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Seeatee
05-27-2017, 11:49 AM
ive done some searching on the forums and ive found A LOT if threads asking for this advice and a lot of discussion on the merits of going straight ratio / dps vs procs at low to mid levels. however almost all of these were pre velious, some even pre kunark.
is 2 lammys still considered the best warrior agro weapons until you can use 2 procing SSoYs at 37 ( or even better now ) ? or has velious changed that with weapons like venomous axe of the velium brood which has a pretty meating proc at level 1?
as I said in the post on the caster board i just recently recovered my lost account and i have a level 20 warrior on it id like to get back into playing him but not sure which direction to go anymore with weapons.
also rather than starting a new thread, is crafted armor still decent? or should i aim for cructeacean shell stuff until i can get him velious armor? i have a 54 mage I can use to farm some stuff for him.
Jimjam
05-27-2017, 02:18 PM
10:20ish primary, venomous axe secondary, 20% worn haste (group with enchanters to cap it), 150 or so worn AC and a couple of hp/ac rings will easily get you to your velious class armour.
Get infestation and frostbringer if you can. If not Trochilic's Skean is a fairly common rot in Steamfont and makes a decent enough off hand for the 40s.
Jimjam
05-27-2017, 02:43 PM
Take note, Seatee's warrior is 20ish. He'll probably want to hold out on 2handers (if he goes that route) until at least 30, due to DMG camps.
You are right that 2 handers are a viable option for 30s and 40s.
Kelor
05-27-2017, 05:02 PM
Reaver worked well i found.
Seeatee
06-02-2017, 01:26 PM
right now my baby 19 warrior is rocking a lammy and a venemous axe of the velium brood, would it be worthwhile to invest in a wurmslayer for my offhand? would a lammy / wurmy combo be good agro or mostly just nice dps? or should i rock what i have til 40 when i can get a sarnak warhammer and yakesha proc weapons?
Samoht
06-02-2017, 01:56 PM
Wurmslayer (https://wiki.project1999.com/Wurmslayer) is main-hand only. Ykesha doesn't start procing until 37. Scorpikis Claw Impaler (https://wiki.project1999.com/Scorpikis_Claw_Impaler) is higher aggro and procs at 30.
WESS (https://wiki.project1999.com/Wrapped_Entropy_Serpent_Spine) procs at level 1.
Jimjam
06-02-2017, 03:06 PM
The biggest upgrade you can have at the moment is a group mate rooting your target and you standing on its toes to guarantee you're the one getting hit.
If you want to use a wurmslayer consider it might not hit full DMG until 30 and is primary only.
For your 40s I again urge you to find a Trochilic's Skean. While gaming spam /who all steamfont: if you see a high level druid/rogue in there ask if they are doing Renux and if you can loot the rotting Skean. It's a 2:5 off hand weapon with a very high aggro proc which reduces incoming damage. Only drawback is the dot element continually breaking mezs if you proc on the wrong target, but that shouldn't happen if you are MAing well.
Samoht
06-02-2017, 03:20 PM
The dot on the skean barely even last for a full tick, two ticks at the most if it hits at the right time.
Seeatee
06-02-2017, 05:01 PM
Am I remembering correctly that Wess is one of the better if not best tradeable agro weapons at the moment?
Naethyn
06-02-2017, 05:02 PM
Best 2hander you can find. Staff of Battle/Excuisite Velium etc.
Will shit on any 1h combination for aggro except blade of carnage and swiftblade until your 50's. And xp rate is higher as more dps than all the 'aggro' proc weapons.
Samoht
06-02-2017, 05:14 PM
Am I remembering correctly that Wess is one of the better if not best tradeable agro weapons at the moment?
Yeah, 4 poison counters + attack debuff + blind = huge aggro. plus the ratio is better than practically any non-Velious weapons.
Seeatee
06-03-2017, 10:17 AM
That skorpikus claw impaler looks good, but I've done a good bit of reading and it says straight dots are not very good agro. Is that proc really that good for agro?
Kelor
06-03-2017, 11:36 AM
Yea its massive aggro, but Serpent spine / Venomous axe is better due to dps.
I would just go Staff of battle / Exquisite 2h / Reaver though.
Maybe switch at 40 once shaman start getting decent dex buffs to Frostbringer / whip / infestation.
aaezil
06-03-2017, 11:43 AM
ssoy is no longer good with velious out
Seeatee
06-06-2017, 04:08 PM
What is the deal with infestation? Does it get pug'd, or Is it byog? Does it often rot and you can wait around for one or do you pay for loot rights?
Samoht
06-06-2017, 04:10 PM
What is the deal with infestation? Does it get pug'd, or Is it byog? Does it often rot and you can wait around for one or do you pay for loot rights?
You'll have to poopsock Vilefang until you get a timer on him and then show up with a raid on his next scheduled spawn. Otherwise, buying it from a farmer is the only other option.
Lhancelot
06-07-2017, 11:42 AM
What is the deal with infestation? Does it get pug'd, or Is it byog? Does it often rot and you can wait around for one or do you pay for loot rights?
Get a frostbringer, I find it at lvl 49 equally good if not better than infestation for aggro. I routinely see the frostbringer proc more, have both on my warrior so this is from experience.
I honestly think you could easily tank with a frostbringer mainhand and a cracked staff in your secondary and you'd have no aggro problems.
Without buffs, just soloing stuff I played around a lot with my infestation and frostbringer, tallying procs and the frostbringer simply procs more frequently.
