What's the Guild Atmosphere these days?

[Cars]

Returning player coming back wth some friends. Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out. Who's the top dawgs? What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc. Who's the new TMO?

[teija]

Who's the top dawgs?

Awakened and Aftermath

A-Team+IB = Rampage+ Taken = Awakened
TMO=Forsaken + Asgard = Aftermath



What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc.

Anonymous,Venerate, Fires of Heaven or one of the "CSG's" Azure Guard/Omni/Europa if you just want to get your feet wet.

Who's the new TMO?

There is no new "TMO", No one single guild controls 100% of velious. Every guild has the same opportunity to secure raid content. Awakened and Aftermath go back and forth taking about a 50/50 split of about 90%+ of velious content tho.

Welcome back to the server!

[Gimp]

There's several old school hardcore people that don't do the 24/7 batphone anymore in Rustle.

If you're not looking to hardcore neckbeard on a dead end server, they're probably your best bet.

You'll have to excuse Happy for omitting them, he's still mad about something or another

[Tankdan]

Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out.

Velious launched here almost 2 years ago so the field has changed just in this expansion alone. <Rampage> dominated most of Velious before waking the Sleeper 15 months ago. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227097

I think Rampage got 25 of the first 25 Vulak's and 37 of the first 40 Zlandicars before Forsaken (and sometimes Forsaken/Asgard/Taken alliance) gained traction, causing burnout by Rampage members and a desire to wake the Sleeper and move on with life.

When that happened, many Rampage decided to quit the game or slowly fade away from P99. For the Rampage that wanted to keep raiding Velious content, <Awakened> was formed by non-officers of Rampage alongside <Taken> which merged the remaining players from those guilds together.

Aftermath and Awakened have the most players showing up and are the most willing to no-life P99 content in 2017, and this hasn't changed over the last year or so. They can each get 50-70+ people online within an hours' time during prime time hours, and they still batphone raids at 4am or 11am on a Tuesday.

Rustle has many ex-Rampage/IB hardcore types combined with newer raiders, but the guild is smaller in numbers so they pick and choose what they go for and when they go for it. They are more willing to compete for harder targets/zones than smaller guilds, but they make sure to limit the poopsocking.

Anon, CSG, Venerate, FOH, and others make up the rest. They have plenty to raid, but are far less likely to be seen poopsocking a starting line than A/A. They also get to slaughter Kunark on top of their Velious raids. If you don't want to treat P99 raiding like an on-call job, this is where most people find home.

There is still no Class C/R/FFA rotation for Velious. That has been substituted by GMs suspending A/A every couple of weeks for "violations" and letting the other guilds have at it.

[Lukeass]

Curious, where does clue fall in all of this?

[Expediency]

People on the server have four options:

1. Hardcore: A/A are only two in this category. Tend to require 58+
2. Organized casual raiding: CSG/FAV/rustle . Guilds in this category have lots of people but are not hardcore and limit racing/poopsocking. Also target kunark more than a/a. Tend to require 46+
CSG is a long term alliance of the guilds Azure Guard, Omni, and Europa. We can turn out a/a type numbers (or more) during our primetimes but we are far more casual and limit poopsocking. We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.
FAV has a similar strategy to CSG.
Rustle is smaller, seems to target mobs during a smaller window than the other two, but has more semi retired pros on their roster and can bring the heat when they decide they want to.
3. Large casual guilds: These will raid but are less organized and often have no minimum level requirement or batphone. Typically very friendly players who have no interest in hardcore anything. Veloci shift and clue are good examples.
4. Unaffiliated/tiny guild: P99 staff ignores the live rule of 10 people minimum in a guild. There are loads of guilds with only a few people in them. If you want a very small atmosphere, join or found one of these guilds.

Curious, where does clue fall in all of this?

Clue is fairly large and has friendly and helpful people but they are not nearly as organized as others their size.

[Maner]

We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.

wasn't the last suspension due to CSG lawyerquesting?

[Freakish]

I think it was due to Aftermath training another raid force.

[Maner]

I think it was due to Aftermath training another raid force.

which was petitioned and lawyerquested by CSG

[Lhancelot]

wasn't the last suspension due to CSG lawyerquesting?

Stop trolling here. They are asking questions about guilds, not the toxic behavior some of you raiders exhibit, in fact the same toxic behavior you are exhibiting in this thread.

