Proposal: Move ring 8 roll

[Botaccount1]

Currently the ring 8 roll is at 4:30am EST but thanks to the <Infernus> gentleman who won yesterdays ring roll, Gloradin Coldhearts spawn timer has been pushed to 07:51 EST. Therefor, I suggest moving ring roll to 7:30 EST instead.

Also, please stop being awful at the game. k thnx

[Maner]

I thought it was ffa after 20min of it spawning if the person who won the roll didn't do it.

[Pokesan]

I do not consent.

[skarlorn]

no, sorry , we can't accomodate you

[Pokesan]

I do not consent.

no, sorry , we can't accomodate you

Doesn't work for me brother

move to resolved

[Sadiki]

Ring roll should always be < 30 minutes before the pop. If the pop moves and someone at the roll knows it, then the roll should automatically be moved without 'asking permission'. The spawn was already something like an hour and a half away from the roll, which is utterly stupid. Is this server ever going to stop acting like waiting hours staring at a wall is healthy and normal? The timer should just be something automatic that is publicly available if this nonsense is going to keep up forever.

Or, yknow, maybe 50 people wouldn't be lining up for it every day if we just addressed that a 24 hour spawn time doesn't work for this server, which would also stop the people who roadblock it by being there every day to sell the end result as a MQ. hurr durr classic.

[Troxx]

One day in the distant future I'll get around to doing coldain ring to 9 and benevolence - but not until the madness dies down. We're how many months into velious and goons are still lining up for 24 hour repop quest? Life is too short.

[Beastagoog]

One day in the distant future I'll get around to doing coldain ring to 9 and benevolence - but not until the madness dies down. We're how many months into velious and goons are still lining up for 24 hour repop quest? Life is too short.

Lol.

With how many neckbeard are on p99 you prob got 5 years to wait till all their alts are ring8'ed.

Gl with it

On red99 a server with 100 neckbeards ring 8 mob is perma down. Let alone a swrver with 400 neckbeards

[kotton05]

Doesn't work for me brother

Snap into a ring a roll

[NextToTheGods]

Okay, fuck this. You people opposing the push of roll aren't even attending rolls. Currently Gloradin Coldheart doesn't spawn until 4.5 hours from roll and new roll time is needed.
Unless you are actually attending rolls, you need not bother posting in this thread.

[Lhancelot]

Okay, fuck this. You people opposing the push of roll aren't even attending rolls. Currently Gloradin Coldheart doesn't spawn until 4.5 hours from roll and new roll time is needed.


Nothing on Everquest is needed.

[Freakish]

I agree to moving the ring roll.

[Ivah]

Fuck ya more casual bluebie bitching up in here

[Pokesan]

Okay, fuck this. You people opposing the push of roll aren't even attending rolls. Currently Gloradin Coldheart doesn't spawn until 4.5 hours from roll and new roll time is needed.
Unless you are actually attending rolls, you need not bother posting in this thread.

lol

[gildor]

So roll is moved to 7:30 AM Est effective immediately? ...I like it.

[Pokesan]

So roll is moved to 7:30 AM Est effective immediately? ...I like it.

granted

[Spyder73]

I propose we move the ring roll to 3:30 AM EST

[RedXIII]

I propose a fte message on the NPC, and we race from Kael entrance. #gitgudbitches

[Zemus]

I propose a fte message on the NPC, and we race from Kael entrance. #gitgudbitches

No, we race from the ST pad. Fight me.

[Kesselring]

next person who wins ring roll and doesnt stick around til the spawn forfeits the turn in in my eyes. I'll be checking every day, for the 4.5 hours, or we can change it to an actual decent time. like 7:30am EST (I'm here right now at 7:50am EST and she still hasnt popped). I'll be there tomorrow, during ring roll and after ring roll, you log out (or leave to do something else), you forfeit it to me as far as im concerned and it will be a clickfest between us 2 for turning it in.

[Kesselring]

npc spawned at 9:02 AM EST btw. I think we should move this roll up to 8am, 8:30am-ish EST.

[Ruppet]

I agree with moving it up to 30 min before spawn. i.e. 8:30am EST.

