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supermonk
06-01-2017, 10:15 AM
it really can't be due to the triple attack patch where no one knows when it's even going to be implemented, right??

gildor
06-01-2017, 10:32 AM
Its the hype-machine and schnickasaurus effect compounded resulting in assinine price creep ...Eqnomics :(

Tupakk
06-01-2017, 10:54 AM
Yeah it's cause of 3x atk

dslaybac
06-01-2017, 10:59 AM
Gonna be a lot more than 50k. Dont say i didnt warn you!

Spyder73
06-01-2017, 11:02 AM
Funny thing is I don't think that T-Staff will get the 2H buff bonus because its attack speed is to low. Triple attack is a level 60 skill? Even with triple attack I would imagine Epic wins until you get into the 2h weapons from ToV. Prince increase is a farce

Nixtar
06-01-2017, 11:14 AM
Like everything else on the server it has been massively farmed(and it'll keep dropping). Hold off and wait for the patch and watch as the price plummets again after everyone trying to Tunnelquest at the same time.

Also, what Spyder said.

Zemus
06-01-2017, 11:17 AM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2450278&postcount=55

Rivera
06-01-2017, 11:37 AM
Funny thing is I don't think that T-Staff will get the 2H buff bonus because its attack speed is to low. Triple attack is a level 60 skill? Even with triple attack I would imagine Epic wins until you get into the 2h weapons from ToV. Prince increase is a farce Lol everything wrong, per par.

Rygar
06-01-2017, 11:52 AM
I don't have a T-Staff, but hard to argue against it's price really. It is essentially a BiS item for monks (essentially, don't rage nerds). I have seen the stuns last super long and chain stun.

If I was soloing (which I do a ton), a stun proc would eliminate a round or two of melee from the creature. This can save me hundreds of HP in a fight.

Its a sweet item. I know it inflated recently (think it was 30k? now 50k?). Frankly I'm surprised it used to be 30k

Izmael
06-01-2017, 11:54 AM
Just because someone asks 50k doesn't mean there's a fool stupid enough to actually put that much in the trade window.

Triiz
06-01-2017, 12:11 PM
it really can't be due to the triple attack patch where no one knows when it's even going to be implemented, right??

The patch is coming any day! Better pay me 50k before it skyrockets......they've been saying for 3+ months. Can't imagine how many of these have been bought to resell after the patch hits. That said, the price will probably keep rising because people are stupid and EC prices are based more on what the last one was auctioned for than actual demand.

With enough time and determination, a tunnel rat can raise the price of pretty much anything of value. They've already started moving up from 50k, seen someone asking 65k the other day.

Spyder73
06-01-2017, 12:20 PM
Lol everything wrong, per par.

Isn't it for "post epic quality weapons" - which T-Staff most certainly is not? Also I remember it being 31 delay and above gets an additional bonus (what I was referring to) when the pre lucilin patch droped.

I am shooting from the hip on this one so I could certainly be wrong

thebutthat
06-01-2017, 12:28 PM
Just because someone asks 50k doesn't mean there's a fool stupid enough to actually put that much in the trade window.

They sure do. Just sold one for 50k not a week ago.

Troxx
06-01-2017, 12:29 PM
because it's not just a good weapon .... its the BEST weapon that is tradable. Next patch it will kill epic/SoS by a large margin

Rivera
06-01-2017, 01:01 PM
I am shooting from the hip on this one so I could certainly be wrong Yes, you are. Per par.

Zemus
06-01-2017, 01:10 PM
Isn't it for "post epic quality weapons" - which T-Staff most certainly is not? Also I remember it being 31 delay and above gets an additional bonus (what I was referring to) when the pre lucilin patch droped.

I am shooting from the hip on this one so I could certainly be wrong

There is a huge jump between 27 and 28 delay. T-staff at 29 should get a good boost. Unless haste is a factor, but I doubt it is.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

Sadiki
06-01-2017, 02:26 PM
48-50k has become the norm for it, but the amount of people selling for 70k+ trying to manipulate the market even further is astounding. P99 is the only emu server with so many people trying to demolish the economy that prices double instead of half.

