View Full Version : How do I survive as an Iksar outside of Kunark?
dookieshed
07-20-2017, 02:09 PM
Hey all,
I've been working on leveling an Iksar Shaman and I'd like to bring him over to Antonica around level 20 or so and start doing Guk. Obviously Iksar are pretty much universally hated, but I see plenty of them away from home that seem to be doing just fine.
Does anyone have some info on vendors and routes of travel that would be relatively safe? I was thinking I'd just get a port to Ro Desert and then bind myself outside of Guk and have my friend bank/sell for me, but if there are any vendors that are chill with me, that would be very useful knowledge.
Any advice on this matter is appreciated!
BadSkeelz
07-20-2017, 02:17 PM
I don't have any first hand experience, but I would give this page a look:
https://wiki.project1999.com/An_Iksar%27s_Guide_To_Love_and_Friendship_Through_ Murder
It's a faction guide tailored for iksar. I've found it interesting reading even as a troll. I believe gypsies should sell to you so knowing where to find them is important.
Lhancelot
07-20-2017, 02:20 PM
With my iksar in the past, I loaded up on spells I needed up to 29 lvl or so. That saved me from having to monkey with spells in ogre/troll cities for awhile.
You can also always create an alt for troll/ogre cities, and pass gems to the alt by ground drop to then sell for plats then buy your own spells, then drop them in bags to your character needing the spells.
If you got a friend that can buy spells then all of that isn't necessary...
One thing to know is once you can invis, you can easily bank in Freeport. You simply hide behind wall, where no guards can see you, rotate camera so you can view the banker and click him, then voila you may bank there.
I always brought my iksar to EC area as a lowbie, killed tons of orcs to work EC vendor factions, and then gathered tons of belts turning them in to WFP NPC for more faction with FP militia.
My iksar necro ended up able to freely walk through FP, no guards attacked me. The spellcasting NPCs still hated me though etc.
I made a guide on Iksar faction for the wiki (https://wiki.project1999.com/An_Iksar%27s_Guide_To_Love_and_Friendship_Through_ Murder) (still in progress - edit: someone already linked it gasp) that's mostly relevant to p99, including a section on friendly vendors at the beginning. It's still in progress.
Once you hit 29, you'll have invis on your shaman and can bank in FP yourself (here's the path to the bank for Iksar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3xjo1wE-8), avoiding the bard guild where the GM will wreck your face if he spots you - my monk is non-KoS to NFP guards, only took 600 deathfist orc kills!).
What a lot of people will do is murder a ton of orcs/gnolls in highpass until non-KoS, then turn in scalps until they can use the banker in high keep (watch out for Ran Flamespinner behind one of the doors near the bank). The scalps have an added bonus of raising faction with corrupt qeynos guards and freeport militia.
As a shaman you might want access to Oggok or Grobb for training, but I'm not sure how to raise those particular factions.
dookieshed
07-20-2017, 02:36 PM
I made a guide on Iksar faction for the wiki (https://wiki.project1999.com/An_Iksar%27s_Guide_To_Love_and_Friendship_Through_ Murder)
This is amazingly helpful, thank you so much!
(also top kek at the title of the guide)
Foxplay
07-20-2017, 03:46 PM
Iksar Survival in classic zones quite honestly is easy, barely anything see's invis in classic, can use bankers even if they are KoS (around corners like freeport), Monks can use any merchant in the game with sneak *provided its in a safe spot and other stuff wont attack them*, And there are several zones with gypsies in classic who don't care that you are an anthropomorphic lizard for your vendor needs. Kunark may have Cabalis so its easier to go there and get your spells but you can always ask other players to pick up spells for you if you feel you cant get to the merchant or the merchant wont sell to you in Classic.
As a Shaman - SoW @9, Invis @ 29 can see u thru most of Classic EQ
As a Necromancer - Invis @ 8 , Feign death @ 16
As a Monk - Sneak @ 8 (Forces con indiff from behind) and Feign death @ 17
As a ShadowKnight - Both Invis and Feign death @ 30
As a Warrior - God speed and good luck, you'll need it. (Make friends have other people bank and vendor for you - maybe get non-kos to 1town like freeport for ease of use)
So in order of ease for Iksar being all KOS and what not id say Monk is easiest - Simply put sneak is a wildly underestimated ability - Cheating faction for quests, and vendors and banks makes the whole being KoS thing almost completely trivial - at low levels not having invis can be annoying (High level gaurds hit hard!) so may need to ask for invis, but at high levels on a 60 monk you could quite frankly not even care about being KoS just runt thru down, feign death, sneak and use the merchants you want and go on about your business.
Next would probably be Necromancer - early invis and feign death, then Shaman a later Invis than necromancer but 1 level earlier than SK, but SoW more than makes up for this, being able to run from an accidental guard aggro or something will save your scales maybe once or twice. Then comes SK which will be easier than necromancer once you finally get invis and FD cause you will be slightly tankier if a guard does happen to punch you. And finally Iksar warrior.... well just make a lot of friends and you might want to get on the good side of 1 city for ease of use for vendors and bankers
BadSkeelz
07-20-2017, 04:28 PM
As a shaman you might want access to Oggok or Grobb for training, but I'm not sure how to raise those particular factions.
