View Full Version : Fastest leveling 14-20: The Bread Quest!
Hello there, new folks. Are you having difficulty leveling? Want to catch up to people who have been around for years? I just might have the quest for you.
I find that ive been showing a lot of new (and even old) players this quest, and its been so frequent that I decided to just make a quick video tutorial out of the quest, doing one full run of it, and demonstrating the experience.
This classic bertox event quest gives from almost a full yellow bubble tapering down until level 30 where it basically stops. From 14-20, it cannot be beat.. unless you are a Druid or Wizard.. then it allows you to go from lowbie teens druid or wizard to a new level 29 hire at Dial a port in a few short hours.
Each gated half-runthrough lasts approximately 4-5 minutes. A full sowed round trip run about 9 or so, and a druid or wizard can do quarter runs in less than 2. Each turn in gives 1-3pp, costs 2 gold, and gives a lot of good human faction. This quest can be run by any class or race combo in the entire game, and requires no faction work.
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7k3R3EF8Y&feature=youtu.be
Got a feeling the Karana plague event will be gone when the corrupted Lesser Faydark gets going. So act fast!
Kytross
06-09-2017, 11:33 PM
When is corrupted lesser fay planned to be implemented?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2537148#post2537148
Soon, those who hunt the sisters may not want to have their back to the forest. :)
Maner
06-10-2017, 12:32 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2537148#post2537148
Which doesnt actually say anything about when, just that it may end up happening...
aaezil
06-10-2017, 12:44 AM
Or you could, you know, play the game
Tupakk
06-10-2017, 01:15 AM
Thanks for the free plug. We will definitely make use of this.
My recording software didn't go ahead on my first run, where I talked about the timeline of this quest and why its there :P
Then my second take had the bit about dial a port ;D But its true!
Tupakk
06-10-2017, 11:49 AM
Either way I plan to do this soonish. If you ever need anything let me know. Or if you find other quick an easy quests that give mass exp. I'd be willing to pay for it as well.
Wow! Looks like word has gotten around
SpangoNuts
06-10-2017, 04:59 PM
I'm sure Hatey is trying to go all the way to 60 with this quest.
Triiz
06-10-2017, 05:05 PM
Telin said it gets removed next patch with Chardok revamp https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2432459&postcount=8
Surprised it took this long to get so popular, when I was doing it a few months ago I never bumped into a single other person doing it. Tann posted a detailed guide a few months ago on this and other Qeynos quests. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152
Edit: also included in that thread is xp per turn in to give people an idea
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2422249&postcount=15
Floraline
06-10-2017, 05:24 PM
I don't think this would work with a Rallos Zek Ogre. Most of the good aligned merchants hate me. I'm playing an Ogre shaman on Agnarr.
Sacer
06-10-2017, 05:39 PM
Works with my iksar necro, not sure if you can get more hated than that.
edit :
And not related but in the video guide you said the aviak are agressive toward iksars, but they are neutral to mine so it's safe to do. Evils only have to take care about the bridge guards and the bard/griffons roaming the zone.
I don't think this would work with a Rallos Zek Ogre. Most of the good aligned merchants hate me. I'm playing an Ogre shaman on Agnarr.
inkeep is dubious and quest doable at dubious. Centuars and merchants indifferent to all
Works with my iksar necro, not sure if you can get more hated than that.
edit :
And not related but in the video guide you said the aviak are agressive toward iksars, but they are neutral to mine so it's safe to do. Evils only have to take care about the bridge guards and the bard/griffons roaming the zone.
In the video I said big races are kos, but not iksars
The only thing that should slow people down is getting 5 points in off def and 3-5 in weaps :p
OP totally stole this from my guide!!! i want compensation please and thank you
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152
I even recorded turn in data
https://i.imgur.com/ArpK9PX.png
Troxx
06-24-2017, 10:53 AM
Still getting 2-3% per run at 29 lol
My two characters are both 30 now. Man, thats a rough level but I'm playing super casual now ;p
mickmoranis
06-24-2017, 10:10 PM
Im sorta confused, is this an original quest or was it added with the corrupted karanas or something? Meaning if I went back in time, could I use it to excel at leveling on the classic live server?
