All Wizard raid guild - possible?

[Lhancelot]

I was just thinking. Would it be possible to have so many wizards in a guild that if they all cast the proper nukes at one time, could they instantly kill dragons all in one shot?

If so, why not make an all wizard guild? Wouldn't that be pretty efficient?

[xKoopa]

Classic kunark sure

Velious dragons have too much hp for this to work

[Spyder73]

Would be better to have 50 Shadow Knights. Everyone disc and Harm Touch...could probably insta gib most Kunark era dragons. I think they ended up nerfing HT on live because of tactics such as this.

[Alanus]

Would be better to have 50 Shadow Knights. Everyone disc and Harm Touch...could probably insta gib most Kunark era dragons. I think they ended up nerfing HT on live because of tactics such as this.

People did that during Luclin with mana burn wizards and fearless paladins against Kunark dragons. There was "team manaburns" on most servers and a group of 3-4 decently equipped fearless paladins could take out any Kunark dragon. Manaburn got nerfed because of that. During PoP, decently equipped paladins could solo Kunark dragons pretty easily. I wouldn't be shocked if Slay Undead paladins did it to Venril during Luclin, either (I soloed him during PoP using the PoWater weapon with a double slay undead proc)

[Tupakk]

I was just thinking. Would it be possible to have so many wizards in a guild that if they all cast the proper nukes at one time, could they instantly kill dragons all in one shot?

If so, why not make an all wizard guild? Wouldn't that be pretty efficient?

Gotta have a tank.


And the resists would prolly kill your mana pool if nott he tank dying before you get a few casts in.

Minimum 50 lvl 60 wizards would be my guess to attempt.
Shooting from the hip.

[Tenlaar]

Would be better to have 50 Shadow Knights. Everyone disc and Harm Touch...could probably insta gib most Kunark era dragons. I think they ended up nerfing HT on live because of tactics such as this.

I think this was a problem on the progression servers at first too, because as usual the live PCs are overtuned for classic content at this point. People had level 52 SK box armies they would log in and insta-kill Vox/Naggy that way.

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[Spyder73]

I think this was a problem on the progression servers at first too, because as usual the live PCs are overtuned for classic content at this point. People had level 52 SK box armies they would log in and insta-kill Vox/Naggy that way.

This is what I was thinking of - it was the progression servers. That's where the mage army thing came from also.

[Samoht]

People did that during Luclin with mana burn wizards and fearless paladins against Kunark dragons. There was "team manaburns" on most servers and a group of 3-4 decently equipped fearless paladins could take out any Kunark dragon. Manaburn got nerfed because of that. During PoP, decently equipped paladins could solo Kunark dragons pretty easily. I wouldn't be shocked if Slay Undead paladins did it to Venril during Luclin, either (I soloed him during PoP using the PoWater weapon with a double slay undead proc)

A paladin on my server used to get Zlandicar like this. He once let me loot the talisman for the Shroud of the Dar Brood.

[Frieza_Prexus]

I miss my manaburn squad. :(

RIP Juice Crew.

[Alanus]

A paladin on my server used to get Zlandicar like this. He once let me loot the talisman for the Shroud of the Dar Brood.

I never even thought to try Zlandicar. Probably would've been pretty easy to do, too.

My guild had a bunch of pretty well equipped paladins that had several Kunark dragons on lock down for a while during PoP. I ended up getting Talendor once and got completely screwed on loot. I was more of a Venril Sathir soloer

[lctucker2999]

During PoP, decently equipped paladins could solo Kunark dragons pretty easily. I wouldn't be shocked if Slay Undead paladins did it to Venril during Luclin, either (I soloed him during PoP using the PoWater weapon with a double slay undead proc)

During PoP I was able to solo Gornaire, Wuoshi, and VS. I think I tried Venril a couple times, once with the Plankton Laced Greatsword, and once with Vanazir. Slays with plankton iirc were upwards of 7k+ but it's been a while so I could be off lol.

[skarlorn]

wizards would only survive a couple rounds of combat from any respectable raid mob, and then any AEing merb would lay waste to them quickly enough that I don't think they could pull it off.

Maybe if you had like, 30 wizards, all with wort pots and enough resources to keep themselves above 20%. but then it would just be horrible because there's not enough class specific loot.

[Naethyn]

You could do this in VP.

[Livec]

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[Lhancelot]

You could do this in VP.

As in now, on p99?

[Alanus]

During PoP I was able to solo Gornaire, Wuoshi, and VS. I think I tried Venril a couple times, once with the Plankton Laced Greatsword, and once with Vanazir. Slays with plankton iirc were upwards of 7k+ but it's been a while so I could be off lol.

Yeah, Venril took forever because of his lifetap and regen. But it was easy to stay alive while tanking him, so once you got lucky with a few consecutive procs of slay undead (with the plankton sword), he was dead. If I remember right, plankton laced greatsword procs of slay were like 7500-8k. I would've taken Gorenaire, Faydedar and Severilous but could never find them up lol

[Naethyn]

As in now, on p99?


For sure. 32k hp dragons. Granted, you'd need 25-30 wizards.

[Lhancelot]

For sure. 32k hp dragons. Granted, you'd need 25-30 wizards.

That would be fun to watch on p99. A small army of wizards in a guild nuking dragons dead.

I wonder if it would be one big blast of death, or would it take more than one shot from 30+ wizards lol.

Probably be rough on the wizard army if the dragon lived past the initial blast I'd think, like Skarlorn said...

[Naethyn]

They regen too fast for it to work past 3 seconds or so.

[pasi]

I never even thought to try Zlandicar. Probably would've been pretty easy to do, too.


Zlandicar was a few steps above the non-VP Kunark dudes. Level 70 vs 65 makes a large difference as does his health. Checked Alla: my first potion-less solo kill on him was Jul 5, 2004 which was 2 months before OoW. I'd be very surprised to see him soloed in PoP. I didn't hear of anyone else (at least on the major forums) killing him until level 70. Lots of luck + weapon affinity + vanazir to exploit dumb necro AI was pretty much required.

Was jealous of Paladins and apparently necros (?) that could kill VS. Even w/ RoRs to resist 100% of lifetaps, his regen was too much for SKs. At least SKs had a (realistic) monopoly on Trakanon who could be spawned daily. Dem sweet Tolan BPs and Manna Robes paid the bills.

[Rygar]

Can't you open with a big nuke, then everyone spam click rod of conflagration for extra damage? Maybe include mages for pets + mala debuff. The two classes that get the least love rise up to lock down content! Thing mages get an instant nuke rod too, but it escapes me