First, thank you for the guide. It's been helpful on my troll as I said. I look forward to killing gnomes to raise my Dead faction (even if I don't really need to).
You may have already considered it, but there is a deathfist belt turn-in in grobb that raises shaman faction. I don't know what level of relationship you need go do it. However, whoever added it to the wiki said it gotten from scowling to dubious, so there must be some way.
https://wiki.project1999.com/More_Help_for_Innoruuk
Although, as someone who made his first plat buying spells for visitors, I am partial to the hire-a-newbie route ;)
Amyas
07-20-2017, 04:34 PM
Pre buy all your spells =)
Malik_Gynax
07-20-2017, 07:54 PM
I know you're a shaman, but for Iksar Necro, Call of Bones skeleton form makes you welcome in all evil cities.
chris.hijiri
07-20-2017, 08:04 PM
1- screw faction work, huge waste of time outside of quests you want to do as a shaman.
2- bind at the docks in Oasis.
3- Levi/scale of the wolf buff & run south to the fire pot room after taking raft to TD zone in. Invis depending on city of choice.
Been doing this pretty much since server start, you can be in any zone from classic-kunark in about 10 mins, the city's in 5 mins give or take. Your bound within striking distance of EC, 3 best pre 45 dungeons (guk, sol A & B)
Lhancelot
07-20-2017, 09:30 PM
1- screw faction work, huge waste of time outside of quests you want to do as a shaman.
2- bind at the docks in Oasis.
3- Levi/scale of the wolf buff & run south to the fire pot room after taking raft to TD zone in. Invis depending on city of choice.
Been doing this pretty much since server start, you can be in any zone from classic-kunark in about 10 mins, the city's in 5 mins give or take. Your bound within striking distance of EC, 3 best pre 45 dungeons (guk, sol A & B)
Some people enjoy doing faction just for the sake of a challenge and something to work on in the game. Maybe a waste of time to you, but not everyone feels that way.
Good tips though.
xtraball
07-21-2017, 03:41 AM
I was wondering about doing the opposite : start say a human monk in FP , move to Kunark and work faction to be able to roam safely in Cabilis.
What would be the needed faction there ?
I was wondering about doing the opposite : start say a human monk in FP , move to Kunark and work faction to be able to roam safely in Cabilis.
What would be the needed faction there ?
Kill 1000 forsaken iksar to raise warrior and necro faction, then turn in thousands of bone chips to trooper mozo to raise the rest. Beware of the crusaders, as they are on several different factions and will attack you as you turn in chips. It's better to have FD and sneak if you try this.
Kill 1000 forsaken iksar to raise warrior and necro faction, then turn in thousands of bone chips to trooper mozo to raise the rest. Beware of the crusaders, as they are on several different factions and will attack you as you turn in chips. It's better to have FD and sneak if you try this.
Iksar bandits are good too - necro and war faction. Plus there are caves full of em in FoB and WW.
-Mcoy
ziffiz
07-21-2017, 11:45 AM
I did this with a troll back in the original Kunark days on live.I did all my leveling in LOIO and soaked up all that + Cab faction then turn in bone chips at Cab entrance in FOB. And it is correct once you are ok with the guards at Cab entrance in FOB you have to keep going with the bone chips to be ok with SK and Necro guilds. There is a wandering SK that paths where the guards are so you can time your bone chips turn ins to when he walks away.
The bone chips don't raise the Necro faction; but they do raise the other three factions. If you're high enough level (I was 60) I was able to stand at the max trade distance in the corner on top of the firepot in FoB and do the turn in while glares (not scowls) to crusaders and I was just far enough away that he wouldn't agro. I experimented with it a bit since I was bound around the corner and could rez myself when I inevitably got slaughtered.
Honestly, I'd recommend upping your Guard faction vs Bandits. That way you get Necro faction too. I had leveled up in LOIO, so I was already halfway there with the guards - but then after getting all the others (via chips) I still had to go and kill something like 2500 bandits to be good with the necros. Didn't want to take that wrong turn running in to Cab and run into that nasty Necro...
I'm don't have access to my logs at the moment, but I detailed my findings in this thread a while back:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270954
-Mcoy
chris.hijiri
07-21-2017, 04:44 PM
Some people enjoy doing faction just for the sake of a challenge and something to work on in the game. Maybe a waste of time to you, but not everyone feels that way.
Good tips though.
I did enjoy doing faction work as well and in fact did the GreenMist on my troll shadowknight on live back in the day along with the crown for the high elf illusion out of Guk. But in retrospect the developers put in easier workarounds then hours and hours of endless, no xp faction work. I just recommend now to just enjoy the game and not worry so much about faction for little gain.
Little gain? I guess it depends on class; I really like having another bank/vendor on Kunark, and the shortcut across the continent is very useful. Plus it makes the newb leezards nervous...
boffius
07-22-2017, 03:35 PM
The red wine quest in Neriak will get you to non-KOS faction with the guards, vendors, and banker in Neriak (except for third gate) - fairly convenient to EC. You'll need invis (2 or 3 times), maybe 100p, and an hour or two.