Tstaff will get a boost, not as large as slower weapons, but it's already one of the best ratios most people can obtain and will likely stay that way.

xKoopa
06-01-2017, 02:57 PM
28 delay should be the sweet number for 2h dmg bonus

Anything faster should get a much smaller bonus

gildor
06-01-2017, 03:41 PM
Summary of Melee Changes:
•Two-Handed Weapons have been given an increased damage bonus for characters over level 50. Also, certain post-epic quality two-handers have been improved.
•Warriors have had their taunt skill cap increased to 230 at 60th level. Also, the Blades of Strategy and Tactics can now be used in either hand.
•Rogues, as the primary user of piercing weapons, will benefit from an improvement in the quality of a few existing high-end daggers. At some future date new piercing weapons will be added to the game to fill gaps in equipment availability.
•Monks will now be on an improved combat table at levels 55 and again to a better table at 60. Monks now have the ability to Triple Attack at 60th level. The minimum damage done by Flying Kick will be greatly increased for monks starting at 51st level and scaling up to level 60. We also intend to add more monk weapons in the future to fill equipment gaps.
•Rangers have their Double Attack skill cap raised to 245. They have also gained an innate offensive bonus that starts at level 55 and increases until level 60. Ranger's Defense skill cap has been raised to 220, and their Riposte skill cap has been raised to 185.
•Paladins and Shadowknights, besides the benefits they gain from the two-handed weapons change mentioned above, have also been moved to the same combat tables as warriors. In the future we intend to examine the existing one-handed weapons useable by knights for possible upgrades. We are also increasing the Taunt skill cap for these two classes to 220.
•Bards have had their 1h blunt and 1h slash skill caps increased to 250. Their piercing skill cap has been increased to 240. Their Offense skill cap has been raised to 252. Bards are also being moved to the same combat table with all the other melee and hybrid classes (save monks who have separate tables after level 55). Bards Parry skill cap has been raised to 185 as well. Finally, the Singing Shortsword can now be equipped in the off hand and still give full song enhancing benefits.

There are the official "Melee Change" patch notes..I was trying to wayback the actual dev forum post with the "details" but there is a gap from 6/1/2001 to late august on the wayback :(

fadetree
06-01-2017, 03:56 PM
Yes, it pretty much does.

Rivera
06-01-2017, 04:33 PM
48-50k has become the norm for it, but the amount of people selling for 70k+ trying to manipulate the market even further is astounding. P99 is the only emu server with so many people trying to demolish the economy that prices double instead of half. 70k+ for best droppable weapon of the most twinked class in the game really isn't bad at all actually. Tons of twink stuff are way more expensive and has less value (I.E: armor items with an added 25 HP to it's nearest competition).

Troxx
06-02-2017, 01:28 AM
What will the new dmg bonus at 60 be for the 30 delay TStaff? I used to have a link to the Lucy tables that broke it down by level and delay.

schnickusaurus
06-02-2017, 02:15 AM
it really can't be due to the triple attack patch where no one knows when it's even going to be implemented, right??

Dont worry man, it will follow the price pattern of Tolan's bracer, ie first hit a 60k high (probably very soon) then go down to to 50k, eventually 45k, then 40k, eventually 35k with a chance to low ball at 30k. It takes time however. At summer 2019 price back to 30k.

Tolan's bracer were at 5-6k for long time (similar to Tstaff 28k-30k). You could even get it for 2.5-3k (similar to 24-25k Tstaff) at one point. Velious was released and Tolan's bracer hit 10k value. Then dropped to 8k. Now after like 2 years Tolan's bracer is down to 5-6k again.

Main point: regardless reasons Tstaff headed towards 30k so dont be sad if you are a monk in need of tstaff. If you need Tstaff short time buy it at 50k but make sure you sell it within half year around 50k or more if lucky.

Baler
06-02-2017, 02:22 AM
Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.
Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.
Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.

This isn't news at this point. People have been talking about it a lot since velious came out on p99.

If you're a scumbag EC fat cat, Start buying up the T-Staffs. The resell profits will be real. :eek:
sad

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The crazy part is the number of them on the server. Just like fungis. The price is too high compared to the sheer number of these floating around.
one aspect of the problem is people go inactive. Another is that people keep them locked away in their bank but never use them. And one more problem is people keep them on their Alt that they no longer main or play actively. @_@ But I assure you there are a fuck load of these, both of them.

It's all about perception. Sellers Perceives something to have X worth. So buyers also Perceives it to be worth X amount. Granted there are some items so insanely rare that it is actual supply/demand but the vast amount of items are just some fictional perception that they're worth a big number. Even if every other person is wearing one and has one in the bank.
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Hype for monk 3x is the only reason. They litterally will not be worth more than they were yesterday or the day before. Kunark has been out far too long for them to cost as much as they do.
For the record I sold a t-staff a couple years ago for 30k firm.

