Who is gonna miss Classic EQ , when kunark releases?

[Thetruth]

The truth says,

I for one am not looking foward to Kunark. I will miss classic so much. Sure sure it'll still be around I know. It just wont be same. *Tear*

Your truths?

[Bubbles]

I for one will.

I'd be 100% in favor of giving the devs a 3 month break to vacation..

And have them wipe the servers entirely before they jet out to let us scamper for that first cracked staff and backpack all over again. :)

[Thetruth]

I for one will.

I'd be 100% in favor of giving the devs a 3 month break to vacation..

And have them wipe the servers entirely before they jet out to let us scamper for that first cracked staff and backpack all over again. :)

The truth says,

A server wipe would be awesome.

[fischsemmel]

The truth says,

A server wipe would be awesome.

It's funny, because my nostalgia for old everquest has always been for Kunark. However, in the last couple weeks I've realized that I hardly know any of the Kunark zones. Overthere, Dalnir, Dreadlands, Karnors... those are pretty much the only ones I'm at all familiar with. I came into EQ during Kunark, but seem to have spent the majority of my time in the old world anyways.

Re: the server wipe? I'm indifferent to it. I love leveling up and growing in power and finding gear for my character and all that, but I just started on here 5 weeks ago... so I actually would probably be a bit burned out on leveling up if I had to do it again starting tomorrow.

[vincin]

Im sure as hell not going to miss classic....I like Kunark

[audacity]

I JUZ KANT WAYT TILL THAY RUHLEES LOOKLIN SO I KAN HAS A MOON CAT BASTELORD

[regatta]

I JUZ KANT WAYT TILL THAY RUHLEES LOOKLIN SO I KAN HAS A MOON CAT BASTELORD

Never go full retard.

[Thetruth]

Never go full retard.

ROFLMAO!!!!! Best reponse ever.

[DevGrousis]

I would love a server whipe purely for the fact that it would make this truly FEEL classic. the newb zones would be packed, there wouldnt be as many twinks :D the thrill of a cracked staff when the most money you've ever had is 29gp is the shit :D

BUT, Kunark brought about some much needed changes to the game, and a race that was definitely a GOOD addition to the game (Iksar, as apposed to the fucking Cats, and Drakkin. i suppose Froglocks needed to come and they were cool too)

[karsten]

dev pal, you didnt spend long enough away from the forums

and by not long enough, i mean forever

[Psionide]

says the dude whos got two level 20 characters (devgrousis

[Wartooth]

Kunark > Any Expansion

[DevGrousis]

says the dude whos got two level 20 characters (devgrousis

Yeah, says the guy that posted "says the dude whos got two level 20 characters (devgrousis


so whats your point bud? i feel like having newb zones full of players would be nice. if i was lvl one it would still be nice for it to feel classic in that sense

[Darkforge]

I am going to miss the old EQ. EQ the beginning was my first memories! I will have to say, I will never forget the start of EQ. I made some really good memories that i will never forget. Long live eq! and long live this server! :)

[Hobby]

Kunark is going to disappoint me in the sense that nothing is going to be new. It is a nice expansion, but I have grown accustom to the original EQ and I simply love it for what it is. Kunark will grow on me, but it simply wont be the same.

Then again, maybe people will shut the hell up about the AC camp for little bit -.-

[captainspauldin]

im going to like kunark alot....

i think a server wipe on a start of kunark is a fun idea but they could also just clone the server once they put kunark on and just not copy the characters. have both.

that way when we get nice and bored on our mains here n crap, or for those of us who want to start an iksar, we can go play on the new one as well as here. inbetween raids or when friends get on etc

if they did that + kunark on its own, is going to help the overcrowding problem

[Otto]

At this point I'm really only excited for Velious. Loved the expansion.

[nalkin]

Server wipe on kunark release would be awesome.

Also, Kunark sucks. I'd rather see luclin tbh, Kunark is to dry.

[Tippett]

The truth says,

A server wipe would be awesome.