Waiting 4.5 hours is kind of silly and sucks for anyone doing this part.

[gildor]

8:30 est moving forward then? Sounds fair to me...6/3/2017 8 roll will be at 8:30 am est..not 4:30 est..make it so!

[Morgander]

This is nonsense. Just show up and hand in your item when the npc spawns. It's ridiculous to do a roll hours before the turn-in npc is even up.

[zanderklocke]

Why are non-Euro players playing at 4:30 AM EST?

[xKoopa]

Why are non-Euro players playing at 4:30 AM EST?

Drugs

[Zemus]

I agree with moving it up to 30 min before spawn. i.e. 8:30am EST.

Waiting 4.5 hours is kind of silly and sucks for anyone doing this part.

30 min before spawn. When it extends to > 1 hour before the next spawn it rolls up to 30 minutes. Every time. Easy.

[Kesselring]

It's not just my opinion though, it's common fucking sense lol. I've talked to plenty of people and everyone said that made sense. There's absolutely NO point in having a roll 5 hours before the pop.

[Kesselring]

Already seeing a lot of people agree with this, so far. The ring roll will start at 8:30am EST tomorrow 6/3/17.

See you there.

[syztem]

got 13 rings, 6 of them are ring 9s, no ring 10s unfortunately. sold 4-5 ring 8 MQs for 30k a pop roughly, been holding gloridan timer to myself on red for weeks. 24hr respawn is nasty, thats gonna be 2 years before most people on blue even have a ring, scout at 10 hours for blue seems bad enough or whatever too long of a wait.

cant keep track of how many gloridans ive killed simply to keep timer at a certain one. I sincerely feel bad for this situation on blue, and slightly cringey

[Lhancelot]

got 13 rings, 6 of them are ring 9s, no ring 10s unfortunately. sold 4-5 ring 8 MQs for 30k a pop roughly, been holding gloridan timer to myself on red for weeks. 24hr respawn is nasty, thats gonna be 2 years before most people on blue even have a ring, scout at 10 hours for blue seems bad enough or whatever too long of a wait.

cant keep track of how many gloridans ive killed simply to keep timer at a certain one. I sincerely feel bad for this situation on blue, and slightly cringey

Aren't you the lonely king behind the castle walls.

[NextToTheGods]

Already seeing a lot of people agree with this, so far. The ring roll will start at 8:30am EST tomorrow 6/3/17.

See you there.

+1

[botrainer]

How about going forward we help each other with spawn timer / roll time by updating the turn in time and we have the roll within an hour to 30 mins of spawn time (mob spawns around 9AM have roll at 830 to be fair).

[Kesselring]

Ok so I showed up at 430am EST and did the roll and won it actually. However, i told people who showed up should be doing the roll at 830am EST and to spread the word. This guy named 'shnar' didn't agree, basically wanted GM's involved and a stickied post where it says that 830am is the new roll time.

I don't want the GM's involved. I just want people to have some common sense and do the roll 30min prior to spawn so theyre ready to go for the spawn.


edit: fyi I'll still help to keep pushing for this change regardless of me winning or not, never since this agreed upon by the server ring 8 roll have I ever seen the roll taking place so far inbetween the spawn.

[Kesselring]

How about going forward we help each other with spawn timer / roll time by updating the turn in time and we have the roll within an hour to 30 mins of spawn time (mob spawns around 9AM have roll at 830 to be fair).

I agree it should be 30min prior to the spawn, if you dont know what time it spawns, tough titty.

[Kesselring]

How about making it public so the casuals can have a go?

well that would require more than one person to advertise the time. Although I agree. I'm not going to sit there everyday to figure out what time he spawns as much as I'd like to so this isn't a fiasco.

Edit: to be fair I'm in favor of having a set-time. I'm just speculating a perfect world tbh. The set time to roll just needs to be a bit closer to spawn. And I will work on informing people of doing a closer to spawn roll time within the next few days so we can actually have that. I know it's not something that is just going to happen overnight. My stance on staying at the camp and waiting for the npc to spawn if you win stands though. If you log out or leave to me that just means a forfeiture.