Gumbo
06-24-2017, 11:02 PM
You have to love that people will still find a way to exploit a game after 18 years...
mickmoranis
06-24-2017, 11:10 PM
better than exploiting your life tho u know?
but on another note come on, eq is ALL about the sploits! That gobbo earring, kiting, sneek pulling (rip), cani dancing, run sit med run sit med, stuff like that is what makes the game great! Figuring out how to use the physics of the virtual universe to create magic that normal people, walkn around bumping into eachother, would never expect!
Gumbo
06-24-2017, 11:54 PM
better than exploiting your life tho u know?
but on another note come on, eq is ALL about the sploits! That gobbo earring, kiting, sneek pulling (rip), cani dancing, run sit med run sit med, stuff like that is what makes the game great! Figuring out how to use the physics of the virtual universe to create magic that normal people, walkn around bumping into eachother, would never expect!
All those exploits you mentioned don't give you XP toward levels for basically doing nothing. What the whole Bread Quest is mainly a cheat code and sure to be removed from the code.
But... It does give one to think about how long can one keep turning in the quest before you don't get anything?
Gumbo
06-25-2017, 12:12 AM
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I did go back and edit my reply...
But... It does give one to think about how long can one keep turning in the quest before you don't get anything?
I'm just stating the truth. Enough people have talked about this Bread Quest so we both know that it will be removed from the game or changed so it only goes to a certain level.
Jimjam
06-25-2017, 12:19 AM
All those exploits you mentioned don't give you XP toward levels for basically doing nothing. What the whole Bread Quest is mainly a cheat code and sure to be removed from the code.
But... It does give one to think about how long can one keep turning in the quest before you don't get anything?
You never stop getting rewards from xp quests, its just the xp gained becomes a smaller and smaller fraction of what you need to finish each subsequent level (because each level requires a little more xp than the previous).
Triiz
06-25-2017, 08:28 AM
All those exploits you mentioned don't give you XP toward levels for basically doing nothing. What the whole Bread Quest is mainly a cheat code and sure to be removed from the code.
Did you read the thread?
Telin said it gets removed next patch with Chardok revamp https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2432459&postcount=8
It's a temporary quest, only available while the Karana's are plagued. I guess deathfist belts and goblin ears are an exploit too? When the Karana plague first started one of the GM's specifically said "there's quests worth doing" involving the event, so it's working as intended.
I will say people using two epic cleric's to rez them back and forth between NPC's seems very borderline exploit, but the people doing it without that are not close to exploiting.
trying to get my old thread on this unlocked so i'll bump this one up until then.
Seems like a ton of people are doing this now, back when I made the guide (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152) I didn't see a single person and now during the low pop wee hours of the day there is a good 7-10 folks running back and forth.
Enchanters, druids, and wizards, oh my~
mickmoranis
06-29-2017, 02:52 PM
trying to get my old thread on this unlocked so i'll bump this one up until then.
Seems like a ton of people are doing this now, back when I made the guide (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152) I didn't see a single person and now during the low pop wee hours of the day there is a good 7-10 folks running back and forth.
Enchanters, druids, and wizards, oh my~
this is an awesome thread, but this link you have is an AWESOME guide! cool.
Tupakk
06-29-2017, 03:09 PM
trying to get my old thread on this unlocked so i'll bump this one up until then.
Seems like a ton of people are doing this now, back when I made the guide (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152) I didn't see a single person and now during the low pop wee hours of the day there is a good 7-10 folks running back and forth.
Enchanters, druids, and wizards, oh my~
Trust me if I wouldn't of saw your guide I would of hyped it up a long ass time ago. We are always looking for the quickest way to get our Druids to 29 to start porting.
[Wed Jun 28 12:57:25 2017] Lottsadotts shouts, 'im loling so hard about this bread quest'
[Wed Jun 28 12:57:33 2017] Blackflight says out of character, 'no centars like gold, inn keepers like bread'
[Wed Jun 28 12:57:42 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'do you really knead the bread quest?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:57:55 2017] Lottsadotts says out of character, 'we are bread dealers'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:00 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'a toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, and if we dont get no tolls, we dont eat no rolls.'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:27 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'Why is bread dough so dependable?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:39 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'why'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:41 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'It always rises to the occasion.'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:47 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'I got a better question, whats brown and sticky?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:52 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'a stick'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:54 2017] Lottsadotts says out of character, 'the bread just keeps on giving'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:55 2017] You tell your party, 'OH MY GOD BREAD JOKES WHYYYY'
[Wed Jun 28 12:58:57 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'Dangit'
[Wed Jun 28 12:59:33 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'where does a fish keep its money?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:59:43 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'I dont know, where?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:59:49 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'the river bank'
[Wed Jun 28 12:59:54 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'What did the bread say after it was threatened by the butter?'
