Guild Summary?

[myxomatosii]

I don't want to trouble anyone for time, but I'm a player from 2010-2013 era. Can anyone sum up the current state of guilds in 100 words or less? Feel free to take liberties.

Considering jumping back in which requires joining a guild, etc. Curious what my options are.

[Pokesan]

join Awakened if you want the most mobs

[myxomatosii]

http://i.imgur.com/aIj2TkL.gif

So nothing has changed except the shifting of the crown from TMO to...

[Lojik]

So nothing has changed except the shifting of the crown from TMO to...

...to Awakened...pretty much. I guess Aftermath gets a good share too, and one of those two will completely dominate for 10 days when the other of those two gets a suspension. Lots more targets now than kunark, lots more raid rules, still plenty of whatever version of poopsocking is en vogue. Some lawyers available to explain raid rules in layman's terms for a fee. CSG and other guilds get some targets, but not often will it be vulak/KT/Tunare or any of the really big merbs.

[Baler]

From what I've learned reading these forums. Consider yourself luck if you find yourself in a guild where upper management isn't totally insane. Pixels do something to these people.. It's a sickness.
Oh sure on the surface they seem calm and ready. But deep down it's all about mom's spaghetti. (having people stare at walls for 23 hours a day waiting for a raid pop. So they can bat phone their army of pixel hoarders.)

But don't take my word for it.. Pick any major raid guild and read between the lines. Or spend a few years checking the forums.

[Tupakk]

Dial a Port is king, Join them and rule the server!!

[skarlorn]

Awakened or Aftermath if you want to sacrifice real life health for dragon pixels, Rustle if you wanna be a faux-casual edgelord raider (but cool)

what sort of game activity are you wanting to enjoy friend?

[Caiu]

:'(

[myxomatosii]

Awakened or Aftermath if you want to sacrifice real life health for dragon pixels, Rustle if you wanna be a faux-casual edgelord raider (but cool)

what sort of game activity are you wanting to enjoy friend?

I was in BDA for like 12 seconds when I first joined the server, their politics are insane and I accidentally got caught up in them when I told a guy in CoM to stop being a dick back in 2011. They booted me, fuck you forever stupid BDA officers. I even had screenshots and witnesses, nope. I lose. "Friend of an officer" shouldn't be royalty, but in BDA.. it was.

Then Enraptured, they were nice and like a family. I loved it.

Then TMO, they were nice but a bit intense/fickle. It was okay. Never felt comfortable speaking in guild chat.

Then I helped noobs for two years leading KWSN.

I like helping people, but would be nice to be able to help people who are all 55+.

Does Coeur still play? I want to be like Coeur, one of my long-time friends who I haven't spoken to in years.

TLDR - I want to be a kind raider who helps others.

[branamil]

Does Coeur still play? I want to be like Coeur, one of my long-time friends who I haven't spoken to in years.



She has given me a bunch of clutch rezzes. I see her running all over to the most inaccessible zones to Rez people. Super nice. Haven't seen her in a week or two though.

[LiQuid]

Coeur has rezzed all my stupid alts so many damn times in this game. I made a cleric so I could be like Coeur some day.

[BirryDaKir]

The main raiding guilds are Awakened and Aftermath (collectively referred to as A/A and considered to be "hardcore"), Rustle (somewhere on the line between casual and hardcore) and CSG (a group of 3 guilds who raid as a group)

I'm not sure how it was back when you played, but the forums paint an ugly picture of the end game raid scene. Even in the "hardcore" guilds it is easy to maintain a healthy balance and not go full neckbeard (although some do, but that is true with any game.)

I actually played more when I was in a casual guild as raids lasted hours and hours. In Awakened I can sign in, kill the target mob, and sign out all in around 20 or 30 mins. If you are interested in end game raiding I suggest giving it a try and decide for yourself rather than adopt the picture painted in the forums.

[skarlorn]

Yeah buddy I raided in BDA for a couple years. It was absolute toxic politics, but I survived because a good friend of mine became an officer so I was favored by the corrupt loot council.

I just left AM because you have to make 20% of raids to pass app and keep 10% attendance to bid. I like raiding but I'm no longer willing to prioritize it. Like ever lol.

So I'll probably join Rustle. I know a good number of ppl in it, smaller and more casual friendly than A/A,also a bit more fun loving and tongue in cheek.

Either way dude hope to see you around soon! We can go port around and rez noobs and give items to young Hobbits. Full circle =)

[Snackies]

Enraptured #1 guild.

Good to see you're still around dude, not many of us left!

Also missed ur sig.

[Sancta]

you have to make 20% of raids

no longer willing to prioritize it

Something doesn't add up here lol

[Tann]

I don't blame you, KWSN is on life support with about 0-1 people online at any given time. I'll hold the fort up just toss me a pm if you wanna come back!