[Lukeass]

Okay, so I'm looking into a not hardcore poopsock guild. I do want to raid, and do things like get my epic going. FoH I know is Fires of Heaven. What are the other two? (non acronym so I can actually look them up please)

-Thanks

[icedwards]

CSG which stands for Casual Scum Guild - an alliance between the three guilds Omni, Azure Guard and Europa.

Rustle is an independent guild who'll occasionally pair up with other guilds to down more difficult content.

FV is the Fires of Heaven / Venerate alliance.

A/A are your hardcore guilds - Awakened and Aftermath.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

People on the server have four options:

1. Hardcore: A/A are only two in this category. Tend to require 58+
2. Organized casual raiding: CSG/FAV/rustle . Guilds in this category have lots of people but are not hardcore and limit racing/poopsocking. Also target kunark more than a/a. Tend to require 46+
CSG is a long term alliance of the guilds Azure Guard, Omni, and Europa. We can turn out a/a type numbers (or more) during our primetimes but we are far more casual and limit poopsocking. We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.
FAV has a similar strategy to CSG.
Rustle is smaller, seems to target mobs during a smaller window than the other two, but has more semi retired pros on their roster and can bring the heat when they decide they want to.
3. Large casual guilds: These will raid but are less organized and often have no minimum level requirement or batphone. Typically very friendly players who have no interest in hardcore anything. Veloci shift and clue are good examples.
4. Unaffiliated/tiny guild: P99 staff ignores the live rule of 10 people minimum in a guild. There are loads of guilds with only a few people in them. If you want a very small atmosphere, join or found one of these guilds.



Clue is fairly large and has friendly and helpful people but they are not nearly as organized as others their size.

And then there's Auld Lang Syne ;)

[Bohab]

While A/A may be considered 'hardcore' it's fair to mention their no compete clauses with each other for many top end raid targets. Furthermore the fact they will team up on more difficult targets such as AoW on occasion. They are basically an alliance hoping to trivialize end game raid competition.

I believe the only real hardcore thing about top guilds these days is their around the clock playtime. They are stacked with hundreds of casual players following the lead of a few 'hardcore' players.

[Convict]

While A/A may be considered 'hardcore' it's fair to mention their no compete clauses with each other for many top end raid targets. Furthermore the fact they will team up on more difficult targets such as AoW on occasion. They are basically an alliance hoping to trivialize end game raid competition.

I believe the only real hardcore thing about top guilds these days is their around the clock playtime. They are stacked with hundreds of casual players following the lead of a few 'hardcore' players.
Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

[Tupakk]

I can't Believe nobody has brought up Hyrda. They raid have big numbers and are casual raiders.

Black Heart Pirates , Paradox , SOTS ( that is their guild name)

[Erati]

Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

This could not be a more uninformed post. A/A compete for every mob that is associated with a FTE race hour lock.

/shrug Define the guilds how you will, but you cant judge what an experience is until you try it.

[teija]

Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

as Eratani said, You are obviously clueless about the topic you just wrote a paragraph on.

[Convict]

lol ok so my first hand experience of not seeing you guys once since the double suspension contest eachother for a single CT, Trak, Klandi/Zlandi repop in the past month is wrong and I'm just clueless and /who has been lying to me, not to mention on several occasions teaming up for Staute/AoW and Vulak for what should be the most contested targets on the server.

[Maner]

Stop trolling here. They are asking questions about guilds, not the toxic behavior some of you raiders exhibit, in fact the same toxic behavior you are exhibiting in this thread.

Stating a fact isn't trolling. And the fact that CSG is making stuff up is a pretty good way to judge them as a group of guilds. Pushing misinformation is trolling, stating the truth is not.

lol ok so my first hand experience of not seeing you guys once since the double suspension contest eachother for a single CT, Trak, Klandi/Zlandi repop in the past month is wrong and I'm just clueless and /who has been lying to me, not to mention on several occasions teaming up for Staute/AoW and Vulak for what should be the most contested targets on the server.

You actually said "don't contest each other at all anymore". The mobs you listed don't even make up1/4 of the velious spawns. But now you're actually trying to justify your generalization by bringing up a couple of examples?


Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

The actual deal is that instead of petitioning each other, they will work it out themselves. This is basically due to the attitude of the other more casual guilds. It's also easier to be able to camp a full force out for one target rather than splitting your forces over 2-3 different targets, which has the added benefit of also making it easier to keep everything in the hands of A/A. Now your "first hand experience" really doesn't mean anything.

[raato]

This could not be a more uninformed post. A/A compete for every mob that is associated with a FTE race hour lock.

/shrug Define the guilds how you will, but you cant judge what an experience is until you try it.

So you rotate everything else except ToV and Kael? :) I was wondering why there has been only one A at CT for last few respawns. That explains it.

[Maner]

So you rotate everything else except ToV and Kael? :) I was wondering why there has been only one A at CT for last few respawns. That explains it.

Not everything else....

[Nuggie]

@the OP,

The responses here pretty much sum things up. One group says something halfway reasonable then another groups spit's venom and acid. Keep the tones of the conversation in mind. ;)

[Gimp]

@the OP,

The responses here pretty much sum things up. One group says something halfway reasonable then another groups spit's venom and acid. Keep the tones of the conversation in mind. ;)

to be more appropriate, it's one group of people says one thing, then A/A always chime in with the "LOL YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT, FILTHY NEWB LOL" type response.

[loramin]

to be more appropriate, it's one group of people says one thing, then A/A always chime in with the "LOL YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT, FILTHY NEWB LOL" type response.

Some guilds may be bigger offenders than others, but it's so prevalent I'd imagine every guild (yes, even Aud Laud Sang!) has at least one member who yells craziness about the raid scene in the forums.

[Maner]

Some guilds may be bigger offenders than others, but it's so prevalent I'd imagine every guild (yes, even Aud Laud Sang!) has at least one member who yells craziness about the raid scene in the forums.

That is what happens when a majority of the misinformation is being spread about the same entities.


to be more appropriate, it's one group of people says one thing, then A/A always chime in with the "LOL YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT, FILTHY NEWB LOL" type response.

I don't see anyone calling someone a filthy noob, just correcting the misinformation, being spread by people who don't know what they are talking about. No one is sating you're wrong because you're anything though...

[Gimp]

That is what happens when a majority of the misinformation is being spread about the same entities.




I don't see anyone calling someone a filthy noob, just correcting the misinformation, being spread by people who don't know what they are talking about. No one is sating you're wrong because you're anything though...

humor me, what "misinformation" do you see?

and I like how y'all always go to the "well you don't know what you're talking about" line when it's painfully obvious to anyone with half of a brain what's happening. But still, humor me sir.

[Lhancelot]

Returning player coming back wth some friends. Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out. Who's the top dawgs? What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc. Who's the new TMO?

In my opinion, if you want to accomplish the most regarding raids that involve the top tier mobs you should research Awakened, Aftermath, and Rustle.

These three guilds accomplish the most regarding the biggest loots.

If you are looking for casual grouping and are not concerned about getting the best loots available on P99, there are tons of guilds that cater to this type of gameplay...

Of the three top guilds I have met more Awakened players recently through random groupings while leveling alts and to be honest, they have left me with good impressions.

[Maner]

humor me, what "misinformation" do you see?

and I like how y'all always go to the "well you don't know what you're talking about" line when it's painfully obvious to anyone with half of a brain what's happening. But still, humor me sir.

Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

Is the prime example in this thread.... Where did anyone call him a filthy noob?

[Naethyn]

All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).
End game on this server is about the same as a drunken gnome race GM event.

What a joke!

You guys have a 30 page thread measuring e-peens over this BS?

LOL!

Bring back live pulls.

[Convict]

The actual deal is that instead of petitioning each other, they will work it out themselves. This is basically due to the attitude of the other more casual guilds.

Not sure what you mean by attitude but by and large on every occasion the casual guilds are very friendly with A/A guilds congratulating them in /ooc and everything when A/A beats them to targets, and conceding targets if they accidentally train an A/A guild (like exactly what happened on dracoliche this last CT pop)

keep everything in the hands of A/A

So just toxic leadership in the top raid guilds as always... thanks for confirming my earlier posts rofl

[Llodd]

A/A rotation is real!

How can other guilds join the rotation?

[Nommis]

https://i.imgur.com/DxJxjsl.gif

[Tuljin]

There's several old school hardcore people that don't do the 24/7 batphone anymore in Rustle.

