - I didn't think of how sellable haste items are, but I see what you mean.

That being said, sound like with the coming patch, you agree that I'm better off holding out for a CoF at even 70k then a CoCW at like 50K, correct?

Thanks!

[RDawg816]

That being said, sound like with the coming patch, you agree that I'm better off holding out for a CoF at even 70k then a CoCW at like 50K, correct?
Yes. Fire and hp are better than cold and mana (especially on a warrior)

[Rang]

I personally think Lodi shield + runed bolster belt is the best 2nd tier haste combo for warrior but just my 2cp

[evanderheide]

I personally think Lodi shield + runed bolster belt is the best 2nd tier haste combo for warrior but just my 2cp

Damn that's interesting. I just did the math a but and I see what you mean.

Basically the question is...

Blood Runed Girdle + Cloak of Flames = 23 AC 36 % Haste 15 STR 24 AGI 9 DEX 50 HP 15 SvF
Lodizal Shell Shield + Runed Bolster Belt = 28 AC 31% Haste 20 STR 10 STA 10 DEX 5 CHA 10 WIS -5 AGI 20 SvC 20 SvF 10 SvM

I'd be inclined towards the former but the latter is probably better for raiding where high resists are more in demand. From some quick math, I'm thinking the different in attack rates is likely something in the 1-2 tenths of a second.

Anyone else have an opinion on that comparison specifically or have any experience in that match up?

[evanderheide]

Correction, Blood Runed Girdle and Cloak of Flames would be 24 AC

[RDawg816]

Lodi Shield is a great item. Going that route, you would lose a little haste, but then you could do your sky quest belt for 41% haste and you wouldn't have to swap your gear around. I know the guild you're looking to join does Sky. Have you looked at the quest?

[evanderheide]

No, I'll check it out! The more I think about it, the Bolster Belt option is probably the right way to go. As you said, belt haste seems to be the smartest approach with the least gear switching involved, and the more i think about it, the Lodi Shield resists sound REALLY nice the more tanking I do.

[Freakish]

Good luck, efreeti belt still highly sought after as it only drops from the noble cycle.

[evanderheide]

Yeah - another option that I only just realized would fit into the whole belt haste thing is Spiked Seahorse Hide - which would be 3% more haste, 5 more AC, but -6 str, -6 dex and probably ABOUT equal on HP (4 STA 25 HP vs 10 STA).

[RDawg816]

I wouldn't be concerned with 6str/dex. You can max that with like 135...

[evanderheide]

Good point.

Well bottom line, guess it's time for me start saving for some belt haste - RBB or SSHB! In either case, I think Lodizal Shell Shield is a must-have for a warrior given the resists and the higher AC.

[Naethyn]

Get a cof you won't regret it.

[Metalord]

I'm currently in the same boat as you are Evanderheide. I'm using an RBB with a Cloak of the Maelstorm in my back slot on my Warrior. As far as my weapons go, I'm using an Infestation in my primary and a WESS in my off hand. I don't usually have much agro issues until I'm grouped with people with a better haste item than myself I.E. CoF or Cloak of Rakusha. I have been tossing up the notion of selling my RBB and buying a CoF, but I don't think that 5% haste will be worth the stat and raw hp loss from my current set up.

[Naethyn]

Cof + Spider Fur Belt or Blood Runed Girdle > RBB + Maelstrom

[Metalord]

Cof + Spider Fur Belt or Blood Runed Girdle > RBB + Maelstrom

Those are some interesting combo's there Naethyn. I'm sure glad that you always seem to shed light on the grey area's of this game. Looks like I just might have to give Seb a break and hit up Velks for a while.

[RDawg816]

Cof + Spider Fur Belt
That's what my warrior uses. It's nice.

[evanderheide]

Yeah I'm going back and forth on which pairing is better. Basically, if you're going belt haste, you're long term going to want a Lodi Shield.

If you go CoF, you're going Spider Fur or Blood Runed.

Naethyn is making me go back and forth. The good part is I've only got 4k saved at this point so I have plenty of time to think about it. CoF does seem really nice

[evanderheide]

Btw Metalord, you're literally future me. I currently have a WESS and Frostbringer, until I get an Infestation, and have a Maelstrom Cloak for back slot. If I go ahead with my plan I'll have an RBB too :). Small world warrior gearing....

[Metalord]

Indeed it is Evanderheide, it's not easy gearing a War, takes a bunch of plat, and until you can get in a guild that can get end game mobs, our gear pretty much stays the same.