[Brut]

Ring8 was at the absolute middle of the night for euros forever. Every damned repop put it to 4 at night.

Now it's finally been at euro friendly hours for a bit, and immediately we got people trying to shuffle it up to their convenience to their peak hours.

Fek off. Gonna go sit in tent and click the air if this ain't GM enforced.

[Lhancelot]

How about making it public so the casuals can have a go?

Why not create a thread on forums, specifically to keep track of the spawn time? People present at the roll can post here when the next one is to occur.

[Knowmercy]

its been gradually pushed back to that time, or someone deliberately pushed it back a few hours? messed up. we need a repop

[Vheran]

Pretty glad I don't give a shit about any of this. Seems like a real bummer to a fun experience

[Lhancelot]

Pretty glad I don't give a shit about any of this. Seems like a real bummer to a fun experience

yeah. seems ridiculous. all of this over a fricking spawned mob and no one wants to work together on it. Bunch of greedy neckbeards.

I sometimes think to myself I should push further into raiding (again) and try some of the higher tier content quests then I read shit like this and am reminded why I don't get involved.

[botrainer]

Officially and finally, the 8th Ring War ROLL will be moved to 8:30AM EST. Also, going forward if spawn(s) get pushed out the roll itself will then reflect that change in the spawn of a mob.

The 8th Ring War roll shall be done within 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawning. If Gloradin Coldheart spawn gets pushed outside that window, then the roll itself shall be moved up 30 mins to reflect any changes the day after Gloradin Coldheart spawn time changes. This will granting players one (1) day (24 hours) to become informed of upcoming changes. Rolls will only be held at XX:00 and XX:30 of the hours doing this will keep it simple.

I.E. If Gloradin Coldheart's approximate spawn time is at 9:20 AM EST on Monday (due to people not turning in their Marching Orders in a timely manner). However, the roll for the Ring War on Tuesday is held at 8:30 AM EST it will be at this time the players attending the roll will inform the collective group of rollers that the SPAWN time on Gloradin Coldheart has changed, and so too will the next day's (Wednesday) ring war roll be changed to 9AM EST.

Again, when a server reset happens or timers get reset the collective community shall post a NEW time that's with-in 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawn time. AKA, if you turn-in you set the new time everyone will roll at. Make sure you grant at least 20 minutes upon people having won the roll to gather forces before the actual spawn to ensure for best results on keeping that same time in place.

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At what point does the winning roller lose "rights" for the turn in?

The winning player shall have 15 minutes from the time Gloradin Coldheart spawns to turn in their Marching Orders uncontested. It's at/after that 15 minutes other players at the site have equal rights to Gloradin Coldheart turn-in. Meaning, Gloradin Coldheart turn-in and the ring war turn in becomes FFA. Players who wish to claim FFA status must be able to prove with logs/screenshots that Gloradin Coldheart has been up for the allowed time granted the winning roller.
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Tomorrow morning there will be a roll done at 8 30AM EST. These new rules will apply this spawn. See you there and good luck!

[lenf]

See you there and good luck!
best post ever !

[Pokesan]

Officially and finally, the 8th Ring War ROLL will be moved to 8:30AM EST. Also, going forward if spawn(s) get pushed out the roll itself will then reflect that change in the spawn of a mob.

The 8th Ring War roll shall be done within 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawning. If Gloradin Coldheart spawn gets pushed outside that window, then the roll itself shall be moved up 30 mins to reflect any changes the day after Gloradin Coldheart spawn time changes. This will granting players one (1) day (24 hours) to become informed of upcoming changes. Rolls will only be held at XX:00 and XX:30 of the hours doing this will keep it simple.

I.E. If Gloradin Coldheart's approximate spawn time is at 9:20 AM EST on Monday (due to people not turning in their Marching Orders in a timely manner). However, the roll for the Ring War on Tuesday is held at 8:30 AM EST it will be at this time the players attending the roll will inform the collective group of rollers that the SPAWN time on Gloradin Coldheart has changed, and so too will the next day's (Wednesday) ring war roll be changed to 9AM EST.