[kotton05]

The main raiding guilds are Awakened and Aftermath (collectively referred to as A/A and considered to be "hardcore"), Rustle (somewhere on the line between casual and hardcore) and CSG (a group of 3 guilds who raid as a group)

I'm not sure how it was back when you played, but the forums paint an ugly picture of the end game raid scene. Even in the "hardcore" guilds it is easy to maintain a healthy balance and not go full neckbeard (although some do, but that is true with any game.)

I actually played more when I was in a casual guild as raids lasted hours and hours. In Awakened I can sign in, kill the target mob, and sign out all in around 20 or 30 mins. If you are interested in end game raiding I suggest giving it a try and decide for yourself rather than adopt the picture painted in the forums.

Saving this one for posterity. in a few weeks I expect to see the 20-30min time frame grow as pressure to engage early increases.

[Lhancelot]

Something doesn't add up here lol

Pretty clear to me, in his life 20% of those raids was too much of a priority. He wants to do what he wants when he wants to do it.

[BirryDaKir]

Saving this one for posterity. in a few weeks I expect to see the 20-30min time frame grow as pressure to engage early increases.

It would seem to me the new rules will speed up kills rather than slow them down, but we will see.

[skarlorn]

It would seem to me the new rules will speed up kills rather than slow them down, but we will see.

Its going to be a big increase on the demand for your time and attention

[MilanderTruewield]

Stembolt!

Hey man, glad to hear that you are back. What character do you play regularly?

As far as guilds go, when I left KWSN, I went to Anonymous. Spent a large amount of time there, they were (and still are) good people. Carkle left the guild a long time ago and Fugues became guild leader... when he retired/left the game, Kiyarah took over, as far as I know she is still head honcho over there.

I left Anonymous after talking to Speedi pretty extensively about Rustle, and that's where I've been since. It's a laid back atmosphere for the most part, very casual. There is no raid percentage requirement for anything, so it's completely optional if you log in to participate in batphoned raids or not.

Carkle went to Kittens Who Say Meow, believe it or not, and apparently is having fun with them. I don't know much about the guild other than they are not ever in the RNF forum, unlike certain others.

Anyway, glad to see that you're back!

[Alanus]

Dial a Port is king, Join them and rule the server!!

This is correct. We control the porting business, so thus, we control everything

[Troxx]

Pretty clear to me, in his life 20% of those raids was too much of a priority. He wants to do what he wants when he wants to do it.

In terms of actual time invested physically playing? Doesn't sound that bad. When you consider the nature of raiding on p99 ... 20% of raids that could happen 24/7 whenever a bat phone goes off?

That's an awful lot of potential time to dedicate to pixelquest. Considering 10-12 hours of my waking time daily (5 days a week barring federal holidays and down days) is at work - add in another hour for transit to and from and doing shit like taking a shower ... and another 6-8 is sleep time that will not be interrupted to play EQ (I'm too old for that shit) - that leaves at worst 2-3 hours (10-15% of my 'time') any given day to play EQ. Yeah ... I and many others can't raid like that. We have jobs and families, and they come first. While I probably play plenty of total hours to raid in p99, carving out a few hours 2-3x a week is a far cry from being on call 24/7 just to hit that 20% as an app.

If you could just join the horde and be available when you're available ... slowly build some dkp to get something nice once in a blue moon ... that'd be much more reasonable.

[skarlorn]

In terms of actual time invested physically playing? Doesn't sound that bad. When you consider the nature of raiding on p99 ... 20% of raids that could happen 24/7 whenever a bat phone goes off?

That's an awful lot of potential time to dedicate to pixelquest. Considering 10-12 hours of my waking time daily (5 days a week barring federal holidays and down days) is at work - add in another hour for transit to and from and doing shit like taking a shower ... and another 6-8 is sleep time that will not be interrupted to play EQ (I'm too old for that shit) - that leaves at worst 2-3 hours (10-15% of my 'time') any given day to play EQ. Yeah ... I and many others can't raid like that. We have jobs and families, and they come first. While I probably play plenty of total hours to raid in p99, carving out a few hours 2-3x a week is a far cry from being on call 24/7 just to hit that 20% as an app.

If you could just join the horde and be available when you're available ... slowly build some dkp to get something nice once in a blue moon ... that'd be much more reasonable.

This is a great post, something I personally haven't cared to elucidate against the forum trolls claiming 20% RA is only 3 hours a week /played.

Factor in wipe time (it happens), bad pulls, moving your character to and from raid targets, suddenly raiding is a part time job that's not on your schedule.

[myxomatosii]

Stembolt!