[Wed Jun 28 12:59:56 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'ohhh'
[Wed Jun 28 13:00:08 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'IDK what?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:00:10 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'How dairy you!'
[Wed Jun 28 13:00:20 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, '*fog horn*'
[Wed Jun 28 13:00:34 2017] Seijuro says out of character, 'come butter my cheeks'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:20 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'Where does persian bread come from?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:30 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'persia?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:30 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'The middle yeast!'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:35 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'How do you make holy water?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:50 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'how?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:51 2017] You say out of character, 'Look at what you've done, bread quest people...I hope you're happy'
[Wed Jun 28 13:01:55 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'you Boil the Hell out of it.'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:08 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'how does moses make his coffee?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:16 2017] Mystiria says out of character, 'form a guild of bread questers :p'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:27 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'idk what?!'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:30 2017] Bamlab says out of character, 'hebrews it'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:41 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'lol'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:43 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'wakka wakka'
[Wed Jun 28 13:02:59 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'what do you call a sleepwalking nun?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:03:19 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'A Roamin' Catholic'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:06 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'did you hear about the guy who tried to catch fog?'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:16 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'he mist'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:22 2017] Lottsadotts says out of character, 'LOL'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:23 2017] Psychopatchic shouts, 'hah'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:29 2017] Lottsadotts says out of character, 'thanks dude i just spilt my drink'
[Wed Jun 28 13:04:36 2017] Mojax says out of character, 'lol'
Troxx
06-30-2017, 02:53 AM
Still good xp at 30 (though hell level). For the druid class it is apparently some of the best xp all the way to 34. Without self sow and port I probably would have stopped at 29 if not sooner.
trying to get my old thread on this unlocked so i'll bump this one up until then.
Seems like a ton of people are doing this now, back when I made the guide (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259152) I didn't see a single person and now during the low pop wee hours of the day there is a good 7-10 folks running back and forth.
Enchanters, druids, and wizards, oh my~
Thats because nobody can read anymore and needs 5 minute clips to do stuff huehue :p
Btw my fave bread jokes involve the inkeeper suffering from constipation and every SK camp check being responded to with "bread"
while were on the subject, i saw an iksar necro doing this yesterday. so in case anyone was wondering if baddies can do this quest the answer is yes. just avoid the guards at the bridge and the bard
server pop around 600 this time of day, bread quest intensifies:
http://i.imgur.com/UDcvGxZ.png
Canelek
06-30-2017, 01:11 PM
Jarlen huh? Now I understand why folks got mad when I killed him the other day. Sorry folks!
He was blue, so...
Troxx
07-01-2017, 03:03 AM
Hey my Druid is in that picture.
I'm famous!!
nilzark
07-01-2017, 10:45 AM
Is this exploitation?
tiadashi
07-01-2017, 01:26 PM
Is this exploitation?
No its a quest
Baler
07-01-2017, 03:21 PM
This thread wouldn't even have half the views if it didn't use the bling words "fastest leveling". Which is funny as heck because this is in fact not the fastest 14-20 leveling.
I also believe new players should avoid this because it will set them up to thinking the game is easier than it really is. And when they get higher in level they'll be more prone to feeling like the game is too hard and possibly quitting.
Tupakk
07-01-2017, 03:26 PM
This thread wouldn't even have half the views if it didn't use the bling words "fastest leveling". Which is funny as heck because this is in fact not the fastest 14-20 leveling.
I also believe new players should avoid this because it will set them up to thinking the game is easier than it really is. And when they get higher in level they'll be more prone to feeling like the game is too hard and possibly quitting.
Depends who is using it to level. If this is someone's 4th 5th alt and they want to bang out some levels with TLs and coths and gates round robin I'm sure it could go pretty fast.