Tarskin
06-02-2017, 05:12 AM
People can always get a peacebringer for 1 damage less (and no stun) if they want a 'cheap' alternative to a t-staff. However, the price for any item will be what people are willing to pay for it.

Tarskin
06-02-2017, 06:32 AM
I know, hence the second part of my statement. I was just trying to 'suggest' an alternative for the people that are complaining about the current price of a t-staff.

Troxx
06-02-2017, 06:58 AM
Or you could buy an IFS for the same price which has a better ratio, isn't ugly as shit, and weighs 6 less than PB.

TStaff just represents the BiS purchasable. Dps-wise it is comparable to though slightly less than epic (quested - not sellable/REsellable) and stave of shielding. After the patch (whenever that may be), TStaff should be more dps prior to level 60 and even a greater degree of more dps at 60 with triple attack. The two hand damage bonus that close to the sweet spot will be a fairly big bump even before triple attack at 60.

All of the above doesn't factor in the unresistable proc (solid damage) which carries an unresistable stun. The proc is what makes it such an amazing item - solo or group - it adds up to a pretty nice defensive perk to whoever is doing the tanking.

The mob that drops it is common and easy but they are really rare. I like to spend a lot of time in KC - just a fun (yeah it's scrub central) place to hunt and there are always groups to be had. In 4 toons through the 50s I've seen two drop despite hundreds of warlord kills. I'd wager it's more rare than fungis. Yes there are lots of them, but there's also 10s or 100s of thousand plat pieces entering the economy daily. Seafury island alone probably pumps 20-30k in daily.

Lots of TStaffs? Sure - but lots and lots of plat out there. You can make/farm 30-50k easily in the time it would take you to get a TStaff to drop -- and then you have to win the roll ...

Mytral
06-02-2017, 07:45 AM
The mob that drops it is common and easy but they are really rare. I like to spend a lot of time in KC - just a fun (yeah it's scrub central) place to hunt and there are always groups to be had. In 4 toons through the 50s I've seen two drop despite hundreds of warlord kills. I'd wager it's more rare than fungis.

Between 5 toons 54+, I've done LCY and Hands hundreds of times more than I've done King in Seb. I've seen dozens of Fungi Tunics. I've never actually seen or heard (while in zone) of a T Staff drop.

kotton05
06-02-2017, 08:05 AM
Funny thing is I don't think that T-Staff will get the 2H buff bonus because its attack speed is to low. Triple attack is a level 60 skill? Even with triple attack I would imagine Epic wins until you get into the 2h weapons from ToV. Prince increase is a farce

Won't be long till your fingers are cut off for typing such blasphemy. Somehow deep down I think you're trolling...

But go ahead explain more how it's not worth?

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

fadetree
06-02-2017, 08:12 AM
All people have to do to combat the evil fat cats is to not buy them at 70k. How come they don't do that? Because, in fact, they are worth that much. If that's what people are willing to pay, then that is exactly how much it's worth.

The truth is, it's the buyers and not the evil fat cats that make the problem. If people stop buying them, I guarantee the price will go down.

Jimjam
06-02-2017, 09:02 AM
I've seen more Skeletal Warlords drop Velium Great Staffs than T-Staffs!

Rygar
06-02-2017, 09:39 AM
Won't be long till your fingers are cut off for typing such blasphemy. Somehow deep down I think you're trolling...

But go ahead explain more how it's not worth?

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

You talking 2hb items? Or 1hb? Only tradeable 2hb item I know of that is better than T-Staff is that insane Trak weapon that no longer drops (hear there is only 1 on server). Possibly Runed Fighter's Staff due to speed, but the lack of damage bonus may make people continue to lean towards the slower weapons.

Are you alluding to IFS having increased damage bonus? I wouldn't call it better than T-Staff due to proc, but it is a fine weapon and I expect the increased price on it when triple attack comes out.

Troxx
06-02-2017, 11:01 AM
IFS will be damn good with the new damage bonuses but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot for delay is 28. IFS will make for some impressively strong hits along with generating both few mob ripostes and BIG pc ripostes on NPCs. Defensively speaking, the stun proc on TStaff will more than make up for the 33% more ripostes (30 delay vs 40).