Again, when a server reset happens or timers get reset the collective community shall post a NEW time that's with-in 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawn time. AKA, if you turn-in you set the new time everyone will roll at. Make sure you grant at least 20 minutes upon people having won the roll to gather forces before the actual spawn to ensure for best results on keeping that same time in place.

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At what point does the winning roller lose "rights" for the turn in?

The winning player shall have 15 minutes from the time Gloradin Coldheart spawns to turn in their Marching Orders uncontested. It's at/after that 15 minutes other players at the site have equal rights to Gloradin Coldheart turn-in. Meaning, Gloradin Coldheart turn-in and the ring war turn in becomes FFA. Players who wish to claim FFA status must be able to prove with logs/screenshots that Gloradin Coldheart has been up for the allowed time granted the winning roller.
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Tomorrow morning there will be a roll done at 8 30AM EST. These new rules will apply this spawn. See you there and good luck!

I do not consent. Who are you to make these rules?

[Lhancelot]

I do not consent. Who are you to make these rules?

He's the ringmaster.

[NextToTheGods]

Officially and finally, the 8th Ring War ROLL will be moved to 8:30AM EST. Also, going forward if spawn(s) get pushed out the roll itself will then reflect that change in the spawn of a mob.

The 8th Ring War roll shall be done within 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawning. If Gloradin Coldheart spawn gets pushed outside that window, then the roll itself shall be moved up 30 mins to reflect any changes the day after Gloradin Coldheart spawn time changes. This will granting players one (1) day (24 hours) to become informed of upcoming changes. Rolls will only be held at XX:00 and XX:30 of the hours doing this will keep it simple.

I.E. If Gloradin Coldheart's approximate spawn time is at 9:20 AM EST on Monday (due to people not turning in their Marching Orders in a timely manner). However, the roll for the Ring War on Tuesday is held at 8:30 AM EST it will be at this time the players attending the roll will inform the collective group of rollers that the SPAWN time on Gloradin Coldheart has changed, and so too will the next day's (Wednesday) ring war roll be changed to 9AM EST.

Again, when a server reset happens or timers get reset the collective community shall post a NEW time that's with-in 20 to 45 mins of Gloradin Coldheart spawn time. AKA, if you turn-in you set the new time everyone will roll at. Make sure you grant at least 20 minutes upon people having won the roll to gather forces before the actual spawn to ensure for best results on keeping that same time in place.

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At what point does the winning roller lose "rights" for the turn in?

The winning player shall have 15 minutes from the time Gloradin Coldheart spawns to turn in their Marching Orders uncontested. It's at/after that 15 minutes other players at the site have equal rights to Gloradin Coldheart turn-in. Meaning, Gloradin Coldheart turn-in and the ring war turn in becomes FFA. Players who wish to claim FFA status must be able to prove with logs/screenshots that Gloradin Coldheart has been up for the allowed time granted the winning roller.
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Tomorrow morning there will be a roll done at 8 30AM EST. These new rules will apply this spawn. See you there and good luck!

I support this. +1

[Rygar]

I don't understand the '8th Ring War shall be done 20 to 45 minutes within Gloradin Coldheart spawning', yet you say they forfeit turn in after 15 minutes.

Seems odd as there is no way if you even turn in at the 15 minute mark that they event will take you 30 minutes to complete. Take out that first 20 to 45 minute remark as it is redundant.

Also you say winner needs to post a new time that is within '20 to 45 minutes' of her spawning. That is ridiculous, post a log time of the actual hand in. Why would you potentially post a spawn time that is 45 minutes off? That would just serve to confuse the winner of the next roll, expecting a pop but having to wait 45 additional minutes. A lot can happen in 45 minutes (have to go to work, wife agro, etc). Shady neckbeards would just post +45 mins each time so they have a better idea of timer and hope to get a FFA hand in.


I used to be an avid supporter of the 'Ring Roll time never moves' but admit 4-5 hours later is ridiculous.

[botrainer]

The roll itself to determine who will get to turn in, and will take place 20 to 45 mins before suspected spawn. The winner then have 15 mins AFTER the spawn to do the turn in that starts the ring war. Also to note, rolls will only take place at the top of the hour or bottom of the hour. So it makes it easy to plan around. Ideally, no one shall have more than one hour to gather forces to take out this event. I don't believe there was any confusion in the rules posting about this. However, to have a roll 5 hours before the spawn was dumb, this change needed to happen. This morning roll went well philp of AG won the roll, gratz my man!