If you're not looking to hardcore neckbeard on a dead end server, they're probably your best bet.

You'll have to excuse Happy for omitting them, he's still mad about something or another

lol

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

So just toxic leadership in the top raid guilds as always... thanks for confirming my earlier posts rofl

I figured out this dude was a sycophantic pixel-hungry coattail rider from day one. My vote was always a big fat NO but I guess everyone else has to learn for themselves, right?

If anybody wants one of their "leaders" to be somebody who doesn't even understand basic EQ gameplay mechanics and couldn't level a Cleric from 50-60 in Kunark without a Chardok AOE powerlevel, go ahead and sign up for one of the "raid" guilds. That's the "guild atmosphere" these days, to answer OP's question.

Have a nice summer, nerds. Maybe we can get a tan this year?

[Maner]

Not sure what you mean by attitude but by and large on every occasion the casual guilds are very friendly with A/A guilds congratulating them in /ooc and everything when A/A beats them to targets, and conceding targets if they accidentally train an A/A guild (like exactly what happened on dracoliche this last CT pop)



So just toxic leadership in the top raid guilds as always... thanks for confirming my earlier posts rofl

I said it helps keep everything away from the casuals. Pretty sure rustle still got doze and cek this week. Why would the bigger guilds want to help the smaller guilds in anyway after the attitude they get from them?

Wanting to get the most each week for your guild is only toxic to people like you who lose each week and don't get anything. No one congratulates anyone in ToV so I'm not sure where you're getting any of you information.

No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value. And to handle petition between A/A in house so we don't give the casuals more welfare pixels. You can pretty much thank guilds like FoH and the CSG collective for pushing A/A to this arrangement.

[FatMice]

Maner. Please. For your sanity. Stop.

[Maner]

The least you could do zoole is disprove my claims if they are so incorrect. But it appears you have been sucked into the rustle rabbit hole and just deflect without actually saying anything...

Keep on doing more with less until it's proven it's actually doing less with more, then deflect and run away... the rustle way

[FatMice]

I have been sucked so deep that I just don't care to give you my 2 cents. I just think you have better things to do on the internet.

[Bones]

This could not be a more uninformed post. A/A compete for every mob that is associated with a FTE race hour lock.

/shrug Define the guilds how you will, but you cant judge what an experience is until you try it.

So A/A only compete on the mario-kart style FTE foot race targets but not on the targets that require any actual mobilization or real competition that don't follow the FTE 1 hour lock out rule?

gotcha.

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/DxJxjsl.gif

man that gif is hilarious. never seen it before. :p

[Gimp]

That is what happens when a majority of the misinformation is being spread about the same entities.




I don't see anyone calling someone a filthy noob, just correcting the misinformation, being spread by people who don't know what they are talking about. No one is sating you're wrong because you're anything though...

Claiming people don't know what they're talking about when they're outlining exactly what's happening is the adult way of saying they're a filthy newb or whatever I said earlier.

Don't act like there's some fucking super secret society that holds all of the p99 secrets. A simple /who or zone in to certain zones will tell you everything you need to know. Yes, you still race for FTE on most of the 1 hour FTE lockout mobs, because most of them require like <30 people to kill (see Rustle for examples on doing more with less).

But you dickheads have spent the last year hammering this "we only play for the competition" nonsense and then you turn around and start teaming up on some of the big boy mobs. God forbid someone decides to call y'all out on your hypocritical bullshit.

[srgraham69]

The consensus seems to be to join Aftermath or Awakened if you want to have fun, otherwise you will just come to these forums to complain about how they are able to adapt and continue to have a good time.

[Maner]

Claiming people don't know what they're talking about when they're outlining exactly what's happening is the adult way of saying they're a filthy newb or whatever I said earlier.

Don't act like there's some fucking super secret society that holds all of the p99 secrets. A simple /who or zone in to certain zones will tell you everything you need to know. Yes, you still race for FTE on most of the 1 hour FTE lockout mobs, because most of them require like <30 people to kill (see Rustle for examples on doing more with less).

But you dickheads have spent the last year hammering this "we only play for the competition" nonsense and then you turn around and start teaming up on some of the big boy mobs. God forbid someone decides to call y'all out on your hypocritical bullshit.