Hey man, glad to hear that you are back. What character do you play regularly?

As far as guilds go, when I left KWSN, I went to Anonymous. Spent a large amount of time there, they were (and still are) good people. Carkle left the guild a long time ago and Fugues became guild leader... when he retired/left the game, Kiyarah took over, as far as I know she is still head honcho over there.

I left Anonymous after talking to Speedi pretty extensively about Rustle, and that's where I've been since. It's a laid back atmosphere for the most part, very casual. There is no raid percentage requirement for anything, so it's completely optional if you log in to participate in batphoned raids or not.

Carkle went to Kittens Who Say Meow, believe it or not, and apparently is having fun with them. I don't know much about the guild other than they are not ever in the RNF forum, unlike certain others.

Anyway, glad to see that you're back!

Normally I log onto Stembolt when I want to check out the world, Useful or Bookmedder when I want to take on difficult targets with a team, and Unkiller usually just to rez folks and generally be helpful. So a bit of everything.

Funny I ran into Carkle and Scryos almost immediately upon logging in to help some players in Unrest.

This is a great post, something I personally haven't cared to elucidate against the forum trolls claiming 20% RA is only 3 hours a week /played.

Factor in wipe time (it happens), bad pulls, moving your character to and from raid targets, suddenly raiding is a part time job that's not on your schedule.

Exactly, it's the "maintanence" that takes all the time. Maxing resistances with BiS resist gear, keeping items recharged, getting to each location in advance. Helping other people get to the location when they're doing the same thing nearby. The 'kill' is normally a 0-60 acceleration, happens in seconds, it's the overhead that really dominates time.

[Maner]

Saving this one for posterity. in a few weeks I expect to see the 20-30min time frame grow as pressure to engage early increases.

Pulled Aary in with 18 people last night. Fight lasted well over 30min but thats what happens when you do less with more.


Did i do that right?

Pretty clear to me, in his life 20% of those raids was too much of a priority. He wants to do what he wants when he wants to do it.

Then raiding in EQ obviously isnt something he should have tried to do.

Its going to be a big increase on the demand for your time and attention

It was actually a lot less of a demand. We went from needing 5-10 trackers / runners to just using 1 tracker. But you wouldn't know that since you bailed on an app process that is 10x easier than joining a raiding guild on live was.

If you could just join the horde and be available when you're available ... slowly build some dkp to get something nice once in a blue moon ... that'd be much more reasonable.

Which is exactly what you do unless you want to go hard core and be a tracker too. You can manually set what times you get bat phones and when you wont get alerts. This week for example i think the average time per raid was 20-30min for any batphone target. Some were killed in under 10min from spawn. If you pick the right targets you can reach the RA with 2-3 hours a month....

[skarlorn]

It was actually a lot less of a demand. We went from needing 5-10 trackers / runners to just using 1 tracker. But you wouldn't know that since you bailed on an app process that is 10x easier than joining a raiding guild on live was.


Great, I'm happy to hear it's easing the load on you guys. Hope you can get over the fact that I didn't want to stay.

[kotton05]

He got out just in time to watch the downfall. Yea tracking was easier I will give you that.... but I got evidence of pure atrocious struggling in kunark. Which is silly in velious gear with 25+ ... How can one be that bad

[Legday]

It is a little tougher now on the casual leaning players in the hardcore guilds. Technically the pull and kill will be overwith a little quicker. For example Eashen will come straight in to camp and be dead in 5-10 minutes tops if all goes well. In the old ruleset the FTE would be locked and the attempt would take place sometimes 20-30 minutes after that while people filter in and buff up/get organized.

The main difference here is that in the old ruleset the non-tracking types began to curb their expectations on how long that set up process would take and many wouldn't bother logging in until they perceived the pull was about to take place. This happened for so long that people got really good at predicting these buffers in time. Now with the pull happening ASAP after the spawn, every raider in a hardcore guild is expected to be parked in specific spot, buffed, and be ready to make plays on the fly as soon as they hit Enter World.

[Maner]

He got out just in time to watch the downfall. Yea tracking was easier I will give you that.... but I got evidence of pure atrocious struggling in kunark. Which is silly in velious gear with 25+ ... How can one be that bad

Aww still stuck on track. Come back when rustle actually tries to instant engage something.

The idea that this is somehow going to destroy A/A just proves people have no idea what is going on.

I loved the people in rustle who didn't even know what LTK was last night. Keep up the good work merkk

[EliteJackson]

This was a great thread to get insight into the raid game on this server.

All the epic value of the raid fights is seemingly gone, it's apparently a massive grind to claim FTE and loot shit 60 seconds later.

Dying over and over in Kedge sounds more exciting, which is fortunately what I have been doing with my time.