I'm not sure what other weapon is eluded to other than:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Ton_Po%27s_Bo_Stick_of_Understanding

It no longer drops and there is allegedly only one in existence on blue (none on red)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Special:ClassSlotEquip/Monk/2H_Blunt/AllItems

If you sort this by ratio you'll see that TStaff is the 6th best ratio for monk 2handers in the entire game. IFS is the 7th best. If you take out the one (literally one period in existence) that no longer drops, they rank 5th and 6th best. Numbers 1-4 are raid nodrops and not relevant to discussions regarding market prices. The 19/20 2hb has an inferior ratio to TStaff and will be too fast to see any improvements with the dmg bonus changes.

So yeah ...

-5th best ratio 2hb in the game
-best ratio 2hb tradable in game
-proc that is in a league of its own
-currently competitive dps to epic/SoS
-soon to be frankly better
-rare rare drop
-lots of monks and monk twinks

I bet the price for IFS bumps to the 10-15k range. I expect TStaff market price will go UP from the 50k mark to rival CoF price ... and possibly (maybe) settle in the 50-60 range long term.

kotton05
06-02-2017, 11:15 AM
You talking 2hb items? Or 1hb? Only tradeable 2hb item I know of that is better than T-Staff is that insane Trak weapon that no longer drops (hear there is only 1 on server). Possibly Runed Fighter's Staff due to speed, but the lack of damage bonus may make people continue to lean towards the slower weapons.

Are you alluding to IFS having increased damage bonus? I wouldn't call it better than T-Staff due to proc, but it is a fine weapon and I expect the increased price on it when triple attack comes out.

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from vp. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Raev posted some thread awhile back painting out the actual dps I'll try to find it and you'll be able to see the diff amongst abashi/ifs/tstaff etc.

Samoht
06-02-2017, 11:18 AM
there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from ToV. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Why does this idiot still post here?

Alanus
06-02-2017, 11:29 AM
Warlord is camped 24/7, so there is probably a good amount of them on the server.

However, it's still a rare as hell drop (I spent most of 54-60 in KC and never saw one drop or heard of one). It's also the best droppable weapon for a very popular (among both mains and alts/twinks) class.

So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

kotton05
06-02-2017, 11:31 AM
Why does this idiot still post here?

First quote was talking about why tstaff is going up in price ya doink jeez l2read

Samoht
06-02-2017, 11:40 AM
First quote was talking about why tstaff is going up in price ya doink jeez l2read

No you weren't. You explicitly said there was a weapon better than tstaff that was tradeable and doesn't drop in ToV. Then you said never mind, it is from ToV, and it's no drop.

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

This is a reference to tstaff.

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

This is your allegedly "better" weapon.

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from ToV. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

And here is where you contradict yourself.

Last edited by kotton05; Today at 10:20 AM..

Oh, look, you edited your post. Why don't you just admit you were wrong instead of lying about it?

Spyder73
06-02-2017, 11:45 AM
Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from vp. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Raev posted some thread awhile back painting out the actual dps I'll try to find it and you'll be able to see the diff amongst abashi/ifs/tstaff etc.

Raevs post is also using assumed numbers and multipliers that could be completely bull sh!t so I would not take his post as the word of god until we actually see the upgrade. Speaking of which, I have doubts we will ever even see it....

Would not surprise me at all if they never implement triple attack because what would be the point in making monks more powerful on a time locked server where they are already immensely powerful...

Troxx
06-02-2017, 12:27 PM
So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

With respect to dps ... it is not currently "BIS" if you factor in that most monks who could hunt long enough for one themselves or afford the price tag can easily finish their epic. It's still not BIS yet for raw dps ... but it will be. You could argue it was (is ... and will be even more so) BIS when you factor in the proc though.

Price jumped in anticipation of it being the undeniably BIS weapon absent TOV/VP raid loot.

Would not surprise me at all if they never implement triple attack because what would be the point in making monks more powerful on a time locked server where they are already immensely powerful...

Except for the fact that it is classic and within the scope of where this server is headed and ultimately stopping.

Spyder73
06-02-2017, 12:42 PM
Except for the fact that it is classic and within the scope of where this server is headed and ultimately stopping.

The prelaunch Lucilin patch is debatable if its 'classic' or 'the beginning of the end' and needs to be omitted.

And it is not 'undeniably' a BiS weapon because we have NO IDEA how the patch will be implemented. perhaps the increased monk damage tables will make 1h that much better? We don't know!

turbosilk
06-02-2017, 12:43 PM
It's 50k because the next patch is making all the spa monkeys roll monks.

Troxx
06-02-2017, 02:24 PM
Increased damage tables will work just as well for 2handers as it does for one handers.