You must lead one terrible life if you think someone is making assumptions and generalizations about you every time they tell you that you're wrong about something, which I am sure happens often. Just because you view someone as a "filthy noob" whenever they are wrong doesn't mean normal people do... stop projecting

That list of kills that Cecily posted to try and prove rustle does more with less was actually proven to be doing less with more. Just like how rustle excuses its 50-70 person prime time raids as, "we cant tell people not to show" it is the exact same for A/A. Its funny that you actually think A/A cant do the same fights with the same numbers that you "claim" rustle uses.

its not exactly what is happening, that is why its misinformation.... How dare A/A team up with each other instead of with rustle or someone else? So in reality you're upset because those pixels aren't going to be handed to you anymore?

A/A still races against each other for EVERY 1 hour FTE mob actually. Again you're just reinforcing the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. Didn't A/A compete against rustle for Dain this week? and AoW before that?

[Gimp]

I don't say this often, but I guess it finally applies.

You are literally too stupid to insult. It's obvious you're too immersed to ever see the logic of anyone's counter-arguments. Have fun blocking those filthy casuals on pixels while teaming up with the guild you dumbfucks loathed and shittalked at every opportunity since their inception. The thought of Feign, Fingerz, and Breaken teaming up with Detoxx is just too funny. The hypocrisy is so fucking strong, but your tiny mind will never admit to it.

Agnarr soon at least

[Maner]

I don't say this often, but I guess it finally applies.

You are literally too stupid to insult. It's obvious you're too immersed to ever see the logic of anyone's counter-arguments. Have fun blocking those filthy casuals on pixels while teaming up with the guild you dumbfucks loathed and shittalked at every opportunity since their inception. The thought of Feign, Fingerz, and Breaken teaming up with Detoxx is just too funny. The hypocrisy is so fucking strong, but your tiny mind will never admit to it.

Agnarr soon at least

except getting each other suspended at the same time obviously helps neither entity. Therefore agreeing to work it out between themselves is logical. The only people who benefited from A/A hating each other were the casual guilds. Now that they wont get their forced rotations anymore, they are upset. For proof just look at your own responses, the only one calling people filthy noobs here was you.

[Llodd]

Why do you keep getting each other suspended? Is it because you're unable to play by the rules ?

Bones made a good point - as much as you like to say how much you enjoy competition; you've mostly given up on the real competition EQ ever had to offer. Going toe to toe in zones where fast mobilisation and controlling your raid matters. No other zone as much as Fear offers that under the current ruleset.

And to answer my own earlier question, the barrier for entry to get into the A/A rotation is to get one or both of you suspended multiple times. Noted !

[Bones]

atleast its better they are here raiding trakanon in the middle of the night for the 150th time than shooting up some school. Gotta weigh the pros and cons.

devs and gms doing gods work keeping these sociopaths placated godbless

[Erati]

This thread was a great troll - kudos to the OP

And no if you want to see true mobilization competition at its finest, lets have some repops THEN you can see which guilds mobilize and organize the fastest/best

CT spawning at 10 AM on a Wed or whatever is not any 'true' test of competition, Im sorry.

[BallzDeep]

Doing more with less - How's Tunare?

[Llodd]

How the mighty have fallen when they consider fte racing true competition.

You do(n't) realise full repops just see's guilds avoiding each other going after different targets. How is that competition?

[Erati]

How the mighty have fallen when they consider fte racing true competition.

You do(n't) realise full repops just see's guilds avoiding each other going after different targets. How is that competition?

Discredits FTE racing as competition in sentence 1. Discredits mobilization repop racing as competition in sentence 2.

:confused::confused::confused:

[RedXIII]

QQ'ing guilds trying to bitch cuz A/A is working together and no more left overs for them? Oh baby... i am gonna cry all night and not sleep feeling guilty.

Get FUCKED bitches. Go to fucking phinny where you guys belong.

@OP, just app Awakened or Aftermeth, get into whatever guild you have more friends with. Cuz thats what this game is all about.

[Mythanor]

QQ'ing guilds trying to bitch cuz A/A is working together and no more left overs for them? Oh baby... i am gonna cry all night and not sleep feeling guilty.

Get FUCKED bitches. Go to fucking phinny where you guys belong.

@OP, just app Awakened or Aftermeth, get into whatever guild you have more friends with. Cuz thats what this game is all about.

Thanks for proving earlier points. Two thumbs up ...