Crookstinger
07-22-2017, 03:53 PM
Does the red wine quest turn-in NPC start out as KoS? If so, what's the best way to get around that to do the turn-in? Wolf or skeleton illusion? Or is there another way?
Achromatic
07-23-2017, 12:12 AM
On my iksar war what I did was get to lvl 25, head to the Warrens and clear it until I got to amiable in Paineel. All of that city is just on 1 faction, ¨The Heretics¨. It´s much easier to port to than Cabilis and you can kill the guards for plat without messing your faction.
boffius
07-23-2017, 08:48 AM
Does the red wine quest turn-in NPC start out as KoS? If so, what's the best way to get around that to do the turn-in? Wolf or skeleton illusion? Or is there another way?
The turn-in NPC is NOT kos.
There's 3 parts of neriak:
- Foreign Quarter: Usually just passing thru. Some vendors. Some guild NPCs may still be hostile after the red wine quest
- Commons: Bank and vendors. But avoid wiz/ench/necr guild hall (map loc 6); There is a guy there named Ranzan F'lok on a different faction, you'll still be KOS after red wine quest. BTW, he wanders about sometimes, so keep an eye out.
- 3rd gate: Gotta go here for the quest turn in. clerics guild and lotsa guards here on a different faction; you'll still be KOS after red wine quest. Fortunately, you probably wont need to ever go back to 3rd gate after the quest turn in.
You need to invis all the way into the 3rd gate to get to the quest npc, but he's alone in his room so you can stay there until your turn-ins are done (about 3 full backpacks of stacked red wine bottles!).
To check to see if your faction is high enough, go outside the library at the top of the steps. There's a guard on the "dreadguard inner" faction that paths nearby and you can "con" his legs as he passes an archway. Once he's apprehensive, you're good to go.
You'll still need to invis to get back out of the 3rd gate (unless you can gate/port), but after the quest you can enter the foreign quarter and commons to bank/vend.
JurisDictum
07-23-2017, 10:24 AM
Just wanted to point out something I didn't know when I first started my Necro here: Call of Bones (30-34 or so) for Necromancer turns you into a skeleton. Skeletons have pretty good factions just about everywhere and you can use skel forum to shop around.
Dreenk317
07-23-2017, 12:38 PM
As an iksar shaman, by the time it matters you will have the tools to go wherever you like. Once you get invis you can easily bank in enough cities. As far as merchants go. Dial a port from where you are to anywhere but north Karana and sell at the Druid merchants.
It's also not that hard to raise faction in a couple major cities like Freeport or neriak as others have pointed out.
Or you could make a bank alt and do transfers to them when needed. It's not hard to find someone willing to do a transfer in the tunnel. I've never been robbed and trusted strangers with multiple tink bags/thousands of plat/other goodies. Just find some tunnel fatcat and ask for a moment of there time. Many dial a port members offer transfers as part of there service, and for a fee will pick up an item and take it to wherever you need it dropped off if you and your alt are in different zones. Have done this many a time on my DaP'er.
Good luck and have fun.
Crookstinger
07-23-2017, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the info boffius. I know Neriak well enough to get around but it's super helpful knowing who is still KOS after the faction work. Cheers mate!
There is a guy there named Ranzan F'lok on a different faction, you'll still be KOS after red wine quest. BTW, he wanders about sometimes, so keep an eye out.
I believe he one-shots idiot adventurers by the bank quite often. Constant vigilance!
Beldan4
07-23-2017, 09:45 PM
Iksar have Cazic as their deity. Paineel is the only other city that universally serves Cazic. Go to warrens, butcher the whole zone 2-3 times and get amibily and u should be able to get the key and use any service in the whole city. no shaman vendors, but it'll be a 100% safe city.
Achromatic
07-24-2017, 12:20 AM
On my iksar war what I did was get to lvl 25, head to the Warrens and clear it until I got to amiable in Paineel. All of that city is just on 1 faction, ¨The Heretics¨. It´s much easier to port to than Cabilis and you can kill the guards for plat without messing your faction.
I forgot to mention some other things I did for faction.
You can tag Sir Lucan whenever he's being killed by any pal doing their epic or a raid guild members trying to get a Soulfire. IIRC 1 faction hit will be enough to put you non kos with the NFP guards. 3 will be enough to get to the amiable/ally range. If you hunt in Mistmoore you'll get faction with the bard guild also in NFP. As for the banker I've never bothered to faction him for it. Never really needed it.
The other factioning I did was in Thurg. Just filled my bags with arrows and waited for a ring war. Tab targeted and tagged all of the mobs. You can go quite easily from apprehensive to warmly in 1 ring war. Factioning for this city is not required but its certainly very useful since you will most likely be getting Thurg gear later on.
So basically you can bank in Paineel from lvls 20 to 30, Thurg from 30 to 40, and Cabilis from 40 to 60 if you do CoM/Seb in that range.
Hope that helps.
fadetree
07-24-2017, 08:30 AM
butcher the whole zone 20-30 times and get amibily
You left off a zero.
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