Lhancelot
07-02-2017, 05:15 PM
Depends who is using it to level. If this is someone's 4th 5th alt and they want to bang out some levels with TLs and coths and gates round robin I'm sure it could go pretty fast.
This quest is pretty efficient to level an alt if you want to just push XP asap.
Nagoya
07-04-2017, 06:27 PM
This thread wouldn't even have half the views if it didn't use the bling words "fastest leveling". Which is funny as heck because this is in fact not the fastest 14-20 leveling.
I also believe new players should avoid this because it will set them up to thinking the game is easier than it really is. And when they get higher in level they'll be more prone to feeling like the game is too hard and possibly quitting.
you almost speak as if p99 was a new game that some new people discovered and joined every now and then. I mean, 99.99% of the population is well aware of the reality of the game and if someone is lvl 1-30 chances are that this is not at all their first character nor their highest level character either. I do agree that this is not the "fastest way to level 14-20" tho, some PL techniques are much faster than this hehe. However in solo and without twinking (incl. quest item "twinking" like buying four stacks of gnoll scalps or something) it might be.
Long story short, as a non-twink non-PL solo-self found way to level an alt it is a very very fast way to 12-22, temporary "exploit" under control and i don't think that will hurt either the game itself or anyone's experience so whatever, let's enjoy it while we can ;)
Tankdan
07-04-2017, 07:40 PM
Also if ur a Druid/Wiz you can bind in Qeynos and go kill the gnolls outside splitpaw, loot the 4 Lore thingies they drop, gate and turn them in.. Insane exp like half a level each gate. Think its high 20s low 30s? I'm too lazy to check. edit: Gem Inlaid Gauntlet quest. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=782
Troxx
07-05-2017, 12:55 AM
Also if ur a Druid/Wiz you can bind in Qeynos and go kill the gnolls outside splitpaw, loot the 4 Lore thingies they drop, gate and turn them in.. Insane exp like half a level each gate. Think its high 20s low 30s? I'm too lazy to check. edit: Gem Inlaid Gauntlet quest. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=782
If they're not camped. I did this for a bit on my druid before level level 34 and with competition, overall drop rate, and down time the bread quest was faster. It took about 2 minutes a cycle as a Druid.
Mordyth
07-05-2017, 02:33 AM
Can someone tell me if the inkeepers shown in the videos are KOS to ikky necros?
Troxx
07-05-2017, 04:41 AM
Iksar necro can do the quest.
Triiz
07-05-2017, 09:57 AM
If they're not camped. I did this for a bit on my druid before level level 34 and with competition, overall drop rate, and down time the bread quest was faster. It took about 2 minutes a cycle as a Druid.
The ones inside before double doors are hardly ever camped, higher ZEM, more spawns, and able to be single pulled to safe room. I've got 3% turning 3 of those scrolls in on a lvl 55, pretty ridiculous. Think it's close to 8-9% a scroll up to 39, but it's been a while.
One thing that wasn't mentioned is hand them in individually. I think if you hand in 3 at once you get same xp as 1, but again it's been a while.
Halfelfbard
07-06-2017, 03:55 PM
Im gonna farm this dude.
Ive been level 30 on my shaman for a few weeks. I might start breading again in the 30's, the group game is pretty bust. Sol is usually empty, and Mistmoore/Unrest/Highkeep are on 24/7 lockdown with people who group for 8 hours+ straight :P I dont have the time to wait for spots THAT long
Gumbo
07-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Ive been level 30 on my shaman for a few weeks. I might start breading again in the 30's, the group game is pretty bust. Sol is usually empty, and Mistmoore/Unrest/Highkeep are on 24/7 lockdown with people who group for 8 hours+ straight :P I dont have the time to wait for spots THAT long
You going to do keep doing the bread quest for the rest of the hell levels as well?