This

[Ralexia]

Kunark is going to disappoint me in the sense that nothing is going to be new. It is a nice expansion, but I have grown accustom to the original EQ and I simply love it for what it is. Kunark will grow on me, but it simply wont be the same.

Then again, maybe people will shut the hell up about the AC camp for little bit -.-

I don't think so. When the beta was first released I jumped on and ran around the Kunark zones for the first time in years. My first impression: OMG THESE ZONES ARE HUGE! I need to get jboots before Kunark!

I'm going to miss leveling in dungeons. Given the popularity of nro and oasis as leveling spots I fear everyone will just hang out in LoIo, Frontier Mnts, Overthere and the dungeons will be empty of pug groups. Maybe not though, we'll have to see.

[Anderdale]

will ec tunnel still be where everyone goes to trade?

[Nuggie]

Yes

[Caldwin]

I don't want a server wipe. I don't have a lot of time to play. So, my leveling has been slow. My highest character is only lvl 17 (Magician) after 11 months. Though, this also includes a lvl 12 druid and 3 other lower lvl characters.

I certainly don't want to start over again.

[Nedala]

Yes

No it will move to gfay!

[Badmartigan]

Dreadlands saw alot of auctions back i'n my day

[Tippett]

I don't want a server wipe. I don't have a lot of time to play. So, my leveling has been slow. My highest character is only lvl 17 (Magician) after 11 months. Though, this also includes a lvl 12 druid and 3 other lower lvl characters.

I certainly don't want to start over again.

11 months...... what are you killing man!

[Caldwin]

11 months...... what are you killing man!

Like I said, I don't have a lot of time on the game. I'm lucky to get a few hours on a weekend. In fact, from late June to late December last year, I wasn't on at all due to real life. Also, since the beginning of January, I've been trying other classes while my sister levels up a Shaman (currently lvl 9) to duo with my Mage.

[mitic]

The truth says,

A server wipe would be awesome.

thats imo the mainreason why ppl will start a toon on live progression. fresh starts have always been exciting in eq, especialy when they come with a brandnew server too.

[Tippett]

thats imo the mainreason why ppl will start a toon on live progression. fresh starts have always been exciting in eq, especialy when they come with a brandnew server too.

I think the reason alot of people are thirsting for it is because a majority of the people who started on this server have left. With the rest of us finding out about it much later in its life, it's frustrating when a portion of the few who have remained from the beginning have a stranglehold on alot of the content. We just want a chance at stuff that's perma-camped or poopsocked, and a wipe would set an equal ground instead of all of us *hoping* the *OG's* will move on or by having to play by their rules to get at content. I think some people would get pissed and leave, but those are most likely going be the same individuals with an iron-grip on all the high-value items/resources which unfortunately don't represent a large/newer portion of the population at this point.

Seems like the same people are camping shit over and over and not because they need something, because they have nothing else to do but plat hoard. Well how about they re-lvl a toon (giving them something to do and if they say "Im not going to do that again fuck you" they probably are burnt out and should play something else for awhile anyways) and also give the rest of us a chance at some content that at the current time is very difficult to get a shot at.

I mean the same 2 guilds have killed the same few bosses a million times, and STILL will poopsock and camp them. I know its not a magic cure for limited content availability, but I would hope it would relieve alot of pressure for about... I don't know..... say 1 1/2 years?

[Icaro]

I always thought that greed for items is what ruins the game experience. To both, farmers and not farmers.

[soup]

I'm pretty damn excited for Kunark. I don't think I'll miss the pure classic since when I played, Kunark was the bread & butter of my EQ experience. When I think EQ I think Kunark, and to a MUCH lesser extent, Velious.

And despite that, there was a LOT I never did in Kunark, so I'm pretty excited overall.

[Neach]

Kunark is thebest expansion in my opinion and feels as classic as it gets. can't wait myself.

[Volsic]

I am not looking forward to Kunark.

