which knight?

[Seeatee]

I played P99 ages ago and have been playing a mage and enjoying it and im ready to start gearing the char I actually want to play, a tank, I really dont plan to raid so war is out, my question is should I go pally or SK? is there a difference in desirability in the 50 + group game where most groups want a SK or a pally etc or does it not matter and a tank is a tank? I have played a SK here to 45 before and never really leveled a pally past 10, is pallys agro decent? basically just looking for any input / suggestions , thanks in advance.

[RDawg816]

Most pugs will range whay they can get. Paladins aggro is great for grouping. SK is as well. Play what you want. Either should be fine.

[Beastagoog]

You can solo far better on a SK than you can on a Paladin, also your move ability around dungeons and zones is far superior as you have both invs in addition to a CoS pre nerf which is instant.

You can also single pull while soloing fairly easy.

Paladins are amazing group tanks and by far strip a SK of grouping qualities how they suffer big time when it comes to soloing/duo's etc.

Your decision basically comes down to this:

Do I wanna play a knight that I can solo/farm with and still tank in groups?

Or

Play a less soloable class but shine in groups more.

(I love paladins but truth is SKs are way more inclinded for soloing, you can level a sk albeit slowly in alot of places 50-60 solo).

Take for example Giant Fort in Burning Woods. A Paladin would struggle to solo 1 giant there, but an SK could fear kite one around nps while waiting for a group in KC etc.

[Troxx]

If I had to choose I'd rather have a paladin in my group. Paladin utility and backup heals (along with buffs and supplementary Rez at high level) make them more attractive in a PuG situation.

As for which I'd rather play personally - that one is harder. Sk with FD and instant invis is very mobile and a lot more self-reliant in a pinch.

They're both great classes worth playing and having in your group. Their only drawback is the terrible damage they put out.

[Seeatee]

Has cos been nerfed yet on this server?

[Gain]

Yes

[Seeatee]

How much does a pre nerf go for these days

[Nightbear]

feign death ez pz

[Lifebar]

Go home Pulsate, you're drunk.

[Nightbear]

LIFEBAR <3 how'd you know

[Danth]

is there a difference in desirability in the 50 + group game where most groups want a SK or a pally etc or does it not matter and a tank is a tank?

It's exceedingly rare for a group to care which of the two classes they invite. As far as most groups care a knight is a knight.

Danth

[Sage Truthbearer]

Both classes are amazing group tanks and neither of them are very efficient at soloing. With all things being fairly equal it all comes down to spells.. and Paladins have a way better toolkit. Paladins blow SKs out of the water when it comes to utility, it's not even a close fight. Remember, they are the only tank class in the game that has root. This makes you a front-line CC + tank in group settings.. a lot more useful than a crappy snare-dot. Secondly, you get some really powerful heals, comparable to what a Shaman/Druid can do at equivalent levels.. plus a very efficient heal-over-time later on.

I'm not even going to mention how useless HT is compared to LoH, having an attainable epic, stun-locking mobs, or 90% rez, because the root + heals alone already make Paladins the objectively better group tank.

[Seeatee]

Paladin sounds pretty attractive when you out it like that. Does race make a difference with pally? I am really thinking dwarf.

[RDawg816]

I am really thinking dwarf.
Play what makes you happy.

Which is better depends on you.
Raiding you probably want more wisdom.
New/self-made man you probably want more strength.
Dwarf has low charisma (pulling with lulls) but charisma gear is cheap...

[Seeatee]

is ghoulbane a good low to mid level weapon? I came into one one and its making me want to lean towards pally, i know its for their epic but is it something i could use for a while ?
also thanks everyone for answering my questions , its been a hot minute since ive played eq and never really played a pally before

also if i go dwarf pally, would i want to put the extra points into sta for hp or into cha to try and bring it up some

[RDawg816]

is ghoulbane a good low to mid level weapon?
It's not bad. Slower delay let's you cast spells between swings.
also if i go dwarf pally, would i want to put the extra points into sta for hp or into cha to try and bring it up some
I would go sta or wis...

[Danth]

Does race make a difference with pally? I am really thinking dwarf.

Hardly. There isn't THAT much of a stat difference between the options (no Ogres, etc) and their factions are all broadly similar. Pick the one you like the best.

Danth

[Qtip]

is ghoulbane a good low to mid level weapon? I came into one one and its making me want to lean towards pally, i know its for their epic but is it something i could use for a while ?
also thanks everyone for answering my questions , its been a hot minute since ive played eq and never really played a pally before

also if i go dwarf pally, would i want to put the extra points into sta for hp or into cha to try and bring it up some

Go +wis, +cha items are usually dirt cheap and theres a couple cheap ones with 10+ cha for lulls.

[fash]

Worth noting that Tunare worshiping paladins (high or half elf) have access to http://wiki.project1999.com/Natures_Defender . About as good as epic and easier to acquire.

[Jimjam]

Both classes are pretty fun, and probably viewed equally by xp groups.

With the equipment we have available now, tanking is pretty trivial. Even rangers can make a passable job of group content if they remember to keep their AC buffed. Go with your heart!

Worth noting that Tunare worshiping paladins (high or half elf) have access to http://wiki.project1999.com/Natures_Defender . About as good as epic and easier to acquire.

Is it Bashable?

[Nightbear]

no bash

[Remeygi]

Go pally all the way, cause black knights suck:
https://youtu.be/2eMkth8FWno