Fasttimes
06-02-2017, 02:31 PM
Rangers will still out dps them.

azeth
06-02-2017, 02:46 PM
Rangers will still out dps them.

rogue > warrior > ranger > monk > wizard

my man naethyn knows the deal

Fasttimes
06-02-2017, 02:48 PM
rogue > warrior > ranger > monk > wizard

my man naethyn knows the deal

pretty sure I'd beat him too.

Spyder73
06-02-2017, 02:52 PM
Increased damage tables will work just as well for 2handers as it does for one handers.

If the increased damage table is a flat damage bonus then faster 1h weapons would benefit 100x more than slow 2h weapons. I am assuming the code for this increase is lost to the annals of time so it will literally be whatever Haynar comes up with.

Getting completely reworked damage tables for multiple classes and new (arguably unclassic) skills is something I fear we will never see. You can say triple attack is an 'in era' thing and I will disagree every time - its a Lucilin thing that was put in to balance Beastlords and doesn't belong on P99.

Jimjam
06-02-2017, 03:09 PM
I believe the damage table works as a multiplier on the DMG aspect of weapons. I have nothing to back this up other than fuzzy memory.

If my memory is correct then the damage table change is biased towards weapons that predominantly cause damage through the DMG stat, such as wurmslayers I suppose.

Samoht
06-02-2017, 03:26 PM
It's a flat bonus that scales relative to delay

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

Notice the sweet spot where 2h damage bonus more than doubles at 28 delay starting at level 55.

Troxx
06-02-2017, 06:08 PM
It's a flat bonus that scales relative to delay

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

Notice the sweet spot where 2h damage bonus more than doubles at 28 delay starting at level 55.

TStaff dmg bonus at 60 is 36

1handers cap at 13

So epic at 16 delay ... 60/1.6 = 37.5 ... x13 = 487.5
TStaff at 30 delay ... 60/3 = 20 .... x36 = 720
IFS at 40 delay ... 60/4 = 15 .... x42 = 630

With 100% haste
Epic ... 60/0.8 = 75 ... x13 = 975
TStaff ... 60/1.5 = 40 ... x36 =1440
IFS ... 60/2 = 30 ... x42 = 1260

TStaff and IFS will actually generate more damage from damage bonus than the speedy epic fists. That's really significant. Remember it's that damage bonus that historically has made epic preferable to superior ratio found on AC and SoS.

Jimjam
06-03-2017, 02:21 AM
It's a flat bonus that scales relative to delay

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

Notice the sweet spot where 2h damage bonus more than doubles at 28 delay starting at level 55.

This table shows damage bonus, not damage tables...

Jimjam
06-03-2017, 02:52 AM
From what I remember damage bonus is a flat bonus to damage on each hit, scaling with delay on 2 handed weapons.

Damage table reflects the multiplier on DMG, giving the 20 hit values that can be achieved (before potential bonus damage from strength is added).

From my understanding, the formula is something like di x dt x dmg + ds +db

where di is the damage interval; a whole number from 1 to 20 that is derived on a diceroll that is weighted by an attack/mitigation AC check, dt is a value taken from the damage table that acts as a multiplier on the di or dmg, dmg is obviously dmg stat fromt he weapon, ds is a random damage boost that is derived from strength and db is the fixed damage bonus dependant on level.


(sorry for the double post, but I wanted to edit this in and took too long)

Samoht
06-03-2017, 02:45 PM
This table shows damage bonus, not damage tables...

Yes. Yes it does. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Jimjam
06-03-2017, 03:09 PM
Yes. Yes it does. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Ah, sorry I thought you were continuing with the line of conversation of the previous two posts. My apologies for the sidetrack!

supermonk
06-05-2017, 10:23 AM
Dont worry man, it will follow the price pattern of Tolan's bracer, ie first hit a 60k high (probably very soon) then go down to to 50k, eventually 45k, then 40k, eventually 35k with a chance to low ball at 30k. It takes time however. At summer 2019 price back to 30k.

Tolan's bracer were at 5-6k for long time (similar to Tstaff 28k-30k). You could even get it for 2.5-3k (similar to 24-25k Tstaff) at one point. Velious was released and Tolan's bracer hit 10k value. Then dropped to 8k. Now after like 2 years Tolan's bracer is down to 5-6k again.

Main point: regardless reasons Tstaff headed towards 30k so dont be sad if you are a monk in need of tstaff. If you need Tstaff short time buy it at 50k but make sure you sell it within half year around 50k or more if lucky.

I sold a tstaff several months ago for like 27k once I got bo staff of trosmang (40/35). is tstaff supposed to be better than that?