The population right now is great. When Kunark releases everyone will be spread too thin and its going to ruin what is so awesome about this server... which is that you can actually play the game as it was intended. Second, They went way overboard with the loot in Kunark. When the best weapons in classic EQ can be replaced with yard trash, it's ridiculous. 3rd, raising the level cap and introducing new, uber gear makes epic encounters in classic trivial, and that's just sad.

Not looking forward to it. I mean, I'll still play, but I think it's going to ruin an epic server. Once people can't find regular groups, they'll start begging to be allowed to 2 box so they can actually play... and it's all downhill from there.

[Thetruth]

I am not looking forward to Kunark.

The population right now is great. When Kunark releases everyone will be spread too thin and its going to ruin what is so awesome about this server... which is that you can actually play the game as it was intended. Second, They went way overboard with the loot in Kunark. When the best weapons in classic EQ can be replaced with yard trash, it's ridiculous. 3rd, raising the level cap and introducing new, uber gear makes epic encounters in classic trivial, and that's just sad.

Not looking forward to it. I mean, I'll still play, but I think it's going to ruin an epic server. Once people can't find regular groups, they'll start begging to be allowed to 2 box so they can actually play... and it's all downhill from there.

The truth says,

I agree totally. The thing I hope to counteract some of the stuff we think will be true. I just hope all the people that quit playing come back. Server pop goes to 900 or something. This would def help. I hope to god they never allow 2 boxing. Itll fuck up the game so hard. I will miss classic tho. Im ejoying every moment I can on my rogue and bard. I know the end of classic era is near. =( upperguk wont be the same. Ill miss you classic honest I will. I love you forever.

[karsten]

people who will miss classic after playing on p99 for over a year and a half: gigantic faggots

[moklianne]

I am not looking forward to Kunark.

The population right now is great. When Kunark releases everyone will be spread too thin and its going to ruin what is so awesome about this server... which is that you can actually play the game as it was intended. Second, They went way overboard with the loot in Kunark. When the best weapons in classic EQ can be replaced with yard trash, it's ridiculous. 3rd, raising the level cap and introducing new, uber gear makes epic encounters in classic trivial, and that's just sad.

Not looking forward to it. I mean, I'll still play, but I think it's going to ruin an epic server. Once people can't find regular groups, they'll start begging to be allowed to 2 box so they can actually play... and it's all downhill from there.

Basically how I feel, especially about the population. We need a few hundred more peeps when Kunark hits.

The devs could just open up a new server with each new expansion for those who want the wipe. The expansion would be applied to the current one of course, but for those who wanted a fresh start, a new server could be implemented.

[Lagaidh]

Kunark means we are one small step closer to my favorite expansion of EverQuest: Velious. I say bring the Kunark. Most of my best early memories are old world + Velious. I never personally cared for Kunark, but then, I was wasting a lot of time in my play style then too.

I'm glad to see the server moving forward. Kunark being released is a proof of this community. The devs wouldn't bother for an insignificant amount of players.

Huzzah and keep it coming.

[Harrison]

people who will miss classic after playing on p99 for over a year and a half: gigantic faggots

[Lagaidh]

I think the reason alot of people are thirsting for it is because a majority of the people who started on this server have left. With the rest of us finding out about it much later in its life, it's frustrating when a portion of the few who have remained from the beginning have a stranglehold on alot of the content. We just want a chance at stuff that's perma-camped or poopsocked, and a wipe would set an equal ground instead of all of us *hoping* the *OG's* will move on or by having to play by their rules to get at content.

This is what I like to call the "Revolutionary's Optimism". They could wipe, and this "equal footing" would be gone in no time. I'm not uber. I was for a time in Live. I don't want to be uber here. It's a lot of work. That's what the folks on the outside looking in always forget. That's what the folks on the inside never forget.

Within a week, those with the time will be top of the heap again; wipe or not. Those folks will always succeed ahead of the curve, not solely because they really know the game and are good, but because they also have the sick amount of time to invest.

That's why games like WoW are ingenious because the game can make the hardcore uber players and the time-starved power gamers both feel like they are really good.