PS. No QQ'ing going on, if you actually read the thread. It's people talking about the hypocrites that said one thing, and now are allied and doing another. That is all... (in before moved to RnF)

[RedXIII]

Thanks for proving earlier points. Two thumbs up ...

PS. No QQ'ing going on, if you actually read the thread. It's people talking about the hypocrites that said one thing, and now are allied and doing another. That is all... (in before moved to RnF)

competition still going. that goes to show how clueless you lesser guilds are about what the raiding is.

[Cecily]

Discredits FTE racing as competition in sentence 1. Discredits mobilization repop racing as competition in sentence 2.

:confused::confused::confused:

Seems counter-intuitive, but it really comes down to one major point which TMO proved (it) so very, very well: Everquest without competition is pretty fun. Interacting with Taken on any, literally any, level isn't.

[Maner]

Thanks for proving earlier points. Two thumbs up ...

PS. No QQ'ing going on, if you actually read the thread. It's people talking about the hypocrites that said one thing, and now are allied and doing another. That is all... (in before moved to RnF)

Except A/A still directly compete for non 1 hour FTE mobs. They also compete against the other casual guilds. Like racing rustle on dain, and snagging AOW when rustle and friends wiped.

How is it in their best interest to continue and petition each other every chance they get? The GMs have shown they just save up petitions now so they can suspend both guilds at once. There is absolutely no benifit from that continuing.

[BallzDeep]

I guess TMO waking up at all hours of the night and securing the 1000th Trakanon kill is considered no competition, they just felt like it. Most people in those guilds will tell you the best times they had were FE vs TMO or TMO vs IB. It's funny how you only acknowledge things YOU did when YOU were in the guild as good and great but now that your not, it isn't. It's also funny how it was understandable when YOU were doing it but when YOU joined Rustle you gained the plethora of morality on a video game. Glad to see you bend reality to fit your agenda, hmm...where else have I seen this with you?

[Cecily]

Naw. Competition was always terrible. In a hardcore guild, however, you're obligated to say how much fun the competition is or you lose credibility. Luckily, there's a special bunch of retards who find the FTE racing, I mean waiting for 16 hours, fun, and for that the rest of us in raiding guilds are grateful.

[danceparty]

well, i dunno about that Cec. speaking from the eyes of the have-not Forceful Entry dreamer, the only reason we got out of bed at 3 AM on a wednesday when the dang ol phone rang was b/c we knew y'all were, and we hated losing more than we loved winning. And look what happened when TMO picked up their toys and went home...so did FE. Some unnatural construct of a dick statue replaced it when FE and TMO merged less than a week later. /barf

so IMO without that competition no one would give two hoots about killing drags. also, I type this as I sit in front of my PC screen staring at a bare patch of pixels that a dragon will spawn in sometime in the next 8 hours.

OP, the reason we are all loving EQ still after all these years is because its not easy, in fact its hard and in fact it breaks us when we try. and that makes it worthwhile. join a raid guild and indulge!

[Capi]

Sounds to me that the guild atmosphere is great. Dunno bout you bros

[Shift]

VS we get epics selectively completed. we do raid Plane of Sky on Thursday nights, do Kael raids, PoF.PoH,PoG, Try Lord Nagafen or Lady Vox if they are in window and we have the numbers to attempt such feat. a very active guild chat, we never really have less then 14 people on the guild list at all times of day, week, month etc,.

We are EST guild but we do have Pacific time and Central Players that are in our guild, even people over seas, canada etc.

If interested check us out.

Www.Velocishift.co not com

we got a website, teamspeak channel and groupme batphone, or wanna socialize with eachother Me and Willfight's guild is a big family environment.

[Andos]

Returning player coming back wth some friends. Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out. Who's the top dawgs? What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc. Who's the new TMO?

Agnarr in 18 days, might as well just wait.

[kotton05]

I suggest you join all the guilds. Then basically you're never missing out.

[Llodd]

Discredits FTE racing as competition in sentence 1. Discredits mobilization repop racing as competition in sentence 2.

:confused::confused::confused:

Nah I'm discrediting the notion that repops are more competitive than guilds going toe to toe in fear. Shits classic. You're not. How ironic.

[Cecily]

Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out.

http://i.imgur.com/IttD7tK.jpeg

[Nommis]

http://i.imgur.com/PjcxyQu.gif