[botrainer]

The top of any hour is XX:00, and the bottom of the hour is XX:30. Don't try and confuse this any more that your trying to do. It's not like we have a ton of hard resets to timers.

[Uuruk]

Thanks for the clarification

[Philaw]

note to self never ever start this quest line on p99

[NextToTheGods]

My only minor objection would be that the turn in rights should be forfeited after 20 minutes of gloridain being up instead of 15 since 20 minutes is the server rule standard for targets were one person has rights to a target (Ragefire being a good example). I don't care much either way though.

[Rygar]

So I understand asking that the rolls occurr at XX:00 or XX:30, perfect sense.

The posting of a new time is where this proposal gets a little bit weird. I see what you are suggesting to allow 'at least 20 minutes' but 'up to 45 minutes' for a new established roll time. Just seems like that should be rephrased else it could further cause confusion and lead to pushing ring rolls into a later window. Should be something like:

If Spawn time is between XX:21 and XX:50 then roll is set at XX:00
If Spawn time is between XX:51 and XX:20 then roll is set at XX:30

That gives you at least 20 minutes but up to 50 minutes before pop and should help prevent time from changing every other day.

Now that I think about it, allowing 15 minutes after pop for FFA is probably too generous and could also be used to push windows back. Christ, people don't even give 30 seconds for a Hadden FTE (remember that thread? lol). Shouldn't the expectation be you have had 20+ minutes to gather folks so as soon as she pops you hand in? I can understand a little leeway as this is a big moment for a lot of people, but even 2 minutes should really be overkill. As you said, expectation is to try to keep her spawn time as close to the same as possible. I don't know what the number should be here, but I think 15 mins is definitely too much.

Lastly, assuming the time you have to actually roll is still 60 seconds? Such as from XX:00-XX:01 or XX:30-XX:31? See no mention of that in the unofficial proposal.

[Pokesan]

ss18 satan can't get here soon enough

[NextToTheGods]

Also it should be stated that only the character winning the roll has rights to the turn in. If you absolutely need to mq the ring 8 you should have the MQ:ee loot the chiefs head and do the final turn in.

[Uuruk]

Also it should be stated that only the character winning the roll has rights to the turn in. If you absolutely need to mq the ring 8 you should have the MQ:ee loot the chiefs head and do the final turn in.

Yes, this is vital.

[Sadiki]

What a fun and healthy gaming environment this is for up and coming lawyers.
If you roll after 61 seconds does a player appointed umpire red card you off the field of play? Seems quite confusing honestly.
This actually has been the case. You either roll at the correct time or get told to leave. This is actually why it's so difficult to move the time, combined with the trolls who deliberately try to refuse to let other people move it when it's hours from the roll time.

[botrainer]

If Spawn time is between XX:21 and XX:50 then roll is set at XX:00
If Spawn time is between XX:51 and XX:20 then roll is set at XX:30


If you sit down and look at it any reasonable human can figure this out. This process is called critical thinking.


Now that I think about it, allowing 15 minutes after pop for FFA is probably too generous and could also be used to push windows back. Christ, people don't even give 30 seconds for a Hadden FTE (remember that thread? lol). Shouldn't the expectation be you have had 20+ minutes to gather folks so as soon as she pops you hand in? I can understand a little leeway as this is a big moment for a lot of people, but even 2 minutes should really be overkill. As you said, expectation is to try to keep her spawn time as close to the same as possible. I don't know what the number should be here, but I think 15 mins is definitely too much.


Allowing for a "forfeit window" is considered an upgrade from the past. In the past, there was no such thing. Installing one now helps field test this new system, and if people find a way to abuse having this "forfeit window" we can re-visit then. However, since this new system has been in place no one has really abused it. The winners have turned in within 3 mins of her spawning.


Lastly, assuming the time you have to actually roll is still 60 seconds? Such as from XX:00-XX:01 or XX:30-XX:31? See no mention of that in the unofficial proposal.