Victorio
06-05-2017, 12:18 PM
I sold a tstaff several months ago for like 27k once I got bo staff of trosmang (40/35). is tstaff supposed to be better than that?

No because the bo staff gets upgraded to 42/35 in the same patch

mickmoranis
06-05-2017, 02:43 PM
Or you could buy an IFS for the same price which has a better ratio, isn't ugly as shit

this is ridiculous its the same graphic one just has higher opacity lmao people are so weird.

Troxx
06-05-2017, 04:46 PM
this is ridiculous its the same graphic one just has higher opacity lmao people are so weird.

Peacebringer and IFS have very different graphics. Peacebringer is ugly as shit - cracked staff graphic.

IFS and TStaff are similar ... but that's not what the above quote was referring to.

Reading comprehension.

mickmoranis
06-05-2017, 06:27 PM
Peacebringer and IFS have very different graphics. Peacebringer is ugly as shit - cracked staff graphic.

IFS and TStaff are similar ... but that's not what the above quote was referring to.

Reading comprehension.

I am sorry I assumed you were talking about the TSTAFF not a peacebringer, since its what the thread was about and you didnt specify or quote what you were replying to.

Writing for comprehension.

mickmoranis
06-05-2017, 09:46 PM
I have a peacebringer on my red monk (thanks Vaporize, never forgot it), its a good weapon...not bothered about fashionquest on a monk lol

to be fair a monk can be a v fashionable character.

golden plate legs, dark elf mask..

other than that not so much

but thats not a bad look and only requires 2 pretty fucking ridiculously rare items

Troxx
06-06-2017, 01:34 AM
I am sorry I assumed you were talking about the TSTAFF not a peacebringer, since its what the thread was about and you didnt specify or quote what you were replying to.

Writing for comprehension.

The three posts immediately preceding what you quoted from me were discussing peacebringer. Generally, when reading something (be it novel, academic text, or forum quest) it is best to start at the beginning and proceed in an orderly fashion in the direction of the end.

Cheers!

mickmoranis
06-06-2017, 02:02 AM
i bet youre fun at raids

Just facts
06-06-2017, 05:09 AM
Isn't it for "post epic quality weapons" - which T-Staff most certainly is not? Also I remember it being 31 delay and above gets an additional bonus (what I was referring to) when the pre lucilin patch droped.

I am shooting from the hip on this one so I could certainly be wrong

the delay bonus was 40 and above.
this was the patch:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html

don't know if it was ever added here

Jimjam
06-06-2017, 08:07 AM
Thanks for linking that; I have been trying to remember how to do custom emotes for ages!

Custom Emotes and AFK:

Animations with custom emotes have been implemented. Current canned emotes such as /point allow a target other than the current target to be specified. That will continue to work. So if you type "/point Baobob", the usual text will come up. However, you can add custom text to the emote, but you must specify the target as "say" as the target. For instance:
/point say points at a gnoll, indicating that he is ready to kill it.

...your character will execute the /point animation, and the text output will be: "CharacterName points at a gnoll, indicating that he is ready to kill it."

Finally, you can now set a custom message for when you are /AFK. Type "/AFK " (without the brackets) to set your custom AFK message. For instance, if you type "/afk Grabbing a snack", you will reply with "Grabbing a snack" when someone sends you a /tell.

Spyder73
06-06-2017, 08:59 AM
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html

In addition, two-handed weapons have had their damage-bonus modified. The damage-bonus for low-delay two-handed weapons (27 or below) created a problem similar to the weapons above and has been reduced. The damage-bonus has not changed for normal-delay (28-39) two-handed weapons. The damage bonus for high-delay two-handed weapons (40+) has been increased.

Lhancelot
06-06-2017, 09:02 AM
T-staff is now worth double what it was 2 months ago because the EC tunnel decided so.

supermonk
06-06-2017, 09:17 AM
T-staff is now worth double what it was 2 months ago because the EC tunnel decided so.

tbh, this doesn't follow the general p99 trend I've witnessed throughout the years. iirc holgresh beads were still 30k til the day it was nerfed.

Zemus
06-21-2017, 05:54 PM
the delay bonus was 40 and above.
this was the patch:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html

don't know if it was ever added here

Talking about a different patch here

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html

"Two-Handed Weapons have been given an increased damage bonus for characters over level 50. Also, certain post-epic quality two-handers have been improved."

Baler
06-21-2017, 06:43 PM
Zemus wants to sell a Tstaff. Need to bump rising.
ps. I am not affiliated with zemus in any way.