Nah, I made it to 31 and its alright again. Its not so much the double level xp as the mob availability for this level set as a good character
sox7d
07-09-2017, 01:19 PM
Online reports of this being nerfed months before Luclin release.
https://www.graffes.com/forums/showthread.php?4774-Got-lv-20-Wanna-make-lv-29-and-not-kill-a-thing/page3&
Looks like you guys are gonna have to actually play the game again. :(
tiadashi
07-09-2017, 02:18 PM
Online reports of this being nerfed months before Luclin release.
https://www.graffes.com/forums/showthread.php?4774-Got-lv-20-Wanna-make-lv-29-and-not-kill-a-thing/page3&
Looks like you guys are gonna have to actually play the game again. :(
Cant wait that means we would actually get a patch here in p99 8)
aaezil
07-09-2017, 02:30 PM
lol learn how to charm or solo noobs
jolanar
07-10-2017, 09:10 AM
Honestly after 20 the exp sucked, wasn't worth it unless you are a class that absolutely can't solo and can't find a group.
Celendor
07-11-2017, 04:02 AM
well the exp has been nurfed. It is at least quartered of what it was, if not lower.
I know folks don't like this, but when a small overall percentage of folks were doing it, why mess with it like this? The quest was not going to be permanent anyway. I just dont get why folks have to hate on how individuals choose to spend their time when it is different than the norm.
Celendor
07-11-2017, 02:08 PM
the exp off of this has been dropped big time. I was getting a solid 2% per turn in, now it takes 3 turns to get 1%
Triiz
07-11-2017, 02:30 PM
the exp off of this has been dropped big time. I was getting a solid 2% per turn in, now it takes 3 turns to get 1%
During the same level or did you ding into a hell level? Anyone else think it's been nerfed?
Gotta say, I was a supporter of this quest, but after hearing/seeing how it was exploited to death, I hope they did ninja nerf it.
DanielChia
07-11-2017, 02:37 PM
I think it was nerfed. i was doing it 2 months ago on my druid, and i was still getting 3% at lvl 27. and just now tested it on my 13 monk, and im getting 3%\
update: Just tested on my 20 Wiz, went to the Gfay turn in. got 5% . looks like they ninja nerfed James because it was too easy to cheese on the bridge.
cubiczar
07-11-2017, 05:11 PM
I think it was nerfed. i was doing it 2 months ago on my druid, and i was still getting 3% at lvl 27. and just now tested it on my 13 monk, and im getting 3%\
Yeah it got stealth nerfed Sunday evening, inevitable really but pretty funny watching 30 people just running back and forth across a zone line 😀. Sadly it was disrupting people camping guards when people were doing some poor pulling of the quest mobs. Then the inevitable retaliation and killing of the quest mobs. Could have been handled better by both sides but such is the way of things.
Troxx
07-12-2017, 01:00 AM
Confirmed nerfed? Not that I care ... it was a cute/funny way to get xp on my Druid but it's boring as hell.
Just facts
07-12-2017, 04:19 AM
It's still a good quest for iksar to get good faction with vendors.
Used it on my lev 25 iksar, exp was realy bad compared to killing blue mobs but after 4-5h i could buy stuff from the vendors, this was before the nerf.
The nerf was expected IMO, look at it from the plat gain point of view instead of the exp gains.
2gp given to the centaur results in 1-3pp reward from Inkeep James, not too shabby. Now y'all pulling the quest npc's to their respective bridges cutting the travel time out and you got a nifty way of printing plat...
ziffiz
07-12-2017, 10:19 AM
I passed by there last night and there were 10-12 people there still running the quest. Maybe they didnt get the memo. For druids and wizards it may still be worthwhile.
Lhancelot
07-12-2017, 11:19 AM
Glad I worked my wizard to 29 before they nerfed it. heh, that sucks.
cubiczar
07-12-2017, 11:24 AM
The nerf was expected IMO, look at it from the plat gain point of view instead of the exp gains.
2gp given to the centaur results in 1-3pp reward from Inkeep James, not too shabby. Now y'all pulling the quest npc's to their respective bridges cutting the travel time out and you got a nifty way of printing plat...
Well yeah if you count all the people doing it, but individually it's not like you are getting rich. Leveled my druid from 14-20 and got maybe 200pp. I mean sure easy plat and would pay for spells but not like you're getting rich. As far as collective plat from everyone doing it, yeah it's generating a fair amount :)
Canelek
07-12-2017, 12:17 PM
Then the inevitable retaliation and killing of the quest mobs.
Very classic.
djvyhle
07-12-2017, 01:52 PM
Looks to have been nerfed.