This last issue of "roll time" was something I didn't address, true. Because I'm asking the community to be reasonable and flexible with how long the "roll time" is considered open, and when the roll opens. Last few days there has only been 1 person rolling. How long and when the roll window opens can be handled from, within reasonable time span, of the respected roll times of XX:30, and XX:00. If there are 3 people there at XX:30 and everyone agrees yeah this is enough rollers, then roll. You don't need to wait 5 more mins for more people to show up.

However, I don't think this "roll timer window" should be a big problem with the turn-out I've been seeing since this went into effect.

[botrainer]

What a fun and healthy gaming environment this is for up and coming lawyers.

This actually has been the case. You either roll at the correct time or get told to leave. This is actually why it's so difficult to move the time, combined with the trolls who deliberately try to refuse to let other people move it when it's hours from the roll time.

I don't want to turn in to a Nazi about a video game, and turn people away if they are at the roll within a few mere moments.

This is why this new system allows for the roll time to get moved. It's just asked that this post be updated with the new roll time, and allow one day for people to adjust to the new roll time.

[botrainer]

Also it should be stated that only the character winning the roll has rights to the turn in. If you absolutely need to mq the ring 8 you should have the MQ:ee loot the chiefs head and do the final turn in.

The person who wins the roll should be doing the turn-in. That person should then finish the Ring War too. They shouldn't be selling "MQs" or "turn-in rights." MQ'er should be selling UP TO the 7th ring, and doing 9th ring MQs.

If this becomes an issue with people selling MQ's we can visit it as a form of abuse. Abuse would be if they delay turn-in's too much (trying to find a buyer to log in and turn in), rolling too often stopping others from doing the quest for personal gain, and not for profit. I havent really seen these issues, as of yet.

[zodium]

If you sit down and look at it any reasonable human can figure this out. This process is called critical thinking.

This last issue of "roll time" was something I didn't address, true. Because I'm asking the community to be reasonable and flexible with how long the "roll time" is considered open, and when the roll opens. Last few days there has only been 1 person rolling. How long and when the roll window opens can be handled from, within reasonable time span, of the respected roll times of XX:30, and XX:00. If there are 3 people there at XX:30 and everyone agrees yeah this is enough rollers, then roll. You don't need to wait 5 more mins for more people to show up.

this idea is already doomed and I have no idea why anyone thinks it'll possibly work, especially considering there's been no official response to indicate this is actually "in effect", and since only a minority of people read the forums (which probably explains why there are suddenly no rollers better than anything: they don't know when the roll is anymore.)

oh well, looking forward to mashing U with prepositioned trade windows soon with y'all while we all remember the road to hell is paved with good intentions once this "flexible" system predictably falls apart :>

[Doujou]

Static ring roll should be moved to 1:30PM CST. She got orders turned in at about 1:56pm CST today. Was 4 of us rolling at 7:30AM CST today and that wait was brutal.

[botrainer]

This falls within the rule set. If orders were handed in at 2 56 set the roll should be at 2 30. Someone should have posted and updated turn in time. Start this new time tomorrow. Provide turn in proof to support your claims next time however.

[Doujou]

[Wed Jun 14 13:56:43 2017] Gloradin Coldheart says 'Thank you. I will return to the Dain and inform him that the battle is underway. Please escort Garadain to the battlefield and see that he returns safely. May Brell bless you and bring you victory over these beasts.'

[botrainer]

So the new rule is done at 2:30PM EST, 11:30AM PST? This according to the turn-in being done so late correct? Crazy that the turn-in went unchecked for nearly 6 hours. Sorry I cant attend every roll but I'm glad to see people updating the turn-in time and roll time. Keep up the good work guys!

[Uuruk]

I'll be there. I have 3 alarms set and my mom is supposed to wake me up.

[botrainer]

Can we get a post on the new turn in time? So the roll can be moved? Disappointed someone turned in and didnt post a updated turn in / moved roll time.

From what I can tell the spawn was around 3 20 AM EST, so roll should be at 3AM EST.