You and I my friend... we're time starved power gamers. I agree with your sentiment, and there is certainly merit in the perspective of "I got here late but I'm just as good". However, in my experience, this sort of talk is the territory of the sour-grapes crowd.

They wipe the server and I guarantee that the top 10% with the knowhow and the time will be the top 10% by any measurable means three months from now if they keep playing.

/The above is my opinion and as such is no more valid or invalid than anyone else's opinion. Except of course for Insane Larry who drinks paint thinner and mates with electrical sockets; my opinion means more than his by default.

[Tippett]

This is what I like to call the "Revolutionary's Optimism". They could wipe, and this "equal footing" would be gone in no time. I'm not uber. I was for a time in Live. I don't want to be uber here. It's a lot of work. That's what the folks on the outside looking in always forget. That's what the folks on the inside never forget.

Within a week, those with the time will be top of the heap again; wipe or not. Those folks will always succeed ahead of the curve, not solely because they really know the game and are good, but because they also have the sick amount of time to invest.

That's why games like WoW are ingenious because the game can make the hardcore uber players and the time-starved power gamers both feel like they are really good.

You and I my friend... we're time starved power gamers. I agree with your sentiment, and there is certainly merit in the perspective of "I got here late but I'm just as good". However, in my experience, this sort of talk is the territory of the sour-grapes crowd.

They wipe the server and I guarantee that the top 10% with the knowhow and the time will be the top 10% by any measurable means three months from now if they keep playing.

/The above is my opinion and as such is no more valid or invalid than anyone else's opinion. Except of course for Insane Larry who drinks paint thinner and mates with electrical sockets; my opinion means more than his by default.

You do make good points which I feel are legitimate. IMO though after a wipe the number of people at the top would be reduced dramatically yes some would powerlevel back to 50 in no time, but alot would not and the limited budge room at the top would be a little larger. I don't feel like im "good" at the game and deserve better loots, I just want to experience some of the stuff that is being choked out for everyone else by the same 25 people farming for phat "Kunark loots".

[Lagaidh]

Oh I can totally see that side of the coin too. I've been in that position though, and the only real way to progress was to go through the hardcore system. That's how many folks are going to finally get a slice of the endgame, wipe or not.

[karsten]

this is one of those situations where people responding to terrible ideas lends credence to said ideas


yes i am aware of what me responding with this indicates

[Bubbles]

Lol i never advocated a server wipe to 'even out the server', much less because i'm missing any 'phat lewtz'.

I'm just acknowledging the fact that the only real fun had in this game is the original mad levelling scamper when no one has anything.

51-60 + Kunark is still fun, too, don't get me wrong.

[DarkRazzy]

After all the work and long hours lvling to 32, i would never play on this server again if they chose to hit the reset button on me and make me start from scratch again. my fury would be monstrous thus i would simply quit and wait for star wars the old republic. hehe

[Massive Marc]

karsten dood, what happened to Pantheon ??

[Toony]

I never really made the distinction that Kunark and Velious weren't "classic". It wasn't until after Luclin that I thought of it in those terms.

[Versus]

I don't understand the sentiment of being late to the server means you don't get to experience the end-game. Level up to 46+ --> show your skills in EXP groups--> meet people --> apply to the top guild --> gain access to the end-game content you're after. Profit.

[Extunarian]

I mean the same 2 guilds have killed the same few bosses a million times, and STILL will poopsock and camp them. I know its not a magic cure for limited content availability, but I would hope it would relieve alot of pressure for about... I don't know..... say 1 1/2 years?

The top guilds on this server are not some static group with zero turnover. You can app them and you can join them. In my opinion any competent person willing to put in the time and effort can get to this content that you feel is monopolized.

I've been playing casually on this server coming up on a year now, and I have seen several people who just a few months ago were asking for buffs in the EC tunnel so they could kill snakes and are now walking around with CT loot. As much as it might seem, the raid scene is not that exclusive.

[Seaweedpimp]

Classic is still there, its not leaving, WTF is this thread?

Reset? i dont care if this is server chat FUCK YOU.