I'm wanting to edit my post to say its nerfed now. Ill annotate the video later
sox7d
07-14-2017, 11:28 AM
Way to fuck up a good thing p1999!
LOL
Brocode
07-14-2017, 11:54 AM
its just like regular eq, if you manage to take advantage in honest ways they ban the quest, the quest been here forever? but was never famous, once it get famous, it get nerfed.
Canelek
07-14-2017, 12:51 PM
its just like regular eq, if you manage to take advantage in honest ways they ban the quest, the quest been here forever? but was never famous, once it get famous, it get nerfed.
The quest is a part of the Karana Bertox plague event, and will be going away as soon as the Chardok 2.0, et al patch is released.
That said, it was absolutely justified in being nerfed. The game has bugs, or unintended features, if you will, like any other bit of software. Folks figured out how to take advantage of the mechanics and exploited the shit out of it. So, it got the nerf bat. I'm not condemning anyone for taking advantage of that (this is a fucking game after all), but there is certainly no cause to blame management for taking the exploit away.
There are workarounds, of course, but why take the development cycles when a quick value change can be done on the fly?
loramin
07-14-2017, 01:09 PM
its just like regular eq, if you manage to take advantage in honest ways they ban the quest, the quest been here forever? but was never famous, once it get famous, it get nerfed.
If it was a mistake the devs made sure, but in almost every other case if a bug was there in classic, the P99 team keeps it. That's how P99 works: it's about re-creating the past, not "fixing" it.
IMHO the "nerf" wasn't just because the quest was popular, it was because one of two things happened. Either:
when they first coded the quest they screwed up and made the quest give too much XP (more than live did), like they did with gnoll fangs or WL giants faction. This sort of thing is bound to happen given the fractured Wayback machine info they're using, and the supposed "nerf" wasn't a nerf at all, just them fixing a mistake to make things more classic
it had do with the player fights: the one time staff seems willing to make an exception to the "keep it classic" rule is when keeping it classic would make life difficult for the staff (eg. the un-classic "AoEs only hit 25 mobs at once" change)
So maybe they did it to fix a mistake, or maybe they did it to save staff sanity, but I highly doubt it was just because it was popular. There are far too many examples of popular "wrong but classic" things like item recharging in the game that would have been removed if the staff only cared about nerfing what's popular.
Aalderon Crystafire
07-14-2017, 02:38 PM
If it was a mistake the devs made sure, but in almost every other case if a bug was there in classic, the P99 team keeps it. That's how P99 works: it's about re-creating the past, not "fixing" it.
IMHO the "nerf" wasn't just because the quest was popular, it was because one of two things happened. Either:
when they first coded the quest they screwed up and made the quest give too much XP (more than live did), like they did with gnoll fangs or WL giants faction. This sort of thing is bound to happen given the fractured Wayback machine info they're using, and the supposed "nerf" wasn't a nerf at all, just them fixing a mistake to make things more classic
it had do with the player fights: the one time staff seems willing to make an exception to the "keep it classic" rule is when keeping it classic would make life difficult for the staff (eg. the un-classic "AoEs only hit 25 mobs at once" change)
So maybe they did it to fix a mistake, or maybe they did it to save staff sanity, but I highly doubt it was just because it was popular. There are far too many examples of popular "wrong but classic" things like item recharging in the game that would have been removed if the staff only cared about nerfing what's popular.
The Both the pre-nerf XP and the nerf are classic. The research we did before it was implemented showed that it was meant to give the whopping XP and was nerfed in the July 24th patch. The sudden explosion of people doing it here served as a reminder that the nerf was overdue.
I don't recall seeing posts or threads where people were dragging Jarlen Meadowgreen to the zoneline and snaring him, however. Not that it wouldn't have been possible... but Verant/SOE likely would've done something about it even sooner.
From June to July of 2001 (pre-nerf) the quest should give ~half a yellow per turn in at level 12. Was it giving much more than this?
I found out the other day that its not really nerfed you just need to find the right in keeper to give your breads to. but you would need a porter to get you there, I don't have gate yet so it really not doable for me yet so i will do the nk one till 12th as i would need port to Gfey and port to NK there you go I spilled the beans
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