[botrainer]

Time has changed, Roll is said to be at 12:30PST 3:30EST. I can confirm a recent turn in time of:

[Sun Jul 16 12:34:03 2017] Gloradin Coldheart says 'Thank you. I will return to the Dain and inform him that the battle is underway. Please escort Garadain to the battlefield and see that he returns safely. May Brell bless you and bring you victory over these beasts.'
[Sun Jul 16 12:34:17 2017] Gloradin Coldheart begins to cast a spell.

Im on PST. CLUE and OMNI were waiting today, I guess many didn't show up. Now those who follow this thread now know. AG I'm guessing also knows along with Europa have the timer too. Enjoy and good luck on the roll.

[isoka]

Turned orders around 4am50 EST this morning. Just FYI

[skarlorn]

this is the nerdiest proposal centered around a ring i've ever heard

if you want it then you better put a ring on it

[aaezil]

jesus, nerds bickering about pixels for 8 pages. So glad i'll never be there.

[Computer Man]

This is just horrible.

[gkmarino]

Fumbling his confidence
And wondering why the world has passed him by
Hoping that he's bent for more than arguments,
And failed attempts to fly, fly
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We were meant to live for so much more
Have we lost ourselves?
Somewhere we live inside
Somewhere we live inside
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We were meant to live for so much more
Have we lost ourselves?
Somewhere we live inside

[Sadiki]

jesus, nerds bickering about pixels for 8 pages. So glad i'll never be there.
Nerds cooperating and posting timers for others for 8 pages, but I wouldn't expect anyone to bother reading anything before jumping in for a troll attempt.

[aaezil]

Such full out denial must be taxing on you. I'm truly sorry to have reminded you.

[Crashking]

Gee while we were at making new rules.. seems no one considered stating, best to keep your 7th ring so you can put it on... show others you are ready to go when attempting a roll so that way when folks from a same guild show up in droves, it won't be to edge the rolling in their favor. Just a way to cut though the BS -- make a system .. it needs checks and balances... too bad the US governments set has been corrupted.

[botrainer]

8th ring war turn was done at 5:28PM PST (8:28PM EST), Ring war roll can be done at 5PM PST. Good luck to everyone! Come get in on the action! Dont let "Homeland Security" guild hold down the spawn!

[Pyrocat]

Rogean saw this thread and decided to do an earthquake

[Evia]

This thread is p99 birth control man. I have been contemplating returning and after reading this shit I think I might just stick with Agnarr and all its problems. At least I don't gotta come up with an elaborate community plan just to complete a fucking quest. Yikes!

[botrainer]

Evia,

If you dont like the way this server works, nothing forces you to play here. However, the progression server(s) on live has many, many issues. Also, I would like to say that on live if you want the newest, latest, greatest stuff, too bad, you're not going to see anything with no oversight to stop the hackers. This really applies to open zone non-raid camp/stuff.

I left live because of the hackers. On here, we are grateful enough to have people willing to roll for certain events.

[Evia]

Evia,

If you dont like the way this server works, nothing forces you to play here. However, the progression server(s) on live has many, many issues. Also, I would like to say that on live if you want the newest, latest, greatest stuff, too bad, you're not going to see anything with no oversight to stop the hackers. This really applies to open zone non-raid camp/stuff.

I left live because of the hackers. On here, we are grateful enough to have people willing to roll for certain events.

Of course I know I don't have to play here if I don't like the way the server works. That's why I haven't been.
And believe me, I know live has a slew of problems. I am definitely not saying it's a glorious alternative. I've had some great years on p99! It's just with the new open vox and Nagy raids I was getting optimistic that the times were changing over here on p99! Reading this thread shows me that it's still unfortunately the same shit show at the end game as it was 2+ years ago.

[Arkanjil]

Does anyone have the current timer for rolls?

[zodium]

Of course I know I don't have to play here if I don't like the way the server works. That's why I haven't been.
And believe me, I know live has a slew of problems. I am definitely not saying it's a glorious alternative. I've had some great years on p99! It's just with the new open vox and Nagy raids I was getting optimistic that the times were changing over here on p99! Reading this thread shows me that it's still unfortunately the same shit show at the end game as it was 2+ years ago.

Can I have your stuff? :o

[Peacocky]

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