I can have a fight where my frostbringer goes off 3-5 times, I never once had a fight where infestation went off more than 3 times. This is soloing stuff, and without group buffs mind you, but I was running with 140-145 dex.
Perhaps in a group, running haste, etc., infestation is better I do not know. I just know my frostbringer procs a lot, and the stun effect on it pisses mobs off fast.
Basically you have many options of weapons to go with. For droppables, Sarnak stun hammer works great too. WESS if you can tolerate the whip.
Frostbringer is my favorite of the droppables though.
**I had a group with another warrior that was using swiftblade of zek and tons of twink gear much higher quality than I had who commented on how well my frostbringer was holding aggro.
It works, and looks nice. get a frostbringer.
Samoht
06-07-2017, 11:55 AM
There are no procmods on P99. Avoid idiots with their anecdotal nonsense. Since when does Frostbringer have a stun effect?
Seeatee
06-07-2017, 12:01 PM
I bought myself a wess, I was planing on going frosty at 40 til i could snag an infestation or one of the higher tier warrior weapons. afaik frosty doesnt have a stun, just a DD and ac debuff.
Samoht
06-07-2017, 12:06 PM
Frostbringer + WESS makes a good combo until you can replace Frostbringer with Infestation.
As an interim solution before getting Infestation, WESS + Trochilic's Skean (https://wiki.project1999.com/Trochilic's_Skean) (procs at 46) would actually be higher hate from procs, but Frostbringer would be higher DPS.
Infestation + WESS would be the highest threat generation outside of epic/VP/ToV.
Naethyn
06-07-2017, 12:26 PM
Frostbringer's aggro is mostly from reducing AC, not the stun.
Samoht
06-07-2017, 12:57 PM
Tserrina's Whip (https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina's_Whip) is going to be more aggro than Frostbringer, but much less DPS and it's probably harder to obtain than Infestation.
Naethyn
06-07-2017, 01:16 PM
Tserrina's Whip (https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina's_Whip) is going to be more aggro than Frostbringer, but much less DPS and it's probably harder to obtain than Infestation.
One of my favorite combos is whip + primal. Any raid with lots of trash I generally use this. (Ring war, growth, fear, hate, sky, dn). It also snares some MR immune mobs that can have movement speed adjustments.
Seeatee
06-07-2017, 01:21 PM
I was looking into the skean Before, it looks really appealing but it seems like it would be pretty dicey to try and get one without poopsocking steamfont and hoping for one to rot if someone happens to do the fight
Samoht
06-07-2017, 01:31 PM
I was looking into the skean Before, it looks really appealing but it seems like it would be pretty dicey to try and get one without poopsocking steamfont and hoping for one to rot if someone happens to do the fight
Just make a /who all steamfont macro and hit it every now and then. Whenever you see a high level Rogue in the zone, send him a /tell asking if he's doing Renux and if anybody has claimed the skean. It works pretty well. I had one rot a couple weeks ago.
Alternatively: play a low level gnome for a few levels and wait for one to be announced in /ooc
skarlorn
06-07-2017, 05:08 PM
10:20ish primary, venomous axe secondary, 20% worn haste (group with enchanters to cap it), 150 or so worn AC and a couple of hp/ac rings will easily get you to your velious class armour.
Get infestation and frostbringer if you can. If not Trochilic's Skean is a fairly common rot in Steamfont and makes a decent enough off hand for the 40s.
Good post
Lhancelot
06-07-2017, 05:15 PM
Frostbringer's aggro is mostly from reducing AC, not the stun.
Well I stand corrected, all I know is when that proc goes off the mob snaps instantly. It's a great weapon. I knew the aggro wasn't from the damage so just assumed it was from a .0 stun the weapon discharges with the dd. Good to know thanks!
Maner
06-07-2017, 06:18 PM
10:20ish primary, venomous axe secondary, 20% worn haste (group with enchanters to cap it), 150 or so worn AC and a couple of hp/ac rings will easily get you to your velious class armour.
Get infestation and frostbringer if you can. If not Trochilic's Skean is a fairly common rot in Steamfont and makes a decent enough off hand for the 40s.
It would take a lvl 60 chanter to haste cap someone with a 20% haste item after lvl 31. haste cap is 50% lvl 1-30 and 74% lvl 31-50 so you wouldn't be over cap until the chanter starts using AQ or epic. And with a 20% at lvl 31 you would even be under cap with VoG on
You'll have to poopsock Vilefang until you get a timer on him and then show up with a raid on his next scheduled spawn. Otherwise, buying it from a farmer is the only other option.
Can do vilefang with 2 people, def dont need a raid, let alone a full group. However for someone his level he will probably have to hope for a rot.
Jimjam
06-08-2017, 12:33 AM
Samoht is right, just spam / all steamfont and watch for high levels. I also had one rot recently, so ended up looting it on a lvl 35 alt.
It would take a lvl 60 chanter to haste cap someone with a 20% haste item after lvl 31. haste cap is 50% lvl 1-30 and 74% lvl 31-50 so you wouldn't be over cap until the chanter starts using AQ or epic. And with a 20% at lvl 31 you would even be under cap with VoG on
Okay, you got me, it's not quit perfect, but celerity (level 39, 50%) and sltw (lvl 49, 60%) do a good a good enough job at getting you near cap (74% to 50, 84% to 54)... close as makes no difference.
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